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Today I was walking with a friend of mine--a gamer, no less--and mentioning something about paysites.  He goes "Wait.  What?  There are sites that charge for game content?  That's just stupid!  Can they do that?"

And it amused me.

If you have any similar stories, do share.

Actually I do. I have a friend who works for Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/) (And gets paid well enough to live in the Bay Area. Bastard.), and he was one of the people who maintained the Sims 2 page. They had added a few mods and hacks, as was pretty usual with games, with links back to the site and creators. For the first time ever, since he has worked there, he got angry emails from the creators yelling that he had stolen their content and violated their rights. Ordinarily, modders are thrilled to get a mention on Gamespot.

Agast, the next time I was visiting he asked me whether everyone in the sims community was insane. I said that yes, for the most part, they are. I explained the paysite thing, and he was shocked and appalled. In no other game community, regardless of time, effort and artistic ability, do custom modders charge for content. The idea was insanely ludicris to him.

So yeah, basically, everyone else in the gaming world thinks we are a bunch of nutters.

The sims community is a bunch of nutters, yes. I'm more from the REST of the gaming world, so naturally I see these sim-behaviors as the behavior of nutters and vomit bile in their eyes as a result. Thus this site.

I just wonder if the rest of the Sims community realizes everyone else thinks we're nutters.  Just for the paysite thing, I mean, not mentioning the spending hours playing "Barbies," as my husband calls it.

They don't realise it anymore than fan girls/boys realise how weird they are, and if they do realise it, then chances are they embrace it and make it a point to be nutters.

It's more of a god thing to me--and to my dad and brother, who played TS1 when I still played it.  If it weren't for my dad I wouldn't have known a damn thing about custom content.

Your dad too, huh?  I started playing Sims 1 after my dad got a bootleg copy and was showing me his house of black people that he made fight each other.  A terrible racist my dad may be, but I was hooked on The Sims after that.  xD

Hmm... stories... like... gossip?

Well, the Sims 2 community has its share of... special people, right? Some faking their death, some who are into child porn, others who spread personal information about certain people, ...! :lol: We have created a helluva nice society.

I find myself spending more time on board, downloading, organizing my downloads and bining hair color than actually playing. :lol: I guess that's the same for pretty much everyone here, right?

I meant more stories about non-simmers finding out some simmers charge money for game content, but I'm always for gossip.   :D

And, yeah, I totally spend more time downloading and organizing than actually playing.  Since finding this site that's all I've done, in fact.  xD

My boyfriend is really into MMOs and the like. He thinks the entire Sims thing is a waste of time and "not a real game." Even lower in regards to the community, though he's been entertained by the contents of this site and the whole situation.

My mother accused me of having a God complex. I only wonder why it took her so long to figure that out.

My girlfriend was shocked about the whole Sims Community. She's also a Sims2 fan in some ways, but not that much I think.

She thinks I'm fucking crazy, because I pay for some "donation" sets, and I have to say, she's right.

I stopped telling people I play the game along time ago, even though techinically I don't really spend much time playing it anymore anyway.  It's far to complicated of a process to try to explain what the game is about and why I like to play it, I think unless you have given it a try, you wouldn't understand.  I certainly thought it was stupid when my boyfriend bought TS1, until I played it out of bordum and then had become hooked.

I did however try to explain this whole custom content copyright crap at one point to my Uncle, who is an attorney, back when the SFV first opened and we had all these "threats" of creators "suing" us.  He was pretty much baffled at the thought of adults fighting over computer files.

Edit: computer files probably the wrong term, files for a computer game is more what I meant.

The "rest of the gaming community" is made up of mostly computer savy, Internet savy young people. The Sims phenom attracted mainstream sheeple. There goes the neighborhood.

I spend more time downloading and on a couple forums than actually playing.
To be honest, I actually have a hard time playing without falling asleep.
It's weird.
I've never really talk to anyone I know about sims.
I haven't discussed it with anyone beyond explaining what it is.
I don't really care to.

Well now you've gone and concisely summed up the whole problem.

I do fall asleep if I play too much. Oh... and when playing University as well. Damn, that's boring.

Whenever I talk about Sims with a friend, they keep calling us Sims Freaks. It's funny. People I talk to believe prices on paysites are very high... then again, we complain about everything being expensive in life. :D

I have not fired up my game in 2 weeks. Why wait for Sims to do something entertaining, when the online Sims community offers instant gratification?

Like totally, word. Note how the geeky Sims stuff like hacks, what need a bit of computer savvy, are all free. That's because regular gamers have some decency.

When I started playing Sims, the first thing that shocked me was precicely a discovery of paysites...although no, that be second, first was "Why in hell this game is so tragically dull and so addictive at the same time?" Anyway. "Baldur's Gate 2" has a couple of huuuuuge mods, and these are bloody worlds, new weapons, storylines, characters and whatnot. All, naturally, free. And there you have losers charging for a coupla rags and a wig. :roll:

All other computer games offer an escape from reality in big doses. The Sims gives you a choice of escape from reality or simulating it too closely for comfort. Some gray, in between mixture seems to be most popular. The addictivness  was inevitable.

ps, thanks for reminding me how to spell "savvy"! Getting old is not for wimps.

You know what? I think that, e.g. using the crapper without pulling your pants down first is quite a serious escape from reality. Almost as serious as nuking the Aztecs or going at someone with a BFG, albeit not as deadly as those if you tried it in real life.

If you consider that The Sims and TS2 is the biggest selling game of all time then maybe you could offset the sheeple percentage wise?

So the solution is to kick the normies out of the fandom? Here here!

Anyone who doesn't know what a critical hit is, has never played a RTS game, or who watches "Desperate Housewives" for the thrilling subplots should leave immediately!

Agreed! I'm sure Pescado will be happy to lead the Inquisition and Gamer Cleansing.

No one expects the Gamer Inquisition!

...Sorry, I had too...

Fetch the force feedback joystick!

Oh no, not the force feedback joystick!!

heheh

Throw them in the pool! Take out the ladder!

Ladders are for wimps.

Yes, but watching them swim for hours and then get carried off by death would satisfy my morbid side.

As an alternative, we could place them indoors with a fireworks set and no means of leaving (a classic from TS1).

Murder in TS1 did seem simpler. Ah, how I yearn for the good old days.

Funny you mention this. I have been trying to make a ghost for a haunted house and THEY.WILL.NOT.DIE!

I can't kill the bloody things. I wanted a fire to take them out and for an entire sim week, I couldn't get anything to catch on fire.

Take away the door. Leave the phone so they can keep ordering pizza that will never reach them.

I don't want to necessarily torture them. I just want them dead.

But nooooo. I can't buuuuurn them to death. I ended up having to drown them.

I like making drowned ghosts for my untidy Sims. Those faces they do when I order them to clean puddles over and over...mhuhuhu. 8)


Off tangent, when I first started to play The Sims 2, I crammed the house with tons of people and kept them busy doing something all day, because if you ever played Warcraft, the bone idle character is a blasphemy. It becomes a reflex - you see bastard leaning on its shovel, you send him goldmining or wood-chopping right away. Only much later I learned about that people act out soap operas and give them little buggers personalities and sexual orientations even...I dunno, when I want, e.g.,  my romance sim to get their '30 screws' wish, they go and score with anyone they can catch, regardless of gender. :P

I remember telling a friend of mine about custom content and how some poeple charge for it, when TS2 came out. He still doesn't get it.

I also find people laugh at you even if you give the slightest hint you may be a Sims player. I like playing the games, it lets think about other things then my life (which is very hectic at the moment). But I would never ever concidered myself in the same league as some of those rabid fans who seem to not have a life...you know, those youngins with their crazy text speech *facepalm*

Want to kill your sims? Boolprop testingcheatsenabled true -> Spawn -> Death Creator (or something like that) will allow you to instantly kill off your sim in all ways possible. Afterwards just turn it off by doing the same cheat but with false instead of true.

Or, just get a hack object!

Saw my first go sim last night...damn was it ugly!

One easy way to kill your sims with fire is to make them cook something, then cancel that action once they've put a pot on the stove. The food will burn first, then the stove will catch fire. You have to keep your sim near the stove and surround them with other objects so they can't escape. (Use the moveObjects and boolProp snapObjectsToGrid cheats.) Place rugs underneath them too, those are highly flammable.

People are horrified when I tell them I kill sims. They think there's something wrong with me. :roll:

Yep, the old TV dinner is a classic for starting fires. The trick is for the queued action to be close to the stove.

The Calvin Factor was the only reason I started play The Sims 1.  I was dissappointed to see that the social worker would eventually just step through the wall to save the trapped baby though.  :(