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Was shown this by a friend and I swear this is nouk's hair...now I don't think this is you Nouk uploading this......and this is wrong!  grrrr.......

http://www.simsfilevault.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=2708


ETA screenshot
(http://i1.tinypic.com/4yyqqnl.jpg)

Even more so, they only joined today to post that hair!!

Nouk is Nouk on SFV. I saw that thread and also saw Nouk viewing that forum. If Hatedork had posted that hair in the Unavailable/Hidden or Wishlist areas I wouldn't have thought they'd stolen it. But they uploaded it in the Local Talent area where people upload things they created. Since it's obvious to us that Nouk created this (See the first post of the "Look at what I made and worship me! (Post Your Creations)" (http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/viewtopic.php?t=745&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=) thread), not Hatedork, I'd say they shouldn't have uploaded it where they did or the way they did.

That is VERY strange. I didn't think Nouk had even released that hair yet....?

Yeah, what a dumbass. The mods over there'll straighten it out soon enough, I'm sure.

I thought that was Nouk's hair. It's sad that some dumb ass had to steal that hair.

could it be she gave it to some friends and they had a falling out or something?  or her friends perhaps shared it?

I don't know but this sucks!

I've notified SIH. She may look into it. I hope that nouk gave permission but if she did why didn't the person credit her?

ETA: She pm'd me back asking for the link so she's looking into it right now :)

Looks like it could be another job for the AA at Insim.

Does anybody have the other pic? She wants to see another picture of it.

SHHHH!!! This is fun. I'll wait a few days and then kick their ass... don't worry. Indeed I saw, because someone allready pointed it out...

*nods* I'll tell SIH this but she'll probably take it down anyway because Stealin' is bad kids, mkay?

LOL Nouk, You should let the AA have a little fun with this one.  LOL  After all, it'll be something for them to do.  What is more funny is that the AA would probably scare the shit out of that little thief! LMAO

Weird thing is, I only gave it to 4 people, and they are my friends. Well maybe one of them aint that much of a good friend.
And hell yeah, I'll include them in the fun. Some of em are brilliant with legal threats 'n all.

I downloaded the hair, it's not altered at all. There's Nouk in the meshname, there's Nouk in the Bodyshop mouse-over, there's Nouk in the recolor names... it's so obvious this person hasn't made it, it's hilarious. I wanna see this one out, see how this person gets torrured :D

Good, it has been reported at the AA Headquarters.

Hmm but if this kid frequents SFv they might come here as well. They'll know about the imminent torturing...

If they are so stupid as to steal your work, claim it and NOT even change the remarks or mesh names from NOUK; then I'm sure they are oblivious of this site.  LOL

Or they do know and don't care.

Is there no honor among thieves?  I love Pirate Booty, but I loathe thievery.  

I'm new to the site, and in love with the booty.  Paysites piss me off.

I suppose this is my hello.  I owned an unrelated board a while back, and lurkers made me cringe.  So, I wanted to stick my head in and announce myself a friendly pirate.

if this person frequented the boards here they would have seen that you posted pictures of it....

Or it's someone testing the waters to see how we would react....hmmm...

Well that sucks. Pretty stupid, that's for sure.

It's possible one or more of the people you gave it to gave it to some of their "friends". I can't imagine how they thought they'd get away with it. Could it be a joke?

I noticed it too just now, but I wasn't too sure about it. It was Maz looking over my shoulder that said "Hey, that's Nouk's hair, and I don't think Nouk would be calling herself that!"

I was more like "Naw... Nobody would be THAT stupid... and to post it on SFV? Must be some freakish... Uhm... Something!"

And then I saw this thread.

How... STUPID can one person be?  :shock:

Someone's gonna get raped...

I'm wondering why Alcoholics Anonymous would even care about something like this.  :lol:

Seriously, though, could someone kindly spell out what AA means in this context? I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

The Animal Army over on insim

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f323/Capucine_II/Stuff/PXRN54ECGTNXH23WSIVMMDXBZJ6QLWXH.jpg)

^LOL

Hey, Noukie?  The AA is waiting to hear from you HERE (http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=47003)

Drop in and give them a go-ahead.  I'm sure they would love to give this little thief the whatfor.

With my trusty chainsaw

I kneeeeew it was a Nouk hair!! Yupyup. *feels awesome for once*
And yay, I can be of AA use! *Slashing Cougar to the rescue*

If they couldn't be bothered to actually claim credit, what with leaving "Nouk" still in the name, with the only claim being an implied misposting, maybe they're just putting it there so the peasantry can have it early. Who cares?

Yeah, they didn't really steal it, they posted it early. Someone still needs to get slapped for uploading early and/or sharing without permission.

Wait, what does PMND do again?  :lol:

I think that it's not the stealing - it's the unnecessary aggravation to someone who shares for free.  I don't snatch gifts out of my loved one's hands early - when they walk in the room - I wait for them to actually give it to me.

Even though I could download it from SFV, I won't, because Nouk will give when she's ready (barring of course if she begs me to save her bandwidth).

That is not cool.
Pirates may steal and plunder, but they don't steal and plunder Nouk's emo hair
Gah *drinks rum*

Ok I looked at that thread for AA over on Insim and what ManagerJosh said irks me!  I know that it wasn't the place to say something but I had to because what he said was completely out of line!  I really wanted to go off on his ass, but that thread is to help Nouk not start a war....also isn't he the one with the really stupidass paysite?  that you can't even see what you're getting before you pay?

Manager Josh



http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?p=736586#post736586

Yap, that's one guy with an ego so thick, that even though no one from anywhere likes him, he still posts as if people cared.  I bet if you punch his face in, it would bounce back like Luffy.

ManagerJosh is a jerk and a troublemaker. I fail to see why he gets involved, unless he can later complain to them if someone steals his payshit.

Urfgh  :twisted:  He is an arse. An arrogant arse, which is even worse.
And seems to think his site isnt a paysite....erm duh you are selling content

Not to mention that if the AA keeps encouraging people to say *meh* - they're not going to get any more complaints and will be redundant.  dominique did the same thing to Line about the hotlinking issue.

What do you mean? We arent being too..aggressive...about it? That can be improved  :wink:

No  :lol: most people are being perfectly aggressive.  But I referred Line to the AA about the hotlinking problem (from My Sim Site) and told him that they would help him if possible.  

Now, after patting herself on the back about how famous they were, she basically told him *meh* -  dominique that is. I certainly won't be referring anyone else there - she wasn't very kind about it all.

Dominque is usually very good with the AA stuff...and with being a pirate (is a member here).. maybe she was having a non awesome moment?

The AA have been very busy with something in the private section, so stuff in the HQ have been overlooked...I will just go and have a look through those threads and sort things out.

Sorry you feel that we failed you  :cry:

Don't  :cry: .  It wasn't overlooked.  I went and posted when they put Line off (as they were hotlinking everyone they could - including me) and something we did (not AA) put them off.  Everyone after that was just fine - but this is *two* non-awesome moments dominique has had - and if it keeps happening, people won't come to the AA again.

Isn't he the jerk who stole other people's stuff, put it on his site as his own to sell and then claimed it was accidental, yet refused to take it down and then turned around and claimed people stole his work?

Bigtruckgirl: Yes, thats the jerk *nods*

What an asshole.

And the same people involved in the latest round of legal threats.

what legal threats Pescado, the ones going on over at InSim?

Nope, they got posted here...somewhere. Just search 'WorldSims' and they should pop up...its about him taking some guy to court, and losing, so turning his site into a paysite...  :roll: Figures.

eta: Its here, posted by Calalily (http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/viewtopic.php?t=704&start=15)

That's right. Suing over $40.00. I remember that...

What a dumb ass! LOL

So did anyone figure out who it was that posted the hair early yet? :\  

I guess normally you would ask a mod for their IP address and try to compare it to others that are already listed, but I don't know if the cats at SFV would do that, since they're all about personal privacy and whatnot.

I had to laugh at Pescado's response on the Insim thread about bandwidth.  You're a harsh man, but it really made my morning.  LOL

Wish he had put in a 2 center on the Nouk thread too.

What did I miss? Did Nouk kick ass already? Damn it. Stupid Neopets. You'll never lure me away from this site again... T.T

She's a pirate? I never would have guessed considering the comments she made over in that Insim thread.  :shock: Those were definitely non-awesome comments and coupled with ManagerJosh's comments made me wonder why I joined the AA in the first place.

She was talking about someone specific who steals pay and free content. No details please, it's not worth it.

You should have read back further chinchillagrl. I was referring to her being rude to someone who came to them for help, and driving him away.

I'm very sorry that you feel one person in the AA is enough to keep us from helping others out.

It is not the AA's policy to ignore people who need and want help.  I try my best to address each issue as it comes up to assist the individual who needs it.  

You may always PM directly if you feel that dominique is being off-putting.  

When asking the AA for help we need enough information to assess the situation, links of both the offender and the victim's sites, and if possible a way to contact the victim.

The problem is though, that while I might tell you guys, there are many more who won't.  Line did it through pm, and was invited to post information, and then it happened, so pming directly makes no difference.  As for one person making a difference - in this case it did stop him seeking help from you, so yes, one person is effective.

All of the rest of the AA were nice about it - but I don't feel right referring people who are upset about their site to someone who's possibly going to shoot them down first chance they get.

Nouk...is it possible that one of the four people you sent the file to shared it, but didn't post on SFV?  It's fucking stupid to steal that blatantly when the suspect pool is so small.  But if one of your friends passed the mesh and recolors along to a friend or sibling, more like in the "Check out what Nouk did!" way rather than the THIEVING H0R way, that could be your culprit.  It wouldn't be great either, but at least then one of your friends wouldn't be a backstabbing asshole.

ETA: Just read the AA thread.  Huh, I was right.

That's right. I don't mind people sharing, but just uploading it is not cool.

It's one thing to share an item, it's another to hijack an item and take credit.  Not that it wasn't totally obvious once the file was unzipped.  *snort*

What did I miss? *scratches head*

I was referring to a special pirate. Not all of you, no worries. there is just someone who plagiarizes like shit.



Oh that one. Well, basically hotlinking is something I deal with everyday. What can I do? Put up an htaccess file. That's about it.  :roll:  Also, there was no sight of MJosh.

Wasn't intending to be rude there. Gosh.  :? It's not like she went away. If you'd read on, I did apologize in my next post (I did, right?) and then there were like another 3 pages of discussion. In which she managed to solve the problem.  :roll:

Oh yeah you're talking about me btw.

Gosh how I love senseless attacks at 8am in the morning. Good to know AA members stand together.


BTW also try to talk to me the next time on the AA and don't go crying over here. I hate it when people, instead of confronting me, go whine elsewhere.

You did drive Line away - that's why I came and posted the information - why would I get involved if I hadn't heard about it?

And if you weren't intending to be rude, then why the hell did you apologise?  

And the problem was solved - not by the AA.



I didn't "go whine" elsewhere - I've said you were a complete asshat about it, and won't be referring anyone else there.

Not to mention, while whining about someone plagiarising you, you've gone somewhere else and called us all assholes. Fuck you.

That's a contradiciton. IF I WASN'T INTENDING TO BE RUDE THEN I DID APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I WAS SORRY FOR BEING RUDE.

Uhm. Yeah. Seriously. I just it's lame to attack me HERE instead of on InSim.

You're not going to change. You're so fucking self righteous. I was discussing what a shit you've been TWICE.

Okay. I was rude there. I did apologize. What else can I do? Gosh if you don't like opinion then don't. I don't get your point. Why am I self righteous if I don't get your frikking arguments.

Oh you've attacked me twice. That's awesome. Ever thought about PMing me instead of doing it elsewhere where I didn't even see that? I'm seriously out of this. I apologized and that's all I can do.

WHERE DID I DO THAT. I said it 54984165 times before. I'm gonna say it again. THAT WAS ABOUT SOMEONE SPECIFIC. I AM SORRY FOR ANY MISUNDERSTANDINGS.

-.-°

What for calling us all assholes on a very public forum like insim? - I don't remember hearing that apology. Must be one of those magic ones - you know - the ones you DON'T HEAR.

I'm not interested in "attacking you" - I'm just telling people that you've done it twice.

Here's what you said on Insim



Link - http://www.insimenator.net/showpost.php?p=736397&postcount=17

Yeah, that doesn't really sound like you were referring to one specific person, darkangel. Sorry. He may have made the accusation, but you agreed with him about it. That makes it look like you have a pretty poor opinion of people on Sims File Vault and those that frequent 'the Fish's site.' At the very least, you weren't exactly clear on what you meant (that you were talking about one person on one of those sites).

ManagerJosh and I used to be....close friends, long before I met my fiance, I've known him for...8 years now.

He's always been somewhat ofa "Knowitall" and he also tried to convince me to turn my website pay so "I wouldnt lose all the great creations"

He then tried to get me to place em on TSR, because I had told him of my extreme money issues, but agian, I dont do that.

His arguments are totally flawed tbh, I could argue with him for hours ona  topic, and he would keep contradicting himself, turn around and say something right, and he was suddenly afk.

He's just a young adult living at home with his parents and his sister, and might I add they are very very strict- and seriously needs to get some sunlight.

Although I wont deny the fact that Josh and I are friends, I wont deny the fact that he can be somewhat ofa n arrogant arsehole :)

I am also teh complete opposite of him, I dont like paysites. And Josh runs Worldsims, afaik they are not pay? If they are, do say so.

I'll give him this much: he's at least making an effort to sound reasonable and civil in that thread towards me. I sincerely doubt we'll ever come to an agreement, but it's rather refreshing to not have it descend into petty name-calling and personal insults.

I wonder how long it's going to be before that thread is locked/split for being off topic.

Where on earth did I say "assholes". Quote please. I did say that quote below and I think Hecubus asked me if I meant that specific person, I said, YES I DIDN'T MEAN ALL OF YOU.

Gosh I never called you assholes.  :roll: I love it how you put words in my mouth. If I had said asshole in that post (but I didn't...you even QUOTED ME...no sign of that word!) then I would have been referring to that one person. That's about it. No one else specifically an asshole here. Not even you. I know you really can't stand me, whysoever, I never called YOU an asshole. Not you nor anyone. You're the one who called me an ignorant little self righteous bitch and that I should fuck myself, see above.


Twice? Once. and I was not referring about everyone. I'm sorry my english sucks that bad that you are that obviously this much offended and would love to chop my head off.

I said it now 32497143298 times. I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT PIRATES IN GENERAL. That was my shiteous english. My lazyness for not editing the post afterwards. Why should I. If you've read the thread, you know I said, I WAS TALKING ABOUT ONE PERSON. I never called anyone an asshole.

Can we move on please. Feel free to kill me because my English suax zomg I fail at life.  :lol:  -.-°

I'm getting tired of repeating myself over and over again.

If you've misunderstood anything, were insulted by what I've said, I'm sorry. I suck. Not kidding, English is far from being my Motherlanguage. I am also a lazy sucker, that's why I decided to not edit my post and clear out, but correct my post in the next one. My fault. Feel free to send me over the plank.





I edited the post on the first page now. Gosh. Zeh drama.  :roll:

gah drama!  On the AA thread though, might i make a suggestion, since it seems like most are here, and whatnot.....not to bring up personal issues when someone is trying to report something or get help, that is completely unrelated to the thread.  Because it can be very misleading and even detrimental to getting things accomplished :D  Just my 2 cents and it's not aimed at anyone person, just a suggestion

Don't get me wrong, I love drama (the sim com is perfect for my fix :shock:) , but I also wanna see the AA be productive etc ;)

Woah Dominique please calm down...

I didn't even know which one was dominique here anyway - so no personal vendetta.  As for words in your mouth, I don't see why I should be happy that you went somewhere else and played the game of "pin the tail on the plagiaser - you get to pick who" - particularly when the comment wasn't that person specific in the first place - it certainly sounded like all of us.  As I didn't plagiarise anything from anybody, surprisingly I don't like be branded as "possible plagiariser".

I don't think that the AA would take very kindly if I made very vague statements about "guess they wouldn't care - they like rudeness" - without specifically naming the rude person.



You being "non-awesome" twice.

Personal whut? *scratches head* Why should there be 2 dominiques? There is just one. I also don't understand how that is related with the drama, ehr, argument.  :wink:


You just IGNORED the fact that you said that I called you "assholes" and I wanted to know WHERE EXACTLY I SAID THAT. Would you answer please or take that at least back?



Did you read my posts or are just wanting to chop my head off because it's fun? Gosh I'm not gonna quote this all over AGAIN. If you can't read, it ain't my fault. I apologized, corrected,...hence why I don't get zeh drama. But yah.  :roll:


You're being non-awesome it pulling this stuff HERE and ignoring my answers. Who's "self-righteous" now?

Look at your username here - it is not dominique. Vendetta - as in personal vengeance against you, for other reasons related to this statement:



It's got nothing whatsoever to do with any problem I have had with you in the past, but rather that I don't like being called a plagiaser.



Calling someone a plagiariser, or someone who doesn't care about plagiarism is as good, if not worse than asshole. Not to mention that you stated that we wouldn't care that someone had taken Nouk's stuff.  I can't quote you - because you did something really nasty and smarmy, and painted us all with the same brush as whoever you were originally talking about.



You're so right - thank you for letting people know to look at my stuff and think I steal things. I'm sure everyone else here with their own site under the same username really appreciates it.  Here I was thinking all my life that plagiarism was a bad thing - but you've made me see the light.  You've turned it into a positive!

Uhm you're ignorant. Where did I say that it's okay...you make no point.

Okay seriously, I did correct my post, I said that the misunderstanding was my fault and you keep hitting on it. THE WORLD DOESN'T EVOLVE AROUND YOU. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU. I NEVER HAVE AND I NEVER WILL. aaaah ignorancy pure.

I'm out of the "discussion" because that ain't no discussion if you don't listen to my apologies...


BTW case is closed, Nouk solved the problem.

woah.

Calalily, are you mad because darkangel agreed with managerjosh?

Or was it the "we're famous" crack?

I'm trying to understand what you find to be 'non-awesome' here, so please don't attack me.

Darkangel, you do understand that managerjosh is kind of like PMBD's version of the AA's Eric DeMars/SIM don't you?

None of us would agree with DeMars if he posted on one of the AA threads and survive unscathed, so you should realize that agreeing with managerjosh is going to get you roasted here.

Do you really think the same about this site, the Fish, and SFV as managerjosh?  

Think about it, okay?

managerjosh is not cool, he's not a member of the AA, and he's a shit stirrer.  He's not right about any of this.  He doesn't know jack-shit about it.

look him up here and you'll see.  go to TSR and look him up on the forums there.

And next time you say 'I'm sorry' do it without the extra 'but...'  and don't be argumentive about it.



 :(  I apoligize to everyone here who feels that they have been slighted.

That's exactly WHAT I DID NOT KNOW THEN. I never saw him posting before, just on some discussion about Copyright blahblah which I didn't read because I don't care about english highendterms-i-do-not-understand.  :roll: I just said I agree because this one person keeps calling herself a pirate and plagiarizes. That was about it what I meant.


WHERE DID I SAY THAT. WHERE ZOMG WHERE. I SAID I DIDN'T MEAN THAT MY ENGLISH IS RETARDED. *head desk*


I said SORRY PERIOD.

Where was a BUT. I defended myself against calalilly's pointless accusations: "you called us assholes" "you hate pirates" "you're a self-righteous bitch". I'm sorry I'm human and I have my opinion and if someone attacks me for no reason I must defend myself. Geez.

This is fun.  Okay, my two cents so have at it.

Calalily AND DarkAngel, I'm not sure either one of you are actual Pirates.  You dogged me out for giving an update about my site THAT is completely Pirate Friendly, shares files AND paysite items.  BUT I shouldn't be allowed to discuss it here??  I can't discuss it anywhere else BECAUSE of the pirate stuff.  Whatever...

Also, you two go on an on about "one particular person" who is a plagarizar/thief, whatever, but you won't come out and say who it is.  What's up with that?  If you don't have proof, why talk about it??  If you do have proof, then who is this "person" so we can all be shy of them with our stuff.

And Manager Josh, pfft!  ROFLMAO!!!

Okay - here's what it's all about:

I referred Line there about the hotlinking, and she was unthinkingly rude to him.  She did apologise - but it was too late - I'd heard about it elsewhere.  Therefore, how can I refer people there if I don't know that they are going to be supported?  Not everyone has a tough skin, and certainly not the people who go to the AA - they're already vulnerable.  They're really not up to having careless statements made about their problems.

Second thing:
This insim statement:

As for what Manager Josh said - well, that wasn't AA - but her reply was basically that PMBD users don't care about the theft of free stuff.  I don't have the luxury of other usernames as she does - my username is consistent, and plastered atop my site and my work, as it is for Marhis, Doursim, Liegen, Nouk, and countless other people with their own sites.

Now, anyone who hears that PMBD users steal stuff, will know who they should consider as thieves - and if you have a different username, well then, you're home free.  If you don't, well you're under suspicion.

I don't think that plagiarism - or being thought to be a plagiarist is a good thing - and I don't like it thought that I do such things.



I told you my opinion on why I wouldn't click on the link - which I did once, but hey, it does get a bit boring, you know.  And both the people with Pirate under their names agreed.  And I don't remember seeing you change to being the cause celebre of this forum.  Yes, you share payfiles, we get it, but that doesn't mean that we need to hear about it every five minutes.



I don't know who it is, I just object to people thinking its me.

I don't get the nickname thing. Seriously, I'm trying here.  :roll: So what if my nickname was taken there or here. I have a pretty random name.

I didn't know when I replied that that Josh was sueing Pes over some shit and I thought he was an AA member for his subtitle states rabid rabbit or sth (hell I found out who he is like 5 mins ago in MSN). I don't have the time check on everything, I have finals, I have my own life, sometimes I need an offtime, that's why I go online actually. Not to find somebody bitching at me and making me leave the AA. Well I hope you're all happy now.



I am not talking about you calalilly, nor about Pes, nor about anyone else execpt this one person. I'd pm you with the history of the person I am talking about but I'm the idiot nevertheless.

Well, I did get a little excited over opening a new site that was different.  I remember Leigen going thru a lot of crap when she changed her sites ideas and motive opporondi.  I just thought I would get more support from fellow Pirates since I can't really talk about the site anywhere else.  Believe me, the excitement is wearing off now.  LOL

Your last quote, I don't blame you.  But if you even make something that looks like someone elses, they will claim you stole it.  Been there, done that...  I hear you.

Acutally Blackpearl, aka DLMuslow, its great of you to step into this because its you who has pissed Darkangel/Dominique off.

The stealing pirate she talks about?
Thats you

You stole free stuff for ages and ages.
You never gave them credit or anything
Now you are using pay content, but you give them credit  :roll:

That's the whole point. I don't. My username is calalily all over the web, and my site is called Calalilysims.  My address for my site has calalily in it - it's pretty identifiable.  At least 4 people checked on my username when I went to simbellas, and it's pretty easy to track my movements on all the websites.

You might be able to take refuge in different usernames - I can't. Therefore, I don't like to be labelled as a potential thief.  It's not that hard to understand.



I didn't start some petition to have you leave the AA - it's not my decision - I was offered a position and refused, and have zero say in it, other than providing information.  If you want to cut down on the jerkiness, I'd be more than happy.



Understandable about excitement.  People will click on the link in your sig though - you don't really need to worry about that. And if EA does as wished for, your advertising problems will be solved.

Amen. You just ignored CaptainJojoba (who BTW has a different nickname at InSim, too). How non-awesome from you.  :roll:


Please? Where did I say "calalily is a thief zomg 1!einz". The world does not turn around YOU. Read CJ's post.  :roll:

My, my aren't we the two faced bitch?  I have NEVER stolen a fuckin' thing from any sim creators.  As I said, I have been accused but I never stole.  Some stupid bitch at InSim thought I stole her sim too, but I proved it wasn't hers just because I happened to have had mine uploaded there a fuckin' year before she put hers up.

For real, bitch please...  There is only so much you can do with an alpha and a recolor.  I have ALWAYS given credit for people's things I used, whether I had their permission or not...they always got the credit.

Also, when I was new at this, I even gave credit then.  If anyone has any PROOF, real proof, bring it.  I WILL admit if I was wrong and I WILL make it right.   Now...

My post took a long time to write. I didn't ignore anyone.

You didn't say anything about anyone in particular - which is the bit you're not getting.  You made accusations to those "in the know" - which until Jojoba posted, I certainly didn't - and don't remember reading such a thing before.  By making vague statements about "a user" that means that unless you know who it is, you get to pick who "a user" is.  And I don't want to be thought of as a thief.

No one thinks you are a thief :)
Am sure dom did not mean for that to come across

And Muslow I am not responding to your post. You know what you have done, and you have just lied. That is two faced

Dominique made an honest mistake in the way she wrote her response. That's all. Why can't it be dropped. She apologized, that wasn't the way she meant it. She does not think everyone on here is a thief.

Seriously, we have this cleared up. Again. I never said you are a thief. Therefor you have no reason to offended. I also said no a motherfucking hundred times that I corrected the post (why am I swearing? I never swear.) and that I'm sorry.

Oh and BlackPearl. Insulting someone as a "Bitch" isn't helping you, nor does it add anything mature to the discussion...even though I've been titled now a hundred times as a bitch now by calalily. This is really mature.

My whole point is that her original post made someone out here to be a thief, and everyone else here as approving of that.  I am not one, I don't condone that, I don't don't want to be thought of like that.



You say it's cleared up, but you keep posting and saying the world doesn't revolve around me.  I am aware of that - but you said on Insim people here like thieves and/or are thieves.  I don't know how much more clearly I can state that because you didn't name names, it's pin the tail on the plagiariser time.  Not everybody reads everything on the web about the sims - as you yourself admitted here - so therefore, it's possible that there are people who will pick who is the thief.

The thread is locked.  Would you like it if the post was altered to point out that one member of the AA who is a member here is the thief?  I'll contact Kathy and get it changed.

there I fixed my spelling.  :shock:

Thief, people.  It's "thief"!  You're making me cry here.   :cry:

But that sounds like such fun.  :cry:



And plagiarizer. Thank you, Firefox, and "Spell check this text box." ;)

LMAO... that is bad. I can't believe I did that. We need a spell checker on here.

gee.  whoops?

I corrected my spelling, okay?  Thank you for pointing it out.  My spelling sucks.

The problem is that it's not going to make much of a difference now - people don't check back on locked threads.  What makes it worse of course, is that other site owners are protected again - aren't they?  There's a private discussion area for accusations about them without proof, but it's open slather on pirates.

You know what?

This "one certain plagiarizer" crap is grade school bullshit, and if you don't have the balls to come out and say it, here and now, in public, just shut your goddamn mouth and go away.  Everywhere.

You sound like a fucking twelve year old.  If you "can't talk about it," then don't.  If you want to cater drama, then actually see it through.  I want to know who you're talking about now, and I don't want to PM you, that's smarmy and petty, let's just have at it.

Look, I don't know who they are talking about as the theif.  If it's me, then I want proof.

Jojoba, you are two faced.  You be nice to me then throw up this crap about me being a theif.  You are damn right I am saying it's crap, because I haven't stolen anything.  No one has proved it.  No one has come to me.  There's nothing!

You can sit with your little friends and talk about somebody behind their back or in front of their face making all these accusations.  What a crock of shit.  Grow some balls and come out and say it instead of sneaking around.

Plus, why don't you keep your mouth shut, unless you have proof!  I don't like being labeled as a theif either.  AA hasn't contacted me in regard to any theivery.  No one has.  Any crap that has gone down has gone thru the admin at InSim.  I'm still there...  If I have made a mistake I got no problems in admitting it, but you best have proof before making all these accusations.

This is who she was talking about.
It's already been brought out.

Excuse me?

if people don't go back an read locked threads then why are you still on about this?

The AA private area is used for gathering evidence in situations where the thief site has blocked our attempts to gather what we need in the open, like Sims International Male and something we are working on for EA legal.

We don't, as a rule, feel one way or another about filesharing sites.  Many of us at the AA are on PMBD and SFV's side.

The only people we are after are those who are guilty of taking stuff without credit.  

Just for your information, managerjosh approached me about attacking Pes and I told him politely to go to hell.

I think the point is someone over there was being cute and going "TEEHEE there's a thief at PMBD, but I won't say who because I'm 12!"

Now see, this is why I have my doubts about the whole AA thing. It was inexcusable of 2-for-you to take and SELL Enayla's stuff. That's worth getting worked up over. But whether or not someone "stole" an alpha?? Even a texture. It's worth pointing and laughing at someone lame enough to take credit for someone else's work, but to go to war over it? Rather absurd I think.

Chin,
I did see where the accusation came out, but it still to me seems like it is "just enough info to piss your taste buds off" rather than explain the situation. I for one know nothing about it and I actually do read InSim every so often and have not see it. I can see Quinctia frustrations though.

I guess what I am saying is that Jojoba I guess maybe should not have opened this can of worms and maybe darkangel should not have gone off on the "stealing pirate, but not you I made a mistake on how I worded it" bit because that too also causes questions, but now that they did, it all still looks rather gradeschoolish, without the details from both sides. We see Black Pearls defense, but have no idea what the offense is that they are defending against. Ya know what I mean?

did you even look at the SIM evidence thread?  DeMars was/is taking stuff from all over.  Helaene, Simsgogogo, PPL, Mercove, and fanseelamb for sure and maybe even others.

here: http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=45629
This is what the AA is fighting.  It's not a simple "lifted alpha" or stolen texture.

the entire reason for a private area is because he banned anyone that even breathed about helping the AA collect those images.

bah, wrong dang link.

Who is going to war? No one was even going after anyone.

What is getting me is I don't even know this Domenique person and apparently she is accusing me.  I don't know what the fuck this is all about and no one will tell me.

I am apparently the theif here, but no one has come to me, or even offered any proof.  It's just a lynch mob of a few jerks saying, "Oh, I know, you mean "that" person."  WTF??

COME TO ME WITH PROOF BUT DON'T ACCUSE WITH NOTHING!

So, Donenique, if you got something, bring it.  Otherwise, all y'all yapping out THEIF, quit until you have something concrete to show everyone.  Like I said, if I've done something, I can own it.

Because people asked me about it is why I'm still talking about it.  dominique did change her post - but still - the damage is done.  Not everyone checks every post on the net about sims, and certainly they don't re-read everything just in case there are changes.



Also to present accusations in private:



This accusation wasn't in private, and was very vague.



I was wondering if you'd get that - a thread from peggy etc.  :lol:

Too true, Redisenchanted.  You cannot "steal" an alpha!  

I know they won't like my site when it opens because I'm using quite a bit of other's textures that I feel was misused and thus needs to be reused properly. Most, if not all, will be changed in some way though so it isn't a copy.

Personally, I don't know enough about any of it to even make any accusation, so I haven't and I wont. Since the matter was handled with the admin/mods of InSIM, I feel any comments about the situation would be best left to them and BlackPearl (DLM). I really am not even sure what happened. It was mentioned, but I don't know the details personally.

Don't worry. Mine is even worse.  :shock: That's why I'm pointing out that spell check in this text box is awesome.

Then again, I mainly just find myself getting annoyed at the fact that I can't spell onomatopoeia without spell check and stuff like that. :P And...I fail at drama. I'll just go back to eating popcorn...  (http://hekima.lionking.org/randomness/emoticons/popcorn.gif)

This is why dominique/whoever:

- Shouldn't be talking about it.
- Sure as hell shouldn't be VAGUE if she's bringing it up.
- Shouldn't be all confused/put out that people misinterpreted what she said.
- Is 12.

I actually have no idea what's going on, don't particularly CARE what's going on, but someone should hash out and explain it (in full) instead of defending their stupidly named army thing.  Just so everyone will shut up.

That's cool hon, I'm not saying you personally need to divulge anything. If anything from the short time I have been here you have been very upfront.

I guess it is just that IF (and I say IF) this was handled between Black Pearl and the Mods, why did dominique/ darkangel feel the need to post that statement on InSim at all and then Jojoba bring it out here. If they were not privy to what the Mods/Admin decided after their investigation, then how would they know enough to accuse black pearl of being a thief even if it was indirectly? That one mistaken statement on InSim brought out without maybe knowing all the details (because it was handled by the Mods and Admin at InSim, not the AA) stirred this whole pot up. If this was handled by the Mods/Admin then we really don't know if darkangel's mistaken post held merit even after the change.

I guess for me what it boils down to is that if forums have private areas, then the members of those areas need to make sure they mention nothing from them, even in jest or "trying to be smartassy" because when you do, people start to wonder and shit like this happens. Then it looks very much like Quinctia said...



AND if the AA wants to be take seriously you guys don't need that. I've really got my hopes up on other matters because of you guys, even though I doubted last week. The enthusiasm is contagious and I know many people I hold with great regard that thinks this might happen.



Please note: darkangel, Cala and Jojoba, I'm cool with y'all too, you all have always been kind to me and even pointed out sometimes when I have been a newb dumbass :lol: . I'm not trying to be accusatory, just trying to figure all of this out for my own benefit.

Um, no... we have no accusations in the private area.  

The EA legal thing was posted in the normal forum and moved because admin at Insim thought it was sensitive info.  

The other things we have there are a 'who to add' thread, a spam thread with spam in it,  a 'semi-closed' case brought to us by an Insim mod over an Insim user, and a thread about this one.  I'll get a screen cap if you need it.

Well, I won't be bothered about it anymore.  I resigned from the AA so they can't play anymore IN games about me anymore.  "Teehee, teehee...the pirate is a theif."  

How fuckin' stupid anyway to let someone they believe to be a thief even join the club???  WTF??

Anyway...I still haven't seen any proof yet.

Well, that's why it won't come in good use to change a post - people don't often read and reread every single thing.  She changed the post, but the potential damage is still done isn't it?  I read that quoted post about a week ago, and presumed that would happen.  



I think that Jojoba was trying to make it clear who was being accused.  Accusations in the open, that are clear and concise, I have no problem with - they can call out each other and prove or disprove it, or receive support, just as Black Pearl has done here.  Sly little backstabs aimed indiscriminately, I have a big problem with - you can't defend what isn't defined.

 :shock: Are you guys saying that Black Pearl/DLMulsow is Eric from S.I.M.?  :shock:

Or, do I need more rum? That's always a possibility.

Meh, whatever. DeMars is clearly a lame moron worthy of pointing and laughing at. Unless he's charging money, couldn't tell for sure, I won't get arsed over it, not worth the energy.

I found this hilarious comment on DeMars site, maybe he and Chriko will run into each other:



I guess I'm saying, why get angry when it's more fun to mock them?

Since I'm not invested in the project though, what I think isn't relevant.

no, evil.

I actually laughed out loud at this :lol: no - or at least I don't think so.

dewshine was just saying what they were fighting.

Ok. I didn't think so but I'm having such a blonde day that I had to ask. LOL I'm going to go pillage the rum because I obviously need more.  :lol:

*hands over a bottle of rum*

Thank ye, matey! Arrrrrr!

I could use a swallow o' that rum too.  But be careful...these sticky fingers might run off with it.  ROFL  :roll:

Double posted...woops

Right...sorry guys for being very vague with this and not explaining my accusation. I've been on the site for a while and post quite regularly...I dont try to make drama, it aint my thing, and I didnt want to post about BlackPearl/DLMuslow because it doesnt involve me. I only did so to explain what dom was going on about

DLMuslow has repitively stolen content at insim. People she have stolen from include Sgnooby, Persephone and Kathy, to name a few. She did not ask permission and did not give credit. Upon being asked about it she said she didnt realise it was wrong and then edited the post to give credit.
That would have been fine imao, but she has continuously done this - as in steals content and posts it as her own. So much so she was banned at Insim for a while.

Here is some evidence:

http://www.insimadult.net/showthread.php?t=811 - is kathys work
http://www.insimadult.net/showthread.php?t=22430 - below is DLMuslows download, which takes textures
from Kathys (above link) and one of Sgnooby's dresses
http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=22288 - she did NOT have Sgnooby's permission, and only
posted credit after being confronted with it

And some from Insim site:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/dewshine2003/YAFSS_021.jpg)
By Kathy

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/dewshine2003/YAFSS_020-2.jpg)
Muslows version


There are more but they have been reported and removed, so I am unable to post all of them or screenshots of them, all the proof is in the reported posts section in the main insim site and the adult site...ask Kathy, Sgnooby or Persephone about Muslow and they will tell you this
is true.

Its your choice whether you believe me or not - but Muslow knows what she did and the people she stole of know

What's that second screenshot evidence of?  I see credit.

It's possible that it was edited in later, but then I just don't see why you posted it as evidence.  Just shows that she modded some of the outfits one creator made onto the mesh of another.  It's not particularly original, but it's new enough, credited, and I'm sure a few people would be interested in it.  I'd leave it out in future explanations, as it doesn't particularly bolster your standpoint.

I'm glad we could be grown-up enough to actually speak of what we were hinting at finally, though.  I don't know what it's like over at InSim, but over here we managed to have a thread discussing how Enayla had been disingenuous about some of her digital artwork in the past, and while there was some debate and argument, it certainly didn't degenerate into this.  If we can talk like that about someone who's admired highly in the community, very talented, and not have a shitflinging dramafest, I think it's possible to do that with anyone else.

But yeah, now people know what's up and can look at what you've provided.  The person you're talking about has the opportunity to explain, rebutt, or ignore, and other people can...well, they still won't know for sure that they're not being snarked about vaguely because of all of your previous behavior, but it's a step in the right direction, I suppose. :P

She gave credit after being confronted. Ask Kathy...ask anyone she stole of.

I am not making this up and lieing to you guys...I wouldnt lie to my fellow pirates

the post was edited after Kathy jumped on her.

Yeah, I edited my post because I hate oneliners and double-posts.

But, like I said above, it's not good evidence then. :)

I'm with Quinctia, doesn't seem like a big deal. If Kathy's gotten over it, why does anyone else care? That's not adequate for me to even point and laugh. Good grief, this stuff is more than 2 years old anyway. Seems silly to carry a grudge that long.  :roll:

THANK YOU for pointing that out!  THis shit happened back when I was a noobie with Sims.  I didn't even know what an alpha was.  I have learned a lot since then.  But, when you fuck up once, no one sees that I have HUNDREDS of downloads to my credit.  HUNDREDS...yet, these sad few old ass things are what make me a theif NOW.   Hello? OLD ASS SHIT.  I still use things from paysites now with full credit.  But I haven't done free creators in awhile without asking permission.

The kathy thing was a nighty I downloaded that someone else uploaded without a name.  (Apparently they had actually stolen it from Kathy because all it said was PJ on it)  I recolored it on a different mesh.  Kathy didn't "jump" on me about it either.  We were talking about it and she gave me the link.  I was surprised because I had gotten the outfit somewhere else and kathy's name wasn't on it.  When kathy told me it was hers, I immediately gave credit.  

The Sgooby thing, yep, same thing about the whole not knowing what an alpha was.  BUT, I recolored his alpha and GAVE CREDIT when it was uploaded.  He was pissed because I didn't ask for permission to recolor it.

The Persephone thing was all a private / friendship missunderstanding.  It was a personal deal between us two.  She had given me permission to use her textures then decided not to after we had a falling out.  Either way, she was GIVEN CREDIT on the uploads at the time of the upload.  

Most of this is about not asking permission.  Well, WTF, I admit that, BUT I ALWAYS GAVE CREDIT!  The kathy thing was the only one because I didn't know who had made the alpha when I recolored it.  IMMEDIATELY when I found out it was hers, I added the CREDIT.  You can ask her that too.

I'm no theif.  I think there is a big difference in using someone's shit without permission and giving credit than just out and out taking it and taking the credit for it too.

So, there's my rebut.  Believe it or don't.  Either way, it's all old ass shit.  I have good fans and I have some who hate me and follow me around begging to be as good by accusing me of the assasination of Kennedy.  So this, doesn't bother me anymore.  ;)

So there we have it. All pros and cons. Now everyone can make up their own minds, no need to keep fighting.

It gives me a headache when pirates fight among themselves.  :(

Shouldn't the word 'plagiarized' be used instead of 'stolen?' When Black Pearl was accused of stealing, I wasn't quite sure how she could actually steal a digital creation without hacking into someone's computer and taking a file without the permission of the creator (and that's a whole different can of worms).

And in this particular case, said plagiarism was quickly fixed; she failed to give credit to the originator of said mesh and corrected that situation when asked to. It seems to me that if a mistake was made and corrected when it was pointed out, there's really no need to keep harping on about it; it makes the 'accuser' sound petty and childish.

That's a good thing about publishing oneself on the Internet: mistakes can be immediately corrected at the source instead of having a wait for a retraction to be printed out and distributed.

But some people don't know what to do with themselves if they don't have a good witch hunt to go on.  I also noticed they can't even spell the name correctly.   :roll:

I waited a bit for further evidence - but I see none.

Geez - I thought this was a recent event - like you'd plagiarised someone with new content in the last month or so.  It surely wasn't necessary to bring it up right now - and certainly not to accuse everyone here of being in on it.

Some people are petty Calalily.  I think it was you who had refered someone to the AA for help but they were blown off, well, I resigned from that club.  I brought up the Nouk thing there, and it turned into a "Oooh, the thief turned in a thief" thing instead of trying to help Nouk.  I'm sorry for that.  I won't direct anyone there for help again either.

Also, my resignation was swiftly carried off to the private discussion area so they can have their laughs and back-stabbing conversations over me in private now.   :roll:

And when some people don't have anything better to say, they pull apart spelling. Who cares. It's a simple mistake, you know what they meant.

I don't really know. The people I heard about this from haven't been over here as far as I know, so we really haven't heard from both sides.

Pirates are always arguing amongst themselves. It's good for us, gets the blood boiling. Arguments happen here all the time, they usually are forgotten as quickly as they begin.

And no one is laughing about you. You asked that the post be removed, and it was.
You had no issue with anyone being blown off (which they weren't) until you found out you were brought up. You were all fine and dandy with the AA, hell, you even made everyone's avi's.

When I heard about somebody stealin' something I thought it was gonna be good. I come on here and read THREE PAGES of this shit and it's from like 3 years ago? What in the hell are y'all still goin' on it about? Whoever brought this up is childish. That reminds me of 2nd grade when me and my friend got mad at each other. We'd spread rumors like "This one time she.." Come on guys. I, personally, don't see the evidence since she changed the crap and Kathy got over it...can't you guys? Are you that childish that you throw something that was a MISUNDERSTANDING back in his/her(Blackpearl which are you? xD ) face as something other than a misunderstanding? God stop beating the poor damn horse it's already dead.

Anyhow. As refreshing as that was to say I have one more thing to add. How in the hell did this big "argument" or what ever in the hell it is get started? (the one that's going on now. Not the one that happened like 30 million years ago.)

Well, I spoke with kathy, she says she's done with this shit.  We hashed this out long ago and we're good.  So, if she comes running over here because you called her it will surprise me.  I believe she has better things to do than encourage this petty little witch hunt.  Persephone doesn't do Sims anymore and Sgooby (Chris) has got better things to do as well.

These are the wronged parties.  As far as anyone else, they are just on a bandwagon.  Grow up.  If the wronged parties are over it, why don't you get over it too?

And Chinchillagrl,  I don't really care about the spelling of most words, but if you're going to accuse someone, at least get their name right.  I was all for AA when I thought they were actually helping people, not over here making accusations.

Yes, Nouk, I agree, this thread should be locked/closed whatever.  It's no longer about you.  It's just a spam fest.

I have no idea, RedLove. This whole thing has confused me. So, I'm just sitting by drinking rum and giggling at it all.

Ok let me clairify a few things. It wasn't 3 yrs ago.. it was 8 months ago. It wasn't a single incident but numerous incidents. Credit wasn't even given until she was called on it. People were and are still pissed about it and rightly so when in one breath she denies it and the next defends it claiming she didn't know.

And beating a dead horse? Well I see the Delphy thing being beat again so are some exempt from having their past brought up?

Speak of the devil! Surprised?  :lol:

(Yes, I'm bored.)

No,kathy, it's really stupid to bring something up and start fighting about it. I mean really. This could have easily been settled in pm and nobody would have had to deal with everybody going "Well she's a backstabber," and "He said that you said that I said..." crap. 8 months is a long time. If they are still peeved with her(him?) why bring it all the way from one forum to another? From Insim to PMBD?

Although I will say this is all very amusing after I got over reading 3 pages about something that didn't even happen that recently. I just have a feeling this argument is going to last for about 5 more pages.

Duckie...pass the rum and an aspirin if you don't mind.

Everyone likes to fight apparently. Now if you are passing rum and asprin I will take 4 please.

Fighting isn't fun unless you inflict physical pain. Psh. Mental abuse is bad but ain't nothin' like knockin' somebody out.  :D

I got tylenol >.< *passes it*

yaya for tylenol.. Now where is my rum?

*Passes Kathy the rum* :)

Thank you for clarifying this.  I don't agree with plagiarising, and understand the infuriating nature of it.  Not cool.

And my cigarette? I'm a demanding wench today.

*Passes double helpings of rum and a super-sized bottle of asprin around to everyone*

All I have are unfiltered Camels - will that do?  :lol:

Are you trying to kill me? Go fetch me some filtered cigarettes or off with your head!

I'm glad we are calling it plagiarisms now :lol: Stealing is giving me these images of some nerdy "H4x0r" hacking your computer and stealing your files. Maybe it was a mistake and maybe it wasn't I don't know nor do I really understand all this stuff about alphas and crap. What I do know is that all of this sounded very 12 10 really but  don't tell Pescado and it's one of those things that it gets annoying when you keep bringing it up in public. I think it can be settled in private if both parties stop being hard asses and try to work it out.

ETA: thanks for the rum. I'm not 21 yet so I hope your happy knowing that you are illegally giving e-rum to a minor.  :roll:

Well, shit...Hi kathy.  This is rather surprising.  I guess the PMs finally bated you to get in here.  Poor thing, do you ever get any rest??  LOL  Please do clarify tho that it was only the nighty that was our (mine and your) issue.  You told me in IM that we were okay and it was over.  

There may be others that are angry over shit, but that should also be between me and them.  These are all old things from when I was a noobie to sims.

You know, hey, I fucked up once, a long time ago.  It's over.  I owned it, I gave credit when I found my mistake.  How many of you fucked up in your lifetime??  Right...  

I have done many recolors since then and I deserve a fresh start and this shit should just be forgotten.  How long is pennance for petes sake??

*kathy...rum please.*

Haven't got any filtered. So, I'll take the "off with your head" option. The way it feels today, I'd actually feel better.  :lol:

Red, I'm a pirate, giving e-rum to a minor is the least of my "worries". Besides, no one is making you take it.  :P

As for the argument - I thought it had been settled in private. At least that's the impression I got. This whole thing here started when one person decided they weren't satisfied with the results gotten in private and felt it necessary to drag it into the public light.  :roll:

It may have been one instance between you and I but multiple between other creators. And since I own the site I am the one that had to deal with the drama.

Point blank you screwed up. You know you screwed up. There is no point in denying it. All this is doing is giving me a migraine. Some people called you on it because it bothered them. This is no different than people calling other people for their past crimes because it others them.

Whether or not I'm "cool" with it isn't the point. I wasn't cool with it when you did it. I equally wasn't cool with it when I had people messaging me to deal with it. It was drama I didn't need nor was it drama I appreciated.

Now I need more tylenol.

Liar. You threatened me.  :o

But would you go get me some? Pretty please?  :cry:

I only threaten those I like... I have to keep up my piratey ways.  8)  :lol:



Well, since you said Pretty Please... Here are some filtered ones. I found them in Red's booty stash... :lol:

This is true, I haven't denied the fact that I fucked up.  I hate that you had to be involved in some of these issues because as we both know, some of them were not even well founded accusations.  You have even proved some of them false.  Those that I fucked up on so long ago, were righted, I thought, way back then.  If some still have a problem over it, I didn't know about it until now.

Okay, Super sorry y'all.  I fixed those mistakes back then.  What else do you want from me?

*Did someone say there were cigarrettes?

yayaya Now I'm a happy girl

I smoke Camel filter, would you some? *passes kathy the packet*

On a side note, whenever someone came out with any accusation that a) doesn't fit with the thread topic or b) is aimed to low the witness/supporter reliability only, instead of facts related to the matter (O.J. Simpson defendant anyone?), is not only childish, but an automatic admittance of failure: the accusant (accuser?) doesn't have any other argument to support.

Oh, and children usually call things with their name; those who doesn't, and prefer to throw in only "hints" and slimy suggestions, with no real reason why, are the worst scum on earth.

Sorry for being rude, but this shit usually makes my hands hitch.

Well, Kathy, as you are here I will put an end to all this bullshit by publically apologizing to you here and now.

I fucked up.  I didn't do it on purpose, but I'm sorry for the drama all this caused you.  I'm sorry about the nighty from way back then and I'm sorry that it all got brought back up again.  Give me a solid beating, flogging, walk the plank...whatever.  

But, let's end this now.  We've been talking in PM since we started this shit today.  LOL  

*Long drag on that good cigarrette.

Aw, Kathy's so cute!

Can we keep her? :) :)

Maybe Eric will be okay with us just "borrowing" you for a while.

(P.S. We have booze and cigs AND desserts here.

Also, some folks have *whispers* boobies.)  :P

Yes I am cute rofl Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooobies!!!!!!

Shit, she ran off to cook supper before she saw the apology.  Will y'all make sure she gets it?  Thanks.  

As for the dessert, can I have some too??  Or is that part of my pennance...y'all gonna eat it in front of me?  LOL

Nouk screamed:



You and your emo hair.  Look at what you've wrought.  12 pages of me not being able to tell the identity or secret identity or hidden identity or multiple identities of anyone.

Major Headache Without Rum .TM

*passes the rum*

I don't know about anyone else, but, threads like this are what makes PMBD a fun read.   :lol: I like drama.  Sorry if that makes me a bitch.  :shock:

Jesus Tap-dancing Christ.
As my mother would say, wind your bloody necks in.

I like drama too as long as it eventually comes to a conclusion and doesn't linger like the smell of rotten fish.

I'm hungry.
I want some pizza.

If you did it, you won't do it again, so all's well as far as I'm concerned.

I'll share my desserts.

You want tiramisu or flan? It's International Day here at Scurvy Dog Boutique De Sweets.

We may still have Unholy Mother Of All Treats Quintuple Chocolate Gooshy Drizzling Coma Bombs left, too. They're pretty good, though a wee bit on the fatty side.

Ok. . . 12 pages of swearing, accusations about people and things i could care less, but seriously, whats the resolution on the emo hair? Raping? Pillaging? Somebody's former friend slathered in honey and left to the bears? I"m in suspense here.

Skimmed it but I think it was a misunderstanding... she/he was sharing it and not claiming it as her/his work.

It seems to be an exceptionally easy 'isunderstanding' to have made, considering that it was actually posted in an area where creators normally post their own creations. The entirety of the message (sans image) said:


Granted, they never claimed it was their own work, but they never stated that it wasn't, either, and considering that the majority (if not all) of the other posters in that area post their own work in that specific forum, it was understandable to think that the user in question was claiming to have made it.

Also, it was shared with an exceptionally bad pic showing the black 'do in the dark... A crime in itself!  :lol:

God, some of you guys are such babies.

Ugh, all the cancer-stick smoke is giving me a headache. Someone pass me some rum.

I do have to say, this was some interesting 13 or so pages. Last time I checked this thread a day or two ago I could have sworn there were only 4 pages. Meh, I'm glad all this has been straightened out.

no, i'm serious people (and drunk) what happened? did nouk eat people or was it all forgotten with the whole darkangle/otherperson dialogue.

Slightly OT, but still in the same vein as saying someone elses' work is your own: Not long ago, I found the MaxoidMonkey lots he/she designed for the game on the exchange, but listed under like 3 different people on the Maxis Exchange.Nothing was changed whatsoever, and 2 of the 3 claimed they made them. I as well as several other people signed these 3 members guestbooks letting them know what we thought, and only one fucker was stupid enuff to fight and still claim they designed the lot!Anyways, after that, I let the fight go, so I dunno if they were deleted out of the exchange or not, but go figure. I remember when I played SC4, and there was alot of lot stealing then.

Why do they continue doing this stealing thing...?

If you run a paysite, you are stealing intellectual property and trying to make a buck off the community by reselling things that depend on tools that are free and a game engine owned by EA. Why are you shocked that someone who has the balls to steal from a huge, international company would likewise have the balls to steal from peers?

It's greed. Anything to make a buck.

Or a burning desire to become a Big Name Fan (look upon my works and [strike]despair[/strike] worship me!), in the Sims 2 community. Which is sad in and of itself.

Wow, this thread took me back to the very early days of Sims 1 and the TSR forums before they became not only useless but boring as well.  I wasn't sure whether to thank you all or curse you all until I realized that the aggravating melody that is now stuck in my head is a tune we learned in something like third grade. . . it included the line "i before e except after c."

 :cry:

It'll take a lot of rum, possibly with a tequila chaser, to make it stop.

Hmm.

 :D

Thanks!

Christ-on-a-jumped-up-motor-driven-crutch...

And I thought LiveJournal RPG was a seriously irritating, snide, sly, slimy, thoroughly infuriating bastion of nursed grievances, concealed grudges, nearly-intentional misunderstandings and childish temper tantrums...

But at least they were allowed to have it out. Most places would have locked the thread because most pussy moderators are afraid of confrontations. I say if you're willing to fight in public, the ref shouldn't say you can't.

*toasts the pirates*

...Does this mean Nouk doesn't want us to have this hair?  But Kennedy Cox looks so hot now!

No, Nouk has said that she's planning on releasing it relatively soon anyway... I haven't met her personally, but she doesnt seem the type to show off something, ask for critique and accept compliments on it, and then go, "nyah nyah i'm not sharing."

I deleted it, I have been quite busy with work so I haven't been on my forum and thought I saw briefly a thread that discussed this I couldn't make heads or tails of what the hell was going on.

Also I am not going to pretend like I read though this ... but:

1. We do not tolerate our members claiming someone else work.  The hair was not created by said member, it shouldn't have been in our creative corner.

2. We generally do not censor any sharing of files.  Our policy is generally if you shared it with the wrong person and it is out then we let it go on being shared.  However, we are not unreasonable people either.  If someone would have contacted me, maybe they did I have about a dozen unopened pms (work *sighs*), and let me know that this was a hair that was going to be released in the near future and asked me to remove it I wouldn't have hesitated in doing so.

Which of the approximately 3000 Sims 2-related LJ communities are you referring to?

Also: you weren't expecting a blog site to be populated solely by reasonable, adult, well-behaved people, I'm sure. Right? :)

Hmmm I wanted to, but then I decided I didn't really care. :P

I figured that, but I felt like pouting.

Ha. Silly Plum, Pirates don't pout. Next time you get the urge, drill holes in your first mate's wooden pegleg instead. Much funnier. And it kills the desire to pout. Also, I've been meaning to tell you this since i first started lurking, but you have the most awesome av in all the forum... (all the forums... ever, actually.)