PMBD

Found it in Carla Nivens links

http://www.ameliiya.com.au/home.php

Oh we know her. She's been around a while.

It's...C STRING Girl!  :lol:

And seriously. Since when is Amelia spelled with two consecutive i's AND a y?

It looks like she hasn't really been active since the first thread was started about her.  Maybe all the hate letters got to her?  She certainly has a enough  ads on her site (e.e)

:x  Her site SUCKS ASS!
I looked through it to see what she had for free, and I downloaded the eyes and two of the dresses.  Her eyes are pretty cool actually (a lot of the eyes have pinned pupils, and I like the way that looks), and the two dresses i got were okay, but the rest of the clothes she has are horrible.  I don't see how anyone would download a lot of that stuff for free, much less pay for the crap she puts in the members section.  And, don't you just hate sites that put up sections and don't put anything in them?  Like, she advertises Genetics (and within genetics, Skin, Eyes, and Hair, while she only has eyes), Clothes (and names all of the gender and age groups, although she has nothing for males except child, and nothing for Elder fmales), Makeup (which she has none of), Sims (again she doesn't actually have any), Objects, and Houses and Lots, both of which she does not have.  She also has a couple of themes things.
Sorry for ranting, I just really hate sites that do that.  
I hope she realizes that no one is dumb enough to pay for her shit (or maybe I am overestimating the intelligence of the people in the simming community), and decides to keep her stuff free!

Meh the only person who would buy her stuff is Carla. Shes not very well known, and the downloads arent that good >.<
eta..basicly what Ihop just said

Heh, CaptainJojoba, Carla probably wouldn't even buy her shit.
And actually, it's Lhop, I was just too stupid to capitalize the "L" when I signed up for the account.  So everyone thinks it's Ihop.  I guess that's what I get for not paying attention to how it looked when I typed it.

lol, sorry lhop! and yeah even carla wouldnt... ameliiya isnt doing very well for a paysite...maybe its emilie/zadie back again!!!  :lol: lol

looks EXACTLY like " lhop" as in how the resturant uses it in their iogo
 ;^ )   (logo).   I thought the same thing! lol

Is her stuff worse than Carla's? I get a Server  not found error.

Me also :lol: Maybe she closed already. I went to Cardrew's site and clicked on the link still the same error

i found her site a long time ago and downloaded some of the clothes which don't have the best textures in the world but they aren't as bad as carla's bucket-filled atlaua dresses and gigantic-boobed ballerina-mesh bikinis and i also downloaded that one eye on her site with the clock pupils which i love looking at but haven't used yet haha

i don't think the site is that bad but my opinion would probably change if she put pay crap up :[

I can't get to the site either.
*was going to write something else but it looked wrong :oops: *

Well the site does seem dead...she might be adding the members section on though or some other shizzle

The site went down as soon as I started to look through it.  Omeg, I have amazing DOOM powers!

..just found this at a forum i'm on...knew I recognised the name Ameliiya from somewhere...this was written by her back in february with her reasoning for the member section:

HAHAHAHA!!
Now that's the awesomest reason I've ever heard.
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
 :roll:

:lol: It is very -unique-

so the secret is out.... Pescado plays party poker!  :lol:

What in the hell? So somebody was stalking her? Pescado =| Methinks you need a L-I-F-E. I got mine from walmart 2 for 3$.

Nah just kidding but seriously...who would waste their time stalking her...

What makes he they were a pirate anyway?

Ah, I remember reading that as well.  Now I know who she is.  She did come up with some unique reasons for having a pay section.  And the infamous Lyric came on to defend her and be buddy-buddy.

It confuses me greatly...has she come up on this site before? Because the 'they' isnt just Pescado..unless she is exceptionally paranoid..hmmm. And yes her buddy LyricLee was backing her up 100%

Ah paysites, they make me laugh.

Have you read this (http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/viewtopic.php?t=219) thread?

I took a screenshot of her statement that she was going to try and support herself from her website but it's on another 'puter. I'll post it when I can.

I remember that very well and can confirm, in case you doesn't find it.

I haven't the slightest idea what "party poker" is or who this person is. Clearly it must be the peanut gallery that is responsible.

Firstly it's Ameliiya not Amelia. Not pronounced anything like Amelia. Otherwise i would have named the bloody site Amelia. The reason it's been dead for awhile is because i work and have had a bunch of personal shit happening. Also looking for a new host because clearly my host in dead. Not sure what happened there.

As for the Lyric Lee bullshit i've had her msg me a few times but i'd never even talked to her before then. But of coarse anyone that has an opinion different from you guys must be buddy buddy with eviiiilll Lyric Lee. Pfft.

Yes, the 'they' i was referring to was you guys. It was all posted in that thread that was linked before. When the member's section opens (yes it's opening thanks for bringing it up again noob) it's only going to have a few services not any meshes (that's what i've decided now anyway). The only reason i'm even opening a members section is because i'm obligated. No you don't get a reason or further explanation because well, i can't be bothered. What's the point in giving you something else to criticize.

Also in regards to the having the names for genders etc up but no downloads that's because i plan to make them in the future and want people to know that. It's not like i've linked them to a blank page. None of them are clickable. If i tried to make my site have not a single thing that was annoying to anyone there wouldn't be a site because someone is always annoyed about something. Nothing is perfect and i really couldn't be bothered changing it either.

I'm actually kind of over the whole sims thing but like i said i'm obligated. The whole sims world is filled with more bitchiness and in your words 'twelveness' than fucking high school.

Ok I'm completely confused....Who's life are you living then, that you are OBLIGATED to open a sims site, plus including a pay section.  If you didn't do it I don't anything anyone would give a shit sorry, but you don't really make a difference to the community.  

If you don't wanna do sims then don't!  You're young, go live your life, who really gives a shit if you don't do it!

Like i said without any explanation you aren't going to understand it. I got myself into something serious with this before i knew about the EULA. If i had have known i would have never opened a website with a member's section. Honestly i would have much preferred uploading to MTS2. I will however give you my reason for not giving you an explanation, i don't trust any of you and i'm sure you'll find a way to use it to fuck me over in reality. I have enough troubles without giving myself more.

Also i'll only be having the member's section open until somewhere like September because it is then that my obligation ends. Not too far away.

Hon, sorry to burst your bubble but i don't think any of us really care about who you really are IRL and what you do.  All we care about is the whole pay section, if you didn't do it, then you know what....you would never have registered on our radar.  That's all there is to it.  AND you know how this site is, you've obviously been around for awhile, and you know the system, so why you are acting all upset and all i don't get.  You're not getting any special treatment, you are getting what every paysite gets.  Unless of course you are really a dramawhore and are feeding off this attention....which is a whole 'nother thing.  

Oh and we don't care about your reasons, as any reason you give wouldn't justify having a paysite.

I'm not upset at all. No bubble has been burst because there was none to begin with.

I registered on your radar for 'mentioning' that i 'may' open a paysite. I got a lot of shit for nothing. If i had actually opened a paysite then i'd understand all the bullshit and invasion because that's what you guys are about. But i didn't and still haven't.

But now you are doing the double talk....(you edited your first post saying that you'll only have the member section up till Sept)  so right there you are saying that you'll be pay....yeah you haven't YET that's obviously the key word.

Look it Fresh Prince...he had REALLY valid reasons for opening a paysite (and if one was going to use those then his were the best reasons) but you know what it still didn't justify him opening it up.  And in the end he went free, because he realized that it was the right thing to do.

So whatever your obligations are there's always a way around them...alternatives....

HA. Not these obligations. There are way better things you could be devoting your time to other than 'omfg paysites *tear* onoesss!1!1111!!!!'. I won't be charging for meshes or anything that involves the EULA either so it's not going to be illegal and therefore none of you should give a shit.

I edited my first post btw to add in things that i forgot. They weren't tacked onto the end or anything. Also i'm wondering what you classify as a REALLY valid reason. As far as i've seen absolutely nothing is a valid reason. Also what's wrong with editing posts? I'm sure that if i made one tiny spelling mistake like this 'ive' then i would receive a bunch of petty bullshit from you.

You seem to want us to make a far bigger deal of you than we are prepared to make.

I remember all the stuff said about you before, and how you pulled your picture from another forum after we saw it, showing that you watch if we talk about you pretty closely, and pretty constantly.

You do want the drama, and that's why you're back here again.

As for valid reasons - I don't think that someone with a relatively good PC (enough to play the sims), money for the electricity to run it, and a purchase of the sims, leisure time enough to create and not work is truly poor, no.  Those resources enough, would bring in far more than a small paysite, with, as I hear it, little content and probably 3 purchasers.

I'd actually prefer all the shit about me to stop. The only reason i come here is because i'm not the kind of person to just sit back and take it or let people slander my name.

Don't tell me what i do and don't want either. You don't know me at all as do none of you here and your assumptions are made from comments over the internet.

My mum bought my PC, my mum pays the electricity bills, i paid for the sims with my youth allowance (when i was younger and still receiving that) and as for leisure time i work and haven't updated my website in a month so clearly i don't have as much leisure time as you seem to think i do. Honestly, you've got no idea. How can people be stupid enough to crap on about shit they have no idea or facts about? Such a waste of time. *cue bitching because my mum paid for things* Woot for me, my mum loves me.

Like i said, i'm not opening a member's section because i want to earn money and be a big rich evil paysite person for you to all bullshit on about i'm doing it because i'm obligated. Sometimes it seems as if people here can't read things as they are said and always seem to have to find some hidden meaning that suits them better.

THis thread has become an interesting experiment in psychology...particularly the psychology of personal investment.

I unfortunately know the story first-hand: a hobby becomes all-encompassing, people begin to rely on you, and suddenly you feel irreplaceable, or worse yet, obligated to people...and if you fail, the whole thing will crumble. And the truth is, whether you are there or not, things will continue on. And you begin to hate it, feeling like everyone's expectations surrounding this hobby is your personal responsibility. (MANY a non-profit organization has ebbed and flowed with the machinations of people like this...why do you think there are so many community theaters? )

After time, you realize that the hobby/charity/organization you were involved in is NOT meant to be joyless, and obligations go out the window.

So...I don't believe 'obligation' comes into gaming. Sure, a sense of personal responsiblity (such as doing the best cc you can do, putting your best foot forward in site design, modding competently so that items don't bork your fellow gamers' games, effectively helping others with complete tutorials, etc.), but OBLIGATION? If I'm ever obligated to anyone in this gaming community, I have bigger problems than worrying that the members of a forum are bitching about me.

Now if you owe someone money over a game, you have an obligation to pay up. But that obligation is personal, not related to the game/game cc. If you can't afford certain aspects of the game, you find other ways to make it work (free hosting sites, free FTPs, sites happy to take your work, like MTS2).

But 'obligation' in a hobby smacks of self-iimportance without an equally strong sense of joy.

I'm a pirate here - and I have a responsibility to do what I commited to do. My only obligation is to quit gracefully when it is no longer fun.


:::::climbing off my soapbox::::::

AMELIIYA:

Okay, I don't wanna slag you off because that would be wrong, so I'm going to try and say this as best I can. If you feel it's too bad, then, er, I tried.

Firstly, paying for anything to do with the game is against the EULA. You don't have to be charging for meshes; it's still game content using the frameworks by EA and the now defunct Maxis to make the game look pretty (and I've heard that naked sims wandering around w/ no furniture would be quite boring...and distracting! :wink: ). So therefore if it is related to this issue of against the EULA.

Secondly, our job is to A) get rid of paysites, B) make people aware of the wrongs of paysites, C) give people the booty goods that they can't have w/o paying because paysites are shitty, and D) stop more paysites springing up.
As of this moment, no, you are not a paysite (not an anything really; you can't deny that ^^). But the mere suggestion of it having a pay section automatically means we want to stop it happening. That is the reason for us nagging you. We want the paysite section to go away, and once it does we'll leave you be.

Thirdly, and finally (I don't have the energy to try and say any more ^^^ :wink:  8) ) you shouldn't have an obligation to anyone over some game. If someone is forcing you, tell them you don't fucking care anymore about the game and tell them to get lost! They can make their own bloody content, mmkay?? You shouldn't need to do it for them. And if you need to get money; you have a job, ne? That should give you your job and money and whatnot. If you don't have much time on your hands, why the bloody hell are you using it to create anyway for a game you are not interested in anymore?! Go and be a young adult!!

 :lol:  8)

There!! ^^^ :wink: Did that help anyone at all or was it a waste of 10 minutes of my life?? :?

is this another one of those *-unique-* excuses?  :roll:

I wasn't going to post this as I'm not an argumentative person and it would probably end up being slandered, so in advance: this isn't meant to be rude.

ameliiya - you are the only person who actually really does care about this - we don't.

You have already expressed that part of your reasoning for creating a members section is to spite us, so you have actually brought this upon yourself.

There is no 'obligation' that makes you create a simsite...if you dont want to do it then just let go, leave it.

Or if you feel that you must share your creations then upload to MTS2 - people there wouldnt bash you for almost becoming pay - look at how Elau's site closed, no-ones had a big go at her about it at MTS2.

You obviously feel a responsability to share your creations, so share them at a free site where they can be enjoyed by more people.



And yes Sherrie, its all very -unique- on this thread....  :roll:

All I care about is how you actually pronounce "Ameliiya," please and thank you.

It's pronounced "whiner"

Or attentionwhore!

(I didn't say that because I'm being nice. Really! :wink:  :lol: )

Dream on.  It's called Paysites must be destroyed doofus.  We're not scared of you, or that a paysite owner might think badly of us.

And slander is when your reputation is at risk - and the only person who is at risk of slander has to have a name - I don't even think most people know your sites exists, and if they did, well, they'd be slandering Elmo and his girlfriend wouldn't they?

Well, this all is as interesting as watching two flies fuck.  It took searching for the original thread (http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/viewtopic.php?t=219) to understand what was going on.  

It reminds me of an analogy.  It's like a dog that squats on your bed to poop *while you're watching him* and you beat him up so bad he can only limp away.  He returns an hour to do the *same thing*!

Ameliiya Amelia-
By posting here, you are showing you DO care.
If you don't want to be talked about you wouldn't be reopening the site.
Telling us that you won't bother telling us your reasons for reopening the site proves they're inane.
Further more if you feel *obligated* then you are dumber than we give you credit for.
Do you really think we're that blind that we wouldn't notice you reopening your site and trying the same shit?  You could of at least pulled an Emilie and showed up with a different name.  Oh wait, you couldn't be BOTHERED.

All I wanna know is how are you obligated to become a paysite?

Mm, yeah.  The hidden meaning I keep getting from the oft repeated refrain of "I'm obligated" is that someone is *gasp* blackmailing you!

Given her very public sharing of a picture just in her bra on s2c, it wouldn't be a stretch to think she has more.  I'm confused as to why someone would find those and choose to blackmail her over them.  Her stuff was mediocre at best.

Why does she even bother to elaborate? I'm pretty sure nobody cares.

OK OK OK! I understand now!! She's opening a paysite because she needs to pay off the money that was fined because she broke the EULA!!! So she's going to break it again to pay for the other time she broke it. DUHHH Stupid Sheeple! xD!

I never knew I could understand dumb ass... :( I'm scared hm?

It's more the whole dodgy 'I've got a terrible secret' quality to the whole thing. :)

Aw, paranoia...bad, bad thing.

One thing really bugs me though, I can't for the life of me understand why certain people want to sign up here when they are so obviously not inspired by the only big inspiration behing this site. It's like willingly and consciously jumping into the lions cage and then complain about the bites and bruises (and the occasional slaughter). Crybaby. :roll:

HideTheRum, you're not thinking of the one inalienable truth.  People are stupid.

See i actually have a reason but because i haven't given an explanation and you all have nothing else to go off you're just going to go on with the same bullshit that you said with everyone else e.g. attention whore. If i was going to bother being an attention whore i'd be doing it in reality where it's real rather than searching for attention over the internet.

I don't remember ever saying i don't care. Obviously i care to a certain extent or i would ignore it, and you're all posting in here because you have a certain amount of 'care' (for many different things not including me).

I'm not being blackmailed and it's not because i have money to pay off. Even if you all tried your very hardest there is no way you would guess and there is no way you would find out. My obligation is not that i feel like the community needs my stuff, fuck i know i'm not the best creator in the world and i never said otherwise. You all seem to actually make up shit so that you have something to bitch about.

Also how am i reopening my site? Just because my host is down right now doesn't mean the site has closed.

The things that i would have in the members section wouldn't have anything to do with the EULA. They wouldn't have anything to do with bodyshop and aren't creations you can put into your game. Yeah, i don't really think people are gonna pay for it either but i honestly couldn't care. All the actual game content is going to be in the free section anyway.

"Elmolovescyclops", go find a hole to crawl up in and stay there.  No one wants your rehashed creations.  The community doesn't want your stuff and certainly doesn't *need* it!

So you say you have a valid reason, but you won't explain what it is, so people should just believe you and if we don't, we're bad? Fuck off . I don't have to believe a word anyone else says (and if they refuse to back up their assertion with evidence, it's extremely unlikely I will believe them) and I don't need to stop saying so because they don't like it. And how do we know that you're not an attention whore in real life? It is possible to be both you know.

I'm not a liar. I'm not sure missangelica why you're going on about the community not needing my stuff when i just said the exact same thing. Read idiot.

I would explain the valid reason except for the fact that i know most of you are assholes and will use it to royally fuck me over. Anyway i'm over this.

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out *waves*  :D

Ok so you just expect us to believe you because you say "I have a good reason I swear!" Um that's not likely. You are jumping to conclusions thinking that we will just jump your ass for the reason *not given* If it's a good reason then you won't get "royally fucked." I'm starting to believe there is no reason since you are going all "Noes it mi sekret!" on us.

Also do you expect to sit there and call us names and berate us and expect nothing in return? Are you stupid?

If you are so over this my dear...why oh why do you keep coming back?

Hide the Rum: I think you mean "Don't let the doorknob hit ya where the good lord split ya" or at least thats what we say down here :D But yours is just as good :lol:

She can call us names all she likes.  It just further proves she has nothing valid and relevant to say.

I find this whole discussion tedious, especially the bit about how I (we), by virtue of posting on here, am (are) actively harassing paysite owners.

As I've noted before, once you violate the EULA and try to wring money out of your peers for pixels, you're dead to me and cease to exist. No attention, no site hits, no e-mails, nothing.

The most I do is point and laugh.

In Net-Macro-ese: "Plz to not feed the attention hos, kthxbye."

I think the lion's den analogy is apt. I won't seek THEM out, but if they come to our playhouse and Are More Stupid, then they pretty much volunteer for all abuse and dogpiling they get, at least here in the forum. Don't like it? Go away, or lurk and tremble in impotent rage like the other scurvy dog paysite people.

*shrug*

ha ha! "Trembles in impotent rage" is my Indian name.

*sniff* That was...beautiful man

Love, if you're making a paysite, with the members section not for pixels, WHAT ARE YOU CHARGING FOR?!?!?!
And if you say people won't buy anyway, WHY OH WHY are you DOING it?!!!!

I'm not really interested any more. She just seems to be whining, so we whine, then she whines that we whine  :roll: Its all very 12-ish tbh

Hmm, I've been away for only a few days, and it looks like I missed a whole lotta drama.  Why oh why is it that every time I stop going on forums for a couple of days so I can actually play my game does something good have to happen on said forums?!  Oh woe is me...
Oh well.  Elmo, I just want to know, why do you create for a game you don't enjoy playing?  As I mentioned in my previous post, I do like some of your stuff, the other stuff is really not my style, and is a dime a dozen, as you seem to know.  So I'd just like to know why it is so important for you to keep creating?  And what is this "I have an obligation that I can't tell you about" bullshit?  Why would you even mention the "obligation" if you can't tell us what it is.
Oh, and by the way, maybe you do intend to put all that stuff in, and I realize that you don't send people to blank pages, but I still get annoyed when sites have sections advertised that don't have anything in them.  You can get annoyed at me for mentioning that all you want...
I know this has been a redundant post, I'm basically just summing up what everyone else has said, but I just can't go without throwing in my two cents!

I really don't understand, and no, it's not because of my poor language skills.

Statement of "PMBD people" (us) is:
- There's no need nor right to charge money for custom sims content.

Aim of PMBD is:
- Fight and hopefully have the paysite phenomenon cease to exist.
- If not entirely possible, at least give paysites the most hard living we can.

Now, my question is: whatever your personal reasons are, do they reasonabily may us rethink about statements and aims?
If yes, then well, let's talk about it: it may be interesting (and I'm not sarcastic).
If not, or if you don't want to, then WTF are you blabbering about?

But I thought she said that she wasn't gonna include TS2 crap in her members folder?

I'm never gonna find out how to pronounce Ameliiya. :(

*snorts*  Alas, we may never find satisfaction.

Actually, I know: it's "ahm-a-little-shorta-cash"  :roll:

Quick dictionary check:

/bæt'ʃɪt ɪn'seɪn/

Boredom causes strange behavior.  I googled "Ameliiya" to see if there was anything I was missing, and the first ten or so pages are all her, her myspace, or links to her webpage via other sims sites.

Is this one of those things where someone believes they have a 'boring' name, and thus try to dress it up with extra letters?

I'm not even trying to put her down.  I have a weird interest in names and origins of name, and I have a hard time believing that someone would stick their child with a double "i" in their name.

And then a "y"! Why two "i"s AND a "y"?!
And how can it sound different to what it looks like, ne?

Uh huh. So, um... hmm. Ameliiya?

Ah-me-lie-ee-yah?

Amy-lee-ya?

I'll stick with the dictionary check, methinks.

"Ameliiya" is just a big flashing sign that says, "I'm a pretentious prick!"  We must do the proper thing and point and laugh at her.

*points and laughs*

Her parents probably smushed Amelia and Aliyaah together.  I reckon it'd be pronounced Am-a-lee-yah

From what I've read its not her actual name...and its prob pronounced the same as Amelia. Meh *points and laughs again*

Didn't someone say she's Amy?

And I reckon it's spelt "Ameliiya" and sounds like "Sue".

Mary Sue!

Oh yeah! She's DEFINITELY a Mary Sue!!!! lol!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Oh for poops sake, who cares!

Noukiesims sounds like a pornsite! That's way cooler!

And Hecubus sounds like a Spawn of Satan....

...although it's just really a character from The Kids in the Hall. Not a devil at all, really....just "EVIL!"

Sounding like a porn site is definitely way cooler. Like say, Digital Perversion. That's porntastic!

I can't surf your website while family is around for that reason Lieg. ;p  They always think the worst of me! ;_;

I always liked that name - but not because of Kids in the Hall. Hecubus is the wife of King Priam of Troy, who bore Paris and Polyxena, and Hector etc.

She was won by Odysseus at the end of the war, and died of heartbreak on the docks before he could cart her away to her new life of slavery.

got_nerd is right about the pronunciation and none of those names are my real name. The reason that it has two i's is because the name with one i's was already taken and i didn't want to change it so i just added an i. Amy and sims website names with sims in it are boring.

I think it's very nice that way - very pretty.

I see there's still no Members section, but I do like some of the eyes in the free section. I hope they look as cool in the game and weren't altered by Photoshop or PSP. I'm so glad you can download the eyes you want and not have to get the whole set. Let's end the Twelveness it's giving me a headache.