PMBD

It looked okay as usual on the model, so I decided to try it out (from the booty of course ;)). As I was playing with it in-game...

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y232/dancegurl1708/AAAHHHHH.jpg)
And all I was doing was turning the model to see all sides!

Well, if Juice thinks it's okay to animate a hair like that, he is VERY WRONG.

Sexy!

Actually, I think it's only like that for teens (it was animated normally on adults), but that's still enough to delete it!

Here's another shot of the "strange" animation:

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y232/dancegurl1708/EWWWWWW.jpg)

Oh my, that's embarrasing.

holy fuck  :shock:
did she shrink on the preview picture or what? And how the hell did it end up on her face? Peggy is a(n evil) genius for borking a hair mesh this much.

It was like a bobblehead - but only the hair!! Disgusting.

Wow, but that is genius! Obviously when the file is downloaded from the booty, the animation is magically altered to to do an eye patch, YARR! :lol:

OMG thats aweful she should be ashamed of herself.

OMG! What in the....
That is just scary. A new low, even for Peggy.
It's too bad, it looked really pretty in the previews.
Maybe someone will fix it.

I seriously wonder if peggy/juice actually ever test their creations in the game.

And here I was thinking it was an intentional homage to Calalily's avatar.  :lol:

Yeah.  We'll all be dead for a hundred years before PeggyJuice actually fixes some piece of crap they got paid for.

And there are STILL some who call filesharers thieves...!  There are STILL some who defend paysite practices...!

That pic should serve as the poster child of why paysites should die.

Actually, the hair is good in-game. It depends on the model. I don't have a pic of it in-game with me, but I have a bodyshop pic.


(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k104/Vannfam1/Request_3.jpg)

I think she was only having a problem with the teen version.

Haha, I'm so dumb :P I didn't understand that at first. I'm gonna check in bodyshop what it looks like on a teen, because I think it's fine for me.


Edit: It's fine to me. I just think it's your sims head.

(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k104/Vannfam1/peggy.jpg)

It's the animation that's pushing the hair into the face like that.. it's not a problem when the sim is stationary.  (You will not see the problem in Body Shop.)

In bodyshop most hairs look nice. But once the sim starts moving, the animation is quite weird. This time it's the bangs that move through the head, the last ponytail was animated, but just the lower third which moves were really weird, same with some other new hair. And some pretty old hairs moved through the body as a whole.
I don't know if it is really hard to animate a hair in a nice way, but I'd prefer stiff hair over weird animation. I hoped that their animation skills developed and improved since they first tried, and some hairs have been ok when only certain parts were animated, but things like these are just a sign for bad work.

A quick look at the teen hairmesh in milkshape shows that someone was drunk or rushed when it was made since every single bone in the entire teen mesh is assigned to b_hair.  I fixed the hair group (and fixed the neck gap as an added bonus) before I realized it was all of the layers not just the one.  I'm going to fix it all since I like the hair, but I'm too sleepy now :)

Make sure you demand a cut of whatever Peggy and her Minions of EVILLE are making off their craptacular crap, since you know...  You actually did their work for them, since they couldn't be bothered.

You should post it when you're done. Either here or at SFV.

Or both, since not all of us visit SFV, and not everyone who visits SFV goes here.  :wink:

I wouldn't doubt that Juice was drunk when he made the hair.  They've got to be drinking some quality stuff with the money they're making.

*laughing tooooooo hard to comment*

Thats horrible...

I dont care if its ONLY the teen part that was having issues, if ANY of it is having issues you just DO NOT SELL IT TO PEOPLE!

You wouldnt sell a Plasma TV that you couldnt adjust the sound on would you?

You just dont sell an unfinished product, if its not finished, if you cant fix it, if its bugged, no matter which way or what, you just scrap it, or put it aside tofix it and go onto something else, or just fix it all together before you put it up for sale.

This is sad.

Could be juice is finally cracking under the pressure of working for the crazy pixie lady.

Or maybe, it's a coded message. Something along the lines of, "HELP ME! SHE'S INSANE!"

We may never know.

I don't actually know how she animates hair, but the meshes I looked at are all set at skin wghts:1 which severely limits how you can animate.  I had to change this value to do something simple like fix the neck gap.  I don't know much about other ways to make hair than with milkshape or the ways people first made hair, since I only started to fool with it this year, so I don't know why you would do it this way.  I suspect that this causes the jerky animation.  Someone like Nouk would know better, however.  By contrast if you look at one of her hairs, she's assigning the same vertex to multiple bones to get a much nicer and smoother result.  



I'll do that when I'm done, though it's just going to have his (her?- is juice a girl?) original animation, which I will not vouch for :)


Ah if only, then I could stay home from work today!  Hmmm...I'm a pretty good hair mesh fixer right now, but learning the making from scratch perhaps I'm ignoring a lucrative opportunity..... :twisted:

Oh so worth your money  :lol:  :lol:

Okay here is my fix.  As an added bonus I fixed the neck gap on the other ages, while I was poking at it.  I tested it a bit in that I looked at all the ages and made sure they didn't blow up when they were animating (which seems to be more than was done originally).  It could use some more testing, so guniea pigs....er...kind helpful testers are welcome.  I didn't change the animations, except to make the teen hair and scalp not move independantly of the rest of the sim, and to be identical to the other ages in animation.  So if the animations are funky you know who to call :).

This is just a mesh replacement and not recolors, so it needs to replace the original Peggy mesh and you need to have recolors installed for it to work.  Let me know if it works (or not) for you.  If all is well with it I'll post it on SFV as well.  :)

http://www.mediafire.com/?62mw1ee9fpj

Thank you, this comes in handy because I'm just recoloring the hair.
I'll test it later today.

Thanks for fixing it! I actually really liked how the hair looks, the animation was just a little disturbing. haha

Thank you for fixing! :)

It makes me so mad that neither Peggy or Juice can be bothered to even open up their games and test the dang hairs they actually expect payment on. Jerks. They just piss me off.

Thank you for fixing the mesh.  Peggy/Juice always seem to need help, and, I am always looking for fixes to their shoddy work.

Heh, i`m not the clearest after some bottles o` rum.
What I was trying to say is the the sim seems shorter than a normal sim teen on the first pic (on my post called preview pic). Isn`t that the height of a sim kid?    :shock:

Yay, thanks for the fix'd mesh.  :D

I almost forgot that for wants/fears that affect influence, there's a blue border around it--I've been using the replacement that makes the blue border into a little triangle for so long that I thought that was the default.  :lol:

Juice is a guy.  Unless I'm completely misinformed, which has happened before.

Yes Juice is a guy. There's a picture of him floating around somewhere. He's without a shirt and wearing a mullet. He's doing some vogue wannabe pose too I think. It's rather creepy. View at your own risk.

... O_O

I NEED THAT PICTURE, STAT!

that explains oh-so much.

Mullet!Juice pic here. (http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/8651/ewwjuicewl5.jpg) View at the risk of your sanity. D:

From about the shoulders down it ain't so bad. But small children have nightmares about that hair.

Rofl oh god  :shock:  :lol:

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

He's not too bad, I suppose. But I can't stop roffling.

He has...white eyes? ZOMG DEVIL FROM SUPERNATURAL. ZOMG.

No srsly...can't he afford a haircut or what.  :shock:  :lol:

I just saw a picture of that mullet and snorted a peanut halfway up my NOSE! *howls with pain and laughter* I needed something to laugh at, but Jesus H. Christ! That is hilarious! Billy Ray Cyrus must be soooo jealous....

My best guess is that he tries all those peggy-dos out on himself before proceeding to the actual meshing phase.

No, that mullet's not nearly gappy enough to be modeled on a Peggy hair.  There must be some other explanation.   :P

Those who fix Peggy and Rose meshes are my favorite people.  katra is now on that list.

It's a great honor, I assure you.

It's a teen, she was just moving her head around, nodding in approval (?) at her new hairdo.

She's talking about the first picture in the first post.  The only movement that goes on in there is the hair (if it's even animated) when you spin the Sim around fairly quickly.

I have it in my game and its unbearable. When ever the sim moces ever so slightly it cuts through her head like a bobblehead as someone else said. Its unusuable pretty much for teens. Ohh yea and whats with their black hairs now?! There purple!

Maybe, in her infinite wisdumb, Peggy has decreed that purple is the new black.

Tee hee!  I'm stealing that, mm-kay?  I'm gonna use it to describe some of America's "elected" officials...

thank you for fixing the hair katra, I can keep it in my game.

Uhh.. okay.. I DL'd free hair off peggy and the bone assignments SUCKED nuts.

I had to reassign all the bones myself. But I thought "Oh, I guess they don't care about FREE hair".

But now you say they make the same LAZY bone assignments on pay hair?

That's F@%^ing BULLcrap in a hat!

I am appalled

The bone assignements on all of the hair are not up to current standards.  Part of the problem is that however they make the hair, they are using older methods so that they only use 1 SknWght, and have to assign each Vert 100%, so they get jerky animation and neck gaps.  

I like the general hairstyles and use some.   I usually leave the animation as is because I don't feel like reassigning everything (and considering how high poly these are it's a pain).  I fixed this particular mesh because the animation generally made it unusable for teens.   The gaps actually bother me more, and I usually get around to fixing thse on hairs I use frequently.

Yea... neck gaps enrage me... but top and side gaps at the hairline enrage me too. My god peggy!! How can you charge money for stuff that is crappier than talented artists upload for free? It's sad, because some hair looks nice because of the textures and whatnot, but in-game, the animations are just BLEH.

I've seen free uploads with much better bone assignments.
Nouk's hair is great, the hair animations look super nice!

(I remember the old bone assignment days! That was 2005.... she's 2 years behind!)

I'm having problems with this peggy hair now...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v682/AnnieBonnie/Sims%201/Peggymeshruim.jpg)

I'm sure it is almost the same meah as the one in the begining of the thread...
Let me know if somebody fixed this one as well...

What problems are you having?  I don't mind taking a look at it, but it would help if I knew what I was looking for :)

From what I remember about that hair, if the Sim's forehead is not completely caved in, it clips through the bangs.

I can't speak for blodeuwedd, but I can tell you that the hair across the face clips through foreheads if they stick out too far (which is really not all that far out at all).  It drives me nuts because the style is perfect for one of my sims, except, uh, not.

This is the problem: I went in game to take a pic.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v682/AnnieBonnie/Sims%201/snapshot_b37a0ac6_339d9d48.jpg)

That's a shame. Your sim is just too cute for that hair.

*blushes* Thank you! But since someone fixed the other mesh (I'm almost sure they are the same) maybe there is a chance of fixing this one too... :oops:

How fucked up is it that the bitch that sells the mesh doesn't fix it?

Sorry, had to say it.  :oops:

I have the forehead problem with some of my Raon hairs too.  The meshes just aren't good quality.  When Renegade Sims went up with fixed meshes I was all kinds of happy, but they quickly were hit with hosting problems or something.

Well, it's not like everyone's not thinking it.  Katra could have a healthy side business selling repaired meshes to Peggy's pay clients.   :wink:

I do hope they come back up soon... :cry:

The textures on this suck, too.  But yeah, basically unless the forehead is caved in, the hair will sink into the forehead.

Now if only someone could fix this pretty formal hair. I personally use it all the time, but can't stand the horrid neck gaps!!

(http://memberarea.peggysims2.net/jpg/h_wfa_0046_s.jpg)

(Page 200, Hair set #399)

And if anyone has time, maybe they could fix the axe-head meshes that are:

(http://memberarea.peggysims2.net/jpg/h_fa_0523_s.jpg)

(Page 259, starting from hair #517)

and

(http://memberarea.peggysims2.net/jpg/h_fa_0527_s.jpg)

(Page 263, startign at Hair #525)

Yeah 3 requests is probably a bit much, so really only pay attention to teh first one, pretty please  :oops:

Requests are not taken here.  Try SFV (simsfilevault).

And read the stickied posts, which clearly state:  No Requests.

I'm not making a request for these hairs to be in the Booty - they're already there.

I was asking, just like Blodeuwedd did, if katra or someone could provide a FIX for these hairs.

I believe someone already fixed one of the latter two meshes. I can't remember who. Try checking one of the other peggy threads.

Thank you!!! Will do :)  Do you know if the first one i posted was ever fixed by anyone?  I tried looking here but I found one post that pointed it out, I think.

It's still a request.  A request is a request is a request, regardless of what you are actually requesting.

That said, I don't know the extent of the "no requests" rule, but I would like to request delicious cake.

I would bake you a chocolate tres leches cake if I could. Unfortunately, our oven isn't working right now. Er...and I don't actually know how to make that cake. But it's tasty,

Alright, my bad, but I'm not taking it back.  Instead, I'm making a new request - also for cake!  With some kind of alcohol...to enhance the taste, of course.. 8)

It might be worth trying DLMulsow's site. She has a number of paysite fixes and might be receptive to requests. Her site is down for maintenance right now but it can be found here (http://dlmulsowssimantics.freeforums.org/index.php).

For future reference, the best place to ask this sort of thing is SFV.

I think it would be quite funny... if PMBD not only had the booty, but ALSO had a little section where they would distribute pay hair (like peggy's) with all the bone assignments and GAPS fixed!

That would make the FREE hair on PMBD BETTER in quality than it's pay counterpart... which would just be too damn hilarious....

It may be too much of a bother to do that.. but I still think it's a funny idea...

It seems that we've already got a few fixed peggys here...

They do that at SFV, and at quite a few other sites - and they're free, so they're bootyless.

SFV has a section for that. I've gotten some nice and binned recolours of Peggy, Rose and Raon hairs I've got. Those kind of things are a godsend when paysite owners cannot even recolour hair realistic colours.

Yeah, the site will be back up soon.  What happened, if anyone cares, is the host was really dumb and had absolutely no kind of backup system for the non-paying members of their hosting stuff.  I found out by myself when I finally got on the internet, only to find I couldn't log into my account because it no longer existed.  Thinking my account had been suspended due to possible complaints, I e-mailed them asking why I couldn't access my site.  They sent a very short e-mail back, basically saying some crap happened to their servers and they lost everything, so I'd have to re-register.  They also were nice enough to let me know that they now have a backup system in place so that it doesn't happen again..:roll:

The only downside is that upon re-registering, I noticed that I'm now given less bandwidth than before, which could be a problem.

Anyway, I have backups of all my stuff, and I can deal with the bandwidth issue (I hope) should I run into that.

The main obstacle right now is not having internet.  Where I'm at currently, I don't own any kind of internet, and to get to a computer that has one is difficult.  I'm visiting a friend this week, and they have internet, so at the very least I can chat on the forums.

What sucks about all of this is that some hairs, such as the 399 set that someone mentioned, I was working on fixing.  That one in particular, Nouk was helping me with because Peggy is ridiculously stupid, but now I don't know what's going on with that.  Hopefully Nouk didn't forget about me!

Anyway, I babble too much and the main point is, I've been kind of working on things whenever I can.  That way, when my site does go back up, it will also have some new content.  The end.

*Renegade