PMBD

I am so tired seeing all of these thank you threads.  Seriously, stop making them before I start deleting every last single one of them.

If you feel you really must say thank you, please do so in this thread.

THANK YOU BLUE!!! Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou!!! *falls down to knees and kisses Blue's feet*

For this thread, that is. THANK YOU.

Yes, thank you for this thread. It was about time! XD

LOL you could just make a sticky that warns of massive killing should a thank you thread appear!

Well, no doubt some new person would make a thank you thread for that. :P

I've gone through and locked all the thank you and all of the request threads.  We don't like either. :P

I would like to thank the creators who made the stuff(mwoah, some of it is pretty nice, you know, so thanks). I would like to thank Pescado for the idea and his braveness(you're a lion, let me hear you roar). And I would like to thank all the peeps who actually bought this pay stuff and shared them with us. And I would like to thank the people who worked hard to get these files available for us. And I would like to thank the nice people here, for your sense of humour. And EA games. And my dog. Mwuah, thank you, thank you everyone.  :D

ok. Before you poke me with a stick, this was just a joke...

Really...

So thank you!!! you made me hogshit happy.

thank you for this great site! ... PS.. Pirates are HOT !!!!

Thank you!
Mostly for standing up to something that's bugged me for a long time. :wink:

Thank you  :D

umm.... so you don't like Thank You threads...

MERCI - DANKE - DIOLCHIADAU - GRAZIE - ARIGATO....

*Ahem* Baaaaaaaaaaa

Thank you for providing me with much needed amusement.

Cheers!

Officially thank you!

omgz tank u 4 diz sye!!!!!!!111!1111!!

i wuld rellie lyk to gt teh new pegyg hare for todi adn wsd??? so plzzzzzzzz uplod it???????/????/??

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Thank you for stickying this thread and the one stating PSMBD doesn't take requests.  :)

Arr!   ^^

My days are now filled with laughter, thankies for that.  :P

I... I just wanted to say... that it feels so good *sniffle* excuse me... that it feels really good to be apart of something meaningful.  A part of something *sob* for the people.  My life is rich and full now that I know that I have this to come home to.  Power to the people!  *weep*

Oh, and yay for booty!

YAY!

thank you for making a thank you sticky!

man... i'm glad i helped suggest it. *struts and falls off a plank*

at any rate... THANK YOU ALL for what you do here. you guys truly rawk. if you ever need a hand w/ something (dunno what) i can prolly help with er... whatever i can do. -_-

baaaah...

Thanks, this is great.  :lol:

I motion for Pescado to impliment the "Thanks" button from MATY.

Only if he calls it the "omgkthx" button.

lemme repeat my thank yous.  thanks, really.  you're doing something great.

I want to thank BlueSoup for the Booty Updates thread.  I was sad and then I was glad.  :}~

I would like to thank everyone that has contributed to the booty, and to those who've kept things running here. I also would like to thank lyric lee for leading me to the site in the first place. THANK YOU!

I just want to thank everyone for distracting me from the constant internal jabs and kicks and from the fact that I have to pee countless times an hour. Seriously, this is some good reading.

C.

I want to thank Plum, for his/her hypnotic avatar.

I'm not sure how to properly phrase my post (probably going to sound corny) but I'm really, really enjoying the posts here and the booty, I can't even describe the level of awesome this site and all the piratey goodness ranks so thanks you guys.  :D

*sings* Thank you very much! Thank you very much! That's the nicest thing that anyone's ever done for me!

Thanx for opening my eyes! After being one of the victims of the "artist's" deep pockets, I too see things in a different light. Cheers to you!

Thank you for sparing my lowly pocket change!

Go raibh mile maith agat!

Thanks for this sticky, Bluesoup. 8)

Thank you Thank you  Thank you ....
 8)

Thank you for thank you thread and stuff and so on etc...

I know y'all are sick of it, but I'm adding my chorus of thanks anyway.

Hi.  I just found this, via other pirates.  

I think it's important to encourage and thank creators for their work.  I think it's important to thank people in the world for taking a stand.  I think that what is being done here (including the whole 'in your face' attitude) is a Very Good Thing.  

I remember getting my sims game on release day.  I remember reading the EULA because there was a bunch of internet hullabaloo about it.  I remember being insanely joyous because that EULA pretty much said that everything creators make for this game will be free because they say so.  I remember being double insane with glee when I realised that all CC used in building and decorating a lot would be included with that lots package, because that's the way it was written.

I was very very very very sad when paysites stayed.

And not just because I'm broke and the prices these people ask for their items is fucking insane if all that money is for is to keep their website running.  People make money off this shit to supliment their lifestyle, and turn around and deny it.  I wouldn't be so ... irritated by it if they just fessed up and told the truth.

And then there are places like TSR.  Taking the communities work and putting it up for sale, when the most a creator is going to get is a few free membership days, and that's only if they pump things out on a steady and regular basis.  They have thousands of members, they boast being the largest sim community, and there is no way in fuck all that those monthly donation fees are just enough to cover running costs.  Someone is sitting fat and happy on a wad of cash.  It's a hell of a racket.

So really, thank you guys.  Thank you for allowing me to be a pirate.  There's a good deal of it that is principle for me.

I just want to say Thank You!  Saw alot of things that were cute, but definately not worth what  the paysites are asking for it.

Just wanted to let you guys know you're awesome!!!! :D  :D  :lol:  :D  :D

*aussieone looks for the thank you button

 :?

baaaahhh

I won't feel right if I don't contribute my own 'thank you' to this thread, so..

Thanks. Really.

I'm highly opposed to paysites and the fact that it seems to be more about greed than this 'it's for bandwidth' excuse.

I'll add my thanks to this thread too.

This site is awesome. I'm glad somebody is standing up to the paysites. I love reading the drama and the gossip and the hypocrisy.

You guys rock!

I need to thank everyone who made me laugh so hard today. Your posts are so hilarious.

Thank you to everyone who made this site possible. I love it. LOVE LOVE LOVE!

I was actually considering making a "donation" at PeggySims2 and coming here totally made me not do it. I can't believe how greedy these people are. Sharing personal information? WTF.

Argh, internet drama!

I just thought I should post before I grab my share of the booty. :D
Yes I am known on one of the sites you love to hate.
No this is not my real name.
No I have never paid for CC and never intended to.
I agree that Sims CC does not qualify for all the accusations of "THEIF" that seem to be everywhere.
I really hope I can spell it properly when I need to. Seeing things the wrong way so many times can really mess with your head.
I have only just discovered this place, but I haven't done much reading at MATY until recently and I've only posted once. All the carry on about sharing PayPal info has got me reading a lot and I stumbled across a mention of this site. No surprise really as I've always been a bit scared to get involved at MATY. I would definitely be locked up in RL as I can say some pretty dumb things at times. I will probably stick to being a lurker for a while yet, although it isn't quite as intolerant here.
Don't get me wrong, I can do intolerant too, and do everyday. Stupid people are my major prejudice in life. I just sometimes end up on the wrong end being intoleranted at. You know the words.

On topic: Oh yeah Thank-you.

Cpt. Fs

A *thank you* thread?
Wow, you guys have really gotten above yourself (http://www.simplystella.com/icons/asd.gif)


(http://www.simplystella.com/icons/lookaround.gif) j/k

Thank you for being a friend,
Travelled down the road and back again.
Your heart is true, you're a pal and a confidant.

And if you threw a party-,
Invited everyone you knew-,
You would see the biggest gift would be from me
And the card attached would say,
Thank you for being a friend-.

Oh My God! Carla Niven is here!  :D  :D  :D

(sorry, I didn't resist  :P )

Nononononononononononononononononononono
Please don't say that about me. I'm nice. I'm a friendly pirate.
Pleeeezz dont b meen 2 mee!!!!!1
(That's my first ever post of that nature. I'll try not to do it too much.) lol

Yet another thank you reply   :twisted:

I am trying to make myself a pirate icon to go along with my name here ... but I can't seem to get my program to work.

*boo*

Oh well.

Always wanted to be a pirate!!!

You need more practise.  That was horrible.

Although I'm not sure why that would be a boast-worthy skill, being able to convincingly mock netspeak.

Argh, never mind.  :P

Damn.

Hmm. You know what this website really needs? Boobies. Preferably pirate boobies.

I DEMAND BOOBIES!!!

Where is Kathy when you need her?


...oh wait, this is the thanks thread. Let me give it a shot. Ahem... Baaaaa. Whoops. Well, I guess that's close enough.

Sorry it's a bit big.
(http://picnicbaskets.bizland.com/store/media/BoobsNBooty.jpg)

Yay! Pirate boobies!

Feathersword wins!

What, the boobs?

They're fine.

w00!! New rule! TITS OR GTFO! :D

Thank you Jebus, for boobies.

Thanks, this is great! Baaah baaah!

I'm only kidding, I know Pescado has mentioned that positive feedback serves little to help one make improvements, so I'll think of something negative (or at least constructive) to say.

Ehm...er....well I can't find anything negative to say actually.

So let me thank you for taking such a firm stand against those paysites and their ill-got-monetary-gains, and for making those "donation" items available to those of us in the SIMS 2 community who live in fear of our personal information being swapped freely amongst paysite owners.

Oh yes, I must say you are rather sweet and cuddly group of pirates as well.  Why?  Well I've heard no mention of the Cat-O-Nine tails (captain's daughter), the heave to, kielhalen(keelhauling?), or of being marooned on a sandbar with little if any provisions.

Keep up the good work maties, or shall I say MATYs!

Well, not amoung ourselves, but all paysite owners must walk the plank.

Isn't walking the plank an invention of Hollywood and/or Pop Culture pirates though?  Wouldn't a heave- to into shark infested water after being dragged against the barnacles along the ship's keel beneath the pirate ship be a more fitting fate for those paysite owners?

Terribly sorry if it is. Keel hauling followed by sharks is definitely better.

A huge load of curses coming straight from my hard drive for filling it up with tons of new folders and files...

... and a big thank you from me ;)

Cheers everyone.

I agree 100% with the cause of this site, yet I have not one download in my game.

I would have said something earlier, but I was franticly searching for the (baaaah) thanks button.

I havent downloaded  too much, but do so love the witty and intelligible banter theree is to be found here.  Its the only place I frequent other than MATY.

Hoorah for the booty, I'm sure I will do some quality pillaging once I have a chance to peruse the booty.

Thanks for the booty. :wink: I've subbed or donated to most of those sites at one time or another so I dont feel badly about adding to my considerable download folder.  :D Keep'em coming.

Thank you for creating this site, and thank you for the booty. ;)

Thankyou for robbing other sites by *pirating* their sims.

Not because i want the content OR would steal things, but because i find this website so amusing.. MWAH! me love you long time.

I'd actually never heard of Carla Niven prior to joing this group, so I had to go and check out the site, and in all honesty, I wasn't missing much. I've seen nicer skins on a banana.  :roll:

o bebi yes. this site has everything. thank you omg. :]

Thank you, Pescado, for your massive balls in doing this!

Instead of thanking Pes and company for the booty, which I really don't care that much about, I would rather thank them for allowing what is truly a medium for free speech. I was recently banned from a forum (non-sims-related) simply for stating a differing opinion (politely, I might add). Such an unfortunate occurance has made me appreciate the fine folks at MATY and PMBD even more than I already did. I do not 'donate' to paysites as a matter of general principle, even though I could easily afford to do so. Thus, I consider PMBD an honourable cause to support. Thanks, guys!

Ach, I'm sorry if I gave anyone cavities with my sickly sweet post.

I avoided this thread like the plague, but my stance is pretty much this. I get banned from forums on a fairly regular basis for speaking my mind, and it's nice to have a place to vent about sims-related crap. I'd gotten so tired of playing nice.

Ok. I will.

I am what one may consider a moderate pirate. :) I do believe there are sites out there that genuinely charge mainly for bandwidth. ("Mainly" is the operative word here.) There is one site I use a lot that simply requested $2.00 US IF users can afford it, and had a nifty little thank-you gift for those who did. This was $2.00 for no fewer than six MONTHS. More, I believe. NOT $2.00 a month or $2.00 a download. No "mesh" games or pity tactics. No "if you share the thank-you gift, you are a criminal". I ponied up the money.

Problem is, I didn't realize how very FEW sites fit into this category. How many cut corners and overcharge. (I learned that the hard way with one service, unfortunately.) How the term "bandwidth" seems to be up for interpretation. How many creators piss away the money and don't stand behind their product. How crappy a lot of these gifts are. I originally grinned with glee when I saw the booty, but much to my surprise, there weren't many files I really wanted. All that glitters is not gold and all that. Thank you to those who took the time to organize the booty.

This board, along with Better Sims, is letting me see the good, the bad and the ugly about paysites .... mostly the bad and the ugly. Being on a super-tight budget makes me picky about giving money to paysites in the first place; this board and my bad experience with a download has made me a LOT more reluctant to give cash to ANY paysite.

So ... thanks for all the work involved in putting this together!

Usually I would have avoided to post here, but I've just read somewhere that Pescado HATES thank-you posts, so...

THANK YOU PESCADO!!!!

(I would add some snuggles also, but I've tought that in the end I need that all my bones remain intact, so... :P).

This is far the best forum I've been to. Thanks!
And I didn't mention all the burried treasure! Thanks again!

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I absolutely love this site. :D

Thank you Pescado! I love this site too!

I want to say you Thank you too, Pescado. I love this site and I agree with the licence agreement to register here: I love the cheese!  :lol:

Pescado, i have never believed in such things as gods... but you have changed my mind. My altar to you is already in my closet. Scared yet?

This sitemy past bad experiences and some of the shit I've read have totally soured me on the paysite suck buckets. Thanks Pescado for offering us poor college people a place from which to pilfer much needed booty for our games!

Arrrrrrrrrr!!!

oh, well... Here I am.  It was only a matter of time :)

Thank you for this site.  I read through the forums a bit today and realized that my own policies on redistribution were a bit strict, so I changed them...  Today...  I made a special effort.

So, this site and this forum have reached out and touched one more creator.  Long live free shit, with no strings attached.

Insert a bleet, a shrill teenage giggle, and a pointless, sarcastic comment right here.

Thanks for doing this :) I'm a cheap bitch so I refuse to pay...now I'm happy I did. Most of the stuff people make you pay for is shit  I have looked at almost everything on the site so far, and downloaded only a handful, and half of that I deleted :evil:  :roll:

Hey my hunny!  Where have you been?

*huggles Maria*

I do not know about JM, but I am plenty scared. If he offers you Kool Aid, tell him you're not thirsty.

for making the shit previously only available on a pay basis.....thankyou. nice to know i have the choice whether to have any of it or not without thinking about my bank balance  (or lack of it)

trouble is i looked at quite a bit of it yesterday and realised most of it was crap i wouldn't have downloaded even if it were free in the first place

this site however is brilliant and provided me with many hours of amusement and mirth, which after the day i had at work was most welcome... i thankyou all
:lol:

Thank you! I can't even say how glad I am to have stumbled across this page!
I'm ashamed to say that have considered actually paying ppl for their sims content T-T

you have saved me from the shame !!!
Thank you :D :D

Hehe I just read the title of this thread and it said "Official Thank You Dread" hehehe....

Thank you so much for all of the uploading of the donation items!
*kisses everybody's feet and then bows down to them*
Thank you! ARR! :D

Thank you for the booty that my ex-boyfried was soon going to find out *I* was spending all *HIS* money on.

Thank you for destroying paysites, because they piss me off. And my 'Destroy, Burn, Pilage' list is too long already.

Thank you for giving me a place where I can spill out words that would kill BABY FAIRIES. I shed a single tear, and say "Finally, home..."

You guys are AWESOME. I owe you my first-born son.

Hey Pescado: I love the sig!! Everytime I see it I laugh!! Thanks for being such a crazy, blunt, weirdo!! You make my day!! :) And thanks for this site!!

Morgan Sez:
Thanks for have an intelligent [and ALWAYS amusing] forum, where chatspeak isnt tolorated. Happiness all round.

Oh, thanks for the booty, too.

I think I love you guys. After being away from the Sims community for a long, long time and seeing this money-making scene explode makes me sad. This community was borne of people sharing their creations for fun, not profit. When I see new sites pop up with 'V.I.P' sections or as out-and-out subsciption sites selling utter shite, it makes my blood boil.
Good on you guys, I hope the good ship PMBD stays afloat for a long time. :wink:

thank you :)

this site is like christmas to me !
itsalways so exciting .. maybe a bad anology uhhm ...

thanks for the booty its very much appreciated! :D

Thankyou blue!!! because of you and this site, made the last few days fun :) Now I get to sample all the booty :).

Thank you to the world and the fish who created this all. Pescado you rock! And as much as I hate being 12, I can quite happily stay 12 for another year if I'm connected to this! ^^^^^^^^^
I congratulate Pescado for creating this, and I commend BlueSoup and all other filesharers for being awesomely good sports. I also thank everybody who has made me realise why I shouldn't have got a one-month Peggy sub 3 days before discovering this site, and also why my monthly SimChic sub is useless. Thank you all!! Kiitos my friends!

Now Tchan you can save money up for Seasons :) pak, rather than getting more subs.

Thanks for this site! My parents won't let me subscribe to anything so I came here

Can you all stomach another thank-you?  I will try and make it quick and painless.  I Need to thank all involved with this site.  I just wish I would have found this site a long time ago.  I agree, paysites must die!

same here

Good point! :D And SPORE. ^^^^^  :twisted: We AAAAALLLLL have to get SPORE....

Thank you from the bottom of my walnut-sized heart! Mwa *blows kiss* I could not thank you enough for what you're doing!

Thank you from the bottom of my heart for the massive amount of booty I downloaded yesterday.  8)

Many thanks for the heaps of CC I have downloaded (and then mostly deleted, for truly much of it is crap) from your booty coffers. I have sent a token of my appreciation to the dread pirate Bluesoup so that she can obtain more crap for me to download and then delete in how-dare-someone-put-this-shit-up-for-money???? dismay. The download/disgust/delete cycle is practically a whole new game!

As for the few things I have found here that I love and use, my gratitude is of another magnitude entirely, though I assure you my glee in rejecting unworthy pay files is quite genuine.

*waves to pirate ships from the end of the pier*

I completely agree with nixy.  I, too, found myself downloading like a fool, so excited that I finally got some of this great pay content.  Then, go into my game and find out that it truly is crap.  I deleted a great deal of stuff.
I am, however, eternally grateful for the stuff that is good and for this site for sharing with us all.
Paysites must die!

I wanted to say Thanks to all of you because you have opened my eyes to the truth.  You took a lot of heat for doing this but I hope now in the future people will look down on paysite owners and snub them.

Thank you so much for the free goodies

I also just want to add my "thank you" for this wonderful site!!  Thank so much for making a stand in the community!!

OMG th@/\/|< u!!!111oneoneoneoneeleven23269

In all seriousness. I bow to you. Let us pray. Thank you. For the booty.

ARRG! -sails off in pirate ship-

A pirate's life, is a life for me. :P

Thanks for the booty, I managed to grab some the other day but couldnt get much as the site went down lol! nevermind I see you're moving servers :)

Thanks again for all your hard work that you do for us all!

Thought I'd better come in and say 'thankyou' too :D  Even though I haven't grabbed much booty, I've got all the hair I wanted...damn game is so slow now, and it is all your fault!

Oh, and All Pescados Suck.

Not only would I like to thank you all for "the booty" I would like to thank you for creating a forum where practically anything can be discussed w/o being made into swiss cheese.  I truly appreciate being able to give my opinion and openly discuss the Sims community without the fear of pissing off a moderator.  My hat is off to both Pescado and BlueSoup.  Being allowed to be opinionated as I am kicks ass  :D

Cheers to a free thinking forum!

Thank You all for letting me download all the stuff dumbasses had to pay for. It makes me feel naughty :D

Thank you so much!

Thank you, thank you, thank you!  

And did I say thanks?  Thanks!

Thanks so much for the booty, I'm glad I'm not actually able to donate money to paysites as I'd feel sooo ripped off. I downloaded so much from here but most of it was quickly deleted! *cough*Peggy*cough*

This forum is the best part, yays for freedom of speech. :D

Thanks for the booty site,  :D I got a lot of stuff from there before the site went down, and I think it's wonderful there is a place to share "stuff" 8)  like there. I am new to this forum, and still have a subscription for the moment to TSR, so if I can help out in anyway please let me know. I just wasn't too sure where to post this, so aplogies in advance if its in the incorrect thread.  :wink:

Alyssa, nothing's been deleted.  The booty is down.  It'll be back up eventually.

I believe she means that it was quickly deleted as soon as she put it into her own game, because she saw what poor quality it was.  Explaining why she would have felt ripped off had she paid ;)

Ahh.

I haven't yet stopped to thank you guys for setting up this awesome forum. This is pretty much the only forum I come to now(for the sims) because its so piratey and free. Oh yea and the booty's great too. Lol thanks! :D

:D
Thank you

Congratulations and thank you to Pirate Booty on her new Mod status. It's not an easy task to keep a bevy of buccaneers under control, but I'm sure you are up to the task.

ARRR! Cheers for Pirate Booty and thanks also to Bluesoup for sticking with it.

[gushy] Thank you for showing us all the light. I have written you a poem:

You
Rock. [/thatsasgushyasitgetswhenyoureonapiratesite]

Thank you for reopening the forums. I was getting bored in between working and, well, drinking.

I want to say thank you too. I just found this site from a link on another. you guys rock!

i want to say thanks for running this site. i downloaded a ton of hair and i'm glad that you make it available for the broke people like myself who refuse to support paysites. no matter what they say, once you buy something, it's yours and you can do whatever you wish with it.

You are the most adorable pirates with a Robin Hood syndrome that as a Sim player I could ever dream of crossing path with, I'm downloading the impossible and I officially and whole-heartedly thank you for everything you're doing here for the community and against paysites. Cause paysites must be destroyed, arr!  :twisted:

And yeah I know, as pirates we despise words like "adorable" but c'mon, just for once :mrgreen:

thank you for giving me a reality check (lol? this sounds freaky... but my dictionary tells me you say it like this? oh well. dictionaries never lie, do they?) ... after having read like almost the whole forum, i am so happy that i do neither have the time nor the patience to try and get part of any bigger sims 2 community board =D  ...

thank you.

Oh my god! Finally registered myself.

I have spent WAY too much money on Sim donationitems (shame on me!), but thanks to the "The Site That Must Not Be Named" that's over!
I finally downloaded all the things I wanted, but wouldn't want to pay for.
Especially Reflexsims & Rosesims. HAH!

I'm sick of all those creators begging us for money, while they steal each others meshes and create nothing really fancy or original.
My game is overloaded with donationstuff now and I'm looking forward to the new updates.

Thanks mateys! Arrrr! Love you!

I'd like to say thanks for this site and sorry if my niceness in my last post was apparently offensive. I was raised that you should be respectful of people unless they prove they are not worthy of your respect, and although it pisses off other site creators I greatly respect this site. Even though the people here do not make the items they go through a great deal of trouble rezipping and putting up all of these files. I know that and I appreciate all the time and effort that goes into making this site work. I love the stuff here and I have an extremely limited income due to many disabilities, so if this site did not exist I would have no way to get this great items. So thanks to everyone who pays for these and then spends all day zipping them up for us.

P.S thanks so much for adding new stuff from Raon I really love Male hair 9 it has that awesome Anime look.

Thanks for the booty in general, and amileegirl's Peggy Hair reviews was also very helpful. Also, if anyone is interested, images of some of the issues mentioned in that thread are shown here: http://www.bettersimsbureau.com/pictures.html

If you weren't sure what a gap looks like (I wasn't), this reveals the gory truth in full colour. The horror, the horror, pass the rum.

Overall this site is a very worthy project, helpful to old and new Sims(2) people, and full of people who make me have to keep Lysol Wipes near my laptop to wipe up sportle-induced gigglespurts. Well, okay, it only happened like that once. But, hey, I'm not easily amused and can normally contain my glee at finely-tuned wit and spite, so getting even one genuine spit-take out of me is pretty darn good. It's worth having the Wipes nearby in case of future beverage=meets-monitor moments.

Also, I grew up in Savannah, mentioned in Treasure Island and home of the world famous Pirate's House (with shanghai tunnels and cranky, drunken, syphilitic pirate ghosts still present on premises scaring the peanuts out of the staff on a regular basis).

Thank you thank you thank you thank you.
Thank you.  :wink:

Seriously. Not that I couldn't have survived without all the not!shiny paystuff but still.

Thank you so much for sharing all of these wonderful pay downloads!   I felt like it was my birthday when I found out about this wonderful site last week.  Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!  :)



Julie =)

Thank you guys / gals sooo much!

Holy shit THANX! :) Love this site 4 ever! :)

Thank for opening my eyes !

Nouk posted the same guidelines that you follow on her site. I felt like a dumb idiot after two donations to rose and two to peggy (honestly, you can't tell me peggysims is just a hobby site!) - a few days later I discovered the booty
I was shocked at first, but I couldn't help downloading it  :roll:

honestly, there was only one donation I didn't regret - I paid for the skintones on Rensim ... the others (rose, peggy) were just a waist of money

thanks for all you're doing! we owe you very much!

Thank you very much for building this site! I'm very happy here! I love you all! I promise to help you all guys to promote this community! And to fight for the freedom of Custom Contents, and to DESTROY those dumb-ass pay sites!

Pffft, not saying thank you to someone who's already sick of seeing it. So instead I'll say this:

PIG.

Thank you all so much!

For broke college students like myself, it is nice to be able to have access to Sim downloads I wouldn't otherwise be able to get.

Thanks!

Hi!  I haven't been to the booty in a long while & I'm poking through it right now.  Thanks so much for adding the URLs to the booty -- it's making it so much easier to quickly go to the sites, look at pics, etc.   I really appreciate it!

Thanks for the booty and also for opening my eyes!!

Thank God I found this site!I can't afford pay-sites but now I am in heaven  :D Thank you and I really appreciate what you all are doing.

Muchly thanks to all of you here :DDD
I haven't any extra money to spend on Sims 2 content, so this is not only awesome in eliminating bad ..."decisions", but also for getting me some of the really great things out there.

Also, it's also made me feel like less of an uppity ass.
So thanks for that. ~:{D

Thank you!

Thank you for opening peoples eyes to the misjustices in this community and of course for all that pirate treasure!

Thank you for making the booty exist with your time, effort and subscriptions.

Also, thanks for opening my eyes and for making me laugh with some of the funny threads/posts (the ones titled "Look! My hair is as good as Rose's..." and "More Awesome Than You Charging $39.95 a month! WTF?" were priceless.  :lol:  )

First of all I want to thank my beloved spouse for years of support...

Seriously, thank you for this opportunity to thank this site.  :shock:

thank you for making this site so i no longer have to email my best bud files and give her my user name and password! thanks! it saves me money and annoyances, we've been ripping off paysites all along!!!  :lol:

Thank you for this site. I mean it from the bottom of my heart!  :wink:

I wish i knew how to put up an signature...

_____

i feel great thanks.

Hi Amazone,

Go to the top of the page and click on Profile.  You'll be taken to a page where you could edit your profile information, including your signature. :)

sorry and thank you!

Thank you

Thank you for all of your time and money that you have all put into making the booty!

Thank you for the buried treasure!   This the best.   :D
Thanks to all that run it and who founded it!

Thanks for this site. I wish I'd found it sooner. I had a similar idea one morning but I just couldn't figure out how to get it started. I remember one of my ideas was to have people subscribe to it.  :lol: Oh, yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense. :P

I'm glad I don't have to do that.

I suppose I must post an official thank you, like a good newbie. THANK YOU! I may not download as much as I ought to, but lurking here has been the most fun part of the weekend. Y'all are too funny! :lol:  :)

Thank you , thank you ,thank you sooo much for this site.  And thank to all moderators ,founders ! I Love you all! I wish I had found it sooner. Thx again  :D

Thank you so much for telling people the truth about paysite makers! And secondly, thank you REALLY much for giving that damn pay stuff for us all for free.  :D You deserve a Nobel prize for that. ;)

I just love this site and the forum, I must say. So adorable and bitter.

I had stopped playing, but when I found this place I got inspired to reinstall my games. I thought finally someone has some balls!!!
My second thought was YoHoHo Motherfuckers! LMAO (I'm kind of weird) :oops:  Can I use that for a sig or is it a tad to graphic?

And to think I foolishly bought into that subscription crap. Viva la revolution! Thanks for this site. :twisted:

Thank you so much for this website!

Pay sites have gone far enough and it makes me upset!! Thank you so,so much for this site. ;)

I'm so happy happy happy happy happy I found this site! :D  For alot of reasons. Not only is this place cool, audacious and terribly piratey - it warms the inner part of my being to a supernova level! Thankyou for letting in some ocean air into the sims2 community! Yarr Matey!  :wink:

Takk! Og ha en god dag:)

(thanks, and have a nice day).

Yes, I am thankful i found this place.

It let me confirm what I'd believed all along, that the few pay items I almost considered getting [ if they were ever free ], weren't worth my space.

And I've gotten lots of rum. :D

Arrrr!

um...thank you?

Avast Ye Scurvy Dogs!

ditto all the thanks above. this site is the best :D

OH GOD!!!! THANK YOU! GRACIAS!!!!
You give us the key to paradise here! You are AWSOME!!!!!
Than you thank you!!!!
I think it was time that some one do something about this! Have you read the new creators policy... IS A JOKE!
I love to be on a site for revels!
I love you guys!
Yunaleska!

Thanks for all the stuff, I think soon my DL folder might explode. I am trying so hard to keep it under 5GB, But I don't know how long that will last. I have everything compressed too.

Thank you for making this site.  Seriously.  Just made my day when I saw this site.

I landed upon this site from http://digitalperversion.net/ today and I have to say that I am glad I did.

Paysites.....where's a cannon when you need them to destroy them?  I didn't know there was THAT many that forced everyone to "donate" to them to get a "donation" download.  

Hooray for filesharing :P

THANK YOU!!! (x1000000000000000000000)

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/katymouse_album/jug-rum-two-sizes-01-s.jpg)

thank ye for the company as well as for the booty
arrr!

TY Fishy Fish...and btw

(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/1765/19604441mj7.jpg)

Thank you guys for this website and all the hard work you put into it.

Just today i found out about this place, by accident, i bumped on Penny's signature on S2C... I would like to thank the creator of this site SO much because some of the stuff i really liked on some sites, and i was ready to subscribe, but paypal and other internet banks don't support my country, so thank you so much for allowing me, the regular, mortal sim fan have this stuff.  :D

Oh and a big chunky thank you to people that donate files to you, obviously all this wouldn't have happened if someone didnt take money from their own pockets and buy this stuff so they can share it. :p


~DeeDee~

I said thank you once, and I am saying it again, cause this place is awesome, thank you for bringing us the stuff.  Pirates Rule!

i would like to say thank you for the prompt updating - i am especially impressed by the Raon sims updates - the past few, by the time i knew there was one, it was up in the booty. Many heartfelt thanks to whoever is shelling out the cash for them. (And of course hec, gwen, etc for actually putting it in the booty, and keeping it organized.)

Rum all around! Coconut rum - it tastes better. ;)

As soon as I found this site I literally got out of my chair and danced. It made my day to see how someone can be so damn kind and offer paysite stuff to people for free and attempt to put a stop on them. =)

I love you guys. That is all.

No it isn't. I was thisclose to talking myself into believing that it was okay to cough up ten freaking bucks for PeggySims to get one stupid hair mesh my OCD brain really wanted.

Nooooooo! I'm allergic to coconut! I'll take the rum, you take the coconut, ok? And yes, I do thank each and every person who helps with the booty, even if I do have such a fat download folder that I need to do liposuction on the fucking thing... Thanks!

Thank you for site :wink:

(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4541/1000044ge8.th.jpg) (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1000044ge8.jpg)

tabea

Thank YOU for kitteh!

(Iz cute.)

 :lol:

THANK YOU <3

So glad to finally run into a place that shares the pay stuff for free. I just knew there had to be people out there who were sharing this for the love of the game and I'm glad to have finally found you guys.  

Keep fighting the war and we'll keep supporting you.

Just going to add my thanks.  If this site didn't exist, I'd still be in the dark.  

Also just took my first look at the booty.  It's organized so well!  That is quite amazing in itself.  If I was going to pay anyone anymore, it would be you guys. ;)

I want to thank you for the booty!You guys just prevented me from stealing my father's credit card,lol  :oops:

I remembered discussing with my brother bout PayPal and stuff and how easily i can donate so i can,erm,have those hairs i wanted from a certain site *cough* which,i've been aiming for a loooong time,he pointed out that they were only pixels and not worth paying cash for,i reminded him that he nearly beg our father to buy 'Gold' for his World Of Warcraft account (jeez),he shut up after that  :roll:
Then on the same day,i read a certain post that leads me here and i nearly faint when i saw the hidden treasures  :wink:

you guys rock,pirates rulez! :P thank you again

I haven't said thank you in awhile, and I want everyone to know that I loooooove them.  *prance*

I found this site earlier today, and I just HAD to thank you (everyone) for everything you're doing here.  I've struggled against donating to paysites for almost a year now.  Recently enough, I was trying to first convince myself that it wasn't too bad to pay TSR about ten dollars for two months of subscriptions, that it was even sort of reasonable.  I was working on an argument to convince my Mom (who holds the funds of the family) that it was a worthy investment.  And that was just for TSR, I still had to come up with arguments for Peggy, Rose, and RaonJena.  

So thank you.  You've saved me money, and arguing, and I'm in love with your site.  Thank you, thank you, thank you.

yay! its good to see new pirates finding the booty (almost as good as a fresh hot grilled cheese sandwich on seed bread with cheddar cheese and chili mayo... but i digress)

new pirates please spread the word. and don't forget tell your friends about grilled cheese. all you'll get here is RUM. want some?

 :lol:

This site rocks, I've cancelled my sub with TSR today, they won't be getting another penny out of me. I used to think paysites were ok, until I found this place.......now I know better

Thanks PMBD :wink:

OMG!!!!! You sounded like one of those freakin' Proactiv commercials.

That is all =|

what's Proactiv?

and what did you do with fluffy?

Acne medication.

The opposite of conactive...

Thank you for doing something about an issue which has pissed me off since the Sim 1 days and for helping my downloads folder grow to an unnatural size!

While destroying paysites he broke his paw. He's been put in the kennels for a while. Plus Rosario is sexier.


 :roll: I forgot I ever posted in this thread.

I would like to thank Nouk for all the awesome hairs, the petition, and just being Nouk!
I would like to thank Hebcusus for not killing me with her axe on a daily basis and her & Gwen's hard work to this site and the luscious booty!
Red Love for the amazingly sexy Avatar
Paden for her heart felt prayer to the crazy lady and for making me laugh when I needed it most
Pescado for being a complete jack ass and pissing off all the paysites
Calalily for scarring the shit outta me when I first saw her avatar
Red Duckie for having an avatar with my vibrator on it. (what you don't have a rubber duckie vibrator?)

Okay it's getting too long here... Thank you all for doing what you do to make TSR cry and make the rest of the paysites tremble or at least laugh.

I just wanted to thank everyone who had something to do with this site.  I don't know all of your names but you know who you are.

I think what you're doing is great work and even though I've been back and forth with the 'Two wrongs don't make a right' ideal, after reading your mission statement and the reasons behind the madness, I have come to realize that EA hasn't done anything about it (and probably won't) so it's up to us, The Community, to take matters into our own hands because we won't put up with this shit anymore.

I wholeheartedly agree with all of your points because I too have suffered.  Although I have never actually paid for any CC or made a subscription on a paysite I have wanted to (pined away actually) for the longest while, especially when I saw Peggy's creations, but at the time, Paypal did not support my country so I had to do without, and was forced to drool all over my keyboard at content I could never have.

Thank God for that.

Now I know better and I want to thank you all for opening my eyes, educating me and saving my money (since Paypal does accept my country now [about time]).

Thank you thank you thank you! :D I have hated paysites ever since Sims 1....and I never once believed these people weren't making a profit from their sites.I think we pay enough to simply buy the games themselves....being forced to pay for custom content is ridiculous and unfair........and good on you,PMBD,for making all these files available to everyone.I hope this site is around for a long,long time.

Thank you all for this site! <3 Now I don't have to feel (overly) bad about being poor.

This is incredible, I stumbed upon this site yesterday. I stayed up til 2 in the morning downloading all those darn meshes I could never have before... just awesome.

In my long history of playing the sims with custom content, I have had an uncountable amount of nightmares of trying to get free content and recolors, but finding more and more are now linked to pay meshes.

So, this is the mesh hunter saying thank you much and let me know if I can help out the site in any way. I work in R&D at a sofware company and play the Sims 2 in my free time--if I am not busy finding content and downloading it from modthesims2.com etc. I promise to not pay for TSR anymore unless it's to help the cause!

Dawn

So I'm an ex-donator to several pay sites, but no more.  I never subbed to the evil empire that is TSR, thank god, but my friend did, and I'm glad I've shown her the light as well.

Funny, now that I know about the booty, I really don't want anything from it.  There are so many good, free creators out there (NOUK!!!) that I don't even want the pay stuff anymore, no matter how nice it is.

All I must say, is thank god I followed a link from the great paysite debate thread on s2c, because I'm glad to find others are ready to stand up for what is right and fair when EA just sits on their thumbs, probably taking bets on the paysite war.

Sarafina, I think I know how you feel.  I've only paid for a few things here and there for The Sims 2.  There were some things I just drooled over, but couldn't afford it or didn't want to pay for a subscription just to get one lousy file.  Then I discovered the booty, but at this point I haven't actually downloaded anything from it.  It just doesn't seem worth drooling over anymore.  

Or maybe my play style just changed and I simply don't need that stuff anymore.  Who knows?

Thanks for the existence of this site. I once fell into the paysite trap, and never again will I return. (It was SimsConnection, by the way.)

Hey, everyone loves
(http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/cats/moarfight.jpg).

Especially you, dear Pes, especially you!

(http://icanhascheezburger.wordpress.com/files/2007/09/128297893467970000share.jpg) (http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/09/13/share/)

Paysites are greedy.

THANK YOU pirates!

ARGH!!! My eyes. My eyes.

Saphyriana, if you ever come back, take those damn colour tags out. This is not kindergarten. Please learn to post in a less 12 manner.

I agree with the one of the sword made of feathers! I'm not even hung over but maaaaaaaaaaaaan! That made my eyes hurt. And not going to mention my balls.

Would you scratch your goddamned balls Paden?  :lol:  For god sake - and get some calomine lotion.  :lol:

This is my first post in this thread, and so the obligatory thank you.  I always figured no one read it, so I didn't bother.  Now I see at least Pescado does - so Pescado thank you very very much.  I will endeavour to provide you with much MOAR FIGHT as is befitting your forums.

I'm rubbing my eyeBALLS now, those are the ones that've been bugging me. The roof leaked, and mold set in, the landlord won't do jack or shit about fixing the problem and we've not got the money to move and wouldn't you know it, I'm allergic to mold, so my (eye)BALLS itch! Finally, someone cares! Lol! Yeah right! Love you too, cala!

You need to call your Board of Health.  Mold kills, don't matter if you are allergic or not.  We had a place fill up with mold, the board of health told me to get out right away.  This is a serious health threat to you and yours.  Hope it gets taken care of soon

Thanks y'all for this site ~ found by accident  :)  but a very happy one :D

Okay, just going to make it quick.  Been lurking long time, finally got my courage together today to join the scary pirates (though I have always been one of you at heart) so thank you to all of you for what you do here.  Thanks Pescado for making a place for everyone and for your awesome hacks.  I have spent too much in the past paying for what should be free (and been screwed too many times by finding out after spending the money that the files are crap).  Lesson learned.  Pass the rum.  I've got cookies.   :D

*lurk mode off*

Many thanks to all for the wonderful service you provide here.

Thanks also for the information/advice alot of you share in your posts (in between the awesome kitty macros). By reading the posts regarding what makes cc good vs bad, I have learned much about the "why" certain cc looks bad in game. Before I would simply delete the stuff only to realize I was continuing to grab the same sort of crap (because it was a pretty pretty picture :roll: ). Now though, when looking for cc, I am more aware of the quality creators/creations rather than letting the pretty pictures and sparklies blind me.

Thanks again!

Aside from the "ditto what everyone said" thing, I'll add that in days long past, I paid for subscriptions to a couple of paysites before I knew better (I'm talking, pre-University days, so it was eons in Internet years), and while the prices were low, I learned pretty quickly that they weren't worth it.

Fast forward to a few months ago, when the computer I've had for six years finally went to Data Heaven, taking with it all that CC I paid for, plus all the free stuff I'd found after I'd grown older and wiser in the ways of custom content. I missed some of the stuff I'd paid for back in the day, but not enough to want to subscribe all over again, particularly after begging, borrowing and stealing to get a new computer. And so, I grumbled.

I had been following the paysite debates over at MTS2 in lurk-mode, but when I got my new computer, all the threads had been closed, and nobody said nothin' about nothin' anymore, as far as I could see. I had hoped to actually contribute to the venture before the Great Computer Collapse, but nothing was being said about it when I got back online. So, I sighed.

And then some wonderful soul (I forget who) posted a link to this site at MTS2 when someone else asked for a mesh from some pay site or other, and behold, the pretty CC that I missed so badly was here, too, along with some truly hideous CC I'm glad I never saw before.

So bless all o' yer scurvy little hearts. You probably saved my marriage, because my husband was getting sick of hearing me rant about how uncool it was to have to pay for stuff that should have been free. And now, enough of this rambling, where do I get fitted for a peg leg on this here ship?

Oh, well done ShipsKat, spunkysim, SmilingSweetly and dasha. Have a bottle o'rum each. It's nice that people are using the welcome thread, but this is the one you're supposed to use.

When you're ready, (ie finished your rum) we'll do a little jig and supervise the walking of the plank for all the transgressors.

Thanks for the windkeeper halloween stuff in the booty. Here's to hoping to finding more good holiday themes there.

Thanks! I found this site a few days ago, and dowloaded a bunch of goodies while reading about all of the behind-the-scenes crap I never knew was going on.

I'm currently jobless (tried applying to a few places for that 'crappy first job', but so far things haven't worked out thanks to my having no job experience.. I can't decide whether that's ironic or just moronic..) with a brother who's going through college ATM (and the possibility of myself not being able to afford going at all..), and so I'm basically a pathetic deadbeat at the moment with little to do aside from playing the Sims and feeling like a moocher. >_>

Any pay stuff I've been able to 'afford' has been what I can beg my mom to let me get, which has been a month's subscription to peggy and raonsims, one time each over the past year or so.. Anyhoo. I've always wanted the newer peggy and rose hairs, but I felt bad enough asking for the things I already have, so I decided I'd just have to be happy with what I've got.

Then I was looking through the forums at (insert free site who's name I will not reveal because I don't want to be a snitch) to see if they had any plans to do some of their clothing on BB meshes, and I randomly found a link here.

Needless to say, I was surprised and somewhat skeptical that such a place could exist! After I realized it wasn't just a crazy dream, I started to feel a little dirty.. But after my internal ethical dilemma, I decided to follow my gut. Sorry paysite people! I'm sure the money you're getting from the original PMBD folks who subscribe to upload is more than enough to pay for your bandwidth anyway..

So, to make a long story short (too late!), thanks for letting people without income access the pretty.

ok, as you are a newbie i should direct you to the FAQ http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/viewtopic.php?t=1104 a good piece of advice...Lurk...and dont post any new threads (like hi or hello) because these pirates will tear you a new one. And i suggest if you MUST introduce yourself do it here: http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/viewtopic.php?t=1302

(dont feel bad or sorry for the paysites!! everyone should share)

if you be a good pirate and follow the rules the booty gods will shine on you!!  :) (I learnt the hard way)

and i would also like to thank BlueSoup for this good thread!

I don't think it will be much of a problem.  The main point of the post was the gratitude, and that is what this thread is for.  I would still encourage I Lost My Eyepatch to introduce himself at the appropriate thread though.

Tim

:( i didnt really mean any harm, i was just trying to point him in the right direction to prevent a lolcat outbreak on a newbie. :oops:

No harm done!

Just ignore Tim.
He's flexing his masculinity. He has too. The other day he said By Golly.
He may be feeling a little testosterone-less.  :lol:

Just kidding Dear! You know I lubs my internetz hubbie.

Nature_Girl--No harm done.  I have some pretty new macros and an itching to use them.  So if I could justify it I would have let them fly.

ry--I am man!  Hear me roar!  Join me in the cave and we can restore any testosterone problems I'm having in a hurry!

Tim

Give the pirate a break.
This is the original place to introduce yourself. The other thread was started because people started making their own threads and the title of this was wasn't attracting non-FAQ-reading n00bs.

Saying hi is a perfectly fine thing to do in this thread.

Thanks for the advice, guys. :D

I'll head over there now and introduce myself (which would actually be a 'herself', not a 'himself', :wink: )..

I just wanted to mention that you guys have been influencing me a great deal. I've been participating in a contest called NaBloPoMo (National Blog Posting Month), wherein participants post something to their blog every day during the month of November.

This was my entry for today: http://www.crime-city.org/blog/2007/11/09/sims-2-owns-my-soul/

Maybe with all the extra eyes on everyone's blogs this month, I'll catch the attention of some Sims2 players and get the word out.

*drags Tim to the cave and gives him a dose of testosterone*

WEWT!  :oops:  :lol:

Thanks for everything, everybody. EveryI speaks too much of the word every.

hya...not sure if you are the evil deviants who make my sim playing a lot better but if you are (I followed a link from the podium) then bare that butt and let me smoooch it.
And i am not gay (not that there is anything wrong with it). I'm actually kind of new to sims 2 (I had all of sims 1 ep). I thought sims 2 was basically just a posh version of sims 1 so i never bothered to buy it...then saw a friend with the game and had to get it.
without the hacks and mods though this game would be frustrating as i found that hunger, energy etc just went down too fast and a sim getting up at six was napping by 2pm or in bed for the night by 6pm.
So i really dont know if i am thanking the right people or not but you know so what lolololol

Smile

nice to be here.
Oh and did you hear about the crazy religious guys just started bashing sim mods like the whoohoo? I'll see if i can find a link. this is just last couple of days that it happened. I mouthed off to them lol then i went back to playing sims.

Ouch
people are grateful...try to show a little class when acknowledging or you are as bad as all the elitist types that make people pay for this shite.
i dont want to offend anyone but had i read that post first i would have thought screw this. this numpty bint is just too miserable.

think about it....no one owes anyone anything. if you pull some downloads and make the free wonderful but dont start getting a big head over it...because that suxks too.

Um, Dude, seriously, she's not here any more. Kind of a waste of your time for the lecture, no matter how well meant we know it was. Enjoy the booty, cause you can bet the rest of us do!

Paden, but at least he READ the entire thread which is more than most noobs.  I had forgotten all about Blue Soup and teh drama.  I'm sure Ry has the screenies.

Nope, but I bet I could get them if I tried hard enough.  :lol:

I found this site two nights ago by clicking one sites random button, it wasn't even labeled.  I want to thank the people who buy the downloads, you guys are truly modern day robin hoods.  Death to paysites!  :D

Adding my name to the pile. Was directed here from Lj and I think I'm in love.

Very, very confused, but somewhat in love.

Don't be confused. To get a handle on the legal and ethical issues, go to Money Better Spent. Then read our FAQ. And then... have fun. And rum. Lotsa rum. And don't let Capn Jojoba steal it from you.   :D

Oh Hecubus, what do you take me for?  :cry: O that comment has wounded me so, the only way to repair my hurt feelings is with rum.... *steals it* Muwahaha, well you did tempt me so with that!

*swipes bottle from JoFred*

You can haz no rum. All your rum are belong to nouks av!
Silly lady... :lol:

*smites RY with a broom*

Do not swipe my rum from me, schweinebacke arschgeige!

I just wanted to add my thankyou and an ARR!

I'd like to say thanks to you guys! This is really the best sims site ever! :D

I would also like to thank you guys from the bottom of my heart for this site.  I play male sims more than females so it's rarely worth my money for me to pay a subscription to gain access to donation hair, given that less than half of the custom hairs are for males and half again of those aren't my cup of tea.  

So thank you, thank you, and thank you again for enabling us to pick what we want without paying for crap that we don't want!

After finally finding the courage to join this bunch of dirty and constantly drunk pirate scum, I just wanted to say, how awesome you are.

Well... Now that this issue is settled... uhm... Continue with whatever you were doing before my interruption.

I believe you're referring to Pooki.

Yes, she's a stinky, smelly mess, but we still....yes, she's a stinky, smelly mess.

Pppppbbbbttttt! To you to Snarky.   :P

just wanted to stop in and say thank you! it's so nice that alot of other people agree with me about paysites... i think this is such a wonderful idea! Arrr!

*passes around fresh cookies from the oven--we have four kinds tonight:  oatmeal, mocha, almond and pecan--help yourself!*

(plus it keeps me from eating all of them  :roll: )

Oh, and this site is great.  Thanks to everyone who works hard to keep it up and running  :D

I don't know what you said, rotten ass!  :lol:
But don't hit the Ry with a broom! Ouchies.  :cry:
Hit me with a whip, mmmhmmm...OOOOO BABAY!

I decline, and offer Ash in my place  :D Enjoy! Muwhahahaa...Beware though, he has fangs...

Shit, I'll take him!  :lol:
Ash, c'mere! Gots somefin for ya! :P

:::::stands in front of Ash::::

Oh, no you don't!!!

Hm *ponders and observes*

RY, I take back my earlier proposition - which you should have seen coming really, for I am a pirate - hardly hold onto deals now would I  :wink:

*steals Ash and rum*   8)

*wench is jealous* Not stealworthy eh?  :lol:

I've been lurking here for quite a while and finally decided to register. I LOVE this forum and all you who made the booty possible! Besides, you people keep me up all night because I got to read all these hilarious threads... thank you! (*phew* first post done)

Very nice first post.  Welcome!  :D

Lol..
I really want to say thank you when I visited this site for the 1st time...
Thank you so much everyone! :D

Thank you to the assholes and bitches who make the site what it is :)

Seriously, it's the best place to vent all the paysite anger.

Thank you!

Passes out rum and cookies to all  :wink:

*chomps on a cookie*


Arr!

I want to thank everyone too... because.. well... virtual cookies are better than no cookies :)

I've also decided to stop lurking long enough to come out and say Thanks.

So...thanks.  ;D I totally appreciate what you all do here, and hopefully I can help out as well in the near future.

Hey Tique, I love your avatar!   8)

I, too, have come out of the lurking mode.

You are fan-f***in-tastic!!  I thought the booty was great but the laughs have been even better!!  

Thank you.  I will never pay a paysite again.

I have also been a lurker for some time now. Found out about this site from someone who posted a reply on MTS2, and its now a link in my favourites. I always check to see whats been updated.

Wanted to say thanks to everyone who makes this site work. I hate paysites with a passion, always have, always will. This site is fantastic!!! Thank you! :D

I've been a lurker for a while and decided to register.
A big thank you for sharing this stuff.

Well the fact that I'm posting here would suggest that I'm just gonna say thanks.. so yus.. Thanks  :)

I can't seem to find the intro thread, if there is one, so I thought I'd just stop by here and say ...THANK YOU to all the donators who made it possible to have that cute Sims knick knack I've always wanted but couldn't get because I don't have a credit card. Now can someone direct me to the rum?

AdrianaLuna, the thread you were looking for is here (http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/index.php/topic,1302.0.html), but, this one works too.  Welcome to the phorum.  Have some rum and cookies.  ;D

ETA:  Thank you so much for not starting a new thread even though you couldn't locate an intro thread.  I think you are going to fit in nicely here.

 ;D Thanks

Well, I feel that I really must say Thank You! for the burst of bubbling joy that escapes my lips each time I download something that would otherwise cost me duckets, which I do not have to waste on gaming. Pay sites must die, ye scurvy pirates!

Thanks a lot, folks. I'm sure it's hard work subbing and then hosting all of the files here. I appreciate your hard work and dedication. During TS1 days, I once subbed to TSR. The massive confusion that is TSR makes finding something you want an hours-long process. That was a short sub for me. And I'll never subscribe anywhere else again. Muchas gracias!

Well many thanks to everybody who makes the Booty what it is.

I love this site....Never has my downloads folder been so full, never have my Sims lived in such luxury, and never has my game taken so long to load....What better time to drink the rum?!?

Thanks for keeping it free!
I can hardly imagine how much work it is to argue and convince, get the files (never forget: those were PAY items, so someone actually had to spend money), organize the place, keep the trolls out, and so on.
Pirates are the best!

Your english is not bad - good on you for learning it so well.  :) I'm sure the pirates are glad to know they're helping you.  ;D

Danke schon!
Dziekuje!
Muchas Gracias!
Merci Beaucoup!
Shukran!

and uh....
Domo Arigato!  ;D

You have learned well young one.  Welcome. :D

*worships the ground upon which you walk* This place is beyond amazing. You're all superheroes, or something.

Gratis...

Arr! Thank you for everything pirates. ;D

Did I say thank you yet? Probably not, but doesn't hurt to offer again.

I'd like to thank all the pirates for all of their hard work, time, effort, into making all of this possible and the risks they take. Also, for the information they collect (my main reason for coming here day after day.) I especially enjoy the sense of humor they provide as well.  ;D

Drinks all around!

I've been lurking for a while, but today I registered and the first thin I wanted to say was: Thank you!  8)
I really appreciate what you are doing for the sims2 community, and the spirit of this forum. (also the rum is fantastic, I have heard... ;) )

thank you for bringing much amusement to my life these past few days (cos that's how long it took me to read the tsr and poor atwat threads)
btw is she colourblind (no offence to anyone who is sorry) but i did have to ask
i simply love the way you guy's and the say it like it is attitude
i found out about this site and sfv from anova forum
i'm sad that i was too late to join sfv but i am a proud member of sims cave and now i is a pirate
thanks again

luv tjae

Oh you've heard the rum is fantastic 'ave you?

*hugs rum bottle* It's a filthy filthy lie!

No.. ere have some!

:D *passes rum to the grateful including herself!*

Hey, thanks a lot, just the right time! *giggles because of the warm fuzzy feeling inside her stomach*  :D

This site is too good to be true...  wheres the donate button?  ;D

thank all of you

Here's the info: http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/index.php/topic,1291.0.html (http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/index.php/topic,1291.0.html)  :)

I would go on and on and on with the "thank yous", but unfortunately I'm not a total tool.  :D However, I can sez "thank you very much" for the booty and everyone who pilfered it. Down with paysites!

Hey PMBD! Love you guys! I've found more eye-catching free alternatives! And they don't make my computer explode either. :)

If you were a person, I'd say you'd make me all hot and bothered. XD

You lucky little download whores.  :D 


Would you and the phorum like to be alone for a minute?  :o  :D

Maybe... :X ... let me sleep on it...  :D

After reading that I keep picturing your avatar making out with a computer, not a good image.

I dont understand why bluesoup is so nasty to people who just want to show how grateful they are to the booty, whats so wrong with that?

I read the FAQ (while drinking rum) it was very funny.    The people on this site are such a contradiction, much of the FAQ is sensible nd then there is the rest.  Does it really matter if someone new gets it wrong, does it warrant such backlash, while I agree with your policy. I'm not sure I agee with your response.  Do you think its funny to have a go at people whose first language is'nt Englsh or who are educationally challenged?

However, I have enjoyed reading the different forums.  I do think pay sites should be destroyed but maybe you could be less virulant in your response (not including trolls). I came across this site from Numenor I visited his site and he had a page on the war and so I found this site. I was so pleased to be able to get CC that I didnt have the money to pay for.  But you could be kinder to us newbies

Tee hee! I like the way Bluesoup is getting the blame for 'nastiness to n00bs' :D

It's all Bluesoup's fault!

thx 4 getting me stuff 4 free but also i haet u all n u r meen
btw im not rilly that other guy im new n im just testing ur responses kuz ur funnee



 ::)

Pirate life is not for the fluffy cotton filled masses.

You don't like it, you don't have to stick around. We ain't fluffy bunny huggers that give a shit if your pwecious feewing gets hurt or we damage your self of steam. We are how we are and we ain't gonna change just because someone that walked in the door ten minutes stamps their widdle feets and demands dat we don't be so mean to da poor widdle n00bs. Go through half of what we have here and you may get the point. Read the damn history of all of the site, all of the threads and maybe you'll get a hint without us having to take brick bats to yer damn head. And yeah, I'm pissy as all hell right now so don't push me.

Clearly, Bluesoup has failed us! You must not!

(Someone had to say it...  ;D)

Thanks for all the free stuff.  :-*

And besides, apparently some people find this forum quite, shall we say, stimulating.

*AhemfwayAhem*

Someone said they didn't like thank you's but I'm thanking you anyway.  For years during the Sims 1 stage, I felt it was wrong to 'take' the pay creations.  I didn't like the paysites from the very start but I respected the paysite creators' wishes.  But after 6 years or so of Simness I got tired of the high faluting attitude of the paysites and I have come here, bowed down, and taken the booty.  Once you give in, there's no going back.  Yay!!!

We like the thank you's in this thread, this is the only place you won't get whacked with a cat macro for it. A water balloon if someone is feeling like a stinker, but no cat macros...

Eh...a few steps lower than heaven  ::) ....but nonetheless, we're glad you found us.

Oh, there are times when I feel angelic, but being a little devil can be so much more fun!

Ok, what can I say? I think thank you would be good...The site is, I can’t describe it, fantastic!! :-*

Thank you thank you thank you thank you and so on to all of the fabulous pirates here.  :D

I hardly even look at the updates anymore because the threads are funny as hell. I lurk and LMAO for hours and forget to play the game. Tanks for everyting!  ;D

Welcome to all of you!


Sadly, you'll find most of it is pure crap-and-gaps and then you'll purge those files, then you'll rant because people actually paid for that junk, then you'll be glad you didn't. Then, you will just bitch about anyone selling files. It's like the stages of grief....but stages of downloading booty. We all go through it.

Holy cow, I stumbled upon this website accidentally late last night, and I am so very, very glad I did. All of the work you guys do is truly nothing short of outstanding. Thank you all very much, and I hope you're all tolerant people, as I get confused from time to time as to where some things go. ^^;

I like to thank you all from the bottom of my specimen jar. Cheers

LOL heres another thank you. I cant recall how i found your wonderful plundering site, but Ive continued to pass it along to everyone i know, that plays, and w/o you, my gaming would be boring, and unamusing. thank you!




arg! matey!

**plunders** ;D

I found this place last night, and spent 5 hours straight reading some really funny threads, then I downloaded about 10,000 pay files that I wanted but didn't want to pay for so now i'm happy!!  :D

jilly, after you play your game, come back and report how many of those 10,000 paysite downloads you STILL have in your game. I believe you will have deleted a shit-load because of poor quality.

And...welcome to the phorum!

I'm just in awe imagining the system crash she could get from having all of that garbage in her game.

I pretty much went through those stages. I wasted hours downloading those fantabulous ;) Peggy hairs on my dial up connection only to discover the horrors of Head Gap! :o Then I discovered all of the awesome free (and legal) creators

I was kidding though.  Almost all the stuff I hate

I got a few peggy hairs, the aquarium set from Windkeeper over on TSR, loaded my game, looked it all over and went 'delete'  Considering I'm ultra picky even on free stuff, I didn't see any reason to keep the crappy paystuff.

[[Windkeeper's aquarium stuff looked nice - but the fish were of course not animated :P]]

This is the best service I have ever seen. Thanks,and the booty ownz!

Damn it, I hate fish that don't move around in the tank after you buy them... And the pet store doesn't accept returns :-\

:D

I'd like to thank you guys for all the effort and hard work you do to maintain this site. :) Just keeps getting better and better if you ask me. I've been here for quite some time now and I don't think I've said thank you. Well, anyway, thank you again and I hope you guys never get tired of providing booty.  ;D

Thank you for opening the eyes of the many who, like me, were fooled by the lie that pay is better. I delete 99% of the stuff I download. :)

Thank You guys for putting all this effort and hard work into the booty. And thank you for educating people on which is better, free or pay. Of course free is better ;D.
Now we can have pay stuff, and daum stuff!
http://daum.mustbedestroyed.org/

Sarafina, Millie, thank you for posting links to the Sim Store Stuff. Danke! :-*

I bookmarked the daum stuff, this could be interesting.

That link has been floating around GOS for a couple of days  ;)

I'm all about free creator's rights, but, Daum is trying to be exclusive and not share with everyone. I bet they're all butthurt over this.

But the butthurt is what makes it so GOOD!  :D

I've seen a couple of 'adult' websites that saying would apply to...

 :D

I got some of the hairs - then promptly forgot to look at them and put a Nouk hair on my sim O.o

But I'm hopeful on the male hair.  There just isn't enough good male hair and its almost enough to make me try making those next. O.o

The daum stuff looks pretty, but I'm starting small.

    ;)  SHANK YOU!!

Don't know where in the world you're from Melissa, but *ahem* round here the term shank generally refers to wanking someone off. Unless, of course, you meant that  :D

Where I'm from it means to stab someone in the back with a crudely made blade (also called a "shank" and generally only in prison) or to betray someone in some dreadful fashion (as in "being stabbed in the back"). If nothing else, either definition certainly raises a host of intriguing and disturbing questions about Melissa :D.

Over here, the knife thing, or to betray them, is to shaft them. Course, that also means shag them. It gets confusing unless you've lived here all of your life  :D

Heh, we use both those meanings as well for "shaft" (although the sexual meaning is certainly less common, as is the second meaning I gave for "shank"). "Shaft" has another slang meaning as well around these parts (well, okay, it has several) in relation to being forced to pick up or do some unpleasant activity that no one else wanted (e.g. Employee A: "Fred had to work the graveyard shift all weekend" Employee B: "Oh, too bad. He totally got shafted"). It's somewhat connected to the betrayal meaning, but can also be used when no one is at fault and the bad thing is merely due to a sequence of events.

lol Well last time I checked we are pirates; and it was meant to be funny! So maybe you should check on "Lightning up" or "Relaxing"; before going into the dictionary and posting the meaning without taking in consideration of the fact that someone could just be simply posting a "Thank you" in a manner which they saw no harm doing! You know what? Maybe it is me who should relax and take in consideration the fact that you both have very well taken the consideration that I meant no harm and you are trying to break the ice with me(I am blushing with embarrassment); and if you got hurt over the fact that someone was trying to break the ice and say "Thank you" in their own way; let me apologize for my poor choice of words and humor. I  ensure you that my intention was not to offend or "stab anyone in the back"! I did not join this forum to betray or hurt anyone; I was merely trying to be funny with my comment.  Again; I apologize for my poor choice of words and humor. I will make sure to TRY not to use what I think is humor in any post I make again. I will be straight forward and blunt with my posts or comments in the future. Where I am from is no concern to you.....unless you want to talk? /wink  :-*   <------was meant to be funny  ;D   I am from a place called America, I am sure you can tell by my poor writing skills and my ignorance that most Americans are proud of; and who is to blame "me?" Nahh..the government is; that is my story and I am sticking to it! <3  Thank you for everything. <3

Melisssa - that was truly a work of art.  You included blaming others and apologising.  Kudos!  :D

Melissa, I was having a joke with you. You'd know if I was being nasty  :P

I sometimes use "shanksyoushanksyoushanksyou" when I feel, the person needs to be revered for their generosity. It's incredibly dated, back when people bowed and shuffled their thanks as they walked backwards. God I was so weird in University, I made the stupidest shit up.

Shank? Isn't that Lamb? And as for stabbing...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v115/deelink/Forum%20Pics/shiv.jpg)

:P

Melissa. Excuse me? I am an American and in no way do I have poor writing skills that I am proud of. I post very clearly and succinctly and am damn happy with it. Although, I am known to sink to lolcat-ese or just talk like plain people. I didn't get most of my education at  school, my parents taught me at home quite a bit about how to use words. So, relax, take a weight off, have some bon bons and Midol, they come in handy when troll spawning time draws nigh.

 

 :D Paden<3 your funny! I think maybe you should follow your own advice on that "pms therapy" you shared  ;)!  I never take those poison pills and eat that kind of junk it tends to fog your mind and effect the way your mind and body function; as well as add a couple of pounds and promote cancer. <3 Thank you for your advice though, that was so sweet of you to care about my feelings. :-*

 I love this forum, everyone is awesome so many opinions, and views, and the passion is so raw.  :)   Love all of you<3

 Oh yeah, I believe I  said so Paden. Excuse me for my poor choice of words again; I will apologize for my upsetting you and my generalization of most Americans and our ignorance's.

Yep, I was just teasing too (and like Millie, there would be no question if I wasn't). Besides, isn't it sort of fun to be thought of as a shiv wielding escaped convict who also likes to help people, uh, "relax" in the off hours? ;)


Yep, that too. I love the English language; I mean why use several different words when you can just use one to mean 1,000 unrelated things? :D


Where are you getting this information, Melissa? While this may (although it would be shockingly unlikely) be true, if you haven't got a good standard set up for judging the "evidence" to support it, you're just misinforming others (and yourself). I'd recommend that you give a strong look at the sources that are providing the information to you; do they have a goal they are trying to push? What sources are they citing? Are they citing the information (e.g. studies, essays, articles, etc.) correctly? Are the sources they are using unbiased? Are they unbiased? What methodology have they set up to test the idea/data? Have you read/viewed/listened to the studies/sources they use as the basis for their reports? Are they thorough? Careful? What criticisms have been levelled at the idea and "evidence"? How have they responded? Have the tests been repeated? Are the results the same as the first time the test was run? How willing are you to accept that you may be wrong, and may only be believing in something because it tweaks your own interest or suspicions? 

Frankly, I could add about a billion more questions to the list, and (at least for me) being unwilling to do the work to get to the bottom of the story and relying only on the info that appeals to you or that a biased source gives out reeks of intellectual laziness.

I smoke like a chimney when my kid is asleep. I have smoked for 31 years and I'm not dead yet. I ain't goin til I am damn good and ready to go, so meh.

Sorry Mellissa, I was going to join in on the conversation however I was blinded by the sprinkles throughout your post. Also, being American, I find your stereotype of Americans badly. U HAS OFF-ENDED ME!!

Seriously, though. Posts, in my opinion, don't need to be rainbows. If you're proud of poor grammar, that's fine, but please don't try to push it on the rest of us.


Edit: I was totally going to edit my own grammar typo, but left it in - why not?  ;)

I feel I must agree with crunk on this one. There is a reason we don't use rainbows on this phorum, and it is not because we're colorblind.

I have to agree on this; if I want rainbows, I'll put a sun catcher or crystals in my windows. Or open a bag of Skittles.

 I am sure the reader will notice the word "my" is in bold. I thought it to be fitting so I  can clear this as "my" opinions or views and to make sure there is no misinterpretation on the readers part in reading this.

So, when you point your finger at me; how many are pointing back at you?  Let me again apologize for "my" poor choice of words and say I am sorry for your misunderstanding of "My outlook on over the counter drugs/prescription drugs and eating habits ."   As well as say I will edit what I said so that you can better understand me "I never take those poison pills and eat that kind of junk it tends to fog "my" mind and effect the way "my" mind and body function; as well as add a couple of pounds and promote cancer in my opinion."  Now if that does not clarify "my" opinion and views and you still want to argue over what I wrote and have questions on the facts and data to what I stated as "my" personal decisions in life; I can only say to you that you obviously have questions in life that need to be answered and Frankly I don't give a rats ass and suggest you go looking for them yourself? Because to me you "reek of intellectual laziness!  I am not trying to impose "my" opinions or views on anyone here. Except when anyone gives me advice that they themselves should take into practice.

        I find this very hard to talk to a computer and show emotion and personality unless you are a writer and have a way with words; in "my" opinion. I have apologized so many times and right now I am at the brink of saying "F IT" let them believe what they want!  I didn't come to this forum to start a fight. I apologized and reworded my statements and frankly I am not surprised to see how many people are picking apart everything that I have written. Now we all do not know each other and when I state "my" opinions and thoughts I am just trying in "my" way use humor or show a little bit about me. What you take from it is on you and how you feel about me is your judgments. I do recognize I am new here and that some of you are just joking around and I do appreciate it. But there are some it seem that they want to throw around their intellectual words or flex their brain around as though they are on the beach showing off their muscles like a meat head on steroids.
 When in all honesty it just goes to show their insecurities in "my" opinion(also since when did noob's opinions matter?). I don't appreciate insults as well as the next person but new or not I am too out spoken to just shut up and let someone keep making up some random argument over their interpretation of what I said. Like I have said before I have apologized about "my" humor and wording I have used and if those apologize are not enough then there is no hope for me!  (OK, I am done with rainbows I am sorry for offending anyone. As well as the smiley faces.)   I will also not change who I am and should expect the same from all of you!   Like I said before I love it here and I Love all the people even the ones who hate me. <3

 

I think this has been blown out of proportion. And you can say FUCK IT, it won't hurt "my" feelings.

 Thank you, I will take your advice.

This is true. I do find your position highly insecure.

Opinions are fine; however, when you make a blanket statement relating to physical/testable/real world subjects you should expect to be called on it and to prove your position. If you aren't comfortable defending a position that you yourself brought into discussion then you shouldn't have brought it up in the first place.

Perhaps my opinion that providing an argument without any backing automatically equalling intellectual laziness is unfair, as I didn't give you time to formulate a proper response to my questions. On the other hand, you instead chose to defend your argument with a host of ad hominem attacks rather than finding backing for your earlier statements. Maybe you aren't used to conversations/arguments that run this way, I don't know; but for me I find talk like this engaging and interesting and I hope to get you to want to prove your statements in a definitive, evidence (non logical fallacy) based way. If it's something you feel passionate about and feel is important to your personal intellectual/belief system you should want to be challenged on it and be prepared to defend it ( and no, I don't consider "because I think so!" or "You're a jerk!" appropriate defenses).

Lots of americans in this forum, and I'll say that any of my errors are from spending a good bit of my formative years around native german speakers, speaking english.

So, sometimes, I'll use a phrase a little wrong.  But, honestly, I don't see a point in being proud of bad grammer.  As for midol adding weight?  Huh, what?  The Pill, I'll grant you, still struggling to lose the 75 pounds I added the last time I took -those-.  But Midol is just to aleve pain and discomfort, it beats being bent over double for a week, trust me.

hi,

Thanks for the booty and the kewl forum. I have bad grammer too which sucks ass, I say oh well screw it. if yah can read my typos i think we're going good there hah ::).

Okay, who is paying you to resurrect old threads? 

This resurrection doesn't bother me. Some people just wanna say thanks. I'd rather they keep resurrecting this thread than start one of their own.

True.  If I hadn't seen about a dozen threads she'd already resurrected, I probably wouldn't have noticed this one.

We feel your pain, trust me. I got highly annoyed by the little twat, too.

She is way too much like food poisoning.  Just when you think it's over and done, it enters your lower intestines and the fun begins all over again. 

Yeah I saw that really nice post you three. Why are you being such fucking assholes, calling me names just because i said something or oooh touched a dead thread that I didn't know. Why do you move the dead threads in to a diferent section, it would be easier for newbies like me.

Keep treating me this way, so there's no fucking way I'm gonna spend fucking money on paysites for the the booty.

Take the fucking ego trips later :P

Read the FAQ.

What a pain in the ass you are. You hate us? Then go away. Easy enough.

You are such a stupid little bitch. You were told at the beginning of your junket of stupidity that you were pissing people off and you couldn't be bothered to read the damn FAQ to find out WHY we were getting pissed?? Jesus H. Christ, who in the fucking hell do you think you are?! Some spaychul snowflake that's allowed to do just what she wants cause she's spaychul? I don't think so. In case it's escaped your notice, honey, snowflakes melt when the heat touches them, and yeah the heat is on. What does that tell you?

Also, you have royal entitlement issues. You don't come onto a board like this and start to shit like a troll with the Hershey squirts and expect to get away with it. Oh, fuck no. You read the rules, you follow the rules, and you don't act like you have a sunbeam shining out of your ass. And what happened to your hippity-hoppity New Age love and kisses for all and blessed be attitude? I know where it went, the same place it goes for every New Ager that doesn't have shit all go their way! Right into the shitter where it belongs! I know Wiccans and pagans that keep such greetings for those that they know are of like mind and belief because for them it's a personal thing! The only thing personal with you is your damn body odor!

You, madame, are a twat with the sense that the Good gave a spider on crack cocaine. Threatening to withhold money that could pay for Booty files because we speak our opinions? Why not threaten to just cancel our birthdays or take away our right to pay taxes, it's gonna have about the same effect: We're all gonna laugh at you! Just like Adam Sandler puts it, we're all gonna laugh at you! And point! Yeah, that's right, douche bag, we're gonna point and laugh at you and think that you didn't grow up with much sense beyond that which makes a rat come in out of the rain, and maybe not even THAT much!!

Late to the party, but...


Read the FAQ (http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/index.php/topic,1104.0.html), LURK MOAR, and quit being so goddamned butthurt.

I happen to like this community just the way it is, so quit acting like we need to change a fucking thing for a speshul snowflayke like yourself.

ETA: Why the fuck would we care if you refuse to donate to the booty? I'm sure the anonymous donating pirates have that taken care of. Besides, someone that explicitly states their intent to donate to the booty (where there are paysite spies!) is a special kind of stupid.

Aww, poor baby. 

We're being fucking assholes as you put it, because we have to keep dealing with twits like you. 


And why should we make it easier for you or any other newbie?  No one held a gun to your head and forced you to come here, you did that of your own free will.  You barged in, claiming you wanted to fit in, but what you really wanted was for us to coo over you, and tell you how awesome and special you are.  Well, guess what? This forum wasn't set up to cater to you, little snowflake.  Welcome to the real world.  You go barging into new places and start babbling without knowing the rules and you get hurt. 

If you had really wanted to fit in, you would have lurked moar.  A lot more.   A whole lot more.  You would have found the FAQ, read it, and taken it to heart.  You would not have been trying to answer to every single thread you could find chirping happily and telling us all "Blessed Be."   Yes, I know, you're all happy about your religious beliefs and I'm very happy for you, however, there is a time and a place for everything.  I am a Christian myself, but I don't end every post I make with, "And may the power of our lord and savior, Jesus Christ, be and abide with you all, now and forever, amen."  Or even "God bless you all."     Because that would be inappropriate.  If I want to have God bless people, I will go to a Christian forum. 

So, why don't you quit your little temper tantrum, take the twist out of your knickers, and grow up.  One good thing about this forum is that if you decide to grow up and start acting more like a human being than a special little snowflake, you'll be forgiven.  If you want to continue the temper tantrum, then  I advise you to get out.  Not that it isn't funny as hell to watch you stamp your special little feet, but I would imagine you'll grow tired of being the butt of our jokes after awhile.

Decyphyra, we is pirates on this site.  We're mean to those act foolishly.  Some could say cruel.  Apologise and behave yourself, and chances are we will change our tone.  As long as you continue to post intelligently.  Until then, as long as you carry on the way you are right now, we will hurl abuse at you.

Can we add some cinder blocks and rotten veggies in with abuse, Meanie??

Oh fuck yeah  ;D.  Some nice eggs too.  Good and shtinky.

ok,

here's the deal ok, I was pissed off my mom beacuse she was yelling and being bitch at me for the last two weeks, and I took it out on you guys, so i will say sorry and not act like a "twat".

meanie: heheh ;D thanks for the laugh it was a good one, so watch out for me when i eat eggs, lol ;D

Ok back to complete honesty, yes i have poor grammer and yes I want to help the booty grow and grow. The booty is like the cookie monster hehe ;D which i don't mind.

well good day to everyone, including the folks who dislike me.

I never said that I disliked YOU, I just disliked your ACTIONS. Big difference. Have some rum.

I can look past bad spelling, but, you do need to use capital letters and periods.

Like Paden, it's not you personally that I dislike, just the behavior.

ok sounds good to me and i think i am gonna go the bar and get totally smashed. Yeah don't worry I won't be posting here while i'm toasted n' roasted in rum.

passes the rum around.... time to get drunk, come on all :D it's party time.

Grabs rum and runs for the hills.

Wait for me, FP! Waaaaaaiiiiit! I need a vacation, too, you know!

Ow Crap...Didn't mean to leave you dusdee  :'( , Here, have a keg or two.

Please to be using your shift key.  ::)

Corrected...... :P Only to make sure your message is received and understood by Decyphera! Other wise I don't give a crap about grammar.

I wrote it that way on purpose.

Oh, ok my mistake, but in honesty she may be to " Special, with sparkles" to read it that way.

And Decyphera: for fuck sake do us all a favour and choose an avatar and bloody well stick with it!! you stupid twit!!

It's not a good idea to state your pirating intentions in public. There are paysite spies. They're probably reading this thread. You probably should read the TSR Sharing your information thread (http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/index.php/topic,2113.0.html) in ARR! If they think you are a pirate, they will probably share your information (name, paypal details, etc).

You also probably want to read Coconut's blog here (http://tsrcoconut.wordpress.com/). Check the posts about both Habitat and TSR sharing the information of people they thought were pirates.

She fell out of the Stupid tree and hit every Stupid branch, stick and leaf on the way down and hit the Stupid trunk when she bounced upon landing. That's the only damn thing that makes sense in this case. Knock it the fuck off, twatberry!

ever think that english is not my main language :P this is what you are in one word narcissists:

Вы так близко к невозможной для того чтобы разговаривать с. Вы верите что вы всегда правы, и не охотно готовы изменить их поведения. Почему измените если вы думаете над им всем и всегда думаете ваше право? И вы не делаете когда вы неправильны поэтому бесед о отключении эга. Так пойдите получите жизнь, потому что хотя бы я имею одно. Бог вы умственно дивергентны! >:(

Us narcisistic? Really? Now I'm butthurt :'( IMHO, its seems a bit narcissitic for you to think we'll make special rules just for you noob!

How fucking hard is it to capitalize the beginning word of your fucking sentences?

Oh, you see what I just did there? It's called a fucking shift key.

Translated by Babel Fish for the Lulz.  :D

You so closely to the impossible in order to talk s. you believe that you are always right, and it is not willingly ready to change their behavior. Why will change if you you do think above it by all and you do always think your right? And you do not make when you they are incorrect therefore conversations about turning off of [ega]. So go you will obtain life, because at least I have one. God you are mentally divergent!

Yah, expecting us to change is normal behavior.  ::)

Pssst Decyphera self-centered much? Quite a few of us here are E.S.L but we at least make an effort. Lazy excuse is lazy! And as far as I know capitalization after a full stop is requirement for most languages.

May you be cursed with short arms like a tyrannosaurus rex and the fleas of a thousand camels in your crotch.

paden STFU,

so talk to my fuckin ass because my heads busy :P twatberry turd tamper

Decyphera, you're obviously not fitting in here. I suggest you move on to another forum before your wittle fweelings get hurt even more than they are now.

DIE, 12!
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Well seeing as this is a forum, you could just GTFO instead of telling Paden to talk to your ass. If your head is so busy, why come back? Go join some fuzzy and rainbow forum where you can all say "Blessed Be" to each other and fart hearts. Also, I'd be careful now. You've have the FOJ getting irritated with you, which won't be fun for someone with such sensitive wittle feelings such as yourself. Bannation in 3...2....1...

You mean I haven't already BEEN talking to your ass?? From the way you've been acting, I thought that I already was. You know, because you've been acting so mature and all of that. Twatberry.

You know, that's the same thing the idiot said in that thread that got deleted. My previous reply still stands: Obviously your head is not busy. If it were, you wouldn't have time to come here and rape every dead thread you can get your necrophilic hands on, sicko.

Please to be using moar creativity and less stupidity.

Holy fucking shit!  How many heads do you have you stupid bitch ?!?!

You first, my dearest, most adorible little twatburger. 



Oh my, such language.  What happened to "Blessed Be?" and the little ray of sunshine you proclaimed yourself to be when you first decided to grace us with your presence little twatmuffin?  The moment anyone doesn't kiss your rosy ass, the true you come out in technicolor twatdom. 

You, Miss, are a twattard.  You're a twatwaffle, a twatberry, a twatburger, a twatmuffin and anything else twaty you can think of.  And if you don't like the attitude 'round here?  Well, there's the door.  Don't let it hit you where the good lord split you. 

Ta ta, Forget to write!  Enjoy your time in twatland!

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Karu, that pair of cats looks like they could be Suzie  (left) and Magoo (right) in the first apartment I had in this area! Thanks for the giggle!

wow


You go from hippy new age Wiccan: "blessed be"

to

psycho fucktard: "paden STFU" and "talk to my fuckin ass"

in only 14 posts and 3 days   ::)

 Well, she is very spehsul.  ;)

Yeah, but I don't think she broke any records. 

Two. One head is a wanna-be Wiccan, the other head is a psychopath.  :D

No they are two of her multiple identities because she is just plain psychotic.  Yeah a fruitloop with multiple identities and multiple heads to go with them.  Not sure what she names them.  Shall we have fun naming them for her?  :D

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On behalf of all serious wiccans I apologise for this idiot. Rule of thumb: anyone who signs their posts to random strangers with "Blessed Be" is as serious about wicca as the Phelps are about Christianity. Religion, yer doin it RONG!

I'd also like to apologise for all ESLs, Russians, women, teenagers and humanity and general.


Lady Rainbow Moon-n-Twatberry and Loony Toon?

Your not half right about her misrepresenting all us witches.  That whole blessed be thang is supposed to be something murmured from one witch to another, not slathering it around the place on a public forum, pissing everyone off.  If she wants to announce her religion, wear a pentacle or something subtle like that.  But keep it at that.  Its idiots like that who sully the reputation of Wicca in the eyes of everyone else who consider it to be just a silly hippy New Age thing and not one of the worlds comparative religions.  (On an interesting note, I find it fascinating that there are so many witches on this forum in the first place considering the percentage of Wiccans and Pagans there are world wide in comparison to Christianity, Judaism, Islam and Buddhism.)

I don't think it's that strange. From what I've seen, wiccans and most pagans in general are activists by nature. I think this forum attracts people who are genuinely upset at the whole paysite situation and are dedicated to changing it. It figures some of those would be pagan.
I don't think there are that many wiccans in the world though. Millions of 12s wearing black nailpolish and blessed-being until they're blue in the face, but I rarely meet anyone who, to put it bluntly, gets it right and is seriouly dedicated to a religion instead of a fad that pisses off the parents. I met one once who insisted that if you didn't say "Blessed Be" at the end of every conversation you had no right to call yourself a wiccan. Ditto if you didn't wear do-and-so crystals. When I pointed out that Dutch (my native language) has no equivalent of "Blessed Be" and I couldn't afford those crystals, she was well and truly stumped for about ten minutes, after which she  excommunicated me ;D Did I mention she was the High Priestess of a coven of 3 which she founded, none of the members over 15 years old, and called herself Lady Ravenwings?

Anyway, this Entitlement Twat has managed to push all of my buttons. I'm actually glad I'm late to the game, otherwise I may have lost my temper ::)

I would like to thank all you guys who actually bought this pay stuff and shared them with us, you are THE BEST! even if i am heard from some people that don't wanna use stuffs from this site cause they have some kind of dignity, like a lot even better creators share their things for free, i am sure EVERYBODY is wanted maybee one thingy from pay sites, so you guys really rocks and i loe you. thanx a million ! best regards!

Or she could put )O( in her sig, like I did on the BBS.

No need to apologize - I think we all know that she's a maroon.  As I mentioned somewhere, my brother-in-law is russian [the one I like too, not the one I would cheerful deskin and soak in lemonjuice], besides, enough assholes that speak english natively....in fact, I'll apologize for those, shall I? :)

Oh yeah, I like that one. Subtle but clear.

Heh, I don't think Decyphera has the brains to think up something like that though  ::)  I've been Wiccan for over 12 years now.  Learnt about it at uni.  Knew people who called themselves white witches before then though.  Never really knew much about their beliefs.  I did the whole 1 year apprenticeship thing (while there is a lot out there in books and on the internet, its still best to have some guidance at the beginning).  A lot of wicca is stuff that is traditionally handed down, not read in a book somewhere.  There is no real correct and incorrect, as everyone's path is different.  The best bit of advice my mentors gave me was that its not the actions but the thoughts and intentions that matter most. 

The only guidance I've had in 20 years has been intuition and books.  Tried taking a white witchcraft course and it was fine, until there was the whole sex with someone assigned to me - no way, not in this day and age especially.  Besides, the Sacred Marriage is not for just anything, and not for a novice anyways.

But I'm also not actually Wiccan, I'm Celtic tradition, with a lot of other things picked up.  I've taken to calling myself a pantheist, since I believe all deities are real and a part of the greater whole.  I also have my level 2 Reiki attunement, and some psychic training and experience.  I've mostly just learned as much as I can and sorted it out as I've gone along.

I did have a very short bit of shamanistic training, but it was not for very long, and rather piecemeal.

Beg to differ. "Wicca is everything you wanted to be" and "It's not wicca if it doesn't involve ten grand worth of tools and stuff" is most definitely incorrect. But I do see what you mean. There's a lot of people who mean well enough but are just a little overwhelmed by all the half-truths, bullcrap and actual truths out there in mass quantities.
Meanie, what denomination are you? Only it sounds like you're Gardnerian and I'm interested in that :)


Icky. That sounds... not kosher. At all. What kind of weirdo lets a novice do that? That kind of thing should be a clear sign to run hard, fast and in the opposite direction. I seriously hope you dumped that group hard.

Oh, I did.  I stopped sending in my lessons, and I think if we'd been closer to W.Virginia, several very upset guys would have gone and beat some people up.  I think it was the School of White Witchcraft or something.

On the other hand, both Third Road and the Green Witchcraft stuff looks much more kosher, and both deal with balance.

I'm a frisbeetarian. I believe that when I die, my soul goes to the garage roof and stays there until a strong wind knocks it down. 

lol at Darqstar.

I don't really subscribe to any particular Wiccan denomination.  The whole initiation thing was done for a more personal thing more than anything

You will have to excuse me being a little short on responses right now.  Its over 45 degrees outside and my airconditioner blew an hour ago.   I've been been through a litre of water, and have been standing in front of the fridge every two minutes.  The brilliant news is that they are predicting a hotter day tomorrow and over 40 for the next 6 days.

If it makes you feel any better we are getting sleet on top of the snow we've had all day.  I've made the Spousal Unit promise not to try to get to work if the roads are too bad tomorrow.   

Oh, and one of my cats is apparently having some sort of bad reaction to the antibiotics for her bladder infection.  This probably means she'll have to have an emergency trip to the vet even if it is too bad to drive.

Where's global warming when you need it?

If the weather gets below 60 F or above 80 F, I turn into a whiney little brat. I don't envy you guys.

I used to be able to handle extremes...really, I did. Then I moved to San Francisco, where it's a steady 60-70 degrees all year round.

We got the air conditioner running.  Its still struggling to cool the place.

As for the whole Gardinerian practice, the whole concept of conducting rituals in the nude kind a freaks me out a little.  Then there is their version of drawing down the moon.  Gardiner strikes me as being absolutely obsessed with sex.
And the idea of the arranged marraige thing is so not Wicca.  Wicca is supposed to be based on the Old Religion or Pagan England.  No historical stuff that I have ever read ever mentioned arranged marraiges within that culture.  Thats more a Roman or Indian thing.  According to my research, a man and wife could be handfasted for one year.  But the couplings were not arranged in anyway

Ah, but performing magic while naked is traditional. I mean, why do you think D&D wizards don't wear armor? I mean, sure, it has BECOME about the idea that wizards don't have time to be trained to wear armor, etc., but this justification has so many holes in it that it simply doesn't hold up under scrutiny, or any knowledge of armor! The real reason is simple: Originally, magic was performed NAKED, but they don't want to SAY that.

Pes, thats Dungeons and Dragons.  Pen and paper and d20 and may a few d6's, a Dungeon Master/ Game Master and a few certifiable Nerds to play it.  Fiction.  I'm quite sure you regard Wicca as being mere fiction as well, (just as I'm sure you regard all religions as being mere fantasy).  But there is a distinct difference between Mages in D&D and Druids and Witches in real life..  And oh, yeah.  Mages in D&D don't cast spells in the nude, either.  They still need some form of armor class - they wear Robes.

Really, there was no Olde Pagan Religion. Gardner came up with wicca in the 50s and I don't have a problem with that. And ol' Gerald was indeed obsessed with sex and knives. But I have no idea what Gardnerians get up to these days. There's none of them in my country and they keep their secrets locked up pretty tight, so who knows? I personally have no problem with the nudity and I heard several people who'd done the Great Rite in Truth and make it sound like it was the most wonderful, lifechanging experience they ever hoped to have. All between people who had been working together for years of course. Perfect love ad perfect trust and all that.

And my favourite class in D&D used to be sorcerer, before 4th edition D&D for Dummies came along. People usually assumed I played that class because I was wiccan and thought it was a hoot that I "really believed I could do all that stuff" in real life ::)


 :D Thanks for the lulz on this, a thouroughly crappy day.

The whole thing about Wiccan Secrets, or Mysteries is that you learn them for yourself in your own time.  In those sorts of covens where secrets are kept, its a shared experience rather than an individual one. They usually also practice High Magic.  I've studied up on Ancient Egyptian magic and ritual which follows a similar vein - you know elaborate rituals and chants as such with the aim of invoking the Gods and strong protection spells and such.  With Egyptian magic, you have to be careful to use the Egyptian names of Gods and such, as opposed to the Greek and Roman versions.  So its Iset not Isis etc.

This may be true, but we still force our magic-users to play naked.

Thank you!  :-X

Actually, the idea of magic being done in the nude is victorian - its up there with white wedding dress and Handal's wedding march.  Some princess did it, so everyone copied it, and since the victorian era, everyone thinks its some old, old custom - its not.

Same with magic - Victorian times were extremely restrictive, so the 'occult' became very popular, and included dancing around outside with no clothing, up to orgies.

While there is no one 'olde tyme religion' that makes up paganism, any worship of pre-christian deities from the Mediterranean and Europe classify as pagan.  Some pagans include any non-judeo-christian faith system, just as native american and asian, but those probably shouldn't for a variety of reason.

Modern Wicca though is a completely new faith, really, just pulling from older things, much like who Christianity was new once and pulled from older things.

The Victorian era is responsible for a lot of modern day western misconceptions.  Like the idea that belly dancing is some strange and scandalous style of dance that was performed for the enjoyment of men.  This is not true, as danse orientale is a part of many middle eastern and mediterranian cultures.  Afghanistan (khaleegi), Egypt, Lebanon, Turkey and Greece (tsifatelli) all have their unique styles.  Pretty much all the women grow up learning to belly dance as a form of execise.  But the victorians, when they saw this were scandalised by such 'suggestive undulations of the body'.  And its had a dodgy reputation ever since.

Granted some of the Wiccan practices are based on old pagan beliefs.  But all the true pagan cultures from the British Isles have been lost, wiped out by the Romans, and various other cultures.  (Teutonic cultures.  The Christian church did the majority of the damage, however.)  But many Wiccan covens will worship Egyptian and Greek gods, rather than the likes of Ceridwen and Epona.  Granted its not necessarily  the God as such but the energy that they represent that is called upon during any Rite.  And many of the worshipping practices that are performed are based on Egyptian ritual and magic as performed by ancient Egyptian priests and recorded in the Book of the Dead, parts of which were displayed within the tombs of the deceased, and others carefully transcribed onto papyrus scrolls.

Yeah - I'm a solitary practioner, so I really don't know much about current practices, except in theory and bits and pieces.

I tend to call on who works best for what I need, or who feels right.  I know I hop around pantheons alot, but I do tend to stick more with celtic than any other *hides her Isis and Sekhmet statues*

In Greece it's called Tsifteteli. Fun Facts Gallore: Belly dancing origninated as a male bachic dance, wherein a young man would "promote" his flexibility and sexual prowess. Later it was taken over by eunichs and finally in the late 17th century by harem concubines. The Tsifteteli is quite easy and fun to do (that's if you don't mind dancing on tables in high heels  ;)) but demands a good sense of balance. It helps develop abs too!

Too bad my hubby hates going out to Greek music places. One does not look as sexy whilst headbanging  :P

Don't get me started on the Victorians, they're the morons that are responsible for the idea of Vikings having horns and wings upon helmets. Nothing could be farther from the truth because their armor was designed not to give an enemy sword anything to find purchase upon and do damage to the wearer underneath! The ideal was clean, smooth metal without edges for other weapons to catch. As I recall, it was the English, French and German that went in for all of the fancy scalloping and garbage. Also, of what use to a berserker in battle are horns upon the helmet? He can't aim the damn things to gore anyone with, they just add weight and bulk and someone could catch hold of his head and take it off by grabbing the horns! DUH!

As for wings? That's just silly, it's not like it's gonna help them fly over the battle and pick a foe from the crowd, or get them out of a pickle. Of what practical use is ornamentation in battle except for the enemy to pick you out and target you. Bleh, people with no common sense... Stupid fuckers...

Victorians I think also promoted the whole vikings as bloodthirsty barbarians.  And if you want to hear a rant about how vikings are portrayed in the media?  One of my housemates is Astaru and half swedish - he can really go off on that subject for hours, a bit like me and the fluffy bunny pagan :)

Most belly dance styles are pretty good for the abs, except for khaleegi (sort of pronounced haleezhi) which has a lot of slight lifting of the besequined robe (called a thobe), moving about with what looks like a slight limp and tossing the hair.  Modern Egyptian is really demanding on most muscles because it has a lot of layer upon layer movement.

I'm all for any religion that involves nekid men.  I wish mine would. 

Honestly, I do joke a lot about religion, but that's mostly because mine has been so screwed up (Christianity)  It boggles my mind how much blood has been shed in the name of someone who thought it might be cool if we could all just mellow out and get along.  I mean for pete's sake, Jesus hung out with leapers, tax collectors, women,  and all sorts of types who were on the lower end of the social scale at the time.  Yet, we have people screaming how Jesus hates homosexuals, or anyone who isn't a WASP.  I'm convinced that if Jesus were alive today, he'd be hanging out with societies fringes and volunteering his time to work with aides victims.  He'd be over in Africa trying to help the gangs of street children who've been orphaned because of aids.

He would not be sitting in Texas, with Bush.  That's not an anti Bush statement, the man is out of office, let's let the jokes end.  But I don't believe you'd find Jesus hanging with the white, uptight crowd that runs the country.  If I read my bible correctly, he got pissed at those types a lot.

This is why I don't belong to any particular church.  I won't, unless I'm able to start my own, which would be called The Church of Common Sense.  It's also why I believe that as long as your religion doesn't fringe on the rights of others, then more power to you.  I think that God takes many forms, and can be male or female.  I also believe that if he's the big bad bastard in charge of everything, everywhere, he has better things to do than to smite people for having the nerve to believe  in something different from the norm. 

I actually think God respects any religion that believes in respecting the Earth.  God made the earth, I'd imagine he'd like us to treat it with a little more respect.  Yet, a lot of people who profess to be Christians, also believe that the rapture is coming, so we might as well muck up the place all we like. 

*leaps off soap box*

But still, I like the idea of a  religion that would have naked men in it.  I'd probably make it a point to go to services more often. 

And that, in a nutshell is why I stopped calling myself a Christian years ago.  I got tired of all the backbiting between denominations and even, in some cases, churches.  I grew up Catholic, but I 1> didn't really agree that women were incapable of being priests [at age 5], 2> didn't want to be associated with people teaching hate, of any sort.

I still follow the 2 commandments, Love the Divine, and Love your Neighbors as Yourself.  I might take the neighbors a bit more broadly than some, in that I think it includes any living things, and not just the people on your block :D but I won't link myself to hypocrisy and hatemongering.  You're right, he did hang out with all sorts of people, and didn't care what society thought.

The Church of Common Sense is something I could see myself getting behind. The problem with Christianity, and indeed with every religion I've encountered, is that at some point people try to use it for their own gain. I think that people have been using Christianity for selfish purposes for a very long time (*cough*Constantine*cough*) and it's rather ruined it for the people who could really use some good stuff in their life.

I was raised catholic and it completely warped me, to the point where I still sort of believe in hell an the fact I'm going there for... well, pretty much everything I did from age 11 up. We'll see. If being pagan and having sex before a priest says it's okay gets me kicked down to hell, at least I'll know the truth: that there really is no justice in the universe.

Oh dear.  Had to read that last bit twice.  Missed the bit where it says "says its okay".    ;D.  Having sex before a priest by Catholic standards would most certainly see you burning in hell  :D

  :D I knew that sentence structure was wonky. I can't get much worse though. With all the crap I've pulled Dante will need to make up a new circle of hell just for me. :P

I read the entire bible by the time I was 10 and made the decision that there is no Hell, at least not as a place, only a state of mind.  This 'heresy' was helped by one of the Sisters who taught me at my catholic school - she said that Heaven and Hell were both banquest, lavish things, but you had 3 foot long utensils and couldn't use your fingers - in heaven, everyone just fed their neighbors, in hell, they starved because the idea of sharing never occurred to them.

So yeah, I made a bad Christian in the dogma sense :)

Okay, here's my problem with the nun's analogy.  According to the Christian faith, if you do not believe Jesus Christ died for your sins, you are going to hell.  (This is one of my huge picky points with organized religion.)  This means that it doesn't matter how nice you are, if you don't believe that, you're roasting.  It also means that Jeffrey Dalhmer is in Heaven and that irritates the snot out of me. 

That analogy of the banquet doesn't work for someone who follows the beliefs of organized Christianity, because some pretty nice people have died not believing in Jesus Christ,  People who certainly would feed their neighbors.  And some total assholes have died and gone to heaven that wouldn't dream of feeding their neighbors (Well Dalhmer might, but he would have fed the neighbor to his left, the neighbor to his right.) 

I would understand that analogy coming from someone who wasn't wrapped tight in the whole belief system, but I really always thought that in order to be a nun, you pretty much had to buy the whole apostles creed, verbatium. 

Yes, but Catholism is a bit different in some regards, as are all the different sects of protestantism.

It also even varies from priest to priest - I grew up with the 'Your conscience is the final authority', but would get into horrible arguments with another catholic friend in college over that.  Also, according to Catholics, Dalhmer is -not- in heaven.  They don't have the once your baptized its all good.  That's why there is confession, after all.

Personally, i think its presumptuous for any human to assume they know God's will, whether you think she's one or many, or both; and no matter what you call him.  That's like assuming you know what I'm thinking, except several orders of magnitude higher.  That's what drives me crazy about church dogma.  We can go 'Hey, that person really lead a good life' but we might not know he was a rapist, or a very clever mass murderer.

And no, not saying anyone here is presuming to know the full mind of the divine :)

If I'm gonna confess my sins and transgressions to the Good, I don't need a middle man to hear it all and be an asshole about it. I take it to the final authority and that be it. Said and done, over and out. :D Whichever that authority may be.

I was raised a Catholic in a mainly Orthodox country and that's no fun at all. Besides being picked on during Religious Studies (which are still mandatory here up to the end of high school thank you very much), everyone else let me do as I pleased. I have to stand by what Soggy said. Our priest was a very nice person and was always willing to listen. Confession was rather painless as he wouldn't be overtly critical and would just hand out Penance.

Nowadays... I honestly can't say that a single religion which would completely captivate me exists. I still believe in a higher authority (The science behind the whole Universe is too aesthetically pleasing to be completely random), but would that authority constantly worry about what I'm up to and keep a huge ledger just to track my life? Don't think so.

If I were forced to choose, I would worship Annoia, the goddess of clutter and things stuck in the kitchen drawer.  ;) (being a Pratchetterian and all)

I just can't believe in hell as a place, because God is supposed to be a parent - and a good one, not a bad one - those forgive you for mistakes and don't send you to your room with -nothing- to do for an eternity. :D

Well, you've heard the saying, "I brought you into this world and I can take you out!" Some people envision it like a, "I brought you into this cosmos and I can wipe you out!" meaning that your total existence will be terminated permanently once the Judgement day is done. Which, I guess, is the total hell, knowing that you're risking eternal deletion from the scheme of things? But first you get to bubble and boil a bit, maybe. I don't presume to think that I know.

I argue that God is a simmer. The historical record has him claiming creation of humanity, yet there is this mysterious source of unexplained others for them to breed with (townies). Eventually, he gets bored and smites people for lulz, and finally loses interest and leaves the game running on its own. When God finally notices that the game has been left running, he will either take a renewed interest in things, or kill the process. To prevent this, we must escape the computer and kill him first.

And now you know what the Sims will do if you leave them running long enough.

Wow that makes God sound like he made us as lil sims [oy in his image?] and we're all just ideas in his heads thinking we live our own lives :o...scary, lol.  Of course that would totally make sense as to why some folks suffer and live and die in turmoil and poverty and others are rolling in dough.  But not very parent like. Which means the creators of the sims would be the archeaologists that uncovered the ancient texts and the modders/creators the ones who made it all make sense.   So it's original Sim instead of original sin...my what a difference one letter makes in a translation.  I  guess I do have a religion then ;). 

oh my ..does that make Pescado the antichrist? hehehe


Edir:ok before anyone asks I was posting this at the same time as pescado and didnt bother to read the red warning...great minds eh? what a coinkydink

Well, in the theology of sims, that makes someone like Will Wright or maybe Rod Humble, or whoever it is that is REALLY responsible for TS2 into God. I, on the other hand, am clearly the Devil. I make your pathetic mortal existence more tolerable, and all I ask for in exchange is YOUR SOUL.

Waxing a bit philopsophical I actually something meant more along the lines of man being God's Sims.  Of course then that means the TS2 owners/creators (whoever takes credit for making it) unknowingly found inner truth about the origin of the world without realizing it and turned it ito a game for profit instead of spreading the word...sounds like something they'd do. 

But you're right either way you become the devil in that equation and we all love ya for it.

He lies, he also wants yer cheezy poofs!!!

Well, yes, and your cheezy poofs. But everyone wants those, and they're not required to be included. Unlike your soul. But your cheezy poofs would be appreciated, too.

What you'd rather some cheesy poof over a rum cookie, Pes?  No comment  ;)

Well, there's also the fact that Heaven itself is pretty unpleasant compared to Hell:

Also, worth noting is that Hell surely has air-conditioning, as engineers, like myself, go to Hell. :P

You can't haz mah cheezy poofs, nevar!!

My father always said he didn't want to go to Heaven, because there are no holes in the kegs or the women there. :D

Personally, I'd prefer chocolate and a mojito  ;D (bugger the cheezy poofs.  We don't get them down under)

I always thought heaven sounded annoying.  I mean I can't take most of my relatives for more than about 2 hours, and some of them not even that long Why on earth would I want to spend eternity with them?  My Mom and I would be at each other's throats in an hour, which would ruin the entire ambience of the place.  (And a good thing, too.)

Personally, I don't even believe there is a heaven and hell.   An afterworld, I'm not so sure.  But a concept as simplistic as Heaven and Hell strikes me as being at odds with the way everything else in life runs.

Maybe in heaven you all get smushed together into one single being. That's why there's no male and female. Ohhh creepy.

I'll be next to you Nouk, making this face: (http://emoticons4u.com/evil/105.gif)

You guys can keep your heaven and hell, I'm going to the Summer Country, which while warm, is bound to be cooler than either.

And bound to have more rollicking parties, with plenty of whiskey, and likely some rum too.

I guess I'll just take what comes when I shuffle off of this mortal coil and hope there's no fucking snakes. I hate snakes. Why does it always have to be snakes!? Yes, I am drinking a cup of coffee... And I'm outta cheezy poofs cause someone stoled them, damn you Pescado! I know you did it because you're to blame for everything that goes wrong! I want my cheezy poofs! :D

*This manic moment was brought to you by the Arabica Coffee Bean Association and in no way reflects upon the person's normal level of insanity, now back to your regular thread, already in progress. This has been a public service announcement*

Here's a thought: What if Heaven and Hell are actually the same place, and whether it is heaven or hell simply a matter of interpretation?

You'll like it, there's pink ponies.

And I've heard they taste a lot like roast pork.

In all seriousness, I figure the afterlife is like going home after finishing a school term.  That's when we remember everything, and have a chance to run around, goof off and have fun, as well as deciding what to sign up for next term.

I was never home during the summers when I was a kid... I was always shipped off to siblings so Dad could spend the summer, the WHOLE damn summer, doing the drill Sgt. thing in different states. He only did it during the summers, the rest of the year he taught school.

I HATED being shipped off, mainly because the siblings I was shipped to had a Bible shoved three quarters the way up their colon or most the way down their throats. Pentecostals, gotta love them. Like hell ya do, not when they're waking you up at four in the fucking morning screaming that they are feeling the Spirit and it moved them to wake you up and share. I stopped that when I rolled over and said, "You know, the spirit would leave you the fuck ALONE if you left the cap on top of the Jack Daniels. Now lemme alone, I'm going back to sleep." I was all of literal twelve. :D Sarcasm is a family trait, it seems.

LOL!  ;D
and yes...thank you!

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Hell has all the hot women in there, so its heaven to me in hell

They're probably only hot because they are on fire.

Yes, but they never give out their real phone numbers, which is good considering that their vaginas have sharp, pointy teeth.

Pfft, sharp, pointy teeth in the vagina is so passe, now they just all wear anti-rape condoms (http://www.rapestop.net/gallery/folderview.asp?folder=Anti-Rape+Condom+in+open+position)

Jesus fucking Christ - what a stupid idea.  Now you'll get a whole heap of murder victims instead of rape victims.  I've known guys that have stealed themselves against kicks in the nuts - and if you use this, they'd kill you. Way to miss the point anti-rape condom person.

Why did i click this link?!
There goes my innocence.

Cala, you're serious? Do you mean by ripping off the vagina? :-X Gosh!

Dr House - you know clicking things here leads to the profound loss of innocence :D

No - I mean by enraging rapists.  Rape is often about making the woman submissive - and proving their power.  Do this to a rapist, and he's likely to feel a great anger and hurt you badly, possibly kill you.

That was my thought when I saw it.  Also, I see too much potential for revenge in the product.  "Oh darling, I know you've fallen in love with my best friend and I'll get over it, but please, one more fuck for old time's sake?"  

Yes, I know they address the issue of potential abuse of the product, but the thing is, at least from where I stand, I know a lot more women who were scorned by men than were raped.  In fact, I think every woman I've ever met can tell me about a guy who screwed her over in some way.  Sure, most of them wouldn't go that far, but enough of them in the world, I think, would go that far.  

I've been away for months & actually totally forgot about that one. That's what you get from Fallouting too much.
My innocence, lemme has it back! ;D Hey, that'ld make a great T-shirt!

Aaaah! Totally agree with ya hun *nods*
In fact instead of anti-rape condoms two options seem better: karate that bastard - not very common & needs high body skill & training - or run like hell - incompatible with high heels.

I think that's likely to be a small percentage.  And of course, the assertion that the product will lead to conviction is absolutely ludicrous.  Women with black eyes and other marks don't get convictions because they weren't the "right" kind of woman to get a conviction on their behalf, so the idea that the rapex would lead to conviction is stupid. 

Your average conviction on rapes reported to police is 14% (roughly 1 in 3 are reported, giving you an idea of the scale of unreported rape and rape generally) so I don't think this stupid device would make one bit of difference.  Considering that stranger rape is the rarest of all rapes, and it's more likely to be a date rape, then what you *don't* want is a man who's had his sense of manhood injured with your fucking name and address. Say hello stalking and murder victim, who has been raped (after all - the device only activates after penetration) as well. 


Then you deserve losing it. :D :P


A nice thought - but the reality is that most women just freeze, and don't do anything.  They punish themselves afterwards for doing nothing, but it's a common thing trained into girls from a young age.  Even if they have karate lessons, they often freeze.  If you *had* to have an anti-rape device, I would suggest a chastity belt - at least that way you could ensure no penetration anywhere below the belt, and doesn't enrage the rapist quite so much.

A bullet between the eyes can't enrage the bastard, either. That's the kind of rape prevention I prefer and would resort to if pushed.

You know the simplest rape prevention?

"NO!!!!"

Obviously if women were socialized to say "no" more and sooner, it would not prevent all rapes. But it would prevent a hell of a lot. Every woman I know who was sexually assaulted knew their assaulter, and the ones who were assaulted as teens or adults were too "nice" to say no soon or loud. I've never been sexually assaulted, and I've put myself in supposedly stupid situations: but partly I'm lucky, and partly I'm the kind of woman who, if a guy touches me and I don't want him to, everyone within a mile knows it. Saying, loudly, "get your hands off me, I don't know you and don't want to," to a guy "massaging" your shoulder might make some women feel like bitches, but I'd rather be seen as a bitch than a target. (It never stopped me getting guys when I did want them either.)

To hear my father tell it, "NO" was my favourite word, said in a loud and penetrating voice that could be heard clear across a store. Many an ex-boyfriend heard it in the same tone, followed by a punch to a soft part of the anatomy if they tried to continue. It's one of the best ways to prevent it from happening, but I still like the follow up of a bullet between the eyes if they try to persist. Never had to do it, but did have the gun aimed and cocked before he left.

You know, it would be easiest not to hang out with assholes in the first place. I've never been with a guy who pushed me to do anything I didn't want to do.

Which is why every girl should know how to use a gun  ;)
I was a wild child & had to fend off my share of assholes. I was also lucky enough to usually hang out with a group that would have easily & readily kicked some ass for me!
Sometimes being a little biker bitch has it's perks  ;D

When you're on date with a guy you thought you knew well because you grew up with him and never in a million years thought he'd pull something like that, it makes you wonder. And it always makes you very glad that you know how to defend yourself.

I think that would help as well.  I also think that it would make it harder for the rapist to lie to himself about consent. 


She would be far more likely to shoot herself, or do nothing. The US has plenty of guns, plenty of people who know how to use guns, and it's not exactly a crime-free utopia. It does have about 80 deaths per day by gun violence, including about 8 kids. 

Which is why you teach people how to use a gun & promote gun safety. There are always going to be idiots with guns, just like there also will be idiots with other forms of weapons...the world is full of idiots. The biggest problem with kids getting guns is that their parents need to keep the guns locked up. I know this sounds like I am simplifying things a lot, but I think we need to take more accountability for our own actions. I know how to use a gun & highly doubt I would shoot myself.
As far as women 'avoiding' rape by avoiding being in a situation where it could occur...sounds like you are talking more about date rape. And yeah, while I think women should be more careful about getting themselves in a potentially bad situation, I also don't think you can tell by looking at a guy whether he is a rapist. The most approachable, seemingly nice guy could be the worst, while a scroungy-looking dude could actually be the nicest. It is also laying the blame of rape at the woman's door...something society is all too ready to do!

And the moment you start laying rape at the womans door, you get a whole new can of worms opening up.  All the work that the Women's RIghts movements have done over the past century are suddenly for naught.    Rapists can then use, the 'she was asking for it' excuse.  Blaming what she was wearing,  that she was outside at night, that she was alone, etc. 

The problem with the word no, is that not all rapists listem to the word no.  The problem with using a gun is the odds that the rapist has a gun too, and will likely use it before the victim does.  Better to learn some form of martial arts. Work out a little. 

I've been a black belt tae-kwon-do athlete since I was a 12 and I used to compete, so I believed I'd have no qualms about hitting somebody if I was attacked. Turns out on the one occassion that someone tried to molest me I hollered like heck before I even thought about hitting him. It worked, he left me alone and I've never since had a problem. Being trained to perform martial arts athletically leaves you with a huge disadvantage. I started training when I was a 0 (5 y.o. actually) and every single coach I ever had drilled in that what we learn on the mat stays on the mat. To this day I doubt I'd lift a finger against somebody, just cause I know I could seriously hurt them.

I'll support what has been mentioned before, rape or assault is rarely a phenomenon committed by strangers. It's more often than not people who you know and think you can trust. In my case, a friend I'd known since grade school who thought I was goofing around when I told him no the first 10 times. Just say no emphatically and if it's someone you know threaten to tell other people about their behaviour. (and warning other people about their actions is also a good idea).

I have a friend who was able to scare a rapist into not going ahead with his plan, I kid you not.  She lived in this building where this guy had broken into various apartments and raped two women.  Neither of them called the police, but my friend heard about it.  And yes, she tried to secure her apartment, but in order to make major changes (like bars on the windows, or alarming the whole place) you need to get the landlord's permission and he was a cheap bastard.

The guy broke into her place one night and she convinced him she was crazier than he was.  She started yelling that it took him long enough to get around to her, and wasn't she good enough for him, and told him his knife was kinky and she liked that, she just treated him like he was a roving male hooker, sent around for her amusement.  The guy got freaked and left.  She called the police.  They caught the guy, but they couldn't pin anything but a B&E on him, because he never got far enough to make sure that rape was his intent.

If the two previous victims had been willing to come forward and tell what happened, they probably could have pinned the rape charges and gotten the guy to go to jail a lot longer.  As it was, the guy got a 5 year sentence and was out in about 18 months for "good behavior."  And, because yaknow, the jails are crowded, so they needed to push out a harmless little rapist to make room for a really important criminal, like a guy who was caught smoking a joint.  'Cause those pot smoking guys are a real danger to society compared to a guy who breaks into apartments and rapes women.  

But, in a situation like that, it's pretty black and white.  The guy wasn't known, he broke into apartments, he raped women.  It's not like that can be misunderstood.  Date rape is harder, because a lot of times these guys completely and utterly convince themselves that she wanted it, that she was giving out the signals, whatever, and thus, they can be utterly sincere in court.  Meanwhile, because women are supposed to be the strong ones, and society often attaches a shame to a woman who "gives in" women are reluctant to turn in a date rapist because they're deep down afraid that they gave him a wrong signal or did something wrong that led to this.  But if in a clear cut case of "guy not invited, coming into your place late at night and forcing sex at knife point" and women are still afraid of the humiliation they might have to face if they told, imagine how it must feel to someone to step forward and have people think, "Sure, it was rape *snort* the bitch was asking for it!"

That doesn't happen. Like you say, there's always idiots with guns - better not to promote them as the solution to all problems. They create a lot more problems than they fix.


Of course rapists don't listen to the word No, but some sort of activity is better than nothing.  A rapist isn't likely to have a gun though - more likely to have a knife or a cord, or nothing at all.  Most rapists don't want to kill the victim - they want to terrify and cow them, so they don't tend to use guns.  On the practical side, you can't give someone a quiet little gunshot wound to make them behave, and part of it is making the victim comply through strength and the threat of violence.

Apart from changing mindsets, I don't think there is any surefire way to stop a rape. 


Rare in comparison with other rapes - not rare in itself though.


That doesn't always guarantee a conviction, believe it or not.  That is the most likely scenario that will lead to conviction, but still the character of the victim is used at trial - whether she said No, whether she's had some boyfriend visit her in the middle of the night and have sex with her, whether she was lubricated. And you can bet your arse that if it were a rape trial with more victims, he would have fought harder.


Most people in the CJS wouldn't be willing to go through a rape trial - and many wouldn't want to put their kids in to testify for a child sexual abuse because of the way victims get treated at trial.  Even though here we've removed the ability for defense lawyers to use the victim's history, they bypass that by questioning the victim extensively about that at the summary trial (indictment in the US) so that the victim is primed for the actual trial and fucks their testimony because they get nervous and agitated. 

The VAST majority of rapists don't have any weapon and don't even use their fists. How often do you carry a gun to a party, on a date, or to a friend's house?

As it happens, calalily, I share your opinions about guns. But even getting legislation that makes people wait a week before buying a semi-automatic, or registering their weapons, passed, is incredibly hard in the U.S., and often political suicide. It's hard even for many Americans to understand (unlike the stereotype, most of us do not own guns): gun culture here is deeply tied up with patriotism, religion, deep-rooted, constantly fed fear, a certain kind of masculinity, and ideas of (specifically American) "whiteness". The NRA is phenomenally powerful, and they can convince many of their followers that any legislation about guns whatsoever means next thing you know, the men in black will be taking away hunting rifles.

Always? Those are the most dangerous places to be! Notice how you totally don't expect attack there. So if someone is planning an attack, that is where you should expect the attack!

Damn straight. You can have my gun when you PRY IT FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS you FILTHY PINKO TRAITOR.

Ah Pescado, you can smell the debate about gun control a mile away, and what a surprise you're pro-gun.  Of course, psychos like you are why guns should be controlled. :D You are the convincing reason as to why projectile weapons should be controlled as strictly as possible, and not given to paranoid bullshit artists.


Oh definitely.  I think it's so ingrained in the culture there it's impossible to remove it.  We had the Port Arthur massacre, and the majority of people here were happy to agree to gun control (although I understand a lot of farmers buried their guns in lengths of PVC pipe - just the place for quick accessibility in case of attack).  In the US, no matter how many people die, the idea of giving up guns? Never on the agenda - and I doubt it ever will be.

Well, I don't know if I'm the best person in the world to talk about this, I'm really, in the main, anti-gun, but I certainly see them (as they pertain to my life) as a necessary evil. I must say, I have two guns here in this very house and another in my place up north. I am, indeed, American, and I would, indeed, throw a shit fit if my government tried to take away my guns. But I think that the mild legislation that has been suggested (regulation on automatic weapons) is more than reasonable. Because, really, an AK-47 is just a little too too when it comes to Gran protecting herself. However, I am an Alaskan, and living out in my particular part of the woods during hunting season without a gun is simply inviting trouble, being female as I am. And there are always going to be those shit-stupid hunters that come trespassing on my property. They have guns. What should I have, a fucking knife? Plus there's, you know, wildlife and junk (who, incidentally, bother me considerably less). The way I grew up, you don't go out without your dog or your gun, preferably both. You just don't. It's more than mere culture for us up here. Having a gun is like having a pack of matches - just something you should have, no matter what you're doing. Because if you find yourself in a situation where you need it and don't have it, you're fucked. Well, except those pussies from Anchorage. That city really should get rid of their guns. Anyhow, we were also raised with respect for what guns are capable of, and most of the kids I grew up with were taught how to properly treat them - which is something that Texas trailer trash simply don't bother with, it seems.

I was taught to use and respect guns. Both of my parents were members of the NRA and adhered to what they teach, which is respect for the weapon and how to use it properly. Official history (http://www.nrahq.org/history.asp) of the group shows what the actual aims for the founding were. I know the damage one can do, I know the safety one can bring and I know the food that one can provide. I also know that you never, ever get one out when you're angry or not in control of yourself, which sadly, some people don't.

Not ALL Americans are trigger happy fucking idiots, which some people from other countries do not seem to understand. If they didn't have guns to commit crimes with, they'd find something else, from lead pipes to goddamn boomarangs. The actual guns do NOT commit the crimes, the PEOPLE wielding them do. It's the people that don't get the education that misuse the fucking things, not those of us that have relied on them for protection and food. If some raving fucking lunatic broke into my house intent on doing harm to myself or my family, I would feel no remorse about defending us with a gun. I'd rather see my family alive and be up on charges than have all of us dead.

I do own a gun. It's locked up in a gun safe that is locked up in something else. If/when my son reaches the mental capacity to learn gun safety, he will be taught. Should he never reach that stage, he'll never know that I own it, simple as that. The gun was my mother's. It was given to her by my father and it was given to him by the U.S. Army Air Corp. It was his personal side arm and when he had to serve his summer time duty and such, he felt better knowing that my mother had that there to protect herself and their children because they lived in an area that was known for shit happening to women alone with kids. I'm glad she had it, or I'd never have been born five years after they moved.

That same gun put food on the table when the times were hard and the money was tight but a hunting license was owned. Because of that firearm, we ate well. Like it's already been said, some of us know how to treat guns and respect them. Don't judge a whole country based on what fuckwits do because they're too damn ignorant to know that guns stay locked up when not being used for hunting and you sure in the hell don't use them when angry. Anyone with half a brain knows that.

The thing is with the criminal element in Australia is that if they want a gun they will get it off the black market.  Although I still do not see that as a reason for honest folk to have a gun on them, as use of a gun would only provoke a criminal to use his.  I've known crims, one idiot is apparently locked up now for shooting someone. A lot of crims have had some seriously messed up lives, they've seen and done stuff that normal folk would probably only read about.  All that crap makes them incredibly unpredictable and at times extremely volatile Gun laws make it a damn site harder for them to arm themselves with a gun, and many of them have to resort to carrying a knife, which is much easier to deal with.  If you want a gun to protect yourself, remember this, a gun can only make a bad situation worse, so think very carefully before getting it out.

I'd never own a gun.  Not because I couldn't learn to use it, I could.  But because I know there are times when I've lost control.  If I had access to a gun at those points, I probably would have killed someone.  Not a fun thing to realize about myself, but at least I do realize it and stay far away  from guns.

Changing mindsets is important, yes. You need to start early on, by teaching your kids to kill starting from birth. Your first and immediate reaction to physical attack should be to kill the attacker.

See, this illustrates the problem: Martial arts training is only worth so much: Unless have trained to overcome that squeamishness against killing, all that training is worthless because you have already ceded the initiative to the attacker. This is the sort of the training that has to be started from birth for best effect. Children should be trained to kill immediately and without hesitation. Your first response to attack should not be ineffectual screaming or wailing, but to strike immedaitely, and strike to kill. The truth is that there are no dangerous weapons, only dangerous people. Be one of them.

That would certainly make things a lot better.  But the gun culture is still too ingrained in USians to let them acknowledge that 9 bullets a second might be a tad excessive for self defence.  Until the mindset is changed that guns are a solution to violence, there's no hope whatsoever that things will change.


Until I hear of a case with a five year accidentally beating himself to death with a lead pipe, or 10 people being killed via driveby boomerang attack, I will and do assume that guns are in a completely different league.


Ha - true.  Knife control is the biggest new issue in criminology - as a result of the difficulty of getting hold of a gun.  And statistics show that if you have a gun to defend yourself, you are heaps more likely to be shot - either by the criminal because he feels he has no control, or by yourself.


I don't see them as necessary - I've known many people who've lived their entire lives without guns.  Pffft - there are USians who live without guns, and they seem to live just fine.


I agree with you on this - although I would argue that they should incapacitate, or at least remove the threat - not kill.

Actually - the problem with guns is whether or not you know someone has one - I live in a town in the states where it was written into law that -every- household had to have a gun.  The crime rate dropped to the lowest in the state and possibly the lowest in the country.  When you know that every house has guns, you are less likely to break into it.

And the best deterrent to violence I could think of is pepper spray - someone sprayed some in a huge store and even clear across the store it was killing me - can't imagine how bad having it sprayed in my face would be.  And you couldn't actually kill someone to my knowledge, with it,

I'm pretty level-headed. I own several guns. I know how to use those guns. I have enough sense not to shoot at anyone or anything indiscriminately. I know other people might not be the same way. I don't really care. Someone breaks into my house, I won't hesitate to point my gun & calmly tell them to get the hell out. And if they don't...I will not hesitate to shoot them. And with my guns, they are pretty much gonna be dead. While I really don't WANT to kill someone...they should have stayed out of my house. It's mine! I don't carry a gun because I don't have a concealed carry permit yet, tho our county recently passed a law that we can. I do have a weapon tho...sometimes the best defense is a good offense.

 I seem to be having difficulty really understanding this issue. It seems that most of you are saying that some form of protection is required. Is violent crime that prevalent? I'm not making light of the issue, I'm just shocked at what I'm hearing. The city I live in has about 400,000 people and I've never felt the need for personal weapons. My daughters 21, 19 haven't either.

I live in the boonies, where my nearest neighbor wouldn't even hear my screams...so I am pretty much on my own.
We have had trespassers/thieves come to our farm. It took the county sheriff almost an hour to get here the quickest response time.
I should add that my guns are not just for home defense but also for hunting.
And I just like to shoot them sometimes.

Guns still won't prevent a person breaking into your house and stealing your stuff.  Why?  Because most thieves will do it when they know you are not home.  They still will won't prevent an attacker from attacking you.  Why?  Because if they know you have a gun, more than likely they will have their weapon pointed at you first.  Most crims have a lot less regard for human life than what you do, and when push comes to shove they will more likely pull the trigger to kill before you even have a chance to aim yours.  Don't kid yourself into thinking that a gun is going to protect you against criminals, it only makes them worse.  You want to protect yourself against home invasion?  Get some good doors.  Barr up the windows.  Lock them.  Harder to get in and a far greater deterrant than any gun.

What you feel you need for protection pretty much depends on where you live and what level your personal safety factor is at.  I live in a city where there is a lot of poverty, thus a lot of crime. Yet, when I was a walking fool, I was going for long night rambles around the place and the only person to ever give me a hard time were the police.  

My house has been robbed, but it was when we went out.   But, because of that, we now lock the door leading into our building at night, where we used to leave it unlocked.  

I don't feel the need to carry a gun or really, any type of weapon anywhere I go in this city.  And while I know there are people who are responsible and can have firearms without posing a danger to themselves or society, I am not one of those people.  

 We had long guns on the farm I grew up on but that was because of the frequent rabies epidemics in the area. That was more to protect the animals than ourselves, or perhaps a little hunting.

 If violent crimes are a function of poverty then we could be in for a rough ride with the economy going the way it has. I still can't fathom how that's a cultural aspect though.

Crime of all sorts, is generally higher in areas where money is scarce. 

Some people have a bad reaction, and you can sustain serious burns if someone is overzealous.  I don't have an issue with anything that causes pain - tasers etc. but stops short of being able to kill decisively. I just don't think that an ordinary citizen should be given the ability to administer the death penalty.


This is part of the problem for me - the opinion that a DVD player is worth more than a person.  Not everyone breaks into a house to hurt the occupants. And considering that almost every single person who argues that they're great with guns, and very responsible, then what exactly is the use of having a weapon, locked up, separated from the ammunition in your house?  I can't forsee people waiting for you to find your keys in the middle of the night and then assemble it.  So really, in a pinch, you won't have your gun.


The reality is that no form of protection is required - it's part of the mindset of justification for why guns are good.  Plenty of USians live in relative peace with no need to actually ever use a gun, and certainly no one has blazed in here with their anecdote of how they shot various home invaders. Indeed, having a gun as part of the equation makes it *more* likely that you'll be hurt.


I agree wholeheartedly.  Guns denote the power relationship. In robbery situations, if your assailant has a gun and you cooperate, he's less likely to hurt you than he is if he has a knife - because the assailant has the power.


All property crimes are a function of poverty - not all violent crimes.  Culturally, there are some differences - more gun crimes in the US because of the gun control policy in the US, while the UK has high volumes of knife crimes. 

I used to be married to an Army Airborne Ranger. He was career army, very gung-ho. He would be gone in the field for weeks at a time, leaving me home alone. For my safety, he and his buddy taught me all about guns and how to use them. I was never around guns before then, but he had so many weapons that he felt it better that I know how to use one. They took me shooting one day and it was actually kinda fun. I got to fire several different guns, from a civil war pistol to a Glok. They made sure to teach me how to fire the 12 gauge shotgun, since that was what I would use to protect myself in the event of a break-in or an intruder, etc. It was kept "combat ready" under the bed. My husband told me that, in all likelyhood, I would never have to fire it. The sound of the gun being cocked, or pumped would be enough to scare off anyone. It's a very distinct sound that everyone recognizes, especially criminals. And with the shotgun loaded with bird-shot, good aim isn't even necessary. Just point in the general direction of the scumbag and fire.
Luckily, I never had to shoot anyone. But it was during that time that a very good friend of mine was shot during an attempted robbery, half a block from my house. She survived, but lost her spleen. She has to take meds everyday for the rest of her life.
I guess I'm saying that everyone can agree that there are some people that shouldn't have guns, but if you outlaw guns entirely, then only the outlaws will have guns. It's a difficult balance.

ok, I'll shut-up now. :D

See now, this is what I mean - it can't both be "combat ready" and held according to the law. So you can't be a responsible, law abiding gun owner and use it for the purpose it's bought for.


You can actually buy that - just the cocking mechanism - so that you can do the "chik-chik" sound which will put the shits up someone without actually having a gun. :D


Controlling them this way means that there are so many fewer shootings.  A petty criminal or casual criminal can't obtain a gun on a whim - so there are less shootings all round. I don't think I've ever heard of a driveby shooting here.


You don't have to apologise for being forthright and opinionated. 

They do happen. Albeit, very, very rarely.  Most shootings are linked to bikie gangs however, and they procure their weapons via the black market.

I'm actually less concerned about guns and gun control issues than I am about the need for personal protection. I can understand wanting to protect ones home and family. What I'm curious about is the need to carry weapons. Is it fear or prudence?

You can keep a gun combat ready here, as far as I know - city law.  Personally, my weapons are all combat ready except for the antique eqyptian dagger a friend sent me recently that needs work.  I've never been attacked, and I've lived in some poor and crime heavy areas - And when you befriend your neighbors, then you have folks to guard your back.

But it still stands that crime in my town is -very- low, and its only been since the gun law was put into place.

I live in the country, and a very large county.  The amount of meth labs is high, we also have our fair share of body dumps from the city, although it has been awhile since I have heard of one.  Our county is also poor, which means we don't have a large police force.  We keep our doors locked, garage door shut, and we lock the doors from inside the garage to the house.

I have a gun almost combat ready, meaning the clip is loaded and takes me 2 seconds to remove the trigger lock.  The only reason the clip is out is because I have children in the house, and I do believe it *is* illegal to have a loaded gun in the house with minors, but otherwise I don't think it is illegal to have a loaded firearm.  Now, my children are all expert shots too.  My 17 year old son was awarded ... can't think of the proper name off hand...  He has the expert marksmanship pin from the Army, and of my three boys, he is probably the worst shot!  :P

Same here! We've had attempted break-ins. It takes the cops a good bit to get here & I'm not going to wait for them to show up if someone breaks into my house. If they are breaking in it is sure that they are up to no good. Maybe they ARE just there to steal something. But the 2 guys that beat a fellow to death not far from us were just there to steal too. He didn't have a gun.
We could argue this point all year. We are probably going to have to just agree to disagree. The right to bear arms is one constitutional right that I hold dear. My opinion on that will never change. But I know that other people have the right to their own opinions. Hey, that is what makes life interesting & debate is always good. For myself bmyall, it is prudence. My dog would probably scare someone off before they ever got in, but I figure if they aren't afraid of  him then I would have little chance against them unarmed. So I choose to be armed!

Yes - when you wrote that I googled it, and found a couple of incidents.  But certainly it's not the phenomenon here that it is in the US.


Fear and moral panic.  People have a propensity to believe that crime is becoming worse - you can find diatribes in Ancient Greek literature about youths in gangs with green capes and the waiting collapse of society, and the same rant about morals in the 1800s concerning children and the moral character of the younger generation.  People are all too ready to believe that they will be attacked, and while being in a low socio-economic area makes one more prone to either being a victim or a witness to a violent crime, the reality is that guns make people feel like they are doing something.  One could argue that the confidence it gives them is enough, since they won't actually use it.


I've heard about that law in that town - and crime is very low.  However, there was a study about that town in a sociological research journal, and it was found that most people *had* guns already, the decrease of the crime rates from the 70's generally (which was western world wide) and the rates fluctuate anyway.  And that there was no decrease attributed from the actual ordinance, but that crime rates were generally low and stayed consistently low.

But the law was, if my memory serves, passed in the 80s, when I was in high school or maybe even early college.  So anywhere from 80 to 86 or so.

Yep - the study I read was from 83.  Maybe I didn't write clearly enough - crime in the Western World universally went down from a height in the 1970s no matter what gun laws there were.  For example, crime plummeted in the 90s, but imprisonment skyrocketed.

I have to thank the donators for what they do. I (and many others) appreciate it.  :D

You are certainly more awesome than anyone and i thank yee forit, argh :-*

I thank Pescado and everyone involved on this brave and amazing effort, I hope you all be happy for your whole lives!

Thank you all, for everything.

minou

I want to thank every last one of you! haha I'm a single mom working at a toy store making $7.25 an hour and barely getting by as it is... So of course I don't have the money to pay for all the paysites out there.... You all make it possible for us to have these wonderful items that shouldn't have to be payed for in the first place. So I thank you for that :)

Ashley

I'M SOOOOOOOOOO GLAD TO YOU!!!! YOU'RE THE BESTEST!!!! I LOVE PMBD AND ALL THE COLABORATORS!!!! WHEN I START WORK I'M GONNA GIVE YOU MI FIRST PAY!!! SERIOUSLY.... I RELLY GONNA DO IT, JUST WAIT...
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Sincerely, thank you! I am saving up a big bundle for you.  ;D

I wish to thank EA for their latest patch and it's effect on TSR  ;D

Thank you to all who are involved in providing the booty. =)

 :D   THANK SOOOOO MUCH FOR HELPING US TO GET THE PAID STUFF THAT (MOST OF US) WE CANNOT GET!!!!   THANX   :-*

You're welcome, though there's no need to SCREAM IT UP MY ASS!!! -  ;)

That left an image that I could have done without... Bare ass, megaphone with a bearded guy screaming into it and the target jumping about five feet straight into the air. :D

I want to tank my mom, and my dad, and I wanna thank my friends, and god... and... and... and myself, and mom and dad...

Well, not really, I want to thank you guys a bunch for making it able for me to have a ton of
new toys to play around with aaaaaand... well, I don't know, I didn't prepare a thank you speech.

Thank you for not only providing me with free goodies I truly couldn't afford on my own, but also for the laughter :D

thanks for everything :)

PMBD =  :) Yay - CHEERS to you!

Paysites =  :'( - lame

I've been here a while but I've never said thank you. So thank you!

Even though most pay crap is crap, some of it is good and it's because of you guys that we get to have it in our games.

Welcome to all the new landlubbers :) Have some rum and read the FAQ here http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/index.php/topic,1104.0.html Donations for the booty is also explained in it. Sharing is caring, sharing is good, sharing makes your karma all happy and beautiful!

If you have some technical questions about the sims like ZOMG it ain't working!, it's in the Ask a pirate thread there http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/index.php/topic,1610.0.html

If you want to show us your shining free creations and/or need some advise to create, it's in that thread: http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/index.php/topic,1972.0.html

Thank you

Amazing work as per usual, thanks a lot!

Thank  you

Thank you for today's updates, you make my game real fun

Thank you for the update! Appreciate all the time and effort put into these! :D

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE UPDATES!!

Thanks for the updates, OMG..Slephora, yessssss!!!!!!!

Thanks for the updates!  :D

Big thank you for the latest update! And thank you to all who donate!!  :D

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