PMBD

I was looking through the S2C thread 'why do people hate paysites?' and it got me thinking about if paysite creators would ever be accepted into the community if they went free...and I do dispise paysites with a passion, but some creators I would be pleased to have back...only some though

So...imagine that all the paysites have been destroyed and have gone free - would you accept them into the community? Who and why?

Someone I would really like back is Aikea Guinea.... she makes awesome stuff, and it would be great to have her back  8)

The other FA I'd love to have  free has already escaped and now is free...huzzah for the Mango! Also, out of TSR, possibly Jirka, Sunair, Emlazzz, Confide and Sims2Sisters..

Rose of RoseSims as well - even though she isn't part of the community, she is actually very nice and talented...unlike Peggy >.< Peggy has never made any attempt to be part of the community, and is, from what I heard, quite rude...I dont get why she has such a big fanbase...meh sheep

I'd accept anyone.  I really don't have anything against any particular paysite owner other than the whole running a paysite thing.

Seriously, if they all went free, I'd have no problem with them.

That being said, I don't think all would return to the community/continue creating. For example, Birgit and Sasilia and Marcela from Reflex Sims seem to be doing it only for the money, same as Peggy. I doubt they'd even continue creating for free. If they did, I'd have no problem with them, but I don't think they'd want to do it for free.

If Aikea_Guinea went free, that would probably make my week. I have no fear that she'd leave/stop creating, because it seems to me that Deception Pass is her passion and the creating for TSR is just a side project for her.

I would love to see Sunair leave TSR. I would be happy for everyone that went free. :)
*I just wandered in here to look at Jack*

Why not? It's not the paysite owners I have problems with, really (although some of them seem to have more than a little bit of attitude problems but that's not my headache since I never speak or interact with them in any way. And the same could be said about some free creators), it's their policies and twisted ideas of what a gaming community should be like that gets me.

Absolutely! I'd find ways to help them...suggest sites to host their creations, etc. I WANT sites like ATS and Caravan to be free! I'd welcome them with open arms.

I'd accept everyone except of Carla Niven!! Community doesn't need his crap even if they are free!!

Crap or not, I'd welcome them all.

I'd welcome them if they went free. I wouldn't necessarily download their stuff if it was crap, but I'd welcome them.

I'm pretty much the same, anyone and everyone. Well, except a few choice assholes who have managed to piss me off *personally* by the way they have treated me or others. Even so, I'd cut them a break and be civil for as long as they behaved.

I don't have anything against any paysite creator - even while they're still making pay content I am happy to interact with them.  Even one's closest and dearest friends sometimes make mistakes and you have to hope they see where they have gone wrong.

I have nothing against paysite owners, just paysites, which are illegal.

I don't have anything against any paysite owners...except maybe Peggy. I'd never download her crap even if it was free.  :lol:

Why wouldn't they be accepted back into the community? Just because they once ran a paysite doesn't mean they should be shunned.

Absolutely yes, and with cheers and thanks.

I have read that thread, and i have been on S2C a lot lately, mostly
in the contest-world. I have recently seen alot of paystuff the users have
got, the booty is well known all over the community now, and there
are some creators who are good. If they got free, i would'nt have any problem with them coming back to the community, but i doubt many of them would create anything for free, they're too greedy. so i don't think we've seen too many of them on S2C.

Heck yes, and very happy to have them back if that happened.

The few that would not come back probably are the one's that I would not care to have back because of their lack of being part of the community and only in it for the money.

Same here.

I'd accept everyone... but I would treat them like minions of minions for a while... and then remind them about the past every now and then.

I would... nothing. I mean, I only really interact in here and I would respond to anyone same as I respond to everyone currently within my limited sphere. I wouldn't react better or worse for their having had a paysite in the past, although I do believe I might respond less to people who have been proved total twats (like Atwa), as in not really reply to their posts. It's the best way for me to stay out of trouble.  :wink:

You know, once a pirate always a pirate. So I think it'd be hard for me to be kind and welcoming all of a sudden as far as the ex paysite owners. I am afraid I would keep pointing and laughing, at least for a long while. Ask them stuff like about their starving chillum, and such. I think this phorum has scarred me for life :lol:

It'd be one thing if they decided to go free of their own volition...

It's another thing entirely if they're going free simply because EA laid the smack down on them.  My guess is many if not most of these paysites are going to stay pay as long as they possibly can.  Why not milk it for all it's worth??

Well, can't remember the name of the guy, but there's an FA at TSR who does humongous lots;think he's from Texas. He's done alot of community lot condos, etc. I'd like to see him go free.........

I agree. At this point, action or fear of action from EA would be the only reason people like, peggy, tsr, or rose would go free. They wouldn't be doing out of kindness. They haven't so far. It's too little too late now. I wouldn't go out of my way to be nice to them nor would I go out of my way to be mean either. I don't think I'd do anything differently than I am now. Besides, I doubt any of them would come here to chat with us anyways. They haven't so far so it's unlikely that I'll ever have any interactions with them.

Well I'll have slightly more respect for those who chose to jump ship as opposed to those who EA makes walk the plank. But as long as they don't act like a pricks my opinions will remain completely my own.

There are lots of talented but misguided creators out there and I'd be more than happy to see them rejoin the community, because otherwise I'd miss their stuff. I think once you've admitted to your mistake that's it and I wouldn't keep on about it.

The Sims community is an odd duck. Most fans are young and not involved with the traditional gaming  community. They never knew paying (or charging)  for CC was not an acceptable practice.
So I welcome them all, and hope they learned something. If they did not learn anything, then to the plank with ye!

Yeah thats kinda what I meant...it depends how you define a 'community' but would they actually be a part of it? Yes we would all like them to be free, but being in the community is a different thing. (blah i cant describe it)  :roll:

and Amazone, how come you have 'bucaneer' under your username? You some kind of all-powerful mod?!  :shock:

I`d be civil an' welcomin', but they would be havin' t' prove they's self t' th' community t' really gain me respect. I really b'lieve in a community 'ere sea dogs an' land lubbers be welcome as long as they dasn't try t' leech off o' others.

I`d tell `em: Keep makin' amazin' booty, ya horn swogglin` scurvy dog!
Ya bilge rat whut deserves the black spot! And some such.

Funny thing is that can hardly be used as an excuse. I'm young (17, and starting simming at 12/13) and have never had any involvement with traditional gaming communities, yet I've always known paying/charging for CC was wrong, mainly though other communities I was part of before I really got into sims such as fanfiction. Paying/charging for fanfiction never even crossed my mind until I saw paysites for sims. I was disgusted by it since it's essentially the same thing.

Of course I could forgive them if they're under 15 years old and fairly new to the community, or started charging for content before they realised how unacceptable paysites are to most people.

I'd download their stuff if it was free but I would not welcome them. I don't like people who try to take advantage of me. There are plenty of places for free hosting and they are just trying to take advantage of  people who don't know about PMBD and  people who are scared to DL from here because they aren't clear on who is in the right.

I think they'd have to put up one hell of an apology to the rest of the community for being such assholes and improve some of the shit they try to pass off as "wonderful, amazing, fantastic". They'd also have to buy me off personally with a bunch of rum! Bacardi 151, when you come down to it! Or Barcardi Gold! Yes, I am fussy about my rum! I don't mix it, either... It's gotta be a straight double shot or I won't drink it...

Peggy is rude? When i subbed there a while ago she was always replying to my emails and when I asked if she did requests she said no but you can send your request in anyway and If I like it, I may do it and she did :D  But that may be because I subbed and she wants the money? And for the Paysite creator I would accept well, IcedMango is back so I accept her, and Sims2Sisters, confide, sunair, only the nice ones who reply to my pms or whatever defiantly not Chaz :lol:

I wouldn't shun them.  Honestly, I think it was just easy to give into temptation, and I almost did myself, way back when, thought about having my own site and doing a rotating thing - new lots for sale, then as new lots were created, put the older ones up for free.

But then, I realized that if I learned for free, shouldn't even charge for lots that were all my own work.

I probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference from a former paysite owner and anyone else, it would really all depend on how they come off to me at the time.  I've never actually not been able to acquire any piece of software or digital media free of charge for as long as I can remember and the few things I've downloaded from here were simply a faster means of acquiring some TS2 content than simply mentioning to the guy I let drive a small tow-hitched trailer full of DVD's out of my driveway every week.  If I could care less about such a thing I surly would.
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