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What in your opinion is your top 10 worst/awful/blindingly disgusting paysites

my top 10 for now would be

1: TSR
2: Pandora sims
3: Simslice

I'll think of more when I discovered some tacky ones

I still think CN is a joke.

sim accents?
and the site where there are Al's meshes... whats that i cant recall...

Glamsims and Carla Niven for sure!

SimChic & Peggy  :lol:

Their stuff always looks so ~*~shiny~*~, ingame though, it's just pure crap.

Can we list individuals?
I'd have to say SimsSecrets/Amel is up there. The poly counts on her items are horrendous. I wish someone would slap the taste out her mouth.  :evil:

SimSkins...

My top three would be:

1. TSR
2. Carla Niven
3. Exnem Sims (Their subscriber sims give you nightmares)

I would vote for Peggy. She's not even pretending to be part of the "community". 100% pure, calculated business. So much for being a citizen of a commie state...

1. sim feaks (hecubus you should do the calculations for the prices of their stuff, considering they dont do a monthly sub anymore, they went to this ridiculous "points" system" gets a bit expensive)
2. Vita sims (again for the nerve to charge "per set" donations)
3. TSR, simply because i fucking hate their policies and thomas....

i could continue, but you only said top 3...

Buntah.

Buntah.

SimTech2.

Buntah.

Sims2Studio.

Buntah.

Buntah.

SimSlice.

Buntah.

Buntah.

Pandora Sims 2 deserves a mention I think.  As far as I can tell, it contains mostly other people's free mods (yellow pee, censor blur remover, warlok skins, etc) with a scant few "original" mods, clothes and such to justify the pay.

1. TSR Never been a fan really
2. Charmed Sims (bunch of stuck up bitches there)
3. Sim Chic (I love your stuff but I refuse to pay for it)

Those are my top three currently..

My list:

1.  Any
2.  All
3.  Every

:-D

I'll most likely get my head bitten off for this.. but...

1-10.  Any website that has more than 1 pay item, because I KNOW just a single pay item can cover bandwidth costs.

Ren

My top 3 would be...

#1. Sim Freaks (For their shitty & expensive points system)
#2. Peggy's Sims
#3. Vita's Sims

I am also adding TSR for good measure :evil:

Simfreaks (for trying to bend me over)
TSR (for being Sucky)
Peggy (for giving me eye twitch)
 :lol:

1. SimFreraks (This was the first sims site I ever been on back in TS1 days and I was overjoyed at all of the clothes they had....until I realized that most if it were pay and I didn't have a clue on how to download them)
2. TSR (I was pissed when I saw that their stuff was pay back in TS1 days. It was around the time I had just found about downloads)

I thought Peggy started when TS2 came out. Wow, she's been ripping people off for a long time then.

No, I think I screwed that up. :oops:
I don't remember her being around for sims 1.
I just hate her site, it looks like Rainbow Brite puked on it. :lol:

Nope, Peggy started with sims1. She seems to have deleted her old site, though, so I cannot find it. I guess it was not profitable enough anymore.

Hah. I asked Peggy if she'd send me her Sims 1 stuff a while after that section closed down, and got a reply back saying that "in fact the Sims1 has been closed". And I got called "dear friend" a lot. Which was, um... nice. >_>

My "top" 3 would be TSR, SimChic and Exnem (although the latter mainly because Exnem and LyricLee piss me off, not necessarily due to any quality issues).

1) TSR
2) SimFreaks
3) Carla Niven
4) Peggy
5) SimChic
6) VitaSims  :roll:

Killer sims has to be the worst paysite from the sims1 days!

Meh, I personally never cared for WellDressed Sim after they went pay or Sim Freaks.

1. exnem...who the hell would pay good money for skins with pores? deep pores. pores so deep, you could have a clambake in them.  :shock:
2. peggy...for charging way too much money for giant gaps, horrible textures, and vomit-inducing colours.
3. xmsims...i know they're mostly free, but they do have a few sub-par donation items. there is most certainly such a thing as too much bumpmapping!  :evil:
4. vitasims...ARGH!
5. simchic...the textures look like shit in game no matter how high you have your graphics settings.

1. TSR
Not only is it mostly pay but;
- Bad bad website design - cluttered and not user friendly
- Ad Banners - flashing ad banners I should add
- Downloading  the actual site is like pulling teeth - it takes forever and that's on broadband connection

2. Reflex Sims
I detest any site that offers 'free recolours' then follows it up with "You'll have to donate if you want the meshes". Well damn, that's just false advertising.

I bought the game, not paying for CC.

Wall Sims

You get taken in at how much you get for one set, but once it is in your game, it looks kind of crap.

1) Peggy. Every time I went there I swear my testicles would shrink. Lighten up on the psycho-cute, ya greedy dollar-whore.

2) Simfreaks. I've only been there a couple of times but it just LOOKS seriously fucked up.

3) VitaSims. For wonderfully appealing unusable shit no one beats Vita Sims. (and yes, I have been suckered by them)

Pandoras.  

I donated for some of the realistic skintones when the sims 2 was new and all we had was fugly maxis barbie doll stuff.

I think the pandora skins were almost as bad.  Yes they had realistic body parts but they also had really ugly tattoos and their rainbow skins weren't all that great.  Bleah.

And of course, TSR.  Now they have so much crap I can't believe that they manage to keep all of it in their vaults.  Some is good like the victorian furniture from Cashcroft but most of the stuff is..."wow...wtf is that????"

And where would we be wihtout Peggy ;)  I really don't know which one to list first.  They're all pretty bad.

Pandora, by far. Not only are the 'original' things horrid and ugly, but he doesn't even bother to make most of his own content. And wasn't it Numenor who wrote him telling him to remove his free content from a pay site, and the owner had the gall to write him back and say that according to the EULA, he had every right to post it and sell it? In that case, that little ass gets exactly what he deserves by having his own shitty work taken by pirates.

It still makes me mad.

And second, any site that takes outside 3D meshes and converts them to sell without doing anything to reduce the poly count. Of course, none of those sites warn potential donators that their 'products' will slow down their games and that even the smallest decorative objects sometimes have many times the amount of vertices of a maxis object. That would be bad for buisness!

This almost pisses me off enough to join Pandora just to add whatever is not already in the booty.

Any altruistic pirates out there?

Pandora stole from Numenor?

Okay, this revises my site list

TSR
Pandora
SimFreaks

My vote goes to VitaSims.  Her stuff looks good except for a few stretched textures, but many of them have strange animations.  She doesn't edit the OBJf segments so, for example, a buffet won't act like a table.  And often times the footprint is all screwed up so parts of objects disappear into the wall.  Her beds are notorious for this  And lastly, most of her bed animations suck!  and for all this, she charges from 3,50 to 5,00 uro.  What nerve.  Some of her "creations" I wouldn't offer for free.

TSR (been a SA there - don't shoot me Lol - but quit proudly)
Peggy for her crappy hairmeshes, well.. bodymeshes too.. I once tried recoloring a nude body mesh with heels (mesh 0040), and it had a weird triangle between breasts.. agh!
Simchic - all free stuff is crap and I HATE  their as seen on/celebrity stuff... they often take a photo and stick it on just any mesh, it doesn't match! at all! Plus I hate when ppl photoskin with half of the photo, mirror it and then stick it on.. it can work nicely with corsets or underwear, but really, it DOESN'T look good with shadows or folds! You just can't do this with everything! (like Confide @TSR, she's totally abusing this too)
I did this once, with my shiny corset set, but I saw it was a mistake.  :oops: Since then, it hurts my eyes when I see too much of it!

And from Our Great Leader, J. M. Pescado. They have a lot of his mods and hacks at their site, and are selling them with most of the RTFM files left mostly intact' no real attempt to disguise the files' provenance has been made.

It's obviously an attempt to annoy Pes and freesite supporters, and if Pes actually gave a crap, I'd suggest we report them to EA directly.

I think Peggy should be part of the top ten.

Her stuff is quite cute...but not in game. Her hair meshes have HUGE gaps and almost never fit on normal sims. =P
I would be mad if I paid for her stuff.

Oh and she clearly never saw a redhead.

What, no Ralph-flex Sims haters??

Other sites that suck, or whose owners are the suckage, or who are charging only because they can get away with it - but are somewhat under the radar:
Eclectic Sims
Loving Touch Designs
M&M Needful Things
Savage Sims
Simgrrl
Sim Snobs
Sims Connection
Simultaneous Design
Studio B43
Victorian Sims 2

1. Carla Niven (GET A BETTER SITE DESIGNER! And wth!?! I can buy 10 gallons of rum with the amount I can use to pay for everything on that site!)
2. PeggySims2 (Too many images. No wonder she needs that much cash for bandwidth)
3. TheSimsResource (I'm not a creator, though I would love to be, but I'm dedicating my time to another game and I've got school, but so many people have been victims of the corrupt policies of Thomas and they're so desperate to keep pay that they're promoting all the crap artists to the FA status, like atwa, how can I NOT HATE TSR? Actually, I hate the country where I genetically came from, cause its a commie state. How do I cause more bandwidth usage for TSR anyway, free of foul play?)

Hum, since TS1 days you say?

WDS
Sim Freaks
8DS
TSR
Peggy
Wood For Sims
Simslice
Killersims
SimSkins

All paysites, of course.

#1 TSR
#2 Carla Niven (it must be a joke)
#3Peggy

1. TSR - being forced to scroll through a multitude of atwa, sunair (*gag*) and tabbylou "creations" to get to content that's actually worth downloading annoys me to no end.
2. peggy - no explanation really necessary. most of what i've payed for i've removed from my game.
3. reflex photoshop trickery. nothing EVER looks in game the way it does on their site. EVER. new 'highlight' set sofa looks exquisite on the site and looks like pure shyte in my game. huge gaps between the wood trim and upholstery. i never learn my lesson with this site. well at least i didn't pay for it this time...
4. carla niven - i've never downloaded anything from there, but after seeing that meat slab dress... there are just no words.

slickchick, necromancy is bad, m'kay?  More cat macros to follow.

Tim

ETA: And she was off to such a good start.  :sigh:

Yeah seriously, slickchick, you've got to stop (sigh).

How about those frogs from the movie "Frogs" vs. Jaws from, uh, "Jaws"? (Forget it, Jaws is totally going to win). How about Pooki's suggestion of Godzilla vs. Mothra? Mothra vs. Rodan?

Mothra FTW.

I don't know, Mothra has more hands than Rodan does, and she could cause major destruction as a larva, on the other hand she was also controlled by those two ladies wasn't she (according to the Mothra page I'm looking at).

Plus, Rodan has that fancy beak.

Pescado seriously needs to give Hecubus or someone power to lock threads.   This has been an above average Sunday for dumb-asses.  :roll:

necromancy is bad, but folk are instructed to search for existing threads, rather than post new ones. i'm not a dumbass. just a tad confused by the forum etiquette expectations of the board. so is it safe to assume that newbies are altogether banned from discussing topics that established members have already discussed?

forgive my excitement and overzealousness of wanting to be an active member and wanting to add my $0.02 to posts i find interesting. i guess i need to lurk more - post less. apologies... again.

It's only okay to raise the dead if you have something new and interesting and relevant to say or add to the conversation. In this case, that was not so. While newbies are not forbidden from discussing things that have already been discussed, if you are accused of commiting necromancy it is generally because what you (general you here) had written did not add anything different or important to what had already been said before. If you notice that a thread was last posted in more than a month ago give it some real thought before you decide to post in it (e.g. "Is what I'm about to say needed or necessary?"), and generally try to stick to the current topics of conversation if you aren't sure.

My hatelist is as follows.

1)Carla Niven Her shit is SOOOOO Ugly.
2)Peggy Her stuff is also ugly.
3)TSR I wonder why lol

ps. is amel the same person who contributes to www.simsconnection.com and I why does everyone hate simslice. I know its a rip off but at leat they have ok. stuff, unlike some other site

I've never downloaded from Carla Niven, anything. Only reason I donated to Peggy once, was when I had Sims 1 I never downloaded any CC even from the website. So when I had a look at the Sims 2 websites, I saw a hair I really liked that wasn't in the game. I thought what the heck. Anyway, I had downloaded one of her hairs off the exchange. When I went to her site, I thought I had gotten it illegally because it was in the pay section, so I went and paid her for a month so I could have that hair. Then I found out the hair went through her back like a sword or through her chest when she turned her head. I found TSR from the exchange also at the same time, so I did a six month subscription to them. Which only lasted a couple weeks and I was ready to say I don't need any CC then I found MTS2. I'm being serious, too. I downloaded clothes the insides of the legs came out when they sat down. Some wings that looked just plain retarded. Some hair that looked like someone cut it out of a magazine so it looked pasted on the Sim's head. All smudged and blurry. I deleted it all, including my download folder and said screw this. But I do still use Simslices rejuvinator in all my houses. I think I have their star trek uniforms also. So guess it wasn't all bad when I first discovered CC. ;)

You know, I agree. It's really confusing and I've been here nearly a year. Obviously, it's stupid to drag up a months old thread to say "I agree", but it might not be stupid IF there was something relevant to say. Everyone seems quite eager to bitch at someone for necromancy regardless of the content of the post.

Then if someone starts a new post, they get bitched at too. Again I'm not talking about the dumb "hi, I'm a noob where R Peggy hairZ"  but a comment that might have some merit.

Hmm...does the phorum need a reminder of the chat with Ol' Mama Hecubus?

http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/viewtopic.php?t=1032&start=0

Question:

Was WDS the first site to go pay?  :shock: Trying to remember.........I just know I loved them and then went to DL one day and the add-on pieces I needed for a set were pay all of a sudden.  :evil: So for me, it's WDS. Did they go pay before SimFreaks?

Requip...everytime I see your username I think about medications. You do know there's some kind of medicine named Requip, right?

And I *think* you're right. BUT I could be wrong. I seem to remember WDS bieng the first as well, but someone may know different.

Someone somewhere wrote the history (my search skills and memory fail me right now)....I am not entirely sure who was first, but the first batch was WFS, WDS, SimFreaks, TSR, and 8DS. A few others followed....but there wasn't the proliferation there is now.

Yea, the "restless leg syndrome" medication. When I was trying to think up a name, that stupid commercial was playing so..........there ya go.
Nice to know you think of drugs when you see my name, Ry (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b218/Requip/Emotes/smiley_abzv.gif)
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b218/Requip/Emotes/icon_rofl.gif)

I'm pretty sure that WDS WAS the first paysite. No wonder I hate 'em. (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b218/Requip/Emotes/arg.gif)

Requip, other people would say they think about drugs when they see me..lmao...so I think we may be two peas in a fucked up pod.

Requip, I'm pretty sure SimFreaks and TSR went pay before WDS although all three went pay within weeks of each other (spouting bullshit reasons about server costs - of course, these days we know that running costs aren't the real reason :wink: . Anyway, the first ever paysite was Mall Of The Sims.

Assuming that this thread is still running:

1) WDS for average skins in TS1 and poor clothing in TS2 at ridiculous prices.
2) TSR for being both pay and managing to have bugger all quality control on  submissions. More often than not, I have to trawl through pages and pages of crap to find something that looks half-decent on the site, but still manages to look crap in-game.
3) Pandora 2, just for the sheer hypocrisy of the owner.
4) Sim Freaks - Crap site layout, and incredibly difficult to tell which items are free and which are pay.
5) Buntah - Even the previews look turgid.

Here you go.  Just clear your calendar for the next light-year and all your questions will be answered. :lol:

http://www.simchaotics.com/

Sometimes, I secretly wait for Necromancy, just because some of the older threads are more interesting, than some of the threads we have going on right now. Just like I know some secretly lie in wait for a chance to bring out new and interesting cat macros. Then again...some people like communicating with the dead. Far be it from me to judge them.  Seriously, I wouldn't consider it a dead thread, as long as someone has something interesting to add. Sometimes Necormancy is interesting. OK. I admit it. I also like looking at all the cat marco's.  :twisted:

I agree that we can jump on the Necromancy thing a bit quick.  It's just a shock to those of us who have been around awhile.  I, for one, will be more tolerating.  After all, we do have a lot of new members.

Certain subjects just suck, though, like the Delphy crap and Lyric Lee.   :roll:

Sometimes a conversation has run its course. The problem with bringing an old thread back is that you're taking a gamble that people who haven't thought about it in weeks will suddenly want to talk about it again. Anyone considering raising the dead would be well served to read all the current threads and see how the general tone of things is. There are several talkative newcomers recently who might be happy to contribute, but the weekend seemed to be one harassment after the other. In this case it was probably a case of bad timing with many of the regulars quite tetchy before it happened.

i know i promised to "lurk more - post less," but i couldn't resist...

calling me a "dumb ass" is your idea of tolerance?

to be honest i failed to look at the date of the thread/last post. i wouldn't have revived it otherwise, considering how much i'd already been scolded. the thread was near the top of the forum, so i mistakenly assumed it was active. the active threads at the time (delphy and lyric lee) were of no interest to me, because i don't know anything about either of them and i tend to shy away from gossip. i opt for threads related to sites and/or crappy downloads in oppose to those involving gossip about people i don't know.

i do find it interesting that reviving old threads is tantamount to death at the stake, but flaming, degrading and being unnecessarily mean to new members (that mean no harm) is totally acceptable.

i guess i'm too chatty and sensitive for u guys. i'm approaching this forum like a knitting circle instead of a pirate's ship. :oops:

Keep in mind that keirra said "will be", which means in the future she will be more accommodating (she was admitting to being perhaps a bit too quick to jump on people). Keirra already admitted to being wrong, don't push her any further :lol: .

(Sorry, I couldn't resist either)

This place can be tough on the new, sensitive, and uncareful. It's also an attitude and culture that we expect people to have understood and be prepared for when they post (which is why we always tell people to LURK MOAR).

Slickchick, you'll get the hang of it.   Since several really old threads were resurrected at about the same time, and we were getting some really stupid trolls, you kind of got in the middle of that.  

I lurked for a very long time before posting.  There are times we all will disagree with one another.  The freedom that you have on this forum enables you to speak your mind.  Sometimes, we are a little quick to jump, but I can assure you Keirra is really not a mean person, she just doesn't put up with bullshit.  She did admit that she may have been too quick to post, so let's all move on.  You'll get used to us here and the way things are done.   Most of us are pretty blunt and don't pretty it up too much.  So, welcome and if you have a question or are not sure about something, you are always welcome to pm me and I'll be glad to help you.

To be fair, nobody said you were a "hopeless" dumb ass.  

That just might be as good as it gets. After all, we do have our dastardly reputations to consider. :wink:

Snarky.....are you stalking me again you big hunk?  I know, you just can't help yourself.   :lol:

I think the first and worst sims 1 paysite I ever came accross was mall of the sims. I'm shocked to see it still exists.

 http://www.mallofthesims.com/

of course for sims 2 paysites, TSR still wears the suckyness of all sucky crown.

slickchick, what armywife and mando said.  If you check the the post times, I said dumb asses before I said I will be more tolerable.

If your too sensitive (your words) than you won't be happy here.  Just live and learn and have some rum.  :wink:

That fucking site kept charging me after I canceled and I was never able to DL anything! When I got in touch with my credit card company, the girl on the phone told me they got several complaints about that site. I can't remember how exactly I got them to stop charging me, but I did end up with a new CC account number and I do believe the company flagged them as a scam or something like that. Wish I could remember the exact details, but alas. *shrugs* That site and TSR are the reasons I do not sub to any place anymore. I will give a donation to help a FREE site though.

All this times you guys were hissing about someone named Buntah. And I was scratching my head going.. now where have I heard that name before??
So I googled it and found this:
http://personal-computer-tutor.com/sims2/

Is this Linda person Buntah? If that's the case, she's a untalented thief! Her stuff is hideous! $13 bucks? Is she mad? I remember that site! I had buried it in the deep recess of my mind and now it's back... urgh

I don't like paysites that offer crap downloads because obviously I've of the mind that if I paid for something it better be perfectly configured and supported. 4Ever Sim Fantasy is still offering old Kitchens that have not been updated for seasons and they have even said that "may not be compatible with later Sims Ep's". Then why charge for them? Bastards!

I don't like Sim Connection... their stuff is an eyesore.

Yes.  Imagine the pure evil of Buntah and Atwa eh?  Combined together in one mega clusterfuck site - that should keep you up at nights.

Well, you know the old expression; When Satan can't be there in person he sends a couple of old greedy untalented twats from TSR.

That is so fucking funny - we missed you Snarky.  :lol:

MOAR SNARKY!

Yer in fine form tonight, sir.   :lol:

 :shock:

I'm awake... I'm very awake...
I tried to think what they would make with their powers combined and I found this
http://www.sippicancottagefurniture.com/ugly45.jpg
And then I thought...
I want to do THIS
http://www.sippicancottagefurniture.com/ugly45.jpg

Ah... looking at the burning makes me a happy pirate says I  :twisted:

HAHA I love those muscle t-shirts on there for men.
Leopard=zzzzzzexxyyy



Don't forget the wonderful Peggy Blinkiness! How amazing would that be?


(Edited to avoid posting 2 times)

Well on the bright side we will never again have a shortage in the ugly paysite finds thread.

Is anybody else worried that it says "Free Downloads and Tutorials by Buntah?" Shouldn't tutorials be written by people with some level of skill? No wonder there are so many shitty downloads...

Buntah's disqualified from that thread, since EVERYTHING is so ugly.

Aww, no fair.
No really, you are right I mean look at those tank tops, who would wear that?
Course that's the free stuff, but still I did not see one think I would even think of putting in my game.

Buntah's Site ( I know it's disqualified, but it sucks shit)
TSR
Exnem Sims
GlamSim
PeggySims
RoseSims
Carla Niven
Liana Sims (One of her meshes had a 'sploding fat state)
Pandora Sims
Sims Connection (Hairs aren't binned!)

I've had a bad day- I wore my pants backward and my fly was open at the back.  :x

"Those who can't do, teach."

Since I teach, I have always hated that quote.

My father, who was the financial guru for several colleges, added:

"Those who can't teach, administrate."


(And yeah, Tomato...the best teachers ARE those who can do...generally. I'm a crappy softball player, but I'm an excellent batting coach...)

My mother, the college professor, would agree.  :lol: