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Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: sherrie on 2007 June 17, 16:21:47
TSR FA Milanocat has stolen my work and passed it off as her own (color tone differences due to lighting)

http://www.lianasims2.com/

Uploaded today by milano:

(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9127/lianasims2milano361au7.jpg)
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/7/lianasims2milano360ni7.jpg)


made by me on 3rd april:

(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/506/pinkvv9.png)
(http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2239/raspberrytg5.png)

so this is how TSR FA's make their money.


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: RedLove on 2007 June 17, 16:24:30
Wow. That's just so wrong. I always thought Milanocat made good things(or recolored good things). Why can't she just stick to recoloring Liana's meshes? She's so far up her ass I'm surprised she found her way out to steal yours  :lol:


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: calalily on 2007 June 17, 16:27:06
That's awful sherrie - but you do make the lovely dresses ripe for stealing  :lol:

Have you emailed the site, or left a message in their guestbook - maybe they will take it down - or risk the 2-for-u fiasco.


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: Feverish on 2007 June 17, 16:28:40
They look a little bit different. Are they photoskinned?


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: RedLove on 2007 June 17, 16:30:31
Quote from: "calalily"
That's awful sherrie - but you do make the lovely dresses ripe for stealing  :lol:

Have you emailed the site, or left a message in their guestbook - maybe they will take it down - or risk the 2-for-u fiasco.


Cala, liana has no gb xD Can you guess why?

Feverish: I think she means that she stole her mesh or am I just totally not getting what you are saying?


Title: Re: TSR FA steals from freesite
Post by: Hecubus on 2007 June 17, 16:32:52
It looks highly suspicious. I'd like to look at the textures and compare...can we get those dresses from Liana (read: are they free or pay)?


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: RedLove on 2007 June 17, 16:40:44
Yes Ma'am :D It's free


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: Jojoba on 2007 June 17, 16:41:08
Quote from: "Feverish"
They look a little bit different. Are they photoskinned?


Exactly my thinking  :?

You need to import the textures and compare them to know for sure


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: Treena on 2007 June 17, 16:43:27
I've downloaded both and looked at the textures using the Clean Installer. There's obvious differences between them both, especially the pink one. The ruffles in the skirt are a lot smaller in Milano's version. It looks like you've both just used the same source photo.


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: Quorneater on 2007 June 17, 16:46:23
The necklines are different too, and the bodice ends lower in the first lot.


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: sherrie on 2007 June 17, 16:46:50
[quote="RedLove]
Feverish: I think she means that she stole her mesh or am I just totally not getting what you are saying?[/quote]

No the mesh belongs to liana. its the dress texture and style  its also too much of a coincidence that 2 different dresses of mine that were copied belong to the same set I have, and are part of one set that the FA has.

I'm not sure if they are free or not, I will have to look again.


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: calalily on 2007 June 17, 16:53:17
I exported them in bodyshop, and looked at the textures - they're both photoskinned, but they are different. I was glad I did it too - now I can see what photoskinning looks like :)

The ruffles are smaller in the liana raspberry one, and it looks like the liana one has a few extra cloning strokes at the side for the other one.  Where you've gotten a clear view of the dress, they've cloned bits at the side.  The liana purple one is a bit crappy due to the cloned texture though - so good job.


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: RedLove on 2007 June 17, 16:59:20
Quote from: "sherrie_sim"
Quote from: "RedLove"

Feverish: I think she means that she stole her mesh or am I just totally not getting what you are saying?


No the mesh belongs to liana.


Ok because I had no idea what I was talkin' about. :D Creatin' isn't my thing.


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: sherrie on 2007 June 17, 17:27:34
I would have thought that maybe she used the same texture as I did as we are both photo skinners, if it were just one dress, but with it being both dresses from the same set and the same mesh, thats more than a coincidence for me, she may have modified the texture, (resizing the ruffles ect) but I still think that it was copied/lifted from my file. the only thing that would convince me otherwise is if milanocopykat can produce the origional picture for the dress.

As its being offered for free I will let it go, but the minute they appear as payfiles on TSR, (as I'm sure they will) I will make a formal complaint to EA.


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: SexySimVixen on 2007 June 17, 18:29:43
I agree that it's way too convenient that they both showed up at the same time in a set together. Perhaps they feel stealing from pirates isn't stealing. Don't you think that makes them the same. They are always bitching about how PMBD takes thier stuff and then they turn around and do the same thing. Hypocritical I think, Quite hypocritical.


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: Anouk on 2007 June 17, 18:56:40
You are being a pain in their asses lately, and this is a way to have a little revenge... showing you you are 'replacable'... Not very businesslike for a business...  more like petty.

That means you definately have their attention, so you do have an impact with what you do.


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: mando on 2007 June 17, 19:05:28
Probably she saw the dresses you made, said "Oh! How pretty!" and then figured she would try and make ones exactly (okay, really, really exactly) like them.

Oftentimes with photoskinning people will end up using the exact same source photo which can lead to confusion especially if she was using your dresses as "inspiration" (recently I can think of the situation around the similar lipsticks that Bruno and Iced Mango made, right).
 
However, if it did become pay I would throw a hairy stink about it too.


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: Paysitesfan on 2007 June 17, 19:24:49
don't bother! Milanos creations are much better than yours  :lol:  :wink:


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: Paden on 2007 June 17, 19:26:25
Quote from: "Paysitesfan"
don't bother! Milanos creations are much better than yours  :lol:  :wink:


Dry up and blow away!


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: Silvercoin on 2007 June 17, 19:31:38
Quote from: "Paysitesfan"
don't bother! Milanos creations are much better than yours :lol: ;)
Well, if that isn't the perfect example of what a slighted and bitter "paysites fan" would say if they weren't being treated like the special little snowflake they believe themselves to be, then I don't know what is.

Er, I mean, um... Ouch. Good one.


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: Bigtruckgirl on 2007 June 17, 19:35:34
Quote from: "Paysitesfan"
don't bother! Milanos creations are much better than yours  :lol:  :wink:



You are not a very effective troll. You joined several days ago, the average troll would have had at least 10-20 posts by now, the above average would have gotten into a few "pointless debates" by now and well, you the underachiever have 2 posts... not very impressive.


Ho-Hum

 :roll:


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: Feverish on 2007 June 17, 19:36:39
Actually, sherrie's is much better. It looks lika milano cut half the top off and the sims tig bitties are about to pop out. Sherrie's is better shaped at the top. Also, it's more obvious that milano's is photoskinned.


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: Anouk on 2007 June 17, 19:41:35
Uhm... don't get it. Lianasims and TSR are not the same, no? Shouldn't you complain about/to Liana instead?


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: Anouk on 2007 June 17, 19:42:27
Quote from: "Feverish"
Actually, sherrie's is much better. It looks lika milano cut half the top off and the sims tig bitties are about to pop out. Sherrie's is better shaped at the top. Also, it's more obvious that milano's is photoskinned.


nekkid is the new pink.


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: Feverish on 2007 June 17, 19:55:56
hmm...then what's the new nekkid? :wink:


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: Anouk on 2007 June 17, 20:02:34
The Nouk Cult. Join today!


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: sherrie on 2007 June 17, 20:06:55
Quote from: "N0uK!!EINZ"
Uhm... don't get it. Lianasims and TSR are not the same, no? Shouldn't you complain about/to Liana instead?


Milanocopykat is a TSR FA. Liana is fully aware of the theft, aware enough to (ask TSR for my ip?) and ban me from her site. so I shall have to send my complaint to her c/o her yahoo website host.

ETA: I think your right about TSR being upset, guessing this coinciding with my new policy page going up today, is a little more than a coincidence.


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: Broomhilda on 2007 June 17, 20:16:25
Quote from: "N0uK!!EINZ"
Quote from: "Feverish"
Actually, sherrie's is much better. It looks lika milano cut half the top off and the sims tig bitties are about to pop out. Sherrie's is better shaped at the top. Also, it's more obvious that milano's is photoskinned.


nekkid is the new pink.

I thought pink was the new black. I'm really out of fashion. :lol:


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: Feverish on 2007 June 17, 20:24:57
Well it seems pink is the new black. Nekkid is the new pink, and Nouk's Cult is the new nekkid.
I'm joining Nouk's Cult! Any cult that promotes nekkidness is the cult for me!


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: Paden on 2007 June 17, 20:25:01
You people are making me think I'm colour blind! I still wear the old black, blue, pink, etc cause I didn't know they had changed the names on the crayons! Seriously, fuck style, I make my own... Pass the rum, and make sure it's the 151! Arrrrrrr!


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: sherrie on 2007 June 17, 23:13:39
I have had a mail from Liana, from Lianasims2, who hosts the files I questioned. She kindly provided me with the original pictures used in the creations, along with the files to compare. I have not had time to compare the files, but I can confirm that these are the exact same pictures that I used for my dresses, and its now clear to me that I made a mistake and that it was just a  coincidence that we used the same picture for our dresses, resulting in them looking the same, and that they were not stolen. I would like to sincerely appologise to Liana for my mistake.


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: fionaskye on 2007 June 17, 23:18:41
Are they threatening to sue you?  Is that why you're apologising?  Is it just me, or am I being really, really cynical?


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: Anouk on 2007 June 18, 00:24:28
Quote from: "fionaskye"
Are they threatening to sue you?  Is that why you're apologising?  Is it just me, or am I being really, really cynical?


A mistake is a mistake, there's not always a deeper meaning or conspiracy.
 :D


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: Paden on 2007 June 18, 01:25:31
We all goof up, just look at me! On second thought, don't look at me unless you want to wet your pants laughing and knowing that yes, idiots can breathe and walk at the same time, while talking on a cell phone! Seriously, though, it's easy to make a mistake in the atmosphere of the Sims 2 community, because there are paysite owners who do rip off the free creators. One is Thomass, who keeps the work of artists who are no longer contributing to his bullshite site and he doesn't get their permission but blatantly tells them that their work is on his site and it's gonna stay there. Bastards abound and it sometimes happens that mistakes are made. The important thing is that you realized it and stopped the crap before it went too far... I still respect ya, sherrie_sim, cause you're honest enough to admit when you screw up... That and I like the stuff you make and the way you don't talk down to the less than able when it comes to making cc... Pass the rum!


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: SoggyFox on 2007 June 18, 12:52:43
There has even been a case of a TSr artist ripping off a freesite creator - however it did get taken down really fast and it wasn't an FA or [I think] an SA.  They did look an awful lot alike in the images.

And blue is the new Nouk.  I think green is the new blue and white is the new green, with black being the new white.

I think red is still  red though.


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: Hecubus on 2007 June 18, 16:48:28
Actually, red is the new scarlet.

:::::runs::::::


Title: TSR FA steals from freesite [mistake]
Post by: HideTheRum on 2007 June 18, 19:47:05
If so, what happened to magenta?

*bats eyelashes*