PMBD

TSR vs PMBD - so who are the bad guys?

I am/was an SA at TSR and I was convinced I knew the answer to that question. but now I've had my eyes opened and I've smelled the coffee (and other rather unpleasant odours coming from the TSR direction)

I was offered a FA place with another site (unpaid) and was told I could upload to both them and TSR. (very fair dont you think?) I thought it was very nice of them, and shared my apreciation of this site with my good 'friend' and artist manager, Anita (Atwa) who of course scuttled back to her master Thomas and reported back like a good little robot.

TSR had a dim view of this, as one of the donators to the site I was going to share my work with was a PIRATE! (oh shock & horror) it was insinuated I could not do both. (ohh decisions decisions) I ignored the warning, even though I had not had time to set up anything with the new site, I had not mailed and turned them down. truth was, I was going into hospital, which is why I hadn't set anything up. the site owner was aware of this.

On my return from hospital things were different as TSR, all the stuff I had uploaded there was refused, (my screenshots are crap aparantly)  even though the screens were the same as the others which had been approved. I questioned this and got no offical answer, until yesterday when I was informed by Thomas human shield, Anita, that my other stuff was also 'crap' and should not have been approved either. They blamed an innocent member of staff and her pregnancy hormones. We all know the real reason...

which brings me back to the question who's the good guys? would that be the site that says it ok to work for both?

or TSR who throws out people for even thinking of sharing with a site (whos cousins brother married someone who's step daughter may or may not have known someones uncle who once passed a PIRATE in the street!)

I signed up here last night. and because my name appeared at the bottom of your forum, I got an email from 'the shield'. so I decided to post here.

**waves to Thomas and says 'Hi asshole'**

I'm not joining the 'other site' anymore, as that same site has offered me free hosting for my own site. which is the kindest and most generous thing anyone has done. she set it all up for me last night, no strings, no ultimatums, no accusations.

I am now in no doubt as to who the bad guys really are, and also learned important lessons on 'friendship and dictatorship'

We're pretty much anti TSR, here, due to the vile treatment that they give the rest of us.  Indeed, the reason this sort of thing exists is because paysites branded Blue Soup a thief with no proof (and no thieving).

Must be a lot of pregnancies at TSR what with their 350 slightly different shades of red done with sliders. :twisted:

See none of this would have happened if Blue would have kept her damn charitible money to herself like a proper greedy bastard. I mean.. come on!  Why support free sites when there are so many pay sites to feed?

your creations are better than most of their featured artists, they were hoping you would choose them but i guess they underestimated you.

congrats on getting your own site. I hope more tsr artists follow your lead instead of waiting for tsr to openly treat them like shit

How's about a link to your new site? Hope you're all better now too.

Did you make the hair in your avatar? I love that hair! Snagged it during a free rotation in the days when TSR didn't suck.

So, whose pregnancy hormones do we have to thank for Atwa's approved "recolors"? Whoever that is, her hormones are probably making her blind, since I cannot understand how they ever got approved... :lol:

Seriously, Sherrie, I'm sorry that you had bad experiences with TSR, but I'm glad you've seen the light. Welcome to the pirate boat! Have some rum!

Your stuff is too good for TSR ;)

And it looks like your mini-site there has been deleted! Huzzah!

What's your new site?

Edit:

When I made my offer to TSR artists to defect from TSR, one of the stipulations was that they had to stop uploading their content to TSR.  Does that make me a bad person?

Blue why would you even ask that? No it doesn't make you a bad person. I mean it only makes sense for them to stop feeding the evil blood sucking whore known as TSR

Thanks everyone. I'm really amazed and thankful of your welcome, you are not at all like you have been painted.

no blue soup that doen't make you a bad person, just a smart one!

I later found out it was nothing to do with anyones hormones. seems anita/atwa was annoyed I even thought of joining a site who's donator had insulted her work on here, so for that reason I got set up. the person who supposidly said my stuff was crap hadnt even said that, and my minisite was deleted due to things apparantly I said (but hadn't) so anita/atwa's been stirring with the proverbial spoon, to suit her own needs as usual. I'm just happy to be out of the greedy money orientated clutches of TSR. they treat all their artists like shit and appointed Atwa solely to make our lives more miserable (and to pass on all our private pm's and mails to Thomas) so I'm very happy to leave the twisted childish world that is TSR.

my new site will be sherriesim.com

it's not ready yet, but I'm working on transferring all my stuff over there.

 I am urging everyone not to download any of my files from TSR as those files are hosted without my permission (bunch of pirates they are over at TSR!) and all files will be available for free at the new site (except the unpopular TSR cap which may be replaced with the 'TSR sucks' range of clothing!  :twisted: )

no the hair is not mine it was downloaded from that horrible money grabbing site.

I was sure this wouldn't last very long, so I took a picture, cuz it'll last longer

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o86/doursimforum/sherrie.jpg)

Thank you  :D

Congrats on getting away from tsr.
I can't wait to see the site when it's done!  :)

Life's too short..you don't need that kind of crap. Your free....free :lol:

Good luck with the new site.

I'm sorry for all of the crap you had to deal with at TSR.  I'm glad I've never given any money there, it seems crooked.   They seem to change the rules on the site for non-subscribers every week.  I had you as a bookmarked artist.  I love all of your downloads and I'm so glad you're opening your own site.  Congrats!  :D


Julie =)

Fight the power.  *nod*

My god, she truly is psychotic! :shock:

That was pretty low, blaming something for someone's pregnancy hormones. It's like saying "Oh, she's female, so she has no taste".

So, Atwa is psychotic and misogynist. How interesting.

Dour and Sherrie,  thanks for the screenshot. Hilarious!

Welcome to the site! :)
I am glad you have left TSR, that crazy place.

Why is that bitch your artist manager? You mean that they even appointed "watchers" over SAs? Jeez!
And if your stuff is crap, I don't know what atwa's hideous recolors are called. her stuff matches those of carla niven  :twisted:

I wish that folks like evi would leave TSR. She is too good to be there.
 :roll:

Hi Sherrie_sim, I am glad you decided not to be a TSR tributary :)

The official point of artist managers was someone to be a voice for the artists kind of like a 'go between' or mediator between TSR and the humans. I know this because sadly it was my idea, another artist also wrote to Thomas at the same time as I did with the same suggestion. I, stupidly had to go one step further and suggest Atwa to him. (I'm sorry, feel free to throw rocks at me)

However it didnt take long to realise why Thomas agreed so readily, the real job discription was for her to spy for TSR and she gets paid to do that on top of her FA payments. her role in this is to keep her ear to the ground and report everything back, which she eagerly does by forwarding all mails and msn messages back to Thomas, as well as finding out information at his request.  to cover for this, she pretends that she is there to foward tech support messages, it does not take a rocket scientist to work out that is what the tech support button is for and why would the greedy little bastard pay her to do the job of a button. he wouldn't.

on top of this anita has added her own job discription, as the person who runs the site, this is so top secret that only anita knows about this job, and thomas is blissfully unaware. This job includes, but is not limited to, throwing out people who dont do as anita says, or if they dont chirp with glee when she fills their mailbox with 'FREE special preview downloads' of her ugly stuff.

The general rule of TSR now is please anita and your ok, displease anita in anyway will prompt lies to be sent to Thomas and will result in deletion of your site or account there. no warning given. simple rules really. and suits anita/atwa just fine.

she likes to get her friends on MSN and have them go through the SA listings with her and help HER choose the next FA. she likes to pretend she has that sort of power within the site. whether she has or hasn't I dont know, but she likes people to believe she has, it makes it easier for her to control them. she claims to have chosen agent for SA and confide for FA, she did tell us this before they were promoted, giving the impression it was indeed true that she chose them herself. but there is another way of looking at it, did she simply just LEAK out this info to make it appear she is in control of promotions?

I'd fire her ass... simply for making solid green recolors lol. She wouldn't have the chance to fdo all the rest of the naughty stuff.

But not, I'd like to point out, deletion of your own creations that you'd uploaded there.   :roll:  If they really wanted to disavow all knowledge of you, they'd remove all evidence of your ever having been there in the first place, which I think would be a very good thing, but God knows they can't have that; TSR is like a black hole that sucks in any and every little innocent piece of matter that happens to float by and refuses to relinquish it, even if the universe were to explode.

I'm sorry to hear about how you were jerked around, Sherrie, and I hope that your own site runs much better. :)

Aww, Sherrie I'm glad you got out! I really like some of your stuff. Atwa is so...well, there's not a word to describe her! I'm infuriated that the suggestion of joining a site, where it just so happens a member who didn't like Atwa, donated, made her ban you! That's absolutely disgusting and her ass would be fired if I was in charge!
It's brilliant how your stuff is shit and hers is brilliant, eh? :roll:  :lol:
I love the whole, "we hate you but we're keeping your goodies to make more money!" idea. I mean, didn't they do the same to...Bluesoup or somebody (sorry if I got it wrong :? )? They banned her and left her d/ls.
TSR has proved themselves to be the bad guys once again.
I mean, this week my friend had her account perma-banned because they thought she was sharing files over at SFV. I'm not even sure she even has an SFV acct! She showed me the email and it was revolting, full of "go and laugh about it w/ your buddies over at SFV, oh, and we're not giving you back your money even though you just paid for 6 months and got to use 2 days of it, because we "have proof" you shared your files!"
I already held Thomas and Anita in high contempt.

Now I think it's war. :wink:

You know, I think your friend will be able to stop payment to those bloody bastards over there if she notifies the company that she wants to put a stop payment on it. That's if its an on-going thing and not a lump sum taken all at once. Plus, I think they have to refund it if she is not able to get what she paid for. Hopefully, she will be able to. I would hate to think she would have to threaten them with lawyers, but as we all know, lawyers are the biggest and scariest pirates in the world! They stole her money with a fraudulent claim, they have to have proof before they can make it stand up before a court. Assholes... Can I get my boots out now?

That's discusting and pure blatent theft! did your friend pay with paypal? if so they have protection against fraudulant sellers on the internet, she may be able to recover her money from paypal or even get paypal to suspend payments to the ToSseR's mail address until this act  is investigated. She should also contact her bank and report the fraud.

He does not have 'proof' the only proof that tosser has is most likely some bullshit spy lies that A TWAt fed him.

If your friend could take it to a small claims court, he would be liable for the costs.

If they paid using Paypal they can report it to them that they were denied the goods they paid for.  Paypal would get them their money back.

I share this "friend" and she never really actually said how long she had her sub. She did say however that TSR said they wouldn't give her a refund. Although we don't know for how long she has had her sub and how long she has been able to use it. I would post the whole letter here but she doesn't want it out. It was really kind of funny because TSR pulled this whole "You are no longer welcome in the Sims 2 community" thing. Like they have the right to say who can be in and who can't >.>

Yeah, I made that bit up, the bit about the money (except it did say that, really). :oops:  But I'm sure she said she just renewed it only a little while ago. It's the same difference really.
And Paypal won't give her back her money. She sent them an email complaining. It is theft of money and I said so. It shouldn't be tolerated any longer, especially when the person in question is innocent for the crime she has been accused of.

Shame she won't let us post the email. I'm quite insulted at ToSseR's (I love the whole A TWAt thing too 8)) attitude to this whole thing.

And yeah, like they have the right to say. I thought that was funny when I read the email. It's quite ridiculous in truth...



Precisely! But outwardly she's a model subscriber. She hasn't shared her acct w/ anyone. She doesn't use SFV. She's not a (current) member of here. She's done nothing that would let people say it was truly her fault.



Paden, I give you explicit permission to get out your boots and any other weaponry you would like.

she should try her bank, if she explains to them that she made a payment to a fraudulent internet company who refused to issue her the goods (the bads and the uglies)  that she has paid for or refund her, they may be able to do something or advise her. I dont know where your friend lives, but do they have a 'trading standards' organisation in her country?

I found this report site

https://www.econsumer.gov/pls/econsumer/wimsnery2$com.main?p_lang_seq=1

if everyone refused a refund compalined it may do some good.


the company address needed for these complaints can be found here:

http://www.dnstools.com/?lookup=on&wwwhois=on&arin=on&checkp=on&portNum=80&ping=on&all=on&target=thesimsresource.com&submit=Get+Info

The company behind TSR is oddjob media,  which also has their company address on their website.

http://www.oddjob.se/

And another thing, they are selling something that isn't legally their's to be sold anyway, so IF lawyers were to get involved (highly doubt that this friend would take it that far) then EA would have to get off their asses and actually take a stance.  This is all heresay, I'm sure the "proof" they have wouldn't stand up in ANY court of law.  And does it say somewhere in their TOS that if you file-share (God forbid maybe files NOT from TSR), then they can ban you?  Seriously what real business would do this?  What you do is your own business, and if you get caught then the authorities come in, right?  Or am i wrong.....or just move to Russia where you are able to BUY illegal copies at stores :P lol (seriously I'm in the wrong business, i need to start selling the shit i dl :P)

"These are the general rules that must be followed when it comes to using TSR, its content and our services.


You may not ask for free items in comments or PM's, doing so will result in your account being suspended.
You may only submit creations made by you, no submissions made by others and submitted by you will be accepted.
You may not post recolors of other paysites meshes, unless they are freely available and you have the permission to do so from the original artist.
You may not recolor creations downloaded from TSR, unless you get express permission from the original artist.
Meshes made by Featured Artists may not be uploaded elsewhere and, if you upload recolors of them to other sites, you must include a link for people to come to TSR to download the mesh.
You may not upload any creations you download from here on any other site, including the official exchange.
You may not link directly to our files, you must link to the page(s) that contain the file and download link.
We do not allow content that is not suitable for a PG13 audience, all such submissions will be rejected.
When posting in the forums, be sure to read the forum specific rules first."

TSR not only says that you cant file share..but you cant really make recolours either. If you ask me its just a way to keep people there.... there: aka not go to other sites to get a recolour or whatever.
If that makes sense  :roll:

edit: post went squiwiff. Am replying to post below o_O
second edit: is it just me or are those terms seriously contradictry?! 'You may not post recolors of other paysites meshes, unless they are freely available '...er duh

I love the site Sherrie! Can't wait to go on a downlaod frenzy over there.  :lol:

The site looks Great and the objects look beautiful. I'm very glad you got away from TSR but feel sad that they treat people that way. I have never posted in their forums or PM'd anyone there I only snoop around at new items occasionally.

Where did you get the inspiration for the Coke Objects?
They look like they came straight out of our Coca Cola Classic Cafe.
I live in Wisconsin and we used to go there when I was like 12 but I haven't been there for years now I don't even know if it's still there.

WTG on the site I hope all works out for you.