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Title: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 March 06, 04:07:04
I was just notified that everyone's 'favorite' Artist Manager is no longer at TSR. She's not an FA, not an SA, not anywhere. According to my source, the grapevines says "she was sacked after problems between her, Dot, Tug and Aikea. Thomas sacked her, not backed her."

So what shall we do to celebrate show her our sympathy?

(Tee hee!)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 March 06, 04:11:46
Rum and cookies all around!!  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: devilsrope on 2008 March 06, 04:16:09
*swigs*

Her page is still there is you type in the address. Wonder how long until she's poofed entirely? Or maybe they're waiting for her to beg and repent, THEN poof her, muahahaha.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: WedgewoodBlue on 2008 March 06, 04:22:07
Woot, woot, hopefully she stays gone. Just goes to show you, sleeping yer way to the top ain't no guarantee of job security.
 *swigs more rum than I should*
*hands out brownies*--well a celebration like this demands chocolate  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pineapplebrain on 2008 March 06, 04:30:15
Mayhaps we can recruit her and discover all of the twisted inner workings of TSR.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 March 06, 04:36:00
Special brownies?  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: WedgewoodBlue on 2008 March 06, 04:39:08
Special brownies?  ;)



(shhh Pooki is a sekrit, you're not supposed to tell)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 March 06, 04:42:10
Well she got what she deserved. :)

I have no sympathy for that evil woman.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Redikolous on 2008 March 06, 04:50:17
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

:Breaks out the good shit:
Rum for everyone?

I wonder though, what kind of "problems" could the FAs been giving her?  Not cranking out enough shit for the moneyz?

**edit**  When did I hit 200 posts?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Witchboy on 2008 March 06, 04:52:41
Mayhaps we can recruit her and discover all of the twisted inner workings of TSR.

I'm with pineapple on that one ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/Witchboy/Smileys%20Ect/Everyday/lol.gif)

*Goes off singing Oh Happy Day.....*



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AW on 2008 March 06, 05:15:17
My question is who will be Thomas' bitch now?  Who makes the crappiest stuff?  I will say this about Atwa, when I pm'ed several mods with a question about a problem I had, SHE was the only one who ever answered.  After pming Tug, who is completely worthless and never responded (she was the mod in charge of this particular area), Atwa did help me and was very nice as well.  This has been quite a while back and before I was a pirate.  :P

This calls for a HUGE rum party and of course a new video from Sherrie.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: neriana on 2008 March 06, 05:33:43
I dunno... one scuzz kicked off the sleazeboat? It doesn't do anything for me. And frankly, it's not like I can blame anyone for not getting along with Aikea.

When Tomass himself takes the fall, I'll celebrate.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 March 06, 05:45:54
Maybe she nipped the head of his little member once too often or too hard? I dunno, just sayin... And don't mind me, lots of ibu for pain tonight. Yes, pain, I haz it!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 March 06, 05:52:58
Yeah!!! That's a freaking good news! ;D rum for everyone!

TSR's base is starting to crumble, the rest may come with it... *hope*
Atwat was indeed a main piece there, despite her fugliness: active piece in tsr "community".

Her page is still up and all her items too (free now), there's no infos about her demise in her blog.
I really wonder what she could have done to be nuked like that, mmmm ???
Maybe she's going to retirement and still haven't been moved to the 'retired artists'.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Witchboy on 2008 March 06, 06:06:28
Maybe she nipped the head of his little member once too often or too hard? I dunno, just sayin... And don't mind me, lots of ibu for pain tonight. Yes, pain, I haz it!

How could she nip the head when its covered in all that skin LOL I'm just sayin.....  ;D

I really wonder what she could have done to be nuked like that, mmmm ???
Maybe she's going to retirement and still haven't been moved to the 'retired artists'.

Maybe they busted her file sharing? :o


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Markus on 2008 March 06, 06:58:28
*Joins WB in singing Oh Happy Day*

The only person who churns out even worse CC is Evi, so my money's set on her being the replacement. Atwa will probably pull a Jan and go through several sites and aliases.




Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 March 06, 07:34:56

(http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/party/party0011.gif)
 I'm surprised yet not surprised, I think the main question is WTF took them so long!

Atwa was only recruited, by her own admission, as a 'spy' (which she was paid separatly for) and yet of course they could not put 'spy' as her job title so her cover was artist manager (non FA) Now the non paid artists don't need to be 'managed' so her official job became to be 'tech help' supposidly to help with tech issues and report problems to Tomass.  But she knows absolutly nothing about either computers or servers, there is a button to report tech issues, tug and the other mods run the forum, and Tomass can read the forum himself, so WTF were they paying her for? evidently, just the spywork.

It's pretty common knowledge that she passes every PM/mail/IM to tomass (and everyone else on the net who haven't yet blocked her) so it's safe to say there arn't many juicy secrets being shared with her these days! so maybe she wasn't earning her wage anymore. She certainly wasn't there for her errrm ...  ??? creations?

However another reason for her departure may be due to the fact that she is no longer putting much effort into pretending to be nice, you only have to read her forum posts to see her condecending and sometimes down right nasty nature towards others. before her promotion she could do a very good impression of nice and even helpfull, but afterwards she was only nice to get info. she told everyone part of her job was to choose FA's and SA's with Tomass, and offered these positions as bribes, even though her power was not as high as she led people to believe. Anyone who could not be bribed she blackmailed with getting them booted if they did not do as she said, this was something she could do, even thogh she did it through lies to Tomass rather than actual power.  It wasn't long before she acted like she ran both the forum and TSR, that's bound to step on the wrong toes.  combine that with the fact she has brought more people here then we can count, either through pissing them off or spreading the link around everytime her name is mentioned here. The losses she has brought to TSR must far outweigh any gains. Tomass must have finally woke up.

But the question remains can she lie, cheat and asskiss her way back in? I would not be surprised, Tomass is not known for his intelligence.  ::)

(http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/love/love0030.gif) *worships Hecubus*
My sympathies to Atwa (http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/tongue/tongue0015.gif)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Lilwen on 2008 March 06, 08:29:37
And who? said there is no god. Break out the Rum and Cookies. We should called this day.. The No more Atwat Day.  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jess Maree on 2008 March 06, 08:48:48
Fuck YEAH!

*breaks out the rum and cookies*

Pescado, can we PLEASE put this in the calendar?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: keirra on 2008 March 06, 09:06:33
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!  Too funny. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 March 06, 09:41:00
Ah, I am happy.  She was such a nasty bitch about everything - those sorts of people always overstep the bounds and fuck up all their power.

Don't you have some hate mail to return to her Sherrie, just change a few details (like reverse the names) of the crap she sent to you, and mail it right back? Except this time you'll be right, and it's true.  When she sent it to you, she was grossly misinformed.

I don't suppose there's some kind of link so that we can all gawk and gloat?  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Saraswati on 2008 March 06, 10:27:59
guy, I know how you feel about this woman but I was amazed that noone broke out with this song..
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=6815402960921357912&q=ding+dong+the+witch+is+dead&total=103&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 March 06, 11:02:59
The New 2008 Atwa : Still Sucks, Now with No Power.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 March 06, 11:28:25
Am I the only one who feels at least a bit sorry for her? :-\

I just get the feeling from reading her blog that she's very lonely IRL, and now that she's been sacked, I do not think she has a life to go back to... Of course, it's all her fault, really, what with the powertripping, bullying, lying and manipulating everyone. She got what she deserved.

Isn't Aikea the other artist manager at TSR?
I wonder how long it takes before she manages to piss everyone off?
Thomass isn't going to sack her, however, since she's one of the cash-cows at TSR. Atwa was expendable as everyone could see that her creations were crap.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 March 06, 11:58:26
The New 2008 Atwa : Still Sucks, Now with No Power.

like this?
(http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/6228/cerealbox2oz1.png)


News travels fast
(http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1525/byeatwatvf9.png)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dorquemada on 2008 March 06, 12:25:10
Daaaamn. The horriblest payshit thread will never be the same without her.  :'(

I wonder now when she fell, who's going to be the new favourite TSR courtesan? Aikea? Hmmm, her stuff isn't bad enough to fill that thread, but maybe we could celebrate her promotion with making cheerful, fluffy, teeth-rottingly sappy story featuring her pwecious emodiots.  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dasha on 2008 March 06, 12:29:29
I think, in honor of Atwat, we should have a contest amongst us... who can make the worst recolor of a Maxis mesh. I've always wanted to make a dress in these colors: http://www.dayglo.com/

 :P

Though I gotta say, this is the best birthday present EVER.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 March 06, 12:32:38
I think, in honor of Atwat, we should have a contest amongst us... who can make the worst recolor of a Maxis mesh. I've always wanted to make a dress in these colors: http://www.dayglo.com/

 :P

Actually, done in style that could look very good. (Hey, I like modern design!)

If you want to continue Atwa's legacy, you'd need to find a tacky flower print and cover the entire room with it.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 March 06, 12:42:37
or a scarab to copy and paste on everything  ::)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 March 06, 13:06:12
Buhhhhbye, Atwa! :-*

Maybe Jan will take you on as her assistant alter ego....


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 March 06, 13:21:33
Hehe the cereal box is awesome Sherry :P

Happy Birthday Dasha!


.. oh and... um... I know it must be hard to not pity Atwat's wretched soul.

But I'm doing just dandy!



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Elfen Lied on 2008 March 06, 13:23:16
I can't stop laughing long enough to post.  ;D  :D  :)

So long dipshit.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: goodbye_sun on 2008 March 06, 13:32:07
I’m seeing this as the perfect chance to merge the powers of evil…Atwat and Buntah together on one craptacular site.

Please make it happen, it would amuse me so.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Elfen Lied on 2008 March 06, 13:36:09
I’m seeing this as the perfect chance to merge the powers of evil…Atwat and Buntah together on one craptacular site.

Please make it happen, it would amuse me so.

With Carla Niven high prices (or the little twat himself.) Oh the horror!  :o


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dasha on 2008 March 06, 13:50:34
Happy Birthday Dasha!

Thanks. It's tomorrow, so I'll go from being "30" to being my actual age. I wonder how often Pescado years and actual ages coincide around here...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 March 06, 14:05:57
Once every six years.

(Math is your friend!)


Neriana, you do make a good point - I suppose it's notable that Atwat is gone, because of her position and the unrest she caused. It's not a secret she's always been a thorn in the side of the more well-established FAs, like Aikea and DOT, and I suppose one too many bad decisions and cruelty to the masses didn't help. (Makes you wonder if she was behind Blackgarden and/or Simal10's promotion.)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 March 06, 15:02:11
How to get whatever the hell you want without taking shit for it:

0. Tell Atwa she can choose new FA's
1. Hire all kinds of FA's from outside of the SA pool
2. Send Atwa to hush up some digruntled SA's
3. Hire more and more FA's from outside of the SA pool
4. Tell the older FA's it's not a big deal, even though they worked their ass off to get the position
5. Keep SA's busy with something else, like a new forum and a shiny......coupon
6. Hire even more FA's from outside of the pool, and get some SA's promoted as well so people shut up about it
7. Keep doing this untill you run out of good people to hire from outside the site
8. Watch the new FA interacting with older FA / factioning
9. Hear the SA's mumbling something about llama's
10. Blame Atwa for everything that transpired and get her off the site pronto/ make her believe she chose to leave herself


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: neriana on 2008 March 06, 16:33:36
10. Blame Atwa for everything that transpired and get her off the site pronto/ make her believe she chose to leave herself

Good point. How many times has this kind of thing happened in the TS2 community now?

The buck stops with Tomass, and until he actually personally gets his ass handed to him, I don't think a shakeup in his minions matters much. Besides, I'll miss Atwa's hilarious recolors.

I'd love to have seen some of the conversations that led to this, though.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SparklePlenty on 2008 March 06, 18:09:10
Late to the party as always, but withthis news, it IS a party! That is one sad lonely woman, and I am afraid she'll be even sadder and lonelier...taking pictures of her food even more, before she eats it and swells another dress size, and goes home to her lonely flat to think of more home "decorating" ideas to inflict via her own website. But hey! It's a party. Quit bringing me down, Atwat.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 March 06, 18:52:12
Its odd that theyve removed her FA status, made all of her creations free (dont they often lock the downloads still?), yet her profile on the forum is untouched. Still has the Artist Manager status and her thread in the FA area....Rather inconsistent of them. Curious. She's also still posting help post at TSR as if nothing has changed...interesting. I would have presumed she had been banned, appears not.

My guess is that Atwa will make her own little merry paysite to annoy us with...and TSR will get someone else to be the FA manager - someone more competent heh :-\


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Saraswati on 2008 March 06, 18:54:04
She's kinda like TSR's version of Lyric Lee.. :o


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Markus on 2008 March 06, 19:53:42
Heh. Never thought of that but she is.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Amazone on 2008 March 06, 21:02:35
I don't know much about Atwa, or AtWat, but always good news when some paysites get in troubble. Hope Thomas will
go the same way, he should be ashamed of himself, making stuff and claim payment for it. I really can't stand him.



 



 



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 March 06, 21:17:46
I don't know much about Atwa, or AtWat, but always good news when some paysites get in troubble. Hope Thomas will
go the same way, he should be ashamed of himself, making stuff and claim payment for it. I really can't stand him.

It's even worse, he doesn't actually MAKE anything. He just gets other people to, pays them a pittance and rakes in the cash from people dumb enough to subscribe to TSR.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Amazone on 2008 March 06, 21:45:19
Yes, it is true. Danes and Norwegians are ashamed of you Thomas!!!



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Fainiel on 2008 March 06, 22:22:37
This is the best news I've had in ages. I'd love for her to come here and tell us exactly what happened, but that's probably unlikely ever to happen *sigh*. I too think a new paysite is in the offing, but hey, at least she's vaguely entertaining!

I don't know much about Atwa, or AtWat, but always good news when some paysites get in troubble. Hope Thomas will
go the same way, he should be ashamed of himself, making stuff and claim payment for it. I really can't stand him.

It's even worse, he doesn't actually MAKE anything. He just gets other people to, pays them a pittance and rakes in the cash from people dumb enough to subscribe to TSR.

Has Thoma$$ ever made anything? I was a TSR member during the good ol' days before it went pay and I don't ever remember him doing very much at all...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sims2lvr on 2008 March 06, 22:22:59
Ding-Dong!  The wicked witch is Dead, lol!  That is good news but I can't wait for TSR to take a nose dive.... ;D


Thanks Hec.....



S2L


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: I_luv_the_booty on 2008 March 06, 22:27:38
bout time the old hag bit the dust--her recolors were shit anyway...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 March 06, 22:47:30
This is the best news I've had in ages. I'd love for her to come here and tell us exactly what happened, but that's probably unlikely ever to happen *sigh*. I too think a new paysite is in the offing, but hey, at least she's vaguely entertaining!

Not going to happen. :)
She's been our "favourite" FA for some time now, (well, since she was promoted) and I'm quite certain that she's well aware of all the stuff we've said about her. And, to be honest, after all the things we've said about her, there is no way in hell she'll come here begging for acceptance.

And I don't think Thomass sacking Atwa is any indication of TSR taking a nose dive. Quite contrary, I think it's rather a smart move. After all, Atwa wasn't producing anything worthwhile for the site and she was pissing of some of the TSR's most popular creators (DOT and Aikea). So, the logical step was to get rid of her.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Markus on 2008 March 06, 22:48:24
Has Thoma$$ ever made anything? I was a TSR member during the good ol' days before it went pay and I don't ever remember him doing very much at all...

When I was googling for tutorials one of the results that popped up was a skinning tutorial done by Tomass. Had no desire to even click on it, but I can only imagine. Guy doesn't even play does he?

Plus I agree with Alia. There's no way Atwa would start posting here. Her hate for us runs too deep.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: WedgewoodBlue on 2008 March 06, 23:09:47
Even if Atwat did come here and post, I for one, would not trust her at all. Other people come here from TSR to spy, and no matter how ridiculous this may sound, this could very well be an attempt by TSR to glean info from us. Nope not gonna trust that bitch at all, ever.
She'll have a paysite like Cardrew and be her only paying customer.

And...maybe this is just me, but I got fired once, and I was so humiliated by it, I never set foot in that place again. Yes, I was only 18, but still, being fired is traumatic. Now that's not saying I feel any kind of sympathy for her, I don't. If she is well and truly fired, she got what she deserved.

Karma-what goes around comes around.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 March 06, 23:12:04
I don't actually hate the bitch, but my disgust for the hag runs almost as deep as the disgust for those who maim and torture helpless animals almost to the point of death. My loathing for her is almost matched by my loathing for hypocrites and hypochondriacs. My relief that she no longer "creates" for TSR is almost the same relief that I feel after having a nice healthy bowel movement. (Bet you thought I was gonna say take a shit, didn't ya?) And the results that she put up for the consumer to buy weren't even as good as the results of a nice healthy bowel movement...  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 March 06, 23:15:09
So let me get this straight - all that happened was that her stuff is now free?
That just means they got a little smarter and realized people were going to keep on whining about her stuff not being comparable to other FA stuff, and to avoid that they just made it free? As I understand, creating is not her main job at TSR at all. So nothing happened.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: RedLove on 2008 March 06, 23:25:00
That's what I was thinking Noukie. I don't necessarily think she's gone just we don't have to suffer her stuff being pay anymore. We still have to suffer it as free stuff. So don't everyone go thinking atwa is gone, my guess is she's still in business.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 March 06, 23:31:52
Hurraayyyy!! My secret girlfriend still making moneyz! I can still buy food for our love child!

...

Did I type that out loud?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Azaya on 2008 March 07, 00:06:55
Does anyone know exactly what she did to piss off DOT and Aikea? Not, from what I've heard, that that's hard to accomplish.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Ocean Bacon on 2008 March 07, 00:35:39
They were probably starting to get jealous that she got to kiss the butt of Tomass more than they did.  :D

But, yeah, I would love to really know what she did to push their buttons.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: strix on 2008 March 07, 01:11:16
It's got me wondering just what one has to do to have them all turn on someone like that, and who is next in line  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 March 07, 03:33:46
Maybe she thinks that if her stuff is free, we won't make fun of her. Think again Atwat.  Upload to a paysite, and you're free game, free or pay.

I agree that she's lonely, that she has very few friends.  Normally, I would feel sympathy for someone like that and try to be a little nicer to them.  But I don't feel one ounce of sympathy for her due to the way she treated Sherrie.  She said some pretty awful things to her, long after Sherrie had left and was no longer TSR business - but rather when she had to track her down.

She wanted to dish nastiness out, so now she can take all the nastiness she gets. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Azaya on 2008 March 07, 04:33:22
Well, in general we don't make fun of free creators, but in this case it doesn't appear she went free of her own volition. Even if she did.. well, she's still Atwat.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 March 07, 05:22:14
She still works for a pay site, so she is fair game. If she had gone totally free, broken with TSR, maybe I'd let her memory alone. But no. She's still there and still game for my pea shooter.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Elfen Lied on 2008 March 07, 12:54:04
If the Twat had been a much nicer person, treated people with a bit of respect, and actually did something helpful and good for this community (besides making us laugh with her horrid recolors,) then, maybe, somewhere in my little black heart, I'd feel an ounce sorry for her. She does and will not ever, get my sympathies. She does and will not ever, get my respect. She has shown what kind of person she is time and time again.

You lay with dogs, you wake up with fleas. The twat got what she deserved.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: BlueButterfly on 2008 March 07, 13:39:48
This should tell you about how much I ever paid attention to her. I went through the FA list on TSR to browse their creations yesterday due to sheer boredom and didn't even notice she was missing. It wasn't until I saw this topic when I realized it.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 March 07, 14:04:16
Well, she is still at TSR.  She hasn't left but is no longer FA.   


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 March 07, 15:45:15
Well, she is still at TSR.  She hasn't left but is no longer FA.   

and still on the payroll as spy artist manager.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Amazone on 2008 March 07, 17:08:44
Reason why i Strongly dislike Thomas is because he represents TSR of course, another reason,  i have a very good friend with the same name, and he is nice and intellegent.  I have seen how some are trying to mix Obama - Osama, which is hillarious to me  :P
So don't think Thomas is a name of a nazi or something, i know many nice Thomas's !

But i like Atwa as Atwat, that's fine - it probably suits her. I had an account with TSR once, before i went total
allergic to paysites. It was TSR who convinced me 100% that paysites were all wrong, but that is a long time ago now.
Yeah, well maybe i should thank them.






Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: justmeokay on 2008 March 07, 18:05:32
Great news that she's no longer FA. There were a whole lot of crap creators being promoted to that status, including her. I'm almost embarrassed for them.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Ry on 2008 March 07, 18:11:32
Ha.
Whether she's still there or not, she's been demoted and that's funny as turtle sex. (Search for Turtle Sex at YouTube, it's funny...turn up the sound, too...lol) And no, it wasn't my idea to watch turtle sex. Luke has strange friends.  :-\  :D

So, this is how I'm seeing this:
A. Thomass realized, finally, her stuff is crap and said, Hell, no one wants your shit, making them pay for it is idiotic...and demoted her.
or
B. She decided she wanted her things to be free because she got a clue with AW's cluepon and saw how shitty it is.
And we win. She's free. *kinda* You catch the drift.

Sooo, either way HAHA!!
*snort*
I'll pop open a box of wine in her honor later.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AW on 2008 March 07, 18:23:43
Out of self-interest, I'm voting for B Ry.  ;D  Plus, if Thomas didn't know her stuff looked like shit BEFORE he made her the Artist Manager, he definitely wouldn't have taken this long.  Plus, it's not about quality, it's about quantity.  Who cares what it looks like?  Who cares that puke green paisley isn't "in" anymore?   ;)

I think we need to come together as a forum to show our support.  We need an Atwat Avi in her honor (don't forget the eyepatch).  Avi anyone?  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: spunkysim on 2008 March 07, 19:04:20
I gotta go with BlueButterfly above... yesterday I was bored and was looking at FA stuff at TSR (mostly to point and laugh - was one of those days that I needed a laugh) and I also didn't even notice that she was gone, didn't know a thing until I came here, so much for how much I cared about her stuff.

I wouldn't ever have downloaded her stuff if it was free - and that included the fact that I could get it from the booty.  My sims would refuse to play with me if I gave them that crap.  And that includes my poorest and tackiest sim-families.   ;D

I am still hoping for the day that TSR goes down in flames, which I do believe will be sooner than later - especially with the price increase.  I guess I still hope that people will eventually get tired of this crap.  Or maybe I am naive, or a dreamer...  ::)   Just glad I smartened up and became a pirate.  Arrr.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: neriana on 2008 March 07, 21:39:15
Who cares that puke green paisley isn't "in" anymore?   ;)

Puke green paisley was "in"?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Witchboy on 2008 March 07, 22:05:55
Who cares that puke green paisley isn't "in" anymore?   ;)

Puke green paisley was "in"?

In 1970 LOL ;D :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Markus on 2008 March 08, 04:20:08
My parents used to have leftover puke green shag flooring from the 70's they used as a rug in the basement until a few years ago. Hated that thing, it was very hard to vacum.





Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Lorelei on 2008 March 08, 05:04:10
This calls for an SAT word: schadenfreude.

I don't normally rejoice when someone gets fired, but when it is well-deserved, I can't help but eat some celebratory cookies and chuckle a lot.

Seems like she's still there and still getting paid to narc, so perhaps her duties as Stupor Spai are expanding, and the demotion from FA is to lure some into false complacency where she is concerned.

What a dysfunctional place TSR is.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 March 08, 11:36:21
Puke green paisley was "in"?

In 1970 LOL ;D :D

Hey, don't knock the 1970's! I was born then!  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Witchboy on 2008 March 08, 14:34:25
Hey, don't knock the 1970's! I was born then! ;D

It wouldn't have happened to be on a Green Shag Carpet would it? :P Sorry, i couldnt resist :D

I grew up in the 70's, Bell Bottoms & The Partridge Family :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 March 08, 15:27:26
The first house my husband and I bought was decorated in the '70's, and we couldn't afford to redo it.  We lived for years with puke green carpet wall to wall--not just puke green, but also with that horrid scalloped texture that just screamed UGLY. ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 March 08, 15:56:44
We had orange shag carpet at my house - and a tinsel tree in silver and green.  I still have an obsession with lava lamps and those full Indian skirts thanks to my childhood.  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: RedSeawench on 2008 March 08, 16:07:59
The first and only home we bought had wall to wall mirrors in the hallway with some kind of marble effect throughout....fugly!
we also had an avocado green shag carpet,the same as my mothers,only she raked hers :o needless to say those were the first things to be replaced,now were saving up to remove the  linolium and replace it with hardwood floors


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 March 08, 16:50:41
We had orange shag carpet at my house - and a tinsel tree in silver and green.  I still have an obsession with lava lamps and those full Indian skirts thanks to my childhood.  :D

So did we! I remember helping my mom rake the silly thing.  I still like avacado green. I'd love to redo my kitchen in that, but hubby hates it. I still wear peasant style clothes and love lava lamps. I dumped the skintight hip-huggers though. ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 March 08, 17:26:48
Ahhh, the seventies... We had orange shag carpet in the living room and the walls were painted avocado green with heavy fiberglass drapes also in orange. The furniture was also green. The kitchen carried over the same theme, but the floors were a nice neutral tile but the cabinets were painted that violent orange. I know that it was orange because it was painted in one of the few shades of that colour that I can distinguish from red... Borderline red/orange colour blind here... The bedrooms were painted in avocado green but the curtains were a darker shade, so we at least escaped the orange... And you people wonder what all played a part in making me so nuts!

The basement is where we kids liked to hang out, the floor was multi-coloured tile and the furniture was a nice shade of deep rose and the walls were white. The tv was also downstairs, so it was all good! Later on, we got carpet but it wasn't shag and it wasn't orange, thank God. It was this sculpted stuff with little picture type thingies in it. Roses on a green back ground, I think it was. The rec room was the only one that had that, though, and after our basement flooded one spring I was relieved of that thing... The seventies, when you could unhinge a child's brain with horribly clashing colours and patterns, and if not totally unhinge it, make it a little more odd than normal.  ;D  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: RedLove on 2008 March 08, 17:32:00
We had orange shag carpet at my house - and a tinsel tree in silver and green.  I still have an obsession with lava lamps and those full Indian skirts thanks to my childhood.  :D

My dad has this ugly green shag carpet STILL. He refuses to get rid of it and the thing has tentacles. It practically grabs on to your feet while you are walking. My dogs have battles with the thing every time they are allowed to go into the house. Pretty funny actually.   


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: WedgewoodBlue on 2008 March 08, 18:23:49
 :D Oh yes well I remember the 70's. My bitch of a step-mother did the decorating. My bedroom was enough  to give an infant nightmares, yellow and orange flowered wallpaper. with a bedspread to match. It was ghastly to say the least. Our  rec room, purple carpet, one red chair, and some fugly brown patterened type couch and chair. Last I saw of that room, it was also that horrid brown panelling.
This woman never hear of colour schemes. Not one room in that house had any kind of coherent thought put into the decorating. If she saw something she liked, she bought it, and the colours she mixed were unbelievable. The red and orange combination was also prevalent in the living room. Needless to say, I spent whatever time I could at my Aunt's house. She didn't have the money to follow trends, so her house was tastefully decorated with a lot of the original wood kept in mint condition. No colour clashing there, at least my Aunt with very little money had good taste, unlike my step-mom who had access to all my dad's money, and couldn't find her way around a colour palette.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 March 08, 18:29:28
I still wear peasant style clothes and love lava lamps. I dumped the skintight hip-huggers though. ;D

Yes - and it all came back in fashion a year or so ago, and I bought up big.  :D

Ahhh, the seventies... We had orange shag carpet in the living room and the walls were painted avocado green with heavy fiberglass drapes also in orange.

Ah - I remember fibreglass drapes - god they hurt if you touched them - or at least that's what I remember - the prickleyness.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 March 08, 18:56:01
Those things were the worst and the bane of my existence when I was learning to walk and tried to use them to hold onto! The only thing they were good for aside from looking like total hell was insulating a wee bit and keeping the room darkened so you didn't have to take in the full effect of orange and green clashing like giants fighting over the last chocolate in the box... The only way we finally got rid of the horrid things was when my sister had a spider monkey and it got loose one day and skinnied up those things, walked along the curtain rod and crapped down the whole length of them, then dropped an apple on my dad's head. Dad shot up out of his recliner and yanked those things down along with the monkey which landed on my sister's shoulder looking very pleased. The drapes got shoved into a trash bag and that very day he went out and bought regular soft, white drapes. The monkey, needless to say, found a new home and our drapes stayed in place for many years until they fell apart when another sister bleached them beyond what they could take and fell apart...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Rebbie on 2008 March 08, 19:21:57
When we first moved into this house, there was avocado-brownish wood panelling in the family room, gold carpet (not shag, mind you), and fuzzy, foily wall paper. Fuzzy. Wallpaper. It was in the downstairs bathroom (gold with fuzzy red flowers), the downstairs hallway (same stuff as in the bathroom), and the dining room (gold with fuzzy pink flowers). And their were gold-colored velvet curtains in the living room. I think the living room had fuzzy wallpaper, but I'm not sure. It's been so long since it was redone.

I wonder how much that wallpaper originally cost. We tore that shit down the first chance we got.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Markus on 2008 March 08, 20:23:59
In my aunts old house, she had blue shag carpet for the boys room and hot pink for the girls room. The blue looked like someone had slaughtered Cookie Monster...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 March 08, 21:53:46
Oh, if you want to see someone in denial about the 70's being over you have only to look at my father's vinyl kitchen wallpaper.  It is hideous and after he redid the
counter tops and put in an island bar I thought he would get rid of it but noooo. He says it will be up till the day he dies and then if I take it down he will haunt me.
I will risk the ghost. :P
Exhibit A (http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w234/Purplepooki/family/PC100023.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Yaardarm Monkey II on 2008 March 08, 21:59:28
:D Oh yes well I remember the 70's. My bitch of a step-mother did the decorating.
This woman never hear of colour schemes. Not one room in that house had any kind of coherent thought put into the decorating. If she saw something she liked, she bought it, and the colours she mixed were unbelievable. The red and orange combination was also prevalent in the living room.


 ???are you saying that your step-mother is..........ATWAT ???    :o


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Yaardarm Monkey II on 2008 March 08, 22:02:29
Oh, if you want to see someone in denial about the 70's being over you have only to look at my father's vinyl kitchen wallpaper.  It is hideous and after he redid the
counter tops and put in an island bar I thought he would get rid of it but noooo. He says it will be up till the day he dies and then if I take it down he will haunt me.
I will risk the ghost. :P
Exhibit A (http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w234/Purplepooki/family/PC100023.jpg)

two words............holyyyyyyyyy shit   :-X


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 March 08, 22:08:09
Quote
two words............holyyyyyyyyy shit
Exactly.  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Feverish on 2008 March 08, 22:14:11
I actually like that wallpaper. Wouldn't want it in my house but I like it. It could be worse(orange/yellow).


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 March 08, 22:39:15
Well after staring at it for 30 years you do start to want a change...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sleegee on 2008 March 08, 23:01:33
Oh lawd pooki...
That's just....hideous!

I'm moving in three weeks to a newtome home.  The wallpaper in there is just...awful.  It's orange and avocado green.  I kid you not.  It goes with the equally hideous orange counter tops.

I'm a child of the 70's...i don't want to be reminded of it everytime I walk into my kitchen.  :o


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: neriana on 2008 March 08, 23:09:37
Exhibit A (http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w234/Purplepooki/family/PC100023.jpg)

That wallpaper is the opposite of tasteful, but I dunno. It has character. I'd leave it up. I hate it when everything is in terribly good taste -- it works for Sims, but I don't like it for myself. I could live with roosters and on the walls a lot more easily than a perfectly decorated house like a showroom. I have an uncle and aunt who decorated their house in perfect, unobjectionable, catalog-worthy taste, and it doesn't feel like a home, though they've lived there now for about 20 years.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Feverish on 2008 March 08, 23:12:28
Well I wasn't born until 83, but we did have that ugly brown flower couch though. You know the one.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 March 08, 23:21:59
We had one of those too! :D Thankfully it is long gone.  I would just like to take the wallpaper down, shred it and and put up some paint with
maybe a wallpaper border.  I tend to like the shabby chic stuff a little bit.  We have some paneling in our hallway with little pink roses on a white background that I do like. 
Its nice and bright, I can't stand a room that is dark and looks like a dungeon,the wallpaper will be changed one day it is a solemn vow I have taken.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Feverish on 2008 March 08, 23:37:59
When you said shabby chic it reminded me of Pamela Anderson's house on cribs. I love this house:
http://www.truveo.com/MTV-Cribs-Pam-Anderson/id/827339953


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Arghyle on 2008 March 09, 00:54:51
When you said shabby chic it reminded me of Pamela Anderson's house on cribs. I love this house:
http://www.truveo.com/MTV-Cribs-Pam-Anderson/id/827339953

Yikes!  It looks like 10 elderly cat ladies live there - but kind of in a cute way.  Weird. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Lorelei on 2008 March 09, 04:32:40
Oh, if you want to see someone in denial about the 70's being over you have only to look at my father's vinyl kitchen wallpaper.  It is hideous and after he redid the
counter tops and put in an island bar I thought he would get rid of it but noooo. He says it will be up till the day he dies and then if I take it down he will haunt me.
I will risk the ghost. :P
Exhibit A (http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w234/Purplepooki/family/PC100023.jpg)

Eek!

That brings back memories. I think I had a neighbor with that same Patriotic pattern in a lovely colour combination of golden mustard and mushroom grey/brown ("greige").


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Frank on 2008 March 09, 05:47:40
Special brownies?  ;)

Yeah, mannnn, they're Caribbean High Brownies. *Grabs about three and teeters off to see colors*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Ry on 2008 March 09, 08:10:23
Runs through thread, swipes ALL da special brownies and vanishes.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 March 09, 22:55:54
When you said shabby chic it reminded me of Pamela Anderson's house on cribs. I love this house:
http://www.truveo.com/MTV-Cribs-Pam-Anderson/id/827339953

Yikes!  It looks like 10 elderly cat ladies live there - but kind of in a cute way.  Weird. 

I wanted to see the cat lady house! But it says that the video is not available in my country
:/

Sad! Ah well.  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: LadyDea on 2008 March 10, 03:26:53
I wanted to see as well. Fiddlesticks.

Thankfully my house is orange shag carpet free, but a Prowler trailer that my family used for camping for a few years was orange and brown. *shudders* Everything was orange and brown.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AW on 2008 March 10, 03:38:08
When we bought our house, it was from the original owners.  They had it professionally decorated.  All the curtains matched all the wallpapers and the outlet covers had been wallpapered as well.  It  was a flipping nightmare.  Once I started adding up all the paint, etc. supplies from Home Depot that we bought just to get a different pallet, we had topped $6000.  I won't even go into the carpet/flooring.  Needless to say, once it was finally done, we were reassigned 14 months later.  >:(


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 March 10, 03:48:03
Oh, if you want to see someone in denial about the 70's being over you have only to look at my father's vinyl kitchen wallpaper. -
Exhibit A (http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w234/Purplepooki/family/PC100023.jpg)

Well, goddamn. That paper has just about everything on it, now doesn't it? Kind of like a tribute to anything ever made.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: strix on 2008 March 10, 03:57:12
My parents built their house in 1956, and the what would now be authentic retro look was just gorgeous (from what I can tell of pictures); polished timber floors, white walls, aqua feature walls, bakelite and enamel kitchen furniture and appliances in black and white... But then, Mum had some kind of brain-fart in the 70s when my sister and I were born and decided that carpeting the whole living area plus their bedroom in red, orange, yellow and bown shag carpet, painting every one of the walls a nice colour I like to call "rental beige", a nice mission brown lounge suite with orange and yellow accent cushions and then decoratve touches, also in orange, would be a good thing.

Luckily, I was spared the indignity of suffering that combined with lime green, but I can tell you it was traumatic. Like growing up in one of the outer circles of HELL. I half expected Mephistopheles to appear and claim my soul.

And the house STILL looks like that.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 March 10, 04:18:13
Honestly, the style in that video is the kind of decorating I like.  I don't like the modern look. When Seasons had the Country charm stuff I was
in heaven.  That is by far my favorite. I also like the Victorian look too.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: BlueButterfly on 2008 March 13, 21:44:18
She claims her FA leave is only temporary. Said some shit about how she doesn't have the time to do everything and she decided to step down from FA temporarily. I don't really know, I just skimmed through it

http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/atwa/blog/#blog_6815


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 March 13, 22:05:17
That proves she reads here.  I daresay it will be permanent kind of temporary.  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 March 13, 22:24:03
We can hope! Tommy boy reads here as well, so maybe he got the hint that she stinks like last year's roast beef left in the fridge. Her taste, such as it is, is all in her mouth.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: WedgewoodBlue on 2008 March 14, 02:23:11
It would actually be interesting to see just how many subscribers they are going to lose.
Paden--last years roast beef??? eeww, that made me queasy.  :P



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: RedLove on 2008 March 14, 02:36:24
That proves she reads here.  I daresay it will be permanent kind of temporary.  :D
How dare you crush my hopes of Atwa coming back. I love her stuff and all of you are just jealous of her mad skills. You, all of you, are just jealous because she can make fug and get paid for it! If...If you don't have anything nice to say about Atwa don't say it at all. She makes beautiful things. I want her to come back. I miss her. Please Atwa come baaaaack.  :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 March 14, 02:38:46
You forgot to add "Atwat i luv U 111111 X_X <3 !!!" ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Ry on 2008 March 14, 02:53:07
Nii, you just made me throw up a little in my mouth.  :D
And Doc, you forgot to add !!eleventy!!one!!!EINZ!!!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: RedSeawench on 2008 March 14, 02:56:29
Alright, whatever you're smoking,  its not the good stuff!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: RedLove on 2008 March 14, 02:57:00
I hear that a lot but for an entirely different reason. ;) And I'm serious: Atwa make some pretty good stuff. :) RedSeaWench, then give me my money back. :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: RedSeawench on 2008 March 14, 02:59:55
You bought it,you own it,no refunds,exchange only,for a small fee of course ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 March 14, 03:25:07
lol pwned, RY i'm still not used to gibberish talk ;D

Anyway what does "!!eleventy!!one!!!EINZ!!!" means? Is it about the smiley made this way: 1.1 or 1_1 ?!
Anyone has a translator cat-human for these?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 March 14, 03:27:15
To further confuse you, Dr. House:
n_n

 :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 March 14, 03:37:20
Ah, so it's really just about smileys. Meh kids today... *grumbles*
I really thought there was some real hidden message with a meaning. I'm decieved lol.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Markus on 2008 March 14, 06:46:06
I'm waiting for a troll to show up here to tell us that Atwat is a genius and that they have the screenshots to prove it... ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 March 14, 09:45:05

Atwat is a genius and I have the screenshots to prove it..
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7629/679687ks8.jpg   :o

Seriously though, it took her how long to come up with that lame excuse? If just one word of that was in the same galaxy as truth, she would have written it the day she was fired left. Also -

1. Theres the fact that how long exactly does it take to reply to a few forum posts, and click the forward button on  a few private mails. she replies to a max of what? 3 posts a day?, and forwards about 3 or 4 mails/PM's, all of which is done from her work computer, so what exactly takes up all of her (and I hate to use this word..) 'creation' time.

2. How come all her stuff was thrown out as free and not put in the retired FA section?

3. If she's so busy, busy, busy, then how come she's still pumping out the same shit at exactly the same rate as she was before her 'temporary step down' so what's changed?

4. Aikea Guinea supposidly does the same job as Atwat for FA's, I dont see her stuff free. (well actually I do in the booty HA!)

I think it's one of 3 reasons, either -

1. Tomass had to remove her from pay because at a time when subscribers are questioning whether the subs are worth the new price hike he doesn't want them faced with atwats monstrocities.

2. At a time when Tomass is trying to convince EA that TSR actually provides a service that makes people want to buy EA products, he does not want them to look at atwa and realise he's taking the piss.

3. The leaked story was true, as was my premonition that it wouldn't last long, atwa has very brown lips and Tomass can't stop washing his ass.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 March 14, 10:39:30
lol pwned, RY i'm still not used to gibberish talk ;D

Anyway what does "!!eleventy!!one!!!EINZ!!!" means? Is it about the smiley made this way: 1.1 or 1_1 ?!
Anyone has a translator cat-human for these?

Actually, it's when teens write in leet, they usually end all sentences with several exclamation marks that at some point turn into number ones, as they've forgotten to hit shift all the way. Like this:

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111 Atwa roxxxxx111!!!!!!!111



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 March 14, 11:37:29
Atwat is a genius and I have the screenshots to prove it..
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7629/679687ks8.jpg :o

My gran, before she died 5 years ago, had a living room that looked just like that :o


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Ry on 2008 March 14, 13:56:44
I know all the leet because I have a crowd of friends at a forum who speak in it constantly. And they made a dictionary of it so I could understand....lol....
Dr. House, that's the only reason I pwned you. For teh roXorz!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: solianq on 2008 March 14, 15:03:07
Wait, so she was all over the place over there because of who she knew?  I always thought her stuff was so fugly, I wondered what the deal was with that.  Recolors from hell, man.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 March 14, 19:10:41
Aha! I knew there was a reason beside smileys, now i get it thanks alia :D
I would have never thought of the shift key unshifted lol.

Ry, i feel honored to have been pwned by you: you walk among them with your dictionary as a translator ;D
*remembers the bodysnatchers' ending* *shudder*
My eyes hate gibberish posts and refuse to read them so i can't walk among them ROFL


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 March 14, 22:51:45
Squooshy, I remember you first post. :)

Atwa really phails at everything, doesn't she? ;)

If you enjoyed reading this thread, there are some other funny threads around here, as well. If you want commentary on Atwa and Thomass, try the ugliest paysite find thread and the TSR threads. BTW, did the first TSR thread (TSR is a suck ass sucky website, or something) from 2006 get burninated, or is it still here somewhere?

Oh, and Dr House, you're welcome! :)



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 March 14, 23:01:55
Original TSR thread should still be here but Pescado locked the thread down.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: WedgewoodBlue on 2008 March 15, 02:46:35
 Oh dear God, Sherri, i clicked on your link for Atwat  :'(
Why, why why, did I do that, I know better.
*swallows entire bottle of motrin*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Markus on 2008 March 15, 05:38:01
That shade of green used in the living room set looks just like horse manuere.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 March 15, 08:06:39
It's okay....you can say it....horseshit.  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sweetiepie on 2008 March 16, 10:14:03
I wonder why they've made the stuff free. I thought that people who quit TSR had to really moar fight to get their stuff out of the pay section.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: cookiepirate on 2008 March 16, 11:37:34
What a great first post to read after nearly 4 months!  Free or pay, still wouldn't download any of atwat's stuff, I LIKE my sims too much for that.  As for the colors, I am a child of the 70's (had waist length hair one year, a shag the next), and my mom had the worst taste in colors.  All the rooms were the same colors, harvest gold, burnt orange, beige and brown, all mixed together with a little fake black leather thrown in.  Carpet and dark paneling in every room.  It may be considered retro and in these days, but not for me....lived it, seen in, that was enough!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 March 16, 20:51:14
So YOU were the one who requested it! I already wondered who could want a set like that so much.. :D

:o God no! She was one of those grans you hated visiting; I feeling of dread and despair washed over me whenever the words 'visiting' and 'your Granny in Decmont' were ever uttered *lol*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 March 16, 20:56:35
Nice to see you back, Cookiepirate, get yourself in here and start posting! While you're at it, make up a self-sim and post her in the Crew's Quarters! We really need more pirate sims, it's getting fun! That goes for you, too, Anyerfillag, so don't think I was forgetting you or anyone else. Let's get more pirates to play with!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: I_luv_the_booty on 2008 March 16, 21:37:02
I wonder why they've made the stuff free. I thought that people who quit TSR had to really moar fight to get their stuff out of the pay section.

Because they're shitty of course ;D, and ThomASS knew that but didn't care just as long as he was getting bjs from atwat it was all good...I mean...that was the arrangement...right? :-\


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sweetiepie on 2008 March 17, 13:32:05
Look at her stuff I agree it must have been something like that *[shudders]*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: cookiepirate on 2008 March 17, 20:57:18
As soon as I can fix up some kind of pirate-y outfit for my RenGal, I'll post her, Paden.  Where would I upload her to, or does it matter?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 March 17, 21:15:39
Many of us have been using Media Fire and you can find pirate clothing in the links that redisenchanted has put up on the first post in the piranator thread. She does a kick ass job, by the way!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: grudge on 2008 March 19, 12:26:43
Dang! You're freakin' serious aren't yah?
My favourite artist! Gone! From my favourite Website!

Booohooohooo!
Who's gonna kiss poor Thoma$$'s ass now?  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sweetiepie on 2008 March 19, 16:21:54
Do they have a new artist manager yet?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: grudge on 2008 March 21, 21:38:39
And all her wonderful creations are completely FREE now!  ;D
I'll be soooo on a downloading spree.... NOT!  :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Skadi on 2008 March 21, 21:49:10
I wonder if ThomAss finally worked out that having that crap pay was hurting his business. Now Atwat's crap can blend in with all the other crappy free stuff at The Shit Repository.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Feverish on 2008 March 22, 22:18:45
Atwat has decided to move to the US and pursue her dream of starting a muffin shop:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tcR19y7GPM


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: CatBallou on 2008 March 22, 22:46:46
Double Youck :D That is going to give me nightmarish visions for a week!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: grudge on 2008 March 24, 21:36:56
Ah well.. I have to admit: she did make some stuff I can actually use in my stories - and it even looks kinda good there.
But of course these stories play in some exotic made-up country; or my actors are just dressing up.  ;D

And remember:
She's still the artist manager.  ::)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 March 25, 06:07:44
*can't hold tongue any longer* Hey, grudge, how can Atwat manage what they don't have?? Just asking... None of them are really artists... And she has all the management skills of a guppy on crack...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: grudge on 2008 March 25, 10:02:48
I haven't the faintest idea of how she manages that.
Probably more bum licking  :P

But I can't repeat it enough for her: she's still the artist manager.  ::)
ROFLMAO!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 March 25, 13:42:18
Hm, I'm trying to visualize Atwa "managing" the "artists."  Something like this:

"Hey JSF, your walls are way too tasteful.  Try a pink paisley with those red stripes, and don't forget the Disney character border."

"Sorry, steffor, that set doesn't cut it.  Everything MUST be made of the same eyeblowingly loud floral print:  what kind of talent did you say you had?"

"Chaz, my dear, you are really good at this hair thing.  Your models are a little too fetching, though."



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: chemistrycourtney on 2008 March 25, 21:53:58
Dietofworms: that made me chortle.  in an out loud kind of way.  It is also probably pretty accurate.   :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: fway on 2008 March 29, 03:37:30
If an artist manager picks FAs... who know's who Atwat is going to pick... she's so delusional that she would probably choose the worst creator, or probably go over to Carla Niven's site and say. "WOW your stuff is amazing! I really wish you'd come over here to TSR as an FA. We would pay you more than what you get for your stuff" (she probably get's 0 now because her stuff is so repulsively hideous). We should really e-mail atwat and reccomend that she should contact her and suggest to become an FA... *chuckles* 

Although, I really do wonder how Atwat would react to Carla Niven's clothing. Maybe Atwat = Carla Niven?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Markus on 2008 March 29, 04:55:44
I'd never thought of that, but I think you're on to something fway. Maybe Cardew is Atwa and Buntah. They could have decided to team up for a side project...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 March 29, 21:30:38
The only real explanation to that theory is that Atwat has multiple personalities. Carla is very different to Atwat, but just as untalented AND deluded. If they aren't the same person, they are best friends poring over third rate magazines like "Egyptian Whores and What they Wear" or "Garbage: An extension to your home", while Buntah sits in a corner gumming up cardboard and yelling out "Box!" everyso often.
What am I kidding. Atwat doesn't have any friends. And she cannot have that much vileness inside her to spread it across two sites. All this talk about Atwat has made me ill.. urgh.. *scampers off*



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Scurvy Wench on 2008 March 30, 10:29:44
If they aren't the same person, they are best friends poring over third rate magazines like "Egyptian Whores and What they Wear" or "Garbage: An extension to your home", while Buntah sits in a corner gumming up cardboard and yelling out "Box!" everyso often.

Sweet Jesus, I have to remember not to come here late at night. I was roffling BAD at this. Thanks Deelink, that was pricless.  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: neriana on 2008 March 31, 02:19:54
If they aren't the same person, they are best friends poring over third rate magazines like "Egyptian Whores and What they Wear" or "Garbage: An extension to your home", while Buntah sits in a corner gumming up cardboard and yelling out "Box!" everyso often.

Hey, don't go insulting Egyptian whores. No way would they wear that crap. Also, I'm sure Oscar the Grouch has much better taste than Atwat. ;)

I can totally see Buntah randomly yelling "Box!" though. Also "Neon!"


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Feverish on 2008 March 31, 03:59:58
Callisto rocks! Just had to finally say it. Back on topic: Atwat does not rock. She's about as talented as one though.



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: coconut on 2008 April 01, 18:35:19
   All hell's been let loose in the inside of TSR, Atwa has declared an all out war on certain FA's and Mods, if she has her way, expect at least 3 big name departures soon, maybe more.
 
   Atwa was already on thin ice, for blabbing secrets to Madisim on the phone, Madisim in turn blabbed and Atwa was hauled over the coals. Then came the latest internal fight, The FA's and Mods complained to Tom at the end of Feb and put him in an impossible situation, either Atwa goes or they walk, This time was the final straw, by the 3rd March, Atwa lost her grasp on the FA title. Tom explained that his hands were tied in this mess, but she gets to remain AM, gets a new badge and is still on the most prestidgeous list on TSR, the staff list, and gets to be later seen as stepping down voluntarily. Not good enough, Atwa is furious, she can't believe Tom chose Aikea and Co over her, and he even had the nerve, as she puts it, to dress her down for talking badly about the other FA's. She also wanted her items to remain subscriber only, However Tom made the decision to put them on free. She begged for Tom to reinstate her maybe in 6 months time, Tom said it wasn't impossible, but made no promises. 
 
  This is where the latest development exploded, although Tom has failed to give her any confirmation either way of her future as an FA, Atwa has taken it as her personal mission that she has to get rid of Aikea, DOT, Tug & Co  within these next few months, as she says that while they are there they would make sure Tom would never allow her back as FA. She's knows some of the older FA's are also part of this and has launched a witchhunt to find out exactly who. Naturally I won't name them and make it easy for her. She has announced she is heading the SA project, and will be using her position as AM to her advantage, quite seriously, she has this all worked out to a military precision, she delusionally believes she's now leading an army to victory, against the other FA's,  She's convinced her position as AM can help her claim back her FA title, she's using it to blackmail and manipulate SA's into becoming allies, and she still has full access to sensitive info, such as the SA/FA project which she's using in her all out war against DOT. The TC fiasco was blown out of proportion by Atwa to take care of the Mods, as for jsf she's also used the SA's against her, she did this again with military precision, by taking detailed screens of private posts on another board, where Riverwillows had posted some unflattering things about jsf, naturally Atwa made sure that Judi got these, and Judi made a complaint, resulting in the announcement that no member of these boards can be SA anymore, Thus turning the SA's against jsf. she then continued the campaign by accusing other members of being the mole, causing a hornets nest, and turning the fingers away from herself, and also as a bonus stab at River, whom Atwa despises. When this failed to have the desired effect against River she accused River, behind her back, of being a P.M.B.D member and filesharer. Aikea has stopped responding to Atwas constant whining PMs, leading to Atwa complaining that technically Aikea is her AM and is failing to do her job, Atwa is wrong again as Aikea is the FA manager and Atwa can't get it through her thick skull that she's no longer FA.
   
   However, there is so much unrest with FA's that Atwa may not need to do anything, they are on the verge of walking any day now, part of the main complaint/ultimatum to Tom was her access to the private forums and ability for her to cause trouble, him simply just firing her as FA but allowing her staff status has enabled her to spend more time and effort into bringing them down and has strengthened rather than solved the problem that everyone has with her.



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Lilwen on 2008 April 01, 18:50:52
This is better then watching any soap opera! And the sooner TSR explodes and dies the better. ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 April 01, 19:07:22
WOOO HOOO!!! welcome back coconut!!

so in short atwats back stabbing, calling people behind their backs, plotting the downfall of others, blackmailing sa's, crapping on her friends and turning friends against each other and she has a god complex  - nothings changed there then!

I just KNEW all that crap about her stepping down because she didnt have time to 'create' anymore was bullshit, since she was booted/sacked/fired/given the push she has churned out more crap than ever, very surprising for someone who does not have time to 'create' anymore.  can you elaborate on this 'project?' and what is or was the 'tc fiasco?'


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 April 01, 19:12:31
Where's the popcorn? This is better than Springer and Tyra and Wife Swap all put together...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 April 01, 19:36:00
Here ya go Hec:(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w234/Purplepooki/Smilies/xhappy1.gif)
Now who has the rum?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 April 01, 21:15:00
I've got most of a two six of Captain Morgan, and when that's gone about the same amount of Jameson and an unopened bottle of Baja Rosa. (That last one's not particularly piratey, but it sure is fun!)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 April 01, 21:47:10
 :o
Hee hee hee, it's so funny. ;D

One thing, though:

Atwa was already on thin ice, for blabbing secrets to Madisim on the phone, Madisim in turn blabbed and Atwa was hauled over the coals.

Madisim is an American, correct?
Atwa is in Sweden. Do they gossip on the phone regularly? Wow. They must be really close, as calling from one continent to another just to blabber on the phone must be expensive, not to mention all the timezone differences and stuff. I'm not saying it can't be done, I just find this very unlikely. 

Yes, I am a skeptic.

But even if that gossip is BS, it's still pretty damn funny, if you ask me.  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: karu on 2008 April 01, 21:57:20
could it be that Atwa was sent (by?) to destroy tsr from the inside?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Frank on 2008 April 01, 21:59:17
*sings about atwat to the tune of La Bamba*

Aaaaa-twat
AAAAAAA-twat, you stinking lil hobag
Can't create for shit
Ah-ah-ah atwat
ah-ah-ah-atwat

C'mon, gang, join in..........*chugs rum hard & keels over*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 April 01, 22:35:53
:o
Hee hee hee, it's so funny. ;D

One thing, though:

Atwa was already on thin ice, for blabbing secrets to Madisim on the phone, Madisim in turn blabbed and Atwa was hauled over the coals.

Madisim is an American, correct?
Atwa is in Sweden. Do they gossip on the phone regularly? Wow. They must be really close, as calling from one continent to another just to blabber on the phone must be expensive, not to mention all the timezone differences and stuff. I'm not saying it can't be done, I just find this very unlikely. 

Yes, I am a skeptic.

But even if that gossip is BS, it's still pretty damn funny, if you ask me.  ;D


Ahh now thats one thing that I (and I'm sure the other ex friends of atwat here) can verify as true! Atwat always bragged she spent hours on the telephone to David (madisim) they had a very close relationship which started when he mentioned inheriting a huge amount of money. However the relationship cooled when she branded him a liar for saying that the taxman had taken it all, looks like she has started up with the calls again, either the money mysteriously came back again, or she found another use for him. Lol  ;D  He does live in the US and she lives in sweden. But its Atwat who makes the long distance calls to him.





Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 April 01, 22:49:38
Whoa, happy day! :D I think it's a gas that TSR is in the process of destroying itself.  Thomas shows once again his firm managerial control, foresight, wisdom, and expert communication skills. ;D 



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Feverish on 2008 April 01, 23:19:45
It's April Fools today so everything I see, hear, or read today is false. At least until tomorrow. It sounds interesting though.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 April 01, 23:22:24
I can believe Atwat calling people overseas from TSR. Remember TSR is all she has :/
This is very messy. And it couldn't have happened to a more deserving site!

*chomps on cheerios cuz there is no popcorn*

Ah yeah Aprils Fool. It's over for us here in the East Coast of Aussieland. So I'm going to believe it heheh
*rum*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Markus on 2008 April 02, 01:12:54
Maybe there can be a made for TV movie about this. ATWAT: Portrait of A Drama Queen starring Jocelyn Wildenstein.





Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 April 02, 01:23:25
Um...who? IMDb came up blank.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Markus on 2008 April 02, 01:50:33
She's this really looney European socialite who's famous for having so much surgery she now looks like a cat, or one of Cardrew's models. When I thought of someone frightening enough to play Atwat, or maybe even one of the Teutonic Twats, she came to mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jocelyn_Wildenstein (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jocelyn_Wildenstein)

http://u1.ipernity.com/u/3/43/5E/1007171.6d91109a1.l.jpg (http://u1.ipernity.com/u/3/43/5E/1007171.6d91109a1.l.jpg)













Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 April 02, 01:56:26
Ah Markus, I don't know what to say. One part of me wants to chide you for being so mean to Jocelyne Wildenstein, the other part just makes me giggle uncontrollably. You are so bad!  :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 April 02, 02:30:48
Oh, THAT chick...the one who looks like the love child of Leona Helmsley and Joan Rivers.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: neriana on 2008 April 02, 03:44:12
TSR isn't a website. It's a serialized pulp novel.

So... some prostitute talked to her friend (one of the bouncers?), who betrayed her confidence behind her back, and what she said made all the other important whores angry and they squawked at their pimp to punish the prostitute in some way. But said prostitute has built up influence with the pimp because of her undying ass-kissing and spying for him. So to shut all his bitches up, the pimp tries to work out a compromise which makes no one happy -- though he's still sitting pretty because the bitches are still working to get him money, and frankly the first prostitute wasn't exactly profitable anyway. Of course the snitch gets away without a scratch. And, as always, no matter who gets hurt, the pimp wins.

In the next installment, Atwa will learn to kill with her stiletto pumps.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 April 02, 04:01:01
In the next installment, Atwa will learn to kill with her stiletto pumps.
God, now I'll never get the image of Atwa in stilettos out of my head...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 April 02, 07:44:55
So... some prostitute talked to her friend (one of the bouncers?), who betrayed her confidence behind her back, and what she said made all the other important whores angry and they squawked at their pimp to punish the prostitute in some way.

So I am an independent contractor whore?  :'( Or is Skadi my pimp?  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 April 02, 08:11:14
I'm not saying it can't be done, I just find this very unlikely. 
Ahh now thats one thing that I (and I'm sure the other ex friends of atwat here) can verify as true!

OMG!  ;D
It's true? So funny!

MOAR gossip from Coconut, plz!!!

Hee, so all the earlier speculation in this thread was very close to the truth, after all.  ;D

Edit: Typo.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 April 02, 11:21:10
   The TC fiasco was blown out of proportion by Atwa to take care of the Mods,


What is this TC fiasco? 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: neriana on 2008 April 02, 18:36:53
So... some prostitute talked to her friend (one of the bouncers?), who betrayed her confidence behind her back, and what she said made all the other important whores angry and they squawked at their pimp to punish the prostitute in some way.

So I am an independent contractor whore?  :'( Or is Skadi my pimp?  :D

Nah, free creators aren't whores. Besides, I don't think it's possible to be a prostitute and a pirate at the same time. You're doing what you want for you, rather than for dribblings of money from someone who controls what you do.

I considered getting miffed that, with all the problems in the world, Atwa et al spend so much time and energy on carefully creating and nurturing melodrama over a game. Then I realized that if they didn't have this, they'd cause problems elsewhere. So, um, yay for Sims 2 website drama? I might even thank them for making me laugh if they weren't associated with a stinking paysite.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: karu on 2008 April 02, 21:29:25
Sasilia and steffor are teaming up with Birgit on Birgit's old site.  I wonder if it's because of Atwa.   :P
http://birgit43.de/


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 April 02, 22:09:36
I wouldn't be surprised. But..."The Soulmate Company"? GAG me. What are they, starcrossed lovers or something?  ::)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 April 02, 23:03:34
So are the soulmates deserting the sinking ship?  Given the bad faith everywhere on tsr, they probably figure they can make more money on their own.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Witchboy on 2008 April 02, 23:44:30
This is to much fun *pulls out (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/Witchboy/Smileys%20Ect/Everyday/popcorn2.gif) , sits back & watches with pure amusement*

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/Witchboy/Smileys%20Ect/Everyday/lol.gif)

Now what did i do with Madi's phone number & email address? Wonder if i can squeeze any juicy gossip out of him?

*runs off to look* (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/Witchboy/Smileys%20Ect/Everyday/sprint.gif)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 April 08, 21:26:57
So was what Coconut said about Atwat true?  What's the current news?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jonze on 2008 April 19, 12:59:59
Sasilia and steffor are teaming up with Birgit on Birgit's old site.  I wonder if it's because of Atwa.   :P
http://birgit43.de/

What an awesome site! Finally a kidney shaped bed for my sims!

http://birgit43.de/setpics/232_bild1.jpg

I'm so glad they got my e-mail requesting this.

</sarcasm>


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: CaptainChris on 2008 April 19, 13:19:45
*tilts head* Okay, still no idea. What's with the strange laminate shelf that looks like you could decapitate yourself with if you sat up suddenly? Oh, and how nice of them to have Atwat model in the foreground!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 April 19, 14:41:14
I'm sure the polys of that thing are too awful, 'wonder how much.
Yep, that's the kind of slilly-placed shelf that'ld send me to hospital right away ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jonze on 2008 April 19, 15:23:48
Yeah I know, and it really speaks a lot about the creator that theres a couple of bottles of wine beside the bed so when she wakes up with night terrors about how terrible her creations are she can just drown her sorrows, get up in the morning drunk and make some more crap like this.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: coconut on 2008 April 19, 20:58:18
(http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/crapola/anitaapril05ir5.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Redikolous on 2008 April 19, 21:02:44
Well....fuck.

That's pretty fucked up.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 April 19, 21:09:06
Because we all know that Tom Ass and Atwat will remove that picture from imageshack as soon as winking, I have uploaded it to bayimg, and have a copy myself.

http://bayimg.com/PaJbDaAbh (http://bayimg.com/PaJbDaAbh) Their removal strategies do no good today.  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 April 19, 21:16:42
Cala, I just get a broken image when I try your link... Which is fine. I've got a copy of the original on my hard drive. (The more the better, right?)

Coconut, I have no idea who you are but you sure have access to some juicy stuff!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 April 19, 21:17:36
OMG!! :o

They really are as twisted and stupid as everyone says!! WTF kind of adult takes a friggin game site this seriously?? $500 USD a month?? Makes me sick.

I have a copy in my HD too. This is one that needs to be saved for posterity like Neptune Suzy's.   ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Saraswati on 2008 April 19, 21:18:40
Cala I'm getting "not found"..

Oh lord.. please, someone send that to the FA's.. This woman needs a reality check. Seriously.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 April 19, 21:21:40
I took a copy as well and I'm going to put a copy on every computer we own. No way is this getting swept under the rug...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 April 19, 21:24:14
saved!

Wow, Atwat being atwat as usual, she used to tell me to delete all PM's because Tomass reads them, roughly translated she means "delete all evidence so when you find out what a cow I am you can't use it against me!"  I also find it quite funny that someone got banned for calling Tomass a nazi, but it's ok for his own staff to make racist remarks about Germans.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Feverish on 2008 April 19, 21:26:45
Ha! Awesome. This just keeps getting better.  Especially the "never trust a German" part. Either she'll be leaving completely after this or the others will.  I would love for someone to post that on the TSR forums.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 April 19, 21:31:22
Quote
Thomas says to me he has never been this close with anyone
 
:o
OMG, this is so, so incredibly sad... She's in love with Thomass. I feel a mixture of horror, repulsion, pity and rage.

Ehh, Thomass, shoudn't the person you're closest with be somebody else, like your wife!!!??!

Also, way to go, Thomass. Keeping her hanging, stringing her along. She does that because she's in love with you and has no life and you do that because she works for free for your company.  Really really classy, that is. Way to go, Thomass.  >:(

(Also saved a copy of that pic on my hard disk.)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 April 19, 21:32:53
Or maybe send it to the Teutonic twats themselves...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Saraswati on 2008 April 19, 21:33:56
I DEFINATELY think someone should be sending this to Birgit.. This whole thing is a popcorn moment, I swear to god.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 April 19, 21:37:18
I would love to see the explosion when Birgit sees this.  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: keirra on 2008 April 19, 21:37:59
When I click your link, Cala, I don't see an image.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 April 19, 21:52:19
someone needs to back that frigging bus up....that first sentence is about me!  Only a few people even know about that...

ATWAT, let me put  your sorry ass on notice...I was not ever a pirate until your sorry asses made me one and if you you didn't fuck with so many fucking people, you wouldn't have to be so fucking paranoid!!! That's both of you, you and thomas!!!  So fuck you, you lying pricks, both of you!  and if you are even thinking of banning my ass, you best be refunding the balance of my fucking subscription!!

Anita, my posting over here is not because of a fucking brain tumor, unless I can have your fat ugly ass removed my fucking memory!  Nice going bitch!  War ON!!!

to the rest of you having to read this, my apologies for the obscenities

~Dina

ETA:  And that is the fucking LOWEST I have ever seen a person stoop to.  Making fun of another person who has a fucking brain tumor!!  It is a good thing I am not in Sweden...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 April 19, 22:01:40
Dina, you've seen nothing until you've read me when I'm in full rant mode, then all bets are off as to how many different curse words I can incorporate into my text! Swear at the bitch, she's more than deserving...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 April 19, 22:01:48
Ok you can make fun of this woman, but she's just being used plain and simple. A person like Thomas will keep her paranoid like this and relying on him because she will NEVER leave and will do all kinds of shit she would probably never do in real life. It's allmost a kind of abuse. Using someone's addiction for your own purposes.
Don't get me wrong, she's an adult, probably highly educated and fully responsible for all the shit she does to people, but I think that without TSR she would have been an entirely different person, and probably not so used to the scheming and hating of random people who are 'out to get her'. She'd be too busy working.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 April 19, 22:06:42
to the rest of you having to read this, my apologies for the obscenities

No problem, Dina.  ;D

We're used to much coarser language here. Even though we don't usually curse here, we feel that a few well-placed expletives are better in a sentence than left out altogether.

So, pirates, who do you think is Coconut? My money is on DOT.  ;D
Even if it is not her, I'm trying to fan the flames the best I can, as we know TSR spies read here regularly.

Ok you can make fun of this woman, but she's just being used plain and simple. A person like Thomas will keep her paranoid like this and relying on him because she will NEVER leave and will do all kinds of shit she would probably never do in real life. It's allmost a kind of abuse. Using someone's addiction for your own purposes.
Don't get me wrong, she's an adult, probably highly educated and fully responsible for all the shit she does to people, but I think that without TSR she would have been an entirely different person, and probably not so used to the scheming and hating of random people who are 'out to get her'. She'd be too busy working.

My thoughts exactly, Noukie.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 April 19, 22:15:40
Ok you can make fun of this woman, but she's just being used plain and simple. A person like Thomas will keep her paranoid like this and relying on him because she will NEVER leave and will do all kinds of shit she would probably never do in real life. It's allmost a kind of abuse. Using someone's addiction for your own purposes.
Don't get me wrong, she's an adult, probably highly educated and fully responsible for all the shit she does to people, but I think that without TSR she would have been an entirely different person, and probably not so used to the scheming and hating of random people who are 'out to get her'. She'd be too busy working.

I don't know. Someone like this would probably find some other crazy outlet. TSR is teh evil though and the people who run it are even more despicable.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: chemistrycourtney on 2008 April 19, 22:18:11
You know, nouk, I think in some ways she may be being used, but in another way, where does she get off?  Paranoia aside, making jokes about someone's medical condition, such as so offhandedly tossing out that bit about the brain tumor, really gets my goat. 

Also, I think a lot of people are out to get her.  Mostly cause she started it though....


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: gayle_afcb on 2008 April 19, 22:22:01
Jeez that is bloody low even for her.

Hugs for you Dina hon you know where I am to rant at xxx

And yeah too right the gloves are off now.  She accused one member of staff of being cocnut last week, this week she is apparently telling everyone it's me - there's your proof it's not Anita as you are on my ignore list so you never sent that PM to me.  You are a bitch of the highest order and I am going to laugh my bloody socks off when Thomas fires your pathetic sorry arse.

For the record you make me sick - bitch.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 April 19, 22:24:29
You know, nouk, I think in some ways she may be being used, but in another way, where does she get off? 

She's in love with Thomass. That is her reason. It was a joke here, but now I actually believe she's in love with him... and he's using her.  >:(


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 April 19, 22:27:17
If only she did act like a normal person when she is 'busy working', sadly a lot of the abuse and death threats I got from her came from her works ip until I banned both her home and works ip from my site.  what is even more unhealthy about this woman, is the fact she works as a nurse, and yet can be so light hearted about someones brain tumor.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: gayle_afcb on 2008 April 19, 22:29:31
Also, I think a lot of people are out to get her.  Mostly cause she started it though....

Funnily enough Courtney they all seem to have started out as her "friends" that then turn on her when they finally see through her act and there I speak from experience!  She described me today to the person she was accusing for the past 2 weeks of being cocnut as another sherrie and obviously she was wrong about them being cocnut because it has to be me!

I am so glad we banned her from our site...

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm198/Natural_Sims/Gayle/Image1-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 April 19, 22:30:09
Yep, well she's a nurse, she deals with sick people on a daily basis. If she can make jokes like this, she has real issues. Ofcourse in the working place you need to 'unload' from all the stress and it's a hard job dealing with patients worries and the hard work. Somtimes you make a little fun of the patients where they can't hear it, among the other professionals, innocent fun. But it's not normal to have such disregard for a serious ailment and use it against someone who really has it, especially if you're in the medical field.
She'll just take whatever ails the person she momentarily hates, WHATEVER with no regard of what is ethical or reasonable, and just uses it against them behind their backs in gossip or straight in the face. She believes it to be 100% justified, because these people are worthless for 'being after her', worthless for being pirates, worthless for being whatever she doesn't like. She will not feel ashamed or sorry at all, forget about it. In her eyes, they deserve it.
If her hospital  management would find out she makes fun of people with brain tumors, she'd probably be in trouble. She sure as hell would be in Holland.  Especially being a nurse, that's just wrong and honestly gives me chills.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 April 19, 22:34:51
You know, I am an Operating Room Nurse too, and no way never would have I ever ever ever made fun of a patient to unwind and release.  What really gets me pissed off is that it is so offhanded and she is rolling her fucking eyes at me!  Karma baby Karma!  Karma is one day gonna bite that BITCH in the ass!!!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 April 19, 22:40:21
Well from my internship I've learned that especially in the psychiatric field, when the door closes, the nurses giggle away and tell stories. I can imagine that there's not alot to laugh about in the operating room. *giggle giggle* "We took out mrs. M's appendix today *giggle*
... Yeah
You can't ever let what other nurses tell you about a patient let you get a prejudice against that patient. If you cannot be a professional and you let stories influence you, you should tell the others to just stfu. Also when something annoys you or it's disrespectfull, you should tell the other to stfu. The places I worked at, there was always room for that. It's good for the working climate if you can talk about anything, but also if you don't have to hear everything. If a nurse talks about another patient with another patient, they're usually fired, depending on what's told. They can be prosecuted.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 April 19, 22:53:24
yes, you would be in trouble here as well, especially if a family member overheard.  Yes, we talk about patients, but never make light of what they have.  I have seen so many bad things in the OR.  Many people die, many people suffer and many familys hurt.  When that patient goes to sleep, we lighten the mood in the room, but never at the patients expense, at least that has been my experiences over the last 23 years of nursing.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Saraswati on 2008 April 19, 22:56:57
There IS a culture of that among some nurses I talk to.. (I work in an IT department of a state health system) but it's just a coping strategy to get through some things, and it's never in earshot of the patients.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 April 19, 22:58:43
It's impossible to make fun of what a patient has, if someone does that it's usually suggested they go and find a job in another field. Disease is never funny. However what a patient does is sometimes very funny. :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 April 19, 22:59:00
What a joke. Atwat has to be the most insipid person to resort to any measure just to keep some sort of spice in her life. And not just any spice, but backhanded politics and money grubbing deeds.
I don't want to know who Coconut is, I want her/him to stay firmly implanted in the world of TSR. They are our front line!
Collecting hard evidence that the woman.. the lying conniving CRIMINAL, is doing this just to keep her stature, and apparently all of us, just hate her for it because we are so jelous of the closeness she has with one of the biggest pricks in the Sims 2 Community. Where does Atwat get her delusion from?
Give me a break Atwat. You are the raper and the pillager. You dare put yourself above pirates again and I'll introduce your sorry ass to my buckled boot!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 April 19, 23:01:41
Someone really should send that to the German BBS. Wasn't one of their maxoids backing TSR at one point.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 April 19, 23:01:50
Sad thing is, it's not even piracy because there's no copyrights being broken anywhere, so she's hating groups of people for doing absolutely nothing illegal. What a waste of energy.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 April 19, 23:08:12
The truth is, we don't even know if she is actually a nurse. That's just what she tells us.

Mocking someone with a serious illness is reprehensible. What a soulless bitch!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 April 19, 23:12:50
The truth is, we don't even know if she is actually a nurse. That's just what she tells us.

Mocking someone with a serious illness is reprehensible. What a soulless bitch!

Thats true, her work ip did trace to a medical trust in stockholm, but for all we know she could be the hospital cleaner! she did do a tutorial once on dirty toilets so she does seem to know a lot about them  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Saraswati on 2008 April 19, 23:15:18
I'm not too worried about whether she IS a nurse or not.. I'm more worried about the fact that she can start sending pms with stuff like "never trust a German" and the fact that she figured someone would only post here if they had a brain tumor. Nurse or not, it was an odd analogy to make.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 April 19, 23:18:08
I thought Sherrie was crazy, that she was making it all up, and actually felt bad for Atwa for a while. Back when I used to talk to atwa sometimes I'd tell her not to mind 'crazies like Sherrie'. That was fucking stupid. Sherrie is not crazy and it's even worse than anything I could think of. Who would think that someone is really like that?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 April 19, 23:24:48
But But I AM crazy, crazy is my trademark, without it I am nothing, Please don't take my crazy away  :'(


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 April 19, 23:30:36
Well...... ok!
Bahhahaha you crazy fuck! *points*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 April 19, 23:31:33
Thank you  ;D me happy again now!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Saraswati on 2008 April 19, 23:32:26
Sherrie, I hate to say this but, crazy or not, you're probably saner than Atwa.. That pm smacks of someone who's seeing conspiracies everywhere.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: chemistrycourtney on 2008 April 20, 00:05:28
But sherrie, you're the good kind of crazy.  The kind that I'd go bar hopping with on weekends, if I still went bar hopping. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 April 20, 00:07:35
I like Sherrie's kind of crazy.  It means I am not alone...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 April 20, 00:07:51
Sometimes (by the water cooler) all of us who deal with customers have to let off some steam.
But never has it being a senseless paranoid attack based on an ailment they can't control, or their nationality. That speaks IGNORANCE and attention-whoring to a level that is not normal... it's so gigantic, so incredibly monstrous. It can only spew forth from A-twat.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 April 20, 00:37:08
I really am amazed at that comment about the Germans. I mean, I call Birgit and company the Teutonic Twats, because these specific women have shown their greed and idiocy, even bragging about it. (And because I love the movie Blazing Saddles, where I first heard the term.)  But that's a very specific instance. And hey, I'm half German, so does this mean I can't trust myself?   :P

The brain tumor thing was just an ignorant, low blow. I'm frankly not surprised she'd say that, based on other really awful things she's said in the past. And the best part? We don't have to make her look like an idiot - she does that all by herself. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Feverish on 2008 April 20, 01:45:29
She has this fatal attraction thing going on. He better be careful. Getting rid of her could be a mistake. lol It's hilarious then pretty sad. But more hilarious. *does happy dance*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 April 20, 03:07:37
If we must have a brain tumor for posting here.. what does she have then when she's constantly lurking here and reading everything we say?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Witchboy on 2008 April 20, 03:39:54
what does she have then when she's constantly lurking here and reading everything we say?

Could it be (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/Witchboy/Smileys%20Ect/Everyday/brainfart.gif)



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: WedgewoodBlue on 2008 April 20, 05:39:17
Personally I think she is "braindead". Like Hecubus I am german, only I am all german, not just half, and I take serious offense to that remark.
Ask Paden, I am one of the most trustworthy people you will ever meet. You can tell me your deepest darkest secret and I will NOT tell another soul....................then again I have short-term memory problems,  ;D 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 April 20, 05:42:41
Sounds to me like she's been living in the basement of TSR for too long, she no longer knows what is real and what is fake. Face it, Atwat, your creations are real shit. Your talent is fake and so is your personality. If a rabid gutter slime can be said to HAVE a personality. It's people like you that give hyenas a bad name. Such blatant stupidity and arrogance and callous disregard cannot be blamed upon your natural intelligence, therefore I conclude that you have eroded what you were born with by using drugs combined with cleaning fumes and eating waaaay too much paste. I could give my cat an Etch a Sketch and she'd come up with better looking content than you. If you love Thomass that much, just demand that he leave his wife for you and live happily ever after... If you are true soul-mates as you seem to think you are, he'll be only too happy to do it. Stupid twits, the both of you. And by the way, my grandmother was half German and on behalf of her, I will say that you are an ignorant lout that works for a totalitarian regime and wouldn't know quality if it bit you in your generous ass.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 April 20, 07:16:07
I really am amazed at that comment about the Germans. I mean, I call Birgit and company the Teutonic Twats, because these specific women have shown their greed and idiocy, even bragging about it. (And because I love the movie Blazing Saddles, where I first heard the term.)  But that's a very specific instance. And hey, I'm half German, so does this mean I can't trust myself?   :P

You cannot trust yourself - you are part untrustworthy German.  :D But hey, you make it clear who is a Teutonic Twat, and you do it in public - there's something dirty about racist remarks via PM, but Atwat doesn't seem to mind muddying up her soul.  Fine with me - amusing, plus, not my soul.

I don't know what went wrong with bayimg, but it's good that we all have it now - they try the trick of getting things deleted from imageshack (like the infamous Neptune Suzy make all FAs pay post) - just so long as we make it clear that those things spread, and will be on more people's computers more of the time, all is well.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Saraswati on 2008 April 20, 07:24:14
 ;) I was passing the Neptune Suzy image around by PM just today.. the person in question nearly fell off their chair. Suzy puts on a good act until people see THAT side of her.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Scourge on 2008 April 20, 09:41:49
I'm not German or even half German. Guess I have to settle for being just half Austrian which is pretty annoying to share actually, I usually get asked if I knew Steve Irwin... how the hell do they translate Austria into Australia?! Those things don't even SOUND alike, aside from the "austr" and maybe "ia", that's all. Where was I? Oh yeah.

About Atwa, I've been reading about her since before I signed up to the phorum and I have to say, she really felt familiar in some way, like I knew her in the real world and then the terrible truth dawned on me. I don't know her but there are other people out there who act exactly like that. A relative of mine and Atwa have so much in common that it's scary, I remember going to my relative's house one day and looking through her cups to make sure she didn't have a TSR mug, just to make sure that they are truly different people.






 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 April 20, 10:30:17
I don't want to know who Coconut is, I want her/him to stay firmly implanted in the world of TSR. They are our front line!
Collecting hard evidence that the woman.. the lying conniving CRIMINAL, is doing this just to keep her stature, and apparently all of us, just hate her for it because we are so jelous of the closeness she has with one of the biggest pricks in the Sims 2 Community. Where does Atwat get her delusion from?

Guys, Coconut has an agenda. S/he obviously hates Atwa and wants to make her look bad. Coconut is not doing what s/he's doing just for the sake of gossip or lulz, s/he's doing it to destroy Atwa, and s/he's doing it by posting things behind Atwa's back.

I read all Coconut's posts in the old "TSR is a suck-ass sucky website" thread. (I tried looking for them again, but could not find his/her old account.) Anyways, it is clear that s/he has an agenda, and no doubt s/he chooses carefully the screencaps/gossip s/he posts here.  Coconut wants to hurt Atwa and she's using us to do his/her dirty work.

I'm not trying to defend Atwa here, but I also don't trust Coconut, and neither should you.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jonze on 2008 April 20, 10:35:35
;) I was passing the Neptune Suzy image around by PM just today.. the person in question nearly fell off their chair. Suzy puts on a good act until people see THAT side of her.

I hope you don't mind me asking, but what is the neptune Suzy img? I've seen it mentioned a few times...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 April 20, 10:42:33
Agree with you alia to an extent

Quote
I'm not trying to defend Atwa here, but I also don't trust Coconut, and neither should you

You can not trust someone who you do not know..and Coconut is obviously here under a disguise of sorts so they can freely talk and show TSR gossipies. What he/she is telling us is interesting and important - we can simply observe this and watch what happens at TSR

;) I was passing the Neptune Suzy image around by PM just today.. the person in question nearly fell off their chair. Suzy puts on a good act until people see THAT side of her.

I hope you don't mind me asking, but what is the neptune Suzy img? I've seen it mentioned a few times...

(http://i26.tinypic.com/nco0fm.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jonze on 2008 April 20, 10:50:40
Thanks!

..and eww


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 April 20, 11:24:41
Guys, Coconut has an agenda. S/he obviously hates Atwa and wants to make her look bad. Coconut is not doing what s/he's doing just for the sake of gossip or lulz, s/he's doing it to destroy Atwa, and s/he's doing it by posting things behind Atwa's back.

I read all Coconut's posts in the old "TSR is a suck-ass sucky website" thread. (I tried looking for them again, but could not find his/her old account.) Anyways, it is clear that s/he has an agenda, and no doubt s/he chooses carefully the screencaps/gossip s/he posts here.  Coconut wants to hurt Atwa and she's using us to do his/her dirty work.

I'm not trying to defend Atwa here, but I also don't trust Coconut, and neither should you.

I just wish her agenda hadn't included me...but since it has, well, then all I can say is I hope that Atwat suffers!  Suffers bad!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pescado on 2008 April 20, 11:35:25
Because we all know that Tom Ass and Atwat will remove that picture from imageshack as soon as winking, I have uploaded it to bayimg, and have a copy myself.
Resistance Is Futile. It's on PMBD now. Behold, crapola.

Mocking someone with a serious illness is reprehensible. What a soulless bitch!
What are you talking about? Mocking someone with a serious illness is HILARIOUS! If they didn't want to be mocked, maybe they should have thought of that before becoming seriously ill. Honestly, this sort of behavior needs to be discouraged, and how better else to do it than to mock it mercilessly?

Last but not least: I WANT TO SEE BLOOD! I WANT TO *BATHE* IN THEIR BLOOD! I WANT TO BATHE IN THEIR BLOOD FOR A WEEK!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 April 20, 11:44:28
Because we all know that Tom Ass and Atwat will remove that picture from imageshack as soon as winking, I have uploaded it to bayimg, and have a copy myself.
Resistance Is Futile. It's on PMBD now. Behold, crapola.

We just don't want that to happen to every juicy screenshot - that NeptuneSuzy thing was hard to keep on imageshack.  ;D Could the wonderous and bountiful Pescado allow an upload amount just big enough for pictures, so that we can attach them to posts? There have been times when they're faster than us, and delete them quickly without someone saving them. If I hadn't snagged the NeptuneSuzy screenie at S2C, none of us would have it - and someone anal isn't always around.  :D

I WANT TO SEE BLOOD! I WANT TO *BATHE* IN THEIR BLOOD! I WANT TO BATHE IN THEIR BLOOD FOR A WEEK!

I give you Pescado - the Peacemaker.  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 April 20, 12:28:25
Agree with you alia to an extent

You can not trust someone who you do not know..and Coconut is obviously here under a disguise of sorts so they can freely talk and show TSR gossipies. What he/she is telling us is interesting and important - we can simply observe this and watch what happens at TSR

Exactly. The things Coconut is posting are interesting, but you should not mistake them for the whole truth.
So, I'm eagerly awaiting what they'll post next, but I will not take it all at face value and neither should you.
("You" in this sentence not directed at Jojoba but at pirates in general.)

Last but not least: I WANT TO SEE BLOOD! I WANT TO *BATHE* IN THEIR BLOOD! I WANT TO BATHE IN THEIR BLOOD FOR A WEEK!
Would not the blood be rather smelly and crusty after a week? Blood has the tendency to congeal pretty fast.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: CaptainChris on 2008 April 20, 13:35:31
I've been wondering, are these messages coconut is posting from an email/IM from Nitwit, or was she stupid enough to put it in a private forum? Just kinda occured to me that if it was a IM, then nitwit probably has the intellectual fortitude to work out who coconut actually is. Or am I mistakingly thinking she errs more on the line of stupid rather than conniving? :-\


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: chemistrycourtney on 2008 April 20, 14:28:36
Well, I was more thinking that that was an email, or PM, possibly to coconut.  The other thing though, is I couldn't help but notice the title had RE at the beginning, like Atwa was replying to someting sent to her.  I'd like to see what coconut sent to Atwa as well. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jonze on 2008 April 20, 14:30:36
I've been wondering, are these messages coconut is posting from an email/IM from Nitwit, or was she stupid enough to put it in a private forum? Just kinda occured to me that if it was a IM, then nitwit probably has the intellectual fortitude to work out who coconut actually is. Or am I mistakingly thinking she errs more on the line of stupid rather than conniving? :-\

Yeah if it is an IM then coconut has really burned all his/her bridges at TSR. Unless it has the oppposite effect and this is teh final nail in Atwats hidiously recoloured egyptian themed coffin.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sherry on 2008 April 20, 15:03:03
Is it bad that I feel kinda bad for her?  She looks all kinds of crazy in that pm, not to mention it really solidifies that she is easy to manipulate.  It was clear as day Thomas is taking advantage of her, but somehow coconut managed to do so too. 

She needs to step away from the computer to get some sunlight and fresh air. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: chemistrycourtney on 2008 April 20, 15:11:37
in another way, coconut could have just been like what do you think of the fa's going to talk to the pirates? 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 April 20, 15:24:51
Yeah or coconut is atwa's alter ego and they've both gone bonkers. (We need to make a petition to recognize alter-ego's as having human rights. There's so many of them!) If coconut is a dirty FA how is he/she any better than Atwa? XD


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: CaptainChris on 2008 April 20, 15:51:18
That could be possible, if Jan could come up with a dozen or so personalities, what's to stop Atwat having them, all at war with each other?

From what I can tell, she's the manipulator. She's got the "I'm so innocent" act, but from the way she treats others, she's not as sheeplike as she'd want you to believe. Although, I am easily distracted at the moment, Mythbusters Pirate special is on.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: coconut on 2008 April 20, 16:04:33
It was an IM on TSR, made in reply. It was not my IM, the person who released it to me no longer cares if she is banned from TSR. Atwa knows who this person is, but Atwa does not know who I am. Atwa is keeping quiet because pointing fingers is admitting her guilt. and finally yes, this is a genuine IM. It is not my problem to expose the owner of this IM. They may come forward themseves.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 April 20, 16:12:04
Whether or not coconut is actually Tom Ass/otherFA/*insert here*, is immaterial.  The focus shouldn't be on the person who brought the information to our attention - as they obviously aren't ready to come out and cannot thus be categorised unless and until they do - but rather on the information presented.  

Edit: as coconut stated quite succintly:
It was an IM on TSR, made in reply. It was not my IM, the person who released it to me no longer cares if she is banned from TSR. Atwa knows who this person is, but Atwa does not know who I am. Atwa is keeping quiet because pointing fingers is admitting her guilt. and finally yes, this is a genuine IM. It is not my problem to expose the owner of this IM. They may come forward themseves.

The source of the information is unknown - and the fact that whoever it was was able to coax it out of her *through whatever means* doesn't mean that instead the light we shine on coconut should be brighter than the one we shine on Atwat.  Atwat said these things - these awful things - and they didn't come from nowhere - she thought she had someone's implicit confidentiality to say the things she said, and she didn't.  

coconut could be a person like sherry (who also had the confidentiality of atwat for a small time) and may have one million reasons for not revealing themselves - and until I know, I'm not going to make a decision either way.

As for feeling sorry for her - NO WAI! She put herself in this position by dint of not stopping being a gossipy, manipulative teenage bitch who never learned that there are things you just don't say, and lengths to which you can go but will sully your own self in the process. Just because she's extra bad at it, doesn't mean she tugs at my heartstrings.  

As for thinking she's easily manipulated - so too are people who constantly try to manipulate others - it's all wheeling and dealing, and inevitably you lose out in the end.  They're not easily manipulated as such - just looking for the next toehold in their quest to dominate something really pointless.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: CaptainChris on 2008 April 20, 16:23:57

Exactly what was on my mind, except more poetic.

coconut, I wasn't implying the message was fake, I was just curious as to how it came about. The fact she dug her own grave by sending that to whoever it was made it even more sickening. I agree that if she speaks up about it and calls attention to the message, it would make her look guilty, she seems quite happy at playing the victim.

I have no sympathy for the scheming cow, because that is what she would want. She doesn't want to look like the guilty party as it would require Thomarse to take further action against her, sending TSR further down the shitter.



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 April 20, 17:18:33
*Nods in agreement with Calalily*
Let's not shoot the messenger.

Has anyone else noticed that Atwat no longer has the artist managers little tag on her mini site avatar? Could the shit be hitting the fan?  :-\

I can't remember if it was there before or not, but it's still on her forum profile, so I wouldn't read too much into it.

http://forums.thesimsresource.com/member.php?u=159134


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zillah on 2008 April 20, 17:48:20
Atwat = Schweinehund


But hey, don't take my word for it, my ancestry is suspect.
z


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 April 20, 17:57:42
I'm not sure what other side we are looking for? The times she didn't slur an ethnic group, gossip about FA's or mock someone who has a very serious medical condition? This gives her some positives in Pescado's book. I've winced a few times at the outright meanness towards Atwa in this thread, and the delusional love-struck weirdness makes me feel pity on some level. No matter what good qualities she may posses, she was nasty, hateful and delusional in this PM. It's her own fault, she's a grown woman. She shouldn't be surprised that there's a long line of people who would love to supply dirt on her.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 April 20, 18:04:58
But hey, don't take my word for it, my ancestry is suspect.

I cannot trust this bit - you are German.  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 April 20, 18:09:44
Very well said, redisenchanted.  Atwa is pathetic--literally--but it doesn't cancel out the IM.  That's one of the most degrading, ugly posts I've ever seen.  I don't tend to jump all out on anyone (exception Thomas) because everyone has done something regrettable sometime in his/her life, and I can't see the need to crucify anyone (exception Thomas).  But Atwa's done herself in with her own post.  Hoisted on her own postard, hahahaha.  (Got no sleep last night, sorry). :P



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 April 20, 18:44:58
Poor Atwa. Poor, poor misunderstood Atwa. Pitiful, pathetic poor little Atwa. Nobody likes her, nobody loves her. And it's all her own damn fault. She has no compassion, kindness, honesty, integrity, humour or talent. That makes for a pretty poor excuse for a person. The intelligence that coconut has been sharing is valuable in helping to understand just what in the hell is going on over there. It's a clusterfuck just waiting to explode and I want to be warned so that I have on my flack jacket and helmet.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: CaptainChris on 2008 April 20, 19:04:13
Don't forget the rum, popcorn, and of course, a camera to remember the historic moment!

I can just imagine nitwit sitting in he apartment, missmatched curtains, sex toys in the sink and a stockpile of coat hangers dangling from the ceiling.



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 April 20, 19:23:59
Guys, Coconut has an agenda. S/he obviously hates Atwa and wants to make her look bad. Coconut is not doing what s/he's doing just for the sake of gossip or lulz, s/he's doing it to destroy Atwa, and s/he's doing it by posting things behind Atwa's back.
I'm not trying to defend Atwa here, but I also don't trust Coconut, and neither should you.

Point taken. -  ;) But regardless of his or her motives, coconut did expose a side of atwa's personality that might be of particular interest to German TSR subscribers.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 April 20, 20:01:44
(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2627/byefl1.png)

Bye now, (http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/happy/happy0065.gif)

Looks like TSR finally caught her out!
http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/atwa/blog/



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Saraswati on 2008 April 20, 20:05:19
I think Thomas booted her to avoid an FA revolt.. I personally have no sympathy.. every time I've seen this type of personality they create this kind of havoc everywhere they are. If they're not creating melodrama about one thing, it's another.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Minolia on 2008 April 20, 20:10:05
You have to wonder if they managed to boot her in time or if too much damage has already been done in a lot of the relationships with the FA's. And I wonder if the straw that broke the camel's back was the screenshot that appeared today. ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: gyrobot on 2008 April 20, 20:11:39
WOOT! PESCADO HAS PWNED ATWAT'S HEAD FOR 500 GOLD

Atwat is no more, another paysite creator going up in a fiery ball.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 April 20, 20:12:27
But...but...but...who will replace Atwat - the worst of the worst?   :'( Buntah is insufficient, by dint of not being a total bitch. Without Atwat, there is nothing!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Fainiel on 2008 April 20, 20:16:22
*performs happy dance* I don't think we'll ever find out what really happened though, she's not very likely to come and dish the dirt is she?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 April 20, 20:19:47
OMG! Sherrie simply must send her a nasty email! She did that to Sherrie when her site went down! Something along the lines of this:

(http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2849/fuckofftimerm6.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: chemistrycourtney on 2008 April 20, 20:21:13
It was an IM on TSR, made in reply. It was not my IM, the person who released it to me no longer cares if she is banned from TSR. Atwa knows who this person is, but Atwa does not know who I am. Atwa is keeping quiet because pointing fingers is admitting her guilt. and finally yes, this is a genuine IM. It is not my problem to expose the owner of this IM. They may come forward themseves.

Ok.  I like it.  I was curious if you were the person being replied to, and if you were, what had you sent.  Thanks for sharing though.  That woman is vile, and any time I feel that pang of sadness for her, I just have to remind myself of all the terrible things she's done, and the destruction she's reaped, and the confidences she's broken, among many other things.  I appreciate the clarification though. 


ETA: just saw the news.  This moment is so good, I don't know if I can have another bite. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 April 20, 20:23:02
*does a merry pirate jig*

So all this shit over at TSR has finally hit the fan - I wonder if she walked or Thoma$$ got so scared about FAs leaving he booted her before it got even worse.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Minolia on 2008 April 20, 20:26:23
I get the feeling it's not something she'd volunteer for and the complete break with the community her blog mentions seems more like bitter feelings from being pushed rather than jumping.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 April 20, 20:27:53
Good point - she does seem upset by having to leave. But for all we know it could be just a ploy to get more people to join her ranks and start a full blown attack on Thoma$$.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 April 20, 20:41:10
Aw...was hoping she would be there for a bit longer to destroy TSR even more. Boo!!

She does indeed seem upset and bitter..certainly more likely she has been pushed not left on her own accord, and her language just backs that up completely. It is rather too late for Thomas to kick her to attempt to smooth the waves - TSR is sinking. The damage Atwa has caused in the SA ranks, in the FA ranks, the texture challenge fiasco and the damage caused by the staff's attitudes, the survey, the removing of comments, the raising of prices, the site being offline for maintenaince so regularly, the lack of regard for subscribers and normal members, is irreversible.



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Ferris on 2008 April 20, 21:12:25
Have you seen this already?

(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s116/FerrisSims/Batshit/AikeaRetiresTSR.png)
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s116/FerrisSims/Batshit/GelydhRetiresTSR.png)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 April 20, 21:13:56
Yep, in the "Aikea and Gelydh have their own site" thread just below this one in ARR! :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 April 20, 21:18:15
But now that Atwa's been booted out, will A_G and Gelydh & Teutonic Twats stay on their own sites, or will they go back to TSR?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 April 20, 21:20:52
Aw...was hoping she would be there for a bit longer to destroy TSR even more. Boo!!

She does indeed seem upset and bitter..certainly more likely she has been pushed not left on her own accord, and her language just backs that up completely. It is rather too late for Thomas to kick her to attempt to smooth the waves - TSR is sinking. The damage Atwa has caused in the SA ranks, in the FA ranks, the texture challenge fiasco and the damage caused by the staff's attitudes, the survey, the removing of comments, the raising of prices, the site being offline for maintenaince so regularly, the lack of regard for subscribers and normal members, is irreversible.



What a business genius Thomas is!   Just one or two of those things would cause a problem--it's hilarious to read the entire list. :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Charlotte on 2008 April 20, 21:21:20
But now that Atwa's been booted out, will A_G and Gelydh & Teutonic Twats stay on their own sites, or will they go back to TSR?

That's what I'm thinking.  I'm a little bit disappointed with atwa leaving - I really wished she would stick around longer to help that ship sink faster >:(


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Ferris on 2008 April 20, 21:21:54
Yep, in the "Aikea and Gelydh have their own site" thread just below this one in ARR! :)

Ouch...no rum today for Ferris.  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Charlotte on 2008 April 20, 21:23:11
Oops, sorry Ferris :D *gives Ferris some of her share of rum* :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Ash Redfern on 2008 April 20, 21:24:30
Yep, in the "Aikea and Gelydh have their own site" thread just below this one in ARR! :)

Ouch...no rum today for Ferris.  :D
Bah. Always rum for those who want it. ;)

And it is a very good day for it.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 April 20, 21:32:02
Yep, in the "Aikea and Gelydh have their own site" thread just below this one in ARR! :)

Ouch...no rum today for Ferris.  :D

*passes special rum* What Ash said- it is a good day :D

Aw...was hoping she would be there for a bit longer to destroy TSR even more. Boo!!

She does indeed seem upset and bitter..certainly more likely she has been pushed not left on her own accord, and her language just backs that up completely. It is rather too late for Thomas to kick her to attempt to smooth the waves - TSR is sinking. The damage Atwa has caused in the SA ranks, in the FA ranks, the texture challenge fiasco and the damage caused by the staff's attitudes, the survey, the removing of comments, the raising of prices, the site being offline for maintenaince so regularly, the lack of regard for subscribers and normal members, is irreversible.

What a business genius Thomas is!   Just one or two of those things would cause a problem--it's hilarious to read the entire list. :D

He is an idiot isn't he.  ::) By far one of the worst business men I have come across. Has also shown how manipulative and uncaring he is..granted, Atwa is not a nice person, but he played her and played on her weaknesses to make her even crazier then she was.

So who do reckon will leave next?  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 April 20, 21:49:05
So..

Atwa's blog is gone.

Aikea's and Gelydh's are still there. Still listed as FAs, creations still subscriber.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Witchboy on 2008 April 20, 21:53:37
Theres one comment on her blog in reply to her leaving TSR. I can't wait to see what others write in the comment section ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Minolia on 2008 April 20, 21:57:18
Well it does always take Thoma$$ plenty of time to switch anything to free...

But maybe he misjudged what he'd get from pushing Atwa overboard and has taken her back for now. ???


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 April 20, 22:00:58
But maybe he misjudged what he'd get from pushing Atwa overboard and has taken her back for now. ???

Am thinking more he's removed the blog to lessen the drama. Take a look at her forum profile (http://forums.thesimsresource.com/member.php?find=lastposter&f=537), if that goes back to how it was -with avatar, sig, title, etc- then I would agree with you that he has taken her back.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Minolia on 2008 April 20, 22:09:04
Am thinking more he's removed the blog to lessen the drama. Take a look at her forum profile (http://forums.thesimsresource.com/member.php?find=lastposter&f=537), if that goes back to how it was -with avatar, sig, title, etc- then I would agree with you that he has taken her back.

Yeah we'll have to wait and see. But looking at who's on the boards at the moment I so wish i had access to the FA & SA bits, it looks like there could well be some serious drama going on at the moment over there.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 April 20, 22:15:03
Rofl as do I, as do I. Am hoping Coconut and others may help us see into that though  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 April 20, 22:19:27
So..

Atwa's blog is gone.

Aikea's and Gelydh's are still there. Still listed as FAs, creations still subscriber.

Atwa's blog is there now,
http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/atwa/blog/

and Aikea and Gelydh are removed from FA listings
http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/featured/


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 April 20, 22:22:04
Yea blog is there, but the retiring blog entry is gone..well I don't see it


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 April 20, 22:33:40
So at what point do we stop discussing it and CELEBRATE? I want a party, dammit! A party! With champagne, confetti, balloons, and Katrina and the Waves singing "Walking on Sunshine" while we dance ourselves silly!



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: keirra on 2008 April 20, 22:35:03
I'm afraid to celebrate too much, what if something happens and they all return more evil than ever?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 April 20, 22:35:59
So at what point do we stop discussing it and CELEBRATE? I want a party, dammit! A party! With champagne, confetti, balloons, and Katrina and the Waves singing "Walking on Sunshine" while we dance ourselves silly!

I fucking love that song!! I'll be humming it from now on :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Feverish on 2008 April 20, 22:36:30
Walking on Sunshine? I don't really like that song. I prefer "Hit the Road Jack" by Ray Charles.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Minolia on 2008 April 20, 22:37:53
I demand a break-up video sims style directed by Sherrie!

Well a girl can dream!   ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Steerpike on 2008 April 20, 22:39:52
So at what point do we stop discussing it and CELEBRATE? I want a party, dammit! A party! With champagne, confetti, balloons, and Katrina and the Waves singing "Walking on Sunshine" while we dance ourselves silly!

I fucking love that song!! I'll be humming it from now on :P

Have you heard the dance version of it? Sacrilege. *shakes head*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 April 20, 22:40:50
Don't talk to me about sacrilege - just found this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q-5Xgkzb-f4&feature=related  >:( >:(


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 April 20, 22:45:48
The chicks sound exactly the same, they shoudl just dump one.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 April 20, 22:49:31
So at what point do we stop discussing it and CELEBRATE? I want a party, dammit! A party! With champagne, confetti, balloons, and Katrina and the Waves singing "Walking on Sunshine" while we dance ourselves silly!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eONhto0x_nI

(http://planetsmilies.net/party-smiley-553.gif)(http://planetsmilies.net/party-smiley-559.gif)
(http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/musik/music-smiley-026.gif)
(http://planetsmilies.net/party-smiley-551.gif)
(http://planetsmilies.net/party-smiley-540.gif)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 April 20, 22:55:38
WOOO! The original is always the best

*does a merry jig around her room, much to the amusement of the dog*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Witchboy on 2008 April 20, 23:02:17
*Passes Pirate Rum all round*

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/Witchboy/Signatures/GIF89c.gif)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/Witchboy/Birthday/pty-confetti.gif)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/Witchboy/Birthday/pty-confetti.gif)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/Witchboy/Birthday/pty-confetti.gif)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/Witchboy/Birthday/pty-confetti.gif)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 April 20, 23:20:20
Now THAT's what I'm talkin' about!

(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u194/MusicalMaven/LOLcatz/1160839962415.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 April 20, 23:26:42
The funniest thing is that I've never once seen atwat visible on the TSR forums, she usually spends all day in invisable mode stalking people, but tonight she's sat there in full visible attention whore mode, waiting for someone to PM her possibly about her 'illness' she made up mentioned in her blog. she's sure not going down without a final bitch fest LOL

which reminds me - however 'ill' this has supposidly made her, not only was it fully self inflicted but to try and gain attention from it on her leaving blog is pretty sick, concidering one of the things she was booted for is joking about someones brain tumor.

(http://planetsmilies.net/party-smiley-540.gif)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 April 20, 23:40:01
Poor Atwat...BEAT IT!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Witchboy on 2008 April 20, 23:47:05
Atwats Good Bye Song ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAKyHhuw1HA

Love this song too (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/Witchboy/Smileys%20Ect/Everyday/multistars.gif)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 April 20, 23:57:19
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ2tbneVvJU&feature=related (for snarky)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Tiz6INF7I
(http://planetsmilies.net/party-smiley-565.gif)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 April 21, 00:29:17
Damn it! I totally missed out!
I personally don't believe she is gone for good, she will pop up somewhere sometime. All pretence aside for some sort of war, of some kind. Is that me being too paranoid?
Either way I don't know what to trust half the time in these community wars, but when someone pulls up some hard to find evidence, it doesn't really matter who they are or what the agenda is.
The truth is just there to be interpreted. I choose to interpret this recent revelation as: The stupid woman finally shot herself in the foot, beyond fixing measure. And is out for blood.
Hahaha. Either way, she's gone from TSR!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/deelink/image54.gif)



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Witchboy on 2008 April 21, 00:34:56
TSR is capsizing like the SS Poseidon

1972
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DcAfisLMMX8&feature=related

2006
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RMMh8rrH95s&feature=related


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Shark*Tooth*Hester on 2008 April 21, 00:35:07
What a delightful explosion that was. I'm sure she'll pop up somewhere, there's plenty of rocks she can shimmy under in the meantime. But good sim soceity won't have her now because she'll taint the name of whatever enterprise she's involved with. She's a grown ass woman and it's about time her chickens came to roost so she'll learn how to act like one. I don't feel sorry for her, I feel sorry for the people she messed with playing her petty little games.

However, clearly she's messed with the wrong people this week.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r86fKe8U6X4&feature=related


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 April 21, 00:45:00
Oh you're so right, she's not gone for good, she may be gone on the surface, but rest assured she's still very busy on her PM stirring the pot. This way not only do we see the back of her, but can sleep well at night in the knowledge she's still destroying TSR from within as always  ;D  We got the best of both worlds!

now let your hair down and party like there's no tomorrow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTlWqW6fSYc

(http://www.websitegoodies.com/smilies/gfx/party0023.gif)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AsylumPrisoner on 2008 April 21, 01:20:26
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=S-uxxiAVdfI&feature=related
Woohoo! Atwat's gone from TSR! I'm so happy I could renew my sub!  NOT!   Only 14 days left and I am free of TSR!
Party Hearty Mateys! 
*Just ordered moar rum and cookies*

On a serious note, could Thoma$$'s wife have given the ULTIMATUM to Thoma$$?  Is that why Atwat had to leave? Just a thought...
Since the twat is obviously in love (ewww) with the asshole, perhaps the Asshole's Wife reads the forums, here or there...  maybe she put her foot down... On his throat, I hope.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 April 21, 02:14:44
Its possible, but I doubt it because Thomas's wife has actually met Atwat, so I would think the thought of grandma trout desperatly lusting after her husband would be the cause of more joking teasing and piss taking then any kind of rivalry.

It's more possible that she was fired for plotting against the FA's, bribing the SA's, racist remarks about Germans, leaking what the FA's are paid, lying, cheating, causing riots, paranoia to the extreme, falsly accusing everyone of piracy, informing everyone what Thomass was thinking (before he even thought it) and single handedly flushing TSR down the toilet where it belongs.. Take your pick!

BTW Love you avi, it looks the image of one of my cats.

Here's the sims themselves partying on my all time favorite sims video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61WyJKk-Gvg


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sherry on 2008 April 21, 02:52:21
Well that happened!  I was hoping she would be a little more dramatic in her exit but beggars can't be choosers can they?  So long as we are sharing you tube links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: monieeka on 2008 April 21, 03:28:09
This is super exciting :]
*throws confetti*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqxo1SKB0z8


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Markus on 2008 April 21, 03:58:11
Here's some more mood music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBIwYl8HG7I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBIwYl8HG7I)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-s4wWXTNRc&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-s4wWXTNRc&feature=related)

Couldn't find 'Little Bitch' by the Specials, but that would have fit Atwat too.





Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AsylumPrisoner on 2008 April 21, 04:03:19
Here's one for Atwat...  "could you please just go away?"
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wPffvMZJGIo


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 April 21, 04:19:23
Heh I love youtubesharing. And sometimes I think... well what does TSR and Atwat really think of us partying and watching their ship sink?

I can imagine the scenario: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6NdAUnnU9Ac  ;D  ;D

Yay! Cheers! Party! Bye Bye Twat!  :-* Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: CaptainChris on 2008 April 21, 05:32:51
Dammit! I fall asleep and miss the party, as always!

Bye bye nitwit, you won't be missed, but then, I suspect your crazy will show up somewhere! :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Chii on 2008 April 21, 06:29:21
Heya, I'm new. Zees eez gudz news! ^_^

We could also play (I Hate) Everything About You by Three Days Grace. >.>


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 April 21, 06:37:26
I didn't have time to watch all the videos until just now - it's definitely a way better with music. Which is why I brought this one:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=m_Yyao8obPc
(I don't think it's already been linked to, but it's possible I missed one or forgot. In which case sorry.)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jess Maree on 2008 April 21, 07:03:09
*throws confetti and passes rum*

Fuck YEAH! Bye bye Atwat. You won't be missed. And take your shitkicker pixels with you!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Witchboy on 2008 April 21, 07:13:52
Heres a good one.....

It's Joan Crawford vs. ABBA

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vGkjmUsIFR0

;D :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 April 21, 09:50:06
Whoa. I didn't know Joan Crawford made "Atwa: The movie"

Poor SA...getting slapped like that. hehe . Awesome WB!

*noms your cookies and gives you a big bottle of special label rum*

yay! Celebrate!  :-*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: chemistrycourtney on 2008 April 21, 13:54:42
now, now.  I think we need a friendly goodbye.   ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjmPoTTRUfU



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 April 21, 14:19:19
*staggers through thread with massive hangover*

 *gives all cookies and rum to Dee for the Atwa movie*

*remembers Rick Astley song  and runs to bathroom * (http://www.websmileys.com/sm/obscene/eck09.gif)

LOL my son came in just after I clicked the link, laughing "Ha Ha -you just got Rick Rolled"



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Fainiel on 2008 April 21, 14:40:48
*sidles in late* Woooo! I brought choccy, who wants some?  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Lilwen on 2008 April 21, 14:51:38
Its a shame she left like she did,i was really hoping for a bigger more drama filled exit.But lets hope this is just the start of the death of TSR. ;D All we need now is some more rum filled cookies.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 April 21, 15:31:59
OH, I expect the real drama is yet to come. I can't imagine Atwa going quietly into that good night...I suspect she'll go to some sims forums and start bitching publicly.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 April 21, 15:56:02
it's already started  ;D  the always invisable atwat put herself in 'look at me' visable mode on the forums all last night. before this her blog comments were a mere 2, today the word has mysteriously spread. This comment says it all

Quote
I read your post at forum few hours ago, but I still don't know what to write.

there is no post on the forum, so he/she is either refering to one of atwats back stab PM's or atwats forum post was deleted for some reason. Either way she's bitching big time!

http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/atwa/comments/?blogID=7240







Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: CaptainChris on 2008 April 21, 16:04:02
Quote
On Apr 21, 2008 macgirlffx wrote:

We all need to do what is right for us. Whatever that may be. It is a shame that a large portion of the community has forgotten that this is a game, for fun, and only a hobby.
I know I've thanked you before for your help but I'll thank you again. I really appreciate you tending to my issues.
I wish you well.

That one caught my eye. I wonder what Thomarse would have to say on that matter.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: minionsRmine on 2008 April 21, 16:29:16
Atwa's a liar. Or drunk. Or maybe both. She's not gonna leave the Sims community. I'm sure she's got some ideas going through her head.....

a. Hunt down Thomas and punish him because didn't he know she's Queen of TSR???
b. Join a sims community with another alias, make some drama, then announce she's "the artist formerly known as" Atwa from TSR, thinking they'll all worship her.
*c. Join up with Peggy because hey....with Peggy's gaply goodness and Atwa's retina-burning pixels, they'll surely become millionaires!

Ah, good times, good times. *waits patiently with rum and choco chip cookies*  :D

*can't you just imagine the dramz between those two? Catfights, FTW!!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 April 21, 16:38:10
I will say this: Atwa better stay away from the German sims forums - you KNOW that her PM has got to be there too, and I can't imagine they'll let her leave alive. Birgit and the TTs must be just TICKLED that she's gone.

ETA: Although, I'd pay money to see the fights in action. I might even learn a little more German ... you know, for the lulz.  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 April 21, 17:41:36
I was catching up, since I got in this Sims tunnel-vision this weekend (which is odd, all last week I was feeling bored with the game).
So, pirates, who do you think is Coconut? My money is on DOT.  ;D
Even if it is not her, I'm trying to fan the flames the best I can, as we know TSR spies read here regularly.
I actually really like DOT, even though she's on the wrong side. She gives me the giggles.

Personally I think she is "braindead". Like Hecubus I am german, only I am all german, not just half, and I take serious offense to that remark.
Ask Paden, I am one of the most trustworthy people you will ever meet. You can tell me your deepest darkest secret and I will NOT tell another soul....................then again I have short-term memory problems,  ;D 
Hey, me too! But I'm only half-German.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Markus on 2008 April 21, 19:45:12
Maybe she'll team up with Jan.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 April 21, 20:01:56
I don't believe for a second that Atwat is really gone.  It's a nice thought though.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 April 21, 21:35:11
I do wonder where she'll try to show up next, tho. People like that, they dont' just "disappear". They need the drama way too much for that.

And those of us who are drama voyeurs, love them for that. You just can't keep a real drama llama down!  ;)

ETA: because I forgot to comment on this.

So, pirates, who do you think is Coconut? My money is on DOT.  ;D
Even if it is not her, I'm trying to fan the flames the best I can, as we know TSR spies read here regularly.
I actually really like DOT, even though she's on the wrong side. She gives me the giggles.

I have nothing personally against DOT. I didn't even think it was her, I was just trying to feed Atwa's paranoia. ;D

Hope Coconut will post moar funny gossip about TSR here even though Atwa's gone.
If s/he did, I'd actually be more inclined to believe him/her now, as Atwa's gone, and it would be done solely for the sake of lulz.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: WedgewoodBlue on 2008 April 22, 12:08:01
Wow, I am very nearly speechless with joy. But I am curious as to know if she was "fired" by the love of her life, Thoma$$.
After all "love hath no fury like a woman scorned" (or however that goes). If she does show up somewhere and starts spewing all her crap, it should be interesting to see how she explains everything, if indeed she ever does.
It is kind of sad in a way to see her meltdown, so to speak, but on the other hand, it's long overdue. Karma, it's a bitch when things like that catch up with you. Then again, she made her bed, now she has to lay in it. She slept with dogs, and woke up with fleas. (No disrespect intended to any dog, it's the only thing I can remember my dad always telling me.)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: rtgkbg on 2008 April 22, 12:11:19
Maybe Atwat's planning on coming with her raggedy tail between her legs, say that she's changed her ways, and ask if she can become a Pirate! ...?...  What then???   :o


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 April 22, 12:33:25
If you're into sceming hating women who think everyone's after them and therefore need to be destroyed, and falls in love with Pescado, then you'll have the time of your life.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Ferris on 2008 April 22, 13:02:03
I will say this: Atwa better stay away from the German sims forums - you KNOW that her PM has got to be there too, and I can't imagine they'll let her leave alive. Birgit and the TTs must be just TICKLED that she's gone.

ETA: Although, I'd pay money to see the fights in action. I might even learn a little more German ... you know, for the lulz.  ;D

I doubt it'll be mentioned in any German forum.
On Simforum it's not even allowed to discuss the pay/free war anymore, so I bet any thread reffering to this little gem will be deleted immediately.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Yaardarm Monkey II on 2008 April 22, 13:48:11

Who said "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"?

 
While many attribute the quote to William Shakespeare,
it actually comes from a play called the "The Mourning Bride" (1697) by William Congreve.
The complete quote is:
"Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned / Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned." 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 April 22, 15:42:56
Hope Coconut will post moar funny gossip about TSR here even though Atwa's gone.
If s/he did, I'd actually be more inclined to believe him/her now, as Atwa's gone, and it would be done solely for the sake of lulz.

That would be cool  :D although I certainly don't need any more 'proof' to believe him/her. I was at TSR when coconut first posted here, and everything he/she posted was true. some of it I didn't know beforehand, but atwat confirmed it at the time as being true and some of it was things she said only certain people knew, I'd never seen TSR so rattled, they were in full panic mode. Unfortunatly coconuts posts disappeared shortly after in the blue soup deletion, much to the twatty ones amusement. and he/she never came back. This time again, the intel seems to be spot on. they told us to expect FA's leaving, which they have, and also I know from reading the PM post that atwa has never changed, the things in that post is the same shit she's been spilling for years, even down to the  'delete this PM' warning. Atwats firing was just confirmation of the obvious. TSR had no option but to fire her this time, they wouldn't want the paying public to know they have racist staff. They will tell the sheep she retired due to illness, and sweep the whole nasty PM under the rug.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: WedgewoodBlue on 2008 April 26, 19:11:33
Thanks Yaardarm, I knew I had gotten that saying wrong but for the life of me I couldn't remember it correctly.  :-*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: torque on 2008 April 26, 20:10:44
Quote
Thanks for everything you have given me.

Aww, see? She is thanking for the monies she got. *teary eyed*

Elvis has left the building!!!!
*shakes booty*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: idtaminger on 2008 April 26, 20:25:37
It's funny. The first time I ever heard of this woman was at PMBD. Since then, every time I've come across her name at TSR or whatever, I've never been able to read it as anything other than A-Twat.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Wench in Training on 2008 April 27, 22:01:55
Atwat was in the TSR forums this morning in full view, so much for her disappearance act!

LEAVE ALREADY!!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Saraswati on 2008 April 27, 22:12:38
we've all reached the conclusion that she's not really gone. If she was, she would've pulled a Lyric Lee and would be on another forum, bitching. We think they're saving her for the politician's trick.. y'know, wait three months and she decides to "unretire"?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: ShockValue on 2008 April 27, 23:38:04
Atwat has no intention of giving up on the community that she thinks loves her so dearly. She has own momentarily choked on her own venom but rest assured she will not go away. Like any truly bad STD she will continue to return and nothing will wipe her out....


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: tIIsuggas on 2008 April 28, 09:08:24
Like any truly bad STD she will continue to return and nothing will wipe her out....

Patient:  "What's the diagnosis Doc?"
Doc:  I'm very sorry to have to tell you this, but.......you have a really bad case of atwat.  It will take 30 days of very strong antibiotics (to be taken 8 times a day on an empty stomach) and an extreme cleaning regime, using industrial strength disinfectants to reduced this down to manageable levels.  I am sorry, but you will never be rid.  It will lie dormant in your system, and flare up now and again."



I'm in one of them there moods today.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: tjae on 2008 April 28, 12:44:05
she has obviously been moooooching through all of the posts on here, and to all those that sang
"gone, gone the witch has gone " she's just showing you all that she is still as far up thomasses ass as far as she can be.
or she is just purely looking for whose left the sinking ship and who she can brown nose next.
but we all have to be grateful that at this moment we don't all have to suffer her wounderful (*gag, baaaaarf*) and oooohh soooo sh***  sorry so lovely creation's
i mean all  of the other creator's pale in her comparrison


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Azaya on 2008 April 28, 13:07:25
Like any truly bad STD she will continue to return and nothing will wipe her out....

Patient:  "What's the diagnosis Doc?"
Doc:  I'm very sorry to have to tell you this, but.......you have a really bad case of atwat.  It will take 30 days of very strong antibiotics (to be taken 8 times a day on an empty stomach) and an extreme cleaning regime, using industrial strength disinfectants to reduced this down to manageable levels.  I am sorry, but you will never be rid.  It will lie dormant in your system, and flare up now and again."



I'm in one of them there moods today.

Oh thank you, there's Cherry Coke all over my monitor now.  :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 April 28, 22:29:23
Quote from: ShockValue
Atwat has no intention of giving up on the community that she thinks loves her so dearly. She has own momentarily choked on her own venom but rest assured she will not go away. Like any truly bad STD she will continue to return and nothing will wipe her out....

That was hilarious. Well, I'm guessing that her next step would be opening her own site. That way she can be The Supreme Site Commander and Artist Manager. Maybe she'll call it The Atwa Zone or Atwa's House of Texture. I'd recommend Atwat's G-Spot.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Saraswati on 2008 April 29, 05:49:21
*tittering* Snarky..*tearing and choking* I nearly fell off my chair there.. You guys are on form today, it's a beautiful thing... and it's making my crappy, stuck at home 'cos I'm sick afternoon.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: CaptainChris on 2008 April 29, 06:10:10
Atwat's G-spot, Thanks Snarky, I could have done without THAT mental image.  >:( :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Tabby on 2008 April 29, 14:55:47


That was hilarious. Well, I'm guessing that her next step would be opening her own site. That way she can be The Supreme Site Commander and Artist Manager. Maybe she'll call it The Atwa Zone or Atwa's House of Texture. I'd recommend Atwat's G-Spot.

Ew...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Witchboy on 2008 April 29, 15:19:47
I'd recommend Atwat's G-Spot.

Look i found Atwat's G-Spot (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/Witchboy/Smileys%20Ect/Everyday/lol.gif)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/Witchboy/Animated%20Jokes/gspot.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 April 29, 15:23:05
I'd recommend Atwat's G-Spot.

Look i found Atwat's G-Spot <snipped image>

And I was expecting tubgirl.  :'(


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 May 01, 11:32:56
There are a LOT of possibilities..the most plausible? She throws a tantrum everytime Thomas threatens her with anything and puffs herself up bigger than she is, and since he's a spineless scumbag with the IQ of a half dead seaflea, he just caves in. The most entertaining? is that she performed oral sex on him once and to prevent it from happening it again, he does what she pleases. Because somehow she got his address and phone number, ala Glen Close from Fatal Attraction.

There Captain Chris, is a man who values his manbits! (no matter how small, or shrivelled up ThomaSS's might be)
And now that I have that mental image, excuse me while I go drink myself into a rum-induced coma.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: CaptainChris on 2008 May 01, 13:18:18
Oh god deelink, that's the 2nd time I sprayed my screen with Coca Cola tonight. The other time involved hearing about a friend of mine waking up on the lawn of a local newsreader, dressed in a Pirate outfit.

Atwat isn't still on the books is she? I thought she'd been fired, but not yet pushed out the door?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 May 01, 13:36:46
. Because somehow she got his address and phone number, ala Glen Close from Fatal Attraction.

There's no somehow about it, she has his home phone, mobile/cell number,she also has his home address, and she has been to his house and took pictures of his turtles, Tomass knows if he's not careful, we're talking turtle soup here!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: torque on 2008 May 01, 13:51:23
We talking Bunny Boiler here?

Thomas better hide his turtles...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Tabby on 2008 May 01, 13:54:01
Ok, so I have banned myself from here while I am at work. If I keep laughing out loud like I just did, someone will call the padded wagon.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: CaptainChris on 2008 May 01, 14:04:43
Those poor poor toitles having to live with Thomass and put up with the traumatisation of being in the same room as Atwat, as well as being one of her prospective meals  :-[

Tabby, you say padded wagon like it's a bad thing  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 May 01, 14:07:19
There's no somehow about it, she has his home phone, mobile/cell number,she also has his home address, and she has been to his house and took pictures of his turtles, Tomass knows if he's not careful, we're talking turtle soup here!

Gah! Imagine having Atwat stalking you...dear lord I need some rum *shudder*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Tabby on 2008 May 01, 14:16:48
You know, it might actually be a welcome escape. When they come to get me I will treat it like a vacation, but with more padding.  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: CaptainChris on 2008 May 01, 16:01:06
And enough little white pills to make you think you can traverse backwards in time  ;D

As for Atwat stalking Thomass, Karma perhaps?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 May 01, 16:26:07
How can an earth-shaking Brontosaurus be said to stalk anything? I picture Atwat as looking somewhat like Dino from the Flintstones, only more garishly coloured and much, much bigger. Not to mention meaner and more stupid. That's just what comes to mind when I remember seeing her picture. Those tiny turtles had better quake in their shells because while normal brontos were herbivores. Atwat has a mouth like a T-rex. On another note, I've heard you need a mouth that size to kiss her ass, so she and Tommy boy are suited to each other. It's true, the bigger your ego, the larger your ass. She sits on her ego all of the time!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Yaardarm Monkey II on 2008 May 02, 00:25:38
How can an earth-shaking Brontosaurus be said to stalk anything? I picture Atwat as looking somewhat like Dino from the Flintstones, only more garishly coloured and much, much bigger. Not to mention meaner and more stupid.


would THIS DESCRIPTION (http://www.tvacres.com/char_bobeck_mimi.htm)  fit Atwat?


 :o     :D     :o


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Tabby on 2008 May 03, 01:20:54
 Oh Lord. I haven't thought about Mimi in ages! She still scares me, if Atwat is anything like her I am spending even less time at TSR.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 May 09, 21:34:19
Hello! Newbie hear! Lurker for a while though!

Just thought I'd point out that atwat no longer has artisit manager or featured artist or any of that bull on her forum status, no idea if someone else has mentioned it yet as I haven't had a chance to read all the loverly threads about TSR (lol), but thought it'd be good to point it out so you can all point and laugh...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 May 09, 22:36:50
Yeah, that was about as stupid a post as I've seen. You decided to post news we PROBABLY had, but weren't sure of, because you're LAZY?

Go read the FAQ and THINK before you post again.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 May 09, 23:04:27
Lol, sorry Hecubus :]

*Goes off to read*

ETA : Oh, and just to clarify not lazy, had literally got in from work bout 5 mins before typing that, and wrote on here as soon as I saw, like a little sneak that I am.

Didn't mean to piss off :]


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 May 10, 02:49:05
Lol, sorry Hecubus :]

*Goes off to read*

ETA : Oh, and just to clarify not lazy, had literally got in from work bout 5 mins before typing that, and wrote on here as soon as I saw, like a little sneak that I am.

Didn't mean to piss off :]

Scamp. If you follow the rules, all is forgiven.  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: pixelated on 2008 May 14, 14:00:38
That was indeed rather stupid, seeing as the first post in this thread says:

Quote
I was just notified that everyone's 'favorite' Artist Manager is no longer at TSR. She's not an FA, not an SA, not anywhere.

 ::)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 May 14, 18:34:13
Sorry Beth, that's an already old news ;D
But welcome aboard, read FAQS, etc etc *hands rum and cookies* ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 May 14, 22:48:55
Done and dusted :P

Ya when i posted I was pointing out that she no longer had all that shizzles under her forum name, didn't realise the OP of that post had that mentioned in there too :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 May 14, 23:52:36
And that's why I said you were being lazy; at the very LEAST, if you have something you want to post on a long thread, you read the first post all the way through, and then look to see what other information is provided on subsequent pages. Not doing that makes your post look stupid and you as a poster look lazy.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 May 15, 21:19:59
Yup, learnt my lesson ;]
:]


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: BobbinRobbin on 2008 May 27, 17:38:13
I have heard from a little birdie, that Atwa's back at TSR......no surprise, really.....but she is there now under a new name and with TSR blessings...although, I did hear a couple of FA's are bitchin about it, don't blame them, poor things.

But she appears to be back for round 2. sigh. You guys may already know this. Hehe, you guys have eyes everywhere, hehe.

Not sure what name she is using now....anyone think they can find out?



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 May 27, 17:44:31
Should be easy enough to figure it out. Just follow the fugly and fighting and in the midst of it all you'll find Atwat.

Since Atwat is back, Coconut will probably continue posting her inside info as well... Excellent! <does mr. Burns impersonation>


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: BobbinRobbin on 2008 May 27, 18:06:21
Not sure if she is designing tho....I think not....so the fugly won't be available to spot...but she is there and saying nasty stuff as usual.....doing all the lovely, havoc-wreaking stuff she is known for behind the scenes again.....honestly, why won't she just go away? I know, wishful thinking....sigh. I'd like to know her new name tho...keep an eye on her.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 May 27, 18:32:17
I have heard from a little birdie, that Atwa's back at TSR......no surprise, really.....but she is there now under a new name and with TSR blessings...although, I did hear a couple of FA's are bitchin about it, don't blame them, poor things.

Of course she'd be back - this is her stomping ground.  As for TSR blessings - well if FAs want moneys, they have to pay the price - one price is us, and the other price is Atwat. I don't feel sorry for them at all - they chose to be there, and they continue to choose to be there. They don't actually have to put up with it - they've made enough money, I'm sure, to pay for one year's hosting.

As for why won't she just leave - she's too valuable to Tom Ass - he doesn't want those FAs too happy, or feeling like they've got it made - he wants them to work for their spots.  If they're happy they won't produce as prolifically in order to try to gain favour, and might start demanding more stuff from him. This is of course, a fine line, but you can always promote an SA to the position if an FA implodes.  That's why they have SAs.

Otherwise, it serves his purposes to keep the infighting going - they all come to him like sheep rounded up by a nipping dog - and he is their shepherd.  And if they all gang up together and get rid of Atwat, they might start demanding more money or scrutinise TSR more - and that's the last thing he wants.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 May 27, 19:45:33
did anyone not think the bitch would be back??!!??  ::)  She went away wayyyyy to quietly for it to be permanent...just long enough to have ThomAss  try to yank our stuff down with some lame ass excuse, and much lying on his part to boot...and then use us to set an example of what happens when the sheeple get restless and question the dictatorship...Bah, I made him take my stuff down...don't want it there.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Kragey on 2008 May 27, 21:00:44
I am a BIT surprise, just because it seemed like a very short leave of absence. But I'm not surprised that she's back.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 May 27, 21:24:32
*slaps own forehead*

God daaaammit! I'm not surprised, either, but that doesn't mean I'm not pissed off. The fact that she's apparently not creating is just a minor reprieve from the full spectrum of horror that she dishes out. I think Thomass is under the impression that since Aikea & Gelydh are gone, the anti-Atwat camp may have settled down enough to allow her to return relatively unhindered. Well, considering her general pattern of behavior, I give it a month or two at most before the movement regains its momentum. Down with Atwat!

Please, please tell me someone can get that new name, and soon.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 May 27, 21:56:10
I'm sure she'll give herself away soon, someone that is so ugly deep down inside can't contain it for long. It will burst forth like a sore upon the hind end of a troll... Oh wait, she's a company employed troll... Well, she'll just leak out all over the place who she is and what she is because something that nasty can't be hidden. Just look for the newest and ugliest shit uploaded by a very new member, if she can't resist the command to keep them to herself.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 May 27, 22:31:24
What? Did she just take a trip to some fugly dimension to recharge her fugliness? Anyway -

Like a case of herpes, you're back, Atwat. And you still suck.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: coconut on 2008 May 28, 01:13:40
Atwa's new name is BeaSims, and you are correct, she is still causing trouble for her old enemies with no sign of letting up. and a lot of people are getting upset again.
 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 May 28, 01:17:37
HAHAHA, I've seen Beasims stuff at TSR and thought to myself that it is exceptionally fugly.  Now we know why. ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 May 28, 01:17:59
Beastsim? Alright. Gosh, she just..can't let go can she? What a twat.  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Renegade on 2008 May 28, 03:07:52
What's the point of all this shit?

Is ThomA$$ actively seeking ways to destroy TSR from within?  Not that I'm complaining, but it makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Atwat must have some dirt on ThomA$$ - why else would he keep her around?  As someone said before, I doubt it's for the head anymore..

Edit: How exactly do we know she is BeaSims?  And if so, how can she be causing trouble for FAs if she doesn't have access to that area under a "basic" creator account?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: CaptainChris on 2008 May 28, 04:25:11
Are we sure Atwat=BeaSims? There seems to be SOME effort of coordination in the crap that's uploaded. Although if it is, the mental image of Atwat in clubgear, desperately stalking men in bars fills me with fear.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: BobbinRobbin on 2008 May 28, 06:06:14
Are we sure Atwat=BeaSims? There seems to be SOME effort of coordination in the crap that's uploaded. Although if it is, the mental image of Atwat in clubgear, desperately stalking men in bars fills me with fear.

Well, to my way of thinking, if Coconut is correct and BeaSims IS Atwa, then she would not need the 'FA' title to access top admin areas....she had all that influence and access even when she had let go of her previous FA status, before she "left". So, she has access, most likely with Thomass' blessings.

Also, considering what that I'm now hearing from some FA friends I know, she is being very loud on the FA forums, saying some nasty things about specific former TSR people who left to start their own site. Those people have spurned her, so she is having a little temper tantrum, apparently. And trying to control things again, bullying people, saying whatever she wants about whomever she wants, whatever her little unstable mind throws out. She really is a major piece of work, yup.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: madfairy on 2008 May 28, 06:08:49
I think Atwat shoul be eutanazed.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Renegade on 2008 May 28, 06:18:07
Also, considering what that I'm now hearing from some FA friends I know, she is being very loud on the FA forums

So BeaSims IS on the FA boards?  If so, then that would pretty much confirm it's Atwat.  Why would ThomA$$ allow her back in, to cause trouble for other FA's?  Quite literally, his business revolves around the FAs.  He doesn't have to be smart to know that allowing her back in would make more FAs leave => less subscribers to TSR.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: CaptainChris on 2008 May 28, 07:53:20
Although Fewer FA's = More money going into his pockets, and less going into FA pockets. She really must have some good dirt on him if he keeps Grandma Moses around.  >:(


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 May 28, 08:15:09
http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/beasims/about/ So Atwa is pretending to be a French goth called Bea?

I don't quite buy that. Share the proof of it please, coconut.

Atwa still has her working account, she still has a mini site, still has access on the forum, still can spy on people, still can wind things up.. still can do all the little things she wishes to do..so why would she need another account?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 May 28, 12:21:51
the twatty one has always been into goth and france, her sister lives in france, which atwat has always bragged about, she speaks french fluently, and she has always had a large amount of goth/fug/pornqueen sims on her own home website. makes ya wonder if this is where her jealousy of Aikea came from.

from her homepage:

http://hem.bredband.net/mixat/thesims_black.htm
http://hem.bredband.net/mixat/the_sims_english.htm

of course she will take these down when she reads this, however I have saved it.  ;)



ETA: is it just a coincidence that atwats beasims first forum post was to plug the twatty ones condecending 'uploading for dummies' tutorial?

http://forums.thesimsresource.com/showthread.php?t=354865


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 May 28, 12:54:57
Why don't the FA's just tell her to stfu and get over herself? She's worthless if she's only there to cause drama.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 May 29, 11:01:58
Also, considering what that I'm now hearing from some FA friends I know, she is being very loud on the FA forums, saying some nasty things about specific former TSR people who left to start their own site. Those people have spurned her, so she is having a little temper tantrum, apparently.

Hahahaha! That woman will bitch to her grave (she'll probably be kicking and screaming as they throw her in). I'm guessing either Naturalsims or Aikea Guinea & Gelydh - she's probably been to both sites and see they are waaaay much better then T$R (especially the latter - their site and downloads are so good) and how they seem to be survivng without their beloved T$R and isn't best pleased :D

Makes for good drama and lulz though!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: devilsrope on 2008 May 29, 11:59:38
Bea-atwat. Be.A.Twat. Beatwat. Well, she got one thing right anyway.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: rtgkbg on 2008 May 29, 13:08:05
Quote from Beasims in the thread that Sherrie so kindly shared with us:

"When I started to submit not long ago I found this submission tutorial and on the submission page are more instructions on how you submit. There are pictures on how to use the wizard there too"

LMAO that she so innocently plugs her own tutorial!!  Hahahha....  What a twit!  -ETA:  I mean.... What a twat!  ;)



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 May 29, 13:27:50
Why don't the FA's just tell her to stfu and get over herself? She's worthless if she's only there to cause drama.

You almost get this sense that something will bust open soon - you know, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. I hope some of the smarter FAs call Thomas on this.

::::gets the popcorn and Milk Duds ready::::


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sherry on 2008 May 29, 14:32:57
I just want to know what she has on Thomas that she is even still around?  I don't buy that he is that retarded enough to not realize she is a cause of concern and strife for the very same people who bring in his income. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: CaptainChris on 2008 May 29, 15:24:23
As disgusting as it is, I think it must be something like them playing "Hide the sausage" (Well, in thoma$$' case, "Hide the Macaroni").

*sets up shop in front of the computer with his bowl of cereal and popcorn*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Kragey on 2008 May 29, 15:28:14
...she speaks french fluently...

According to my French relatives, her French is subpar and isn't worth bragging over.

Bea-atwat. Be.A.Twat. Beatwat. Well, she got one thing right anyway.

I LOLed hardcore. XD


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 May 29, 16:08:10
I just want to know what she has on Thomas that she is even still around?  I don't buy that he is that retarded enough to not realize she is a cause of concern and strife for the very same people who bring in his income. 

I do. Aikea said that she complained many times about her treatment at Atwat's hands, and he didn't get rid of her the first time. Now this is despite the fact that her content was soo valuable to him, he didn't even want to stop receiving revenue for it after she left, and had to be prodded to make it free.  If he didn't champion his moneymaker the first time, why would he do so now? 

IIRC, she also said that Tom Ass had talked her out of leaving many, many times, and was surprised when she actually left. And the fact that he allowed her back is just more of his overconfidence in his ability to convince his FAs to stay. I will say that Tom Ass is very good at glossing over the failings and failures of TSR - very good at talking the place up to his customers (who buy the PG13 rule despite the smutty content here) and all the other problems.  Five times on the front intro page to TSR, the word "community" is used 5 times, yet talk of money is minimised - what is stressed instead is the "80% free content".

He relies on the carrot and the stick.  He is the carrot, Atwat is the stick. That's all she's got on him.  It doesn't have to be some *frankly* nauseating affair - just simple manipulation.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Renegade on 2008 May 29, 17:18:28
Ok, but ThomA$$ knows that FAs are getting fed up to the point of leaving, and Atwat doesn't help that.  Allowing her back does nothing but push FAs further away.  How the hell can Atwat manipulate Thomas?  No, she really must have something on him, because there is NO way she can be more valuable to him than the FAs.  TSR gets people buying subscriptions because of the "talented" FAs; once they leave, there's no longer a reason to subscribe.

After bringing back a lying, crazy witch who does nothing but cause problems, how would Thomas convince his FAs to stay, short of offering more money?

Quote
Why don't the FA's just tell her to stfu and get over herself? She's worthless if she's only there to cause drama.

That's another thing.  Why don't they just tell her to stfu & gtfo?  That way ThomA$$ can keep his little whore, but she won't try bothering the FAs anymore because they'll just tell her to fuck off.  It would be incredibly difficult for her to continue causing problems if people just stopped replying to her posts on the forum, and putting her on Ignore so they don't receive her PM's..


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 May 29, 17:56:34
Ok, but ThomA$$ knows that FAs are getting fed up to the point of leaving, and Atwat doesn't help that. 

2 FAs is not a lot at once.  He's gotten what, 6 or so more since then?

Cyclonesue just stepped down as AM according to aikea's post - and many of them bitch and complain, yet don't leave.  Aikea doesn't say that it's *just* Atwat that caused her to leave. She makes it explicitly clear that it wasn't just Atwat - but other drama around the place.

Let's not also neglect to mention that he's gotten SAs and promoted them to FAs, which may in fact be paid at cheaper rates - not that I think he funnels most of the profits towards the FAs - doubtless there is a huge stipend for him.  Even if they're paid the same, it's not a cost increase.

Seeing as I doubt he plays the sims, and actively prevents any linkage to other sites for various "PG13" reasons (which taints these sites to the point where some people are no doubt afraid to even look at them) content and player desires are all unknown factors to him.  There was an outcry from some subscribers when the survey even hinted that he would remove shitty recolours - so not all of them pay because of FAs, but rather sucked in by the encouraged "community" factor.

Allowing her back does nothing but push FAs further away. 

Yet, they don't actually leave.  Despite how awful she is to them they stay - even Aikea was talked back into staying.  She might push them away, but he obviously relies on his ability to talk them back around. Carrot and stick.

TSR gets people buying subscriptions because of the "talented" FAs; once they leave, there's no longer a reason to subscribe.

Hence why there are many FAs - and many SAs to fill in the gaps.  They promote someone quite frequently - so he always has backup.  It's also less important for him to have backup now that Sims 2 is winding down.  Their quality may not be fantastic in Sims 3 - many people had difficulty learning something new and maintaining a high standard when transitioning from Sims 1 into Sims 2 - so there's no guarantee he'll want those FAs when Sims 3 comes around. And why should he when he can lock the content away as pay sometime later?

After bringing back a lying, crazy witch who does nothing but cause problems, how would Thomas convince his FAs to stay, short of offering more money?

Chat - Aikea talked of Tom Ass talking her into staying - just his last time was unsuccessful. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Markus on 2008 May 29, 18:56:23
Does this mean we can call Atwat PeeSims now?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 May 30, 00:37:29
I thought of Beastsims to begin with but Beatwat sounds much better :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 May 30, 06:10:01
I just want to know what she has on Thomas that she is even still around?

Fade to TSR headquarters.

Thomass: People hate you. You're fired.

Atwat: But you can't fire me, I love power - I mean you!

Thomass: Beat it.

Atwat: I'll tell everyone about our night of passion, when you were drunk and thought I was NeptuneSuzy.

Thomass: You'll have to change your name and wear a wig.

Atwat: Done. Want to see the Bobble Sisters now? (begins to lift her heavy cable knit sweater - sexily)

Thomass: (panicked) Err..no time. Buntah is coming by to show me her latest...um...squares...yeah, that's it.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 May 30, 06:18:27
I don't think I'm going to sleep for a week.  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Smeagol on 2008 May 30, 07:28:24
<------  is retching at the thought of atwat + thomas in a night of drunken passion  :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Witchboy on 2008 May 30, 09:58:32
I don't think I'm going to sleep for a week.  :D

Just think of what their fugly offspring looks like after their one night of drunkin passion :D Something along the lines of Jake Tucker from Family Guy ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/Witchboy/Preview%20Pics/freak_tn.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: pixelated on 2008 May 30, 11:11:45
the twatty one has always been into goth and france, her sister lives in france, which atwat has always bragged about, she speaks french fluently, and she has always had a large amount of goth/fug/pornqueen sims on her own home website. makes ya wonder if this is where her jealousy of Aikea came from.

from her homepage:

http://hem.bredband.net/mixat/thesims_black.htm
http://hem.bredband.net/mixat/the_sims_english.htm

of course she will take these down when she reads this, however I have saved it.  ;)


How come no-one has commented on this? That first link is HILARIOUS. I was under the impression that this was a mature (lol) woman, yet the first link is something I'd expect from a 12 year old. Gothified self-sim with a cheating husband, and a son with really disturbing Speedos. Really, I laughed. :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 May 30, 13:33:33
OMG...that's bad. I mean, BAAAD.

Hey Diet of Worms! I found our Contest Winner! (Oh wait, does the original creator count? LOL)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: CaptainChris on 2008 May 30, 14:18:57
I just noticed the presence of the eunuch speedo in those pictures. If this is what gets BeAtwat's rocks off.....

 :-X That, combined with Snarky's little insight into t$r offices, right *searches desperately in drawer for industrial strength valium*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Kragey on 2008 May 30, 15:55:12
That thong/chaps set/whatever is so. friggin'. DISTURBING.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: strix on 2008 May 31, 07:08:51
I just noticed the presence of the eunuch speedo in those pictures. If this is what gets BeAtwat's rocks off.....

 :-X That, combined with Snarky's little insight into t$r offices, right *searches desperately in drawer for industrial strength valium*

Must be why she like Thomass so much...

And why oh why did I just read "offices" as "orifices"..?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 May 31, 09:46:34
Strix, It's probably the word association between ThomASS and orifice :P

lol



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 May 31, 10:21:59
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo you bastards!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Amazone on 2008 May 31, 12:36:46
the twatty one has always been into goth and france, her sister lives in france, which atwat has always bragged about, she speaks french fluently, and she has always had a large amount of goth/fug/pornqueen sims on her own home website. makes ya wonder if this is where her jealousy of Aikea came from.

from her homepage:

http://hem.bredband.net/mixat/thesims_black.htm
http://hem.bredband.net/mixat/the_sims_english.htm

of course she will take these down when she reads this, however I have saved it.  ;)


How come no-one has commented on this? That first link is HILARIOUS. I was under the impression that this was a mature (lol) woman, yet the first link is something I'd expect from a 12 year old. Gothified self-sim with a cheating husband, and a son with really disturbing Speedos. Really, I laughed. :D

I don't get it, why on earth a person should brag about living in FRANCE? That is just another european country. It's nothing to brag about.
Many europeans do indeed speak french, and english, italien, deutsch and spanish. Since Europe have so many different languages, it's common to choose
a couple of languages to study, or more. I have been to France more than 1 time.  My best friend have lived in France for the last 10 years,
she has family there. *brags - feel damm big about it*  ;D

I think the link is somewhat weird? Is Atwa an adult woman or not? To me it looks like she's very young. Except from beeing a Twat, because she belongs to TSR,
what else is matter with her?







Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 01, 00:42:03
Well, to many, France is considered a major center for art and culture. It's a somewhat silly but pretty common notion that anything French is somehow the most civilized, the most artistic or the most...fancy-schmancy, for lack of a better term. Whether or not that is Atwat's motivation for loving the country, I don't know.

That said, however, I don't think it's that odd to have a deep love for a particular nation. There are plenty of people out there who have never been to Japan, but drool over anything Japanese. A good friend of mine (the infamous S'Mores Girl) adores everything related to The Netherlands. To a less obsessive degree, I personally think it's fun to listen to people who speak with German accents, and I have a deep love for the U.S. Pacific Northwest, where I grew up. ;)

Still, that doesn't give anyone the right to act like an idiot about their interests or to behave in a pompous manner just because they speak a certain language or live in a particular locale.

And as for those links...I have no idea how to respond. That appears to be an indication, to at least a mild degree, of a genuine social or personality disorder, if not something considerably worse. Strangely disturbing...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 June 01, 02:12:54
We need Sherrie to post again the photos of Atwat...she's most definitely a woman at least in her 40s, by all accounts.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Kragey on 2008 June 01, 02:27:15
I just can't get over the fact that this supposedly mature, "wordly" woman is called "Atwat." Literally, "a twat." That kills me.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 01, 02:29:12
Well, that's because we made it into Atwat, precisely for that reason. She called herself "Atwa."

Our version is more accurate. Does anyone remember who started it in the first place?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: RedLove on 2008 June 01, 02:33:25
We need Sherrie to post again the photos of Atwat...she's most definitely a woman at least in her 40s, by all accounts.

Looked to me like she was in her 60s, seriously. :-\


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Kragey on 2008 June 01, 02:43:08
Well, my point is that it sounds too much like "a twat." I wouldn't go around calling myself vage ina; that's just too easy.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 June 01, 02:47:26
Well, that's because we made it into Atwat, precisely for that reason. She called herself "Atwa."

Our version is more accurate. Does anyone remember who started it in the first place?

:::raises hand::::  GUILTY!

I dont' recall the thread where I first used it, but I had used it in staff chat, and kinda on a dare, I changed her folder's name in the booty. Gosh, that had to be a year ago.


Edit: Apparently, the first public useage of "Atwat" occured here:  http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/index.php/topic,192.msg45649.html#msg45649  ...and there were a few other usages of it before I changed the booty folder name in May 2007.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 01, 02:54:10
I suppose that's true, but I don't believe her first language is English. I don't know a whole lot of slang for genitals in, say, Portuguese or Korean and if I were attempting to post in a thread in one of those languages, I could easily end up accidentally calling myself something that sounded very similar to "hairy albino monkey testicles"...but then again, I don't speak any Portuguese or Korean so that might not be the best example.

Ugh, it sounds like I'm defending Atwat! I give, Kragey, I give! ;)

Please, please tell me someone can dig up those photos. I could use a giggle.

And Hec...my love for you grows with each breath of wind in the trees, each irritating post verbally bitch slapped, each sleazy TSR employee brutally insulted...Woe is he who comes between me and my Hec. ;)

Edit: Well, it's good enough that several people can get credit.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Tabby on 2008 June 01, 02:58:16
 On that first link, am I the only one who noticed her son and daughter seem to be making out? She introduces them as her son and daughter, but they are all over each other on the couch. Maybe she meant son in law? Please.  ???


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 01, 03:01:27
If you mean the Black family, those are diff Sims. Her "son" is shown flirting with someone named Janice on the sidewalk, and the couch scene is her daughter and another Sim named Sam. Both of her dark-haired offspring seem to have the hots for redheads, so that's probably where the confusion begins.

Even without the element of incest the weird bondage-esque quasi-goth thing is a little disturbing when presented in this bland, broken manner.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Tabby on 2008 June 01, 03:25:22
 Ok, thats what it is. Sorry. I just spent all freaking day at the fair with my three year old. I think I might die.  ;) They looked very similar to my weary eyes. LOL.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Kragey on 2008 June 01, 03:40:45
Ugh, it sounds like I'm defending Atwat! I give, Kragey, I give! ;)

I have that power. ^_~ But honestly? If I was going to name myself or someone in my family something, and it was meant to sound like an "actual name" (like Barbara or Cheryl) instead of the average forum user's "just words" name (like "Blue Coconut" or "Angel Dust"), I'd check it over a bit. I found out several years after getting my cat that the name I'd given her means something dirty in an African language. T_T

Google imaging "atwa" gets you lots of images of body builders and Near Eastern officials. I LOLed.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 June 01, 04:37:57
I don't know a whole lot of slang for genitals in, say, Portuguese or Korean and if I were attempting to post in a thread in one of those languages, I could easily end up accidentally calling myself something that sounded very similar to "hairy albino monkey testicles"...
I once opened an account for a Mr. Sik On Yu. I'm sure it's a perfectly normal name in Korean, but sounds terrible in English. Granted, that was the man's actual name. Unless Atwa is a diminutive form of Anita (like Masha/Mariya), it doesn't seem like Atwat can use that excuse.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Markus on 2008 June 01, 05:03:48
I vaguely recall Sherrie or somebody discovering that Atwa was a Charles Manson reference.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 01, 05:59:27
I found out several years after getting my cat that the name I'd given her means something dirty in an African language. T_T

See? It's easy to do things like that. Of course, if you were posting on a site that was written primarily in that African language, you probably would do some research before you named yourself that, just to be safe.

My aunt named her cat "Punani" because she confused it with the Hawaiian name "Puanani," which means beautiful flower. Her husband (who is Hawaiian, BTW) told her what it actually meant at Thanksgiving dinner almost a year later.

I vaguely recall Sherrie or somebody discovering that Atwa was a Charles Manson reference.

Apparently it is. The idea behind it is actually kind of cool, but the origin is disturbing. I looked it up on Wikipedia and, assuming that the source is accurate, this is what it means:

Quote
ATWA is an acronym for "Air, Trees, Water, Animals" and "All The Way Alive." It was first termed by Charles Manson in the early 1970s. The name represents the life support system of the Earth. Charles Manson and his associates, most notably Lynette Fromme and Sandra Good, use the term to name the force of life and the opposition to that which destroys the ecological balance of the Earth.

"ATWA" it's also a System of a Down song, a little fact I had forgotten until I read it since the term "ATWA" is never actually used in the song. I really like Serj Tankian.

Oh, and the opening lyrics are rather fitting for our dear TSR slut: "Hey you, see me, pictures crazy." Bwahahahaha!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Renegade on 2008 June 01, 06:50:56
I found out several years after getting my cat that the name I'd given her means something dirty in an African language. T_T

Oh, please tell us!

My aunt named her cat "Punani" because she confused it with the Hawaiian name "Puanani," which means beautiful flower. Her husband (who is Hawaiian, BTW) told her what it actually meant at Thanksgiving dinner almost a year later.

ROFL!! Why did he wait a year before he told her, though? lol

As for Atwat...I thought her real name is Anita?  Am I confused?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 01, 07:08:23
He waited because it was funnier that way.  ;D

And yeah, her real name is Anita. As in the Bart Simpson "Anita Bath" prank call, or perhaps, in this case, Anita Newhobby. Or maybe Anita Talent. Yeah, I think I'm going with that one.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 June 01, 11:15:44
Well, I would not put too much thought into the name Atwa. Names are funny that way, you name something in one language and it is something awful in some other language. For example, in Finland we have this magazine called "A Fan of Cats", i.e. "Kissafani". Mr Smartypants' British friends found it hilarious, but I did not realise what was so funny until they explained it. I still don't go around giggling when I see the mag, since it's just a magazine about cats for me, no matter how rude it is in English.

Also, sometimes even big companies get it wrong. From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Pajero):
Quote
The Mitsubishi Pajero is a sport utility vehicle manufactured by Mitsubishi Motors. It is known as the Mitsubishi Montero in the Americas (except Brazil) and Spain, and as Mitsubishi Shogun in the United Kingdom. It was named after a mountain cat that inhabits the Patagonia plateau region in southern Argentina. However, the name Montero (meaning "mountain warrior") was adopted in Spanish language markets because Pajero is a slang term for "wanker".


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 01, 11:31:16
Not to mention the Chevy Nova. It didn't do well in Spanish-speaking countries, because "no va" means "no go."


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Kragey on 2008 June 01, 12:04:36
I found out several years after getting my cat that the name I'd given her means something dirty in an African language. T_T

Oh, please tell us!

Her name is "Simmis" (pronounced "Sim-me"). We got her from another family when she was still a kitten, and they thought she was a boy and named her "Simba." When we suddenly found out she was a girl, it was a bit late to give her a whole new name, so we just feminized it. Apparently, "Simmis" means "sex slave" or "prostitute" in a certain African language. (Can't remember which one, though.)

Like I said, if I had researched a bit, I'd know that it's a bad name. It's not like I named her after an actual noun or adjective (like Snowball, or Fluffy), I just pulled something out of my ass that sounded "like an actual name" and now I'm stuck with it. =P So I have little sympathies for how "perfectly" Atwa named herself.

Again, it's different if your name is an actual word or name in your language and just happens to mean something bad in another language. Whatever. But if you're just pulling a bunch of stuff out of your butt to make it sound exotic, you deserve what you get. I'll accept the Charles Manson acronym crap, but that doesn't make it any less hilarious to me.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Amazone on 2008 June 01, 12:10:38
arrrrr, 1 of my best friends name is Anita. This is the most used name in Latvia, Finland, Sweden, and Hungary.  It has nothing to do with silly simpson.

 
My cat's name is pusse. Wonder how that is pronouced in english? lol.






Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 01, 12:28:51
Chill, Luna. "Anita" sounds a lot like "I need a" in English, and the Bart Simpson prank call was the first thing that sprang to mind. If you choose to be offended by something that inane, feel free. ::)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 June 01, 15:00:41
Well, that's because we made it into Atwat, precisely for that reason. She called herself "Atwa."

Our version is more accurate. Does anyone remember who started it in the first place?

:::raises hand::::  GUILTY!

I dont' recall the thread where I first used it, but I had used it in staff chat, and kinda on a dare, I changed her folder's name in the booty. Gosh, that had to be a year ago.


Edit: Apparently, the first public useage of "Atwat" occured here:  http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/index.php/topic,192.msg45649.html#msg45649  ...and there were a few other usages of it before I changed the booty folder name in May 2007.

so the first time you called her Atwat was when I was getting beat up for defending that shitty site?!?  :D  Ah, how mis-informed I was back then....and hey, does anyone know why ThomA$$ always thought I was a pirate??  Cause I didn't know about you guys until that crappy weekend at the exchange...I was in that stupor of being a member of TSR.  :-[


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 June 01, 17:20:13
Dina, at least you did see the light! I suppose we have you to thank, then, for the inspriation. ;) Just think -  in just 18 months we've gone from making a crude joke to people thinking that's really her name!

As far as why Thomas thought you were one of us early on, I've no idea. Maybe the fact that you posted here, despite being clearly pro-TSR at the time, was just too much for him? Secret agendas and all that...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 June 02, 10:03:26
We need Sherrie to post again the photos of Atwat...she's most definitely a woman at least in her 40s, by all accounts.


From what I remember she's in her 50's.

(http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3223/blogimages2669rn3.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 June 02, 10:21:51
Kinda shows in that pic how close she and Thomass are.

Jackie Stallone anyboydy?

(http://www.relativesremembered.com/imagestorage/memorialimage/small/4402228680.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: pixelated on 2008 June 02, 10:26:02
Oh god, that's a forced smile if I ever saw one.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 June 02, 10:28:51
Oh god, that's a forced smile if I ever saw one.

Thomass, or Atwat? ;)

Jackie Stallone (I have no idea of who she is, BTW) looks like a bee stung her lower lip.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 June 02, 12:19:09
Sylvester Stallone's Mommy ;]
He was in Rocky.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: pixelated on 2008 June 02, 12:31:29
Oh god, that's a forced smile if I ever saw one.

Thomass, or Atwat? ;)

Well, both look forced, but I was thinking Thomass. Atwat looks more like she's desperately trying to hide that she's crying by laughing instead. As if Thomass was holding a gun to her back and going "Smile for the camera, bitch", and she had to do some "Baaaw-he-he-he-he I'm so HAPPY! Making floodfilled creations is FUN! SUBSCRIBE TO TSR AND YOU TOO CAN BE AS HAPPY AND HARMONIC AS I AM!"

After that, Thomass would put her back in her cage an-.... well, the theory is flawed really, as I don't see why anyone would keep her for advertising your website, especially not going through the trouble of using a gun. Let's just say she's crying of happiness because that's the closest she's ever been to a man (I'm pretty sure he's a man), and leave it at that.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: CaptainChris on 2008 June 02, 12:55:12
Gah! That photo keeps haunting me.

I always assumed her cry/laugh thing was because she's so in love/awe with Thoma$$ that the fact of meeting him was enough to bring her to tears.

Thoma$$' expression is more along the lines of wanting the moment to end, and for Grandma Moses to get away from him. I almost feel sorry for him, then I remember he's a scumsucking whore.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 June 02, 16:34:15
Now THAT'S the worst picture I've seen in this entire thread. :D

I really shouldn't talk because I'm probably even older than Atwa, but I do tend to brush my hair every now and then.



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 June 02, 16:40:55
Thanks. Thanks a hell of a lot. It's not bad enough that I'm as sick as someone that ate from Sam and Ella's diner, but now you have to fucking scare the absolute shit right outta me? You guys are just fuckin cruel, you know that?? I will agree though, that is the fugliest thing ever to appear in this thread and probably the whole site. The only thing that could possibly be worse is a pic of him wearing a Speedo and her wearing a bikini... Talk about two rubber bands around an egg.... Oh God, I think I just grossed myself out...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Amazone on 2008 June 02, 17:19:21
She looks more in the 60's to me. Scandinavien women, well many of them don't look so old in their 50's unless they drink a lot and smoke.
I don't know. I feel kinda mean now, since i don't know the lady.



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Markus on 2008 June 02, 17:49:34
Oh yeah...I'd say she's at least 65.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Renegade on 2008 June 02, 17:57:24
Actually, she supposedly isn't crying in that picture.  When I looked through her blog while reading through this thread, I read that the camera flash is what made her eyes like that.  Do I buy that explanation? No.  It does indeed look as if she is so happy to be with the love of her life; she also looks slightly deranged.  Must be the hair.

As for ThomA$$: to me, he looks as if a giant, splinter-ridden tree stump was shoved up his rear, and he is trying as hard as he can to look pleasant for the shot.  Of course, we all know that this scenario cannot possibly make him feel "pleasant"; rather, it makes him feel quite aroused.  How's that for a mental picture? ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Rose on 2008 June 02, 18:00:16
HAhaha. Oh dear, for a woman that old, she behaves like a total moron with no life experience.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 June 02, 18:19:26
Well, then, I'm not older than she is.  Thank goodness that's settled. :D

ETA:  I usually don't comment negatively on people's appearance, especially people I don't know.  But in this case, I think we do know her.  She's mean and bullies others.  I don't feel particularly guilty bad-mouthing her.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Viking Marta on 2008 June 02, 18:59:13
Well, I don't usually like to comment on people's appearances alone (think, maybe, not comment), because it's ThomA$$, I will say my first thought when I saw him was:

"He seemed so normal," as spoken by an interviewee standing in front of his neighbor's house as the police are digging up bodies in the front yard.

Honestly, that's what I thought--What does that say about me, now? :o


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 June 02, 22:18:36
I don't think she is much older than somewhere around 50 or so.  She definitely looks like she has been riden hard and put up wet.  Way back when, I used to feel a bit sorry for her.  I kind of believed her bullshit where everyone was always picking on her  ::) Yeah, well I learned the hard way why she got the name Atwat, that's for sure.  Now she kind of frightens me, I swear I think that woman borders on the edge of some pyschiatric/personality disorder.  Something just ain't firing correctly in that pee brain of hers...as for Thomas, he's just plain fucked up.  He cares about nothing but himself and he will use and discard those artists on his site to suit his own purposes...he really is just fucked up.  Just like when she was going around making light of and jokes about my medical condition, that asshole was insisting it was a fabricated PM...well whomever fabricated it sure as hell knew an awful lot about me when only a handful of people knew about it. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 June 02, 22:43:11
  Just like when she was going around making light of and jokes about my medical condition, that asshole was insisting it was a fabricated PM...well whomever fabricated it sure as hell knew an awful lot about me when only a handful of people knew about it. 

What?!  I must have missed that as I have had limited internet access.  I am so sorry.  BTW, it is nice to see you here.  We should start a TSR SA refugee area in sharkbait.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Arghyle on 2008 June 02, 23:04:57
She definitely looks like she has been riden hard and put up wet.

I almost spit coffee all over my screen at this.  Totally made my day.   :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 June 03, 01:17:32
ETA:  I usually don't comment negatively on people's appearance, especially people I don't know.  But in this case, I think we do know her.  She's mean and bullies others.  I don't feel particularly guilty bad-mouthing her.

I don't think this is the case of, completely superficially saying "Jesus that woman looks like she's batshit crazy". We all know her to some extent, or at least know the manipulations and bitchery she is capable of. Therefore her ugliness and bitterness comes out and that's probably what we see when we see this creature trying to desperately hold on to her only reason for living: Thoma$$ and TSR.
We pity and despise her, or at least I do. I support humanity and see no humanity in her, just ass kissing and elitist behaviour.

If she is reading this and saying "Oh you don't know me at all! You just see how I treat my enemies! My enemies ..beware my craziness!"
It's just worse. She's a grown woman who needs to chill the fuck out and realise this is just a game. You do not support a community by strangling it, or causing drama between people so she could relish the attention. If she wants to be on TSR's side and make money peddling her shitty meshes, fine. Whatever. We are just "ripping her off", like she is ripping off others. But the way she sees it, she's allowed to. While, we are not.

Uh-Huh.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/deelink/LOLcats/funny-pictures-bored-cat.jpg)

Edited: To included the lol cat :D And to remove a word. I'm generally not this edgy, but my coffee was extra strong today heh. ;)



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 June 03, 01:28:57
  Just like when she was going around making light of and jokes about my medical condition, that asshole was insisting it was a fabricated PM...well whomever fabricated it sure as hell knew an awful lot about me when only a handful of people knew about it. 

What?!  I must have missed that as I have had limited internet access.  I am so sorry.  BTW, it is nice to see you here.  We should start a TSR SA refugee area in sharkbait.

Paleoanth, there is a few of us SA's that left TSR...Earthgoddess, Gayle_AFCB, Daggs and I all left, well Daggs got kicked out and banned cause she called Thomas a Nazi  :D  I had Thomas remove my stuff off and told him to take down my mini site...I was done with the drama of TSR.  Our new dictatorless home is Natural Sims.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: BobbinRobbin on 2008 June 03, 06:35:50
Paleoanth, there is a few of us SA's that left TSR...Earthgoddess, Gayle_AFCB, Daggs and I all left, well Daggs got kicked out and banned cause she called Thomas a Nazi  :D  I had Thomas remove my stuff off and told him to take down my mini site...I was done with the drama of TSR.  Our new dictatorless home is Natural Sims.

And it's a great place....helpful people, no flaming, no attitudes, and best of all....FREE!!!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 03, 07:01:57
Paleoanth, there is a few of us SA's that left TSR...Earthgoddess, Gayle_AFCB, Daggs and I all left, well Daggs got kicked out and banned cause she called Thomas a Nazi  :D  I had Thomas remove my stuff off and told him to take down my mini site...I was done with the drama of TSR.  Our new dictatorless home is Natural Sims.

*cheers*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: coconut on 2008 June 07, 01:48:06
More news on Atwa, she has a lot to say for herself recently. She is saying that she is still quietly being paid on her Atwa creations, ( for the subscribers downloads)  as an FA, even though her status has been "officially" revoked. She also says that in addition, her Beasims account counts alongside in the same way, so she's also earning money from that. Thomas had promised her that he would quietly "fast track" her status to SA, and then to FA,  it wasn't happening fast enough for her, so she enlisted detimgi to fight her corner for the SA promotion. That plan has been put on hold for a few weeks, partially because she told everyone who she really is, however the ones she didn't tell were suspicious anyway, how many new artists at TSR have a minisite straight from the start, Just one!  She also claims to still have power inside TSR,  many think that claim is bullshit from a desperate has-been, others think she's still got some hold over Thomas, indeed, the fact of  him putting TSR and it's MODS/FA's at risk by still having a proven racist, "site killer"  twat and all in all shit stirrer on the payroll, has certainly got tongues wagging within the ranks.

   I have been talking to someone from TSR who tells me they have quite a few PM's and mails from Atwa also containing racist remarks, and general bitchery towards other TSR artists. They are seriously considering releasing them.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 June 07, 02:00:57
WOAH.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Emily on 2008 June 07, 02:03:13
 I have been talking to someone from TSR who tells me they have quite a few PM's and mails from Atwa also containing racist remarks, and general bitchery towards other TSR artists. They are seriously considering releasing them.
Yes, talk them into releasing them!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 June 07, 02:19:41
Oh gosh, the temptaion of writing "Hey Anita" in Beasims's guestbook is killin me!

But blimey at that ^^


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 June 07, 02:22:33
I seriously don't understand why in the world Thomas keeps her around.  All she does is make his money makers/potential money makers unhappy.   Either he is in complete denial, is utterly stupid or needs a CAT scan.

I love it when coconut posts.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Kragey on 2008 June 07, 02:40:29
I'm kind of curious how much an artist makes at TSR, and how much Thoma$$ makes by comparison.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: gelydh on 2008 June 07, 02:48:19
I'm kind of curious how much an artist makes at TSR, and how much Thoma$$ makes by comparison.

Featured Artists supposedly make no more than $300 per month. *goes back to lurking*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Emily on 2008 June 07, 02:51:42
I'm kind of curious how much an artist makes at TSR, and how much Thoma$$ makes by comparison.
Quote
I have been doing some crude calculations based on figures from the TSR site.

Since November 4 2006, Sims2Sisters have had a hair mesh file downloaded 8260 times.

If that number indicates 8260 individual subscribers, and if they have paid for 2 months sub only, in 40 days TSR have raked in at least 73,927 dollars (I am in uk, I don't have dollar sign on my keyboard).

tIIsugas posted this a long time ago!

Edit: To add tIIsugas post, plus I'm stupid.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 June 07, 03:02:39
Featured Artists supposedly make no more than $300 per month. *goes back to lurking*

No! All gelydhs must post MOAR! -  :D




Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 June 07, 03:31:48
I second that! MOAR GEYLDH PLS!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 June 07, 03:46:45
I'm kind of curious how much an artist makes at TSR, and how much Thoma$$ makes by comparison.
Featured Artists supposedly make no more than $300 per month. *goes back to lurking*

But some were making more? How was the ranking system there? Who got more punch power? And BTW.. you are awesome! :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: aikea_guinea on 2008 June 07, 04:14:14
But some were making more? How was the ranking system there? Who got more punch power? And BTW.. you are awesome! :D

I suspect there may have been exceptions to the cap, but in all honesty I don't know.  All I do know is that neither myself nor Gelydh ever got even close to that much, though I know many FAs do.  (Object creators would generally be making more than clothing creators just based on how 'incentives' were figured.)

Just for the record, we were never offered more money if we stayed.  It wouldn't have made a damn bit of difference if we had been, but I thought I'd point that out.   ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AW on 2008 June 07, 04:30:46
I know of one FA who told me that it was around $250/month, really not worth it.  This FA made objects.

Aikea_guinea - you are awesome and much better than TSR. 

I third that Geyldh shoud post moar!   You rock  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Kragey on 2008 June 07, 05:42:47
Am I assuming you'd have to meet a quota to get a certain amount of money? If you have a full time job and no quota, $250 a month wouldn't be bad pocket change. But if you have to get a certain number of CC items, well...that really wouldn't be much at all.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: aikea_guinea on 2008 June 07, 06:18:21
Kragey, I explained how FAs are paid over here (http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/index.php/topic,1808.msg92257.html#msg92257).   :)

You were expected to release X amount of sets a month, I think it was something like one a week.  If you didn't, you ran the risk of being 'demoted,' though it didn't happen very often.  Regardless, I personally still felt a huge pressure to release things as often as I could. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Kragey on 2008 June 07, 06:37:06
Ah, sorry, I missed that post. Yeah, it's really not worth it, then.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 June 07, 12:56:52
She also claims to still have power inside TSR,  many think that claim is bullshit from a desperate has-been, others think she's still got some hold over Thomas, indeed, the fact of  him putting TSR and it's MODS/FA's at risk by still having a proven racist, "site killer"  twat and all in all shit stirrer on the payroll, has certainly got tongues wagging within the ranks.

I have been talking to someone from TSR who tells me they have quite a few PM's and mails from Atwa also containing racist remarks, and general bitchery towards other TSR artists. They are seriously considering releasing them.

You wonder what she does have over him...I know from my experience in the whole Atwat/TSR/ThomAss drama back in April, he blatantly lied to me, he denied half of what she did, and then tried to tell me some stupid bullshit that the PM Coconut posted was all fabricated.  He then told me that if I continued to spread bad will in the community he would wipe TSR clean of me...he point blank told me to shut up, that I could call it a dictatorship or whatever I wanted, but I was to shut up. ::) Whatever ThomAss....oh and ThomAss...FUCK YOU and your Atwat too!!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 June 07, 21:33:32
Featured Artists supposedly make no more than $300 per month. *goes back to lurking*
No! All gelydhs must post MOAR! -  :D

Yes, because all  A_G & G's rock!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: KatrinaHighKick on 2008 June 08, 06:24:48
Wow, talk about a informative thread, I had absolutely no idea all this was going down in TSR's so-called "community". Maybe because I only visit it to see what to download from the booty...  :D

One n00b question though what is the TC fiasco? I saw mentions of it here and there (yes, I searched for it but I guess I phail at searching), but I'd like to know what went down and how atwat was involved in it?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: DaBuschckah on 2008 June 08, 06:27:18
I think the 'TC Fiasco' started in December 2007. I could be wrong.

..Oh yeah, and long-time lurker registered and posting ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 June 08, 13:34:26
I don't recall the story itself - but to start us off, "TC" stands for Texture Challenge. You'll notice at TSR that many people will do recolors in the same texture(s), Atwat among them. Now, can someone else pick up the story?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Requip on 2008 June 08, 14:03:10
Quote
I have been talking to someone from TSR who tells me they have quite a few PM's and mails from Atwa also containing racist remarks, and general bitchery towards other TSR artists. They are seriously considering releasing them.


Oh, YES...please.  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 June 08, 19:43:54
Quote
I have been talking to someone from TSR who tells me they have quite a few PM's and mails from Atwa also containing racist remarks, and general bitchery towards other TSR artists. They are seriously considering releasing them.


Oh, YES...please.  ;D

I second that! That would be awesome!

Wasn't the Texture Challenge (TC) explained in this thread? Or was it in the TSR thread? Sorry, I'm too busy to search for it.
Atwat threw a hissy fit, or something?

Anyways, it was explained short time ago in here somewhere... I think.  :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: DaBuschckah on 2008 June 08, 20:06:02
"Wasn't the Texture Challenge (TC) explained in this thread? Or was it in the TSR thread? Sorry, I'm too busy to search for it.
Atwat threw a hissy fit, or something?

Anyways, it was explained short time ago in here somewhere... I think.  :P"

I just reread this thread, and did a search...Its been mentioned, but never explained.
*Ahem* "The 'TC Fiasco', as seen by DaBusch"
(I could be wrong in places, as I was never a big player in the TC...I came and went. ;)) You all know of the TC thread over at TSR, right? Its full of Mods now, but last year there was little to no mod interference--odd, since we were constantly off-topic ;) Atwat was a constant contributor, unofficially thought of as the 'leader' of the thread (mostly pushed on by her, always telling others what to do >:(). NOTE: most of the TC artists got better over time--not counting atwat. I doubt she ever tried. ANYWAY, in December of last year, the Mods abruptly closed the thread, and pissed a lot of people off. They tried to hide the argument between the TCers and the mods, and deleted the threads where we badmouthed them. I think it was during all this that Daggs(<3) called Thomas a nazi. The mods decided to open the thread again with some new rules and 'new artists'(at first all mods :() in the new year, and after around a month or two the 'originals' left and most went to Natural Sims (there's another site too, but I don't remember what it's called).

Yup. I'm missing a lot though. This is my story of what happened, the actual SA's involved have a lot more to say on the subject. Man, T$R sucks.

EDITED: Because I just royally suck at using this 'interweb' thing


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: DaBuschckah on 2008 June 09, 08:18:35
Thanks Squooshy ;) I got sick of Atwat's antics around TC 50 too.

We also used the Yahoo group to continue our game. Which we still play, only now its by OUR rules. Which are incredibly flexible. :D

Atwat's view of the whole thing was hilarious. Her pitiful rants are still around somewhere. ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 June 09, 10:05:21
I'm gonna be a bigger pain and ask what Riverwillows did?

I was on the sidelines for a little bit (bethbrit) but gave up as I knew something bad was gonna happen.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 June 09, 13:29:38
Atwat's view of the whole thing was hilarious. Her pitiful rants are still around somewhere. ;)

Any chance of digging them up and posting them here?  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: DaBuschckah on 2008 June 09, 15:18:15
Offhand, I remember that there were about a dozen posts from Atwat saying the same thing. Something along the lines of:

"Well...the mods don't like me...they never had...they're all against me and they hate the close relationship I share with Thomas...they're just jealous..."

Or something. What is it with her and her excessive 'dot dot dot -ing' , anyway? :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 June 09, 17:39:55
I am that person Squooshy is referring to about the PM's because she was dragging Natural Sims into the whole mix...The TC fiasco and Riverwillows fiasco aren't even the same fiasco...The yahoo group was created for the TC'ers as Squooshy can attest to...but one didn't have anything to do with the other.  Natural Sims provided a home for the TC'ers who were part of that yahoo group that wanted to have another outlet for their creativity besides TSR.   What I had a problem with, is Squooshy was lumping ALL the people at Natural Sims into one group...one that loved and kissed Atwat's ass...which was far from the truth (God knows I don't like that Twat!!)...a truth that I was merely pointing out....Also, the TC fiasco is not what brought Atwat down...but as we all know it was all a rouse anyway...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 June 09, 17:52:55
Also, I called Thomas a Nazi in April.  Again, that was the best feeling I'd had in a looong time.

Indeed great joy! FTW! ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Titan on 2008 June 09, 21:56:00
April the 10th or 11th, it was around the time of the infamous TSR FA/SA survey they had.  Boy, Daggs you sure had alot to say to Thomass in that survey. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: coconut on 2008 June 09, 23:42:11
  Atwa has a new mission - To clean up TSR, but not for the right reasons. She's taking the smut links from here and has taken it upon herself to take credit for finding them, trying to prove how much TSR needs her, in the bargain she is now spreading it about how little TSR needs kath, blaming kath for the whole TSR smut affair, saying that Kath should no longer approve submissions as she does not pay attention to the PG 13 ruling at all, Atwa is telling everyone she has suggested to Thomas he should let kath go and she will be willing to help him out with submissions. she said kath would be better suited handling submissions to an adult site.  She is also taking the chance to dig the knife into other FA's who she says are producing porn and are bad for the site.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: keirra on 2008 June 09, 23:44:04
I had a feeling Atwat would use this thread to her advantage.  It's good that the shit will be removed, but, sucks that she is taking the credit for finding it.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 June 09, 23:50:13
LOL no surprise here!  ::) Atwat has always blamed kath for everything, according to Atwat it was kaths pregnancy hormones that caused all the problems I had with them, (still trying to figure out how kaths hormones made atwat tell lies about me??) but yea, the old bitch has always been after kaths job.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 June 10, 00:05:29
Oh dear God no, if she was put in charge all the flood filled stuff would totally get put through and any "quality" stuff would get rejected, as Atwat has no taste whatsoever!

And now that we know she looks at this thread, here's a message for her.

UR A TWAT.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: pickles on 2008 June 10, 00:23:54
TOO MUCH INFORMATION!

 :'(


My brains escaped out the window, gotta go catch them now. brb.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 June 10, 00:32:34
I'm glad at least it's now been acknowledged that there's a problem. I hope they deal with the pedo stuff, not just the see thru panties and other smut.

It's a measure of her lack of character that she's using this to enhance her own position.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 June 10, 00:33:53
Atwat, you could use some real therapy. You're in immoral manipulative bitch that needs to be isolated from the rest of humanity before you infect everyone else with your rapid thirst for power. You have all the talent of a drunken monkey that is missing three fourths of its brain and smokes crack in between hits on a bong filled with the purest of hashish.

Thomass, you have all the brain power of an evolved one-celled organism with cretinism. Your morals are below what is considered high standard for a snake during mating season and your management skills make the Enron CEO look like Ghandi. If ever the milk of human kindness existed, you certainly have never tasted it, instead you must have been fed on nothing but pure bile as an infant.

Both of you deserve the other and I truly hope that your wife finds out. And Atwat, I really hope that you are removed from your nursing position, given the lack of empathy and discretion that you display to those that are ill. May it come back to bite you in the ass three fold for now and forever. It would do both of you some good to pull your heads out of your asses and understand the legalities and the moralities of what you're doing.

"May the bird of paradise fly up your nose, may an elephant caress you with his toes, may your wife be plagued with runners in her hose, may the bird of paradise fly up your nose!"  from the Bird of Paradise by Little Jimmy Dickens


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 June 10, 00:39:36
So Atwa is taking credit AGAIN for something she had absolutely no involvement in, does she think other TSR members don't read this?
What a deluded sad pathetic viper.
She is going for the Thomas dollar considering he can't read, or won't read since he has his head shoved up his ass.
Everything he reads must be second-handed given to him, because if he is reading this forum, and get misinformation from that bag of shit, why the fuck is he keeping her on?
Surely that monkey love wasn't THAT sinful, call it a pity fuck Thomas, bite the bullet and get rid of her. And at the same time .. uh...DIE.



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 June 10, 01:01:36
LOL Paden, feeling better now?
I think it's great that she reads this forum. Maybe seeing all these messages will make her crawl into a little ball and cry, maybe more.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 June 10, 01:11:11

Oh, Atwat... I know you're reading this.... I think I'll just tell Thomass's wife the two of you made wild monkey love in his bedroom when wifey wasn't home - so after she finds out, you won't have anything to hold over Thomass' head and we can finally get rid of your sorry forever fugly ass...  *Raises glass in toast*  TO THE DESTRUCTION OF FUGLINESS EVERYWHERE-- TO THE DESTRUCTION OF ATWAT.


Oh, and just so y'all know, my opinions are mine alone and do not represent those of my affiliates at Natural Sims.  well... maybe a little.

EWWW....my head is hurting now from those horrid images going through it  :'(  blech yuck ick ick ick 


Paden, if  you were a man I would be in love with  you! Well said!  the two of them deserve each other for sure!

Deelink, oh she knows that people read here, but the 2 of them deny, lie and manipulate any truth there is...they just pathetically push it back to this site as being all vile lies...they would never do these things to people....they would never say these things... ::)  They all read this forum over there...I know that when I was getting my ass kicked over here last year (when I was an unfortunate sheeple) I got pm's from quite a few of them giving me the atta-girl...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: strix on 2008 June 10, 01:23:01
Hell, Paden doesn't have to be a man. I luvs her, even more when she rants! ranting and mocking; two of my greatest loves :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 June 10, 01:45:04
true I can love her and not be 'in' love with her  :D

paden, I love you! lol


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 June 10, 01:56:14
  Atwa has a new mission - To clean up TSR, but not for the right reasons. She's taking the smut links from here and has taken it upon herself to take credit for finding them, trying to prove how much TSR needs her, in the bargain she is now spreading it about how little TSR needs kath, blaming kath for the whole TSR smut affair, saying that Kath should no longer approve submissions as she does not pay attention to the PG 13 ruling at all, Atwa is telling everyone she has suggested to Thomas he should let kath go and she will be willing to help him out with submissions. she said kath would be better suited handling submissions to an adult site.  She is also taking the chance to dig the knife into other FA's who she says are producing porn and are bad for the site.

She can try to take credit all she wants - the record is here, complete with timestamps.  Intersting though, about the FA portion of this....I can't wait to see how THAT turns out. (Popcorn anyone?)

Coconut, to be clear, which "Kath" are you speaking of? There are several Kathys and Kaths who are known in the community.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 June 10, 02:02:47
I think she is referring to Kath who is the submissions person at TSR.  It is her job to approve all nonFA/SA submissions.   


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AW on 2008 June 10, 02:05:57
Paden...you already know how much I love you...that was classic.  ;D

Coconut  :-* - I have special rum just for you  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Emily on 2008 June 10, 04:27:24
ewww, really don't want those mental images of atwat and thomas. bleh.

Paden,  ;D loved it, love you. That was great


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 June 10, 05:13:50

What Riverwillows did was say some things, in confidence with other members of the Yahoo Group, and someone within the Yahoo Group repeated it outside of the group.  What was said is irrelevant.  The problem was that someone shared what was said, when all members had agreed that things said there were to be kept strictly between the members.  Thus, those not actively participating in the group discussions were removed from the member list.  The removals had nothing to do with Atwa - the removals were of people not active in the group since the summer.


Hi. I decided to come out of the my little corner of lurking in the hold of the ship, and say hi. First of all, I wish to state for the sole benefit of those at TSR who believe otherwise, I am NOT a pirate.  I don't plan to be a regular contributor, tho I do find this site and it's info intriguing.

I do believe, however, that everyone has a right to their opnion. Your site has a right to exist and what you do, is not for me or anyone else to judge. If  people don't approve of what you do, then they should stay away. The internet is a free place. If you don't like certain parts of it, then stay away from them. It's not like you are advocating violence or actual harm to anyone. To quote Voltaire: “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”. To that effect, TSR also has a right to exist and do what they do. It's all up to Karma in the end, really.

Now, that said, I wish to say that RedHeadRose hit it on the nose. The "Riverwillows Fiasco", as you call it (hey, I'm famous!) had nothing to do with the TC or Atwa. To summarize, I was jumped by JSF (Judy) for using elements on a wall I had done, that she said were "hers". She sent me a rather arrogant pm on TSR. I replied that I had found that exact element on the web, and even sent the exact link so she could see it. She wrote back, not an apology, but basically saying, Well, ok, but don't let it happen again. Which made me mad. I was already (regrettably) involved in the TC fiasco, and still smarting from the emotional upheaval THAT caused, and I vented to what had been established as a safe place to rant and vent and get things off your chest - the Yahoo group. Well, someone there decided to copy and paste what I said and sent it to Judy. It was THAT breach of confidence that caused us to break up the Yahoo group, and migrate to Natural Sims, because we had no idea who the 'rat' was, and all future opinions were now at risk of being exploited. The removals were part of a general cleanup, and happened coincendently at the same time, (actually, it had started a few days before the "incident") but had nothing to do with it. We just cleared out people who had not posted in a long while, and had been considered "gone".

I will say now, that I didn't mean what I said, I was mad and already stressed out, and just needed to vent. I am really sorry it hurt Judy. I have nothing against her.

I will say, at the risk of angering certain other people, that as far as Anita being disliked by many now who were her supporters before, is that she started making statements on private forums of TSR, that certain people were this informer/pirate, or that informer/pirate, and just going out of control with her opinions and accusations about these people.  It got back to those people, who realized what a self serving backstabber she really was, and decided not to have anything more to do with her. She then tried to secretly infiltrate the group these people were on, and got caught. That was the nail in her coffin. She continues to make wild accusations about these people, and they are baseless, and untrue, but there are some who apparently believe her enough to keep the bad feelings going. In my opinion, she truly is a nasty piece of work. But hey, Karma will tell in the end. I just hope I'm far away when it does...lol.

I still contribute to TSR, however, any mesh I recolor is free, I will no longer link to/use any pay meshes.

I do not know who Coconut is, and I cannot confirm/deny stuff she says, as I am not privvy to the forums she is, but she seems to be well placed, and I have heard stuff she has stated confirmed by others. And Squooshy, I have no idea who you are either, but I'm not sure why you dislike me...maybe I ticked you off somehow, maybe I made a careless statement, and unknowingly caused your animosity, I have no idea. I really wish you'd come out to me privately, and confront me, get it out in the open, and see if we can't maybe fix this apparent rift. Whatever it was, I'm sure we can act like responsible adults and come to an agreement. Nurtured grievences are just not healthy. There is enough childish behavior as it is flying around this community, it doesn't serve any beneficial purpose.

That is all I have to say. I appreciate your letting me post, and wish everyone here well in life and simming.

 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 June 10, 05:38:34
I just wanted to say thank you, River, for being willing to come here and tell your side of the story. Too many times what people know is ONLY shared through second/third/fourth hand knowledge, so any time we get it from the source, it is a wonderful thing.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 June 10, 05:53:06
Thank you, Hecubus.

We all are human, and tend to go with gut reactions to most of what life deals us. This is natural. But, it can also generate bad feelings and upheaval. I myself have been very guilty of this, too!!  ::)



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Saraswati on 2008 June 10, 07:22:27
Paden, that last rant was a masterpeice.. ;D

River thank you so much for coming and adding your version so calmly.. it was wonderful.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: strix on 2008 June 10, 07:53:16
Thankyou for your first-hand post, River. Stories always have many sides, and it's always wisest to hear as many of them as possible before reachin any conclusions. Thankyou for taking the time to share your side with everyone.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 June 10, 07:56:44
Lol....thanks again.  ;D

I just hope I still have an account at TSR after this.... ::)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 June 10, 08:06:16
Lol....thanks again.  ;D

I just hope I still have an account at TSR after this.... ::)

Thank you for posting your side of things, River, it was very enlightening.

Unfortunately, if you post here, you might get banned from TSR even though you stated at the beginning that you're not a pirate. It's been known to happen before.  :-\


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 June 10, 11:14:45
  Atwa has a new mission - To clean up TSR, but not for the right reasons. She's taking the smut links from here and has taken it upon herself to take credit for finding them, trying to prove how much TSR needs her, in the bargain she is now spreading it about how little TSR needs kath, blaming kath for the whole TSR smut affair, saying that Kath should no longer approve submissions as she does not pay attention to the PG 13 ruling at all, Atwa is telling everyone she has suggested to Thomas he should let kath go and she will be willing to help him out with submissions. she said kath would be better suited handling submissions to an adult site.  She is also taking the chance to dig the knife into other FA's who she says are producing porn and are bad for the site.

She can try to take credit all she wants - the record is here, complete with timestamps.  Intersting though, about the FA portion of this....I can't wait to see how THAT turns out. (Popcorn anyone?)

Heh yes. I do not really see the long term advantage for her to pretend she discovered all the smut and take credit: the thead is here, and you can see from the times of the posts that it was written before she er 'found' it all at TSR. It means she will cause further fights within the FA group, cause conflict within the staff, and at Kath - if Thomas did get rid of her and replace her with Atwa, then there is just going to be a lot more ugly stuff approved lol..and am sure she will be unreliable with it, people will get upset the submissions are taking longer, she will bitch some more, more fights with creators, etc.

Atwa really does seem to be a very efficient idiot.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: MissBlondie on 2008 June 10, 16:06:16
if Thomas did get rid of her and replace her with Atwa, then there is just going to be a lot more ugly stuff approved lol..and am sure she will be unreliable with it, people will get upset the submissions are taking longer, she will bitch some more, more fights with creators, etc.

Atwa really does seem to be a very efficient idiot.

Yeah, it will be Atwat PG 13 approved ugl stuff. Isn't worth all the wait in the world ?  ::)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: celligirl on 2008 June 10, 16:19:07
It just amazes me that there's so much politics involved in a community devoted to a game. Lord Almighty, it's better than a soap opera. :) I thought some of my fandoms were the worst in that regard, but now I know differently. ;)

That said, I can't really say that I have anything against Atwa; I don't know her and haven't been involved in the community long enough to have been burned by anything associated with her or even to have had contact with her. I just got the game in March, after all. :) But if all that y'all are saying is true, then I really don't think she deserves any pity. I think she does need help, though. It seems like this game and its community are her life and that's just...well, sad.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 June 10, 16:27:52
That settles it, all women are evil vile bitches!!!  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Quinctia on 2008 June 10, 17:25:45
I have to disagree too. River always makes herself out to be the victim. I don't care if jsf is from TSR and a FA. This is just plain nasty.

Nasty how?  Unless those posts are a complete lie, and the OP of them hadn't been accused of something, then it's just the plain ugly truth.

If someone was accusing me of stealing textures they say they made, when I knew I'd used them from an actual source online, I'd definitely start checking out the rest of their shit--if only to protect myself from further accusations.  If it's mean to point that sort of shit out, then perhaps it's a lesson to take a deep breath and deliberate awhile before accusing someone of being a thief.

Those posts don't make River look bad, you know.

Now if you had shared the apology, I could perhaps think River's story was a little over-the-top, but you just produced proof that River had gotten upset at being accused of stealing.  :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 June 10, 17:27:02
Well, I will not deny I wrote those pms, because I did. As I had mentioned before, I was under immense stress and going thru the very emotional TC fiasco. I felt insulted and vented in what I thought was a private forum. Can ANY  of you say you have not done that in some way? I think not. I do regret in letting my emotions take over like that tho. But, I am only human.

This "No-Body" person is most likely the person who copied the pms, and sent them to Judy, along with other rants by others about Anita, and TSR. To me, that is the most horrible violation I can think of. It wasn't just me that it targeted. It was all the others on the group who got hurt,  and Judy got hurt too.  

No-Body, YOU are the nasty one. You obviously feel the need to bring others down, and to cause trouble. It's sad, really. What did you hope to accomplish by posting those?

Anyway, I will not reply again. I have said my piece, I've explaned my own point of view, and if No-Body/Anita Jr wants to rag on me, go ahead. The very fact she/he has those private pms, and posted them here, only proves my previous point. Get some help, hon.

Again, may you all have a good life, and happy simming.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AW on 2008 June 10, 17:42:24
I'm with Quinctia on this.   If you believe that you are in a private forum where you can freely express yourself, you are just blowing off steam and getting out the frustration that you feel. (I speak from experience  :P).  However, I don't think River was wrong to be frustrated and she did indicate that there were other stresses adding to this as well.   So, I choose to giver her the benefit of the doubt.  It took guts to post that here, especially when she didn't have to explain herself at all.

Thanks, River, for your posts.   I give you 150 proof rum in a pretty glass with an umbrella  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 June 10, 17:48:20
Eh, no-body probably is atwat.  You know she loves watching this thread because it's all about her.  She's just so pathetic she's not worth feeling anything over.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 June 10, 18:00:29
MissA, that must be it. We should quickly evacuate the forum & call an exterminator ;D
I agree with Armywife & Quinctia. I have to add that after Thoma$$ and Atwat getting laid, soap operas sucks compared to TSR. Gosh. TSR is hellish.

I couldn't find the popcorn macro, so here's a substitute:
(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9536/fightingjerryspringercaqm8.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AW on 2008 June 10, 18:05:32
Heh, Dr. House - I so stole that macro  :-*

What cracked me up after I posted and started thinking about it, THIS started over someone getting mad about pixelated wallpaper patterns and making accusations over something they didn't create to begin with.  And silly me, I'm just worried about paying $4.00/gallon for gas.  ::)

ETA:  Whose turn is it to make the popcorn? 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: TimeStop on 2008 June 10, 18:21:18
I have to disagree too. River always makes herself out to be the victim. I don't care if jsf is from TSR and a FA. This is just plain nasty.
If someone was accusing me of stealing textures they say they made, when I knew I'd used them from an actual source online, I'd definitely start checking out the rest of their shit--if only to protect myself from further accusations.  If it's mean to point that sort of shit out, then perhaps it's a lesson to take a deep breath and deliberate awhile before accusing someone of being a thief.

I agree with this, and have been in similar places before. I also agree that those posts don't actually make River look bad.

And also concur that this is way better than a soap opera. Days of our Lives better watch out  ;) And at the same time, as armywife pointed out in her way, it's just as trivial as one.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 June 10, 18:33:06
Lord knows that I too, have said things in private that I probably shouldn't have and they made quite the sensation when someone posted the bloody things for God and His monkey to see, so I can see why River would be upset. I can understand why she would vent about being accused of stealing things that are equally available to everyone on the net, too. She doesn't look bad, not even close. As for who this No-Body is, they live up to their name, obviously. Hey, we've had Thomass here so it probably is his trained Howler monkey named Atwat.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zillah on 2008 June 10, 19:16:45
I vote that it's Atwat. Looking back on the TC fiasco, now I can see how much of it was orchestrated and manipulated by her- granted the mods were asses- but Atwa made sure feelings stayed high and encouraged or even created misunderstandings behind the scenes - it didn't have to happen the way it did.
z


-edited for shitty spelling-


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 June 10, 19:23:07
You almost get the sense that she's not calm unless there's chaos around her - I'm  dealing with a personality like that elsewhere right now. It's like she gets twitchy if there isn't some drama, and she will stir the shit if necessary.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AW on 2008 June 10, 19:36:58
So, Hec, are you saying she's a twitchy twat?  :P   Sorry - just couldn't help myself.  :D

Paden, what is up with you and all these monkeys?  Are you hinting for your birthday present?  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 June 10, 20:23:16
umph, if someone wants to pm me the IP address I can tell you if No_body  is Atwat....


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Lirael on 2008 June 10, 20:54:56
Now, that said, I wish to say that RedHeadRose hit it on the nose. ...... She wrote back, not an apology, but basically saying, Well, ok, but don't let it happen again.

I am going to disagree with you here, River.  You sent her links to the sites you got your stuff from and she did apologize and quite nicely, if I remember correctly.  You posted her PM in the Yahoo Group. 

I have to disagree too. River always makes herself out to be the victim. I don't care if jsf is from TSR and a FA. This is just plain nasty.

*not nasty at all PM's*


Are you serious? you think these are nasty? No_Body do you live under a rock?
If I were in any way talented enough to create wallpapers, and someone accused me of stealing them I would have had a lot more to say about it than that, and it wouldnt have been half as nice either.
I dont see how these make River look bad at all, upset yes, angry for sure, but bad? nope.

ok I'm done, I'll go back to lurking now  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 June 10, 21:18:57
People with the atwa type personality are energy vampires.  They need to constantly have drama going on in their lives to drain others of their time, resources, and physical/mental energies.  They feel they are the victims in every situation and twist reality to justify their actions and feelings.  You'll hear them complain that they hate the spotlight and the drama but they always know just what to say to start it up again as it dies down.  They have hordes of multiple accounts to play the game and talk shit about their friends behind their backs.  Having public falling out with friends is common and fairly often.

In an interesting twist to this type of personality, perhaps to relieve some of the guilt for being so horrible, they tend to be active members of a community.  They churn out creative content in mass loads and appear to be online almost all day.  They tend to appoint themselves as leaders and overload themselves with responsibility.  They are helpful and appear to almost be too sweet/too nice, which helps them because people (the sheeple/minions) that do not know better will defend them.  What the sheeple don't know is when you finally do see the vicious streak, it's already too late.  You are in their sights and you cannot stop the assault.

Unfortunately, I have met and befriended a few of these people and they are just train wrecks.. it never ends.  Only way to not get involved in what they do is to cut them completely out of your life.. and that includes having to ban them from all your livejournals/emails/im accounts/etc because they will harass you!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 June 10, 21:20:11
The oompa-loompas at TSR know darn well that Atwa didn't initiate the anti-smut thing.  They know we did, and I for one know they've seen our evidence.  If Atwa is claiming credit for that, not only is she a hypocrite but will obviously do ANYTHING--despite all evidence to contradict her--to manipulate the facts. 

And I agree that River doesn't come off badly in those pm's at all.  Judy has a huge chip on her shoulder.  The problem isn't with River.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 June 10, 22:02:36
Now, that said, I wish to say that RedHeadRose hit it on the nose. ...... She wrote back, not an apology, but basically saying, Well, ok, but don't let it happen again.

I am going to disagree with you here, River.  You sent her links to the sites you got your stuff from and she did apologize and quite nicely, if I remember correctly.  You posted her PM in the Yahoo Group. 

I have to disagree too. River always makes herself out to be the victim. I don't care if jsf is from TSR and a FA. This is just plain nasty.

*not nasty at all PM's*


Are you serious? you think these are nasty? No_Body do you live under a rock?
No shit. And I'm sorry, but wallpapers? Wallpapers? Really? Of all the things to get all paranoid and accuse people of stealing...I don't get it.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: strix on 2008 June 10, 22:03:27
River doesn't come off badly at all. Cranky and upset, sure, but who the hell wouldn't be after being accused of thievery when all the evidence suggests otherwise? If it were me, I'd have been crying tears of anger and frustration over it. River had a supposedly private forum in which to vent, and rightly so. Whoever "No-Body" is is the one who is the troublemaker, trying to stir up a hornet's nest. Well baby, you picked the wrong nest to poke with sticks. That shows a lot of what makes up your character, and it's not really impressive  ::)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: gayle_afcb on 2008 June 10, 23:13:29
River doesn't come off badly at all. Cranky and upset, sure, but who the hell wouldn't be after being accused of thievery when all the evidence suggests otherwise? If it were me, I'd have been crying tears of anger and frustration over it. River had a supposedly private forum in which to vent, and rightly so. Whoever "No-Body" is is the one who is the troublemaker, trying to stir up a hornet's nest. Well baby, you picked the wrong nest to poke with sticks. That shows a lot of what makes up your character, and it's not really impressive  ::)

Thank you for finding the words I have been trying to find for the last couple of hours  :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 June 10, 23:16:02
no_body is obviously the latest incarnation of nohead - the pain in our backsides from last year. 

And in order to make Riverwillows look bad, you'd have to show the sweet as a little pie PM from jsf.  Not to mention that that PM sounds non - existent.  If they both got the moulding/whatever off the internet - why would you pm someone with !!ZOMG STEALING!! if you didn't paint every single skerrick?  That tells me that jsf comes off as the big man in this situation and forgot that she didn't actually do the right thing.

The only way that makes riverwillows look bad is that she's going on about karma in a couple of posts here, but is certainly generating bad karma with the private posts - but all people who mention karma do that, so no big surprise - tis the way of the world.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 June 10, 23:51:35
If I had been accused of stealing, you can bet I would have been less civilised than that. I personally agree with Calalily, that without the original or subsequent PM's in regards to the thievery by JSF, the PM's posted by River are not detrimental at all. They just show someone being fraustrated.

*munches popcorn* DoW, I am glad you clarified that TSR does know, that it is the effort of this board that TSR's smuttiness was exposed, and that once again Atwat is also exposed as being the "energy vampiric drama queen" that she is. The confusing is... if the sheep at TSR KNOW that, why are they still allowing Atwat to fester within TSR's walls? Is it still pity?

I am also baffled like Zaza.. drama over wallpaper? pppfffft. Okay.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 June 10, 23:53:44
AW, I got the monkey thing from the child playing with his collection of stuffed monkeys, it was so cute. He'd have a mommy and daddy and baby, and sit there rocking the baby and talking to it, then he'd have the parents smooch and then he'd hold them all. It was something I wish that I had a cam corder to get for evidence later on to blackmail him with in front of his girlfriend...

Markus and I were discussing that last year we had no-head. Now, we have no-body. Anyone seeing the tie-in? What's next? No-BRAIN?! The way they carry on, it's certainly possible.

Oh, and just for you, cala: My karma ran over my dogma and dragged it down the road five miles.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: ValancySterling on 2008 June 10, 23:54:16
People with the atwa type personality are energy vampires.  They need to constantly have drama going on in their lives to drain others of their time, resources, and physical/mental energies.  They feel they are the victims in every situation and twist reality to justify their actions and feelings.  You'll hear them complain that they hate the spotlight and the drama but they always know just what to say to start it up again as it dies down.  They have hordes of multiple accounts to play the game and talk shit about their friends behind their backs.  Having public falling out with friends is common and fairly often.

In an interesting twist to this type of personality, perhaps to relieve some of the guilt for being so horrible, they tend to be active members of a community.  They churn out creative content in mass loads and appear to be online almost all day.  They tend to appoint themselves as leaders and overload themselves with responsibility.  They are helpful and appear to almost be too sweet/too nice, which helps them because people (the sheeple/minions) that do not know better will defend them.  What the sheeple don't know is when you finally do see the vicious streak, it's already too late.  You are in their sights and you cannot stop the assault.

Unfortunately, I have met and befriended a few of these people and they are just train wrecks.. it never ends.  Only way to not get involved in what they do is to cut them completely out of your life.. and that includes having to ban them from all your livejournals/emails/im accounts/etc because they will harass you!

Agreed...Atwat reminds me of the infamous Elitemaiden (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Elitemaiden) from WoW.  Atwat needs her own entry at the ED

Pass the popcorn plz!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: DaBuschckah on 2008 June 11, 00:00:39

What cracked me up after I posted and started thinking about it, THIS started over someone getting mad about pixelated wallpaper patterns and making accusations over something they didn't create to begin with.  And silly me, I'm just worried about paying $4.00/gallon for gas.  ::)

It is silly how big avalanches can happen over silly little pebbles. :D

And you are so lucky. I want 4 dollar gas...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 June 11, 00:48:28
People with the atwa type personality are energy vampires.  They need to constantly have drama going on in their lives to drain others of their time, resources, and physical/mental energies.  They feel they are the victims in every situation and twist reality to justify their actions and feelings.  You'll hear them complain that they hate the spotlight and the drama but they always know just what to say to start it up again as it dies down.  They have hordes of multiple accounts to play the game and talk shit about their friends behind their backs.  Having public falling out with friends is common and fairly often.

In an interesting twist to this type of personality, perhaps to relieve some of the guilt for being so horrible, they tend to be active members of a community.  They churn out creative content in mass loads and appear to be online almost all day.  They tend to appoint themselves as leaders and overload themselves with responsibility.  They are helpful and appear to almost be too sweet/too nice, which helps them because people (the sheeple/minions) that do not know better will defend them.  What the sheeple don't know is when you finally do see the vicious streak, it's already too late.  You are in their sights and you cannot stop the assault.

Unfortunately, I have met and befriended a few of these people and they are just train wrecks.. it never ends.  Only way to not get involved in what they do is to cut them completely out of your life.. and that includes having to ban them from all your livejournals/emails/im accounts/etc because they will harass you!

Damn. That was really insightful, missangelica. Profile much?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 June 11, 01:06:19
Agreed...Atwat reminds me of the infamous Elitemaiden (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Elitemaiden) from WoW.  Atwat needs her own entry at the ED

Oh wow, Atwa would make a great addition to ED!  'cause really, she's put so much effort into all this crazy that it should be preserved.

energy vampires

Damn. That was really insightful, missangelica. Profile much?

I wanted to be a profiler but I'm too squeamish for the worst of humanity and too empathic for it to not effect me outside of work.  I don't know of profilers that work outside of murder stuff.. but maybe there are?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 June 11, 01:33:24
I wanted to be a profiler but I'm too squeamish for the worst of humanity and too empathic for it to not effect me outside of work.  I don't know of profilers that work outside of murder stuff.. but maybe there are?

Theoretical criminology - in lots of areas.  Still involves crime scene photos though, and if you want to make a living, you have to do murder.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: TimeStop on 2008 June 11, 02:33:50
I wanted to be a profiler but I'm too squeamish for the worst of humanity and too empathic for it to not effect me outside of work.  I don't know of profilers that work outside of murder stuff.. but maybe there are?

Theoretical criminology - in lots of areas.  Still involves crime scene photos though, and if you want to make a living, you have to do murder.

But it's the kind of thing you could do as an on-the-side thing isn't it? I really don't know much about it at all, but it sounds like a cool thing to do if you can stomache it


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 June 11, 03:15:05
I've always been facinated by crime and crime investigation, but I know I don't have a stomach for actual crime scene photos. I get really upset, I'm such a baby  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 June 11, 03:17:15
I wanted to be a profiler but I'm too squeamish for the worst of humanity and too empathic for it to not effect me outside of work.  I don't know of profilers that work outside of murder stuff.. but maybe there are?

Theoretical criminology - in lots of areas.  Still involves crime scene photos though, and if you want to make a living, you have to do murder.

Yeah.. don't think I could do it.   :-\


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 June 11, 03:39:43
missangelica has 'profiled' atwat perfectly, especially the creating of drama part that's spot on. kudos to you  ;D

Ok lets all profile atwat based on a mix of what we know and what we can speculate for the LOLS

She loves drama, and attention. when there is drama about her, she thrives off it, mailing, Pming and messaging the hell out of anyone who is willing to listen to her self obsessed ramblings. when there is no drama she will create it, and will always manage to somehow be the center of attention even if the drama is not about her. she will always try to lead everything, I'm betting that after 'someone' (obviously atwat) leaked Rivers private posts, atwat then tried to inject herself into the investigation and lead the hunt for the mole? and named just about everyone in the group other than herself? she would have been thriving on the attention and would have felt super important as she played out her fantasy of the popular and clever investigator who everyone adores, while also feeling elated by the fact that in her eyes she has outsmarted everyone because she's such a good 007 double agent.

The thing that drives Atwat is fantasy, in her eyes she is a great creator, stealthy double agent, and investigator as well as a force to be reckoned with to all who cross her, also she's a sexy older woman in a torrid affair with a young and rich business man, and a born leader. All straight out of a story book. In reality nothing could be further from the truth, She lives alone, has no form of relationship with anyone, she does not get along with her neighbours or co workers and finds it difficult to relate to others. she is in a low end unglamorous job and works separate from the other staff, possibly as a hospital admin in a tiny cupboard converted into an office. alone in her cupboard office she retreats into her fantasy world to escape the fact she is a 'nobody'. She invents a more exciting job, and sets about trying to crawl and back stab her way to the top, which is something she could only dream of in real life. A crappy website is her substitute for a real life. In her mind she is important, and useful and adored by many, so much so, she has to keep reminding everyone about it. She dreams that everyone is jealous of her and her popularity, it's her only way of coping with the real reason she's alone.

All that was missing in her fantasy was a lover, enter Tomass, I'm sure everyone that knows her has heard the same old story about Thomas' wife catching them in the bedroom, they went in to find the cat and something nearly happened, they looked at each other, leaned closer and........his wife, annie( I think her name was) unexpectedly walked in, nothing happened but if she had not have walked in.... [insert random innuendo... and some dots....] when reading this, it never came accross as a factual event, it read more along the lines of a mills and boon romance novel, she was relaying her fantasy, his wife being butt ugly was also part of her dream. his wife is possibly attractive (but short sighted) which has made atwat jealous enough to want to publically demean her, In atwats eyes she is beautiful sexually active older woman, in reality she's a lonely 50+ virgin with a face only a mother with failing eyesight could love. the story leaking out was no accident, she told the world, she wanted everyone to speculate on an affair to give her some validity so she could write it up as a true part of her life and revel in the attention of being the 'bosses mistress' and someone important.

Atwat is such a faliure in real life she's living a second life though TSR, where she can be whatever she dreams of, a site so full of bullshit they wouldn't notice an extra smell. TSR know perfectly well the pirates discovered the smut, but in atwats fantasy they don't and she's a hero. We should pity her because our partners, children, friends and family don't disappear the second we turn off our computers. Atwats whole life disappears when she turns off hers, which is why she tries to spend every waking moment on it, to keep her dream alive.



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: KatrinaHighKick on 2008 June 11, 03:49:36
*snip* Now THAT'S how you nail someone *snip*


I've never been involved in any TSR drama (I'm allergic to sheeple) but from all I've seen and heard, this profiling is spot on! *praises*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 June 11, 03:53:38
Sherrie, that was full of lulz, and incredibly spot-on.

I've always said she was to be pitied, hating her is just validation to her. So who cares? Ignoring her is the worst thing you can do to her. So let's do it!  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 June 11, 04:28:39
I wanted to be a profiler but I'm too squeamish for the worst of humanity and too empathic for it to not effect me outside of work.  I don't know of profilers that work outside of murder stuff.. but maybe there are?

Theoretical criminology - in lots of areas.  Still involves crime scene photos though, and if you want to make a living, you have to do murder.

But it's the kind of thing you could do as an on-the-side thing isn't it? I really don't know much about it at all, but it sounds like a cool thing to do if you can stomache it

It's usually involved in the study of crime, and particularly in research.  I have to do some profiling for my criminology thesis.  ;D

Pure profiling - as your only job - would be in the big areas like terrorism, for government agencies etc.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 June 11, 18:29:23
Ok lets all profile atwat based on a mix of what we know and what we can speculate for the LOLS

atwat; The Early Years?

It's obvious from her furniture meshing that atwat was raised in an environment that didn't actually include any furniture. This, combined with her intense interest in textures, causes me to believe that she may have been raised by furniture hating faux hippies who created offbeat textiles. They probably weren't very good at it. Unable to make money at their trade, they resorted to sending young atwat down to the village square to panhandle. Her ability to squeeze money out of strangers would one day serve her well.

At school, entrusted with the position of head hall monitor, atwat immediately restructured the organization into one based on the Soviet KGB. A network of spies was developed, informants were rewarded and enemies crushed. After school, atwat would work for hours in front of a blackboard. There, she charted, mapped and graphed the activities of her fellow classmates and their parents, as well as her teachers and their spouses. Not surprisingly, all the lines and arrows on the blackboard led back to her.

After her first sexual encounter (with another human being) turned out disastrously, Atwat, decided that sex (with another human being) was over-rated and she would have to find a new way to amuse herself. She needed a hobby.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 June 11, 19:14:52
That, snarky my friend, is a masterpiece!  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 June 11, 20:27:45
atwat; The Early Years?

<snip>


WIN!  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Amazone on 2008 June 11, 20:49:09
Yeah well, where is her paysets from TSR? I can't find her in the booty. Why not?



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 June 11, 20:53:23
You seriously need to change your name back, Amazone..


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Amazone on 2008 June 11, 21:51:26
You seriously need to change your name back, Amazone..

Lol, why? Luna means moon. Not lunatic :-p Moon is the female power, ying. :)

But i have no time to scan 40 pages, i don't really care about Atwat, i do care for destroying TSR. Not a female who probably need medication.
She is a very selfdestructive woman as i see her. So she has clearly problems with her self, need for controlling other people, spying on them, lying
about her profession etc.. She is maybe bipolar and they need help. I know people like her, believe me i do. To me she is just another sick (ill) person
who need help.

I was asking because i am a bit curious, since i do not know too much about TSR, their FAs or SAs.





Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 June 11, 22:07:19
Check under "Anita", "nitnit" or "Atwa", you may find it there, dunno since I don't look for her shit, I avoid it like I do dog bombs in a front yard...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: chemistrycourtney on 2008 June 11, 22:12:27
Since her stuff isn't pay, she isn't in the booty. 

http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/atwa/


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Azaya on 2008 June 11, 22:17:32
I'm sorry, I have to ask.. why would you want something of Atwat's?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Amazone on 2008 June 11, 22:25:16
Check under "Anita", "nitnit" or "Atwa", you may find it there, dunno since I don't look for her shit, I avoid it like I do dog bombs in a front yard...

Okay, thanks! Dog bombs, oh my.

I'm sorry, I have to ask.. why would you want something of Atwat's?

I am not interested in having her stuff, i am interested in seeing what she has made, since she has been a FA or something over at TSR.
That's all.





Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 June 11, 23:52:25
She was an FA, but god only knows why. Some of her stuff is just plain boring, and the rest of it looks like the dog threw up or something. If you do decide you must go check it out, make sure you bring plenty of rum and eye bleach.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 June 11, 23:56:57
How have you not seen her stuff? This thread has been around for a while, and she was a regular 'contributor' to ugly paysite creations and all of the older TSR threads. This forum is busting with pics of Atwat's crimes against pixels creations.

And change your name back. :::chimes in with Miss A::::


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 June 12, 00:11:47
You seriously need to change your name back, Amazone..

Lol, why? Luna means moon. Not lunatic :-p Moon is the female power, ying. :)

But i have no time to scan 40 pages, i don't really care about Atwat, i do care for destroying TSR. Not a female who probably need medication.
She is a very selfdestructive woman as i see her. So she has clearly problems with her self, need for controlling other people, spying on them, lying
about her profession etc.. She is maybe bipolar and they need help. I know people like her, believe me i do. To me she is just another sick (ill) person
who need help.

I was asking because i am a bit curious, since i do not know too much about TSR, their FAs or SAs.

'cause that is the name you started off with.  You know how confusing it is to have someone just switch names on you after knowing them as one name?  "Hey, I know you've been calling me Bob this past year but call me Jim now."  Sounds ridiculous, right?  It really is.  Don't you remember when Tchan kept changing her name and people were having fits?

My family is plagued with bipolar and I can tell you from what we know about her that atwat is not bipolar.  It's irritating how people throw around that word and do not know what it means.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 June 12, 00:22:52
I agree, she is not Bipolar...though that women definitely suffers from a Personality Disorder for sure!  She does have an unstable personality...she kind of falls into what they call Histrionic Personality disorder, heres a link to what that is:  http://www.clevelandclinic.org/health/health-info/docs/3700/3795.asp (http://www.clevelandclinic.org/health/health-info/docs/3700/3795.asp)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 June 12, 00:46:18
    *  Be uncomfortable unless he or she is the center of attention Check
    * Dress provocatively and/or exhibit inappropriately seductive or flirtatious behavior Check - Telling lies about possibilities of sexual adventures while someone's wife is in the house.
    * Shift emotions rapidly Check
    * Act very dramatically—as though performing before an audience—with exaggerated emotions and expressions, yet appears to lack sincerityCheck
    * Be overly concerned with physical appearance FAAAAAAAAAIL
    * Constantly seek reassurance or approval Check - With Thomas and those she uses, she wants confirmation of her supsiciouns and actions
    * Be gullible and easily influenced by others Double check - especially blonde boys that can't sing
    * Be excessively sensitive to criticism or disapproval Check - practically lives here
    * Have a low tolerance for frustration and be easily bored by routine, often beginning projects without finishing them or skipping from one event to another Probable check - allthough forgetting that neon green is not suitable in Ancient Egypt could be an honest mistake.
    * Not think before acting Probable Check
    * Make rash decisions Check - she either likes to use you, or you are vile and need to be destroyed. Decision to destruction made in a heartbeat.
    * Be self-centered and rarely show concern for others Check - hahah brain tumor lololololo lol his wife is fug lololol
    * Have difficulty maintaining relationships, often seeming fake or shallow in their dealings with othersCheck
    * Threaten or attempt suicide to get attention Partly Check - Virtual suicide and ressurection.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 June 12, 01:16:04
heyyyy, that's my brain tumor your laughing at  :o lmao

actually, my biopsy came back benign so that's a good thing!  and the CT Scan showed the mass at the base of the skull, near the roof of my mouth/sinuses and it hasn't gone through the skull, so I am going to live for now! lol ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 June 12, 01:17:11
That is wonderful news Dina! Congrats!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 June 12, 01:33:36
 I'm happy for you :) Is it operable? Or not needed?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Amazone on 2008 June 12, 01:44:46
How have you not seen her stuff? This thread has been around for a while, and she was a regular 'contributor' to ugly paysite creations and all of the older TSR threads. This forum is busting with pics of Atwat's crimes against pixels creations.

And change your name back. :::chimes in with Miss A::::

Can't say i have checked it out, In case i have, i must have forgot it. I looked at some furnitures now, her stuff is very boring.

Yes, yes, maybe i change my nick back.










Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: scrappysim on 2008 June 12, 01:57:41
Dina, that is great news!  I glad that you get to breathe a little easier now.  Virtual hugs all around ( and fun rum drinks to round out the evening.)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 June 12, 01:59:13
I'm relieved to hear that Dina, glad you're ok.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 June 12, 02:01:58
You know Dina, if they ever decide to remove it you could either:

a) put it in a glass full of preservative and give it a special name (you know which name...) or

b) send it off to someone special


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 June 12, 02:06:39
I'm happy for you :) Is it operable? Or not needed?


yes and no :)  They are going to watch it, as long as it doesn't start to go on a growth spurt they are going to leave it.  It's not like it is really bothering me much though...except I know it is there  :o

You know Dina, if they ever decide to remove it you could either:

a) put it in a glass full of preservative and give it a special name (you know which name...) or

b) send it off to someone special

lol, I might give it a name, but I am definitely not shipping it off to that someone special...I will keep it and  abuse it daily for the rest of my life  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: pickles on 2008 June 12, 03:58:05
You won't send it to Atwa as a thank you gift?
I'd probably chase my squeamish husband children around the house with it. >.>


I am glad you got good news though!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Vod Kaknockers on 2008 June 12, 05:23:20
Good news on the medical front is always...good!  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 June 12, 08:14:58
Dina: Wonderful news! Congratulations!  ;D

Tomato:
a) put it in a glass full of preservative and give it a special name (you know which name...) or
b) send it off to someone special

ROFL!

Amazone: Change it back. It's too confusing and everybody still calls you Amazone.
You do not want Pes to change it for you, do you? Or give you a custom title?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 June 12, 08:29:41
Amazone: Change it back. It's too confusing and everybody still calls you Amazone.

We could just compromise and call her Lunazone - satisfaction for both parties.

Huzzah Dina!  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 June 12, 13:08:49
Dina, I'm relieved for you.  Great news! :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Amazone on 2008 June 12, 16:15:12

Amazone: Change it back. It's too confusing and everybody still calls you Amazone.
You do not want Pes to change it for you, do you? Or give you a custom title?

I thought i already had a custom title. Are you trying to be funny or What?
Perkele.





Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 June 12, 17:28:56
Perkele yourself!  >:(

Yes, I forgot about your oh-so-precious custom title! Whoop-de-fucking-doo. 
Nobody but you gives a shit about it.

Whatever, I was trying to save you from the embarassment of getting an embarassing nickname, such as "little bitch" or "pedobait", but since you start swearing at me when I try to be nice, as far as I am concerned, you can go fuck yourself.  >:(

Moron.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Captain Berg on 2008 June 12, 17:38:08
 :D Alia!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/bergsisters/2210a.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 June 12, 18:26:56
I'm happy for you :) Is it operable? Or not needed?


yes and no :)  They are going to watch it, as long as it doesn't start to go on a growth spurt they are going to leave it.  It's not like it is really bothering me much though...except I know it is there  :o
Ugh, that bothered me so much after they found, and finally diagnosed as safe, my liver tumor. It feels like your body has betrayed you. I did not give you permission to do that, stupid immune system! One on or around the brain would really be freaky.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Amazone on 2008 June 12, 19:49:29
Have some vodka Alia, i know that finns love it. No reason to be so mad at me. I have lived in a collective with people from Finland, they
said Perkele all the time.  :D I thought it was very common. The land with 7 seas.
Btw, the Santa Claus is NOT from Finland, but from Norway or Sweden.





Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: coconut on 2008 June 12, 23:13:32
  Anita has no access to the FA forum, although she insists she is still on the payroll and still has the power to choose FA's and SA's. This is about to be tested. She is fucked off to hell about not being able to see the FA board, her paranoia is in overkill, and she's accusing the mods of turning her former FA friends against her, and leaking info to the pirates. She also blames them for her not getting Kaths job. She is desparate to get a inside man on the FA board.

  This is where she has made a claim that could make or break her, and prove once and for all if she has the power she says she has. She has promised rythmgitr/Sheyza a FA position and in return she wants all the FA information he has access to. He will first be made SA, no doubt with access to the SA forum, and then very quickly to FA, which is where Anita needs him to be. All he needs to do is start uploading.

  They're currently planning on starting their own paysite within the next couple of months, so this dirty little deal is due to happen very soon, it will be a lightening fast promotion, it will only be short term, but long enough to give Atwa the info she wants, and give him enough publicity for their site. It should be interesting to see if she really has the power she still claims to have.  If she is telling the truth and Tom HAS agreed to this, we have to question his motives, he will be fully aware, that she would ask Shey to pass on FA info, and also aware that he would do it in return for FA. 

  Atwa also claims to be a silent partner on the new paysite. which she refers to as LS. This is interesting as she is incapable of being silent. She has not told anyone I know that she plans to leave TSR, in fact she still has her eye on making it back to FA, so we are unsure what her connection to this site would be.

 

 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 June 12, 23:18:24
I'm certain that that dude was an SA before, or am I wrong?
I dunno, but his banner and avatar just jamp at me when I went to see how good his stuff are (they're pretty decent, compared to Atwat's) and it just hit me that he used to be an SA, can anyone confirm this?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 June 12, 23:26:26
Yes he was, I keep a list of the sa's and fa's and he dissappeared off the Sa list at the same time as kittyispretty and welsh witch. maybe he left because he got tired of waiting to be FA so atwat is using that to her advantage? LOL any pay site with atwat involved just has to crash and burn, take TSR for example! at least we won't have to put their stuff in the booty, atwat will make sure this site fails before it even starts  ;D



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 June 12, 23:29:35
This is where she has made a claim that could make or break her, and prove once and for all if she has the power she says she has. She has promised rythmgitr/Sheyza a FA position and in return she wants all the FA information he has access to. He will first be made SA, no doubt with access to the SA forum, and then very quickly to FA, which is where Anita needs him to be. All he needs to do is start uploading.


I find this rather impossible to believe.

Sheyza is a good friend of Aikea's, so firstly, why would he be close to the woman who hurt Aikea so? Didn't know that he even talks to Atwa. He has furthermore always said that he wants his stuff to remain free. Has said so on numerous occasions, in public posts and PMs.

If he starts uploading then there may be some truth to it. Otherwise, he has been inactive for months, left TSR some time ago, has friendships with people who have left TSR because of Atwa, and has no strong friendship with Atwa.. So I do not really believe this apparent plot. Sure its not a different ex SA? His involvement makes no sense

edited so it makes sense


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: aikea_guinea on 2008 June 13, 00:36:00
This is where she has made a claim that could make or break her, and prove once and for all if she has the power she says she has. She has promised rythmgitr/Sheyza a FA position and in return she wants all the FA information he has access to. He will first be made SA, no doubt with access to the SA forum, and then very quickly to FA, which is where Anita needs him to be. All he needs to do is start uploading.


I find this rather impossible to believe.

Sheyza is a good friend of Aikea's, so firstly, why would he be close to the woman who hurt Aikea so? Didn't know that he even talks to Atwa. He has furthermore always said that he wants his stuff to remain free. Has said so on numerous occasions, in public posts and PMs.

If he starts uploading then there may be some truth to it. Otherwise, he has been inactive for months, left TSR some time ago, has friendships with people who have left TSR because of Atwa, and has no strong friendship with Atwa.. So I do not really believe this apparent plot. Sure its not a different ex SA? His involvement makes no sense

edited so it makes sense

Actually it does make sense.  Sheyza and I talked some, both while I was at TSR and for a while after I left, and based on our conversations, this all fits.  I'd hoped he'd have gotten away from her, as he seems like a nice enough guy and she's... well... not, but I guess not.  As far as I know, he probably talked to her considerably more than me (if only because I'm a flake when it comes to replying to most anything).  I managed to talk him out of taking the FA position they offered him after I left, but now... who knows.

Edit: I can also confirm the 'LS' being accurate for the initials of the new site he's been working on. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 June 13, 00:48:41
Isn't Sheyza the dude that looks female and was whining in his mts2 blog a while back about how he never got featured while the same people kept on being featured?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 June 13, 00:50:19
Coconut, the information you have provided in the past has been highly incitefull and useful, but this bit seems to be way out there and extremely unlikely.  As posted previously, rythgitr was previously an SA when I was SA not long ago.  And if you are indeed the inside person you claim to be, you would have already known that.

Also, when you say "THEY" I'm assuming you mean both Sheyza and Atwat together... which on it's own is disturbing and doubtful beyond belief. 

This leads me to believe you're trying to pull a fast one on us.  Providing faulty information for whatever perverse purpose suits you.  Perhaps to see how this group of informed people will take it and how much crap can be stirred up because of it?  It's a dangerous game to play, are you sure you're up for it?

I don't see how coconut is pulling a fast one - (I'm going to go with she based on how many shes there are in the community) she says that this is a test of how much Atwat is telling the truth - if Sheyza starts uploading more, then Atwat is telling the truth (at least in part) and if he doesn't, Atwat has lost some traction with her sekrit TSR powa threats.

And crap stirred up - that's what always happens at PMBD, be it truthful or not - that's why this phorum is full of wild accusations and interesting truths - everyone comes here to do that.  It doesn't actually hurt us in any way - it only ever disturbs peoples of the paysite variety.  We don't actually have to worry about integrity as most people firmly believe our close proximity to the booty means that we have none.

Bring it on coconut.  :D

Isn't Sheyza the dude that looks like female and was whining in his mts2 blog about how he never got featured while the same people kept on being featured?

Yep.  TSR now.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 June 13, 01:11:33
I agree with cala, I was just going to post and say why don't we ask aikea?, but she kindly posted first, confirming coconuts post fits with conversations aikea has had with this person, she also confirmed he speaks to atwat, and even confirmed the websites initials, thats enough confirmations for me. I trust what Aikea says because she has been honest with us from the start since she came here. I also trust coconut because things he/she has said in the past have been correct. when coconut was here the first time, I was on the inside of TSR, and I know that everything that was posted then was true, and it drove atwat crazy. (well.. crazier!)


Coconut, the information you have provided in the past has been highly incitefull and useful, but this bit seems to be way out there and extremely unlikely.  As posted previously, rythgitr was previously an SA when I was SA not long ago.  And if you are indeed the inside person you claim to be, you would have already known that.

Have I missed a post? where exactly did coconut claim to be anyone? I don't remember reading he/she posting their position within TSR, assuming they have one, and where did he/she say that rythgitr wasn't a former SA?

ETA: I'm looking forward to see how atwats test pans out ;D the post will effect the outcome, I suppose, but if coconut had waited it wouldn't have been so juicy after the fact, and we all would have said why didn't you post before! I guess is really a test for Tomass, will he still give atwat what she wants, or cave in because the pirates know  ???

Edited to thank Aikea for her valued imput


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 June 13, 01:13:37
Daggs, coconut's information has been spot-on. That Coconut didn't mention rythmgtr's brief stint as SA is reasonable, given the more urgent information provided. Aikea, thanks for your confirmation of info as well.

Ah, what wicked webs they weave...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 June 13, 01:39:32
NP  ;D

yes please!

*offers coke, ice and a cocktail umbrella*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Minolia on 2008 June 13, 07:31:43
Isn't Sheyza the dude that looks female and was whining in his mts2 blog a while back about how he never got featured while the same people kept on being featured?

Indeed he's also done a bit worse than that in his time.

(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb1/Minolia_arr/sheyza.jpg)

That screen cap is from around the first time he became an SA. Personally I think he's just Atwat's type.  :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 June 13, 09:36:14
Actually it does make sense.  Sheyza and I talked some, both while I was at TSR and for a while after I left, and based on our conversations, this all fits.  I'd hoped he'd have gotten away from her, as he seems like a nice enough guy and she's... well... not, but I guess not.  As far as I know, he probably talked to her considerably more than me (if only because I'm a flake when it comes to replying to most anything).  I managed to talk him out of taking the FA position they offered him after I left, but now... who knows.

Ah, didn't know that. Thanks Aikea for the insight, even though its not exactly marvellous news heh. Well without that knowledge, would say that yes it does make sense and then is probably true

In which case, will get this out now to show what a lovely two faced hypocrit he is  :-*

(http://i32.tinypic.com/fldfyb.png)

Last paragraph in that screenie:
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Also, some of you think my sets will be pay soon or something, but don't worry. I would never let that happen. Even though I recolor a lot of pay meshes, it's only because I'm friends with alot of the pay artists and really enjoy their meshes. So, no worries about me becoming pay ok? :) Even though my creations aren't great, and by far not the best out there, I know that there is much more joy in all my work being shared by everyone.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: BobbinRobbin on 2008 June 14, 04:03:16
I gotta say, I really hope Atwat DOESN'T get Kath's job as upload mod...because then she'd use it to her advantage, and only end up allowing uploads of people she likes. Anyone who has any kind of issue with her, would might as well forget uploading, cause she'd never approve them, and there would always be SOME seemingly "legit" reason for it.....

No, TSR, PLEASE don't let Atwat do any upload approvals!! No artist, no matter how fugly or untalented, deserves THAT kind of fascism. Not to mention denying us downloaders access to our own favorite and talented ones just cause you don't like them.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 June 14, 04:04:33
I gotta say, I really hope Atwat DOESN'T get Kath's job as upload mod...because then she'd use it to her advantage, and only end up allowing uploads of people she likes. Anyone who has any kind of issue with her, would might as well forget uploading, cause she'd never approve them, and there would always be SOME seemingly "legit" reason for it.....

No, TSR, PLEASE don't let Atwat do any upload approvals!! No artist, no matter how fugly or untalented, deserves THAT kind of fascism. Not to mention denying us downloaders access to our own favorite and talented ones just cause you don't like them.

Dude that would be wonderful.  No easier and quicker way to turn people anti-pay.  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 June 14, 09:29:59
*high fives Cala"

Yea! Agree! Atwat for Upload Mod!!!!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AW on 2008 June 14, 11:09:24
*joins in with Cala & Dee*

WOOT!  Atwat for Upload Mod!! 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: CaptainChris on 2008 June 14, 14:19:30
Oh I concur! What better way for T$R to kill itself than to let nutso be incharge of what is uploaded. We will have a choice of Ancient Egyptian photobooths covered in polkadots and other fantabulously awful stuff to scare the sheepies away! Brilliant!  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 June 14, 22:55:53
If Atwat was the upload manager at least there'ld be very few stuff admitted (not anyone can do green neon egyptian dress and vomit yellow pets items! That ain't easy. Nor human. And the tsr booty pirates could take some rest.

Oh gosh i just had another horrible vision: imagine Buntah as the upload manager! Only squared/angular items admitted, with ugly textures and neon colors :-X A boxy technicolor nightmare.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 June 16, 16:58:54
I vote Buntah and Atwat as co-upload managers - they would kill T$R in less than a week :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Kragey on 2008 June 16, 17:02:28
I vote Buntah and Atwat as co-upload managers - they would kill T$R in less than a week :D

We should start a major campaign to promote them as UMs, then when they get the positions, we can take bets on how fast T$R sinks in to the abyss.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 June 16, 18:36:09
Given the quantity and quality of FA offerings lately,  I'd say TSR has already sunk into the abyss.

Even if you were foolish enough to think TSR deserved your monies, would you subscribe if you got only one (or fewer)  useful FA set per day?



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Markus on 2008 June 16, 19:15:21
Would it be possible to have three upload managers? If you really want to kill T$R I think we should consider adding Cardrew to the mix.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 June 16, 19:47:37
Oh god, Cardrew could destory T$R on her/his/its own :D

I also second the campaign :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: CaptainChris on 2008 June 16, 19:56:35
Maybe a Jan into the mix, to prevent new members from joining, because they're secretly all after her.  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 June 16, 22:41:24
That's a damn good idea! We should do fan banners and such :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Kragey on 2008 June 17, 05:58:27
Cardrew

INSTANT DEATH!

Seriously. If I was gettin' busy with the sexiest person on Earth and I was TOTALLY in to it, they could just say "Cardrew." And I'd lose my horny instantly. Cardrew is that bad.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 June 17, 07:37:17
Off topic:
Have some vodka Alia, i know that finns love it. No reason to be so mad at me. I have lived in a collective with people from Finland, they
said Perkele all the time.  :D I thought it was very common. The land with 7 seas.

Ah, sorry!  :D
I just had a flashback to when I was working in customer service and people used to yell at me and swear at me for no reason at all.  ::)
I can't stand people swearing at me, and that's why I got mad.  :D



Berg: Smoochies.  :D


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Btw, the Santa Claus is NOT from Finland, but from Norway or Sweden.
Pfft. Shows what you know. The Finnish Santa Claus gets more letters than the Swedish/Norweigian Santa Claus. Therefore, he lives in Finland. ;)

On topic:
TSR sucks. Atwa for UM!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 June 17, 21:57:54
...

Sheyza  22:54:12 Posting in Poor Atwat.....

...Hello Sheyza


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 17, 22:12:31
I have to clear a few things concerning my site and TSR and whatnot...

Yes. I'm building a website.

No. It's not in any way a paysite. I don't know where you got that from.

No. I'm not being chokeheld by Anita, Thomas, or anyone else to be an FA. It was mentioned, but that's been a long time ago. I ultimately decided on my own will, to get a site.

No. No one else is going to be on my site, accept for me.

Yes. I have talked to Anita, and Aikea. Several times. Nothing fishy there. Just talking. Just because someone talks to someone else, doesn't mean they're involved in a conspiracy... There's no crazy partnership going on with my site. My site is just that... Mine.

Aside from that... I would like to note that I've gotten a great amount of help building my site from Aikea and Anita both. I'm <f*ing retarded/> when it comes to html... but there's no freaky partnership or anything of that sort. Just thought I would clear up some of the confusion. Carry on.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: keirra on 2008 June 17, 22:25:40
Yay for no pay!  Thanks for the info, Sheyza.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: pickles on 2008 June 17, 22:25:56
Well, if it's not a paysite, you can has rum!

And good luck with your site!  :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 17, 22:31:19
Rum...

I think I'll just have a glass of Pepsi.  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: strix on 2008 June 17, 22:36:51
... Maybe some rum-flavoured Pepsi? Yay for freeness! Thanks for letting us know :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 June 17, 22:41:56
Mmmm Pepsi.

Can I swap my sugar free orange Tango for your Pepsi? I'm starting to feel my drink is bleh :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 17, 22:45:02
Yeah sure, here, drink away.
*hands ice cold pepsi*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 June 17, 22:55:17
Glad to hear about the site, and that you came to clear things up. We MUCH prefer hearing things straight from the source.

Oh, and no matter what you drink in real life, we all drink rum here.  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 17, 23:03:10
Well, it's always better to not believe second-hand information. If I may say, there are several other things mentioned in this thread that I know not to be 100% true, but I will only speak on my behalf, as I feel it's unhealthy to gossip.

As for this...'rum', I will try some, but please don't be mad if I spit up.  :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 June 17, 23:49:00
Glad to hear you changed your mind, and also very surprised atwat was 'helping' with the html, as atwat knows as much in html as she does about creating  ::)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 18, 00:10:32
Allow me to inquire about something...

I have noticed that many creators use meshes from other sites to make their content. Free and pay artists alike... all I can say is, at least Anita builds the meshes herself rather than using someone else's mesh and taking their credit.  :-\ You have to respect her for that, if not for anything else... Not everyone is perfect, and it's solely your opinion wheither or not you like her/ her work... but everyone has to learn somehow, and she is taking the time to learn correctly.

Please take into consideration that she does try, despite the fact that you don't 'agree' with her, or like her work. You have to notice the good in everyone, even your enemies.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 June 18, 00:16:54
Well, thanks for filling us in about your site. -   :)

Considering that you're an associate of atwa, I'll take your suggestion with a grain of salt.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: vindi on 2008 June 18, 00:20:09
Sheyza, you remind me of this librarian who I know... We have a really not so nice one who always yells at everyone and is a general pain. (No, you don't remind me of that one.) And we have another one who told us that said aforementioned librarian isn't being an ass on purpose, she just really has a hard job (It's a former regional branch... lotta books come flying though.)

But we're talking about an ebil paysiter here, so it's not the same, is it? :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 18, 00:31:22
I am in association with everyone. I talk to whomever I want, when/where ever. I have many friends.  :) Thank you for at least taking it with salt rather than not at all.

vindi, at least I'm not wearing glasses and hissing 'shhhhhhhhh!' and demanding libarary fees. :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: vindi on 2008 June 18, 01:09:02
lol, Sheyza! We have a severe lack of 'old school' librarians. If only real libraries were like the ones in movies :D.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: gelydh on 2008 June 18, 02:07:33
I'm sorry, but I find meshing to be a helluva lot easier than texturing. For another, isn't that the same as saying Xandher is worse than Anita just because she doesn't create her own meshes? Honestly, 99% of creating is in the texturing. After all, flood-filling a mesh doesn't make it look nice. *looks pointedly at Grizzelda*

Yes, she's learning, I read that; however, why was she made a FA if she's still "learning"?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 June 18, 02:18:11
Yes, she's learning, I read that; however, why was she made a FA if she's still "learning"?

Because she's either diddling or black mailing Thomass?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 18, 02:22:38
If you want to know, ask Thomas that question. I didn't promote her to FA.  :-\ But I don't think that anyone should be bad-mouthing anyone else publicly, so I just stay positive. Thats all I was saying gelydh. I would have done the same for you had someone else said the like.

It isn't saying Xander, or whomever else is worse... it's just saying exactly what I said. "Anita builds her own meshes." In my opinion, being able to construct your own meshes from the ground up is more note-worthy. I don't think anything is wrong with that.

Btw... I didn't know Xander didn't build her own meshes until just now...  :o


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Quinctia on 2008 June 18, 02:36:49
They're just two different types of creating, that require different types of skills.  Sometimes it may seem that texturing is easier, with the amount of people who think that they can just slap a pattern or a photo on anything, but decent texturing requires knowledge of modeling, being able to actually use an art program to do some shading and other adjustments by hand.  And those out there who can HAND TEXTURE anything they put their mind to are just as awesome as those who can mesh anything they decide to mesh!

A mesh in itself isn't a thing of wonderment, anyway...just look at the tons of meshes that are essentially geometric shapes and/or amorphous blobs being passed off as objects in this community.  That took no skill whatsoever.  That's just as bad as floodfilling something and calling it a texture--not only that, it probably took the same amount of time to make.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 18, 02:43:28
Yep, good point. Not everyone is good at the same things. Being able to texture and being able to mesh carry the same weights... but the only problem I have with this whole ordeal, is that people take meshes that other's work hard on, and claim they made them, then get credit. There's nothing really fair or positive about that no matter how many times you colmb over it.

Of course, there's nothing fair with texturing either... because whether you get them offline, or take the pictures yourself, someone else still made them.

I agree, that the really good texturers are the ones that can hand-draw them.  :) Also, the really good meshers are the ones that mesh themselves. Same thing.

You know, since everyone thinks Anita is no good at what she does now, your point could apply here too. Maybe she should try making another type of content?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Kragey on 2008 June 18, 04:19:10
Considering that you're an associate of atwa, I'll take your suggestion with a grain of salt.

Maybe we shouldn't let a shit ton of bad apples ruin an entire barrel, because there are bound to be a few good apples there? Or maybe I should just be more of a bitch.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: BobbinRobbin on 2008 June 18, 04:40:22
Sheyza, thanks for clearing up a lot of things.

That said, I would like you to follow your own words, and consider this: Anita lies about a lot of people. Take whatever SHE says about ANYONE with no salt at all...especially if it's mean or unkind. She IS friendly and nice to you now, cause she isn't upset with you. But, hon, the minute you do ANYTHING that she might construe as wrong or disagree with her in any way...watch your back. You too will be bad-mouthed all over. You won't even have to try. This is not speculation, or gossip. It's fact. She's proven this over and over about LOTS of people.

So, congrats on your site, glad it's not pay, and just remember....ok to be friends with Anita, as long as she likes you, you are lucky. Just be careful and watch your back. Things can change in a nanosecond.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 June 18, 04:57:08
Maybe she should try making another type of content?
Objectively, she tried her hands at lot of different things (not just with Thoma$$, i'm serious :)) clothes, objects, walls, hairs, accessories etc. The problem is that they all suck. She lacks technical knowledge, color association, design and artistic capabilities. So what's else left to try? Videos maybe.
Look here http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/atwa/ she already done all these kind of items. All these are fug-included.

But i do agree her objects are slightly better than before, there is a tiny improvement. But hey in several years that's just too slow. The problem is that she didn't focused on creating for Sims 2, she was too occupied to "manage artists" and playing the spanish inquisition in the forum. So she didn't have time left to improve her skills.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: gelydh on 2008 June 18, 04:59:01
Yep, good point. Not everyone is good at the same things. Being able to texture and being able to mesh carry the same weights... but the only problem I have with this whole ordeal, is that people take meshes that other's work hard on, and claim they made them, then get credit. There's nothing really fair or positive about that no matter how many times you colmb over it.

(...)

I was just making a point, saying that being able to mesh doesn't give anyone the excuse to ooze a- "My stuff is the greatest thing EVAR!" -type of attitude. Which is the impression that I've always gotten from her, particularly when she'd whine and moan about the pirates in the FA and SA forums. Then her minions would come along and have the AUDACITY to say that they were "just jealous" of her "mad skillZ" and she'd just lap it up.

On a random note, for me, personally, I can do a mesh in a few minutes and then take hours upon hours texturing it. I'm sure it is different for other people, but that's just how it is for me. In any case, meshing and texturing go hand-in-hand. The difference is that texturing can stand on its own, whereas meshes need decent textures to be appealing. For example, take my cardboard robots boxes or Aikea's paper - EXTREMELY simplistic meshes that are made interesting and useable due to the textures.

But I'm venturing off-topic. I agree with RoundRobin's post, though. It's the sort of thing that, while I've not experienced it firsthand, have witnessed it happening to others.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 June 18, 09:56:37
Sheyza, oh please....defend her if you like, say things in here aren't true...whatever...I will tell you there are a lot of things in this thread that are true, more than aren't.  You never had a problem with  her because she liked you.  Because you believe/d her bullshit.  You are one of those SA that gelydh is talking about in the FA/SA forum that fed into her crazyness...when that crap was happening in the SA forum earlier this year, you were one of the first ones to baaa like a sheep and side with Anita and Thomas...but I guess you buy into the TSR mentality of censoring everything and throwing in  your face how grateful you should be to be an SA there and how grateful you should be because they give you a free sub while you are an SA or a mini site...being an SA may be worse than being an FA there...we got pimped out for nothing...and then made to feel bad if we questioned the regime.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 June 18, 09:59:39
Yay a Gelydh :D

And Sheyza, the attitude to be positive in general that you have is very good. However, do remember that people may exploit you for this. Atwa is well known for being manipulative and scheming - would suggest that you open your eyes a bit more in case she is doing that to you.

Seeing as how it seems your site is the site that Atwa has claimed to be a new paysite she was working on, can you just clarify this: the site will be 100% free or not? No pay area, no donation packs? If not, then we have no problem. Yet you should be concerned that Atwa believes she has a claim over the site, and it will be pay.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: tIIsuggas on 2008 June 18, 10:04:19
I'm sorry, but I find meshing to be a helluva lot easier than texturing. For another, isn't that the same as saying Xandher is worse than Anita just because she doesn't create her own meshes? Honestly, 99% of creating is in the texturing. After all, flood-filling a mesh doesn't make it look nice.

I have to agree with Gelydh, I find meshing a whole lot easier than texturing.  I'm crap at texturing, and hand drawing is non-existent here.  I borrow textures wherever possible from Maxis mostly. 



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 June 18, 10:25:20
I'm sorry, but I find meshing to be a helluva lot easier than texturing. For another, isn't that the same as saying Xandher is worse than Anita just because she doesn't create her own meshes? Honestly, 99% of creating is in the texturing. After all, flood-filling a mesh doesn't make it look nice.

I have to agree with Gelydh, I find meshing a whole lot easier than texturing.  I'm crap at texturing, and hand drawing is non-existent here.  I borrow textures wherever possible from Maxis mostly. 



Me too.  I am a horrible recolorer/retexturer.   But, making a really good (and low poly) mesh that can take good textures is hard work.  I worked with another person in making my kitchen set and my Ethan Allen bedroom set.  If I hadn't, my meshes would have been a nightmare for others to recolor/retexture.  I would send her the meshes, she would fiddle with her textures on them, tell me where the problems in my meshes were and I would fix them.  Because she is so creative in her use of textures, issues I would have never seen came to light.  Once that was done, my meshes improved because other people could more easily make something almost completely different from them using textures, which I thought was very cool.  So, in my mind, being a good texturer is just as important as being a good mesher because it takes a being good texturer to complete the meshing process.  My meshes were better because I had linked up with a good texturer. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 18, 10:26:16
I only mesh when I really need something specific myself... working with colorless shapes gets really boring after some time.  :-\ Texturing is my field. I love color.

Don't worry about me peoples... if I feel like anyone is stepping on me I back off. I have alot of friends too, so it's not like Anita is my life-long bestest best buddy in zee world. If you get my drift. Some of you aparently seem to think I'm Anita's lapdog or something, when she's simply just someone I talk to. It's not like we're eloping to the Bahamas and popping out children.  ???

Just because I maintain a positive attitude doesn't mean I can't get nasty if I have to. Also, I would defend any of my friends like this, not just Anita. Like I said, I have alot of friends... and what are friends for?  ;)

Anyone that gets mad at anyone else is going to do bad things to that person, regardless of who they are. That's just human nature. So if Anita got angry and did something to me, it wouldn't be that shocking. Everyone has done it / is capable of it. I don't really let crap like that get to me anyways. Like when I moved to TSR last year and I got talked about in here. I'm the person that's going to ignore what's said about me and move on. I'm pretty good at writting stuff off and not worrying over it.

No, the site won't be pay in any case. There will be an option to donate if you feel like it, but no donation packs or anything of that sort. I'm also planning on adding a forum to it eventually. You're all welcome to it when I get this thing built. I'm not an html genious by any means.  :P

I agree that the drama surrounding TSR has hurt alot of artists... one reason I've got this site comming. I like to avoid things like that.

This is random... but do you know that when I moved to TSR, I had nooooo idea there was a "paysite debate"? You guys were a little hard on me, when I had no damn idea what people were talking about or what was going on. Shame on you for not telling me of this anti-pay thing... then killing me when I had no idea moving to another site was bad. Bah... now where did that god aweful rum scurry off to...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 June 18, 10:43:32
So, in my mind, being a good texturer is just as important as being a good mesher because it takes a being good texturer to complete the meshing process.  My meshes were better because I had linked up with a good texturer. 

I find meshing more enjoyable as well - the hardest thing is getting new ideas on what to make. I mean there's google for inspiration, but the darn thing requires keywords.  :D  I have played so many tetris games and in my mind broken things into their component parts while renovating my furniture, that I find it easy.  Surprising how versatile a cylinder or a square can be.  :)

This is random... but do you know that when I moved to TSR, I had nooooo idea there was a "paysite debate"? You guys were a little hard on me, when I had no damn idea what people were talking about or what was going on. Shame on you for not telling me of this anti-pay thing... then killing me when I had no idea moving to another site was bad.

It really isn't our responsibility to tell you everything - plus those that did let you know were ignored.  I know I myself posted in your creator blog at MTS2 that it was a pity you were going to a paysite, and that this meant I wasn't going to use your stuff, and you went anyway.  If you didn't use google or wonder why, then really, shame on you.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 June 18, 10:45:28
Anyone that gets mad at anyone else is going to do bad things to that person, regardless of who they are. That's just human nature. So if Anita got angry and did something to me, it wouldn't be that shocking.
Yelling? Fine. Gossip? Fine. Utter destructon? LUNACY.

Well, you have acces to any information you may need. You're not an idiot.
If you think the behaviour Atwa has shown against other people she dislikes is normal and human nature, then you have an awfully dark look on things...
besides the childish things she has done like joke about brain tumors and gossip here and there, she has slandered people, ruined friendships by playing groups out against eachother and effectively isolated people who made choices she didn't personally like. You can ask your buddy Aikea.

Also, I wonder what your role was in that whole 'Truth' thing. You linked to it in your profile, effectively trying to destroy a giant free site. Are you even worth the time?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 June 18, 10:50:28
but the only problem I have with this whole ordeal, is that people take meshes that other's work hard on, and claim they made them, then get credit. There's nothing really fair or positive about that no matter how many times you colmb over it.

Of course, there's nothing fair with texturing either... because whether you get them offline, or take the pictures yourself, someone else still made them.


correct! this is basically what Atwat and a lot of other FA/paysiters do. For example, they take a bed mesh made by Maxis, open it in milkshape and then they move a few bars on the headboard, then they open the texture, copy and paste a random picture on the bedding and hey presto all rights to the bed have became theirs, they claim they made it from the 'ground up', they sell it to the community, (without credit to the person who actually spent weeks creating the mesh they just altered or the artist who drew or photographed the texture) and then they expect to be worshipped as the god of all creators. of course a lot of freesiters also do this, the difference being, freesiters understand you cannot sell or claim any copywrite on someone elses work. I'm sure that IRL I couldn't sell a chanel dress as my own design/creation, even if I did go to the trouble of sewing an extra pocket on it and adding my own label.

Atwat isn't just panned here for her craptastic taste and colour blindness, it's her whole attitude, as a creator she may be poor at best, but as a person she's a vile, egotistical, manipulative control freak, who will lie and back stab anyone. Naturally you don't see that in her yet, because she's oh so nice, and had such a hard time with those evil pirates. (who she can't seem to keep away from ::) )  but if you're naive enough to think the many, many people in the community (both paysite and free) who have fell on the wrong side of her are all lying or even jealous of her then you're in for a fall when you have outlived your use. I'm sure most of her former friends here would agree she can be very convincing, you really do feel she's a nice person until it's too late. Do yourself a favor, go through all your old PMs/mails/IM's and make a list of all the people this nice person has said nasty things about, then make a list of everyone she has complemented. You won't want to admit it, especially here, but one list will be a lot longer than the other.

If you have been stupid enough to let her do any work at all on your site, you're gonna have an uphill struggle explaining to her that she doesn't own the copywrite to it  ::)  I find it really hard to believe that she would help in any way to create a freesite. She's already spreading her claim to your site, so unless you want it turning pay with scarabs and ancient egyptian photobooths as far as the eye can see, you should really have a long chat with her. Tomass let her help him by passing on info, the next minute she's telling everyone she runs TSR and picks out all the FA's and SA's, so take heed and learn from his mistake.

ETA: meshing isn't that difficult, I made my very first 2 meshes yesterday, my first attempt and I made 2! now the hard thing is gonna be the textures.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 18, 11:02:34
But isn't your goal here to kinda make people 'aware' of this... as in... before they go pay? I didn't know anything about TSR being a bad site... or any paysites being eeevil. I'm not the all-knowing teen guru of paysite-dom.

And the post in my blog was kind of late. By then, everyone was already pissed off at me, and what was I supposed to do? I didn't know that part of the community existed. How can I google something I know nothing about? Before, I was only concearned with playing my game, like a 16 year old should have been. I had turned 17 when I actually started creating things. Now, I'm going to be 20 in four months... and I still... play... this game...  :-[

A dark look on things eh? Well... lets see.. black hair... black clothes... hmm... me? gothic? dark? naaah... everyone is capable of being an utter ass.

The only help Anita really gave me on the site was telling me if things were showing up, if tiles matched, if frames were correct... Aikea did all of the extreamely helpful work. Now she is a genius.  :o

And I still don't get why you think Anita is my partner for the site. I plainly told you she wasn't. She's just another person I talk to. Whoopty doo. Don't know why it's such a big deal that I talk to a few people. Like I said... it's not like we're eloping to the Bahamas and popping out kids.  :-\


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 June 18, 11:09:33
But isn't your goal here to kinda make people 'aware' of this... as in... before they go pay?

If you have a look around this forum, you will find that within threads regarding new paysites there is at least one person who contacts them with information how to remain free, and this is often sucessful. This issue is widely known, and generally people do know about it before they go pay. Those do not are often give some helpful advice about this - thats all we can really do.

IAnd I still don't get why you think Anita is my partner for the site. I plainly told you she wasn't. She's just another person I talk to.

Atwa told someone she was a partner on your site, and this was told to Coconut who posted it a couple of pages back. Therefore it is what Atwa has apparently said, so we are not exactly thinking this completely at random. That is why we are unsure to it and are asking you about it


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 18, 11:17:27
I know, and understand. Since I'm the source, you can believe what I say. She's not my partner. That's all I really came here to say, besides that the site was going to be free. Didn't really want to get into all of this other stuff.

I think I might go to bed now anyway... I have to go to work in a couple hours and I feel like a zombie souped up on crack screaming "braaaains! give me braaaaains!" *snores*

Well, anyway I hope I did clear up a couple things. Goodnight and best wishes to all.  :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 June 18, 11:26:38
A dark look on things eh? Well... lets see.. black hair... black clothes... hmm... me? gothic? dark? naaah... everyone is capable of being an utter ass.

Lol @ cliche applied to self.
Yes, she is capable of being an utter ass. But she was/is also in a position at a website where she carries/carried alot of responsibility, where people were dependant on her. She abused that position to do what she did. She didn't do it once, but she did it continuesly. That's more than being an utter ass in my opinion.
Anyway, use protection. ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 June 18, 11:32:31
But isn't your goal here to kinda make people 'aware' of this... as in... before they go pay? I didn't know anything about TSR being a bad site... or any paysites being eeevil. I'm not the all-knowing teen guru of paysite-dom.

Yes - and that's what we do.  What you're asking is for people to come to your house and enter the keyword in google for you.  We don't do that because the next argument would be "you're harassing people".

You were sufficiently aware of S2C to make a post in the debate room concerning the featured policy at MTS2, and there was a giant section called "The Great Paysites Debate" - kinda hard to miss.  Not to mention that IIRC, RainCandy is/was your girlfriend, and she was fully aware of it.

Plus, you know, there's logic - you belonged to a giant freesite with freesite policies.

And yes, he was the one (it's still there by the way as of a couple of days ago) to post the link to the Delphy bullcrap.



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 June 18, 12:15:28
Thanks. So absolutely no reason to believe he would be this naive.
There's a good chance he was nudged in this direction by certain people.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 June 18, 16:57:57
But isn't your goal here to kinda make people 'aware' of this... as in... before they go pay? I didn't know anything about TSR being a bad site... or any paysites being eeevil. I'm not the all-knowing teen guru of paysite-dom.

Yes - and that's what we do.  What you're asking is for people to come to your house and enter the keyword in google for you.  We don't do that because the next argument would be "you're harassing people".
Or one could, you know, read the EULA on the game you purchased and fired up. No excuses, there.


For the record, as a sucktastic creator I haven't tried meshing. I'm scared. I really need to, as I did see a tutorial which was very much on my level recently and I want to work on the dearth of male hairs and clothing. Texturing? Eh. I'm good at doing a simple one-tone recolor or creating and slapping logos on things. I do that a lot. Object retexturing tends to be beyond me, as most of the texture files are gobbled up...bits here and there, and I can't follow the flow.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 June 18, 17:00:50
Anyone that gets mad at anyone else is going to do bad things to that person, regardless of who they are. That's just human nature. So if Anita got angry and did something to me, it wouldn't be that shocking. Everyone has done it / is capable of it. I don't really let crap like that get to me anyways.

I'm sorry, I don't agree with that at all.  If I am upset with a person that does not give me the right to do horrible and say things to him/her and effectively try to destroy that person.  What if I was wrong?  What if it was a misunderstanding or mistaken identity?  Wouldn't it make more sense to try to talk to the person you're upset with and resolve the issue maturely before doing something you can't take back?

I'd imagine you would be surprised/shocked if you had perceivably done nothing wrong and she attacked you!  Unfortunately this has been a reality for most of her victims.  She doesn't need proof to turn on you.  All she needs is a thought.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 June 18, 18:36:47
I totally agree with MissA.
Most of the time it's just misunderstanding, or even plain irony you failed to see. NEVER click on the "Reply" button immediatly, give it time, re-read it and suddenly it won't be aggressivity or personnal attack anymore. If only flaming trolls applied that, life would be easier. Life is way too short to be ranting for a mere post. Trolls, heed that! Especially if english isn't your prime language!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 18, 19:00:41
I realize Anita has done things that nobody here agrees with, and that I should have paid more attention around the forums... but like I said, at the time I was concerned with the game itself and didn't care less about the rest of it. Still don't in my own weird way.  :-\

And about the post with Delphy... I had heard that from someone (and no it wasn't Lyric, contrary to belief, I didn't even know her at the time) and I got very freaked out over it. Of course, when anyone hears the word pedophile they're likely to cringe. After I heard Delphy's side though, and got more informed, my opinion changed about that. It simply just freaked me out to hear it at first. That's all there really is to it.

missangelica, then you are one of the better people in this world, but even I have trouble fighting fire with sugar, sunshine, kisses and butterflies. Sometimes I like to use a mace, land mines, super glue and a pit of snakes.  :)

I do appreciate the warnings about her, but let me find out for myself. I'm stubborn, so if it's true, then naturally I will have to learn this the hard way. If she turns on me, I guess I'll just join the crowd over here eh? Buy myself a pirate hat, say Arr! and drink imaginary rum until I'm green in the face. If I catch scurvy, then aparently I did something wrong. lol

Like I said before though, it's not like we're best friends or something. I barely talk to her really. We've talked on msn like maybe 4 times...  and most of it hasn't even been about any of this.  ???

Dr House, I agree... most people take things as insults a little to quickly, which is why I didn't jump all up in here like RAWR! DIE!  ;) It takes alot to actually offend / piss me off. I'm fairly mellow and optomistic. I try to see good in everything. It's a curse.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: BobbinRobbin on 2008 June 18, 20:22:27
Well, said, Shey.

At the very least, tho, have a nice LOOONG chat with her about why she is running around claiming your site, and saying things about it that give the wrong impression. Cause, she's been doing that ALL OVER the place. Small wonder we got the wrong idea about it!!  We're probably not the only ones!!!  ::)


***on second thought, might not be a good idea....she might just lie and say, who, me? But assuredly she IS doing this. Just visit other sites and mention yours.



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Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 June 18, 20:56:49
I'm sorry, I don't agree with that at all.  If I am upset with a person that does not give me the right to do horrible and say things to him/her and effectively try to destroy that person.  What if I was wrong?  What if it was a misunderstanding or mistaken identity?  Wouldn't it make more sense to try to talk to the person you're upset with and resolve the issue maturely before doing something you can't take back?

I'd imagine you would be surprised/shocked if you had perceivably done nothing wrong and she attacked you!  Unfortunately this has been a reality for most of her victims.  She doesn't need proof to turn on you.  All she needs is a thought.

Absolutely, 100% on the money right there!!! 

I realize Anita has done things that nobody here agrees with, and that I should have paid more attention around the forums... but like I said, at the time I was concerned with the game itself and didn't care less about the rest of it. Still don't in my own weird way.  :-\
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I do appreciate the warnings about her, but let me find out for myself. I'm stubborn, so if it's true, then naturally I will have to learn this the hard way. If she turns on me, I guess I'll just join the crowd over here eh? Buy myself a pirate hat, say Arr! and drink imaginary rum until I'm green in the face. If I catch scurvy, then aparently I did something wrong. lol

Hey Sunshine, I think the things she has done are more than disagreeable...they have been dispicable, they have been hurtful and they have been downright evil.  And if  you want to find out about them yourself...well you go right ahead...when she sees you reading about all these "made up lies" about her...it may be sooner for you than you thought...and being mellow and optimistic won't make it any better...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 June 18, 21:00:21
If she turns on me, I guess I'll just join the crowd over here eh? Buy myself a pirate hat, say Arr! and drink imaginary rum until I'm green in the face.

Imaginary? * hic *

Quote from: Sheyza
We've talked on msn like maybe 4 times...  and most of it hasn't even been about any of this.  ???

Please, please, pleeeease tell me she was giving you relationship advice and recipes. Now that would make my week. -  ;)




Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 June 18, 21:20:45
missangelica, then you are one of the better people in this world, but even I have trouble fighting fire with sugar, sunshine, kisses and butterflies. Sometimes I like to use a mace, land mines, super glue and a pit of snakes.  :)

Reading your entire post the first thought that came to my mind was, "He doesn't know who he is talking to, does he?"  Before you roll your eyes and think I just have a big head, hear me out.  It's hard to hold a conversation beyond chit-chat with someone you know nothing about.  We at least knew about you beforehand but, as far as I can tell, you know nothing about us as individuals.  You certainly wouldn't of said that (what I quoted) to me if you were familiar with me. 

You misinterpreted what I said.  Let me try to explain it a different way.  When you feel something negative has been done to you or said about you, you have two initial choices.  You can think about it or react.  Atwa reacts before thinking.  She doesn't take the time to find out if it is even true before lashing out.  Since you can't take back what you do, no matter how much you may regret it later, it makes sense to think about it and approach it as diplomatically as possible.  If you do it that way then you won't look like an ass if you find out that you are wrong about the situation.  Even better, if it is true then you will come out the better person because you're not stooping down to that person's level.  It's not about sugar, sunshine, kisses, and butterflies.  It's about civility and maturity.

ETA:  As for the "let me find out for myself how horrible Atwa is", you're really showing your age.  I'm not really surprised though.  My youngest sister is your age and she has the same attitude.  Warning her does no good either.  When Atwa does turn on you, don't come here and expect us to kiss your boo-boo's.

Also, how does she feel about you talking to pirates?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 June 18, 22:48:36
I'm sure she's fine about it as long as she can dictate to him what he can say and what he can't say  ::)

We've talked on msn like maybe 4 times...  and most of it hasn't even been about any of this.  ???

Hmmm, I'm having trouble with this, as she's incapable of talking about anything else.



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 19, 07:45:02
Well, I'm sorry if I just don't worry about silly things like this. It's not worth my time. This is really just about a video game to me. And I don't need anyone to kiss my boo boos... if she turns on me, then oh well... there are plenty of other people in the world. You get what I mean?  :-\

Anita is not dictating what I say. I am perfectly capable of speaking for myself... and frankly, I don't need a person to tell me what I can think, do or say. I have my own brian for a reason, so I can make my own choices. If anyone tried to control me like that, I would definately drop them in a heartbeat... and if she starts doing that, I'll drop her too.

She knows I wrote in here. Though I don't know why her getting mad and turning on me is such a big deal. Isn't that my problem? If she turns on me, then it's something I have to deal with, not anyone else. It's not like she could do that much damage to me anyway. She knows nothing of my personal life aside from me having some parrots. If what you guys say is true, she's losing her power anyway, so... yeah. That's why I just don't worry about these things. It's too much to stress over. Besides, it's just a video game... I have a real life that needs more of my attention. That is really what I should be stressing over.

It's late here, so I won't be back until tommorow night if you still want to discuss anything. Later.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: celligirl on 2008 June 19, 15:04:29
Pardon me for butting in. :) I don't know Atwa, have never had contact with her, have never been burned by her, etc. But it seems to me that a lot of people have been burned, and some of what she has said, behind their backs, has been vicious. And what people here are trying to do is simply to warn you. Yes, you're a big boy and can take care of yourself, but I tend to see these people's advice and warnings as the same as, say, advising someone against experimenting with drugs. As in that situation, one can see the disaster looming on the horizon if you keep going along the path you're following. Yes, if what they're saying might happen does happen, then it will be your problem to deal with. But wouldn't you rather head trouble off at the pass? It is a fact that she is claiming to be your partner in this site. If this is not true, as you say, then at the very least you'd probably do well to address her about this now.

And yes, this is a video game. Partly. The other part is that it's a community. One made up of people. People who, by your own admission, can be nasty. Now, maybe you can keep yourself and your feelings separate from what members of the community say and do and continue to do what you do regardless of what's going on in said community. If so, that's great. From what I've seen of what Atwa has said about people she's decided she doesn't like...Well, I'd say I really hope that truly is what you can do, should you choose to continue to associate with her.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 June 19, 19:59:03
Well, I'm sorry if I just don't worry about silly things like this. It's not worth my time. This is really just about a video game to me. And I don't need anyone to kiss my boo boos... if she turns on me, then oh well... there are plenty of other people in the world. You get what I mean?  :-\

Anita is not dictating what I say. I am perfectly capable of speaking for myself... and frankly, I don't need a person to tell me what I can think, do or say. I have my own brian for a reason, so I can make my own choices. If anyone tried to control me like that, I would definately drop them in a heartbeat... and if she starts doing that, I'll drop her too.

She knows I wrote in here. Though I don't know why her getting mad and turning on me is such a big deal. Isn't that my problem? If she turns on me, then it's something I have to deal with, not anyone else. It's not like she could do that much damage to me anyway. She knows nothing of my personal life aside from me having some parrots. If what you guys say is true, she's losing her power anyway, so... yeah. That's why I just don't worry about these things. It's too much to stress over. Besides, it's just a video game... I have a real life that needs more of my attention. That is really what I should be stressing over.

It's late here, so I won't be back until tommorow night if you still want to discuss anything. Later.

So, basically you're asking her to use you and if she does and turns on you, who cares, right?  It's disappointing that you have such a laissez-faire attitude to what Atwa is capable of doing to your reputation in this community.  Although really you didn't have the best one to begin with, it doesn't help to have your name and hers in the same sentence and yes, even if what people are saying that she is saying turns out to be untrue.  (We have yet to see screenshots of her saying this stuff.)  It may just be a gaming community but I doubt very much you joined with the intention to become someone's pawn.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 June 19, 21:14:58
missangelica, then you are one of the better people in this world, but even I have trouble fighting fire with sugar, sunshine, kisses and butterflies. Sometimes I like to use a mace, land mines, super glue and a pit of snakes.  :)
I usually step out of the situation. There are very few things that matter enough to get all worked up about them. If it is worth it, I'm all about the blunt objects.

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I do appreciate the warnings about her, but let me find out for myself. I'm stubborn, so if it's true, then naturally I will have to learn this the hard way. If she turns on me, I guess I'll just join the crowd over here eh? Buy myself a pirate hat, say Arr! and drink imaginary rum until I'm green in the face. If I catch scurvy, then aparently I did something wrong. lol
See ya in a bit, then. Just remember to eat an orange every once in awhile, and you'll be fine.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 19, 21:46:02
I just wish you'd all get what I am really trying to say here. Anita and I are not 'close'. That's why I don't worry about something like this. As I've said, we've only talked sparingly. It's not to the extent that you all are seeing it to be. We have much the same relationship as we did at TSR... meaning SA + Artist Manager. It's a very non-personal relationship. Most of it is just sharing new things we've made, sharing textures, and that sort of thing. That's the reason why I'm not worried about it, because I do not 'bond' with people from the internet for the most part. I know the dangers that can become of it, much to the tune of what you're saying.

Is that a slight better explaination? It's not so much that I 'don't care'... it's more like what celligirl said. I keep my online life and personal life very separate. I only tell things to online people that I wouldn't care if anyone knew... For example, one of my birds was killed about 6 days ago. I told Anita about that. Just for the record, it was a baby Eclectus parrot we'd been hand-feeding for months, and our dog broke out of it's gate and attacked it  :'( . That's information I would tell anyone. I'm not even afriad to say that I'm adopted and have a different last name than my parents. (I have my birth mother's last name.)

I make it a point to tell only very trusted individuals about my actual life. A few community members know what I do for a living, and two even know my address and phone number. Those individuals I trust, and so far my trust has been very well placed. Also, if I do indeed give out that information, I always make it a trade. They have to tell me theirs too. It keeps them from leaking personal things when they know you have something personal of theirs to tell. It's really a good tip for any internet user to remember. If a person asks for your address but isn't willing to give you theirs in return, you should not give them that information.

One more detail I would like to add is that even if someone slanders me over the internet or elsewhere, I'm not likely to do the same back to them. I try to respect everyone, despite what they've said / done to me.

I know my reputation here is aweful, but I'm not going to destroy others' reputations out of spite. If I may so inlclude that by what has been discussed here, if true, that is the pattern Anita follows. Get hurt and be hurt. I would rather take on the pain myself without distributing it onto others. I can agree on some bad things that were said about me around here actually. I can't say that I blame anyone for saying I look like a girl... because I do have long hair (very long hair now), and I do dye it. I wear black makeup sometimes, and paint my nails black... not to mention my eyelashes are quite pretty... *insert girly giggle here* Now that I've gotten away from the red hair, it's not so bad. My hair is black again now. I look like a mix between Ozzy and an emo boy.  ???

I agree also that I did a bad thing with Delphy, and am sorry for letting the pedophile shock get ahold of me. When anyone hears that word, its not going to exactly make them happy. I just didn't think... not until after I heard Delphy's side, which by then it was too late to save. Just one of the many things I regret doing in my life.

With the poetry, well, that's just a way I vent without taking it out on someone else. If I hold it in rather than writting it, I become an entirely different person. I get really pissy and unbearable to be around.  :-\

Just to reassure everyone that Anita isn't involved with my website, I'm changing it's name and layout, and I'm not telling it to anyone. You'll just have to guess at which site is mine when it opens.  :)

A tip... don't always believe everything. Not even screenshots. Those can be edited quite easily. Unless you have the conversation, or otherwise open yourself... it's probably not true. Even logs and transcripts can be edited... just be selective.

Essay ended.  ;D



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: BobbinRobbin on 2008 June 19, 22:05:32
Hmmm...well, I'm going to divulge a interesting conversation I had with Riverwillows. After her last post, I pm'd her and we talked a bit. She also keeps her online life, and personal life separate. Didn't matter. As near as she can tell, the real reason Atwa hates her, is when they were in the TC last year, Atwa was very friendly towards her, but there was one or two times she didn't agree with somthing Atwa said, and nicely posted so. Atwa responded nicely back, and they agreed to disagree, then it seemed they were still friendly. And that apparently lasted throughout the whole resulting hoopla with the TC and the mods, with Atwa being oh so friendly and supportive to her and all the others.

What River didn't know, was the whole time Atwa was bad mouthing her specifically to all the FA's and some SA's, saying she was a pirate, and other bad things, etc. And as near as River can figure, she didn't really do anything to Atwa....except disagree with her on a few very minor unrelated points. Apparently, it was enough, and next she knew, she was being talked about in forums. It still kinda puzzles her, as the disagreements were private, and personal, and seemed to be resolved friendly like. And they weren't even major issues, just small things. River only found out about Anita badmouthing her, because she actually stated to get emails from other people (Anita supporters) that weren't nice. Was a shock to her.

So, what I guess I'm trying to say, is it doesn't matter whether you keep things separate, it's your online/sims community rep that will get trashed and bad mouthed. And since you plan to be a regular contibutor to the sims community, you might want to just be a bit cautious, as sadly, there are tons of sheeple out there who don't know Atwa the way we do, and WILL believe any bad things she says as gospel. And cause you uneeded hassle.

It's just that we do actually care, Shey, in our own way.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 19, 22:20:09
I know, and I'm being careful. I may not be religious, but I believe that everything happens for a good reason. If something goes really whack... I'll know it was to teach me a good life lesson in the end.  :)

I am still a teen, so I've got alot to learn yet. Thanks for listening to me and trying to help.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 June 19, 22:21:36
So I picked up one of the small local papers to read on the bus ride home this afternoon, and ran across this little blurb.

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Here's something you don't hear every day. A 41-year-old woman in Stockholm has been accused of raping a 30-year-old man after she took him home from the pub and, according to the story in Aftonbladet newspaper, "performed oral sex on him against his will."

Does the fact that Atwat sprang immediately to my mind make me a bad person?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 June 19, 22:24:19
Depends. Were you mugging someone at the time?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 19, 22:35:45
She's older than that though...

And a woman raping a man? Oral against his will? Not to be perverted, but what guy would turn that down??? lol


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 June 19, 22:45:32
Sheyza:  Eh, I've said my piece.  Just try thinking about it before fully discarding what we've said, ok?  Like Roundrobin said, it's not coming from a bad place.

And yes, I have said previously that you do look like a girl from the one picture I've seen of you that you used on mts2.  It wasn't meant as a diss but rather just my observation and it sticks out in my mind when your name is brought up.  Androgyny seems all the rage these days.. you have a leg up on other guys when it comes to the laydeez.  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 June 19, 22:51:11
And a woman raping a man? Oral against his will? Not to be perverted, but what guy would turn that down??? lol

Richard Simmons?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 19, 23:00:12
Richard Simmons???

He's gay, that's different. Gay with the most hideous afro puffy brown dead chia rat thing on his head. lmao

I'm not being homophobic... just incase I offended someone. Wasn't a gay joke.  :-X


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: celligirl on 2008 June 19, 23:03:50
Waitaminnet? Are you saying gay men don't like oral sex?? Not according to my gay guy friends... ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 June 19, 23:06:30
Well, the excerpt didn't say if the man was gay or not but if he was, she's obviously not the gender he wants to get them from.  Although I do know some gay guys that would say if they closed their eyes it wouldn't matter.. XD

Poor guy.  I wonder if he squealed, "DO NOT WANT," while getting his unwanted hummer..


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 June 19, 23:17:33
Exactly, there was no mention of preference. I thereby stand by my nomination of said homo for not wanting.

FYI, unwanted hummer is an oxymoron.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 19, 23:26:14
He was probably having an internal fight with himself...

His mouth is saying "No!"

But his brain says... mmmm....  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 June 19, 23:35:35
Brain??  It's been my experience that the brain has little influence at those times. It basically just maintains life support systems until it's needed again. Sometimes longer.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 June 20, 00:06:48
For the record, I don't care about if you suffer or not as a result of your friendship with Atwa.  I'm just using logic.

I just wish you'd all get what I am really trying to say here.

If you think it's tough to merely get rid of this rumour - boy are you going to find it tough if she does actually say something nasty.

And a woman raping a man? Oral against his will? Not to be perverted, but what guy would turn that down??? lol

Ah, the thoughtless folly of youth.  Some men are raped - it's not a pleasant thing.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 20, 00:12:52
But a man... rape... something has to get it 'up', so obviously he'd have to like something... but bleh... just crazy weird and confusing. At least I got to laugh about it for a few seconds.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 June 20, 00:19:19
But a man... rape... something has to get it 'up', so obviously he'd have to like something... but bleh... just crazy weird and confusing. At least I got to laugh about it for a few seconds.

Well, for a start, there is a way to give a man an erection without his will - men with paraplegia can have erections with a special pressure spot on the back, and it can be as crude as electrocuting that area, which doesn't feel good for the man, but produces an erection.  Sexual arousal doesn't mean that there is any kind of desire involved, otherwise young men would not have embarassing hardons when they least want them. 

Women lubricate too when being raped - that doesn't mean that they want it - that is a natural bodily response.  Not quite as chuckleworthy to me to think of it though.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 20, 00:25:12
Wow... that is really interesting stuff, and a good point too. What is paraplegia?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 June 20, 00:50:53
It's when your legs don't "work" anymore (or never worked) and you're on a wheelchair. Legs are insensible and would not react to any meccanic stimuli, can't move them, can't feel a thing.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 20, 00:52:29
Oh, well that makes alot more sense to me now, and I learned something new.  :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Ensign EO on 2008 June 20, 00:54:58
I was just going to say, anyone can get raped, regardless of sex, age, orientation, or appearance.  :-\  It doesn't matter whether the guy was gay or straight--he didn't want to have sex with that woman.  I'm straight--I would reject sex, even oral sex, from any male who isn't my boyfriend.  Of course, I'm female, so I guess people are more willing to accept that I've been raped than they would be if it was a man who was raped.

I don't really understand the whole "Hur, what straight guy would turn down a blow job" line of thinking, even if it's facetious.  Not every guy is a hopeless horndog who wants to screw every woman he sees, nor does it mean there's no such thing as raping a male.  And like Calalily said, just because you get aroused doesn't mean you want it.  :-\


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 20, 02:01:35
Yeah, we came to that conclusion a while ago. I understand it now, but I still find it slightly weird... since you don't hear of it often. It just makes you go  ???.

And no, not all guys are that hopeless, but many are. I was making a joke about males in general.

This reminds me of a police study I read some months ago... it stated that the group most targeted by rapists are long-haired blonde women between the ages of 19-25. It also said that most who get raped don't go to the police... so how can they really know then, if that group is indeed the most targeted. Maybe they are just the most likely to tell. Just something to chew on, though unpleasant this topic...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 June 20, 02:08:58
And no, not all guys are that hopeless, but many are. I was making a joke about males in general.

I'm sure all rape victims find your joke hi-larious.  ::) Male rape (a particular problem for gay men incidentally) is seriously underreported, as they fear the scorn evidenced by your "joke" about how men may not want to have sex with everyone. Not to mention that I'm sure all men love to hear someone say that they are merely penis centric with no standards or choices - hell they'd do dogs and kids if we left them to it.

This reminds me of a police study I read some months ago... it stated that the group most targeted by rapists are long-haired blonde women between the ages of 19-25. It also said that most who get raped don't go to the police... so how can they really know then, if that group is indeed the most targeted. Maybe they are just the most likely to tell.

Because data is gathered from other sources, such as hospitals and rape crisis centres and other areas not police. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 20, 02:40:38
Not to mention, rape is embarassing. I'm sure that's a reason why men don't say anything about it. Not just men, but any victim. If it happened to me, I wouldn't say anything about it either, for that reason. That study actually said something about that too... I wish I could remember where I found it. Someone actually emailed it to me as some-what of a chain letter... saying to pass it on to any women you know. It gave locations for places with high rape numbers, tips to prevent yourself from being raped, and all kinds of useful stuff. I can remember a few other things it said:

Rapes mainly occur at night, in parking lots or any deserted dark area.

Don't just sit in your car. Lock your doors, make sure the windows are up.

And the last thing I remember exactly what it said: "Be aware of your surroundings. It's better to be paranoid than dead."

When my grandmother died last year, my mom and aunt were talking... I found out that my mother had been raped by her own father at 16 while grandma was at work. She never told anyone until then, not even her sisters. She said she was embarassed, but even more embarassed for waiting until grandma died to mention it. Why do you think that is?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 June 20, 02:55:02
And the last thing I remember exactly what it said: "Be aware of your surroundings. It's better to be paranoid than dead."

This does not sound like a police study - sounds like a fact sheet.

She said she was embarassed, but even more embarassed for waiting until grandma died to mention it. Why do you think that is?

Why do you think it is - because complete jerks like you make light of men as being nothing more than penises on legs (ha! of course he had a go - she's a woman isn't she - I'll stick my dick anywhere) and because you talk about this casually as if you've never heard that other people have things like feelings.  Your mother was embarassed about it because she was raped by her father for goodness sake - have you no empathy for what that must feel like? I don't feel comfortable discussing this with you as you have the emotional depth of a tadpole -  I mean seriously what the fuck is wrong with you? Your mother was raped by her father and was trapped in a house with him for at least another couple of days/weeks/months/years - and had no one to talk to about this, and worse still, even her own family don't understand what she went through, and talk about it casually on a forum like it's nothing.

And by the way, you may think that you're being all cool, calm and emo, but really, you're coming off as an insensitive egocentric jerk with the emotional maturity of a toddler.  >:(


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dita on 2008 June 20, 02:58:49
I hardly ever post here but I can't shut up on this one.


Quote
Rapes mainly occur at night, in parking lots or any deserted dark area.

Complete crap! Rapes mainly occur within victims' circle of friends and/or family, not by strangers jumping out of a bush at night. As a woman, you're most at risk from your own partner. I know that sounds horrible, but unfortunately it's true. And the real 'fun' thing about this fact is that a lot of people won't even accept that it's still rape if you happen to be in a relationship with the asshole who abuses you! No, I'm not so pissed off because it's happened to me - it hasn't thank goodness. But I know people.

As for the shame part: Might the common assumption that women are just 'asking for it' because of how they dress/talk/behave have something to do with it? Or basically having to 'prove' that you were raped and haven't just 'changed your mind'? You know, I remember spending a morning at a police station with a friend. They asked her the most disrespectful questions, justifying everything with "you know, some people make such claims". I couldn't help but wonder if they'd be asking that after her home just got burgled. Conviction rates for rape are outrageously low.

Edit:
Why do you think it is - because complete jerks like you make light of men as being nothing more than penises on legs (ha! of course he had a go - she's a woman isn't she - I'll stick my dick anywhere) and because you talk about this casually as if you've never heard that other people have things like feelings.

Thanks! Couldn't agree more!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 20, 03:11:24
Of course I feel bad for her. I wasn't saying what I did to hurt anyone or because I'm insensitive. I was just wondering why she waited until my grandma was dead to mention it to anyone. You missunderstood me. I guess the emotional tradgedy of grandma dying brought it out of her, hell, I don't really know. Sorry if I offended you somehow, if you were ever raped.

And Dita, you make a good point. Actually, most of the rapes I've heard of have been by family members, friends, etc... I just wrote in what the 'police' study said. This was sent to me, I didn't write it.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Ensign EO on 2008 June 20, 03:24:54
Because your grandmother was married to him.  If your grandmother didn't know about it, your mother probably didn't want to tell her that her husband raped his daughter.  It can be very difficult to admit things to a parent, and given the circumstances, I can see how difficult it could be for her.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 June 20, 03:26:55
Of course I feel bad for her. I wasn't saying what I did to hurt anyone or because I'm insensitive. I was just wondering why she waited until my grandma was dead to mention it to anyone. You missunderstood me. I guess the emotional tradgedy of grandma dying brought it out of her, hell, I don't really know. Sorry if I offended you somehow, if you were ever raped.

I don't have to have been raped to find what you said offensive.  I actually understand the feelings of others - ie that they have them and that I don't treat things as flippantly as you do. I find it offensive for all the silent lurkers who will read this and wonder what the fuck is wrong with you, or worse, what the fuck is wrong with them.

Whether you were meaning to be insensitive, or just plain are insensitive matters not.  You certainly write like an insensitive jerk, and you certainly don't understand others feelings without the prism of "it hasn't happened to me".  If you had one ounce of empathy you wouldn't write things like this:

I was just wondering why she waited until my grandma was dead to mention it to anyone.
I guess the emotional tradgedy of grandma dying brought it out of her, hell, I don't really know.
Sorry if I offended you somehow, if you were ever raped.

And by the way, that lack of personal information that you give out online that you so boldly proclaimed a couple of pages back - you've just given a whole lot of highly personal information out even if you don't mention names.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 June 20, 03:39:43
Of course I feel bad for her. I wasn't saying what I did to hurt anyone or because I'm insensitive. I was just wondering why she waited until my grandma was dead to mention it to anyone.

Possibly to keep peace in the family. Also, it's not uncommon for many women to put the well-being of other family members before their own, so maybe she thought she was shielding her own mother. Or, like Dita pointed out, she could have been afraid of being held responsible. Maybe it was a combination of all these things. I don't know. All anyone can do here is guess. If you really want an answer you should be asking her and not random strangers on the internet.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dita on 2008 June 20, 03:43:24
I don't have to have been raped to find what you said offensive.  I actually understand the feelings of others - ie that they have them and that I don't treat things as flippantly as you do. I find it offensive for all the silent lurkers who will read this and wonder what the fuck is wrong with you, or worse, what the fuck is wrong with them.

That would be me - as said before: I don't post here much. Except I don't think there's anything wrong with me. There are no excuses for screwing up on this issue in my book, I know I'm not wrong, no matter what the penis owners of this world wish to believe.

Also, it's not uncommon for many women to put the well-being of other family members before their own, so maybe she thought she was shielding her own mother. Or, like Dita pointed out, she could have been afraid of being held responsible.

Just like we're supposed to! Thank you very much, dear men, for allowing us to breathe and to do random stuff like getting pissed of about something on a forum somewhere in between pleasing you! You know, I could puke at the very idea that women are expected to think that way!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Ash Redfern on 2008 June 20, 03:52:07
And a woman raping a man? Oral against his will? Not to be perverted, but what guy would turn that down??? lol
It is called standards. Male does not equal mindless pervert.  It is rather annoying to hear such jokes about how guys would pretty much do any female, negating actual important matters that many guys actually do care about, such as actually being in love with the individual one is being intimate with.

Rather talented to insult both males and females within just a few posts of each other.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zillah on 2008 June 20, 03:53:43
Of course I feel bad for her. I wasn't saying what I did to hurt anyone or because I'm insensitive. I was just wondering why she waited until my grandma was dead to mention it to anyone. You missunderstood me. I guess the emotional tradgedy of grandma dying brought it out of her, hell, I don't really know. Sorry if I offended you somehow, if you were ever raped.

Get a clue

http://www.coolnurse.com/sexual_abuse_adult.htm (http://www.coolnurse.com/sexual_abuse_adult.htm)

http://www.stopitnow.com/s2_survi.html (http://www.stopitnow.com/s2_survi.html)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 June 20, 04:00:09
And by the way, that lack of personal information that you give out online that you so boldly proclaimed a couple of pages back - you've just given a whole lot of highly personal information out even if you don't mention names.

Heh, he doesn't give out personal information about himself but people, namely family, and animals around him seem to be ok to dish on.  :/


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 20, 04:13:47
Well... see now this is where her situation gets very strange...

She had a very strained relationship with her mom, both step and biological. Her and my aunt though, were very very close. Some would think she might confide in her sister, since telling her mother would split up the family... but she chose not to. I think it was so her sister didn't think badly of their father. So she wouldn't be afraid of it hapening to her. My mom took care of my aunt, because their parents wouldn't. Sometimes all they would get to eat was raw flour... and if she asked her dad for a peice of meat that the adults were eating, he would smack her across the floor.

I'm very thankful to my mom for giving me a better life than that. For giving her sister a better life. You see, that same year is when she met my dad, and never looked back. She married my dad, a now retired Marine, at 16 and had my eldest brother. She's a brilliant, and brave woman. I couldn't ask for a better mom. She survived through alot of things most women would crumble over, and she's always made sure none of us ever wanted for anything... and now since they're old and my brothers won't step up and help, I'm paying them back for all the good they've done for me. Instead of running off like my brothers, I'm staying around to take care of them. They're both dissabled. My dad actually is dying of throat cancer... so I'm by no means emotionless... believe me. I'm still a teen, having to watch both of my parents die, and take care of my little brother. I care for them.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Tabby on 2008 June 20, 04:29:29
   Most women and men who experience this horrible crime are made to feel like it is their fault. Like some how they did something wrong. Being in the wrong place at the wrong time, or having a piece of shit for a father, are all excuse that people have used. "If she didn't have that skirt on, she wouldn't have made all the men horny. She was asking for it.", or something completely idiotic like "He's a man, so he must have liked it. Hell, it was free sex!" Even if a person does change their mind, right before he puts it in, it would still be rape. Once you say no, if you are fortunate enough to be able too, they should stop. No matter their gender.

   The problem your mother probably had, is that no matter what kind of dick head your grandfather was, he was still her father. There is an absurd amount of shame and mixed feelings that comes along with being abused by someone who was supposed to protect you from such things. If he was as abusive as you are making him out to be, your grandmother probably wouldn't have left him anyway. Be it shame, disbelief or fear, the likely hood that she would have done anything is low. Most women in that situation are being abused themselves, and for whatever reason they feel if they take the brunt of it; then the abuser will leave the children alone. 

   I personally found your comments offensive not only as an abuse survivor, but as a human being. Your mother has been victimized enough, stop talking about her personal trials on the internet. I understand you are a teenager, and you probably don't have a bunch of experience with tact, but this is not something that should be discussed publicly. If you need to talk about your issues, feel free to PM me, but I think you should let this little incident die and talk about bad paysite finds or something.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 June 20, 04:31:21
That would be me - as said before: I don't post here much. Except I don't think there's anything wrong with me.

I've read the posts of many women who think there's something wrong with them - for their whole lives, and reading stupid shit on the internet placed there with no thought by insensitive dickheads just makes it worse.  

It is called standards. Male does not equal mindless pervert.  It is rather annoying to hear such jokes about how guys would pretty much do any female, negating actual important matters that many guys actually do care about, such as actually being in love with the individual one is being intimate with.

I heart you Ash.   :-* Most of the guys here are good examples of men not being mindless perverts - but most intelligent men anywhere won't reduce themselves to a walking penis either - so there's plenty in the wide world.

Heh, he doesn't give out personal information about himself but people, namely family, and animals around him seem to be ok to dish on.  :/

And lots of it.

I'm very thankful to my mom for giving me a better life than that. For giving her sister a better life. You see, that same year is when she met my dad, and never looked back. She married my dad, a now retired Marine, at 16 and had my eldest brother. She's a brilliant, and brave woman. I couldn't ask for a better mom. She survived through alot of things most women would crumble over, and she's always made sure none of us ever wanted for anything... and now since they're old and my brothers won't step up and help, I'm paying them back for all the good they've done for me. Instead of running off like my brothers, I'm staying around to take care of them. They're both dissabled. My dad actually is dying of throat cancer... so I'm by no means emotionless... believe me. I'm still a teen, having to watch both of my parents die, and take care of my little brother. I care for them.

If you hope to garner sympathy for that and hope to have us ignore your insensitivity, you're wrong.  I've been there, and done that - and had lost both of my parents by the time I was 23 - by which time I had two kids. The fact is that most of that is about your plight - not your parents.  And since you seem to have little understanding of the issues, then you don't know what most women would crumble over.  The fact that you are an egocentric teen is glaringly obvious without you having to tell us.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Feverish on 2008 June 20, 04:45:05
Anyone know of any good dandruff solution?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dita on 2008 June 20, 04:55:55
I'm very thankful to my mom for giving me a better life than that. For giving her sister a better life. You see, that same year is when she met my dad, and never looked back.

You see, I don't know your mom but I severely doubt that she never looked back. Experiences like these tend to haunt people for years if not forever! As I said before: I'm glad I have no personal experience of rape - but I know more than enough people who do. My roomie was raped when I was in my early twenties. I was the one who picked her up from where it happened, the one who went through everything with her.

And then years later she apologized to me for 'putting me through this'. She felt sorry for me, not herself! I never even felt as though I was going through anything. And I certainly don't think I'd have had a better life if she'd suffered in silence. I just hate how women are basically expected always to put the interests of everyone and the neighbour's dog before their own - even when they clearly need to put themselves first for a change. Basically we're being lauded for treating ourselves like shit after others have done so. No thanks! [insert pukey smiley here]

That would be me - as said before: I don't post here much. Except I don't think there's anything wrong with me.

I've read the posts of many women who think there's something wrong with them - for their whole lives, and reading stupid shit on the internet placed there with no thought by insensitive dickheads just makes it worse.
Same here! Which is why I'm sufficiently pissed off to stop lurking right now.


And as for the dandruff: Rinsing with vinegar says my mom. And mom always knows best!  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Sheyza on 2008 June 20, 06:13:16
I wasn't trying to get sympathy. I just wanted you to see that my mom IS a very good woman, and it's because she does love me, and she made sacrifices just so I could live and be happy someday into my adulthood. Any woman that does that has alot of guts, and I don't care who knows that bit of my personal life. Because, and hear me out, I Am Proud Of My Mom.

I don't need your sympathy, or your smart attitudes. You can sit here and bitch about me, Anita, and anyone else you damn well please, but know this, we don't care about a damned thing you people say, and we don't need your "approval" to be good, decent respectful human beings. So go ahead, complain about me all you want to, but at least some other person isn't suffering over what your saying. It's me, the cold, emotionless individual that you see right here. I don't need to leach the feelings out of people to feel secure in myself. Do YOU not care about other's feelings? Aparently fucking not. I've about had it with playing nice and acting like I actually like you people. Truth is, I can't stand you. You can go ahead, diss my post, diss me, say any damn thing you want. I'm so tired of seeing you 'mature' people tear away at other humans that you don't even know, just to get a few good kicks. Just look at how bad you ate away at all these individuals. And I guess you acomplished your goal didn't you?

I hear all these decent people, ranting to me, confiding in me, making me help them deal with the emotional problems that you people cause for them. Atwat? You are calling a 50 something year old woman a female genital, and I am the emotionless one here? Fuck no. And you people fed off of Aikea's pain when she left TSR too. Watching all of this like it's a sideshow. She was very emotional over that time, and you people fed on it like hungry dogs. Preying on her feelings. What the hell is wrong with YOU?

You can call me a troll, and frankly you can answer to this post all god damn day long until you fall asleep at your keyboard. I don't really care, because you're not worth my time for me to even come back and read your inane ranting. I've already wasted two days of my life in here, talking about god knows what, that doesn't even have to do with the Sims at all. This is a community for people to talk about the Sims. Not a community where you can tear people down piece by piece until your head explodes with laughter by making someone else feel bad. I'm tired of watching people take this crap.

Go ahead, reply. Reply all day. Call me a jerk, call me emotionless, call me any thing you want. Make me suffer and leave these other people the hell alone! I'm not going to read a damned one of your meaningless posts. I'm not going to loose any sleep over this. In fact, now I feel much better telling you people how I've really thought these years. Get over yourselves.

There, now you have something juicy to talk about. Shey blew the hell off at PMBD. Wooo fuckin' whooo. Happy? Is this the kind of shit you like? Huh? Now you've got something to talk about for awhile. Bitch at me. Go ahead. Since I'm emotionless it won't fucking hurt.

And you know what? I might just open up a site with Anita now. Yeah, it will be called "PMBD - Sucks Ass". Where all the pay creators can go and talk shit about you. Then we'll see how much YOU like it.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: moondance on 2008 June 20, 06:27:13
Interesting turn of the thread, there.
I do have personal experience with rape, having been on the receiving end. I've also spent a lot of time with abuse victims. Personally, I didn't find Sheyza's attitude or words offensive, but then, I'm a pretty easy-going person.

Sheyza, some reasons your mother might have kept quiet for so long is this: Being raped is plenty traumatic all on its own.  Since the rapist was her father, if she told her story, the result might have been (probably would have been) just more trauma.  Family freaks out.  The risk of not being believed.  The risk that she might be believed but then nothing would be done (and I've seen this happen--some mothers suck.) That the best possible outcome was that she would be believed, and something would be done, and then everyone would know, and think of that every time they thought of her--which shouldn't be a big deal, but to a teenage girl, can definitely be a huge deal.  If the rape was a one-time thing, and not ongoing and repeated, it might have just been easier for her--at least at first--to just keep quiet, and try to keep life "normal."  Some people in a sort of emotional shock get hysterical, but others just retreat into themselves, at least for a while, to try and sort out what's happened to them--that's what I do.  There is also sometimes a weird sense with this sort of thing that once you SAY it, you make it just that much more real; someone else knows, and you can't take it back and pretend it never happened.  So long as you keep quiet,  you can pretend to yourself that you have the OPTION of acting as if it never happened.  I don't know if any of this applied to her, but any of it could have.  

Also, btw, I understand what you meant about how she "never looked back."  That's sort of how I feel about it.  It happened, but I don't feel like the walking wounded because of it or anything.  There are bad people in the world, and one of them got way too close to me.  Life goes on.





Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Markus on 2008 June 20, 06:33:16
*Starts inane ranting*

Woah...wait a minute wasn't it Sheyza doing the inane ranting?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Scurvy Wench on 2008 June 20, 06:40:40
Remember children, don't lick the troll.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 June 20, 07:00:10
I wasn't trying to get sympathy.

And notice, you didn't get much.

Quote from: Sheyza
I Am Proud Of My Mom.

He exclaimed after sharing her rape story with complete strangers on the internet!!

Quote from: Sheyza
I've about had it with playing nice and acting like I actually like you people. Truth is, I can't stand you.

It stings.

Quote from: Sheyza
I hear all these decent people, ranting to me, confiding in me, making me help them deal with the emotional problems that you people cause for them.


Seriously, these people are confiding in a flouncy teenage emo for emotional support? 

Quote from: Sheyza
You are calling a 50 something year old woman a female genital, and I am the emotionless one here?


That is the funniest thing you’ve posted since you came here pretending to like us.

Quote from: Sheyza
There, now you have something juicy to talk about. Shey blew the hell off at PMBD.

No wait, this is funniest thing you've posted since coming here pretending to like us. Get over yourself.

Quote from: Sheyza
And you know what? I might just open up a site with Anita now. Yeah, it will be called "PMBD - Sucks Ass". Where all the pay creators can go and talk shit about you. Then we'll see how much YOU like it.
 

Will we have to pay? I mean, if it’s about us….



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Witchboy on 2008 June 20, 07:12:05
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Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: mando on 2008 June 20, 07:13:00

Quote from: Sheyza
And you know what? I might just open up a site with Anita now. Yeah, it will be called "PMBD - Sucks Ass". Where all the pay creators can go and talk shit about you. Then we'll see how much YOU like it.
 

Will we have to pay? I mean, if it’s about us….



Besides, seriously, there's 10 sites like that already; it hasn't broken my heart yet...I guess my heart really is made of stone. :(


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: strix on 2008 June 20, 09:17:55
Wow. Add that to the list of... oooh, how many paysiters who hate the Pirates with a passion? I'm sure one more will make all the difference  ::)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: pixelated on 2008 June 20, 10:31:37
O lawd.

Sheyza, chill. You come here, "pretending to like us" and miss the fact that this forum has over 3000 members and probably even more lurkers. Most of those, including me, couldn't care less about your personal business, we're just here because we hate paysites. Then you have a disagreement with one or two of us, and suddenly you're threatening us with opening a site with Atwat to defame all of us. To... eh... piss us off?  Because, you know, that makes sense.  ::) Whoever called you immature was spot on, it seems. Suddenly I understand why you and her go well together.

I don't know what kind of forums you are used to, but don't expect to be immune to people attacking you if you do something they feel is wrong. That's how things work around here, even for old members - we don't shut up if we disagree with something. Not everyone likes that, and it's fine. But taking it personally like this seems like something you wouldn't do. I mean, judging from what you said earlier, you don't care much about the drama or if people backstab you, because it's only about a game. If being told that it's not appropriate to share your mother's secrets online (to people you just pretend to like, no less) upsets you this much, how do you think you'll feel if someone you actually like and trust start turning against you?

Ah well, seems paysiters will be paysiters. Any excuse to stay ignorant of the paysite debate is a good one, right?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 June 20, 11:08:16
you're not the sharpest crayon in the box for sure...ever wonder why Atwat likes you so much...cause you are just stupid enough to get sucked in and believe her delusional stories....and you are just immature and stupid enough to do her bidding....you both deserve each other...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: MissBlondie on 2008 June 20, 11:36:48
Anyone know of any good dandruff solution?

My favorite are Neutrogena TGel and Head&Shoulders. They both come in a pretty wide range (dry to greasy, special long, sensitive scalp...) Head&Shoulders is cheaper than the other one but I prefer Neutrogena.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 June 20, 12:55:13
You're doing it wrong, you don't pretend to like someone, lie through your teeth and then admit it, you stupid boy, has atwat taught you nothing?

Here's how it goes   ::)

First you pretend to like someone, lie through your teeth, then never admit you're anything but nice, you never admit in public you're an asshole.

All badmouthing must be done via mail or PM, to everyone on your mailing list. do it publically on a forum, there is no way out, do it in private because when you upset people and they start blabbing your wicked lies, you can go to plan A or B of denial. Plan A ='they're all liars', (if they have screens, refer to plab B= 'That screen's a fake')

Sympathy post was good, but not perfect, you failed to blame someone for your personal issues, this leads to a failiure on your part to get your sympathisers to direct their anger to someone you don't like. Also there was no alternative goal for the sympathiser to aim for, adding a simple sentance like 'this is making me ill' or if this carries on I will be hospitalised' will let your sympathisers know if they don't show sympathy or attack the person you claim is responsable for your feelings, something bad will happen and it will be their fault.

You also needed to add a good scenario for your sympathisers, successful sympathisers will need a percieved reward, of course you never have to actually give them anything, but making them think they will gain by sympathising with you will encourage them to act on your behalf. try offering them a high position on your new website, or even a paid job. By the time they realise it's not gonna happen, you will have new sympathisers to replace them. Get rid of the old used sympathisers and don't forget to use either plan A or plan B of denial for damage limitation.

There was no need to add the bit about the family member with throat cancer, we won't find that amusing, if you want to crack jokes, atwat finds that sort of thing hilarious, we would just feel sad for the person who has it. she is the one more likely to forward it around with a witty comment, so make her day and mail her the details, using the subject heading of : keep this just between us please.

You're idea for a site has been done before, a site offering shitty content, run by atwat, Where all the pay creators can go and talk shit about PMBD and freesites has already been done. you can find that here:
www.thesimsresource.com (http://www.thesimsresource.com) Try to think of something new and exciting.

Do all of the above and you will be ready for your first minion, you can get your minion to post your denials for you, so you wont have to do it yourself, you can sit on your ass and bark orders via mail/IM/PM.  For an example of how to get a minion to do your bidding, check through your own IM history and mailbox for recieved mails from atwat and study content.

Hope this helps.


ETA: I know we shouldn't help the trolls, but I felt sorry for him..He sounds so small


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 June 20, 12:59:24
Wow, Sheyza.  12, are we?

This mindless self-disclosure is insulting to your family and to those of us who choose to read it.

Ya know, it's not ALL ABOUT YOU.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sheehaz on 2008 June 20, 13:19:49
Awww guys lay off sheyza. SHE has a lot of issues that SHE has to deal with within HERSELF. I kind of feel sorry for HER because SHE doesn't even know who SHE is, and tries to come here and tell everyone else about themselves. Isn't that right sheyza? You talk about respect, but then you lie out of your face?!  ???


Sorry for jumping in out the blue but if it's two things I can't stand it's a liar and a hypocrite.  :-\


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Steerpike on 2008 June 20, 13:52:38
Wait, what? He's a girl? Now I'm really confused  :-\


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 June 20, 14:38:18
I just wanted you to see that my mom IS a very good woman, and it's because she does love me, and she made sacrifices just so I could live and be happy someday into my adulthood.

Well, way to put her most sensitive secret on the internet for people you perceive as nasty peices of work to tear down.  You prince.  ::)

Do YOU not care about other's feelings? Aparently fucking not.

I don't care about your feelings if it means sacrificing lots of women who are unsure about their very core being in favour of not telling you off.  And again, egocentric much?  Out of all this, you are apparently the one with the biggest hurt - or rather butthurt.

There, now you have something juicy to talk about. Shey blew the hell off at PMBD.

You can't even hold our attention for 2 pages - after this post, I won't reply again (*unless you return - cause all flouncers do - even if you're just reading this right now without logging in) and it's still the same day for me - I couldn't be bothered gossiping about you.  Believe it or not - you're small potatoes, and hardly the key concern of my world, or anyone else's here.

Yeah, it will be called "PMBD - Sucks Ass". Where all the pay creators can go and talk shit about you. Then we'll see how much YOU like it.

You're too late - there's already one of those.

Anyone know of any good dandruff solution?

Yeah - my sister's a hairdresser so she gave me the poop - anything with coal tar in it.  Coolington uses it - works miracles.  Head n Shoulders dries your hair out.  If you can't get coal tar, anything with teatree oil in it.  :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Tabby on 2008 June 20, 14:39:37
WTF? I am so very confused now. Can anyone explain please?   :'(


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Fainiel on 2008 June 20, 15:07:36
Wow, I go out all day, I miss this. I'm never leaving the house again! *beds down in front of computer with munchies and a diet coke*

If you're dandruff's bad, you can get super strong coal tar shampoo from your doctor (in Britain anyway) it stinks but it works!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 June 20, 15:46:58
WTF? I am so very confused now. Can anyone explain please?   :'(

Not much to explain, Tabby.  After embarrassing himself, a paysite enthusiast flounced out never to be heard from again.

This coal tar dandruff cure smacks of witchcraft. Must it be applied during a certain phase of the moon?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: funkybunk on 2008 June 20, 15:51:30
I have terrible dandruff, myself. Considering I had Cradle Cap until I was 6. XD

But I haven't found anything to work. I've tried Head and Shoulders, TGel, And some generic crap. Well, if it continues still, I'm going to have to make an appointment with a dermatologist.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AnneBonny on 2008 June 20, 16:00:22
And again, egocentric much?  Out of all this, you are apparently the one with the biggest hurt - or rather butthurt.

This. XD

Quite frankly, Sheyza, you're coming across as anything but un-emotional. Rather, you're a bratty kid pretending to be an adult by thinking you are numb to the events happening around him. Sadly, in doing so you become blind on two fronts: blind to the world around him(AKa the Atwat, whom STILL sucks at creating, and now sucks -haha- at giving good head to TomAss) and to his own inner world, unable to grasp reality or his own motives, and he is in chronic terror of both. Hence the little temper tantrums you toss here and there that rivals the best fits thrown by obnoxious two-year olds.

Anyways, what this means simplistic minion of Atwat is that your pretend unemotional or emotionally deficient self causes thy little brain to suffer from a particular kind of a "morally-weak will". Certain emotions are critical for doing and being moved to do what is right and in not doing what one knows is bad(paysites, Atwat relations etc). And this cripples you.

Therefore Welcome to the basic class of Mind-Manipulation 101 taught by Instructor 'craptastic Atwat' herself!  I hear you're her best student. =)


--about the dandruff? Which ever method you choose make sure the shamps contain sulfur, selenium sulfide, or pyrithione zinc. Helps combat it something fierce.  :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: aikea_guinea on 2008 June 20, 16:17:31
And you people fed off of Aikea's pain when she left TSR too. Watching all of this like it's a sideshow. She was very emotional over that time, and you people fed on it like hungry dogs. Preying on her feelings. What the hell is wrong with YOU?

Er, excuse me?  I don't understand what this has to do with anything, especially since, as I recall, that's not even what happened.  Was I emotional?  Yes, but certainly not in the way you're describing.  I was overwhelmed, certainly, but in a very positive way.  All the stress and frustrations that came with constantly being in the middle of the 'paysite debate' were finally melting away.  The hardest part came from the bullshit I had to deal with to get our items on TSR set free, which has nothing to do with anyone on this particular site.  Sounds to me like you're being fed some serious bullshit by Thomas/Anita.

Frankly, I'm appalled by the hypocrisy you've shown these past few days. No one asked you to "pretend" to like anyone (or maybe Anita did), and I really have no idea why you felt like you needed to.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: funkybunk on 2008 June 20, 16:23:47
Aikea FTW.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 June 20, 16:44:35
Hate to say I told you so. Another two or three pages wasted on some liar.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: celligirl on 2008 June 20, 16:45:39
OK, here's what I don't get. Nothing of what Sheyza said RE:rape or joking about men's tendencies (because I realized that he/she was joking) offended me, personally. But what I don't get is why he would air his mother's secret to a bunch of strangers on the Internet, especially when it finally came out that he actually hates our guts. You know, I'll air all my secrets (Raped? Check. Repeatedly gang-raped? Check. Went through rape trial where I was basically told that since I didn't try to escape the situation I was in, I must have wanted what I got? Check.) I'll tell you anything about me because I'm in an emotional place where I can do that, now. But to air other people's secrets, particularly the secrets of people I claim to love? No, no, and no again.

And really, I hate fakiness. If you hate someone or a group of people, don't pretend to like them. I mean, I don't hate pro-paysite people. I disagree with their stand on the paysite issue, of course, but I don't as a general rule hate people, not over something as ultimately trivial as the Sims paysite issue. So, I can have civil, even friendly, conversations with people with whom I disagree. But I would never pretend to be all buddy-buddy and then suddenly turn around an start hating. It's just...rude. I always strive to be WYSIWYG, myself. You hurt a lot fewer people that way.

So, to Sheyza ('cuz I know you're still reading, luv): Say what you mean, mean what you say. It's good life advice. If you don't like a group of people for whatever reason, why on Earth would you try to ingratiate yourself with them? Unless, of course, you were here on a mission or something...

And now...I will end my pointless rambling.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Mheyin on 2008 June 20, 17:07:08
Coming out of lurking status here, because I would just like to say that I was in Shey's corner at first. I also stubbornly insist on finding out for myself how a person really is instead of listening to how everyone else tells me they are. Of course, I listen to their opinion, take it into consideration, and THEN decide for myself whether or not it's true, because let's face it... some people just rub certain people the wrong way, even if they're very nice people. It seems to me, as someone with an outside opinion - having followed along the conversation and not actually being a part of the discussion itself - that people were trying to help you, Shey. They weren't telling you to be careful with Anita as part of a personal vendetta against her, they were telling you their experiences with her out of concern for your feelings. Nobody here wanted to see you get fucked over. We aren't really heartless assholes at all, trust me. Well, except for Pescado, and I know he'll take that as a great compliment, so you're welcome, Pes.  :P Anita has proved herself time and again within this community to be, shall we say, not such a nice person. I know you aren't seeing it because she's been nice to you, and hopefully, she doesn't screw you over the way she screwed over many other people, because for the most part, you seem like a nice person as well. Somewhat mixed-up, perhaps, but overall, you're obviously at least trying to be a nice person and do what you think is right. However, it seems since she's already saying that she's a partner in your site and that it will be pay, despite the fact that you stated otherwise, that she's already stirring up a big pot of shit soup. All I can say is best of luck, with your site, with Anita, and with your other endeavors.

And now for a few random comments:

I wasn't trying to get sympathy. I just wanted you to see that my mom IS a very good woman, and it's because she does love me, and she made sacrifices just so I could live and be happy someday into my adulthood. Any woman that does that has alot of guts, and I don't care who knows that bit of my personal life. Because, and hear me out, I Am Proud Of My Mom.

You should be proud of your mom. She's obviously a strong woman to have survived such a horrible thing, and the fact that she made it through that ordeal in one piece makes ME proud of her too. I know - KNOW - what it feels like to have that happen to you (repeatedly even). And to shed a little bit of light on why she may not have spoken up - even to her sister, whom she's close to - it's very likely that shame and fear played a part. Also, given her propensity to want to protect people, which she is clearly doing with you as her child, she likely didn't want her sister to have that same fear and didn't want her sister to worry that it might happen to her as well. Victims of abuse often feel very maternal toward their siblings, and will do whatever it takes to protect them from harm, especially in a situation where nothing is being done about the abuse (and might I add that that she's passed that quality on to you as well. You can tell by the fact that you're saying we should talk shit about you and leave the other people alone. Personally, I think it's a great trait, even though it does smack of Chris "Leave Britney Alone" Crocker). There's also a very good chance that your grandfather may have threatened her or otherwise used intimidation tactics to convince her to keep her mouth shut, including saying that if she told, he would hurt her again. That is absolutely the way abusers work. He may have also told her that if she told, he would be taken away, and as much as that sounds like it would be a good thing, victims of incest have very confusing feelings about it. On one hand, you would love for the person to be taken away so that you don't have to deal with the abuse, but on the other, that person is still your father or mother or uncle or whoever and you love them whether you want to or not. Plus, what happens when they are taken away? Will your family be mad at you for "destroying the family?" Will you end up homeless if the breadwinner leaves? Also, I'll repeat what someone else said about people KNOWING. That is a horrible thing for victims of abuse. When it happens to you, you want to pretend it didn't. You want to just bury it inside your head and call it a bad dream. You don't want people to know, because people absolutely look at you differently when word gets out. Whether they look at you with contempt or disgust or, worst of all, with pity, they treat you differently, and all you want is normalcy. I'm not sure where you got the impression that anyone thought that your mother was not a good person, however. If I missed that post, someone please direct me to it. As far as I saw, nobody said she was a bad person. They only said you were shitty for bringing it up in a public forum when she obviously was not comfortable enough to bring it up on her own for all these many years, and frankly, I agree with them. Also, I believe you said she brought it up in a family sort of setting, which would indicate that she wouldn't want it to spread outside the family. Regardless of the fact that she most likely is not active in the Sims community, and would not find out that you said something about it, it was wrong of you to bring it up here. It's disrespectful of your mother's wishes.

Also, commenting on the joke about how the hell can a man get raped, it's obviously been explained already how it can happen, but also keep in mind that it's jokes like that that make it less likely for a male victim to come forward. Like someone said, the situation is already humiliating if you're a woman, but when you're a man and it's not "supposed" to happen, it can be even more embarassing.

 
I don't need your sympathy, or your smart attitudes. You can sit here and bitch about me, Anita, and anyone else you damn well please, but know this, we don't care about a damned thing you people say, and we don't need your "approval" to be good, decent respectful human beings.

Of course you don't need our approval. EVERYONE should be expected to be good, decent, and respectful human beings. Unfortunately, as I mentioned above, Anita has not proven herself to posess any one of those qualities, unless it suits her current agenda. Even then, it's just for show. Oh, I'm sure that in her "normal life" she probably is a good and decent and respectful person, but people often have different personalities behind a computer screen, personalities which are much closer to how they are inside their own heads where they don't have to be good, decent, respectful human beings.

I've about had it with playing nice and acting like I actually like you people. Truth is, I can't stand you.

I'm very curious about why you came here in the first place if you hate us all so much. Really, it makes no sense at all.

I'm so tired of seeing you 'mature' people tear away at other humans that you don't even know, just to get a few good kicks. Just look at how bad you ate away at all these individuals. And I guess you acomplished your goal didn't you?

I think you missed the mark slightly on our goal here. Our goal is to destroy paysites, not people. There are other people in this community whose goal is to destroy people.

I hear all these decent people, ranting to me, confiding in me, making me help them deal with the emotional problems that you people cause for them.

Us telling them that they're doing something wrong (when they ARE doing something wrong, from a legal standpoint) is not what is giving them emotional problems. Any emotional problems they have were clearly pre-existing. They're just throwing hissy fits, akin to a toddler in the grocery store being told "no" by her mother when she reaches for a package of cookies in the aisle. Mommy is the worst person in the entire world at that moment. You've just demonstrated exactly what that looks like. We told you shit you didn't want to hear and disagreed with and you flew off the handle.  And maybe next time someone comes to you - their supposed friend - and MAKES you help them deal with their emotional problems that we somehow managed to give them over the internets, you should do what that mother does and ignore them. If you ignore them, their whining and crying and screaming eventually tapers off to a tiny whimper and then eventually goes away and soon, they're all playing in the sandbox together once again. And I only give that advice to you because it seems (with the use of the words "making you help them") that you have absolutely no interest in their feelings at all, which is interesting seeing as how you just wrote all that shit about how we're heartless, emotionless pricks. Also, I thought that you "don't care about a damned thing {us} people say." If that's the case, why are these people so effed up over us telling them having a paysite is wrong?

Atwat? You are calling a 50 something year old woman a female genital, and I am the emotionless one here? Fuck no.

Once again, she presents herself as a major female genital. We're calling that one as we see it, agree with us or not.

And you know what? I might just open up a site with Anita now. Yeah, it will be called "PMBD - Sucks Ass". Where all the pay creators can go and talk shit about you. Then we'll see how much YOU like it.

If you listen to what Anita has been telling everyone, you're already opening up a site with her. A pay site. And unless it really is a paysite, we won't give a flying fuck. People talk shit about us all the time, it's part of being a pirate. And if it is a paysite, well, then your stuff will be in the Booty and we still probably won't give a flying fuck. Yo ho. Now give us our rum back.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 June 20, 17:14:57
This coal tar dandruff cure smacks of witchcraft. Must it be applied during a certain phase of the moon?

Tis witchcraft.  But just use it regularly and no more problems.  ;D

Er, excuse me?  I don't understand what this has to do with anything, especially since, as I recall, that's not even what happened.  Was I emotional?  Yes, but certainly not in the way you're describing.  I was overwhelmed, certainly, but in a very positive way.  All the stress and frustrations that came with constantly being in the middle of the 'paysite debate' were finally melting away.

Thanks for clearing this up - I thought we mostly said Yay - I know I did, and am glad that we overwhelmed you in a positive way.  Since you seem to be over this a bit more now, I want to double my Yay! (Didn't want to swamp you the first time) and triple it as I have seen your meshes in Bodyshop now, and they are most beauteous. And for Gelyd too - lovely, lovely stuff.

Hate to say I told you so. Another two or three pages wasted on some liar.

No, I saw you duck out - I realised you came to a conclusion.  ;) But I couldn't let thoughtless statements go. Although - not *wasted* - *harangued*.   :D

But what I don't get is why he would air his mother's secret to a bunch of strangers on the Internet, especially when it finally came out that he actually hates our guts.

Because it's all about him.  That's why.  

You know, I'll air all my secrets (Raped? Check. Repeatedly gang-raped? Check. Went through rape trial where I was basically told that since I didn't try to escape the situation I was in, I must have wanted what I got? Check.) I'll tell you anything about me because I'm in an emotional place where I can do that, now.

 :-* You've got guts *and* get up and go - truly admirable.  :-*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 June 20, 17:21:38
I can't say I'm surprised by Sheyza's rant because actually I've been expecting it since he came here.  He let some of the lies he's been told by Atwat spill out.  I am sad that another impressionable person has fallen to Atwat's influence. 

The older I get, the more I understand why people used to say to me, "But you're just a teenager!  You can't possibly understand the scope of this."  As an example, when my boyfriend and I were teenagers, we used to say *rapes you* or *molests you* to each other.  Now in hindsight it sounds incredibly stupid.  If you had told us to stop back then we probably would of just ignored you.  We grew out of it on our own.

I can understand his want to numb himself so he doesn't feel pain but that just makes him ripe to be taken advantage of.  Being numb you may not feel pain but you won't feel joy either.  You also can't empathize with others while you're numb.

So while he hates us, I don't hate him.  I feel like he's a lost lamb and I stand by what I said to him previously.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 June 20, 19:49:54
Ah but he knows what he's doing. Otherwise he wouldn't be hiding behind the "I'm just a teen"-thing repeatedly. Wasted time and effort talking to some liar who allready decided he hated total strangers before he even talked to them.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 20, 20:15:34
Let me preface this post by stating that I know nothing about any of Sheyza's past dealings in the Sims community, whatever they may be. I know his TSR identity, and that's the extent of my knowledge. I've only been actively involved (ie vocal) in the community for a short while, and I often miss out on a lot of the juiciest gossip. Also, let me say that many PMBD posters are some of the most intelligent, articulate and opinionated people that I have ever come upon on the internet, and I love that.

But you know what? I'm going to run the risk of making a lot of people here very mad. Sheyza said some genuinely shitty things that he probably should have reworded or not even said at all, but he wasn't the only one saying things that were completely asinine. The "penis-owners" comment, in particular, got me up in arms. How can we sit here and get all high and mighty about how sexism goes both ways, and then just let that comment go relatively unnoticed? If the term "womb-carriers" had been used to describe women, would we all have been okay with it? Perhaps it was a joke. In that case, the speaker ought to have taken the same advice that many people were giving Sheyza as everything began to go to hell: just watch what you say. Imagine what it would sound like to others, and make sure that you are blatantly, transparently obvious about it when you are cracking a joke. Then, consider if the joke (or comment) is going to be well received by the audience you are writing it for.

And, when Sheyza finally broke down, a small part of me understood why. I don't agree with how he handled it, mind you, but I could see it coming, and not because he is a TSR creator or a friend of Atwa's or whatever. Yes, he made some idiotic comments, and yes, we have every right to tell him that he is wrong. Finally, yes, he reacted very poorly in his anger. But the hostility contained in some of the resulting comments...well, he wasn't the only one who came across looking foolish, in the opinion of someone who read the whole interaction, after the fact.

Having read his earlier posts, I feel that perhaps better results would have been gained by approaching him about it in a different manner. After all, he wasn't posting like our average troll initially. He was more articulate than Sim_Outlaw, for instance, and probably capable of more growth and learning than said moron, if he is approached the right way. That said, I'm still not sure how to process that little rage explosion. It seems the Shey is showing his age. Too bad we weren't able to snare another of those rare but precious underagers who can sometimes behave like they are not. That said, I am not defending Shey's insensitivity, or saying that people shouldn't react however they damn well please when faced with that kind of behavior. He said several things that needed to be put straight. But, he wasn't the only one who acted like an ass. He was just the main focus of the convo and therefore the target of the attention, so hostile, insensitive and even inaccurate comments made by others were essentially ignored.

I have very strong opinions (and a lot of education, both in a classroom setting and in the real world) about sexism, as I am sure many of you do as well. Sexism is the root of a great deal of the discussion that took place here. (Well, that and internet etiquette.) I came in a little late to make most of my opinions known without feeding a dying issue, and, in an unprecedented move by me, I'm going to opt out of that particular aspect of the discussion. If anyone wants to talk to be about how I feel about the topic, just ask. I am normally more than vocal about the issue, but I'm kind of pissed off about other things in this thread, too.

Maybe I just like to be as angry as possible, and don't like to limit myself to one target. ;)

My indignation. Let me show you it.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 June 20, 20:18:20
Hey, guys, just popping in to say sorry about cracking open that giant can of fire-breathing worms. Thought I was just innocently musing aloud, but apparently....

*puts can opener on table and backs up slowly*

Someone put that away, okay? 'Cause I clearly can't be trusted with it. :-[





And about the dandruff thing, my brother swears by Paul Mitchell's "Tea Tree Special" shampoo and conditioner, but it doesn't do a thing for my dad. I think it's one of those things where you just have to try stuff until you find something that works.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Kragey on 2008 June 20, 20:27:24
Besides, seriously, there's 10 sites like that already; it hasn't broken my heart yet...I guess my heart really is made of stone. :(

Dude, seriously? All I know about are disjointed rants, floating about in blogs and on paysite bitches' websites. If there's a whole site about how much we bite the big one, I'd love to see it.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 20, 20:52:20
And about the dandruff thing, my brother swears by Paul Mitchell's "Tea Tree Special" shampoo and conditioner, but it doesn't do a thing for my dad. I think it's one of those things where you just have to try stuff until you find something that works.

Is that the wonderful, wonderful stuff that comes in the squat hunter green bottle (or at least used to), smells very strongly of mint and makes your whole head tingle? It's like scalp-crack, that. Love it. But...I don't know if it actually does anything for dandruff, I just know it's quite pleasant to use.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 June 20, 20:58:53
The bottle sounds right. I've never used the stuff (my skin hates tea tree oil) so I can't tell you how it feels.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Redikolous on 2008 June 20, 21:20:35
My fiance used to love that stuff.  Didn't do anything for his dandruff though.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 June 20, 21:48:00
Ah but he knows what he's doing. Otherwise he wouldn't be hiding behind the "I'm just a teen"-thing repeatedly. Wasted time and effort talking to some liar who allready decided he hated total strangers before he even talked to them.

I don't think he knows what he is doing at all.

It's easy to be a cynic.  I choose to pity him instead.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Ensign EO on 2008 June 20, 21:55:34
The "penis-owners" comment, in particular, got me up in arms. How can we sit here and get all high and mighty about how sexism goes both ways, and then just let that comment go relatively unnoticed? If the term "womb-carriers" had been used to describe women, would we all have been okay with it?
I had to go look for that comment.  It's almost, almost like "car owner".  Or lung owner.  Slight distinction between "penis on legs" and "penis owner".  I don't know.  It's easy to skip over posts if they are not the target.

Anyway, hindsight's 20/20.  :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 June 20, 22:20:22

I can understand his want to numb himself so he doesn't feel pain but that just makes him ripe to be taken advantage of.  Being numb you may not feel pain but you won't feel joy either.  You also can't empathize with others while you're numb.

So while he hates us, I don't hate him.  I feel like he's a lost lamb and I stand by what I said to him previously.

Very well put, Angelica. You are very astute.  :)
Have some rum.

IMO, Sheyza is a very young person in a very difficult situation (if what he told about his parents is true). Because teens are dealing with many confusing emotions that often are new to them, they sometimes shut down their emotional responses and often come over as emotionally cold and uncaring. Because they do not know how to deal with this very new and distressing information, they will refuse to deal with it altogether. In a way this is understandable, as teens are often not mature enough to deal with things like that (the situation with Sheyza, his mother and her father).

Please note, I'm not saying that all teens are incapable of empathy or that they are insensitive jerks (even if others may think they are), that is just one coping strategy for them. In time they usually become able to deal with emotions better, and as a result will be able to see themselves in other people's shoes. I'm hoping that one day Sheyza will also understand why the situation was so distressing to her mother she didn't tell anyone about it, even her sister.


About dandruff; depends on what is causing it. If your scalp and hair are very greasy, you need a drying shampoo. If you scalp is dry, a drying shampoo will only make it worse.
Ask your hairdresser what s/he would recommend for your hair. If s/he's a trained professional, s/he should be able to recommend products best suited for your scalp.

BTW, the tar shampoo apparently works, my ex-BF God, that's a long time ago! Almost 12 years! I'm old. :'( used to swear by the stuff.


*Having said her piece alia escapes back to summer pastures*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 20, 22:27:35
I don't think he knows what he is doing at all.

It's easy to be a cynic.  I choose to pity him instead.

I have to agree with you there.

The "penis-owners" comment, in particular, got me up in arms. How can we sit here and get all high and mighty about how sexism goes both ways, and then just let that comment go relatively unnoticed? If the term "womb-carriers" had been used to describe women, would we all have been okay with it?
I had to go look for that comment.  It's almost, almost like "car owner".  Or lung owner.  Slight distinction between "penis on legs" and "penis owner".  I don't know.  It's easy to skip over posts if they are not the target.

That's certainly true, but I think the distinction is considerably more slight than you indicate. "Carrier" means basically the same thing as "owner" in a biological sense, and I have a hard time believing that "womb-carrier" wouldn't raise a few eyebrows, if not hackles, in this particular forum. It still pretty much comes across as "womb on legs" (to use your own example) and not in the innocuous sense of lungs, cars, etc. All I meant was that many of us would have been extremely upset to see something like that written, but we were totally willing to ignore "penis-owners," and that seems quite hypocritical to me.

Besides, lungs are neutral territory. Everyone has them. Nobody can say "Well, you have lungs" and mean it as an insult unless they are joking, whereas many of us have been told that a bout of moodiness is "just because you're PMSing." Isn't that pretty much the same as saying "Well, that's because you have a uterus"? Vice versa, a man who claims he is not prone to shows of emotion might be told, "Well, that's because you have a penis." And wouldn't many of us see that as somewhat derogatory, in many contexts? Perhaps that's not the best example. All I'm getting at is the fact that gender and sexuality are hot button topics, and, in the wrong hands, can be used in a misguided attempt at insulting another person, whereas lungs and cars are not. I might say that a friend of mine is gay and mean it in the entirely innocent, honest sense, whereas a bigot might call someone "gay" in an idiotic attempt to insult them. Invoking the image of another person's genitals is often used in such a way even if it isn't always (or even often) true, and that's simply not the case with most other body parts. I don't find it insulting when someone calls me a girl, but I have been called such in a derogatory way. It's part intent and part interpretation. Anyway, I'm digging myself into confusion and mixed examples, and I think you already know what I mean.

I doubt that the poster of the comment (I'm intentionally leaving out names) meant what she said in a nasty way. I was just trying to point out that it's hypocritical to jump all over one person for doing something very similar, while excusing it from others.

But, like you said...hindsight, and alla that.

And yaaay, Alia's here! I've been gone for a bit, so this is the first time I've seen you since I got back. :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: pickles on 2008 June 20, 22:35:46
I've read that tea tree oil can give men enlarged breasts.


discuss!

 :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 20, 22:39:11
Well, I like men quite a bit, but then again, breasts are pretty awesome...

I am conflicted. ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 June 20, 22:45:55
I should try it then ;D Small breasts here, God must have forgotten me a bit when he distributed them. I only got the leftovers.
NB: I iz gurl. So don't jump on me as vicious :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 June 20, 22:52:24
I thought someone had busted that person out as a female, so I'm experiencing some gender confusion about them at the moment. Regardless, if any kid of mine busted out my secret, my deepest darkest hidden soul-shriveling secret on a web board, I would so rip their head off and shit down their neck!!! Yes, we all live with problems and torments and shit that others may not possibly understand, but we choose to tell our own head twisters in our own time! It was not their place to drag it into the light of day.

I've seen, done and experienced things that ought to have killed my very soul, but I survived and went on. Do I still flashback to them given certain stimuli? You bet your sweet fucking ass I do. But I'm not going to sit here and tell you that my sister-in-law's cousin had something so horrendous happen to her that she is unable to speak to this day, because that isn't my place. What is told to me, stays with me. And what I overhear surely doesn't get mentioned. If this idiot wants to know what took their mom so long to mention the happening, then they should ask their mother themselves.

As a matter of totally uncared about trivia, I own one but it's attached to the man I married. Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

As for what we call Atwat, would we rather call her Cunta? I mean, that is another even more derogatory term for the female genitalia, but twat is also slang for "idiot, twerp, git, etc." Make up yer mind asswipe, I don't have all goddamn day!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 June 20, 23:20:41
cunta FTW  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: coconut on 2008 June 20, 23:30:53
Tom was away for 4 days last week. Atwa had already predicted his absence
before the fact, saying he and his wife would be undergoing fertility treatment
after trying for a baby for some considerable time. (It appears that Tommy's
gun fires blanks)

 Curiously this info was deliberately 'leaked' for reasons unknown, she even
went to the lengths of repeatedly emphasising to each recipient how awful it
would be if the pirates got hold of this information, If it is indeed true that
Tom can't get it up, it is very interesting why Anita would want this to get
out. could it be:

 1) She's angry at Tom for not making her new account Beasims into FA

 2) She still holds a grudge for getting canned from her AM job

 3) There is no truth to it and both her and Tom made this up to test leaks
(unlikely - as what man would want it spread around that he only gets hard for
money)

 4) She's no longer in love with him now she knows he couldn't please her in
the way she'd like.

 5) she's jealous of the closeness he has with his wife, who has stood by him
even though he can't raise a smile.

 6) she just cant resist spreading gossip, as its the only thing she can spread
around Tom these days.

 7) she's spreading stuff just because she can...and evidently he cant!

 8) she's jealous that a baby would come between her and Tom and is hitting
back

 9) She knows she can no longer rely on Tom when her batteries run out.

 10) Its her way of kicking him where it hurts, even though that may not apply
anymore.

 Whatever your reasons, Thank you Atwa, and just this once I'll post it for
you, it's as funny as hell.


 Hey shey - 2 words - Shaded_Age, Yes, she told people, you really think she
wouldn't?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: WedgewoodBlue on 2008 June 20, 23:40:17
 :D  I'm leaning towards excuse 9, it just seems fitting somehow.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Azaya on 2008 June 20, 23:41:35
I don't care if it's true or not, it's hilarious.  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 June 20, 23:45:27
(It appears that Tommy's
gun fires blanks) .... Tom can't get it up.... he only gets hard for money) .... he couldn't please her in
the way she'd like.... he can't raise a smile.... its the only thing she can spread
around Tom these days. ...she's spreading stuff just because she can...and evidently he cant! .... She knows she can no longer rely on Tom when her batteries run out. ..Its her way of kicking him where it hurts, even though that may not apply anymore.

WOW  :o  looks like Tomass overdosed on that tea tree oil that pickles was talking about  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 June 20, 23:51:11
What the flying fuck? Why the hell would we even want to know about that? I think this is going too far.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 June 20, 23:51:16
Tom was away for 4 days last week. Atwa had already predicted his absence
before the fact, saying he and his wife would be undergoing fertility treatment
after trying for a baby for some considerable time. (It appears that Tommy's
gun fires blanks)

 Curiously this info was deliberately 'leaked' for reasons unknown, she even
went to the lengths of repeatedly emphasising to each recipient how awful it
would be if the pirates got hold of this information, If it is indeed true that
Tom can't get it up, it is very interesting why Anita would want this to get
out.

Personally, I couldn't care less whether Thomass is completely impotent or a fucking stallion. I think the last thing this world needs is Thomass-spawn, but beyond that... *yawn*

I do feel like I should mention, though, that infertility and impotence are two very different conditions. In order to be 'firing blanks', a man would have to be able to 'get it up'. (To the best of my knowledge anyway. There may very well be situations in which a man can ejaculate without an erection, but I don't know about them.)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 June 20, 23:56:55
Look it's not his wife's fault that he's a smuck. I don't think it's funny to make fun of some guys or some womans fertility if it might be true. Shame on Anita to tell people this info, if it is what happening.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 June 20, 23:58:08
I think men can ejaculate without being aroused if their prostate is milked.  *isn't sure why she thinks she knows that :o*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 June 21, 00:12:04
Gross.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 21, 00:12:10
What the flying fuck? Why the hell would we even want to know about that? I think this is going too far.

Look it's not his wife's fault that he's a smuck. I don't think it's funny to make fun of some guys or some womans fertility if it might be true. Shame on Anita to tell people this info, if it is what happening.

I have to agree. This issue has nothing to do with Sims or the community other than the fact that Thomas was away for a few days (and Atwat knew about it), and it crosses the line. I feel dirty knowing this; if Atwat truly is spreading this information, she should be ashamed of herself. I'm sure I, like many, have probably joked about Thomas' manhood on more than one occasion, but I refuse to engage in any sort of comic teasing or speculation on this particular RL matter.

And although I know nothing about whatever affliction Thomas or his wife may be suffering from (and I do not want to), I feel the need to clarify: using fertility treatments usually does not mean that the person involved cannot get an erection or ejaculate, so teasing in that manner is silly even if it weren't a little too personal. It might be funny to question the virility of this man who we all despise, but this is hitting a little too close to home and getting into some invasive territory, IMO.

Rose: people like the ones you've described disgust me.  >:(

I hope you're very proud of yourself, Anita.

------

Edited to add: Coconut, please don't misunderstand me. I don't think there's anything wrong with you informing the phorum about this issue, because Atwa already spilled the beans. It's just further evidence of her desperation for attention and her inability to keep her mouth shut. Complete treachery. I just don't want to add anything that might be construed as mockery of Thomas or his wife, as it's Atwa who should be embarrassed about this, not them. I have plenty of ways to criticize him without delving into extremely painful, private, RL matters.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 June 21, 00:27:17
I agree, that is just wrong.  Infertility is a very very trying and emotional thing to suffer from and I am sure that it is hard enough on them as it is, I wouldn't want anyone to go through it.   If I was his wife Atwat would be getting smack down in a hurry.   >:(


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 June 21, 01:08:50
I think it's safe to say that atwat knows few boundaries when it comes to striking out at those whom she feels have slighted her. It almost makes me feel for Thomass. But hey, he hired and no doubt encouraged her behavior in the past, so I guess it's just fair that he knows what it's like to be a recipient of that kind of grotesque behavior.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Ensign EO on 2008 June 21, 01:32:07
"Carrier" means basically the same thing as "owner" in a biological sense, and I have a hard time believing that "womb-carrier" wouldn't raise a few eyebrows, if not hackles, in this particular forum.
Because she wasn't the target.  Like I said, it's easy to skip over certain things if they look "okay", especially when the bigger issue at the moment was dealing with Sheyza and sharing intimate details that are not his to share and making jokes about rape.

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It still pretty much comes across as "womb on legs" (to use your own example) and not in the innocuous sense of lungs, cars, etc. All I meant was that many of us would have been extremely upset to see something like that written, but we were totally willing to ignore "penis-owners," and that seems quite hypocritical to me.

Besides, lungs are neutral territory. Everyone has them. Nobody can say "Well, you have lungs" and mean it as an insult

And every male is born with a penis and every female with a uterus.  Lungs can be a point of contention if one of them has only one lung, or lung cancer due to smoking, or has asthma and someone is mocking them for always being out of breath or out out of shape, or anything.  People will fight about anything.  You can accidentally nudge a person while walking by them and suddenly it's Armageddon.

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All I'm getting at is the fact that gender and sexuality are hot button topics, and, in the wrong hands, can be used in a misguided attempt at insulting another person, whereas lungs and cars are not.
Then you've never seen people argue about their cars before.  :P  People can get heated if anyone insults their vehicle, maybe say they can smoke the car in a race or something.  I've hung around even people who are obsessed with their cars, getting upgrades, taking care of their "babies".  You scratch or dent it, you pay in blood.  You beat them in a race and they go around telling people you cheated.  :P  I'm not trying to downplay the issue of sexism, but it isn't the only issue on the planet.  People have killed for less.

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I might say that a friend of mine is gay and mean it in the entirely innocent, honest sense, whereas a bigot might call someone "gay" in an idiotic attempt to insult them.
I doubt the person who used "penis owner" meant it in a hostile manner.  If you can do it with "gay", why not her with "penis owner"?  I doubt she's a sexist who hates all men.

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I doubt that the poster of the comment (I'm intentionally leaving out names) meant what she said in a nasty way. I was just trying to point out that it's hypocritical to jump all over one person for doing something very similar, while excusing it from others.
I don't think it's that similar that they deserve equal punishment.  One flippant comment in contrast to several posts demonstrating a great amount of insensitivity?  Instead of leaving out names, just say who it is.  I doubt she would have been up in arms about it much if you said it earlier.  Slap on the wrist, sure, but I doubt she needs to be taken to the firing squad.  But like I said, she wasn't the main target, it's easy to miss a post like that, and I doubt she would have fought much about it if someone had said something about it instead of dancing around it.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 21, 01:36:57
I never said they deserved equal punishment. If you check my original post, I didn't even say she was the only person who said something that was rude. It was simply the comment that stuck out. My only point is that the comment would never have gone unnoticed if it had been about women, whether or not it was intentionally inflammatory. Everyone who I have repeated the phrase "penis-owner" to has found it offensive, because it sounds like it is meant that way. I don't think it was, but it sounds that way. I was just saying that if we are going to tell one person to be more sensitive, perhaps the rest of us should try to do the same.

I see what you're saying here, but sorry, I stand by everything I said.  ;)

Can I haz moar derailment nao plz?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Ensign EO on 2008 June 21, 01:48:01
People excuse certain behaviours from long-standing members around here all the time that newer members would be chewed out for.  Same deal--you might be excused or get a talking-to if you're a pirate, but chewed out if you're a paysite supporter.  It's their choice where to draw the line, considering the forum is largely unmoderated.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 June 21, 01:52:45
Happy boobie owner here. :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 21, 01:54:21
People excuse certain behaviours from long-standing members around here all the time that newer members would be chewed out for.  Same deal--you might be excused or get a talking-to if you're a pirate, but chewed out if you're a paysite supporter.  It's their choice where to draw the line, considering the forum is largely unmoderated.

I know. I'm not saying anyone should do anything about it. I just don't like hypocrisy and I might very well point it out if I notice it; I also don't like it when women get away with saying something that might be sexist while a man would very well be crucified in the same situation, or vice versa. I don't offense was intended by any parties in this thread, perhaps until Shey's big blow-out, but I feel that I have the right to say what I think even if it's not a matter of life, death or drama. That's all. No big deal. I think you're under the impression that I'm more upset about this than I actually am.  ;)

Also, you can count me as a member of the same club, Nouk.  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 June 21, 02:28:04
If "penis owner" is offensive, I am sure you are mad at me all the time, glasscigarette..


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: TapThatBooty on 2008 June 21, 02:33:56
Happy boobie owner here. :D

Happy penis-owner here :D

seriously tho, things can get taken out of context so easily these days, with all this polliticle correctness shit that is going on, people are no longer aware of what is considered offensive or not. I am not downplaying these peoples intelligence, but people dont know what otheres will take offence to.
i dont care if someone calls me a "penis-owner", id be flattered if they did lol, i have longish(but male styled) hair, and im skinny, and if my back is facing someone, they come up behind me and say "excuse me miss" and get the shock of their life when i turn around or speak lol.
i also dont mind being classed as "gay" because i am, people can call me gay all they like, it doesnt bother me.
just like how me and my mates, if we are talking about a group of straight people(, we call them "heteros" as in heterosexuals. we mainly use this abbreaviation when we are mocking a group of straight guys who go so OTT in trying to impress a group of women, we just turn and say "oh, the heteros are in".

now, i hate tom ass as much as everyone else here, but i think that the whole subject about is manhood and his infertile talk is a bit much. before it was a joke, and i laughed at what was said, until it came to light him and his wife have been having trouble getting pregnant possibly due to him "shooting blanks". then it becomes a completely different situation.

im not saying that people here have taken it too far, cos they havent, the jokeing started before then (i believe), and from the looks of it, others have also taken a dislike to the info that was leaked.

and now im babbling on lol. its like 3.30am here(uk) and the school  up the street from me has gone up in flames, so im a bit awake at all that, and im still going on, so im just gonna shut up now lol.

*waits for the ambush*  :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: mando on 2008 June 21, 02:47:30
Besides, seriously, there's 10 sites like that already; it hasn't broken my heart yet...I guess my heart really is made of stone. :(

Dude, seriously? All I know about are disjointed rants, floating about in blogs and on paysite bitches' websites. If there's a whole site about how much we bite the big one, I'd love to see it.

Heh, even though I used the word "seriously", I was actually being sarcastic (and was meant to reference some of the things you noted) :D; however, there was (is?) one forum in particular that I do, erm, fondly remember that was all about "how much we bite the big one" ;D. Check Money Better Spent (http://www.moneybetterspent.org/) for a link in the "Open Letter...." page if you're really curious.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 21, 02:49:32
If "penis owner" is offensive, I am sure you are mad at me all the time, glasscigarette..

Not at all. I am not easily offended, despite what people may have decided in the course of this thread. ;) I was just pointing out that Shey was not the only person in the thread saying things that might be misinterpreted. I was not attacking any one person, nor was I personally offended by anything that I read. Gah.

Honestly, has anything I've posted in the past indicated that I'm overly sensitive about issues like this? I just don't like hypocrisy, and I noticed a trace of it floating around. No worries. It's really nothing to be concerned about, in the grand scheme of things.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Markus on 2008 June 21, 04:36:44
Trust me guys it's impossible to offend GC. I have tried on a number of occasions, and she can vouch for me that nothing you could say would offend her. Like myself she just has a low threshold for hypocrisy.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Tabby on 2008 June 21, 05:14:16
  Well I for one wasn't so much offended by the ignorant comment about male rape, as I was about his blatant disregard for his mother's feelings. Talking about it nonchalantly as he/she did, just made me angry. Speaking as a person who has lived through that, if my child got on the internet and talked about anything I told them in confidence, I would beat the hell out of them.
 
  It is a highly personal issue and I am sure that if his/her mother wanted us to know about it, she bloody well would have told us herself.   :(

ETA: Just so you know, I wouldn't literally "beat the hell" out of them. Child abuse is wrong in all forms. It would be a cold day in Hell before I told them anything else though!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Scurvy Wench on 2008 June 21, 06:56:59
This thread either needs to be drailed again, or we need some cats. All in favor of cats, say Ay.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 June 21, 07:00:05
The "penis-owners" comment, in particular, got me up in arms. How can we sit here and get all high and mighty about how sexism goes both ways, and then just let that comment go relatively unnoticed?

I try to have one fight at a time though.  And I would find it far more offensive if someone were to say that they were the "penis brigade".  I think that the poster was avoiding using "men" as a generic term to avoid associating all males with the "male honour code" so inherently tied up in the word "men".

Slight distinction between "penis on legs" and "penis owner".  I don't know.

Penis on legs would get me riled. Penis owner would not, but owned by penis would.

"Carrier" means basically the same thing as "owner" in a biological sense, and I have a hard time believing that "womb-carrier" wouldn't raise a few eyebrows, if not hackles, in this particular forum. It still pretty much comes across as "womb on legs" (to use your own example) and not in the innocuous sense of lungs, cars, etc. All I meant was that many of us would have been extremely upset to see something like that written, but we were totally willing to ignore "penis-owners," and that seems quite hypocritical to me.

Ah - no - "womb on legs" is reducing a person to a thing while "womb owner" would not raise hackles  - similar to "brunette" or "blonde" it is an identifying feature of a person.  I think that reducing people to their smallest quotient is totally the wrong thing to do. There is a difference in saying one is identified with a group via common traits, and one is that particular organ.

I didn't like it when "housewives with no midol" was used, but I probably wouldn't have bucked up quite as much if "pirates" was used - mainly because through housewives, the poster was seeking to diminish us, while pirates is merely part of the group formation.

What the flying fuck? Why the hell would we even want to know about that? I think this is going too far.

I appreciate the information coconut - but I agree with Nouk here - this is not mockworthy for me - it is rather that this leak shows how much Atwat deserves our scorn - this is horrible information to leak in order to win a war in the sims community.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 21, 07:00:15
All good points, Cala, some of which I thought of after posting, but I chose not to rehash the issue even more. And like I said, I did not think that the poster was attempting to be offensive in any way. I tested the phrases on a few RL people, and all said that if they heard someone referring to men as "penis-owners" or women as "womb-carriers," they would likely assume that it was in a sexist sense. Again, I did not find it personally offensive, but I can see how some people would. That really wasn't my point; I was just saying that there were several people in the thread who said things that might be considered insensitive. Shey was the king, but he was not entirely alone.

But I digress. I stirred some shit, and I got splattered. I haz sore nose nao.

Scurvy Wench: Aye! Aye! Aye! Aye!

Aye aye?

(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/pyropixxy/aye.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Scurvy Wench on 2008 June 21, 07:12:17
GC: I asked for cats, that is just fucking creepy.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: strix on 2008 June 21, 08:03:43
What about a dramatic lemur? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkqqMPPg2VI . It's small and furry, at least.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 21, 08:14:26
GC: I asked for cats, that is just fucking creepy.


:( But it's an aye aye! And it, too, is a type of lemur.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Scurvy Wench on 2008 June 21, 08:20:33
*Channels the spirt of Pescado*
NO LEMURS ALLOWED!
Now, how about some kittehs?
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d27/jhmonkey14/other/uninterested.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Markus on 2008 June 21, 08:21:35
That's no Lemur GC, it's Atwa.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 21, 08:33:14
FINE, Wench!  ;)

(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/pyropixxy/mouth.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Scurvy Wench on 2008 June 21, 10:10:15
That has to be one of my top five favorite cats, ever. Markus, where is your offering of kitteh?
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee14/suhweetg/LOL%20Cats/funnycatsink.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Tabby on 2008 June 21, 12:07:12
  Ok, that video, srsly.  :o  I was ascared!  Now for some cutesy kittehs!


(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj174/Tabby0511/213113wwpnek7rtf.gif)



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dita on 2008 June 21, 13:15:28
Now, okay, given that I'm the one to have come up with "penis owners" and seeing what discussions it has caused:

I'm sorry if this has offended anyone. In hindsight I'd say it was somewhat inaccurate - mostly because women are just as capable of sexism against themselves as are men; I should have written "anyone" instead. (And, yes, there obviously is such a thing as anti-male sexism, it just doesn't have anywhere near the same impact!) This is a total trigger subject for me for various reasons. I'm not about to elaborate, but feel free to ask if for one reason or another you absolutely need to know.

Now back to lurkerdom!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 June 21, 13:45:01
ohhh kittehs  ;D

one for Sheyza

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/dinad2610/emokitteh.jpg)

and one for Atwat

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/dinad2610/AngryKitteh.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 21, 17:31:25
Aw, no worries, Dita. The whole conversation went far longer than I ever expected. No offense taken. ;)

(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/pyropixxy/299001391_38079f5104_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 June 21, 18:16:52
(http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL646/2837408/19835059/322221084.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 June 21, 18:28:06
(http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/2289/530815732591e117af0nt0.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 June 21, 19:20:36
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w234/Purplepooki/Caturday/funny-pictures-call-center-cat.jpg)
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w234/Purplepooki/Caturday/hidenzcameraw128417572014321485.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 June 21, 21:42:25
I can't resist...  ;D :P

(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/859/lolcats14zc8sr2.jpg)

(http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/2118/6a00d834236afb53ef00e54yb5.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Kragey on 2008 June 22, 07:25:07
Realizing I'm interrupting macros--and I apologize--I just read Coconut's post, and...seriously. A post from Coconut = my day made, even if it is TMI. Thoma$$ and Atwat deserve a good thrashing, but I feel bad for his wife getting dragged through the muck like this.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 June 22, 13:07:08
Yes, I feel sorry for his wife, but I felt sorry for her long before atwat leaked this.  ::)

As for Tomass himself, sorry no, I have no sympathy, the main reason being, when atwat made fun of someones brain tumor, correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't read anything about him feeling sorry enough to appologise to her victim for his member of staff belittling and laughing at her serious and distressing illness, no, all I remember reading is a recent post saying he was downright nasty to her. At the very least he should have appologised on behalf of TSR, but he didnt feel that compassionate, so I have a problem feeling any compassion for his non life threatening problem.

I truly believe this was leaked on purpose, I've been there, seen that many times. She has always 'leaked' info, saying 'your the only person I've told' then I find out everyone with a mailbox got the same info, then she'd have a link to the post when it came out here, within minutes of it being posted, which often made me wonder what she was doing on here continually refreshing, as if she was expecting something to be posted, then she'd rush off to Tomass, telling me it's better if he hears it first from her. she would then busy herself, basking in the drama holding her little anti pirate investigations, bragging how closly she and he were working together to close the leak, while taking the oppertunity to accuse everyone and anyone of being the mole. Tomass would get bored and it all would die down, then another leak would happen, and she would bask in the drama again, even if it was about her.

I often thought then, and still think now, even atwat couldn't be so stupid, she knows someone is leaking info, so why does she keep telling everyone things she shouldn't, she'd even told secrets to people who she'd accused of being pirates and moles on the leak before, and clearly she's still doing that. Even recently she made sure everyone knew about her beasims account, thats not someone who's trying to hide and avoid drama, thats someone who always wants to be at the center of it. it's the same with her and that kids 'secret' paysite.

I'm not a gambling person, but I'd put money on it that she's basking like a shark on this latest drama, and she's gonna milk maximum attention from Tomass and anyone who will listen, and is contacting everyone she knows with the link or screenshot to coconuts post, in the process making sure even more people find out about Tomass' bedroom problems. Tomass should be ashamed of the embarrassment he has caused for his wife, I'm sure she did not want him to confide their personal problems in some old drama whore, nor to give attention to that drama whore when she gossips their private stuff for her own attention needs.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: karu on 2008 June 22, 16:28:11
Tom was away for 4 days last week. Atwa had already predicted his absence
before the fact, saying he and his wife would be undergoing fertility treatment
after trying for a baby for some considerable time. (It appears that Tommy's
gun fires blanks)

 Curiously this info was deliberately 'leaked' for reasons unknown, she even
went to the lengths of repeatedly emphasising to each recipient how awful it
would be if the pirates got hold of this information, If it is indeed true that
Tom can't get it up, it is very interesting why Anita would want this to get
out. could it be:

 1) She's angry at Tom for not making her new account Beasims into FA

 2) She still holds a grudge for getting canned from her AM job

 3) There is no truth to it and both her and Tom made this up to test leaks
(unlikely - as what man would want it spread around that he only gets hard for
money)

 4) She's no longer in love with him now she knows he couldn't please her in
the way she'd like.

 5) she's jealous of the closeness he has with his wife, who has stood by him
even though he can't raise a smile.

 6) she just cant resist spreading gossip, as its the only thing she can spread
around Tom these days.

 7) she's spreading stuff just because she can...and evidently he cant!

 8) she's jealous that a baby would come between her and Tom and is hitting
back

 9) She knows she can no longer rely on Tom when her batteries run out.

 10) Its her way of kicking him where it hurts, even though that may not apply
anymore.

 Whatever your reasons, Thank you Atwa, and just this once I'll post it for
you, it's as funny as hell.


 Hey shey - 2 words - Shaded_Age, Yes, she told people, you really think she
wouldn't?


you gotta lotta info there coco.....  are you atwa in disguise?   ???


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 June 22, 19:05:40


As for Tomass himself, sorry no, I have no sympathy, the main reason being, when atwat made fun of someones brain tumor, correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't read anything about him feeling sorry enough to appologise to her victim for his member of staff belittling and laughing at her serious and distressing illness, no, all I remember reading is a recent post saying he was downright nasty to her.

SNIP

I'm sure she did not want him to confide their personal problems in some old drama whore...


This last is why I feel no sympathy. She used his personal issues as a way to "find the leak"?  Nice.  But it is his fault for telling her in the first place.   He should have known she would splash it all over. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: ValancySterling on 2008 June 22, 23:44:19
Tom was .... you really think she
wouldn't?


you gotta lotta info there coco.....  are you atwa in disguise?   ???


That's what I thought when I read it too.   


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 23, 02:53:01
Now, now chilluns. ;) Coco has been kind enough to share information with us on a number of occasions. I don't think there's any real reason to believe that she's Atwat. We've seen time and time again that "private" info has a way of getting out in this community, and Coco happens to have an inside seat to watch some of the TSR drama unfold. Just because she knows more than we do, it's not proof that she's one of our mortal TSR enemies.  ::) Unless there is some sort of genuine evidence to support this idea, I'm going to continue to be grateful for the info that Coco shares rather than insulting her. I may not agree with the mocking course that part of this thread took, but Coco's info has been invaluable more than once.

And just to be clear, I don't think Thomass had the right to belittle another person's medical condition, but that also doesn't mean that I'm going to lower myself to his level and start doing the same thing in some sort of immature, misguided attempt at revenge. Yes, it's a minor sort of poetic justice, but I think the situation speaks for itself and doesn't necessitate me rubbing his nose in it. He's an asshole for doing what he does, and Atwa is an asshole for sharing this extremely private information (amongst other things). Yes, it's even more repulsive if this was done in an attempt to locate the source of an information leak, but I'm not going to make fun of a medical condition because I don't like them. That would make me more like them. Coco shared this info as yet another illustration of Atwa's backstabbing, attention-whoring personality, but I'm not going to take it as an excuse to act like a brat just because I can.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 June 23, 06:20:37
Can't be Atwat - all the information is too embarassing to Atwat. Coconut is giving us information given out by Atwat, but all of the information - not the spin.  It all just shows how much of a gossip Atwat is, and how maybe she's even pissed off close friends, who now give information to this site.

Coconut is kindly giving us the poop on TSR - it doesn't make Atwat look good, nor TSR.  *If* it was Atwat there'd be little gems such as "And Atwat is releasing a new mesh set this week set to blow your mind".  Can't be her.

Yes, it's even more repulsive if this was done in an attempt to locate the source of an information leak, but I'm not going to make fun of a medical condition because I don't like them. That would make me more like them.

I agree.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Kragey on 2008 June 23, 06:36:18
*If* it was Atwat there'd be little gems such as "And Atwat is releasing a new mesh set this week set to blow your mind".  Can't be her.

Haha, so true!

I like to compare Coconut to Deep Throat. Super-mysterious giver of super-inside information.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 June 23, 12:00:08
Don't get me wrong, I've never thought coco is atwat for a second, but I do think coco and his/her sources have been used as a tool by atwat to gain herself some drama. Coconut seems to be aware of this already though. but even though I think Atwat is using this to her own advantage, I still think its important that coconut continues to post this info. I agree that sometimes it not the information itself thats interesting, its the fact that atwat leaked it in first place. Tomass' little problem may have been TMI for some, (him especially) but it goes a long way in providing proof to the people who still trust atwat just how low she will go to create some attention for herself.
Long live coconut!!  ;D

on a side note:

Quote
Hey shey - 2 words - Shaded_Age, Yes, she told people, you really think she
wouldn't?

I'm hoping coco returns to elaborate on this.



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: ValancySterling on 2008 June 23, 14:19:23
Sorry...I realize all that.  It just the mocking tone of this post seemed a bit off from coco's other post.  She/he/they are usually a little less, um, editorial when they post.




Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AW on 2008 June 23, 16:14:49
I seriously want to head up the Coconut Official Fan Club  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 23, 16:27:27
Do I need some sort of application, or can this post count for me to join?  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AW on 2008 June 23, 16:29:12
Nope, no post count requirements.  You're in baby!  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AW on 2008 June 23, 16:32:15
Absolutely, we need a sexy red head or two...plus, you're pretty awesome anyway.  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 June 23, 16:46:31
sign me up...is it gonna cost monies??  :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 23, 16:52:28
Of course it is, Dina! We have to pay for bandwidth. No, wait, nobody falls for that one anymore. Artistic ownership? Rights of fan-club creators?

Actually, we own coconut, too. You can access her for just $1.50 per visit.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Kragey on 2008 June 23, 17:55:49
I joined, whether you wanted me to or not.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 June 23, 17:57:14
Sorry...I realize all that.  It just the mocking tone of this post seemed a bit off from coco's other post.  She/he/they are usually a little less, um, editorial when they post.

I noticed that too, perhaps he/she is trying to bang it home to tomass the consequences of what happens when you tell atwat a secret.

Where do I sign up, and do I get discount?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 June 23, 18:01:22
Your signatures bother me, Kragey.  I keep on having to adblock them.  :/


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Kragey on 2008 June 23, 18:02:24
Your signatures bother me, Kragey.  I keep on having to adblock them.  :/

??? What's the issue with them? It's a picture linked to a website...is there any way I can fix it?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 June 23, 18:14:36
Your signatures bother me, Kragey.  I keep on having to adblock them.  :/

??? What's the issue with them? It's a picture linked to a website...is there any way I can fix it?

One of the reasons I like this phorum is for the mainly text only signatures.  It's not a big deal because I can adblock everyone that does choose to have pictures but I hope it won't catch on.  :/


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 23, 18:36:08
I normally can't stand picture sigs, but that one is awesome, IMO! It's topical and phorum-specific, so it doesn't bother me...at least for a while. :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SamanthaS on 2008 June 23, 18:36:57
At least it's not blinking. Glass half full and all that.  :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 June 23, 18:37:29
Miss A is right - as a rule, we don't do picture sigs. But this one, I think, for now, is well met...and a strong statement.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Kragey on 2008 June 23, 18:46:59
Better? Sorry, I didn't mean to make anybody's computer go wonky.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 June 23, 18:49:21
I didn't get a chance to save it...  :'(


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Kragey on 2008 June 23, 18:52:02
I still have the picture there, it's just linked to keep AdBlock from going crazy.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: cookiepirate on 2008 June 23, 20:17:34
My Adblock must be working too well, I never saw a pic sig here, just links.   :-\  Should I be happy or sad?

If I bring cookies, lots and lots of cookies, instead of monies, can I join the Coconut Fan Club?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 June 23, 20:24:45
Of course it is, Dina! We have to pay for bandwidth. No, wait, nobody falls for that one anymore. Artistic ownership? Rights of fan-club creators?

Actually, we own coconut, too. You can access her for just $1.50 per visit.

oh and hey, while we are at it, we can take advantage of the weak dollar and charge more!!  :o  What a concept...hmm now where did I get that idea from???  ::)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 June 23, 20:32:25
You mean like changing the price directly to 1.50E? *scratches head* Thoma$$ would be pissed off if we stole his idea ::) *innocent look*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 July 07, 07:52:58
I guess the old twat has been upsetting people again  ;D


"OH SO TOTALLY BANNED"  I LOVE IT!!

(http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/2835/lmaobannedtwatch6.png)


http://forums.thesimsresource.com/showthread.php?p=3673124#post3673124



(http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/7618/bannedtwatqm6.png)

http://forums.thesimsresource.com/member.php?u=159134



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: pixelated on 2008 July 07, 09:30:42
 "oh so totally banned"? Rofl.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 July 07, 09:48:43
That's absolutely priceless!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jess Maree on 2008 July 07, 12:46:50
Oh, so totally roffle! :D

/lame cheesy joke


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AW on 2008 July 07, 14:22:38
So, when's the party?  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 July 07, 15:20:33
Is this for real? ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Piratey on 2008 July 07, 15:28:54
She oh so totally deserved it.  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 July 07, 16:03:22
Is this for real? ;D

I have the same question. Paging coconut!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 July 07, 17:32:42
Holy shit, there IS a God!  :o And Atwat has been smited! (hopefully... *crosses fingers*)



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 July 07, 18:32:56
(yea they're genuine, just click the on links near each screenshot to take you to the tsr threads pictured)


This gets better  ;D

http://forums.thesimsresource.com/showthread.php?t=348278 (scroll to bottom of page)

someone over at TSR is still making the finishing touches to her banned account, note on the earlier screens her location was sweden, now it's in a lonely banned place   Pure gold!

(http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/4020/totallystillbannedbl0.png)




Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 July 07, 18:47:01
Hrm..Personally am going to wait for Coconut on this...

Am curious as to why the BeaSims account is not banned - if Atwa got banned, and with such personal remarks like that put on her profile, why is her other account not gone? And, if she is banned, why now? Why not earlier..so what has she done now? And I think it is unlikely that a TSR admin/Thomas would edit remarks like that onto her profile - they are too over the top and dramatic, so creates dramaness...why not just give her the usual Banned title, or just not edit it at all and give her no new title?

And..last random questioning thought...can't certain members at TSR (SA, FA, mod, admin, etc) edit their own profiles so could it be that, for whatever mad reason, Atwa has edited it herself?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 July 07, 19:34:53
First of all, it seems possible to me that the TSR brigade is still attempting to gloss over the fact that BeaSims is blatantly, obviously, it-couldn't-be-more-apparently Atwa's new incarnation. I could be wrong, since I don't spend any time in the TSR forums and the like, but it seems like the kind of thing they would cling to. The active members and those of us here might think it's common knowledge, but to the casual sheeple, it still might not be.

Second, it doesn't seem far-fetched that Atwa might have edited her own profile to reflect her bannination. In particular, the use of the word "lonely" makes me think that it might be her last desperate attempt at garnering a little attention and sympathy under her old identity.

Blech.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 July 07, 19:42:55
Indeed GC. And the location on her profile was altered after Sherrie initially posted about the banned title here - why would an admin come back later on and edit it? Seems more likely that Atwa herself saw it had been posted here, and added more drama onto her profile. The location and title purely create drama, which makes me think it was not a member of staff (..if it was, thats incredibly stupid and unprofessional).


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: aikea_guinea on 2008 July 07, 19:52:02
For what it's worth, I know I've seen the exact term 'Oh, so totally banned' on another user's account, though at this point I can't remember exactly which one.  I want to say it was on Daggs', but it also may have been on another totally random account.

I'm also curious about the BeaSims account.  Seems to me there's some more smoke and mirrors at work here.  (Nothing new there, of course.)  I'd be surprised if TSR ever really got rid of that woman.

edited because i cannot type


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 July 07, 19:52:47
And the location on her profile was altered after Sherrie initially posted about the banned title here - why would an admin come back later on and edit it?

Maybe someone made Sherrie a mod by mistake.  :D But seriously - I agree that this was probably altered by atwat herself.  This would be the sort of showy thing she'd do - and of course if she did it, then she's obviously not banned - otherwise she wouldn't have access in order to change her details.  And of course, this is the sort of silly transparent move that someone like atwat, so hamfisted at manipulation would make - thinking we'd really believe she's gone.  Heads up - we don't believe it.  Bring on the hate of beasims.  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 July 07, 20:03:47
Mm..Daggs' account got deleted, didn't it? Just did a search and she doesn't come up, and briefly recall her account got burnated..which means can not have a look to see if she did get that edited onto hers. I don't remember her profile getting that title, or seeing it before on others, but my memory is poor so would think you probably are correct Aikea.

If an admin did give her that title..I am extremely curious as to why - it is just so over the top, makes you wonder what she finally did to get the boot. Or, if it is smoke and mirrors with then making out like she is now gone. But still begs the question as to why BeaSims is still there..


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 July 07, 20:14:35
Hmmm...with a little bit of investigation, I think I have a simple answer to your question.

If an admin did give her that title..I am extremely curious as to why - it is just so over the top, makes you wonder what she finally did to get the boot. Or, if it is smoke and mirrors with then making out like she is now gone. But still begs the question as to why BeaSims is still there..

smoke and mirrors

smoke

[Thomass is] smok[ing something]

I iz deetektiv!

Seriously, though, you're right: it seems a little silly and dramalicious for an admin to add these things to her profile seriously. It seems quite possible, to me, that this is yet another attempt to cover up Atwa's continued presence on the deteriorating TSR ship as it slowly but inexorably sinks into the depths of its own rapidly increasing failure. Luckily, I think we have a few sharks around here.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 July 07, 20:27:39
Yea, thinking about it I agree it's looking strange (but still amusing!) if it were true it would be damn funny, but alas it's beginning to look like a smoke screen. knowing a lot of the things shes said and done to the mods I think they may have been a little more 'inventive' with her forum title, also they would have banned her beasims account because its against the rules to have multiple accounts on TSR. it's still possible that she's upset them again, I'm sure they can still feel her knife set in their backs.  oooh I love a mystery  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 July 07, 20:32:39
well with as much crap that Atwat could get into, I don't think she could have edited her own forum account.  The forum is Tug's baby...and I believe even Thomas doesn't have access to some of what Tug has or at the very least stays out of her way and lets her run it as she wants to...I remember vaguely some conversation in the SA forum about him being able to change or fix things...I do know he can and will delete posts/threads as he sees fit (usually if you don't kiss his ass and agree with his point of view)  Any title change had to go through Tug..not sure about the FA's, but I know when I was an SA there, you had to go through Tug.  I know that Tug doesn't like Atwat very much, so I would be curious to see what she does with BeaSim's forum account.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: coconut on 2008 July 07, 22:47:35
 The forum title change was done by the Mods and not Anita. Lets just say she got caught doing things she should not have done. The waters are somewhat muddy at present.
 
 According to Atwa, heads are going to roll, she said she has made a formal complaint to Thomas, and is expecting a full retraction and an apology from Tug. If such an apology were to be made,it is doubtful it would be public as Atwa would like, but it is possible Tom would make her do this in private if Anita still has the control over him that she claims to have. It is also making it crystal clear to the Mods who really runs the forums over there, Perhaps changing her profile title to Moderator or Admin would be more appropriate.

 Either way Anita is on top form now she feels that someone is in trouble over her, and it does appear that the Mods will yet again been over-ruled by someone who was thrown out with the trash. Kath was also reported, says Anita, for being too slow approving Beasims submissions. If she has really reported her or not remains to be seen.

 Atwa is milking it for all the attention and drama she can get, claiming that both Kath and TUG have made her seriously ill with all the stress of banning her and slow submissions. If banning is so dangerous, they should lift it for everyone, as for so submissions, Anita is just one of hundreds of artists submitting, what makes her think she should get special treatment above anyone else, her work is hardly at the high end scale. She is just a regular artist like everyone else, only worse.

   
The Atwa and Tom horror show

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7253/melookingworriedpf3.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3126/pict0003ms9.jpg
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/9398/today02gp0.jpg
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/4589/ththomasandjohanhn2.jpg
  .


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: keirra on 2008 July 07, 22:51:02
Teh Drama...tis lulzy.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 July 07, 22:57:03
Ok so it looks like Tug did ban her, for reasons unknown (and unbeknownst to Thomas?), and Anita is now supremely pissed off and is going to force Tug to unban her and apologize.  Is that right?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Lorelei on 2008 July 07, 23:00:59
"oh so totally banned"? Rofl.

My sentiments exactly. HA ha!

Thanks for the Insider Info, coconut. You are a precious resource.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: coconut on 2008 July 07, 23:02:25
yes tomato.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 July 07, 23:09:39
She just gets more and more hilarious with every bit of drama she incites.

Thanks for the info, coconut...although the pictures have left me scarred.  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 July 07, 23:10:25
Atwa's scary...

It's just that first pic of her, looks like something nasty lulz.

And lol at the status change, Atwat obviously hasn't learnt that the truth hurts teehee


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 July 07, 23:48:27
Now her profile just says "retired".  Damn, good thing you got those screenshots, Sherrie.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Mheyin on 2008 July 07, 23:53:29
That first pic of her is less "worried" and more "BRAAINS!! I NEED BRAAAAIIIIIINS!!!!!"

Let the nightmares begin...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Tempest Limmerfer on 2008 July 08, 00:23:02
Thanks for the info....it's even deeper drama than I had thought.

TSR: The Soap Opera (coming to a television station near you)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 July 08, 01:36:38
Thanks coconut  ;D

Yea, looks like the atwat wheels of revenge are in motion, the profile has been changed to 'retired' and I guess tugs now busy typing out her forced appology letter, which sucks for her. I wonder is kath also busy approving her shit as priority. I'm sure atwat must have something on tomass or TSR, otherwise why would he again take the side of a known trouble causer against his own loyal staff, and why is she allowed multiple accounts. Atwat/beasims clearly is still in charge of both the site and forums over there, it's just tomass forgot to tell the rest of the staff until now. If she had nothing on him, wouldn't it be easier from him to press the block button on his mail/msn or PM system, rather than ordering his own staff to kiss her fat wrinkled ass?

so atwat is now seriously ill because she was banned, boo fuckity hoo  :'( She used to come out with that old chestnut everytime coconut or anne bonney made a post here, in fact every single time things didn't go her way or people didn't do what she wanted she'd use the illness card. Well if a little thing like getting banned from a forum can make her so very ill, she has real problems, and perhaps needs to take a visit to the psychiatric ward, surly this alone proves how unstable her mind is. This kind of physical reaction to a forum ban is not normal. Maybe TSR need to remove her all together from the site and forum for her own health, seriously, I'm sure her psychiatrist would recommend it.

OMG coconut, the pictures they burn, I've seen atwat pics before but they never get any easier to look at. in picture 1 I'm sure her teeth are brown, they look all mangy. In picture 2 is it just me or does tomass look really guilty peering over his computer, just what is he looking at? Picture 3 reminds me of jack Nicholson playing the devil for some reason (see below), and on picture 4 the guy near tomass looks like someone out of holby city (uk TV show) called Lindon Cullen.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/holbycity/characters-cast/characters/lindencullen.shtml

(http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2629/devilatwatmp0.png)




Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jonesi on 2008 July 08, 01:41:41
TSR: The Soap Opera (coming to a television station near you)

Now THAT I would subscribe to!  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: BobbinRobbin on 2008 July 08, 01:50:36
Since I know Anita reads this column hourly (it's like crack to her), I have a question for her directly. And folks, I am serious, this is not a joke:

(ahem)

Anita,

WHY do you NEED this drama?

WHAT do you get out of hurting other people, stomping on them, and making their lives misrable, just so you can be happy?

HOW do you justify your NEED to be at the center of everything?

WHO abused you as a child so badly, that you are now so messed up, you actually ENJOY being known as a very disturbed and mentally incompetant person? Because, lady, everyone does think that, not just us pirates. Pretty much every Sims 2 creator out here knows this. Just mention your name in ANY forum out there, for an IMMEDIATE change of subject. Really. I'm serious. You really are persona non grata hon.

Anita, I am addressing you as your real name (I hope that's it anyway - who knows anymore?) as a gesture of all seriousness. Can you answer me? Or maybe the real truth might be too disturbing for even you to honestly acknowledge? I'm waiting.



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 July 08, 02:49:52
Is it me or does Atwat look like that "World's Ugliest Dog"

(http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/5781/16916777fv2.jpg)

 ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 July 08, 02:57:55
Her teeth really do look brown!   :o


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 July 08, 03:14:38
 ;D  very VERY close resembalance, especially round the eyes nose and mouth, but the dog has a much nicer temperament, it's friendly, emotionally stable and it doesn't soil itself or others when banned from stores and candyshops. The dog also has better teeth.  :P But lookswise, it's hard to tell them apart.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 July 08, 03:58:10
I saw her sitting beside those bicycles and thought, "But, but, but, I thought peddling ass was illegal for someone that ugly..."


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: BobbinRobbin on 2008 July 08, 04:03:01
Of COURSE her teeth are brown...she smokes!!

Her heart is as black as her lungs.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 July 08, 04:15:11
I've been smoking for thirty-one years now, and my teeth aren't brown. Then again, I own a toothbrush and toothpaste!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Tetsuo on 2008 July 08, 04:29:28
... and we also go to the dentist for dental cleanings every six months. So, spite being smokers our teeth aren't brownish.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 July 08, 05:57:38
TSR: The Soap Opera (coming to a television station near you)

Now THAT I would subscribe to!  ;D

Cost is all the CC you can crank out plus one million dollars (for the Tom Ass).  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 July 08, 05:58:16
I'm another smoker who doesn't have brown teeth, so there.  :P  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: BobbinRobbin on 2008 July 08, 07:22:27
Smokers:  Do NOT take that personally. I know many of you brush and practice hygiene which is good for you. Looking at HER, I seriously doubt SHE does....even tho smoking can cause your teeth and fingers to go brown....I grew up with smokers...they were clean too, but there are isssues. This is about Atwat/Anita, not any of you....ok?

I still say, her heart is as black as I know her lungs must be.   


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Markus on 2008 July 08, 07:27:40
I knew I shouldn't have come on here so close to bedtime. That picture of Atwa is going to give me nightmares now.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 July 08, 07:32:17
I'm an ex smoker, but when I smoked my teeth were still white. I certainly took no offence at your remark, I doubt anyone else did either. I think we're all pointing out the same thing, that smokers teeth can be clean, but atwat uses it as an excuse to ditch the toothbrush!

*passes rum to Round robin*
*passes mouthwash to atwat*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 July 08, 11:11:55
Insightful information as always Coconut, thanks.

So Tug altered Atwa's profile, and has since then had to change it back due to compaints from Atwa, and presumably an order for Thomas. It seems extremely odd to me that only Tug has the power to do that - and other stuff which Thomas can not do himself, as Dina said. TSR is so oddly run. Why would Thomas put someone into such power, then when they use it, he undermines their authority and makes them change what they did. Undermining your own staff is not a good idea; they are hardly going to remain loyal to a forum where the site owner goes against their actions especially in regard to a member they all find immensely irritating. And I had a little snoop around and saw that Tug has not posted at TSR since the middle of June. So would presume that this drama/whatever Atwa did is not exactly very new then.

Furthermore the order to change Atwa’s profile title to ‘retired’ (screen pic here (http://i28.tinypic.com/154io14.jpg), in case of whatever) does not really lessen the drama effect. She was, supposed to have, retired back in April when she made her blog announcing it. That is four months ago. She did not have a retired title then, what is the point of adding it now? That in itself does arouse suspicions and hint at drama, as clearly if the title was added recently, it means Atwa really did not leave earlier – and that will make people wonder if she ever did or will go. So in my view, that title change can do as much damage as the one Tug changed it to previously…simply because it’s bringing up an old issue, so dramary.

And not only is she gunning for one of the forum’s moderators, but also the upload submission manager. Why Thomas/the-powers-that-be-at-TSR allow someone to attack their staff and do not protect their staff is most curious. There is clearly a lot going on which we are not aware of. Surely some of the power Atwa has is false and created in her head, but she does appear to have some actual power regarding Thomas’ actions – makes you wonder what she has about him to persuade him to protect her so much. Must be something quite major.. Atwa has mostly single handily managed to get rid of two extremely popular FAs (Aikea and Gelydh), caused a massive amount of SAs to leave (the NaturalSims lot), caused issues with the forum in the Texture Challenge, caused rivalries between members, caused tension and back stabbing between FAs and staff, attacked individual moderators and attacked Kath the submission manager who is someone extremely vital to how TSR runs…

You just have to wonder why she gets away with it, and why she is doing it. And why she is allowed multiple accounts when this is against the rules, and her Atwa account is meant to be retired. Am still curious as to why Tug did nothing to the BeaSims account – surely if she was going to ban and ridicule her, why not do it to the new account that she is most active under?

And am curious as to whether Atwa had anything to do with Confide and Tantra leaving… any news on that Coconut?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 July 08, 12:04:18
Making fun of someone's talent (or lack of it in this case) in making CC is fair game.  Calling someone out on their behavior, especially with a history like Atwa's, is excellent.  She deserves it after the way she has treated people and manipulated/manipulates things behind the scenes.  However, and I am sure I am going to be catted, but I have a problem with making fun of someone's looks.  There are so many better things to have lulz for. 

We cannot all be as beautiful as Pescado, after all. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Elfen Lied on 2008 July 08, 12:35:42
Oh the lulz!  :D

Looks like her left eye is red and swollen shut. She took one in the eye when going down on Thomass? Egads! I did not need that image!  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 July 08, 12:54:58
Making fun of someone's talent (or lack of it in this case) in making CC is fair game.  Calling someone out on their behavior, especially with a history like Atwa's, is excellent.  She deserves it after the way she has treated people and manipulated/manipulates things behind the scenes.  However, and I am sure I am going to be catted, but I have a problem with making fun of someone's looks.  There are so many better things to have lulz for. 

We cannot all be as beautiful as Pescado, after all. 

Agreed. There's nothing she could have possibly done to change... ehm... nevermind.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 July 08, 13:50:39
I'll join you in being catted on heh. I agree with you Tomato

We cannot all be as beautiful as Pescado, after all. 

Oh, if only we all had beautiful beards!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: pixelated on 2008 July 08, 14:49:41
Agreed with tomato. I don't think it's too bad saying "Oh man, she looks like she wants to kill someone", make fun of her expression or such, but to just keep going on about how flawed her looks are reminds me too much of my shallow friends in high school.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 July 08, 14:50:28
I'm with Tomato, CaptainJojoba and pixelated, it does seem over the line to mock her appearance.

Sadly, I do not have a lovely beard either.  :-[


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 July 08, 15:02:50
Smokers:  Do NOT take that personally. I know many of you brush and practice hygiene which is good for you. Looking at HER, I seriously doubt SHE does....even tho smoking can cause your teeth and fingers to go brown....I grew up with smokers...they were clean too, but there are isssues. This is about Atwat/Anita, not any of you....ok?

Silly, no worries! I used smilies. Like Sherrie said, I didn't take offense either. Just defending my mouth...or something like that.   :-*

And am curious as to whether Atwa had anything to do with Confide and Tantra leaving… any news on that Coconut?

Woah, I had no idea that Confide and Tantra had left! Captain gets extra cookies and rum just because it was in her post where I heard it first.  ;)  I am thrilled! I have some of their clothes in my game. Not a lot, because I tend to steer clear of TSR, but they're both some of the more talented creators around that hellhole (Tantra's set of outfits with the knit skull-print tubes, skinny jeans and heels is one of my most favoritestest). That's two more points in the "quality creators get fed up and flee" tally; I'm still crossing my fingers for the ultimate fall of TSR, and with more and more of their better artists up and leaving, it seems more possible.

However, and I am sure I am going to be catted, but I have a problem with making fun of someone's looks.  There are so many better things to have lulz for.

Bingo. I don't think that kind of mockery is necessary or particularly funny. I get a little squicky seeing pictures of the TSR staff, sometimes, because it puts a human face on things. So even though I want to mock them heartily, I don't really feel much need to make fun of the way they look. Pixelated pretty much pinned down my feelings on the issue.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jess Maree on 2008 July 08, 15:03:37
/me strokes her invisible beard

Yeah guys, judging someone over their looks is SO High School. And we are pirates! We don't resort to low blows, we're better than that.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 July 08, 15:05:48
I agree with you also Tomato!  It's not her fault fate dealt her an awful set of genetics...  :P but I agree, there is nothing she can do about that...Her personality is what makes her a truly ugly person!

Captjojoba, I am sure that Thomas can do things on the forum like that, but I believe that the forum is separate from TSR...while part of it, it is run by different people, yes Steve and Thomas ultimately own it, but I believe Tug runs the place.  I don't think he likes to step on the toes of Tug and the other mods there...unless of course he doesn't agree with the thread and then he will lock it or delete the posts.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 July 08, 15:07:01
Or force Tug to apologize for things that were fully warranted just because poor, poor Atwat's feelings were injured.  ::)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 July 08, 15:18:15
awww, poor fragile Atwat.... :'(


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 July 08, 15:20:25
And am curious as to whether Atwa had anything to do with Confide and Tantra leaving… any news on that Coconut?

Woah, I had no idea that Confide and Tantra had left! Captain gets extra cookies and rum just because it was in her post where I heard it first.  ;)  I am thrilled! I have some of their clothes in my game. Not a lot, because I tend to steer clear of TSR, but they're both some of the more talented creators around that hellhole (Tantra's set of outfits with the knit skull-print tubes, skinny jeans and heels is one of my most favoritestest). That's two more points in the "quality creators get fed up and flee" tally; I'm still crossing my fingers for the ultimate fall of TSR, and with more and more of their better artists up and leaving, it seems more possible.

Oh they both went some time ago in June. Disappeared off around the same time (if not the same day..), and were put into the Retired Artists  (http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/retired/) section without a word of reason as to why they had gone. Seeing as how they seemed to have disappeared off together, I suspect drama reasons. As of yet they've not popped up on any other sites, which is a shame as they -well particularly Confide- do make nice clothes. They went maybe a week or so after Shannanigan demoted herself to SA as well.

So that was 3 FAs gone in a matter of days..

 I don't think he likes to step on the toes of Tug and the other mods there...unless of course he doesn't agree with the thread and then he will lock it or delete the posts.

Mmm then its odd that he would massively annoy Tug with this. I can't imagine she is best pleased with him making her change the profile, and possibly apologise, heh


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 July 08, 15:28:12
Mmm then its odd that he would massively annoy Tug with this. I can't imagine she is best pleased with him making her change the profile, and possibly apologise, heh

yup!  I can only assume that Atwat has something on him or his business practices...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 July 08, 15:33:16
Tug is a force of nature.  I don't think she'll apologize willingly.  I'm hoping  that this incident persuades her to flee the dark side. 

I agree about not making fun of Atwa's looks.  But is it ok if I say that she resembles Kathy Bates in "Misery?" :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 July 08, 15:52:21
I have a feeling that Kathy Bates' character is actually more lovable.  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AW on 2008 July 08, 16:01:09
I agree with not making fun of someone's appearance.  We have enough fodder with just her behavior/personality.   ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Piratey on 2008 July 08, 16:24:54
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d113/thecallumus/atwat.jpg)
I dunno. The Atwat in my game didn't seem to agree...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 July 08, 16:27:52
To me, her appearance reflects her mean-spirited and spiteful ways. Be warned people, how you are on the inside WILL show up in your mirror. And photos. Cat me for my view if you want, I really don't care.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jonze on 2008 July 08, 16:36:44
If getting banned has such an adverse effect on her health, she would drop dead and EXPLODE reading some of the stuff written about her here.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Piratey on 2008 July 08, 17:00:15
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d113/thecallumus/snapshot_f57fc6bd_357fd15f.jpg)

I tried to warn her. I really did.

The explosion is imminent.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 July 08, 17:05:10
That's taking it a step too far, IMHO, Alex. I know it's just pixels, and I'm sure you don't mean it literally, but still...a bit too far.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 July 08, 17:13:21
Allmost as distasteful as Atwa joking about someone's brain tumor. Want to be like Atwa?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: sherrie on 2008 July 08, 17:16:12
I actually think its a good representation of what atwat would want us to believe would happen if things don't go her way on TSR (or if she doesn't get that apology through the mail anytime soon)

In reality the posts here give her more zest for life as she needs drama for her very survival. The picture should be framed and entitled "life without drama"

ETA: I personally think it's different from her brain tumor remarks, due to the fact someone actually had a brain tumor. We have to remember that's far more serious than atwats attention seeking "oh mah godzz!!!!!......I iz gonna die!!!!..!!!!!..Cuz I got banned from da furumz!!!!eleventydotdotdot..!!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 July 08, 17:25:05
Yes but we all know she's a little woo-woo in the head right? Right?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 July 08, 17:32:54
To me, her appearance reflects her mean-spirited and spiteful ways. Be warned people, how you are on the inside WILL show up in your mirror. And photos.

I absolutely agree with you...fate may have dealt her a poor DNA string, but what you are on the inside will also come forward and be what people will see...to ThomASS she may be beautiful   :o  but what I see is a twisted, evil, person with a personality disorder.

Pirate Alex, that is pretty distasteful!  Even I wouldn't do that...and it's my Tumor she is making fun of!!  But Sherrie is right too, her being ill from being banned really isn't the same as my having a tumor.  She won't die from being banned.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 July 08, 17:37:38
I don't see what all the upset is about, personally. Lots of people talk about torturing self-Sims of people they don't like in their games, and I've never seen anyone get up in arms about it before. It's never something I've enjoyed doing, myself, because it seems a little too vindictive and petty to me. At the same time, it doesn't seem like it's anywhere near as reprehensible as making fun of a tumor or mocking someone's potential infertility, and spreading other people's misfortune everywhere just to gain attention for oneself.

I'm sure Atwa already knows how people here see her, so I doubt she'd be shocked by seeing someone kill her in Sim form. They're just pixels, and if anyone is personally wounded by that, then it's pretty much their problem. Maybe it wasn't the most tasteful way of expressing one's dislike of Atwa, but comparing it to Atwa's behavior is an exaggeration, IMO.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Piratey on 2008 July 08, 17:40:38
I actually think its a good representation of what atwat would want us to believe would happen if things don't go her way on TSR (or if she doesn't get that apology through the mail anytime soon)

In reality the posts here give her more zest for life as she needs drama for her very survival. The picture should be framed and entitled "life without drama"
That's pretty much it. It also represents how TSR attempt to make her disappear, and how she always seems to somehow come back again...

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d113/thecallumus/snapshot_f57fc6bd_f57fdab4.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 July 08, 17:48:56
GC, I was only saying it was distasteful, I wasn't comparing it to Atwat's behaviour...and I am not personally wounded.  :) I just thought it was distasteful...as much as I dislike the woman, I don't think the idea of killing her in pixels would have even occurred to me...I'm just not that hateful and vindictive, and I wouldn't lower myself to her level.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 July 08, 17:55:41
I know you didn't compare it to Atwa's behavior, but Nouk was saying that this kind of thing seems almost as distasteful as the way Atwa acts. I was just disagreeing, saying that this doesn't seem nearly as repulsive, to me. I can understand her stance, though.  ;)

Also, I wasn't saying that you were personally wounded, I was saying that if Atwa were personally wounded, she should get over it, because it's not really that big of a deal. I see where the confusion comes in, though: what I should have said was, "They're just pixels, and if anyone is personally wounded by someone torturing their self-Sim, then it's pretty much their problem." That sounds a little callous, though, since I would probably not be happy if I saw people posting pics of my Sim being killed in new an inventive ways, unless they were just playing. Still, I can't imagine being too hurt by it. Then again, I'm not the drama queen that Atwa is.

Like I said, I also don't torture Sims of people that I don't like, because it seems silly and kind of mean, to me. But I don't think it's particularly disgusting when other people do it. I might not want to see screenshots (hint hint), but the act itself doesn't really concern me. *shrug*   :-*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 July 08, 18:06:44
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d113/thecallumus/snapshot_f57fc6bd_f57fdab4.jpg
Personally, I think you should have zombified her.



GC, I don't make a habit of torturing the Sim-versions of my enemies either, not that I have enemies exactly, but there's a time and a place for everything. Years ago (back in the old TS1 days) I made a Sim of one of my best-friends' ex, stuck him in a room with a bunch of wicker furniture and set the room on fire while our Sim-selves watched from the hot tub outside. This was near the end of yet another crying-into-her-beer-at-my-house night, and she found the whole thing really cathartic. To this day she still refers to him as "Stupid Boy" instead of his actual name, but that's way better than some of the things she used to call him.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 July 08, 18:18:35
Falln, that's the sort of thing that Sim-torture was made for!  ;D  Like you said, there is a time and a place. I don't think Atwa-torture is really warranted unless she has injured you personally. If Dina wanted to do it, I'd have no qualms about pointing and laughing at the results, but I don't really want to see it from most people. I don't think people who do it are bad or anything, I just don't care enough about the issue to want to see it. Most of the rest of us should just be content with mocking Atwa's horrible CC and making fun of her for being a heartless, dramatic bitch.

That said, I still don't think that Sim-torture is even close to the level of cruelty as what Atwa has done to people (she spread around personal, RL issues and mocked people for it, while all Alex did was post some pictures of her image dying in a game). Maybe I'm taking it in a less serious light than some people, but I just don't see why someone would be terribly injured by seeing their self-Sim killed. Like I said, though, Atwa is just the sort of drama queen who would need to be hospitalized after seeing that.  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Piratey on 2008 July 08, 18:22:31
Dina D I had no idea about the tumor. Seriously, I only read the first several pages and the last few. This topic is like 62 pages long, so I didn't read through all of it and missed that whole part. I apologise if I caused any offence because had I known, I wouldn't have done it. I had no idea it could even be connected in that way at all. sherrie was right on the mark when she mentioned Atwa's dramaqueen like "oh mah godzz!!!!!......I iz gonna die!!!!..!!!!!..Cuz I got banned from da furumz!!!!eleventydotdotdot..!!, that was what the picture is meant to portray.

And really, it's not the same as poking fun at someone's tumor or infertility. The picture is simply mocking the fact that she's a dramawhore that thrives on attention and who practically needs it to survive, and that TSR are trying to pretty much make her disappear (hence the "her health is deteriorating" remarks). The former is malicious, because they are real, serious and highly personal matters, the latter are just pathetic and trivial matters. And in no way would I wish anyone dead in real life. At all. In fact, I know some nasty people I strongly dislike who are going into the Army. Soon their life is going to be at a somewhat permanent risk. I sure as hell do not want them to die, and pray for their safety. No way is this supposed to mean I want Atwa dead, because that's stupid. She's definitely a nasty malicious person who deserves everything she has coming to her (and has already had), but I do not wish her actual physical harm.

I don't usually torture sims either, the picture is simply mocking the fact I stated in the first paragraph. If anything, it's supposed to represent her "demise", as opposed to her actual death. Perhaps visual metaphors was the wrong way to go about it. It seems it's been misinterpreted in a mass of confusion.

Perhaps a fairer representation would have been this picture. This represents how she was represented on TSR. She was given all the attention for her subpar creations and got all her similar cronies onboard while overshadowing those who actually worked hard to get where they are and produced high quality items. I'll miss out the part where Tomass gets into a catfight with her and wins...
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d113/thecallumus/snapshot_f57fc6bd_d57fe082.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 July 08, 18:34:27
I think you are all taking this way too seriously.   :P

(http://i28.tinypic.com/230emp.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 July 08, 18:52:55
Goodness.  This was a long and turbulent read.

So, what exactly is going on now, is she still 'retired' and yet apparently still being a thorn in someone's side?

And totally agree on the inner nature affecting looks.  Its the only reason I can think of why folks keep saying I'm pretty when the mirror says otherwise :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 July 08, 19:09:36
Alex, no problem!  ;D actually while I didn't like the picture, I wasn't all that offended and I do know that you were in no way bringing brain tumors and infertility into the picture  ;) I guess I am a bit out of touch really, cause it never would have occured to me to do that to a sims...out of touch or too old, not sure which! ;D

regardless, that last one made me spit my coffee out! Very good!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 July 08, 19:15:07
I think you are all taking this way too seriously.   :P

That's what I was trying to say originally!  ;D  Nobody actually killed Atwa, they just killed a Sim that looks like her. I don't see why anyone would see it as anything more than that, but to each his own, I guess. I can imagine that Atwa herself would be offended, but I don't particularly feel like protecting her feelings over something so petty.

Also, awesome pic, MissA.

And Pirate Alex, it seems to me that nobody was actually offended, so I wouldn't worry about it. Nobody around here tends to take things too personally, but they're still willing to tell you if they think you're going too far (even when they aren't personally offended). Some people might agree with them, others might not, and most of us aren't afraid to make our opinions known. That's one of the nice things about the phorum.  ;)

Edited because I forgot to remove the image tag. Bad, GC! Bad!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AW on 2008 July 08, 19:15:41
Alex....here's a little link for you  ;D

http://www.blood4sims.com/html/torturechamber1.html (http://www.blood4sims.com/html/torturechamber1.html)

ETA:  Miss A, you crack me up  ;)  I totally agree. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Piratey on 2008 July 08, 19:27:55
Well at least that clears the air. I guess I'm just used to the being eaten alive nature of MATY lol

@ Dina D: The second paragraph was directed at some other people really. Glad you liked the picture though lol  :P The more I look at it, the more I realise how accurate it really is... :D

@ Armywife: lol nice link. That chair certainly looks comfortable. They're quite good quality items, considering they were converted from Sims 1 counterparts. Seeing as the MATY senators show some form of approval for a torture chamber in their new building, I better start decking it out...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 July 08, 22:09:54
Pffft you're not gonna get eaten alive any time soon. People just have opinions and respond to what you post, that's all. I still think killing someone's likeness is creepy at the least, but that's another of many opinions.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AW on 2008 July 08, 22:27:21
Noukie....how do you feel about orgies?  :P :-* :-*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 July 08, 23:03:26
Orgies?

/pale pokes head into this conversation


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Ry on 2008 July 08, 23:07:41
*sits quietly awaiting MOAR talk of these orgies*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 July 08, 23:54:58
*Pooki sits beside Ry and Tomato waiting patiently.*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 July 09, 00:10:23
*thinks rye and tomato sounds like a pretty good sandwich*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 July 09, 00:37:56
Orgies and sandwiches?

My interest is piqued.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 July 09, 00:44:12
BYOB, clothing and extra toys optional. Bring your own protection and no biting!

As for killing pixel people, my former therapist actually recommended it for dealing with my hostility towards my first two ex-husbands, she said that way I'd get the anger out and not really kill someone.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 July 09, 00:52:02
Orgies and Atwats don't mix.   ;)   *points to the thread title*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 July 09, 00:55:46
Who said that she was invited? It's about time for the PMBD orgy, isn't it?? I mean, we had one last year, so shouldn't this be kind of traditional?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Scurvy Wench on 2008 July 09, 01:00:53
Orgies huh? I'll bring brownies and the cool whip.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 July 09, 01:10:20
I'll bring my fur and the rum-soaked popcorn!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: BobbinRobbin on 2008 July 09, 01:27:09
I'll bring myself and be one of the whore d'oeuvres.        ;D ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Markus on 2008 July 09, 01:28:19
I'll bring my camera and take pics.  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 July 09, 01:32:15
(http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL646/2837408/18898310/324680269.jpg)


I'll bring safety goggles and my Barry White collection.



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dexter on 2008 July 09, 02:10:25
Even though they're listed as retired artists, Tantra and Confide's stuff is still pay. I thought that retired artist's stuff goes free after the artist leaves...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: ValancySterling on 2008 July 09, 02:14:13
Even though they're listed as retired artists, Tantra and Confide's stuff is still pay. I thought that retired artist's stuff goes free after the artist leaves...

Its supposed to but Thomass tends to "forget" that.  So unless someone complains, it stays pay and he makes teh moniez.


As for the orgy, I have the lime green jello if someone has a bathtub to put it in.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AW on 2008 July 09, 02:33:52
I have a jacuzzi tub with jets  ;D ;D

Also have the hand-cuffs and rope should anyone need them.  :P  Please remove all spikey heels at the door.  :-*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Tempest Limmerfer on 2008 July 09, 02:44:17
 ;D What about spikey heels that match handcuffs? I am thinking a matched set in leopard print?

OR

If you have the rope, how about a cowgirl theme? I can wear my boots and spurs then.

OR

A meat-slab theme? I can bring the rare steaks although Paden will be nicking them at every chance she gets. Cats gotta have the beef.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 July 09, 02:45:49
Oooh, themes! I like. :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AW on 2008 July 09, 03:27:11
Ok Tempest, but if you were spikey heels and handcuffs in leopard print, don't forget the matching undies and fishnets.   The spurs....hmm, now there's a new one.



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 July 09, 03:32:33
I don't touch girly bits and prefer to be the center of attention, but if you want to throw a few guys my way while ya'll are busy with the hottub, I'm not complaining.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 July 09, 03:36:15
I hate you guys sometimes.   :o  no, really, I do.   :-*  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: BobbinRobbin on 2008 July 09, 03:51:31
hehe...an orgy derailment of an anti-Atwat thread....somehow, that's priceless...and very appropriate, hehehe.

 :D ;D :D ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 July 09, 03:58:34
I hate you guys sometimes.   :o  no, really, I do.   :-*  ;)

Ah, does that mean you won't be joining us?  :'(  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 July 09, 04:10:19
I hate you guys sometimes.   :o  no, really, I do.   :-*  ;)

Ah, does that mean you won't be joining us?  :'(  ;)

Yep.  I'm afraid I'm off the market goods.  I'm sorry you cannot partake in the deliciousness that is me.   :D  *hands you a hankie to wipe away your tears*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Tempest Limmerfer on 2008 July 09, 06:03:39
Quote
Ok Tempest, but if you were spikey heels and handcuffs in leopard print, don't forget the matching undies and fishnets.   The spurs....hmm, now there's a new one.

Gotta wear undies??? ;D

Oh boy! Maybe this will inspire one of the "designers" that we love ***dripping sarcasm***.
They can do a sim with the above, including the spurs....

And I am thinking about the pool, Daggs...afraid the spurs would be deadly in that.

And I do have to say, I prefer Birkenstocks to spikey heels...wonder how fishnets would look with them?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jess Maree on 2008 July 09, 06:39:57
Sorry guys, I don't think I'll come hang out at the orgy. I'll sit outside with my Juicy Juice and be the designated driver ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: keirra on 2008 July 09, 06:57:01
I'm with you, Jess.  Orgies make me uncomfortable, even virtual ones. xD


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 July 09, 07:01:44
In that case, I'll bring a bunch of towels for your car. (Since we seem have a bath tub full of jello, a wading pool full of pudding, and possibly some raw meat.) And rum of course. We are all bringing rum, right?

I don't have any fetish or cowboy gear, but I do have  The Best Docs Evar (http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5213/21109380572580548a43onm5.jpg)!

*edited out extra random code and added proper tags. What? I was tired!*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 July 09, 12:23:48
 :D Ehm... I'll go have some apple-juice.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jess Maree on 2008 July 09, 12:24:40
Nah, I'm too young and I'm a one woman kinda person :P Oh, and Fallen_Angel, you're IMG tags are mucked up.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 July 09, 15:05:12
I don't know how to orgy. :'(  I've lead a very sheltered life.

But I'll join Jess Maree in the car.  She and I can share driving duties. :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: celligirl on 2008 July 09, 15:51:39
I don't do orgies, but I'll serenade you all with my cello. I'm sure if I try hard enough I can make it sound like a smarmy saxophone. ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Piratey on 2008 July 09, 16:11:09
So, uh, is there actually anyone left to do this orgy, or has everyone bailed out?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 July 09, 16:52:01
Having 'twat' in a thread title doesn't automatically get you an orgy.... *writes down to remember*

anyway, here's (http://www.surefit.net/ucc2007/ucc2007_prevwinners.cfm) inspiration for some great couches.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 July 09, 16:55:23
So, uh, is there actually anyone left to do this orgy, or has everyone bailed out?
Sorry, kiddo. Looks like it's just you, you, and you for tonight.

Jess Maree, I'm totally a one-guy girl. Did the whole threesome thing once. Not all it's cracked up to be. Keep to the monogamy.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: CaptainChris on 2008 July 09, 17:13:56
Jess Maree, I'm totally a one-guy girl. Did the whole threesome thing once. Not all it's cracked up to be. Keep to the monogamy.

I'm with ya there. Ex tried to get me into it multiple times, I couldn't switch of the conscience part of my mind to go ahead with it, ick.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Piratey on 2008 July 09, 17:34:47
So, uh, is there actually anyone left to do this orgy, or has everyone bailed out?
Sorry, kiddo. Looks like it's just you, you, and you for tonight.
Woah, woah, woah. I never necessarily said I'd take part (one person orgies are called something else thank you very much), I was merely curious ;D.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Tabby on 2008 July 09, 17:43:32
  So, if there is no orgy, can I still have a sandwich? ???


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: spunkysim on 2008 July 09, 18:05:35
I was just going to offer to make the sandwiches.   ;D

anyway, here's (http://www.surefit.net/ucc2007/ucc2007_prevwinners.cfm) inspiration for some great couches.

Nouk, I am in love with those couches... will you be making the whole series??   :o


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 July 09, 18:21:39
  So, if there is no orgy, can I still have a sandwich? ???

/pale pokes head out at the mention of sammich.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Tempest Limmerfer on 2008 July 09, 18:57:09
Well, I wasn't into the orgy part (love my hubby!), but I did want to play dress-up!

Once I got the costume down to Birkenstocks, fishnets, spurs, and leopard print accessories, I was happy!

I am gonna sit on the car (that Jess and Diet are in) and be the hood ornament. That is my true calling.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: BobbinRobbin on 2008 July 09, 20:00:54

anyway, here's (http://www.surefit.net/ucc2007/ucc2007_prevwinners.cfm) inspiration for some great couches.


If you like those, try these beautiful "items" (http://www.naturalsims.com/aprilfool.html)...hehe...apparently, they had a fugly contest for April Fools Day...hehe.



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: tonnerbopper on 2008 July 09, 21:07:38
Oh, ick.   ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 July 09, 22:56:51
Well, at least they know that the living room is ugly. That's better than a lot of the stuff I've seen on TSR um, other sites.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 July 09, 23:13:35
damn, I'm too late, the orgy has been cancelled??!!??  :-\  well I guess I will have to go off and eat all this hot fudge and whip cream by myself...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: LadyDea on 2008 July 09, 23:32:02
Poo, I was looking forward to this orgy as well. I dug out my whip and everything.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 July 10, 00:58:04
Where's the meat, I'm hungry again.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zillah on 2008 July 10, 02:05:53
Sammich orgy instead?
z


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: ValancySterling on 2008 July 10, 03:32:54
anyway, here's (http://www.surefit.net/ucc2007/ucc2007_prevwinners.cfm) inspiration for some great couches.

I love the crown shaped bordello couch...someone needs to make that for sims....


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: WedgewoodBlue on 2008 July 10, 04:39:28
damn, I'm too late, the orgy has been cancelled??!!??  :-\  well I guess I will have to go off and eat all this hot fudge and whip cream by myself...

Hey wait up, you have chocolate?? I am so there!  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SamanthaS on 2008 July 10, 04:48:26
anyway, here's (http://www.surefit.net/ucc2007/ucc2007_prevwinners.cfm) inspiration for some great couches.

I love the crown shaped bordello couch...someone needs to make that for sims....

Vita Sims came close with a couple of couches from her pay sets:

The one the Sim is lounging on in this pic:
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x283/lucyvanklinken/VicLibrary5.gif)

and this lovely:

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x283/lucyvanklinken/cablancaLiving9.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 July 10, 05:09:32
That god awful Atwat picture I really could have done without... it just brings up a spittle of pity in my mouth. Not pleasant.

Speaking of things we would like in the Sims (namely furniture) I want this!: http://ifitshipitshere.blogspot.com/2007/09/judson-beaumonts-cartoon-furniture.html

(I still can't figure out how to properly link things on forums, my apologies!)



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Scurvy Wench on 2008 July 10, 07:34:27
anyway, here's (http://www.surefit.net/ucc2007/ucc2007_prevwinners.cfm) inspiration for some great couches.

I love the crown shaped bordello couch...someone needs to make that for sims....

Nouk, I beg you to make those couches, ugly furry covers and all. Those look like some of the couches that are STILL hanging around my high school. If there is one thing this game needs, it's really well done cheep and tasteless things.  ;D I'm a whore for chinzy looking stuff.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Emma on 2008 July 10, 08:01:29
That god awful Atwat picture I really could have done without... it just brings up a spittle of pity in my mouth. Not pleasant.

Speaking of things we would like in the Sims (namely furniture) I want this!: http://ifitshipitshere.blogspot.com/2007/09/judson-beaumonts-cartoon-furniture.html

(I still can't figure out how to properly link things on forums, my apologies!)



Those are fun! I like the peeing table :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 July 10, 10:31:00
Hey wait up, you have chocolate?? I am so there!  ;D

I haz lots of chocolate  :D  And you never need a special occasion to have it either  ;)

/me passes Wedgewood Blue some chocolate
 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 July 10, 20:02:33
Speaking of things we would like in the Sims (namely furniture) I want this!: http://ifitshipitshere.blogspot.com/2007/09/judson-beaumonts-cartoon-furniture.html

(I still can't figure out how to properly link things on forums, my apologies!)

Some of those are fantastic!

(To make links, use codes like this (but without the x's): [urlx=insert the url here]and insert the words that you want to be the link here[/urlx]. Hope that helps.  ;) )


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 July 10, 21:16:06
Speaking of things we would like in the Sims (namely furniture) I want this!: http://ifitshipitshere.blogspot.com/2007/09/judson-beaumonts-cartoon-furniture.html

(I still can't figure out how to properly link things on forums, my apologies!)

(To make links, use codes like this (but without the x's): [urlx=insert the url here]and insert the words that you want to be the link here[/urlx]. Hope that helps.  ;) )

So,
Code:
I want [url=http://ifitshipitshere.blogspot.com/2007/09/judson-beaumonts-cartoon-furniture.html]this![/url]
(Love those code tags!)
would make:
I want this! (http://ifitshipitshere.blogspot.com/2007/09/judson-beaumonts-cartoon-furniture.html)

And I love just about everything on that page, especially the peeing table. I could maybe get away with one of the more normal dressers, but The Boy would never
feel comfortable sharing a house with that table. *sigh* In everything else, he's a keeper. I swear!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Renegade on 2008 July 10, 23:10:22
Since we're teaching how to use forum code, can someone tell me if that red "action" text, i.e:

Quote
* Dina passes Wedgewood Blue some chocolate

is manual?  Or is a code used?  I'm thinking it's manual but I dunno..and now I feel a bit stupid  :-[


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 July 11, 00:04:20
Since we're teaching how to use forum code, can someone tell me if that red "action" text, i.e:

Quote
* Dina passes Wedgewood Blue some chocolate

is manual?  Or is a code used?  I'm thinking it's manual but I dunno..and now I feel a bit stupid  :-[

it's code and it's easy :D

use your code wraps [ ] and inside the first one put  me=Your Name Here   then you type your message followed by another code wrap thingy with this inside      /me

/me shows Renegade how to write the code



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 July 11, 00:43:32
it's code and it's easy :D

use your code wraps [ ] and inside the first one put  me=Your Name Here   then you type your message followed by another code wrap thingy with this inside      /me

/me shows Renegade how to write the code

Which is cool and stuff, but wouldn't it be easier to just add an asterisk and change the text to red? ???


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 July 11, 01:20:13

Which is cool and stuff, but wouldn't it be easier to just add an asterisk and change the text to red? ???

 probably for some :D but I can type it faster than highlighting the text and hitting change color  ;) lol


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AW on 2008 July 11, 02:27:05
Ach, Renegade, no one would ever accuse you of being stupid.  Plus, we still want all the goods  :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 July 11, 03:30:33
Renegade here (http://www.phpbb.com/community/faq.php?mode=bbcode) is a site that will give you all the information you need. Sometimes it's easier to have a reference page to look at. You can just bookmark it then use it as you need. There are others also, just search for BBCode.

I know you probably know most of this already, I'm just offering it up for anyone that may want to learn.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 July 11, 16:58:30
(To make links, use codes like this (but without the x's): [urlx=insert the url here]and insert the words that you want to be the link here[/urlx]. Hope that helps.  ;) )

Code:
I want [url=http://ifitshipitshere.blogspot.com/2007/09/judson-beaumonts-cartoon-furniture.html]this![/url]
(Love those code tags!)

 :o  Yay! I didn't know about that sort of code tags! Makes sense, and it's a lot neater and tidier than the way I did it. You learn something knew every day. :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AW on 2008 July 11, 22:01:48
Yes, I like the coding as well.  Either way, it doesn't really matter.

And Dina D, I forgot to request my chocolate.  May I have some?  Please?  :-* :-*  (BTW, hope you are feeling better these days)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 July 12, 00:09:30
And Dina D, I forgot to request my chocolate.  May I have some?  Please?  :-* :-*  (BTW, hope you are feeling better these days)

I am feeling much better thank you  ;D  doesn't hurt, just weird knowing  you have this thing in your head and they are going to leave it there for now  :D  and yes, you may have some chocolate

/me passes Armywife some chocolate


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Renegade on 2008 July 12, 01:08:38
/me tests out weird BBcode using code method.

* Renegade uses the "write with an asterisk, highlight, and turn to red" method. Finds this easier.

Ach, Renegade, no one would ever accuse you of being stupid.  Plus, we still want all the goods  :P

YOU NO CAN HAZ GOODS. Well..only cuz i'm offline.  Then you may have some. :)

Or, wait, by "goods" did you mean SEXUAL goods?  Because then you can have all you want, baby ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Titan on 2008 July 12, 02:16:00
Thank you kenmtl for the link, I've been trying to figure out how that worked because it does look alot neater that posting the whole address.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 July 12, 03:29:09
Hey thanks guys! Now I know how to link :P
Aw this place.... jumping from Atwat onto code... only in PMBD!
I miss it so.. 30 min 5 days a week just isn't enough  :'(

Counting days till Tuesday! New laptop day!  :-*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Yaardarm Monkey II on 2008 July 12, 04:41:37

Aw this place.... jumping from Atwat onto code... only in PMBD!




and back to Atwat.... the shocking truth about Atwat!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzBVxQDtEOE)

 :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 July 12, 04:56:04
*screams with laughter* That was without a doubt, priceless!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 July 12, 08:15:55
Red Red Red Red
Green Green Green Green
Blue Blue Blue Blue


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 July 12, 15:28:14
Aw, apparently I didn't get enough sleep last night. After a moment or two of fairly extreme cognitive dissonance, I finally figured out what was wrong with what you typed, Nouk.  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: spunkysim on 2008 July 12, 18:14:42
Red Red Red Red
Green Green Green Green
Blue Blue Blue Blue

Someone has had too much rum.  It may be me.  Moar please??


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: keirra on 2008 July 12, 18:17:27
Ha! I read Nouk's post last night, and didn't notice....I must have been too tired.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 July 12, 19:18:46
What is fun is to try and read the words with the colour instead of the actual word. Say that red is written in blue and you have to read it as blue instead of red. That really screws with some people's heads.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Druid on 2008 July 13, 00:37:48
Yeah, I think it's an indication of how left vs right brained you are. It's been awhile since someone showed me, but I think they said it's right-brained people who can say the colors without problem and left-brainers who stumble a bit and want to just read the words. Despite the tests I've taken that peg me as exactly middle-brained (or slightly right), I stumble a lot.

How many of you can do it? I'm curious. Seems most people have a hard time with it.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 July 13, 00:56:03
Yeah, I think it's an indication of how left vs right brained you are. It's been awhile since someone showed me, but I think they said it's right-brained people who can say the colors without problem and left-brainers who stumble a bit and want to just read the words. Despite the tests I've taken that peg me as exactly middle-brained (or slightly right), I stumble a lot.

How many of you can do it? I'm curious. Seems most people have a hard time with it.

I read the text without a problem.  Of course I see the colors are different from the words but it doesn't bother me at all.  XD  Am I weirder?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Ash Redfern on 2008 July 13, 01:09:42
Yeah, I think it's an indication of how left vs right brained you are. It's been awhile since someone showed me, but I think they said it's right-brained people who can say the colors without problem and left-brainers who stumble a bit and want to just read the words. Despite the tests I've taken that peg me as exactly middle-brained (or slightly right), I stumble a lot.
It is actually the Stroop effect which causes the stumbling. Most humans are so proficient at reading printed words that they cannot easily ignore them and when they have to choose to ignore the word and instead focus on another aspect of it, such as the color instead, this causes interference. 

The Stroop effect takes advantage of our ability to read words more quickly and automatically than we can name colors. I'm unsure how much, if any, being left or right brained would have upon the effect, but most people do tend to struggle with the task regardless.


I read the text without a problem.  Of course I see the colors are different from the words but it doesn't bother me at all.  XD  Am I weirder?
Not weird, just that you are good at directed attention.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Druid on 2008 July 13, 01:18:21
It is actually the Stroop effect which causes the stumbling. Most humans are so proficient at reading printed words that they cannot easily ignore them and when they have to choose to ignore the word and instead focus on another aspect of it, such as the color instead, this causes interference. 

The Stroop effect takes advantage of our ability to read words more quickly and automatically than we can name colors. I'm unsure how much, if any, being left or right brained would have upon the effect, but most people do tend to struggle with the task regardless.
Ah, then the next time I see this person I'll inform him he was wrong. (Gleefully I might add - he's an insufferable know it all. :D)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 July 13, 03:16:40
Due to my obsession with my DS, and the Train Your Brain game, I have no problem reading the text first, and then reading the colours second. :)



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 July 13, 04:32:33
I read the text without a problem.  Of course I see the colors are different from the words but it doesn't bother me at all.  XD  Am I weirder?

I read the words without a problem, but it took me a moment to realize that the text was a different color. Being familiar with this particular trick (thanks to psychology classes from a few years ago), it didn't really trip me up, but it did take half a second to notice what I was seeing.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 July 13, 04:54:32
speaking of psychology.... a neat little trick  ;D

Get some people into a room and have them sit down of course. At least two people, and have them face each other. Now slowly turn the light on and off, while ringing a bell at the same time. Such as:

*light off and bell*.......*light on*........*light off and bell*........*light on*

Have the people notice how the eyes dilate with the light changes, hence needing a bit of time between the flicks.

And keep doing it for a couple of minutes. Eventually it will get to a point of where you can ring a bell without flicking the light and their eyes will dilate automatically. Now it won't work on everyone, but it does work with a majority of people.

Basically it's subconsciously training their body to react to sounds/sights/smells, and you can literally do it with almost anything   :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Yaardarm Monkey II on 2008 July 13, 05:29:31
how very Pavlovian   :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 July 13, 05:48:40
 ;) how very clever!

http://www.personalityresearch.org/papers/naik.html

Had to do a whole project for it for my psyche class one year.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 July 14, 12:58:15
On the subject of perception, here's a fun left/right brain thing that's kind of amusing.

 Dancer (http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22535838-5012895,00.html)

One day at uni I had 5 or 6 people all standing around my comp staring at it. At first everyone saw the same thing, then they started to see it change at different times. It was interesting that no two people saw the change happen at the same time. It was quite funny seeing their reactions when it happened. I got a little OCD for awhile about trying to control it.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 July 14, 13:03:24
No matter how long I stare, it keeps going clockwise. Maybe I'm just too impatient. Is there a certain point I should focus on to "make" it appear to turn the opposite direction, or did I just not give it enough time?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 July 14, 13:17:05
Actually I also see it totally clockwise, but I find that if I stare at the foot on the ground and focus really hard on making it change, I can sometimes get it to happen.
You have to be patient though it can take awhile

 Like more than 8:58:15 till 9:03:24.

*Sorry GC  but I had to tease you on that one  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 July 14, 13:17:40
I originally saw it going clockwise, but I can change it at will.  What I do is let my eyes unfocus and look at the shadow on the bottom. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 July 14, 13:24:02
Ahhhh creepy.... I looked away for one second and then it went the other way :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 July 14, 13:50:15
You have to be patient though it can take awhile

 Like more than 8:58:15 till 9:03:24.

*Sorry GC  but I had to tease you on that one  ;)

Pfffff...longer than five minutes? Not interested.  ;)

Hey, a shiny thing! *wanders away*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: fhat cat on 2008 July 14, 15:08:08
Ok, I first saw it clockwise and now it's appearing counter-clockwise.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: celligirl on 2008 July 14, 16:05:06
I've never been able to see that dancer spinning anything but clockwise, no matter how long I've stared and tried to make my brain see differently. But then all of these right/left tests I take -- even ones with psychologists way back when -- seem to indicate that I'm so right brained that one wonders if I even have a left hemisphere. No wonder I do math differently than everyone else I know. And why I always sucked at math in school because I could never show my work. 'Cuz I don't do it in steps, you see. That never made sense to me and I always got so frustrated (sometimes to the point of tears) in math class. When the right/left stuff became popular, people started having an indication as to why I got the right answer, but not the "right" way. :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 July 14, 16:14:21
Here is a blog article that disagrees with the spinning dancer's predictions:

http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/23/right-versus-left-brain-what-does-the-spinning-dancer-teach-us/


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: CaptainChris on 2008 July 14, 16:30:56
Hrmm, I was able to get to to switch directions at will.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 July 14, 16:43:14
I can make it switch by focusing on different points.  Like kenmtl it fascinated me - like I was trying to beat some stupid game.  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 July 14, 16:51:30
I spent too much time trying to figure out how the programming might have worked (the thing kept switching directions the whole time as I was trying to figure it out). I haven't yet...I know there is some optical trick there, but I can't seem to grok it. Meanwhile, she turns to the left, then turns to the right, then turns to the left, then turns to the right....


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Piratey on 2008 July 14, 16:56:10
Somehow, I can just "make" it switch directions at will. Just this mean I'm middle brained or something? :D Interesting though.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 July 14, 17:45:35
That dancing girl thing is freaking me out. At first she was stubbornly refusing to turn counter-clockwise, but I eventually realised that I can make her change direction by staring just past the left-hand edge of my monitor and visualizing myself grabbing her leg and spinning her the other way. (She has yet to change direction 'live'.) The weirdest part is that once I've turned her, if I go away and come back she'll be spinning in the same direction I left her in (as opposed to reverting to clockwise, which is what I would have guessed).


Celligirl, I was kind of the same way with math in school, especially with geometry. I used to frustrate my teachers because I'd usually get the right answer but never be able to show my work. How was I supposed to do that, though, when my method consisted of drawing random shapes and moving them around in my head for a while until I suddenly knew the answer was 42 degrees?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zillah on 2008 July 14, 18:11:35
At first she was cc'wise for me and wouldn't change, but by watching her outstretched arm instead of her body, I was able to start switching her direction. As far as the blog goes:
Here is a blog article that disagrees with the spinning dancer's predictions:
http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/23/right-versus-left-brain-what-does-the-spinning-dancer-teach-us/

has anyone but me ever read Freakonomics? It's a totally fascinating book.
z


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 July 14, 18:15:59
The funniest part about not being able to make the dancer go counter-clockwise is that I'm not entirely "right-brained," as it is traditionally described. I'm quite good at math and even started college as a physics major; I switched to literature not because I wasn't good at science (I was top in my class), but because I like literature more. Does this mean I have both sides of my brain working, but I intentionally block the left side out? Seems possible.  ;)

But I still. Can't. Make. It. Switch. Directions.

I really am impatient.  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 July 14, 18:32:35
Okay, the NY Times has bailed me out again - with this explanation and links to visuals to help understand the illusion: http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/the-truth-about-the-spinning-dancer/



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: cookiepirate on 2008 July 14, 18:42:45
I can also get her to switch back and forth (so much so my eyes started to hurt... :o), but at one point, she would freeze for a second before turning the other direction.  Why?  Is my brain slow to switch?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: glasscigarette on 2008 July 14, 18:50:07
I see a little freezy skip on every rotation.  ???


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 July 14, 18:57:28
I was able to make her change directions back and forth. Pretty freaky.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: celligirl on 2008 July 14, 19:57:12
Celligirl, I was kind of the same way with math in school, especially with geometry. I used to frustrate my teachers because I'd usually get the right answer but never be able to show my work. How was I supposed to do that, though, when my method consisted of drawing random shapes and moving them around in my head for a while until I suddenly knew the answer was 42 degrees?

Yeah, I see numbers as pictures and as parts of ten, which I then manipulate in my head, not on paper. So, kind of the same thing. I had a similar problem with geometry. My brain just doesn't think sequentially in steps, but in blocks of data which it then moves around. Music makes sense to me not because it's "math," per se, but because it's parts of 4 (or 3 or 6 or 2 or 9 or 13 or whatever, depending on the meter). So, I pretty much always get the right answer in math but not by using the "right" method. I always thought it was silly that they only teach one way to do arithmetic and that everyone has to follow the stupid steps. Who cares, so long as you get the right answer and aren't just copying answers from the person sitting next to you?  :P

As for the whole right brain/left brain thing...I don't know; I'm pretty skeptical of it. I was in high school when it became a big thing and everyone in this class I was taking took this test for it and blah, blah. Given that and my strange math thing, I was held up as a shining example of right-brainedness. I think it's a lot more complicated than just what half of your brain you use.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: uknortherner on 2008 July 14, 22:02:29
Actually I also see it totally clockwise, but I find that if I stare at the foot on the ground and focus really hard on making it change, I can sometimes get it to happen.
You have to be patient though it can take awhile

 Like more than 8:58:15 till 9:03:24.

*Sorry GC  but I had to tease you on that one  ;)

I find it goes clockwise, until I look at the reflection at the bottom - the reflection always goes the opposite way, and it became quite easy to trick my brain into thinking it was going anticlockwise... And back again.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 July 14, 22:16:55
I could only get her to go clockwise, but then as I was reading the article and had scrolled down, I glanced back up at her feet and suddenly she was going counter-clockwise. Huh.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Feverish on 2008 July 14, 22:17:15
I'm kinda angry now because I only see her spinning clockwise. I've tried to look at different spots, tried to blur my eyes, tried to lok away and back and she still only spins clockwise. It's annoying.


EDIT: Nevermind! I did it! Yay. It's really hard to do.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: LadyDea on 2008 July 14, 22:22:32
I was starring at her, trying to will her to go counter-clockwise, but then I noticed her rather pointy nipples. XD


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 July 15, 00:46:27
I tried to be fair and not read the article or any of the responses and stared at the girl. Turning clockwise.
Alright! I said, turning to the article, when I read the entire thing, and understood that it was defining which area of the brain saw her turning clockwise, I turned to stare at her again, only to have her going anti clockwise! WTF? I said and tried to make her go clockwise again. She wouldn't.
Then Freddy came and sat on my lap, I gulped some coffee, scratched under his chin and stared at the girl again. Clockwise...

So perhaps celli is right, it really depends what side of your brain you are using at the time :)
I have an analytical mind, am quite grounded in logic, but I am also batshit crazy and totally random :D Awesome.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Quinctia on 2008 July 15, 02:03:31
I think it's however you catch it, honestly.  I'm not really any brained (I think all that stuff is bunk), and it depends on the day which way the thing's turning, or if I can make it switch.

It's just what you immediately process.  It's a more complicated version of what I think of as the Crow effect.  Ever seen Mystery Science Theater?

Well, look at the silhouettes of the robots.  If you think about it, you can process Crow as either facing the screen or facing you:
(http://i33.tinypic.com/29osf0l.jpg)

(Crow is the one with the metal catcher's mitt contraption on his head, for those not in the know.)
(http://i35.tinypic.com/vnktih.jpg)

It's like the curvature of the head makes it easier to process that either way of facing the screen could be correct.

It also reminds me of the right half of the Windows XP logo, which can alternate between convex and concave, to me.  For some reason, I can't get the left side to do double duty like that, though.
(http://i37.tinypic.com/i2m42b.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 July 15, 02:09:17
And here I thought the Crow Effect was the compulsion to sing the credits. :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 July 15, 02:28:25
Damn I miss that show.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alliecat on 2008 July 15, 03:57:09
Huh. The first time I saw that dancer thing it was really easy for me to switch it back and forth, but this time it was not. I wonder what makes the difference.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: ValancySterling on 2008 July 15, 15:14:00
Damn I miss that show.

It's not quite the same, Joel and some of the other cast members have a new movie riffing project Cinematic Titanic (http://cinematictitanic.com/wpmu/)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 July 15, 15:57:41
Thank you!!!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Quinctia on 2008 July 15, 17:20:05
Mike Nelson has been doing commentary tracks to an assortment of movies at rifftrax (http://www.rifftrax.com/) for a couple of years.  With various co-commentators, from other MST3K alumni to Weird Al Yankovic.

You buy the track and then sync it up to the movie, though they apparently have a player that can do it automatically.

I did ARR a couple before anything else, and they are worth the money.

And Hecubus, the most memorable credits singing I think was Tom Servo singing during the end of The Final Sacrifice.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 July 15, 18:32:10
Oh, I forgot about that one! My favorite two episodes have to be Jack Frost and Puma Man. ("I am a wood nymph!")

I keep looking at the rifftrax, but wasn't sure if it was worth it. But on your recommendation, I shall pursue!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Quinctia on 2008 July 15, 20:36:03
My philosophy is always ARR first, buy later.  It's how I got into my favorite band and lord knows how much money I've spent on them over the years, after all.  You might want to try a couple different movies before buying, in case you find there's a certain genre of film you'd rather not see riffed (I don't really understand how riffing could make Roadhouse FUNNIER than it already is).

I liked The Fellowship of the Ring, though I couldn't do it all in one sitting.  And though I think the Star Wars prequels are hilarious on their own, they are even better riffed.  The Fifth Element riff was so-so, but I think the movie laughs at itself enough to where riffs don't add as much as they do to some movies.

I think I'm going to try out the Harry Potter one next.  I already viewed it with Wizard People, Dear Reader (http://www.illegal-art.org/video/wizard.html) as its audio, so I'm pretty sure I'd enjoy riffing.  And I definitely am going to get Jurassic Park because...dude, Weird Al!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 July 15, 22:46:19
I have so bookmarked these sites.  Thanks!  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 July 15, 23:00:21
Mike Nelson has been doing commentary tracks to an assortment of movies at rifftrax (http://www.rifftrax.com/) for a couple of years.  With various co-commentators, from other MST3K alumni to Weird Al Yankovic.

I checked out a few of the samples. It's a lot like watching MTS3K, I think, but with occasionally-better movies and without the silhouettes in the foreground. I think if I ever sit down to watch a full one, I might need a few cutouts to put in front of the TV screen. ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 July 15, 23:23:27
So while everyone else's mind was rotating the dancer clockwise or counterclockwise, mine was trying to decipher the following "sentence"-

RIGHT BRAIN FUNCTIONS
uses feeling
"big picture" oriented
imagination rules
symbols and images
present and future
philosophy & religion
can "get it" (i.e. meaning)
believes
appreciates
spatial perception
knows object function
fantasy based
presents possibilities
impetuous
risk taking

- Honestly, I scare myself sometimes.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Renegade on 2008 July 16, 08:29:24
I think it's all bullshit.  I swear, the dancing girl slows down and then pauses right before she switches.  First I saw her going ..counter-clockwise, I think?  Then I "unfocused" and stared at her foot, at which point she went the other direction and remained spinning in that direction.  At a certain point, I thought I broke something internally, because I couldn't get her to switch back on command. 

Then, when I wasn't even unfocused - I was staring right at this bitch - she slows down, pauses, and changes direction.

SCAM. >:(


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 July 16, 11:32:13
I'm not even going to try the dancing girl--those kinds of things never work for me. :(

But in unrelated news, while Atwa may be banned/retired/disappeared, BeaSims has a new set up at TSR with a threat of more to follow.  The creative spurt continues. :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Surelyfunke on 2008 July 18, 13:36:21
So, anymore news on what the deal is with Atwa's bannination? Coconut, care to weigh in on that?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: coconut on 2008 July 18, 23:58:18
  Update on the Atwa vs everyone saga. She did not get her apology from Tug, and god knows she's tried every pathetic sympathy raising bullshit she can think of to get it, She's pissed to say the least, she's finally given up reporting her to Tom and has now reported Tug Kath and Tom to Steve. She seems to be under the impression Steve will either force Tug to apologise or force Tom to come down on Tug, However Steve will do nothing of the sort, He's well aware that Atwa has brought on all her problems herself, and indeed that most of them reside in her head.

 Her profile has been changed back for some time, but she just will not let it drop, raking up the same old shit she was raking over a year ago, still causing trouble for people like Aikea and the NS crew who have long left TSR, she's like a dog with a bone, but uglier, accusing everyone of being a party to her profile change. Needless to say no one is listening to her, no one gives a rats ass. I am now several people, the latest of my personalities being Tug and Kath. This is the only excuse she can come up with for accusing everyone of being me, and being right about all of them! She reckons that several people post here under the name of Coconut, and it takes all of them to write each post, thus she was correct with all her accusations in the past right up to the present. Earth calling Atwa.... Don't you see how mind numbingly insane you are? Even Jan needs less medication. We/I, the several coconuts, are jealous because she kissed Tom twice in secret.. so she says, if that were true and it was a secret, then how would we/I know? and why do we/I care what happens in her head? She's also accusing Tom of thinking more about his homelife and the house he is building than he does of her and her situation. That may be the one thing she is right about.

 She wants everyone to sort out her problems for her, if they don't, she will report them to someone 'higher' and in her words she will 'do what it takes', but who will she report Steve to when he ignores her. It's time she let things go, the only person to blame for her problems is her, Anita reads PMBD on a hourly basis because she wants to, she can't stay away, no one forces her to do so, Steve can not make people like her, a hypnotist couldn't achieve that, Steve can't stop her from reading PMBD, only she can do that, and Steve can't make Tom blind enough to be attracted to her, but maybe her creations could help with that.

 Coconut,
(and whoever she wants me to be today)

*AW your inbox is full*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 July 19, 00:21:33
  Update on the Atwa vs everyone saga. She did not get her apology from Tug....


GO Tug! Go Tug! Go Tug!

Thanks coconut, whoever you are this week.  Tell all your personalities I said hello.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 July 19, 02:05:56
Even Jan needs less medication.

PRICELESS. :::applauds::::

Quote
We/I, the several coconuts, are jealous because she kissed Tom twice in secret.. so she says, if that were true and it was a secret, then how would we/I know? and why do we/I care what happens in her head? She's also accusing Tom of thinking more about his homelife and the house he is building than he does of her and her situation. That may be the one thing she is right about.

GASP! you mean... even TSR people have LIVES? Wow. Whodathunkit? (I'm glad, actually, that Thomas is showing signs of humanity.)

Quote
Anita reads PMBD on a hourly basis because she wants to, she can't stay away, no one forces her to do so


Anyone have a spare bottle of Obsession to send her?

Quote
Coconut,
(and whoever she wants me to be today)

I want you to be Clive Owen. And then I want you to come to my  house. :)

Quote
*AW your inbox is full*

Her inbox is always full. Silly AWs.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 July 19, 03:19:07
mwahahaah. Priceless indeed. Love your posts Coconuts :P

Atwa is boasting about two secret kisses? Oh for godsake...
If Tomass isn't careful, he is going to have a Glen Close on his hands. I can see it now...



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 July 19, 03:50:08
Atwa, instead of lurking so damn much, why don't you just join already? Think about it, you can raid your own creations from the booty!

And if you were to choose, let's say, ScabbyAssFace for your username (oooo - very piratey) we can affectionately call you Scabs!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Saraswati on 2008 July 19, 04:16:18
*cracks up* Snarky, if I wasn't a married old lady and you weren't gay, I'd ask you to marry me at this point.. god that was funny.. :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Tempest Limmerfer on 2008 July 19, 05:28:11
Quote
if I wasn't a married old lady and you weren't gay, I'd ask you to marry me at this point

 ::) Story of my life.....find one who makes me laugh my ass off and ssame story as you.
God, the other day I was commenting on this "darling kid" on t.v.......how cute he was and all....and my son looks at me and says, "He isn't a kid; he's 24". Thats when you know you are old.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 July 19, 11:21:44
Quote
Her profile has been changed back for some time, but she just will not let it drop, raking up the same old shit she was raking over a year ago, still causing trouble for people like Aikea and the NS crew who have long left TSR

well if she is still trying to cause trouble over at TSR about us, well it is pretty pathetic...and I really don't think any of us over at NS really give a rat's ass what she thinks or tries to get ThomAss to think or believe about us.

she is pretty pathetic...it's funny though how what goes around eventually comes around and bites you square in the ass!  Huh, Atwat?  Sucks losing control doesn't it?  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: tonnerbopper on 2008 July 19, 13:27:29
Hmmm....Dina, I would think that, if you and those others at NS left long ago, and now have NS as your website...which, thanks for the note, I went and checked you guys out, cool stuff.....then what business is it of Tomass' what you do? You have your own site, you are not on TSR, so who cares? He could hate your guts, Atwat could want you guys dead...so what? Does Tomass control the entire Sims Community? hehehe!!

That's like saying, I live in New York, but I hate those Californians so much I'm gonna sit here and hate away.....like that affects the Californians at all......not that I hate Californians, or live in New York, but that's the example......hehe

But, good for you all for leaving...bet you are happier, lol.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 July 19, 13:57:43
I agree Tonnerbopper!  That's why I personally don't give a rats ass what she does or what she says...and while I shouldn't speak for the rest of our crew, I would venture to guess that they don't care either.  ;)  And Thomass and his nazi henchmen (please don't take offense to this anyone...I only say it cause I know it pisses him off to be referred to that way) do try to control the whole Sims Community...and if they want you on TSR, well then his henchmen will hack the crap out of  your website until you agree to cross over to the dark side.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Surelyfunke on 2008 July 19, 21:39:08
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually feel somewhat sorry for Thomas at this point. TWO kisses??


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 July 20, 00:40:19
Two kisses from MY secret girlfriend. He's going DOWN. >:( >:( >:(


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 July 20, 01:26:10
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually feel somewhat sorry for Thomas at this point. TWO kisses??

*lmao*  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: BoogerNabbingCrust on 2008 July 20, 03:53:09
aww *hugs*..... LMAO! *kick'em hard lol*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: WedgewoodBlue on 2008 July 20, 08:19:30
I'm thinking they were the air kiss kind of kiss.............


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 July 20, 19:33:33
...and probably from across the room while he wasn't looking. -   :-*




Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Phelim on 2008 July 21, 00:40:26
Who says she wasn't just kissing a photograph.  I'm seeing "Better Off Dead" written all over this.  Think she has those nifty hanger covers like Lane does?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 July 21, 01:26:01
Maybe Thomass would prefer to be dead than to let her smooch on him...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 July 21, 01:33:13
If Tomass isn't careful, he is going to have a Glen Close on his hands. I can see it now...
It depends. Does Toma$$ have a small cute white rabbit? ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Kragey on 2008 July 21, 01:45:41
Atwa, instead of lurking so damn much, why don't you just join already? Think about it, you can raid your own creations from the booty!

Sometimes there's no greater ego boost than making other people THINK your shitty shit is popular.

I f'ing love Coconut and reportedly many people behind it.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: WedgewoodBlue on 2008 July 22, 18:11:35
Sometimes I do feel sorry for Atwat, I mean how pitiful is she, that has has to post on the net, this supposed "love" that she shares with Thomass. I'm not meaning to come across as Moral Maude, here, but he IS married.......
On the other hand, having this imaginary affair is just too damn funny. Like whoop-de-doo, she got a grand total of what was it, 2 kisses? Somehow only getting 2 kisses just doesn't translate into love for me.
Time and time again she demonstrates her complete and utter lack of having a brain. With all the posts I've read concerning her, she's manipulative, conniving, deceitful, judgmental, hypocritical, and just downright stupid. Combine that with her love of the "flood" tool, and seriously how much more fail can she manage?

Most people would have clued in at some point, but not Atwat.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 July 23, 00:48:04
She's also a hypocondriach as well isn't she? Aren't we rensponsible in sending her to hospital yet? Or is it that our remarks don't mean anything at all?
That's why she stalks and obsesses about this thread all the time isn't it? So she can work herself up to that big ol cross of hers?

I wonder how TomasS's wife would feel about a middle aged frumpy woman clinging onto her husband saying they have a deep love, and have shared two kisses!
I am sure she has removes all white rabbits from the house lol



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 July 23, 04:38:18
Makes me wish she'd fall through the looking glass and take certain idiots with her...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: liegenschonheit on 2008 July 24, 06:53:49
Maybe I give Thomass too much credit for being able to find and marry a woman with a decent sense of humor, but if she has any interest in reading her hubby's site then I'm sure she can't be oblivious to Atwat's obsession. I bet she is well aware of the whole thing and thinks it's hilarious that Atwat moons and fawns and clings all over her silly little husband. If it were me, I'd totally keep tabs on the whole imagined affair and all the 'secret' details Atwat breathlessly provides to anyone who will stand still long enough to listen, just to have a good long laugh.

I'm not saying that Thomass is a great catch, or that he has a wife that likes to laugh at poor, delusional, semi-elderly women on the internet, but I'm sure even he isn't retarded enough to leave whatever woman he shacked up with to share a slobber with Atwat.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: coconut on 2008 July 30, 20:13:19

http://forums.thesimsresource.com/showthread.php?t=358749

  Anita aka Atwa is still causing no end of trouble with her alter ego BeaSims. Her meshes of course, are still as poor and unstable as they always were, They not only look bad but they are still causing crashes. She also still seems to be exorcising some hold over Tom, because people who complain are being banned. It's unlikely this person was IP banned or had their account locked, rather it's apparent that Tom simply took his usual lazy route and changed the pass and the mail address for the complainants account. This is just one that has posted on the forums, there have been several occasions where complaints have been made against Atwa aka Beasims where the poster has disappeared. Indeed, Anita has the knives out for lechapeau. Anita vows to get this post removed, and blames tug and Kath  - and Dina (?? Don't ask me).  I took the liberty of making screen captures of the thread in the event she again forces Tom to discipline the Mods.

  Anita has responded in her blog that one of her monstrosities is crashing games because it is 'high poly' 
http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/BeaSims/blog/

QUOTE

The Valencia Bedframe is a high poly object as I also mention in the description. Still it´s a 6 tile object and I have seen bedframes with higher polycount than this one. Not to mention some objects you can find here that have over 4000 polygons on just a 1 tile object.

 In true Atwa style, when your work is bad, point out how crap everyone elses is on TSR, thus making yours look better.

 Evidently High Poly is OK even if it crashes your game, but only if used by Anita, It's not ok for anyone else -  if any of you remember that very public dressing down she gave MysticVelvet, (the one which she took delight in forwarding to everyone to further MysticVelvets embarrassment)

QUOTE

This is what I told her..She has not answered me..

Hi Jean..

After looking at your new set, I see that the polycounts are still way too high on some of the objects.. I have been in contact with the admin and they agree to this:

You have to add the polycounts in, so people will know that they are downloading high polycount objects.. Especially when you have a whole set with high polys. Many members haven´t got computers that can handle these objects. A figurine with 16 000 polys on a 1 tile in the game, where Maxis is recommending 800-1000 per tile isn´t a good thing for example. The bedcurtain with almost 10 000 polygons is way to many for this kind of curtain, and it should be around 3000 at the most or less..

Jean, to me the meshes also still looks too professional for a beginner, we strongly advice you to let people know that you have used and are using free meshes.. this is the best in the long run.. It takes time to learn how to mesh such complicated meshes and to make them look this good, and as most of them have high polycounts in this new set, it looks like they are free meshes..

Anita

  And to follow

QUOTE

She thinks she knows everything... saying I' m 'wrong'  *sigh*... you only need to look at that terrible castle she talks about to see she knows nothing about milkshape or meshing.. I have really tried with her.. but like 'you know who' she thinks she knows best.. I' ve replied because she begged me to tell her about polycounts..but it as if I' m talking to deaf ears...

Hi Anita, I'm sorry your wrong on this one, they are all my own meshes, except for the playpen. I'm not quite sure how you reckon out the polys, are they the vertices or the faces or an addup of both ? If you could let me know I would appreciate it. The castle took me the longest to make and has the highest count I think as I made a lot of round rooves and towers. I tried reducing it on the curtain, but then they started getting holes so I didn't dare reduce anymore.

Jean

Here is my reply to her, but I have to take it back to Thomas because I also know she is stealing meshes....


Hi Jean..

First the polycounts.. The total amount of the vertices and faces are the polycounts for the object and you can see this in Simpe.. this is something a mesher should kow.. have a look here in this picture and this is what you put in the "Num polygons" on the submission page.. and as your objects has a high polycount you have to let them know this as it can damage their games and make them crash..

Now to the other subject.. You said that you just started meshing.. and already you can mesh like a professional.. I have had 2 of my friends who are experienced meshers look at the meshes and they both say that this isn´t possible to learn this fast for a beginner and especially if you use Milkshape.. the possibilities in Milksape are very limited and I can vouch for that too as I also use MS.. I have been meshing since this spring seriously and it took me a long time to figure out how to do curves as I do it from scratch.. I have never even thought about using free meshes.. even as a base.. I use boxes, cylinders and planes to get what I want... a puppet like that for instance takes a lot of skills to do and the curtain, even my friends said was too difficult to do for them in that fashion and they have been doing this for a couple of years..

What I´m also trying to say is that it might be a good idea to mention that you have used free meshes as in the long run this is better for you, when people realizes that for example with you first sets that you used free meshes and didn´t mesh them yourself.. but it´s up to you.. I just recommend you to do it..

Anita

It' s up to her but if she won' t listen... She dosn' t know all I do..  

  Hypocritical (and one very jealous) TWAT.

  It's quite amusing how many times she name drops the word 'friends' in all her writings, nameless, faceless people that back up every word she says, but only to her. The fact that she has no friends, makes her claims all the more implausible.

  Another hypocritical statement she has been making of late is her pure hatred of recent SA/FA promotions who she says are just 'recolor artists' She argues that they should be able to mesh to a high standard and without those skills they are just 'normal' artists. She accuses Thomas of bad management and says that without her deciding the promotions, TSR will lose subscribers. She must have forgotten that when SHE, as Atwa, was promoted to both SA and FA she could not mesh either, in fact her mesh skills to date are somewhat dubious. She is also hyper-critical of what is appearing on the front page, which she has turned into her new obsession, with the artists featured there being subjected to her usual degrading ridicule. Her 'friends' are all saying her creations should be up there instead. I have yet to speak to a 'friend' who has said anything of the sort, in fact most say they don't even reply to her continuous rants.



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 July 30, 20:22:08
Very interesting as usual coconut thank you for the info!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 July 30, 20:32:07
Most hilarious and accurate quote from Beasims:

Quote
I have tested the Valencia bedframe again, I downloaded it from TSR and put it into my game and it was as usual, nothing ordinary happened, it just took longer to load as it does when new objects are added.


Sorry if I'm being dense, but I am presuming here that the bit that starts here:

Quote
QUOTE

This is what I told her..She has not answered me..

Hi Jean..


is the MysticVelvet thingie. Sorry - it makes it difficult because I don't know their actual names. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: coconut on 2008 July 30, 20:43:45
It seems that Anita's pressure has already had an effect, with a deletion of a post in that thread. Here is a screen capture of the deleted post.

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9786/bannedreplyaq5.jpg

 calalily: the quote "This is what I told her..She has not answered me..
Hi Jean.."
 This is a full quote from a message she sent to a few people, the first line being her comment to them before she forwards what she wrote to MysticVelvet.

 In case of further deletions of part or whole of that thread, here are the posts (in order) that I screen captured.


http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7453/bannednr0.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/1551/bannedreply1rf4.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6567/reply2cy1.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2150/reply3nd0.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5082/reply4cf2.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3146/threadclosednv1.jpg


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 July 30, 21:30:35
That's a really obvious post deletion in that thread. And for what reason? Sheesh. They suck.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 July 30, 21:35:01
First, I am happy to be free of that place.  It seems even more dysfunctional than before.   Second, what the heck are Thomas and Steve thinking by keeping an obviously bad situation going on and on?  The SA's cannot be happy.  The FA's cannot be happy.  Anita is not happy.  It is just so weird. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 July 31, 04:28:58
Thanks for clarifying coconut  :-*

I don't understand why you would quash discussion about high poly stuff - if it's high poly limited people seem to care. And few TSRers know what they're doing so they download like fools.  If it crashes your game, then I don't see why they wouldn't leave that up - lots of things crash games - doesn't mean that that is some secret that must be hidden at all costs.  :-\

First, I am happy to be free of that place.   

We are happy we can haz paleoanth to ourselves.  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 July 31, 05:00:35
I tried going to check out Beasims' blog and can't because it keeps making the browser on my PDA crash! Fitting, eh?

Honesty though, I'm still having trouble accepting what a complete nutcase Atwat is. It's like when I was reading up on the whole Jan drama. I believe it, but a huge part of my brain is insisting it's all a big joke. Defense mechanism I guess.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 July 31, 11:39:54
thanks Coconut  :) but I am not sure why she blames me...actually this is kind of funny because I randomly picked that fugly Valencia Bedset to comment on just to piss her off...I was going to keep commenting so she would lose her stupid kudos each time she had to remove it...then the last one I wrote "why did you remove my comment and answer my question" kind of comment, it was deleted by an Admin...I am assuming ThomAss.  I had no idea that people were being banned over that set...I avoid that forum like the plague. :-\


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: coconut on 2008 July 31, 23:03:56
 I'm just dropping in to update you as best I can, a lot of Atwa related news has broken recently. Most of which I can not make public just yet, a tip I can give you now is to watch TSR very close this weekend, for a departure. It's not Atwa, but she was responsable. Hecubus will fill you in on the details when it becomes public.

  Additionally a underhand plan involving Atwa, Thomas and Per has come to light, we have known for a while, but I am hoping to be able to share the full details in public in the next few days. We also may have a reason behind Toms clingyness to Anita.

  There was a rumored troll attack on Beasims and Atwas guest books today, unfortunatly no screenshots, Common belief is she did it herself to gain attention from Thomas.

  Sorry I cannot tell you more just now, there are very good reasons why I can't just yet, so bear with me.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 July 31, 23:31:46
well we know it's not Atwat leaving...she never left the first time... ::)

I am going to wait patiently for what this underhanded plot is of theirs and why ThomAss is so clingy of that twat.  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 July 31, 23:34:52
*passes around rum popcorn in anticipation* Anxiously awaiting Coconut! (http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w234/Purplepooki/Smilies/xhappy1.gif)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 July 31, 23:39:27
Will be holding my breath until you can fill us in. 


/Pale is already blue


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 01, 03:12:52
Can't wait for the revelation! :o This weekend Atwat is gonna strike :D Who's gonna leave? *dies of curiosity*
(http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9449/popcornmovietheatreiu0.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Feverish on 2008 August 01, 03:24:08
Oh that picture is awesome.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 August 01, 04:09:43
Muahahaha, simply hilarious!
The sheer fascist regime this site (TSR) is running on! I simply can't believe the levels of backstabbing this woman is capable of doing, with no ethics evident in any shape way or form! A true scumbag!
*muches on popcorn* MOAR COCONUT!!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 01, 04:21:02
lol I love the kitties picture  :D :D

As for watching/reading this whole atwat business go down.... who needs cable when you have atwat? All your favorite soap opera's rolled into one..... aliens and all


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: vindi on 2008 August 01, 05:05:31
I love the kitties! :D

If anyone is looking for some lulz, check out the comments on Beasucks's 'creations' by A TWAT. My favorite is the comment on her Osaka Bedroom set (which I can't see... not that I'm not grateful, but is anyone else having problems with T$R's images?) and that comment reads...

"you need to train your dog not to wipe its shitty ass on your furniture" Or such other gems that even *gasp* link to PMBD! They haven't been deleted, and there have been plenty of other commenters after A TWAT. Is everyone on TSR that blind of a sheeple?

(Apologies and rum if this has been mentioned, but I didn't see it.)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 01, 05:43:08
I can't wait. Should be a good weekend.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 August 01, 07:38:49
I'm going camping tomorrow, for four days. I'm gonna miss all the drama! *sobs*
At least I have something to look forward to when we come home.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 01, 08:58:20
I love the kitties! :D

If anyone is looking for some lulz, check out the comments on Beasucks's 'creations' by A TWAT.
Darn. When I tried it said that comments are disabled...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: falln_angel on 2008 August 01, 09:02:16
I love the kitties! :D

If anyone is looking for some lulz, check out the comments on Beasucks's 'creations' by A TWAT.
Darn. When I tried it said that comments are disabled...

Damn, it was in her guestbook, but I didn't even think to screencap it and now it appears to be gone. (Naturally, since Be/Atwat apparently secretly lives here.) Did anyone else manage to grab it?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: gayle_afcb on 2008 August 01, 09:40:20
Slips in and sits next to pooki to share some popcorn while waiting with baited breath...  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: cookiepirate on 2008 August 01, 10:09:55
goes shopping for extra rum, cookies and popcorn for the BIG EVENT


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jess Maree on 2008 August 01, 11:20:52
/me waits anxiously

(http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/crapola/dramadary.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Tabby on 2008 August 01, 13:15:21
  This is too exciting! Now my weekend is shot to hell because I will be glued to my computer,though. Thanks. LOL I cannot wait! ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 01, 13:18:02
I saw that comment pasted on a lot of Beasims sets
(http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8734/atwatyi7.jpg)

I didn't caption the rest like the dog wiping his ass and such ::)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 August 01, 13:30:55
Gah!  I have to go do family stuffs tomorrow.

The good news is its likely to happen earlier rather than later, so I might catch it before we head out.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: nihil on 2008 August 01, 13:34:34
Read the comments:  http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/BeaSims/downloads/sims2/sets/objects/725753/ (http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/BeaSims/downloads/sims2/sets/objects/725753/)


WTF?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: BlueButterfly on 2008 August 01, 13:50:16
I positively loathe TSR (as I know all of you do as well) and I am thoroughly enjoying all this TSR/Atwa (BeaSims whoever the hell she is now) drama!

I can't wait to see who leaves!

And I can't wait to see why Thomas is "clinging" to Atwa...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 01, 14:29:34
Holy crap... that's what I call dedication!  I'm applauding whoever the A TWAT person is.

I wish they would give her a 50 Hitler Mudkip post.  :D for A TWAT if they're reading here (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/So_i_herd_u_liek_mudkip)  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: spunkysim on 2008 August 01, 16:10:21
We're gonna need LOTS of rum to get through this weekend... a good supply to get through the wait for more details, and then a really hefty supply for the celebration that is probably coming.

I will place the order.  Rum, cookies, popcorn... got it.  Anything else?   ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: TheCucumberpie on 2008 August 01, 16:18:50
Read the comments:  http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/BeaSims/downloads/sims2/sets/objects/725753/ (http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/BeaSims/downloads/sims2/sets/objects/725753/)

Seems like they've deleted the comment. Did anyone caption it?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 August 01, 16:36:03
I will place the order.  Rum, cookies, popcorn... got it.  Anything else?   ;D

Martini's...I don't like Rum very much, and Chocolate please!  ;) :D

I'm picturing Jack Sparrow holding a Martini on the Black Pearl and giggling at the mental image...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: spunkysim on 2008 August 01, 16:59:47
Martini's...I don't like Rum very much, and Chocolate please!  ;) :D
I'm picturing Jack Sparrow holding a Martini on the Black Pearl and giggling at the mental image...

You got it... I am making my rum Malibu, its the only rum I can drink without it getting to my stomach.  Just don't tell the other pirates.  ;)

Hey, its still rum and being that its "coconut" I think its particularly appropriate, don't you think?   ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Saraswati on 2008 August 01, 17:51:54
oh my god, this is better than a soap-opera..  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 August 01, 18:10:17
I can't stay away!  :D  Does Friday technically belong to the "weekend"?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Theria on 2008 August 01, 19:16:50
I try to stay away from this thread, but it keeps bringing me back. Man, this is fun. I'm gonna go start popping more popcorn for the slow ones, like me.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 August 01, 21:22:13
me thinks the drama will unfold tomorrow morning....  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 August 01, 21:33:18
Is there something you're not telling us, Dina? :o


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Saraswati on 2008 August 01, 22:26:33
she is, and now I've been looped, I'm not telling you either.. oh, it's good stuff.. ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 August 01, 22:27:33
well it could be earlier..... lol  ;)

let's just wait and see what happens...I may know a little something something.... lol


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Alexia on 2008 August 01, 22:38:43
Now you've got me hitting the refresh button like crazy! I'll go and make some popcorn to share around guys as the drama unfolds... Damn it Dina there goes my diet again  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 August 01, 22:40:13
This screams for rum flavoured ice-cream, popcorn and large amounts of rum! Although knowing my luck I'll wake up and have missed all the drama :'( (prays she doesn't)

When you say morning, morning where? Europe or US?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Owl on 2008 August 01, 22:42:03
*munches popcorn*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 August 01, 22:44:25
not long now...get  your popcorn and your rum (and a martini for me) and get ready for it...it's coming...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: gayle_afcb on 2008 August 01, 22:45:01
Natural Sims have announced a new artist in the last half an hour who is now officially an ex FA  ;D

You can read it here (http://naturalsimsforum.com/index.php?topic=4371.0)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 August 01, 22:48:22
I cannot see it unless I register.  Can you just copy and paste or tell us, please?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 August 01, 22:50:38
 :o

Just read that welcome post and - holy mamma!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 01, 22:51:19
aww can someone screenie the post? I don't want to register for yet another forum....  :P



edited because I'm a dumb face speller


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Owl on 2008 August 01, 22:53:11
Yes, I would like it also.  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 August 01, 22:54:42
hold on a sec...I am making a screen print right now

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/dinad2610/Kittehs/SALLY-ANNOUNCEMENT.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 August 01, 22:57:37
Ah, just beat me Dina :D

Now where's the back story, gossip and dramallama to go with this? :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 August 01, 22:57:56
One of my favorite people in simsverse! I love simtomatic! Glad you are free. 

But I need to know why.  I want the dirt!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: pickles on 2008 August 01, 22:58:58
/me  offers to share the rum cake she just finished making


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: aikea_guinea on 2008 August 01, 22:59:45
This is seriously fantastic...   :D  I was wondering if that's who it would be.

Welcome to freedom.  It's a wonderful thing.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Owl on 2008 August 01, 23:00:59
*waits impatiently for drama and dirt*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 01, 23:01:34
OMG YAY!

I loved so much of simtomatic's stuff!

But we need the dirt as to why? Was it because of pure jealousy of atwat's and tomass's relationship and how they talk on a constant basis */sarcasm*  ::)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: gayle_afcb on 2008 August 01, 23:06:11
Well I hear the rest of us at NS are apparently  ::)  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Alexia on 2008 August 01, 23:08:59
So how many FA's has the Atwat managed to liberate so far? Anyone keeping count? Well done Atwat (or Beasims or whatever you're called these days...) Another creator joins the light side. Tomass deserves the likes of you on his crappy paysite.  ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 August 01, 23:10:32
Yup.  It looks like the real talent is slowly, but surely draining out of there.  There are a couple of other people who I am fond of that I would like to see liberated. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Alexia on 2008 August 01, 23:17:31
I'd like to see ehim trying to hustle subscriptions when he'll be left with the likes of Evi and BlackGarden as FA's....Can tomass say "Epic phail"?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 August 01, 23:18:50
we can only hope that more will see the light.  And as the great Businessman that Thomas seems to be...keeping her on is doing his business well...hahahaha...the dumbass...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Owl on 2008 August 01, 23:21:21
Alexia, he's been failing for a long time.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Alexia on 2008 August 01, 23:24:54
It's just that over the past few months he's been losing all of his talented FA's and keeping the flood filling hag  ??? Did he get his bussiness savy from the ACME school of economics? OR Does she hold something big on him? I Lurvvv this thread....Ruined diet be damned ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 August 01, 23:26:35
WOW, that's  big news!  Simtomatic is terrific, and I bet TSR loses subs over this.

Yay for you guys at Natural Sims.  And hurrah on your liberation from the dark side, Simtomatic. :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 August 01, 23:56:42
The news about Simtomatic exiting TSR is fantastic. It also just occurred to me that if every other TSR creator were to likewise leave, then Anitatwat would be getting what she's apparently been after for so long - Thomass' undivided attention.

She needs to get over it and invest in a vibrator.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zillah on 2008 August 02, 00:05:08
(snip) It also just occurred to me that if every other TSR creator were to likewise leave, then Anitatwat would be getting what she's apparently been after for so long - Thomass' undivided attention. (snip)

maybe that's her plan!

z


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: tonnerbopper on 2008 August 02, 00:05:27
Well, I've been reading some back threads, and have come to the understanding that apparenly, (and correct me if I am wrong) Both Atwat/Beasims and Thomass hate the people at NS...but exactly why I don't know...they have a great site, and seem to be on their own.....unless its that people getting kicked out of TSR go there, maybe? But, that would seem reasonable to me.  Anyone care to update me? Thanks.  


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zillah on 2008 August 02, 00:12:21
Mostly cause we took our toys and left - ie we got a big dose of Atwat and her own special view of the universe and had the audacity to stand up and complain when we were treated badly. And worse, yet, we wouldn't fold under and beg for forgiveness when they got snippy with us. A whole bunch of us saw the light and got the hell out of there. For juicy details, have Dina or Gayle or Redhead Rose tell of the Great TC Scandal, and it's follow up The TSR quiz Debaucle.  In a nutshell, we de-sheeped. (http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i244/dhaissa/smileys/sheep.gif)

z



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: liegenschonheit on 2008 August 02, 03:26:23
Sometimes I wonder if Atwat is really a pirate secret agent. She has managed to singlehandedly do far more damage to the TSR cause than the rest of us put together. It's mind boggling, really, how good she is at angering and alienating the people that TSR actually needs on their side if they wanted to stay in business.

I'm glad though, because it means that so many people with real talent are leaving TSR and realizing that there is a community out here just waiting to welcome them.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: pixelated on 2008 August 02, 03:32:03

Big congratulations on going free, Simtomatic (I love your stuff, by the way!). Welcome to the good side.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 02, 03:32:31
Lol...it's starting....check this out, folks:

http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/Riverwillows/guestbook/


and then go here and see my response (and others who LIKE ME, YOU REALLY REALLY LIKE ME...)   :D :D :D :D


http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/ElkieB/guestbook/

Edit....seems like they took it away..no biggie, here's the screenshot...lol.....

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii117/Riverwillows/GuestbookEntry2.jpg)





There's something happening here...
What it is, ain't exactly clear...
There is Atwat at a keyboard there..
Telling me, I got to beware...

It's time we, STOP, hey, what's that sound
Anita's wheels spinning round and round..
Hey, sheeple, better get down...
Save yourselves and get out of town.....


Sorry guys....not great, I know...but I couldn't help meself. Lol.....
Just tired of all the bullcrap and threats and hoopla and drama...I just wanna recolor, man.  This old hippie lady is not into drama.

Hey, can I have some rum...all I got is Dr Pepper.....mmmmmm......

My account was most likely gonna get deleted anyway...I have a feeling...so why not.....hehe.....Cest la vie.



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 August 02, 03:39:02
For juicy details, have Dina or Gayle or Redhead Rose tell of the Great TC Scandal, and it's follow up The TSR quiz Debaucle.  In a nutshell, we de-sheeped. (http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i244/dhaissa/smileys/sheep.gif)


Juicy juice. I know about the TC thing, but what is this quiz one? 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 02, 04:43:26
Yay, another creator that've seen the light! Oh happy day! :)
But, Simtomatic is still an FA @ TSR, i'm sure Thoma$$ is gonna keep up the illusion for months. :-X


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 02, 04:44:49
Okay, I've totally been trying to stay away from posting in this particular place (no dramallama, no thankyou), but I have been watching avidly with popcorn. And coffee. And rum... in my coffee  ;D
Wait, hold on, there was a point in there somewhere.
So River, let me get this straight, she called you a "pirate bitch" and it hasn't been deleted, yet you merely said something that could merely only be misconstrued as rude, yet it's deleted in a heartbeat? Really?
Anyhow, I liked your phrasing. Coach me?  ;D


Edited for hitting wrong button


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 02, 04:59:47
He won't be able to keep it a secret for long if people raise hell like when the last ones left... There have been so many deserting, I can't remember who the last ones to jump ship and head for shore were... I'm old and my memory has gone to hell...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zillah on 2008 August 02, 05:50:30
Juicy juice. I know about the TC thing, but what is this quiz one? 

start about here-ish: http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/index.php/topic,1657.480.html (http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/index.php/topic,1657.480.html)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Theria on 2008 August 02, 06:16:47
I admit. I did a little squeal and clap and happy dance (in my chair). Huge congratulations to Simtomatic! I raise my rum and coke to you!

But c'mon, there has to be more to this story. I want the dirt!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 02, 07:08:16
Congratulations to simtomatic.  ;D Bubbles and the kitties would be happy (Trailer Park Boys reference).  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 02, 08:23:49
Yay for Simtomatic. They deserve some rum and cookies  ;D

Boohoo, I missed all of the drama! It looked fun too. As for ElkieB, it's amusing how obvious it is that she/he/it is Atwat/Anita/Beasims/idkwtf.



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: liegenschonheit on 2008 August 02, 08:29:01
Ooh, you just know things are getting good when the sockpuppets come out to play!

/munches popcorn


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 August 02, 11:41:49
Wait, its 12.30 in the afternoon here (UK) and still no dirt - yes! :D

*sits with everyone else*

I've got plenty of rum, popcorn and chocolate - help yourselves!

River: What exactly did Atwat say? I checked your guestbook but there's nothing there :'(



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 August 02, 12:45:02
Okay, so I only missed the big announcement [ Dancing Rodent's, by the way! ]

*hauls out her rum soaked popcorn and shares it around too*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: BlueButterfly on 2008 August 02, 12:48:15
I'm ecstatic that Simtomatic has left as an FA at TSR!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 02, 13:32:32
*Sits* We'll just wait for Coconut for the soap drama  ;D *shares rum buttered popcorn*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 August 02, 13:51:49
Can't reach Naturalsims. Anyone got a link?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 August 02, 13:55:16
http://naturalsimsforum.com/index.php


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Surelyfunke on 2008 August 02, 14:07:26
Ooh, I am OVERJOYED that simtomatic left TSR! She is one of my favourite creators.

Waiting on coconut and other privileged secret bearers to start spilling the beans, plz.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 August 02, 14:21:28
*pops more popcorn and pours more rum shots*  Congrats to Simtomatic for getting away from the mess that is TSR!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 02, 14:48:45

River: What exactly did Atwat say? I checked your guestbook but there's nothing there :'(



Yeah, looks like they removed it too.   ::)


Here's the screenshot of that, too:


(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii117/Riverwillows/GuestbookEntry.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 August 02, 14:52:01
Oh, so very subtle :D Hey, rather be a pirate bitch then some looney let loose on her day pass :D

Karma hits hard, and her time is a coming *evil cackle*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: pixelated on 2008 August 02, 14:53:39
http://naturalsimsforum.com/index.php

Forgive me for the OT here, but I seem to be banned at Naturalsims for some reason. Never visited it before, so I have no idea why. Just wanted to check if it was just me, or if there's some kind of problem with the site... ?

<waits patiently for more Atwat-drama>


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 02, 14:59:17
Pixilated, I left you a pm.... ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 August 02, 15:00:13
Thats strange - I wouldn't think NS would ban people without a good reason, especially those who have never visited the site! What comes up when you try to access it?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: gayle_afcb on 2008 August 02, 15:16:55
Pixelated I am pmming you now  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 August 02, 15:33:38
Wow, that is funny.  I was able to look at ElkieB's (Atwat's) guestbook a few minutes ago and then I just tried again and I'm getting a "no such minisite owner" message!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 August 02, 15:39:53
Why in the name of everything that's holy do they tolerate her (Atwa, Beasims, Elkie, etc.) there??!!

She must have some pretty damning info on Thomas. :-X

Coconut, come back and explain!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 02, 15:41:15
Not to worry, Atwat will create a new account/personality soon ::)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: pixelated on 2008 August 02, 15:43:20
[OT-mode]

Problem solved, thanks for the fast replies you two. :)

[/OT-mode]


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 August 02, 16:00:08
Atwat must be taking lessons from Jan.  Watch out for a guvment type person in her life soon. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: gayle_afcb on 2008 August 02, 16:20:24
[OT-mode]

Problem solved, thanks for the fast replies you two. :)

[/OT-mode]

You're welcome and the ummm problem should now be solved lol  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 August 02, 17:44:20
:o

I'm gone for three hours and still nothing?!!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Ry on 2008 August 02, 18:51:17
*does happy hippie dance*
Simtomatic's Beach House build set is a staple in my game.
Go Simtomatic! ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zillah on 2008 August 02, 18:59:12
Wow, that is funny.  I was able to look at ElkieB's (Atwat's) guestbook a few minutes ago and then I just tried again and I'm getting a "no such minisite owner" message!

still there: http://www.thesimsresource.com/profiles/guestbook.php?mid=2250514 (http://www.thesimsresource.com/profiles/guestbook.php?mid=2250514)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 02, 19:34:40
Not to worry, Atwat will create a new account/personality soon ::)
Hell, she might as well get a sex change at this rate.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if she soon starts passing herself off as male for some reason.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 02, 19:38:10
There are still no Mudkipz in that post - but I'll live.  :D They might hate her bad and stuff, but don't they realise she's stuck in there and there's no way to winkle her out - Tom Ass is helping her create endless sockpuppet accounts - they can hate her all they like - she's not leaving.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zillah on 2008 August 02, 19:42:05

Hell, she might as well get a sex change at this rate.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if she soon starts passing herself off as male for some reason.

How would we notice the difference?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 02, 19:48:11

Hell, she might as well get a sex change at this rate.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if she soon starts passing herself off as male for some reason.

How would we notice the difference?
If we see a "male" user on TSR going around telling everyone to drop dead and be burninated at a stake, then we'll know it's her. It doesn't matter how many sockpuppets they make. As long as she keep harrassing everyone, she'll be discovered. She just can't help herself...

Edited because what I said made no sense.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zillah on 2008 August 02, 20:09:32

Hell, she might as well get a sex change at this rate.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if she soon starts passing herself off as male for some reason.

How would we notice the difference?
If we see a "male" user on TSR going around telling everyone to drop dead and be burninated at a stake, then we'll know it's her. It doesn't matter how many sockpuppets they make. As long as she keep harrassing everyone, she'll be discovered. She just can't help herself...

Edited because what I said made no sense.

sorry forgot to insert sarcasm alert - I meant how would we know the difference between Atwat as a male or a female - for all we know, she/he/it's a crossdresser - I mean c'mon, look at the photos - no wait don't, I hate it when people's eyes start bleeding.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 02, 20:15:23
Oh, well... You'll just have to use your imagination on figuring that one out *shudder*  :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: pixelated on 2008 August 02, 20:32:53
Guys, I thought we agreed that attacking someone else's looks and nothing but was in bad taste. Thousand posts with "lololol she's ugly" is neither useful in any way, funny, or especially flattering for those posting them.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zillah on 2008 August 02, 20:37:16
Fair point. I am properly chastised. Especially when she has so many other charming qualities we can attack her for.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 02, 20:38:30
Also, one's face does not determine one's brain capacity.  ;D  What was it, the Triceratops that are supposed to have had the walnut-brain?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 02, 20:49:42
Stegosaurs I believe. And lo and behold begins the discussion on what dinosaur Atwat resembles...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 02, 20:58:34
The T-rex had a peanut brain. All the T-rex surely had a sub at TSR, then! 8)

Seriously, no physical lulz at people, even paysites' assholes. It sucks.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 02, 21:35:07
So where does that leave Carla Niven?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: fway on 2008 August 02, 21:39:12
So where does that leave Carla Niven?

As far as I know, they're practically the same person. When Atwat is Cardrew, she's just showing her/his/it's smutty personality.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: coconut on 2008 August 02, 22:49:01
 Sorry for the delay, there where some interesting developments last night and today that turned this 'press release' upside down. First I will go with the original news I had for you, and follow with the latest developments.

  Atwa was supposed to be back in charge very soon, or so she thought. After Beasims was exposed, she set up an account with the name EffieM,  http://www.thesimsresource.com/profiles/2162670/  with the help of Tom and Per. This time they wanted to make sure the Mods had no access to her IP, as she convinced them the leak came from Kath and Tug. Thomas and Per set her up with a proxy program, which would enable her to make a second account without being detected by the Mods. The plan was for her to be swiftly fast tracked to FA status. Her eyes and ears, Detimgi, was to 'vouch' for her, as last time, and a new job position at the top was to be created for her, so in effect she was to be working alongside Spaik. This was the news that was to broken until the latest development.

  The reason for the delay in exposing her new account, was the fact we had heard a small rumor that Detimgi and Atwa were planning on calling DOT out over some Texture Challenge issues, sometime this weekend. Quite frankly we wanted to watch the fireworks and didn't want to side track her with any big announcements, However things did not go to plan. Atwa flew solo and took on Dot on her own, she went too far and as a result, both her Beasims and her EffieM accounts were locked. She then exploded, creating yet another account and went postal, telling a number of people what she really thought of them.

  She did not plan for any account to be locked, but she was unconcerned about her Beasims account, in fact she had been spamming her own guestbook with pastes of very old negative comments she had received in the past, her reasoning for the self spamming was to make her opponents believe the pirates had drove Beasims/Atwa away, and she could then start her new career as EffieM. The shocker for her came when the decision was made to also take out her 'secret' EffieM account.

  Tom now has the difficult task of smoothing things over for her yet again, and paving the way for her return, this will not be easy for him.

  Until today it was thought that the reasons for Toms loyalty to Anita, was down to the secret that she alone chose the winners of the kudo draw, there was no 'draw', so to speak. She also picked the SA winners for the amazon vouchers, something which was supposed to have been done by Thomas, a secret, that on the surface does not seem too much of a big deal, but could potentially be a time bomb when people found out they wasted their kudos on bogus lottery tickets, opening them to finding out that TSR is a very dirty place indeed. However, even at this early stage in the fallout of Anitas latest tantrum, its apparent that Tom is once more prepared to go out on a limb to protect her at the expense of anyone that gets in her way, so we now suspect there is much more to this than kudos fraud.



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: fway on 2008 August 02, 22:57:43
Carmel Popcorn anyone, with a glass of berry-cherry rum & coke? This sounds all too good!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 August 02, 22:59:33
Well worth the wait.  Thank you Coconut.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 August 02, 23:03:53
The reason for the delay in exposing her new account, was the fact we had heard a small rumor that Detimgi and Atwa were planning on calling DOT out over some Texture Challenge issues, sometime this weekend. Quite frankly we wanted to watch the fireworks and didn't want to side track her with any big announcements, However things did not go to plan. Atwa flew solo and took on Dot on her own, she went too far and as a result, both her Beasims and her EffieM accounts were locked. She then exploded, creating yet another account and went postal, telling a number of people what she really thought of them.

Holy crap - so, was that Atwat/Beasims/EffieM/Jan/Whoever who bitched at River in her guest book?! Why the fuck Toma$$ is keeping her when she's such a liability I do not know - she must hold some deep, dark shit about him ans T$R that he doesn't want known or he's just plain fucking stupid. I think they're as bad as each other - she's obviously way off her nutter with more than just a few screws loose and he seems to think its fun letting her loose on the public again and again and again.

She's going to end up crashing and burning because of him, and I think the same could be said about the site except she'll cause the crashing and burning.

(and am I sad that I squeeled when I saw Coconut being listed as online? :D)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 August 02, 23:07:20
No, you aren't because I did the same thing. :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Owl on 2008 August 02, 23:07:48
Danke, Coconut. I'll admit, I'm a drama lover.

*grabs some of fway's caramel popcorn*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 02, 23:14:55
Holy shit! I feel dizzy... *barfs* All these fake accounts, to become FA again. Crazy. :-X TSR is a nuthouse.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: fway on 2008 August 02, 23:16:51
Holy shit! I feel dizzy... *barfs* All these fake accounts, to become FA again. Crazy. :-X TSR is a nuthouse.

And deserves to stay that way, until all the people with the smallest amount of sanity leave!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 August 03, 00:09:10
Took a recent screenie in case someone might not catch this.

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/bethbrit2001/atwatnew.jpg)

Also, another member of TSR who I will keep anon has come back to me tonight saying she also received word in her GB from "EffieM" warning them about Tug.

I told her I wouldn;'t say anything but Atwa really is messed in the head to do something so idiotic.

ETA : (Both of the above profiles are unpublished, I don;t know why I'm saying but something told me to tell you[/freak])


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Markus on 2008 August 03, 00:22:06
This is starting to become more interesting than the Main Street Sims thread.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: aikea_guinea on 2008 August 03, 00:23:05
Oh look, here's another name to add to the list...

(http://pics.livejournal.com/aikea_guinea/pic/00ebdckt)

(I didn't even think about checking my own GB there until I read coconut's post.)

Have I mentioned lately how glad I am to have gotten out of that place?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 August 03, 00:26:53
Aikea that name was mentioned by the person who I was talking to earlier.
Apparently the mods were all over the place last night (9pm GMT) as so many negative posts were being posted


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 03, 00:42:09
Wow, aikea, a dirty file sharing pirate? If I didn't know any better, I'd say atwat was in a complimentary mood  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 August 03, 00:43:10
Restore her FA title, put the woman on mass ignore for PM and Forum. She can pm and post all she likes, no-one will ever read it and she will not know why. If she asks why, tell her you already fixed it and she should try try try again.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 03, 00:45:24
Have I mentioned lately how glad I am to have gotten out of that place?
Holy crap! Aikea, was it always like that?! How did you manage to stay so long in that rathole? *offers two crates of rum*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 03, 01:08:02
I'm glad I came home tonight... I'm just watching and laughing as the shrapnel rains down over at T$R...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: aikea_guinea on 2008 August 03, 01:11:29
Wow, aikea, a dirty file sharing pirate? If I didn't know any better, I'd say atwat was in a complimentary mood  :D

Maybe she was!  I'm rather disappointed I didn't get called a 'bitch' like River, to be perfectly honest.   ;D

Holy crap! Aikea, was it always like that?! How did you manage to stay so long in that rathole? *offers two crates of rum*

You know, it's hard to say.  Being on the outside is a pretty big shift in perspective, but it seems crazier than ever now.  Makes for some damn fine drama, it must be said.

Thanks for the rum!  While I prefer vodka, I'll never pass up free liquor.   ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 August 03, 01:19:49
*hands Aikea vodka as requested.  We aim to please!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 August 03, 01:56:16
atwa, this is just an observation from somebody who really doesn't give a shit, but you suck at picking usernames. I mean, you REALLY suck at picking usernames. Let's recap.

atwa - come on, you were just begging for someone to tack the final T on the end.

Beasims - Honestly, aside from Buntah,  nothing could be frumpier.

EffieM - I stand corrected.

Queen-Bee - And from one extreme to the other.  All I gotta say is you'd better have some BIG ASS hair to back you up if you're gonna stick with this one.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 August 03, 01:59:29

  She did not plan for any account to be locked, but she was unconcerned about her Beasims account, in fact she had been spamming her own guestbook with pastes of very old negative comments she had received in the past, her reasoning for the self spamming was to make her opponents believe the pirates had drove Beasims/Atwa away, and she could then start her new career as EffieM. The shocker for her came when the decision was made to also take out her 'secret' EffieM account.

  Tom now has the difficult task of smoothing things over for her yet again, and paving the way for her return, this will not be easy for him.

Who made the decision to lock down all the accounts? Do you know? Was it Thomas or is there more infighting between him and other powers?


  Until today it was thought that the reasons for Toms loyalty to Anita, was down to the secret that she alone chose the winners of the kudo draw, there was no 'draw', so to speak. She also picked the SA winners for the amazon vouchers, something which was supposed to have been done by Thomas, a secret, that on the surface does not seem too much of a big deal, but could potentially be a time bomb when people found out they wasted their kudos on bogus lottery tickets, opening them to finding out that TSR is a very dirty place indeed. However, even at this early stage in the fallout of Anitas latest tantrum, its apparent that Tom is once more prepared to go out on a limb to protect her at the expense of anyone that gets in her way, so we now suspect there is much more to this than kudos fraud.


Oh man.  Rigged kudos draws?  That is low.  I would love to see this get posted over there.  That cannot be widely known. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 03, 02:01:43
lmao, I find Atwat very amusing - she's probably 50 or so (judging from the horrifying pictures of herself) and yet she acts like she's a 12 year old.

Well, what more can you do that sit back and laugh? :D ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 03, 02:12:24
Throw explosive pineapples and duck when appropriate?? That would be my vote.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Saraswati on 2008 August 03, 02:19:53
Atwa became the subject of conversation on Yahoo today as well, with some friends who're watching from the sidelines.. One of them who isn't said "Who is Atwa?" so I answered simply "A creator at TSR who has a few interesting personality issues".. Another friend was trying to work out what made her act the way she does, and the friend who isn't on PMBD said

"Too many blows to the head?"..

I fell about laughing... Kinda spot on in Atwa's book..


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: aikea_guinea on 2008 August 03, 03:07:28
Who made the decision to lock down all the accounts? Do you know? Was it Thomas or is there more infighting between him and other powers?

There may be a special place in hell for me for this, but... I've sat on it for a very long time.  Not sure if it's at all related, but damned if I have any idea why they continue to keep her around if even Steve apparently doesn't like her.

Quote
02/29 [10:18AM] tugATwork: he demoted anita
02/29 [10:18AM] Steve: He did?
02/29 [10:18AM] tugATwork: its just a small gesture if her crap is still pay
02/29 [10:18AM] Steve: to what? Cock sucker?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 03, 03:09:43
Wow she is crazy!!! Like bat shit crazy!

Did I mention I think she's crazy!?

Seriously I wonder what made simtomatic leave, and what anita has over tom? (not that it matters why simtomatic left *I'm still happy they left*, I just like reading the drama!)  ;)

But rigged kudo's draws? Can someone explain the whole kudo's system please? I never knew there were draws.....



Edit: fix't my bad grammar


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 August 03, 03:10:57
Oh wow that is just too priceless. Thank you Aikea!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 August 03, 03:27:16

But rigged kudo's draws? Can someone explain the whole kudo's system please? I never knew there were draws.....



Edit: fix't my bad grammar

Kudos are like points you get for submitting content, having so many people with subscriptions download your stuff, signing guestbooks, voting in polls, getting the newsletter and other forms of participation.  You can turn kudos in for free download days (being able to download FA content).getting a member spotlight, getting a minisite, a custom banner or for buying raffle tickets for prizes.  The prizes usually included a copy of an EP or SP, a coffee mug, etc. It looks like that the raffle draws were not randomly pulled but selected by anita.  Which is crap.  I wish this would come out. 

Aikea-that is really interesting.  REALLY interesting.  That sounds like there is some infighting going on over there about anita.  Is thomas the only one in her corner?  Except for Det, I guess.  I always liked Det.  I hope she doesn't get burned. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 03, 03:34:54
Thanks tomato :)

I knew what the kudos were but I never knew there were raffles!?!? I wonder what's going to happen in saga 865789658 of the atwat tales!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 August 03, 03:42:03
I'm actually kind of feeling sorry for the poor, deranged, woman.  She obviously needs help, real help, from a bunch of professionals, with those nifty super-long sleeved white coats.

That said, I find it interesting to watch what sort of damage she'll end up causing for TSR and that greedy jerk who runs it.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: keirra on 2008 August 03, 03:54:45
I have a completely out of nowhere question, SoggyFox. Is there such a thing as spiced rum soaked popcorn? It sounds like it would really suck. Wouldn't the popcorn be all rubbery after being soaked in rum?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 03, 03:57:49
What if you make a caramel with spiced rum and sugar? Then heat your popped popcorn in it while stirring... Tada Spiced rum popcorn! :D

Edit: Forgot 2 words ^^


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 August 03, 04:05:07
 ;D

What is the power Anita holds over Thoma$$? What is it? It's the one thing hooking me into this thread, because the calamity it will ensue once it comes out...oh so awesome!

I don't know if Atwat is destroying TSR, considering she is being pestilent enough to draw out talented FA's and the like. But isn't there enough sheepie gnawing at the queue to become FA's? Sure they suck, but they are still pay. I thought people will not pay for shit content, but I've seen moleskin underwear with holes on them with a fluro pink leopard print tutu stuck on it*, with 1000 downloads and that can't be right... but some people just can't account for taste. TSR just needs to be nuked via education, that paysites are INFERIOR, in every way. Hence this forum.

I wouldn't want to give that cow any sort of credit. She's a cretin with super sekrit ninja skills (that's the only logical conclusion I could come up with on how she has dirt on Thomass) HOWEVER...she stirs the pot. And makes people stand up, it's like she is the poster girl for all that is rotten, vile and unethical about an ILLEGAL site anyhoo.
They are the real thieving pirates, everyone should know that by now.

*takes a swig of Rum

*I may or may not have really seen this. Tis a metaphor :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: The Shady Waffle on 2008 August 03, 04:15:03
Wow. Just Wow. This should be printed into a novel. Seriously. Someone make a sim story about this!

I'm not too keen on most dramas, but this makes a great read. So many questions. So much wonder.  (*_*)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Yaardarm Monkey II on 2008 August 03, 04:20:37
Ok, so Thoma$$ runs a business...

and business people run it for the money

and yet Thoma$$ allows Atwat to turn away the people that make 'things', that make him money

this makes zero business sense

unless......

if one looks at "real cost"


That is to say, Atwat has something on Thoma$$ that would make him lose MORE if he did anything to her.

 ;)     ya kinda see where I'm going on this?  like maybe 'incriminating' stuff Thoma$$ doesnt want the Mrs finding out?    ;)

hey, a RL visit....some hard liquor...some flattery......hey hey hey   :-*



of course that is simple conjecture...why a sane businessman would let a psychopath ruin his business makes no logical sense



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 03, 04:22:41
Wow. I'm most surprised at De. I liked De. She really had talent as a mesher. She even named a mesh after me, after I had requested it. I stopped using them only because they became pay, not cause of her. How can she blindly follow/fall into Anita's web of lies? She is much more intelligent than that.....unless she has become power hungry? I can't believe that.

De, my friend, why??   :'(


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Yaardarm Monkey II on 2008 August 03, 04:26:14
How can she blindly follow/fall into Anita's web of lies? She is much more intelligent than that.....unless she has become power hungry?


"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Lord Acton


"Unlimited power is apt to corrupt the minds of those who possess it"
William Pitt the Younger  


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 03, 04:31:25
River, which De are you talkig about? detimgi? Debitcard?

Stoopid suggestion: What if Atwat is in fact.... Thoma$$' mom? Their ages suit that theory and it'ld explain everything ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Yaardarm Monkey II on 2008 August 03, 04:33:30
What if Atwat is in fact.... Thoma$$' mom?

Their ages suit that theory and it'ld explain everything


 :o  aye carumba!!   that really WOULD explain it all    :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 August 03, 04:33:52
detimgi often goes by De.  I am assuming that is who River is talking about.

Dr. House, that is just icky to even think considering how she feels about him.  Stay away from the pills and quit giving them to yaardarm!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 August 03, 04:53:05
Atwat as Thoma$$ mother? Muahahaha Dr House you slay me! Har Har Har.

*takes some silly Dr House pills with her rum

teheheh tomato :P it is icky but so amusing..so....Norman Bates lol


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 03, 05:47:44
detimgi often goes by De.  I am assuming that is who River is talking about.


Yes. That's who I meant.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 03, 06:17:22
There may be a special place in hell for me for this, but... I've sat on it for a very long time.  Not sure if it's at all related, but damned if I have any idea why they continue to keep her around if even Steve apparently doesn't like her.

Quote
02/29 [10:18AM] tugATwork: he demoted anita
02/29 [10:18AM] Steve: He did?
02/29 [10:18AM] tugATwork: its just a small gesture if her crap is still pay
02/29 [10:18AM] Steve: to what? Cock sucker?

That is priceless :D As for special places in hell - they knew others were reading - not such a big sin.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 August 03, 08:15:02
Rum soaked popcorn, not real to my knowledge, and the yummy suggestion would be really bad for me anyway [ stupid diabetes ]

And I'd thought maybe she was his mother-in-law with a strange unnatural passion for her son-in-law....


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Emma on 2008 August 03, 09:15:18
Queen Bee left a message in a new SA's guestbook

http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/cherrynd/guestbook/

(http://i35.tinypic.com/iyd5pj.png)

Nice huh?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 03, 09:27:22
It was already gone when I got there.  :'(


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Emma on 2008 August 03, 09:28:55
Cala, it is still there-the 14th entry down.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 03, 09:32:13
Cala, it is still there-the 14th entry down.

DEATH TO GOOPY (for Emma's sake)  :-* . I was expecting recent nastiness.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Emma on 2008 August 03, 09:35:25
Well, it is from 2 days ago...not that long really ;D

Thanks for the deathwish on Goopster. Long Live Calalily!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 03, 09:51:46
'Tis quite incredible to watch really. Still hard to grasp how someone can be so idiotically stupid. The longer they try to keep this up, the more likely TSR will crash and burn though.

atwa, this is just an observation from somebody who really doesn't give a shit, but you suck at picking usernames. I mean, you REALLY suck at picking usernames. Let's recap.

atwa - come on, you were just begging for someone to tack the final T on the end.

Beasims - Honestly, aside from Buntah,  nothing could be frumpier.

EffieM - I stand corrected.

Queen-Bee - And from one extreme to the other.  All I gotta say is you'd better have some BIG ASS hair to back you up if you're gonna stick with this one.
More like...
- Atwat
- Beashit
- IffieM
- Queen-Bitch

Also, Buntah always sounded quite butch to me. Especially if you say each syllable in a deep bellowy drawn out voice.

So where does that leave Carla Niven?
Indeed...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 August 03, 13:36:00
Snarky, as usual, you are hysterically funny! ;D

Aikea, thanks for that quote.  And you did nothing wrong--in fact, I think you've shown remarkable restraint.

I am so tempted to post the info Coconut gave us about the kudos.  Someone in the forum was just asking yesterday about who won the last kudos draw, and when the next one will be.  It's hard to watch the sheep being snookered. :-\

What a place--a PG-13 site full of smut with fraudulent business practices and a total psychopath bending the ear (substitute your favorite orifice, if you'd like ;D) of the owner.   ::)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 03, 13:45:02
The real reason sheeplings are after kudos draws is that you can win months sub to T$R. It's not just to win a mug, really. Go look at the kudos prize page: http://www.thesimsresource.com/kudosshop/
"A 2 Month TSR Subscription"
So it suX deeply. Sheeples are being totally f*** in the arse.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 August 03, 13:48:30
Atwat as Thoma$$ mother? Muahahaha Dr House you slay me! Har Har Har.

*takes some silly Dr House pills with her rum

teheheh tomato :P it is icky but so amusing..so....Norman Bates lol

LOL! Oh god that brings up some scary images :o But it makes so much sense, in a weird and twisted sort of way :D

Yaardarm: Oh she has to have some soul destorying info on Toma$$ that could fuck up his world in a second if it ever came out. The day that info comes out, is the day T$R dies in a great ball of fire...that is unless Atwat doesn't destory it from the inside out first :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 August 03, 14:10:59
she really must have some damning evidence against him...for sure!  But if she does, well then shame on ThomAss for being such a stupid fuck!!  I mean really, if you had any business sense, you would never have brought her crazy ass into the fold!   ??? He is a major fuck up as a businessman and he for sure lacks the social skills to deal with his customers...he seriously sucks in the customer service department.  I almost feel bad for Steve for entering into a contract with Thomas and his henchmen.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 August 03, 14:30:02
I know that it is probably relationship related to what she has hanging over his head but what if it is business related, something that he could actually get in trouble for and go to jail over?  Of course it could be both also.  Its a thought, but then again maybe I watch Law and Order too much. :D

Eta: If I were in that kind of situation (thank God I am not and never will be ewww) I would take my lumps from my significant other and rebuild my life with or without them to get the monkey off my back, but that is just me.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 03, 15:01:02
Well this "damning evidence" is obviously why she's still around. They get rid of her, they face the wrath of Atwat.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 August 03, 15:08:53
got to be something more than relationship related.  People have affairs all the time...I can't imagine that alone would prevent him from cutting all ties with her and just deal with the consequences of those actions with his wife...why would you destroy your business because of an affair?  ??? Makes no sense to me...but if that IS the reason...well then I go back to my last post...ThomA$$ is a STUPID Fuck!  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Silver Arrows on 2008 August 03, 16:16:42
Quote
The real reason sheeplings are after kudos draws is that you can win months sub to T$R. It's not just to win a mug, really. Go look at the kudos prize page: http://www.thesimsresource.com/kudosshop/
"A 2 Month TSR Subscription"
So it suX deeply. Sheeples are being totally f*** in the arse.
Someone did a bit of snooping in that, the kudos lottery, and noticed that the prizes were often bagged by SAs or members with no profile info (dud accounts maybe?). Strangely enough the page got deleted.

Anita's recent rantings do not look like the behaviour of a healthy woman. She really needs to get help, hasn't she any family to look out for her?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 03, 16:23:38
I believe they all raided the booty. She called them pirate shitheads, and they disowned her.

Well that's what I like to think...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Silver Arrows on 2008 August 03, 16:29:26
Quote
She called them pirate shitheads, and they disowned her.
That's really mean.

(But I laughed out loud so maybe I'm mean too)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 August 03, 16:33:03
coconut dear... can you clear your mailbox?  I haz to talk to you


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 August 03, 16:52:50
Anita's recent rantings do not look like the behavior of a healthy woman.

To me, she seems like a spoiled and self-centered adult who's prone to explosive tantrums when she isn't getting her way.

Quote
She really needs to get help, hasn't she any family to look out for her?

Don't know. But she has Thomass and his unconditional support. What more could a manipulative twat need?



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 August 03, 17:07:28
Mmm...drama :D

I see Simtomatic is still listed as FA and has pay creations. Am presuming that Thomas and co have decided to lock her account and pretend she is still there*, as this is what they normally do. If that is the case then Simtomatic should post elsewhere in plain site (so NaturalSims) that she no longer wishes to be FA and wants her items to be free - it will get posted at TSR and Thomas will have to stop pretending. This is what was done with Aikea and Gelydh.

*Although, the GB entry by Cyclonsue shows otherwise...who has also been commenting on other GBs and issues posted in this thread. I wonder if this is a hint that she will leave TSR soon..


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: coconut on 2008 August 03, 19:29:03
I should have mentioned it was Steve who locked all Anitas accounts, They are still locked despite Toms pleas.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 August 03, 19:32:20
I should have mentioned it was Steve who locked all Anitas accounts, They are still locked despite Toms pleas.

Go Steve (the lesser of two evils)!

I said in KOL clan chat last night that I'm surprised Thoma$$ hasn't tried to burn down tsr instead of continuing to deal with Atwat.  I personally would just be so fed up by now.  I don't think the money is worth all the turmoil she's making him and everyone else go through.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 August 03, 19:33:10
Go on Steve! Seriously, he should kick the both of them to the kirb! I suspect it might have more to do with business then personal life in regards to Atwat's hold on Toma$$ - if she lets rip I think Steve could blow his top off!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 August 03, 20:49:32
I should have mentioned it was Steve who locked all Anitas accounts, They are still locked despite Toms pleas.

Thanks for this.  This is a really important bit of information and combined with what Aikea posted, gives a fairly clear picture of what is going on behind the scenes.  This is what I see anyway:

  • Anita has been running things as she sees fit, up to and including choosing SA's, helping choose FA's, and the now exposed raffle draws
  • Because of her power grabs, she has made enemies with many of the FA's, SA's and with the mods-both on the site and on the forums
  • Many extremely talented SA's and FA's have left directly due to the way anita has treated them whenever she feels the least threatened-even if that threat is in her own mind. This has resulted in at least two sites that are in direct competition to TSR and they are free.
  • In response to her bad press, she was forced to resign as FA, and eventually step down as SA AM
  • Publically, she let the Atwa persona drop and became Beasims, with the promise of regaining her old status
  • Somewhere in here, Tug finally banned her (as Atwa) from the forums and was forced by thomas to reinstate her
  • Beasims was exposed and she became yet another screen name with the same promise as above, which was also exposed
  • She created a possible one or two more personas that went on a rampage around the forum in people's guestbooks
  • She has some kind of hold on thomas, either personal or professional, that keeps him from canning her and allows her to continue to try to become the second in command at TSR
  • Steve finally took steps to lock down all her personas and will not budge

So, this basically tells us that anita has got the entire site against her with the exception of Thomas and possibly one or two FA's that she has not managed to alienate.  Yet.  This also tells us that thomas's partners are beginning to become fed up with her increasingly unhinged behavior, as I am sure Steve is not alone in his disgust.  The mods and steve are now at odds with thomas and that could, indeed, spell serious trouble at TSR.  I would like to see what Per thinks of this whole thing.  One fairly insignificant creator has managed almost single-handedly to drive away some of the best talent TSR has, drive a wedge into a partnership that has existed for years, possibly expose them to raffle fraud and cause MORE, not less pirates to migrate to PMBD.  All in all, anita has been the best thing to ever happen to PMBD. 

I am impressed.  I say we make anita an honorary pirate.  She has done much for the cause.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 August 03, 21:09:04
I should have mentioned it was Steve who locked all Anitas accounts, They are still locked despite Toms pleas.

Thanks for this.  This is a really important bit of information and combined with what Aikea posted, gives a fairly clear picture of what is going on behind the scenes.  This is what I see anyway:

  • Anita has been running things as she sees fit, up to and including choosing SA's, helping choose FA's, and the now exposed raffle draws
  • Because of her power grabs, she has made enemies with many of the FA's, SA's and with the mods-both on the site and on the forums
  • Many extremely talented SA's and FA's have left directly due to the way anita has treated them whenever she feels the least threatened-even if that threat is in her own mind. This has resulted in at least two sites that are in direct competition to TSR and they are free.
  • In response to her bad press, she was forced to resign as FA, and eventually step down as SA AM
  • Publically, she let the Atwa persona drop and became Beasims, with the promise of regaining her old status
  • Somewhere in here, Tug finally banned her (as Atwa) from the forums and was forced by thomas to reinstate her
  • Beasims was exposed and she became yet another screen name with the same promise as above, which was also exposed
  • She created a possible one or two more personas that went on a rampage around the forum in people's guestbooks
  • She has some kind of hold on thomas, either personal or professional, that keeps him from canning her and allows her to continue to try to become the second in command at TSR
  • Steve finally took steps to lock down all her personas and will not budge

So, this basically tells us that anita has got the entire site against her with the exception of Thomas and possibly one or two FA's that she has not managed to alienate.  Yet.  This also tells us that thomas's partners are beginning to become fed up with her increasingly unhinged behavior, as I am sure Steve is not alone in his disgust.  The mods and steve are now at odds with thomas and that could, indeed, spell serious trouble at TSR.  I would like to see what Per thinks of this whole thing.  One fairly insignificant creator has managed almost single-handedly to drive away some of the best talent TSR has, drive a wedge into a partnership that has existed for years, possibly expose them to raffle fraud and cause MORE, not less pirates to migrate to PMBD.  All in all, anita has been the best thing to ever happen to PMBD. 

I am impressed.  I say we make anita an honorary pirate.  She has done much for the cause.


A great summary, Tomato. But an honorary pirate? Um.... how about we just tie her to the masthead and let the enemy use her for target practice? (Oh oh! We can send her quail hunting with Dick Cheney!) But I digress.

Regarding Simtomatic: I was under the impression that she put in her resignation on Friday; was there nothing on her guestbook to signal her goodbyes? (BTW: We'll be keeping Simtomatic's stuff available in the booty until she's got it all released at Natural Sims. If Thomas 'frees' her, we'll move her stuff to retired artists until Natural's got her covered.)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: gayle_afcb on 2008 August 03, 21:18:45
We're working on it Hec  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 August 03, 21:22:24


A great summary, Tomato. But an honorary pirate? Um.... how about we just tie her to the masthead and let the enemy use her for target practice? (Oh oh! We can send her quail hunting with Dick Cheney!) But I digress.


Tie her to the masthead sounds good.  You know, the thing is, many people who were either neutral about the paysite debate or were pro-tsr (including many of the SA's that now come here and I was one of those neutrals) are now more active directly because of anita's actions.  I find that ironically funny or funnily ironic.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 03, 22:20:27
Ran out of popcorn, and was searching for more rum, when I came across this cute little site,

http://www.angelfire.com/biz/WLAW/anagram.html

Anagram Maker. Well, I couldn't help myself. I typed in "The Sims Resource". Guess what it shot back to me?

"Cheesiest Rumors".......I hit the floor laughing..... :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: aikea_guinea on 2008 August 03, 22:24:12
Tomato mentioning Per reminded me of an email I got from Thomas back when Anita was originally 'fired.'

Quote
I know you have some concerns about Anita's post in the Sa forum. For those on the inside (read us) it's easy to see this is her attempt to avoid loosing face alltogether and to cover her shame from being demoted. Considering what she's been going through this past week (not to mention me and Per) I ask that we all just let it be. Let is pass and let her have faith in a future promotion that may or may not come. I have no immediate plans to promote her back to FA in any near future - if ever. But at least it gave her something to hold on to.
(Bolding is mine.)

I wondered at the time, and still do now, what exactly it was they were 'going through' during the time when I was bringing forth complaints about Anita's behavior.  Based on other things I've heard, it makes me wonder even more about what Anita has over these guys.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 August 03, 23:16:22
I'm so excited! I've been away for the weekend in Indiana and haven't seen this thread for 10 whole pages. I'm catching up...hope the drama was/is good!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 04, 00:00:14
Ow don't worry Zazazu, you haven't missed much :D Popcorn made her report (more Atwat drama), simtomatic left TSR for Natural Sims but is still an FA... ::) The usual stuff.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 August 04, 00:13:45
Ow don't worry Zazazu, you haven't missed much :D Popcorn made her report (more Atwat drama), simtomatic left TSR for Natural Sims but is still an FA... ::) The usual stuff.

Popcorn made her report?  I think you mean Coconut.  ;)  Freudian slip?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 04, 01:04:19
HOLY SHIT! ROFL! Yeah, i'm slightly hungry lol  Or is it the previous pages conversation about how to make rum flavored popcorn? :D
You know, i noticed it while reading my post again, right before reading you... I'll leave it as it is, tis a funny slip. (i'ld prefer a time slip but whatever :P Rocky Horror FTW!)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Topaz on 2008 August 04, 01:45:15
:D you guys make me giggle. for reals. haha popcorn *chews on rum flavoured popcorns*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 August 04, 01:48:00
Does this mean Coconut is the new popcorn, the way Jelenedra is the new gay? :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pooki on 2008 August 04, 02:13:40
I like it!  That was a really good slip Dr. House! :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Topaz on 2008 August 04, 02:30:08
*chews on coconut...* tastes like popcorn. COCONUT IS THE NEW POPCORN!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 04, 02:53:59
Awesome. *gets a bowl of coconut and eats* So buttery with a hint of rum and paysite tears  ;D



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 04, 03:59:42
LOL ;D
(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3071/nyanyacw7.jpg)
*munches coconut flavored rum caramelized popcorn* :D

My day was so crappy that it's good to have a big laugh!
Tomato, Thou arst jealous of ma' pillz, nei? Nope, you won't have them. ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 August 04, 04:15:50
I told you she was on too many pills. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 August 04, 05:36:11
Simtomatic's no longer an FA :D
Sooo glad :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 August 04, 06:59:14
No, but she is in retired artists.  Does that mean her stuff is still pay?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 04, 07:12:21
No, but she is in retired artists.  Does that mean her stuff is still pay?

Yep:
1478 Total Sims 2 Files
846 Free Sims 2 Files


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 04, 08:04:26
I would think she'd have to formally request her account be completely deleted...along with all her stuff...in order to free it up. TSR will try to milk it for as much as they can get. Only way to stop that, is complete delete.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 August 04, 08:34:52
If she posts somewhere publically saying that she wants her files to be free then TSR can not keep them pay. Keep it private and Thomas will ignore it but make it public knowledge and he will have to release them.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 04, 08:42:47
Interesting development......I just saw a new member signed up today.......guess what the name is?

@TW@T 


Seriously.



http://forums.thesimsresource.com/member.php?u=2253786


Anyone care to have an opinion on this one???      ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: DaBuschckah on 2008 August 04, 08:49:36
Rabid fan? Alter ego? Sworn enemy? In this game, I have no idea.

I GOTTED BANNED 8 MINUTES AGO!!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Feverish on 2008 August 04, 08:51:58
Check out the guestbook:
http://www.thesimsresource.com/profiles/guestbook.php?mid=2253786


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: DaBuschckah on 2008 August 04, 09:00:17
WOW. So an enemy...either that or Atwat's up to her shenanigans again ::)

In other news...
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z199/DaBuschckah/BAN.jpg)

last time I heard, never is kinda sorta...long.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 04, 09:02:54
Wow. That must have happened in the last 40 seconds. I was just looking at it, then went to look at it again and it was gone.

I wish I took a screencap...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dusdeedawn on 2008 August 04, 09:07:23
It said something along the lines of "Yay, atwat is gone" or something like that. Incidentally, I forgot how to take a screen shot. Anyone care to refresh my memory?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: DaBuschckah on 2008 August 04, 09:13:52
It was basically that. I'm kicking myself for not taking a pic...but I did get a pic of what got me banned from TSR!
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z199/DaBuschckah/Untitled-1-1.jpg
I got a little...worked up.



EDITED cuz 'be' is not 'me'


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 04, 09:18:38
Wow. You got bawls, sistah!!!     ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 04, 09:31:05
Awesome work.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 04, 09:34:16
It said something along the lines of "Yay, atwat is gone" or something like that. Incidentally, I forgot how to take a screen shot. Anyone care to refresh my memory?

You simply hit "prt scrn" (print screen) button on your keyboard, then open up your photo program, get a new blank, and "paste", trim as you want...and save. Hope that helps.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: DaBuschckah on 2008 August 04, 09:40:50
Wait, you only have to hit the Print Screen button? I've always done Ctrl + PrtScrn. Wow. I have been using up valuable energy. :o


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2008 August 04, 09:46:16
Quote from: DaBuschckah
I'm kicking myself for not taking a pic...but I did get a pic of what got me banned from TSR!
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z199/DaBuschckah/Untitled-1-1.jpg

That was quite an exit. I'd say you deserved kudos for it but, well, you know... :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: DaBuschckah on 2008 August 04, 09:51:33
I did THIS (http://www.thesimsresource.com/screenshots/view.php?id=119879) just before they deleted my account. SHEEPLE EXPOSURE!!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 04, 10:03:02
Well....Liz, I gotta admire chutzpah....in all forms....and since you gave me your permission to post this....I gotta say, you go girl...ALL THE WAY!!

People, while she was still on TSR as an active account...just banned from the forum, she went and just changed her avvie and personal message....and look what it is!! Didn't stay up for long, she is now perm. banned altogether from TSR:

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii117/Riverwillows/Project1.jpg)


Closeup of the actual "avvie pic" :

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii117/Riverwillows/Untitled-1-1.jpg)


***bows in Liz's direction*****




Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: gayle_afcb on 2008 August 04, 10:35:19
@tw@t left me a guestbook entry:

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm198/Natural_Sims/Gayle/atwatlol.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 04, 10:38:05
Feeling left out.....nothing in MY GB....yet.......hehe.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: DaBuschckah on 2008 August 04, 10:42:41
Aww, my awesome screenshot is gone from the site...
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z199/DaBuschckah/liz1.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 August 04, 10:53:48
@TW@T is no more :D Just went to check their profile and it says 'Invalid User' :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: gayle_afcb on 2008 August 04, 11:12:06
lol they are quick today  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 August 04, 11:37:35
bah, they are quick!  I didn't get a chance to screenie my message from her and the message I left in her Guestbook!

Liz... way to go girl!!  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Surelyfunke on 2008 August 04, 13:27:56
Fantastic update from coconut. Do we know why simtomatic left TSR? (Aside from the obvious THEY BLOW)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Hecubus on 2008 August 04, 14:41:53
We do. Simtomatic was close to quitting a while back when Anita was pulling all her shit as "Atwa". Simtomatic didn't leave, however, because "Atwa" was fired. She didn't know, of course, that we had all been lied to, and Anita had created Beasims, which was to be fastracked to FA, with Anita still being paid for some job or another. When all this came to light, Simtomatic said "oh, no, not again" and put in her resignation. Apparently she made it crystal clear that Anita is the SOLE REASON she has left. (The EffieB stuff came out after Simtomatic resigned...but how interesting, eh?)


Edited to clarify.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 August 04, 17:10:43
I have it on good authority that something interesting will be posted at SimSecret (http://community.livejournal.com/simsecret/) this Friday. Might want to tell your friends in other communities.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Tabby on 2008 August 04, 17:13:26
  How very exciting! DaBuschckah , you are my new hero. That was amazing!

 ::bows::


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 04, 17:21:23
Zazazu, what IS that site? It confused me. Is it a download site, a forum? What kind?   :o


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Steerpike on 2008 August 04, 17:26:51
Zazazu, what IS that site? It confused me. Is it a download site, a forum? What kind?   :o

It's a livejournal community. Sort of like a blog, but with multiple people posting.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Surelyfunke on 2008 August 04, 17:28:06
We do. Simtomatic was close to quitting a while back when Anita was pulling all her shit as "Atwa". Simtomatic didn't leave, however, because "Atwa" was fired. She didn't know, of course, that we had all been lied to, and Anita had created Beasims, which was to be fastracked to FA, with Anita still being paid for some job or another. When all this came to light, Simtomatic said "oh, no, not again" and put in her resignation. Apparently she made it crystal clear that Anita is the SOLE REASON she has left. (The EffieB stuff came out after Simtomatic resigned...but how interesting, eh?)


Edited to clarify.


WOOOO! Very juicy. Thanks Hecubus.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 August 04, 18:12:44
But Simtomatic's stuff is still being held hostage, isn't it? >:(

Debushka, the person who posted after you in your GB--was that a real random TSR person, or one of us? :D  If the former--maybe they're catching on at last.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Owl on 2008 August 04, 18:15:11
I would imagine one of them, since we already know...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: DaBuschckah on 2008 August 04, 18:20:30
I hope that its a random TSR-er...I'd like to think that I made at least one sheep think with my Liz-asplosion... ;D


PS: just call me Liz, its worlds easier to spell than dabuschckah ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 04, 18:26:35
Liz...it WAS a random person....I responded to her in a pm (cause you no longer could)...I said, "Yes, it's true, but I can't say anymore here as I could get in trouble."

She responded "I understand, thanks for replying, I am so mad, I've been paying into this and find out its fake? Thank you."


So, yeah, Liz, you did reach at least one person....and maybe she'll tell two friends, and they'll tell two friends, and so on, and so on......

hehe, sorry, even after a couple decades, that stupid commercial still rings in my ears....hehe


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: DaBuschckah on 2008 August 04, 18:35:47
*Does happy dance :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: BlueButterfly on 2008 August 04, 19:16:32
This thread is so much fun! I love sitting back and watching TSR explode. It's slowly, but surely doing just that


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 04, 19:33:31
Looks like TSR is gonna crash and burn like the Roman Empire. MOAR DRAMA!  :D

BTW, Liz's stab at TSR = epic win.  ;D

Edited because DaBusch-idk is confusing and I like Liz better


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: keirra on 2008 August 04, 20:03:44
PS: just call me Liz, its worlds easier to spell than dabuschckah ;)

You might want to put "Call me Liz" in your sig line or change your username. Otherwise, I will probably call you DaBus. I'm lazy that way.  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 August 04, 20:20:06
Haha does anyone else feel like naughty little schoolchildren doing this?
It serves them right I know, but omg I'm having so much fun!
I'm trying to resist the temptation of doing something naughty also, as TSR is worse than dog poo to me now, but I'd feel horrible copying Liz :P
*Hands Liz looooooads of rum*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 04, 20:59:34
Beth, haven't you heard that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery?? Go nuts girl!! Consider it an "en homage" to Liz if you will, or just finally rinsing all that TSR lice outta your hair.   hehe.


(man, should I even be encouraging the crazy nut-jobs around here???   ;D)


("Nut-jobs" is spoken with true affection, guys!)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 August 04, 21:11:26
*Wonders what to do*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 04, 21:16:48
Well, if you DO decide to do something, take screenshots, and keep us posted blow by blow.....I still got some popcorn left over from Liz's show last night.....now to find some Dr Pepper......!!!     ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 August 04, 22:15:06
It starts...

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/bethbrit2001/step1.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/bethbrit2001/step2.jpg

Sure, not as daring as Liz's but I'll get there.

For example, the temptation of writing the word BOOTY in huge letters, bold writing on this (http://forums.thesimsresource.com/showthread.php?t=357806) thread is killing me.
I wanna do but I don;t wanna be banned just yet as I have oh so more to give :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 04, 22:27:01
Nice start, nice start......what's next, hon?  hehe.

Well, you can always send multiple pms to newer people, advertising the booty.....take them longer to track those.....lol...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 August 04, 22:29:08
Hmmm....I have a plan!

BBS :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 04, 22:39:38
Hmmm....I have a plan!

BBS :P

Oooh, I'm getting a little excited  :D :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 August 04, 22:42:54
Lol, it's not that exciting!

I just spent a quick 5 minutes doing what everybod else has probably already done....making a poster :P
Basically my plan was to get as many new people knowing about here as possible, so I made

this

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/bethbrit2001/miscellaneous/warning.jpg)

It's crap, I know, but I don't care as I wanna be naughty :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 04, 22:46:55
Where did you post this?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: cookiepirate on 2008 August 04, 22:50:43
Liz...it WAS a random person....I responded to her in a pm (cause you no longer could)...I said, "Yes, it's true, but I can't say anymore here as I could get in trouble."

She responded "I understand, thanks for replying, I am so mad, I've been paying into this and find out its fake? Thank you."


So, yeah, Liz, you did reach at least one person....and maybe she'll tell two friends, and they'll tell two friends, and so on, and so on......

hehe, sorry, even after a couple decades, that stupid commercial still rings in my ears....hehe

Faberge Organic Shampoo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgDxWNV4wWY&NR=1) with wheat germ oil and honey?  Memory is a little fuzzy. 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 August 04, 22:51:36
I haven't yet lol.
I might though.
To me TSR is a cult that brainwashes you into thinking subscribing for floodfill and chazcrap is all sunshine and daisies. I wanna be the one who clicks their fingers for the new cult followers and wake them up from their dream and into the real world :D

There was once a time where I once used to BEG my better half to borrow me some money for a subscription there, used to upload frequently too (not that my stuff was ever good -.-'), so in a way PMBD woke me up from the nightmare that is T$R and now I wanna do it too cos it seems like fun :D

Am I starting to look pathetic yet? :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 04, 22:52:37
No, you are starting to look......free.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 04, 23:34:33
Freedom is good. Helping others to become free is better. Blowing up repressive assholes like TSR is priceless.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: DaBuschckah on 2008 August 05, 00:07:35
And very, very fun. :D

Beth, I love your new 'about me'! Another idea is subtly slipping bits of the truth into stories or snapshots~ ::)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: deelink on 2008 August 05, 00:26:10
*chinks rum glasses with fellow pirates*

MOAR FIGHT!

This is great. Unfortunatly I am on permanent ban at TSR from my firewalls side. It can smell nasties and if it weren't for the screenshots here, I would be totally out of clue with what's going on.
From virus infestation, to spyware galore, smutty shitty TSR won't ever get a visit from me ever again. Death to TSR!




Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dina D on 2008 August 05, 00:38:15
Faberge Organic Shampoo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgDxWNV4wWY&NR=1) with wheat germ oil and honey?  Memory is a little fuzzy. 

 I really dislike that commercial! I still remember the first time I saw it...I was a teenager and stoned off my ass and that thing freaked the hell out of me!!  :D  but I probably fell asleep soon after it anyway.



Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Plum on 2008 August 05, 01:27:46
The WB is gonna make a new prime time drama out of this shit.  It just gets better and better.  xD


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Yarp on 2008 August 05, 01:36:51
A great summary, Tomato. But an honorary pirate? Um.... how about we just tie her to the masthead and let the enemy use her for target practice? (Oh oh! We can send her quail hunting with Dick Cheney!) But I digress.

Regarding Simtomatic: I was under the impression that she put in her resignation on Friday; was there nothing on her guestbook to signal her goodbyes? (BTW: We'll be keeping Simtomatic's stuff available in the booty until she's got it all released at Natural Sims. If Thomas 'frees' her, we'll move her stuff to retired artists until Natural's got her covered.)

I found it odd the the retirement was so vague:

"We are pleased to welcome 3 new artists to the group. There has been some retirements this month as well, but without further due please welcome the following artists to the group:"

I would have thought they'd at least announce them since it didn't seem like they left on bad terms. Plus, do they usually give SA status to someone so quickly? I like CherryND's things, but she only has a few up.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: FilthyPriest on 2008 August 05, 01:45:50
I've always hated TSR from 2005 and on ward. Hope fully this will make them crash and burn. Drinks six bottles of rum and uses the rest to fuel the fire. ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: netza on 2008 August 05, 05:22:35
It starts...

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/bethbrit2001/step1.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/bethbrit2001/step2.jpg

Sure, not as daring as Liz's but I'll get there.

For example, the temptation of writing the word BOOTY in huge letters, bold writing on this (http://forums.thesimsresource.com/showthread.php?t=357806) thread is killing me.
I wanna do but I don;t wanna be banned just yet as I have oh so more to give :P


I feel just as tempted and esp posting the graphic you did!   ;D

Anyway, is it possible to do a new account and spam their forum and get that account banned without losing the real one, or are they tracking/banning IP:s?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 05, 06:35:22
Well, Netza...I will say this. 

I know of a couple of people...who have more than one persona on TSR....and while supposedly TSR is able to track that...they are rather lax, cause those people still have their multiple accounts....and use them. Why, I'm not sure, I don't question their motives. But they exist.

And..I have heard about others who get mad, and do just as you are thinking....and their original accounts are still there even when the naughty one gets cut.

So, I would think that, yeah...you could probably get another account under a different name...maybe it would get caught...most likely not...that's my guess. Just from what I have observed.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: netza on 2008 August 05, 09:29:10
Ok, Thanks for the info. I will think of this someday when I have nothing better to do. :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 August 05, 09:39:36
Awwwww
They made my profile unpublished :[


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 August 05, 11:11:12
They read everything we post here, so plans are best kept to pm's. ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: FilthyPriest on 2008 August 05, 11:15:15
I forgot what was atwats original name and site? Yeah my memory stinks.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 05, 13:30:36
Wasn't it Anita? But for the site, no idea.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 05, 13:46:14
Your google fu fails you. Mine does not. http://hem.bredband.net/nitnit/sims_creations.htm (http://hem.bredband.net/nitnit/sims_creations.htm)  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 05, 13:52:15
Ahhh yeah! She was the one with the Pescado in jail pic ;D Still too funny to see!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: AsylumPrisoner on 2008 August 05, 13:53:50
Someone ought to do a picture of her behind bars and in a straight jacket!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: CaptainChris on 2008 August 05, 14:16:27
NitNit, that's right. More like NitWit.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: FilthyPriest on 2008 August 05, 15:21:00
Ahhh yeah! She was the one with the Pescado in jail pic ;D Still too funny to see!

I could tell Anita was lazy but her site is made of even more lazy fail.Yarg


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 05, 15:48:25
NitNit?? NIT??   Um...where I'm from a "nit" is another word for lice. As in hair/body lice......EWWWWW!!!!




Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 05, 15:52:16
lol same thing here river.... I didn't quite get it at first  :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 05, 15:57:39
Well, she is a parasite, and flea just doesn't impart the same amount of yuck that lice happens to, ya know?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 05, 16:03:31
So if we get special chemical shampoo we can rid ourselves of her!  ;D

http://www.entomon.net/parasitic-flea-lice-insect-facts.htm

by reading that I think she is Pediculus capitis, or head lice

"are tiny, wingless parasitic insects that live amongst human hairs and feed on extremely small amounts of blood"


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 05, 16:32:32
I don't know about the "small amounts" part.... :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 05, 16:44:37
Depending on how active the little buggers are, they can cause a significant loss of blood and that bitch is a massive gaping maw when it comes to suckage... (Right, Thomass???)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 05, 17:10:02
What a horrible thing to say, how can you insult head lice like that?  :'(


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Silver Arrows on 2008 August 05, 17:11:46
Quote
Awwwww
They made my profile unpublished
Haha! You live and learn ;)

Best thing to do is go on a concentrated assault, but resist the temptation to post it here straight away. Wait a week or two, you'll do more damage that way.

Hmm, given the amount of peeps on T$R who recolour nouk meshes and then link back to nouk's site for the mesh, wouldn't a big PMBD/anti-paysite ad on nouk's site be effective at converting a few sheep? No? Just a thought.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 August 05, 22:01:11
Well if anyone fancies taking my banner and posting it anywhere, help yourselves.
It's only photobucket's bandwidth your using anyway.
I'm gonna be quiet for a few days and then strike again ;]


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: HeartOFire on 2008 August 05, 23:11:57
Silver Arrows....that happened on another site (won't say where bc. spys read here).  The paysite actually linked an item/mesh back to a filesharing site.  It was too funny!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Owl on 2008 August 05, 23:12:29
I went on a copy-and-paste comment rampage today  ;D

(http://i37.tinypic.com/wlc0nd.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 06, 00:07:01
Ok, I like that one, it got me laughing...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Beth on 2008 August 06, 00:27:29
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/bethbrit2001/bastards.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 06, 00:40:03
Ok, time to break out the backups and have them go to Steve, Thomass and whoever to complain about this then. Also, have people you know and trust posting about how your retirement is not quiet and you want your stuff OUT of there because you are posting it on a FREE site. Get loud, get rude, get nasty and cause those fucks some butthurt. And if they are reading here they'll figure out that many of us will spread the word into the community. Also, you can inform EA that you have quit the bastards and they will not release your content. Hey, I know EA sucks, but the threat has worked before...

ETA: Remind me not to post, text and read messages at the same time, ok? But, the advice for getting your stuff outta there still stands...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Silver Arrows on 2008 August 06, 11:25:41
I like that Did You Know in your screenie, beth.

"You can download all your own submissions without subscribing..." Holy cow?!?! Is that for real?!?!?!?!!? I'm thinking of submitting just so I can redownload my own CC! ZOMG!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 August 06, 12:17:11
That does sound annoying, until the time you need to download older creations >.>  Of course, all my stuff is on MTS2 or Insim.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 06, 15:41:24
That's what labeled disks of content are for. Unless you misplace the disk, of course.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 06, 22:10:25
I like that Did You Know in your screenie, beth.

"You can download all your own submissions without subscribing..." Holy cow?!?! Is that for real?!?!?!?!!? I'm thinking of submitting just so I can redownload my own CC! ZOMG!

You nearly made me spit out my ice cream  :P


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 07, 01:41:51
Ice cream?! Arg, i'm dying from the heat (30°C in that fucking room!) and you're eating an ice cream? You little.... AAAAGH!
*melts from the heat*

 ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Feverish on 2008 August 07, 01:47:57
If the converter is correct, this week, it's been between 38-41°C(100-107°F) where I live. I hate the weather here.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 07, 04:01:38
Ice cream?! Arg, i'm dying from the heat (30°C in that fucking room!) and you're eating an ice cream? You little.... AAAAGH!
*melts from the heat*

 ;D

Yup. Rum-flavored  :D :P

Not really, it was actually vanilla. lol


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 August 07, 23:16:20
*shakes fist*

We need dry heat damnit, not this humid shit! And take your storms with you - we're not meant to be getting marble sized hail stones much like they do in America (or even worse, golf ball sized). We're the little wet, damp, cold country - I want to keep it that way >:(


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 07, 23:53:47
38-41? Okay you win feverish, we have 35 outside and are deeply bad :-X But we had 40-42°c a couple of years ago and it was seriously dramatic.

Yup. Rum-flavored  :D :P
Not really, it was actually vanilla. lol
Eeeeew rum-flavored ice cream. Really not appealing lol vanilla is way better, lucky for ya ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 08, 00:20:27
Rum-raisin ice cream is awesome... Goes well with shots of rum... I have rum on the brain...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: WolfSilverOak on 2008 August 08, 00:35:36
*comes out of lurk mode*

Came to this particular thread via GoS, to see what the devil everyone was buzzing about.

3.5 hours later (with breaks, had to go get the hubby from work for an hour of that time, heh), I now know more about the bull that goes on at TSR than I ever wanted to.

Wow.  Just... wow.

I made the mistake of giving them money for a sub early last year. That was before it went up (I KNEW it had, I knew I wasn't that crazy!), but when I saw the increase, said screw that. Besides, many of the CC artists I used to download from there... are no longer there.  And I can get the others here, like I've been doing.

Now if I can only convince my SiL to stop giving them money for a sub she doesn't even use.....


(Oh, and yeah, thanks for making me hungry. Rum Caramel Popcorn sounds great. Now I want to go make homemade Rum Raisin Ice Cream. *glares*)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Yarp on 2008 August 08, 01:31:59
I'm curious to know if anyone has heard an update. I swear this is better than daytime soaps. Especially since I hate soaps. Caramel popcorn sounds yummy!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zillah on 2008 August 08, 01:43:36
So, I go on vacation and come back to find all hell broken loose.  :o
Awesome.
Any popcorn left? I'm settling in to survey the damage.  :D
z


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: FilthyPriest on 2008 August 08, 03:08:02
Sure there is popcorn left. But calalily is being stingy. :'(


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 08, 03:29:04
I've got some over here, along with some cookies! You'll have to bring more rum, though, I think Jojoba has been in my stash again...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: FilthyPriest on 2008 August 08, 03:34:07
Steals Padens cookies and shoves them down Anita's throat until shes unconscious then I keelhaul her.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: fway on 2008 August 08, 04:18:12
I hat rum raisin ice cream, this chinese buffet we usually go to has it in their desert thing, and I always confuse it for chocolate chip :'( it tastes nasty... but another store is funkey monkey ice cream from Ben & Jerrys. MFG... they're awesome.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 08, 05:04:26
Sure there is popcorn left. But calalily is being stingy. :'(

I'll be stingy with you too soon FilthyPriest, and keep your funny arse all to myself.  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 August 08, 05:48:16
I'm hoping that tomorrow/today causes some butthurt, but I'm ready for it to be anticlimactic.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: pixelated on 2008 August 08, 07:55:05
I hat rum raisin ice cream, this chinese buffet we usually go to has it in their desert thing, and I always confuse it for chocolate chip :'( it tastes nasty...

Clearly you're not a real pirate, like me. I love rum raisin ice cream, it's one of my biggest obsessions. That, and MOAR FIGHT.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 August 08, 11:49:59
Now we've hit the lull after the storm...damn, I want more damnit :D

Also - wtf? What happened to the PMBD pirate ship at the top? All I can see is a screaming baby :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 08, 11:55:05
What if Pes is a father! *dun dun dun*


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 08, 12:27:54
Wouldn't the baby have a stubble and eyepatch?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 August 08, 12:35:07
Yes it would but, this one looks normal so can't be Pes' :P

What on earth has he been upto :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 08, 16:41:41
I never saw no pirate ship, all I ever saw was a flag...but the baby is funny.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Jojoba on 2008 August 08, 17:51:04
What if Pes is a father! *dun dun dun*

Well there were rumours you know...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 08, 22:19:45
The name of the pic is butthurt.jpg  ::)

Pes cracks me up  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 09, 07:21:11
The simsecret is up.  Juicy goodness right here (http://community.livejournal.com/simsecret/25323.html?#cutid1) - No.38 secret.  :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 August 09, 07:42:20
The Xandher secret.... Thomas if you're getting rid of a hair creator you're a dumbass. That's probably the only one on TSR that actually creates his own mesh and textures. Ehm... most of the time.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Azaya on 2008 August 09, 07:46:28
Actually, I could be wrong, but I don't think Xandher actually meshes much at all, s/he mostly recolors other people's meshes, but yeah, with his/her own textures. Silly of him either way.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 09, 08:05:58
Yeah, Xander retextures other people's meshes, and makes skintones.  No hairmeshing in evidence.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Plum on 2008 August 09, 08:12:36
S/he's one of the few FAs I still hit the booty for.  I don't care for most of his/her stuff, but some of that stuff I just love.  That secret has me curious as a kid with a kitten and a blender.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anouk on 2008 August 09, 09:34:24
Oh really. See that's just how much I use TSR stuff. Not.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Anyerfillag on 2008 August 09, 10:07:18
Sweet, we have one summarising the recent internal mayhem at T$R and then one about Xandher? Oooo, I really really want to see what the outcome for the latter is XD

Also - yay for more GoS grudge attacks ::) Although, isn't that first secret about the recent Daum fiasco considered talking about it again? Pes - need some help with the axe grinding? :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Minolia on 2008 August 09, 10:14:49
Sweet, we have one summarising the recent internal mayhem at T$R and then one about Xandher? Oooo, I really really want to see what the outcome for the latter is XD

Also - yay for more GoS grudge attacks ::) Although, isn't that first secret about the recent Daum fiasco considered talking about it again? Pes - need some help with the axe grinding? :D

Come on Pes, you know that grinding that axe would = butthurt and lolz.  ;D

And yes it would be nice if Xandher came to the light side (actually it would be nice if any FAs left that shit hole)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 August 09, 11:58:38
Oh teh drama! Oh the lulz! Oh, how I love this community.  ;D

I demands MOAR drama!

Congratulations to Simtomatic for going free. Yay!  :D

OffTopic:
That last SimSecret #56: It's not my secret but after reading some of that thread at GOS it could be.
Quote
It's all of you guys who should realize that it is against the law to "share" things without the owner's permission.
Oh, yes, the internet law, how could I forget?!!? ::)
 
People like that deserve all the butthurt they can get.  >:(

/OffTopic


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: FilthyPriest on 2008 August 09, 12:13:35
Sure there is popcorn left. But calalily is being stingy. :'(

I'll be stingy with you too soon FilthyPriest, and keep your funny arse all to myself.  :D

Oh will you now :o ;) :D
Yeah simsecret 44 almost describes me perfectly.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pescado on 2008 August 09, 12:27:40
Also - wtf? What happened to the PMBD pirate ship at the top? All I can see is a screaming baby :D
The pirate ship hasn't been there since we moved off of phpbb and it didn't fit. We briefly had the Malaysian Flag there, but it was too much like MATY. So I replaced it with an icon of what PMBD exists for: Butthurt! You may recognize it from ED's Butthurt template.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Emma on 2008 August 09, 12:49:11
Also - wtf? What happened to the PMBD pirate ship at the top? All I can see is a screaming baby :D
The pirate ship hasn't been there since we moved off of phpbb and it didn't fit. We briefly had the Malaysian Flag there, but it was too much like MATY. So I replaced it with an icon of what PMBD exists for: Butthurt! You may recognize it from ED's Butthurt template.

Plus, Pescado lurves babiez.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: dietofworms on 2008 August 09, 15:53:26
So...um...what do those of you who are in the know make of the Secret?

Sounds like Xander's being pushed overboard, right?

Do we have the usual perp to thank for that?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Pescado on 2008 August 09, 16:10:41
No, I don't. Death to Emma.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 09, 16:26:13
Well to me it could be a couple things.

1. Thomas sending a secret message to xander, but that doesn't really make any sense. He usually tries to keep the retirements a secret, so he can keep all the pay stuff to get more monies.

2. Atwat being a drama whore, which is highly possible.

3. Maybe someone else is getting ready to replace Xander, and truly hates xander so they made a secret about it...

To me option 2 is the most likely. Ever since the coconut files, she has been rather dormat....


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 09, 16:40:44
Oh will you now :o ;) :D
Yeah simsecret 44 almost describes me perfectly.

Plz post MOAR. No lurking required.

Oh really. See that's just how much I use TSR stuff. Not.

It's alright, I had to go look.  :D

Well to me it could be a couple things.

1. Thomas sending a secret message to xander, but that doesn't really make any sense. He usually tries to keep the retirements a secret, so he can keep all the pay stuff to get more monies.

2. Atwat being a drama whore, which is highly possible.

3. Maybe someone else is getting ready to replace Xander, and truly hates xander so they made a secret about it...

To me option 2 is the most likely. Ever since the coconut files, she has been rather dormat....

There is another option of course.  It could be that Xander is part of the Atwat support network and someone is systematically bringing down her goons and ways into TSR. But I know nothing of the inner political machinations of TSR, so I can't measure the veracity of this.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 09, 19:23:24
Simsecret is made of lulz. I have this temptation to make a secret just to screw around with the community  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Tabby on 2008 August 09, 20:41:41
 I was expecting something more dramatic, honestly. I think Pes does have babies, AND that he loves them all dearly. Perhaps that why he protests so much.  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 09, 21:54:05
I will admit...as someone who knows personally a victim of child molestation, I find the image of a crying baby labled "butthurt", rather uncomfortable.

I know this is Pes' site and he/she can do whatever they want, I'm not saying anything like that. I'm also not accusing ANYONE  of ANYTHING.  I'm just merely expressing my discomfort at the imagery.

Now, pass me the rum, please.   :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: missangelica on 2008 August 09, 23:45:16
I will admit...as someone who knows personally a victim of child molestation, I find the image of a crying baby labled "butthurt", rather uncomfortable.

I know this is Pes' site and he/she can do whatever they want, I'm not saying anything like that. I'm also not accusing ANYONE  of ANYTHING.  I'm just merely expressing my discomfort at the imagery.

Now, pass me the rum, please.   :)

OK, that's just silly.  I don't know if you haven't heard the term outside this forum or what but it's odd that you're acting upset over the term being used to describe a picture that's obviously just a child having a tantrum.

Here is the definition of butthurt from UrbanDictionary:
An inappropriately strong negative emotional response from a perceived personal insult. Characterized by strong feelings of shame. Frequently associated with a cessation of communication and overt hostility towards the "aggressor."

If you don't like it then you can adblock the image.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: vindi on 2008 August 10, 01:36:31
Maybe the kid was just spanked? Or, it could be typical baby behavior... Crying. :'(


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 10, 02:14:54
Or it could be constipation, but I do see why she wouldn't much care for the title.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: River on 2008 August 10, 02:18:51
Missangelica, calm down, hon. I already said it was only my opinion. I wasn't condemning anyone, nor was I saying to take it down. I was responding to the current chatting about the picture. It just strikes me that way. Doesn't mean I'm right, youre wrong, or anything of the sort. It was merely my contribution and opinion to the current conversation. I wasn't upset, YOU are upset because I said something. So, please, relax, it's not that big a deal, ok?  All is cool.   :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 10, 04:17:43
It's okay River. Sometimes things can be misinterpreted. ;)

I was hoping Atwat would go on a crazy rampage on Simsecret, but I'm not that lucky this week  :P 


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Dr House on 2008 August 10, 05:05:56
What about a pirate flag just like Pescado's avi?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: calalily on 2008 August 10, 05:21:45
OK, that's just silly. 


Agreed.

What about a pirate flag just like Pescado's avi?

There's no need to change it - it's just a baby crying. Very symbolic of what paysite owners come here to do - cry about their stuff in the booty and have a tantrum on the phorum. Srsly - reading too much into it - there will always be someone who reads too much into whatever we put up there. If Pescado put the pirate flag up there, there'd inevitably be someone who reads into it that PMBD endorses sadistic killings or something completely unrelated.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 10, 06:05:44
Or they would think we advocate all sorts of illegal activities such as the imagination can only suggest.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 10, 17:54:15
Or they would think we advocate all sorts of illegal activities such as the imagination can only suggest.

Wait? We don't? Damn. :'(


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 10, 19:35:10
Well, stringing idiots like Thomass and beating him like a pinata, though fun, is illegal. I don't have the money to put down for bail on all of you guys...


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Owl on 2008 August 10, 19:38:19
Aww, you don't? :-\

...I'm gonna do it anyway!  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 10, 19:54:05
For you, I will use trading stamps... And a cake with a file in it.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Panthpirate on 2008 August 10, 20:53:23
Well, stringing idiots like Thomass and beating him like a pinata, though fun, is illegal. I don't have the money to put down for bail on all of you guys...

Well in MY bill of rights, that subject is covered in amendment #6:
Any paysite owners are subject to being a hit like a pinata on all Caturdays   :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: kenmtl on 2008 August 11, 01:37:53
Paden, hon, the cake is a lie. But if you put it in a burrito that would be nomnomable and in keeping with the pinata party theme.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 11, 04:31:34
True, but how bout we make it fajitas instead or enchiladas?? Burritos give ME massive gut hurt... Thought I was gonna say butt hurt, didn't cha??


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Plum on 2008 August 11, 04:37:48
Well the gut hurt does tend to lead to the butthurt anyway.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 11, 04:46:30
Especially if many different spices are used... Or too much chili powder. Man, I so did not wanna think about that!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: karu on 2008 August 11, 22:12:28
Aww, you don't? :-\

...I'm gonna do it anyway!  :D

arggg  ye has me avi I be havin' since 06'


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Plum on 2008 August 12, 04:57:16
OMG SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME I SWEAR TO GOD.

xD

Get a mod to change theirs to a poop.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: alia on 2008 August 12, 09:00:46
Aww, you don't? :-\

...I'm gonna do it anyway!  :D

arggg  ye has me avi I be havin' since 06'

Owl, I think you should change your avi, since Karu's been using it for ages.
I see your avi and think: "Oh, Karu's posted something" but then it's not her but you and I'm all confused.

Karu, I still love your avi. It's so incredibly cute, and definitely a part of PMBD. Never change it!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 August 12, 15:46:17
Some things are better handled in PMs, ya know?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 12, 16:11:26
There is a difference in the two; Owl's has printing and karu's is blank, but yeah, they are rather too similar for comfort. Private messages FTW!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 August 12, 16:36:53
The advantage of creating your own - someone actually -has- to try and copy it, or actually 'steal' it.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: karu on 2008 August 12, 16:57:14
Some things are better handled in PMs, ya know?

the owl does not respond to my pm

(http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/7001/owloliver1ch0.jpg)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: pixelated on 2008 August 13, 02:03:32
Still, if s/h/it is ignoring your PMs, spamming every thread s/h/it is in won't do you any good either. I don't see why it's such a big deal, since it's nothing you made yourself (I assume?), but if it really bothers you this much, try talking to one of the "mods" and see if they can solve it/send a message to Pes to solve it. Or just contact the dread pirate directly, if you dare.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 13, 02:35:54
I think Karu did make that avatar if I'm correct?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 13, 02:50:45
Dunno, thought it was one of the stock avi's offered, but then again I have been wrong before. I've seen it all over the net, though, with different phrases. Maybe if we could find a pirate owl? It may just be a case of Owl not being back to the site since it was noticed? Dunno.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: soulpatrolmn on 2008 August 13, 03:20:23
Here are a few
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h188/jenny_dunagan/ScreenShot002.png)(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h188/jenny_dunagan/ScreenShot003-1.png)(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h188/jenny_dunagan/ScreenShot007.png)
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h188/jenny_dunagan/il_430xN_20658022.png)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: pixelated on 2008 August 13, 03:39:50
I think Karu did make that avatar if I'm correct?
If you consider googling "cute kitten" and "pirate hat" and then pasting the two together as made, then yes I suppose. I just meant that it was hardly something that is hard to imitate, or took a lot of work/creativity. That said, I know that some people put a lot of thought into their avatars, and feel that they're a big part of their e-persona (but in those cases you'd choose something more personal, like calalily's scary hair or Paden's panthers, not a random cat with a pirate hat which is very common on these boards), so I can see how it sucks. I just don't see how it warrants all this butthurt and spamming.

ETA: Soulpatrolmn, those are cute. I see you found one for yourself as well. :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 August 13, 04:11:21
To play devil's advocate, however, except for the text there is -no- difference between the two - which means either a common source or the picture was done by one of them and 'borrowed' by the other.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: soulpatrolmn on 2008 August 13, 04:59:18
Thanks. I didn't mean to use an owl also, but I thought it was funny. Here are a few more cute pirate pics someone can use as avis.
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h188/jenny_dunagan/Jack_the_Pirate_1152867986.jpg)(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h188/jenny_dunagan/PIRATEduck.jpg)(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h188/jenny_dunagan/pirate.jpg)
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h188/jenny_dunagan/pirate-cat.jpg)(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h188/jenny_dunagan/pirate-dog.jpg)
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h188/jenny_dunagan/pirate_flipoff_flag.jpg)(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h188/jenny_dunagan/piratearr.jpg)
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h188/jenny_dunagan/thumbnailCA91WT4S.jpg)(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h188/jenny_dunagan/thumbnailCAAD1BTW.jpg)(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h188/jenny_dunagan/thumbnailCAT3GCT9.jpg)

Ok, I'm done. Sorry for flooding the thread with pics!


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 13, 05:45:55
I think Karu did make that avatar if I'm correct?
If you consider googling "cute kitten" and "pirate hat" and then pasting the two together as made, then yes I suppose. I just meant that it was hardly something that is hard to imitate, or took a lot of work/creativity. That said, I know that some people put a lot of thought into their avatars, and feel that they're a big part of their e-persona (but in those cases you'd choose something more personal, like calalily's scary hair or Paden's panthers, not a random cat with a pirate hat which is very common on these boards), so I can see how it sucks. I just don't see how it warrants all this butthurt and spamming.

ETA: Soulpatrolmn, those are cute. I see you found one for yourself as well. :D

To me, that's still making it  ;) I know even if I wanted something that simple done, I wouldn't be able to do it. And honestly to find a good avvie, or even a good picture for it can take some time....*reminisces about popomundo....*

You are correct, it doesn't need all the attention, and honestly I would like to know if owl has even logged into the site to defend/give their side of the story. Yes Karu had that avi for a long time, but do we know for certain Owl got the avvie from Karu?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Piratey on 2008 August 13, 15:57:56
I still think the picture of Pescado in jail was funnier.  ;D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Ry on 2008 August 14, 01:16:55
Quote
PesIsAnAssWipe
:D

He should change your name to, "Lookit Me!"


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paleoanth on 2008 August 14, 01:29:11
I have to say your s/n made me laugh.  Am I a bad person?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: keirra on 2008 August 14, 02:40:00
I don't care anyway, it's temporary.

Huh? What? Why?  ??? You picked that as your u/n, but only temporarily?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Yaardarm Monkey II on 2008 August 14, 03:21:17
I don't care anyway, it's temporary.

wtf ??

is this Mrs Pescado?

 :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: spunkysim on 2008 August 14, 04:28:09
soulpatrolmn, may I swipe one?  I love the "Jack the Pirate" one.   ;)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Missbonbon on 2008 August 14, 05:17:39
Thanks. I didn't mean to use an owl also, but I thought it was funny. Here are a few more cute pirate pics someone can use as avis.
*giant snip!*

Ok, I'm done. Sorry for flooding the thread with pics!

Soulpatrolmn may I yonk the rubber duckie?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: keirra on 2008 August 14, 05:26:32
I would think they are up for grabs, or why post them?


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Plum on 2008 August 14, 06:15:22
Soulpatrolmn may I yonk the rubber duckie?

Heh, my dirty, dirty mind.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 14, 06:50:55
Rubber duckie, you're the one, you make bathtime so much fun... Every day when I make my way to the tubbie, I find a little fellow who's cute and yellow and chubby, rubba dub dubbie!! *squeak squeak* Sorry, that is what having kids will do to a person's mind...  :D


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: ChaosInAMinor on 2008 August 14, 07:15:48
Rubber duckie, you're the one, you make bathtime so much fun... Every day when I make my way to the tubbie, I find a little fellow who's cute and yellow and chubby, rubba dub dubbie!! *squeak squeak* Sorry, that is what having kids will do to a person's mind...  :D

I was definitely thinking the same thing...but I'm only 20 and thus do not have children...just a very selective memory.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: soulpatrolmn on 2008 August 14, 12:20:16
Go ahead and swipe or yonk them....that's what they're there for  :)


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Plum on 2008 August 14, 12:34:37
Having kids?  Pfft.  I still sing that song in the bubble tub after all these years.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: Paden on 2008 August 14, 16:46:40
Plum FTW! It's nice to know that other people share some of the same habits, proves that I've not developed premature senility. Yet.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
Post by: SoggyFox on 2008 August 14, 17:29:19
I just figure, no matter how old our bodies get, that we're still about 8 on the inside.  Except for those poor folks born 50.


Title: Re: Poor Atwat....
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