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Title: Am i a bad pirate?.... Post by: Lilyroseisapirate on 2007 March 28, 20:00:43 i hate paysites as well all do, but i have given my donation to mts2. they are ALL free and never hassle me for money and i figured since i have tons of files for this my measley 5 bucks didn't hurt my budget...or do they also use "bandwidth money" for personal gain? :?
Title: Am i a bad pirate?.... Post by: RedLove on 2007 March 28, 20:05:55 Well it wouldn't really matter with MTS2. Even if he is using it for personal gain. There are no files being held back in exchange for money. You get everything for free that you get if you donate. Except when you donate you get put on a faster server,which I heard isn't all that fast.
Title: Am i a bad pirate?.... Post by: Quorneater on 2007 March 28, 20:08:04 That's funny, cos I am cancelling my monthly sub to MTS2 after today's fiasco.
Title: Am i a bad pirate?.... Post by: Quorneater on 2007 March 28, 20:10:23 Oh and there is stuff on MTS2 that you can't use without paying. There are several recolours of pay meshes. Not that it goes into Delphy's pocket exactly, but he could have done more for the antipaysite movement than he has done, if he was serious about it.
Title: Am i a bad pirate?.... Post by: missangelica on 2007 March 28, 20:18:21 today's fiasco? do tell.
Title: Am i a bad pirate?.... Post by: Pyromaniac on 2007 March 28, 20:22:25 I'm curious about it too. What happened, exactly?
Title: Am i a bad pirate?.... Post by: RedLove on 2007 March 28, 20:25:49 I think she's referring to the Delphy/Universal Sims thing.
Title: Am i a bad pirate?.... Post by: Quorneater on 2007 March 28, 20:29:32 Yup.
Title: Am i a bad pirate?.... Post by: KikiGo on 2007 March 28, 20:29:59 Can someone fill me in..? What happened? I got that really weird email about making a donation..but I feel like im missing something here.
Title: Am i a bad pirate?.... Post by: RedLove on 2007 March 28, 20:34:02 Go to the Universal Sims thread in Arr?. We don't need to hijack this thread. It'll tell you all you need to know :D
Title: Am i a bad pirate?.... Post by: Surelyfunke on 2007 March 28, 20:38:23 http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/viewtopic.php?t=567
Title: Am i a bad pirate?.... Post by: redisenchanted on 2007 March 28, 21:33:35 You don't have any way of knowing if the money you give to MTS2 is meeting bandwidth needs or paying someone's salary, since the financial details of the site are not public.
It is different from paysites though, because all content is free. Title: Am i a bad pirate?.... Post by: missangelica on 2007 March 28, 21:58:52 MtS2 used to have a bar that filled up as they reached the target amount for a year's worth of hosting and then donations would be closed after it was reached but that's gone now.
We don't know how much money is being given to Delphy and what it is being used for. What I do know is that when Delphy does try to take a break the site crashes and stays that way until he returns. He does put a lot of work and time into the site. However, that does not mean he's worthy of being given money to without question to where it's going. I'd rather directly pay the host than give him money and so as a result I will not donate to MtS2 or any site anymore. Title: Am i a bad pirate?.... Post by: wicked_one on 2007 March 28, 22:03:33 at one point in time there was a page telling you details about what your donations go to and how much things cost (sort of like a monthly expense report), but it disappeared and hasnt come back.
The content (and the help/tutorials) is completely free and it always has been. So it shouldnt be compared to a paysite which holds content back and wont give you any help or support for their own downloads lol Title: Am i a bad pirate?.... Post by: Quorneater on 2007 March 29, 07:32:56 Yeah MTS2 has actually *caused* two sites to have to go pay to pay off huge debts. If they encourage sites already struggling to take up hosting with them, and then don't give any basic help to monitor wether their costs are mounting, and then give them a huge bill they had NO WAY of knowing was coming - that is less helpful to the health of the community than allowing the site to fold and start up again elsewhere (on a normal capped but safe hosting agreement) when they are ready.
Title: Am i a bad pirate?.... Post by: KikiGo on 2007 March 29, 19:38:58 thanks for the link to the topic, interesting read for sure...
Title: Am i a bad pirate?.... Post by: JoJo on 2007 April 03, 19:21:59 Quote from: "missangelica" We don't know how much money is being given to Delphy and what it is being used for. What I do know is that when Delphy does try to take a break the site crashes and stays that way until he returns. He does put a lot of work and time into the site. We do know that the site brings in enough money for Delphy to have been unemployed for over a year. He even admitted this. Title: Am i a bad pirate?.... Post by: Requip on 2007 April 03, 21:45:26 Quote there was a page telling you details about what your donations go to and how much things cost Has Delphy explained why it's been gone? Has anyone asked (or is anyone ALLOWED to ask about it)? Title: Am i a bad pirate?.... Post by: JoJo on 2007 April 04, 04:42:26 Someone ought to go post a new topic over there asking just that.
Title: Am i a bad pirate?.... Post by: Jojoba on 2007 April 04, 12:53:57 Well Delphy and other Mods do read the stuff over here so they might already be aware of it. I think its a very good idea to have that donation bar thing back *hint hint to MTS2 mods*
Title: Am i a bad pirate?.... Post by: redisenchanted on 2007 April 04, 21:38:07 Well, it's not a good idea if you're making loads of money and want to keep it that way. That's the only reason I can think of for not posting it.
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