PMBD

First, a bit of introduction.  I found this site from a link from a post on the Maxis forums.  I followed the link because I was intrigued; a few other posters commented that this site was ripping off someone who had created content for the game and was taking donations for their work.  After looking around a bit, I felt compelled to register and write this.

Abso-fucking-lutely brilliant!  I find asking for "donations" for content that is clearly derivitive of EA's product, and hence falling under their EULA which prohibits charging for such content, somewhere between distasteful and outright nauseating.  I love the idea, and I applaud your efforts.  

My only advice, though, is that you update your "legal" section.  Some of that stuff is pretty funny, and I'm sure there's a lot more of it that's come to you besides what's listed.  It's quality content in-and-of itself, and that's what this site is all about, right?  

Well, at least that's part of what this site is all about.

Keep up the good work of being bad.

Heh heh...welcome.

You'll soon meet our fearless leader, the one, the only, Pescado! I suspect, if you have suggestions on the legal section, he'd be at least willing to listen. He will make fun of you and probably stomp on your head while he does, but that's just his way of saying 'hi'.

Hope you enjoy our little community. And get yerself a pint of rum...you're suspsicously sober!  :lol:

Or:

"That's a great idea.  I'm glad I thought of it!"

welcome! im am SO happy that a link to this site was found on the BBS, i hate those idiots! (benes, oh my god, benes!-ridiculous) glad you approve. pescado doesnt mean anything by what he says, lol, you have to just learn to love him!

I found it on the BBS too!
It is nothing compared to this site.
I just love how the people post the same questions over and over there.
They don't know what the "search" button is, and they ask like they're the first people to play the sims ever.

I'd give you two benes, but I'm all out for the next 24 hours.

aawwww peas.... :(

The BBS is a blessing in disguise.  I go there to try an convert people away from the EA site.  Every chance I get I'm like.. "Don't download from the exchange!  Don't look at tutorials in the story exchange.. GUH!"  I also put my 2 cents in whenever people ask about pay stuff too (always with a link to the booty).  Reading the same questions over and friggin' over is taxing, but thinking of all the eyes I'm opening makes it worth while.

You know, I'm glad somebody else said something about the EA BBSers and their vomiting of "benes" all over each other.  I've been on enough boards to realize that every one has its own unique culture, but that level of forced cuteness should be beaten out of a person.  I can only imagine a clique of bubblegum popping twelve year old girls convincing some partial lobotomy recipients that saying "kudos" wasn't saccharine enough, and for some reason chirping "good" in Italian was agreed upon as a replacement.  

Eh, maybe I'm just being a grouchy old fuck, but I'm sticking by my position of "beatings for benes".  Which is another reason why I'm glad to have found this place.  

And I hope Piscado at least means what he says about doing this to piss paysite owners off.  I think it's a worthy cause.

Welcome to the forum, I am quite new myself, and I am enjoying using some of those creations that creators think that charging us money is legal, when it says that creators should not charge money quite clearly in the EA End user licensce.  :lol:

Well, you should fit in fine in pescado-land, as Pescado has labeled himself a "fat obstreperous jerk", frequently says such things as "I'm old and I have a long beard!" and bitches about kids today. He also heartily endorses beatings.

Long lost brother, maybe?

Check out  http://www.moreawesomethanyou.net/smf/index.php for more fun with Pescado.

Possibly, but more likely a case of "great minds think alike, and fools seldom differ".  :wink:

Ha Ha so fucking funny! I heard about it on the BBS too. It was nothing but warm fuzzies for PMBD on the thread though. Too funny.

Ha ha! That is exactly what he said when I came up with the names for the newest forums at MATY in honor of the newest MATY Modder.

I was so proud.

And yes, you should fit in quite nicely, BudgetMessiah.

Welcome, M'dear. Congrats on being a survivor of the official site.  :shock:  Just thinking about that site makes my bowls explode..

LG

Where is that guy? I see his name mentioned often, but i've never
seen the man.

Read some of the threads and you'll see him pop up here and there, and if you notice quite a few people have him quoted in their siggis....

(out of lurk mode)  

Once you've tried some of these so called creations (that would force you to sell a kidney to donate to all of those sites in the booty) you'll be taking them out faster than you put them in.

Mind you there is something pleasing about watching the ugly townies sporting gap ridden peggy and rose hair while special CAS sims go about a la Nouk!  Means I can spot a townie quickly when it shows itself. :lol:

Kracken, you mean the Dizzy Gilespie cheeks and jowls aren't clue enough?  :wink:

I have removed more content in the last six months...I can recall downloading practically every community item from Sims2Studio, for example, and then watching my game turn into a fiery ball visible from space.

Delete delete delete delete.....

Yep the Goopy factor does it every time, makes me cringe.  I stuck him with a Peggy Hair in my game, complete with gaps.  It sort of makes him look complete-ly worse!  :lol:

(edit) I call all of the ugliness of townies the Goopy Factor!

New legal threat update.

Lol it's bullshit. They haven't got a leg to stand on, as we say in Holland.

I said that, yes. That's why it's a bogus legal threat and is in the mockery section.

Who's that mysterious Goopy the penultimately ugly Sim that everyone is talking about? Can't be the llama Goopy from uni, 'cause while he isn't particularly cute (as in Shodan's or Schuldig's sense of cyuuuuuteh), he's alright?  :roll:

Oh, hilarious.

That's from world sims, which is a recent paysite edition - this guy quibbles about having to refund $40 to someone who accused him of defrauding the credit card, and so sure of his rightness, the fool took the owner to court, costing himself far more than just refunding the damn money.

http://forums.worldsims.org/showthread.php?t=10329



Shake in your shoes people! Teh lawers is here!

That new legal threat has my tentacles shaking :lol:

If I am understanding right, don't people actually receive the downloads in exchange for a "donation?" If so, the credit card company and Paypal were 100% right. Is he trying to say that because the item is not "material" that you are not purchasing something with a "donation?" Am I reading this right? I mean this is a paysite right? Not just a forum. They have "member" areas that you have to "donate" to access which contain the downloads... right?

Perhaps I've overlooked it, but nowhere in the legal notice do I see the name of this "agent" of the "legal department". Ms. Castillo's name is bandied around quite a bit, but not the agent's.

If this "agent" were a lawyer, he or she would also post his or her name on the notice. I doubt that his/her/its parents' last name is Department, and that his or her Mom wanted to name the baby after Mom's brother Uncle WorldSims. I've received enough real legal notices to know that the name of the lawyer, or the very least, the name of the firm (NOT "so-and-so legal department") is on an American legal notice. Also, he or she would cite the specific statute involved.

Also, is Uncle WorldSims Department going to go all the way to Malaysia to try to stop Pescado? What a joke. This guy (ManagerJosh?) definitely made me chuckle, anyway. I guess he'll just jack the subscription prices up higher to cover the difference for the airfare and hotel.

And now I can see why this guy needs to charge $40 more (he gets only  4 to 8 subscriptions a year? hmm .... ). It's to pay that huge legal department he keeps under retainer! :)

It is all frankly gobbledegook to me, and resembles no legal text that I've ever read.  Someone suggested it for My Sim Site, and when I checked it out, I couldn't make heads or tails of it.  

There were other references to this incident, and it seems that the complainant was talking about World Sims charging his card without authorisation. It was merely a donation to the site, such as those donations to Nouk's site, without any benefit to the person who made the transaction.  So, rather than refund the $40, this fool starts a war of attrition about it, and uses this post it seems to justify a paysite.  To be honest, the whole thing is so fragmented and all over the place that it's hard to discern how exactly this system works.

ManagerJosh was also in at the FFFS when it started, lauding his free site assistance, and how he offered free sites to all (looks like one of those early pay sim sites).  I'm pretty sure that Inge booted him soon after.  Of course, this is all sensible fiscal policy if all it takes is $40 to put you in the hole.



Letterhead has "worldsims legal department", which is of course, the same "legal department" that made a frivolous lawsuit instead of refunding the $40.  Surprised he hasn't tried to appeal it in The Supreme Court or the Court of Appeal (insert American term) or something.



Don't put it past him - he's willing to go to the mat for $40, I wouldn't be surprised if he did - landing on the docks in Malaysia, and then screaming for the "Pescado server" and bullying the people who live there until he finds it.

It appears to be a cut and paste legal form from one of many sites online, where you plug in your info and it generates a letter/form for you.

Silly gurl.

Regarding the $40 thing...how....petty. If it had been $4000, or even $400, it might have been worth complaining about. But forty bucks? I can drink that much in an hour. Forty bucks is child's play.

Oh. Right. She's probably 12. Forty bucks is probably a decent amount when you're 12...especially if you don't get an an allowance.

Silly gurl.

Erm, well, I just read that "hot mess" of a legal letter.  I have just one thing to say..

Anything worth downloading from SimFreaks in the booty? :lol:

I'm amused.
I'm trying to work out if I'm more amused there is a legal firm called "World Sims", that the SimFreak owner employed such a lawyer to fight her battles for her, that Josh was stupid enough to make a fuss over 40 dollars (and employ such a lawyer) or that Logan-abuse-guy-at-LT is essentially laughing all this off and doing jack all.
How did Pescado get these messages though?

Took me a minute to place the name "World Sims" but then I remembered that this is the same owner that took things that were available for free and put it amongst his things to bloat up his cc content and sell them.  Oh, and of course no credit was given to the creator.

Was a pain to dig up but here's one of the threads about his stealing ways.
http://forums.thesimsresource.com/showthread.php?t=123012

Oh, and here is a thread where HE is saying people stole from him!
http://forums.thesimsresource.com/showthread.php?t=198280

Ya know I'd love to know which copyright act they are trying to use. It has to be some sort of form letter and not an actual attorney. The attorneys we have dealt with on other sites I help with are always very "forth with" about what section of what act they think we have violated. Most have been the DMCA siting that sales ads are in fact a form of "intellectual property."  :roll:


Ah well Pas, if they come get you in Malaysia at least you may get a free trip here to the USA.   :lol:

Wow. So, the customer and a credit company demand refund due to unsolicited transaction via possibly stolen credit card, and this dude not only refuses with smart argument "Hahaha, it's MY money now, I can do whatever I want so suck it up!!!", but goes into lawsuit over it? The nerve this shitpiece has.

Also, all the donation semantics give lovely insight into possible disagreements between a silly paying simmer and a paysite:

Simmer: your stuff I bought doesn't work, gimme back my money.

Paysite: Stuff you bought? Dude, you bought nothing! You made a donation, as it clearly says on the front page right here. Donation means you don't gain anything in return, no product of good or other sort to be used to your benefit. So that we shipped some stuff to you was a totally goodwill gift of us, and it's, you know, RUDE to bitch about a gift Shame on you. *whistles, polishes their halo*

I just read bits and pieces of this... Gawd, I can't BELIEVE this guy!

I know paysite owners are bad, but some are just badder than bad.  :roll:

Yep, he's a real piece of work, isn't he?  I feel bad for his family.