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I'm not too sure if she's doing it because of PMBD or SFV... although she's talking about modifying the hair's mesh. I guess some creators are slowly taking these matters seriously.

And 15 days is a lot. It sucks for those who donate.

Well, nobody here modified anything. We post the loot in its original form with credit.

I do not donate. Last time I did I got the hair from someone else before Rose could get it to me.

Haha. I eventually don't donate. I think her hair is beautiful, though it doesn't move at all.  I was always wondering if those who own other paysites are really paying for her hair -- or are just sharing. What cracks me the most is this:

Oh Rose is bringing in a killing, you can be sure of that.

I've donated to her before, but I most likely won't in the future.

15 days?! We might all be dead by then!! I don't see how that new policy will actually help matters, it appears quite...um...abstract.

I've never been to rose sims (actually never "donated" for sims 2 stuff)- "donator's advantage"? "normal donation area"? WTF? there are Donators and then normal donation  donators?

So this means that it will take 15 days more for filesharers to get their hands on stuff unless they want to buy it sight unseen? Er... I don't see how that's going to cut down on anything...

Perhaps she means, she's got like, a list of previous customers, and it'll be available to them first, and then later to people who havn't already 'donated' to her in the past?
All the same, I agree, I don't see how this'll stop anyone doing anything, not at all...

Clearly it's not.  The people (person?) modding her hair meshes and redistributing them as their own have either donated themselves for them, or got them through a filesharing system.  Either way, they can be got the same way without the 15-day wait.

She's just pissing off potential new customers, not actually solving anything.

I suppose in her twisted business sense that people who are regular donators are not as likely to be filesharers, in this way she possibly thinks she can assure that she at least gets 15 days worth of donations before it hits the fileshare market.

hmm this system seems a little odd -_- , how does it stop people from editing the meshes?? and donators advantage????
*feels all confused*

Perhaps the advantage is just that they'll get it first....the more I sit here and think about it, the more her logic baffles me...

Well, one of the things I have seen consistently complained about is that creators find their files on a share site *just* a day later, or sooner...as if to say 'hey I haven’t even made enough money off of it yet'

According to her 'new' policy, you cant just show up and donate to get the goods unless you have been lining her pockets for a while already, this to me smacks of her wanting to make sure that she gets at least 15 days of donations in before the files end up on the open file share market.

Well, it's funny that the new hair ended up here and other places so fast though, just a day after she put it up, right?

What Rose dosent realise like so many other paysite owners is that the majority of their donators tend to be filesharers.  Making new customers wait is not going to prevent her donation items being shared.

It's funny that, I mean, even years ago, it'd be like, I'd have a sub to one site, a friend of mine would have a sub to some other site, and sure enough, we'd trade files from our respective paid-for sites...It's ALWAYS been happening, it's just funny that it's only become such a massive thing, cos it's slightly more public...

PMBD is just making the whole process easier. XD

Like I said Bluesoup - twisted business sense. Its pretty common that one hand often doesnt know what the other is doing...

Her logic in this is based on wrong information a "friend" gave her. LOl Some friend.
They informed her that file sharers used a new Paypal account every time they donated.
I hate to break it to her but that is untrue and therefor this new plan of hers will not stop file sharers.

However I too have to wonder if she is not griping about someone else and not file sharers. No one I know who shares is altering and taking credit for stuff. Hell File sharers are Honest we pay for our stuff and we share it in tact.
  We do not lay claim and actually do not believe in taking credit for other folks work. So who knows who she is talking about.


Either way she obviously has been given wrong info hell it may be that "friend" she got the info from stealing her shit.  :lol:

Wee

I don't think Rose is talking about us. :P

It would make sense if people were scamming the paypal button so that they end up getting them for free off an invalid accout...

But that's not what she's upset about anyway...And I would be shocked, if that sort of was happening regularly and there wasn't massive pandemonium within the community about it...

I don't think she is talking about the SFV either, though we do have members who have recolored her hair, none of which, to my knowledge have taken actual credit for the mesh.

Again, paysites are always best at shooting themselves in the foot.   I can just think of some of the crap many have pulled because they think it will halt sharing and more often than not it just ends up costing them time and turning away donators.

Speaking of crap pulling here from what I knew Rosesims website was made in China and I knew exactly the price of hosting things over there wasn't that expensive unlike certain standards, it's like she's charging a dollar for this and 2 dollars for that and couple of bucks for any tis and tat and made a very profitable income for this. It's a pretty shrewd business, but Peggysims is much worse....

Just my opinion.

Opinion nothing, hell that's a fact. When you factor in the exchange rate and the low cost of hosting (at least in terms of US dollars) in China, those two are making out like bandits.

Spoken like a true sage  :lol:

Did she change it? It used to be in China and I remember it was slow as hell too.  :P Anyway, even hosting in the US or other places (like Malaysia ;) ) isn't that bad if you know where to go and aren't some dumb noob that goes with the first host you look into.

I decided to loot some of Rose's hair since they looked good in me vague memories, so went to check her page, and...dude, most of them are, like, lame! And that's on photoshopped pictures, imagine how should they look in game. Even her own free stuff looks better than most of her pay hair, and given her insane prices I'm amazed people are ready to pay for them when I don't even want'em for free? :roll:

Oh, I remember that...how slow it was...god, do I ever remember how slow it was...

I wonder how rose can figure out who is on her "previous donators" list... I once donated to her, maybe last year? Cannot remember  :roll:  Paid at least $20 for her first 10 sets. Then I stopped doing that because friends share her files to me even before I know there is a new set comes out  :lol: But this time I tried to donate, just out of curiosity to see how this new "system" works and  to make sure I'm on her list just in case. Then I got an email saying I'm not qualified and have to wait 15 days...

she's one stupid ass person. how in the world can I pay you my hard earned money for merchandise and then you tell me i have to wait 15 days to get it?  :roll:

Said it a thousand times, her policy makes no sense, especially in light of what Dreamwalker's just said...

Beware of Rose Sims! It has recently been confirmed by Rose via email to a member on another forum that Rose shares the paypal account information of suspected 'thieves' with other sites. She has no real proof in the matter but will not hesitate to send out the information anyway.

Please be aware that donating to Rose may result in your personal information being distributed.

Gypsy paypal accounts are the way to go.

And I will be complaining to Paypal and I hope it results in getting her account suspended.  I've donated to her before, I have no idea if I'm on this list, but I will not let her break laws by revealing information like that.

I do understand they want to stop the so-called "suspected thieves", but aren't they losing potential customers as well?

So the answer to this would be? Death to paysites?

It always amuses me that people who hate filesharers and tell us we're doing naughty things are quick to do illegal/questionable things themselves.  It's because damn thieves deserve it, innit?  :lol:

Actually as I said at SFV I think this was a ruse to root out a file sharer

 She likely ONLY left folks donate that donated for the last one or maybe who have donated often like every time
 then when they donated this time and it hit the share wires well she had her list
I still say something was not right about it but then I am paranoid like that.

Thi is just why anything i donate for I hold it close for several days and not share unless it is with close personal friends.
 If it is not available after 4 or 5 days then I share but No way in heck am I tossing it up as soon as i get it
Again I am just noid that way

Wee

That is actually probably very true Wee.

Very logical assumption.  Good thing I didn't attempt to donate this time (though a new paypal account would take care of the banning thing, not that people don't know I'm a filesharer :P)

But I thought her beef was with people altering her meshes and claiming them as their own?

Probably just a cover for rooting out the filesharers.

I've just gone on a downloading spree here(I love you guys) and I'm rather diapointed in the quality of her hair.  =/  I mean the colors suck, and some have gaps between the hair and the head.  It's weird.  

And she is sharing peoples paypal info?  A friend of mine likes to subscribe places, I'll have to warn her to never go there.  Someone who would dare to sink to such a low isn't even worth it.

Rose seems to think that she can silence me.

However, I cannot be silenced :P

She did share my personal information, namely my street address, of one of my paypal accounts.  Yes, I have two.  

She cut me off from posting in her guestbook, which only means that she's not able to keep up with me, so instead of talking to me like a grownup, she'll just cut me off thinking that's the end of that.

Well it's not. :D

She is 100% sure that since I didn't use the same email address (umm, does anyone have only one email address here?) in the guestbook, I *can't* be the one who got their information shared.

If this was really about only an email address (not true, by the way, no matter how much she might play the denying game) I wouldn't give a shit.  I know Simfreaks told her it was illegal to be doing that as well :)

Reality says: If she's willing to share private info, then her firends, whomever they are, are willing to share also. BEWARE of ALL paysites. Paysites must be destroyed.

I saw the entries in the guestbook. That was funny. :D

This is... amazing. I'm pretty shocked that Rose is so far up on her high horse she thinks she can do whatever she wants to expose people - even though the ends NEVER justify the means.

Kick her ass BlueSoup, and if there's anything the rest of us can do to help, let us know.

Holy crap! This is unbelievable  :shock:

Yeah...like..wow. Not that I know much about her, but Rose always kinda struck me as one of the semi level-headed ones out there, but wow. I'm actually genuinely finding myself quite disappointed in her, I dunno why exactly, I just thought better of her somehow, possibly cos she makes such nice...stuff...Her guestbook is now, like the pool, closed, with a message claiming Blue is lying, which I...don't think I believe, to be honest.

Yes. I think an ass-kicking is in order...For destroying any faith I may have had...*snif*

I say some dns spoofing is in order to say...some pharmaceutical site? :P

Fantastic, I'll be able to stock up on my Serbian testosterone from THERE instead!! So I can have the facial hair effect she provides here!!! (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/phorum/viewtopic.php?t=57&start=0)

It's like she's asking for it!!

...but that's naawty. *shakes finger*

OMG!!!! :shock:

Sheesh, is there one paysite owner out there who isn't completely barking?
From what I've seen a definate prerequisite for being a paysite owner is having a) a mental disease b) authority issues or c) missing marbles. Or all three at once.

You forgot the sexual perversion that they need to cash to keep up with...Otherwise what would they have to fap to? WHAT?!?!?!!

I'm suspecting some just need to rip off 'customers' to get their kicks  :?

I think China in general has a looser standard of legality than the states. I mean, when Yahoo gave out "private" info and got folks locked up by the Chinese gov't, it's the pple overseas who were outraged and fuming, not the Chinese. On top of that, privacy as a notion in and of itself is a new concept to Chinese culture. There's no word for privacy in Chinese, ya know. It's all been imported from Western interaction.

I don't think Rose totally understood the illegality and utter insanity of what she did, nor predicted the extent of the backlash. Still, doesn't excuse the fact that she did give out volatile info to pple she didn't even know, and for that, I hope she goes down and gets her ass kicked. :evil:

That's a really good point, that never occurred to me. Which, as you said, doesnt actually excuse her actions at all...But a good point to be made.

I don't think that is a good excuse.  There are plenty of chinese businesses large and small.  Rosesims is a business.  You have to know how to universally behave in a responsible way to all your customers.  She didn't do that, and she knew what she was doing was wrong at the time, there is no sugar coating, cotton candy filling to it.

And the other people involved knew it was wrong/illegal too.  That is why they have their secret forum in the first place.  What they didn't count on was having a dissenter in their ranks.

I didn't say it was. Kinda what I just said, wa'n't it? (sucky attempt at piratey speech? I can't do the accents. I'm bad at accents.)

You ARE bad at accents!! :D

It's funny.  I normally never donate unless it's to help keep a site open, but doesn't offer anything as an incentive.  Call me weird.

But for Rose, I donated for one of her hairs.  That was three weeks ago.  I still haven't received it.  I have gotten the run around from her for two weeks.

This kitten is NOT impressed.  So I lodged a complaint with PayPal.

But, is it just me, or are her items just not that good?  They sure as shit not worth the amount she's charging for them, IMO.

I wasn't impressed.  And I damned sure wasn't paying $1 per hair.  I'm not sure if I got anything from there.  I think I got a couple of her freebies, but not much.

What do you think?

(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l222/ewlialovesme/Better%20Sim%20Bureau/snapshot_d1dbd557_9244dc45.jpg)

YOURS FOR $2.50!

Oh, hell.  Bargain, bought!

Need I say that that's GOT to be some of the fugliest hair I've ever seen?  Granted I don't get out much, so what the hell do I know.

Clearly you haven't seen this one  (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/phorum/viewtopic.php?t=57)yet.

Oh wow.  What style.  What elegance.

/sarcasm

*gag*

Oh.  My.  God.

That's just... egads.  And ya know - I'm going to be eating in 30 minutes.  Thanks  :x

Seriously, though, that's horrendous.  Jesus.  See, can get why people are pissed about stuff like that.  EEEWWWW.

Sorry to put you off food for life, avic. But if it's any consolation to you, the food you won't be eating would probably go towards feeding LyricLee's starving babies. Remember what your mother always told you about finishing your dinner? Don't forget the starving children in Africa!

PMBD is really good at alleviating humanitarian crises like that. I believe Pescado has another theory on how whining paysite owners could help resolve the current energy crisis, or something.

Well, I managed to choke down my shrimp pasta, but ONLY because I didn't find that skinned rat that is supposed to be a hair mesh in the packaging.  Gak!  Wait, no - if I did I could sue and be rich, because that would definitely be both NASTY and traumatizing.  Hmmm....

Wow, what the shit is going on with that hair? not nice.

Hahaha, man, I have GOT to remember to take pictures of problems with hair files. Shit like this isn't uncommon at all.

I'm afraid of using her hair now. :lol:

See, shit like this just makes me wonder if I've just had good luck with pay sites or what.  I've seriously never had a problem with not getting what I pay for and or getting crap like this.  I mean, I'll grouse a bit about SimsConnection hair, but I've never seen ANYTHING like this.

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strike while the iron is hot...or dont.

Interesting read none the less.

Ooh, Livejournaly. The censorship!

She's cold busted.

nice screenshot proof there

Wow, I was giving her the benefit of the doubt that she was just sharing the emails, but people's addresses?  Way over the line.

On S2C, eh? You can't search out her posts there. I guess there is a secret forum after all.

I'm REALLY tempted to email her with these screens and ask her what the fuck SHE thinks sharing people's personal info is.

I think she's really paranoid, greedy and insane.

She has no right to do what she's doing. If I had her address I'd send her a package full of evil, smelly things.

Let's not forget that Rose here is a pawn. There are many other site members involved in this private forum. Rose was dumb enough to get played and be shitted on by both sides of the fence, so to speak.

I for one would love it if the person who posted those screenshots posted more because, yes, there are others with their hands in the cookie jar too.

i thought of reposting the screenshots here: so kids beware if you're reading this.  a paranoid rose is in a witch hunt.
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/piratezy/rose.jpg)
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/piratezy/rose2.jpg)
forgive me for the second photo.

you tell me about it.  i'm worried for the sheeps now, gah, too many what ifs.

has anyone submitted this newest info to paypal with the screenshot proof?

These people think they can just share information and nobody is gonna notice?

I am starting to believe that pescado did the right thing even if it is a harsh thing to do, normaly i would not have condoned it.
when i heard what was happening .. especialy since i have paid for items before through some websites, i took back what was mine plus some for interest!

of course it would be alot better if it was like a screenshot of the email or looked more email-ish (especially since most companies do that "canned" response thing and that doesnt look "canned")

 :lol: @ "contact EA"

It really sucks for those who got their personal information shared like that.

And to think that shortly (like, two days) before I found this forum, I was considering dona- er, paying Rose because she had a couple of pay hairs I really, really liked. You all have no idea how glad I am I didn't. I don't mind donating to support a site I like, but this is low. And she wants to contact EA? Right. Good luck with that.

From Rose's site:


See she's changed THAT policy...

Say...

you don't think...


that random spam forum on S2C.......

that seems to have vanished utterly now....

I mean, if someone could somehow spy new forums being created, what better way to hide than "oh, that was just a spam forum, it's closed now"?

"we have cookies" as in cookies that capture your credit card info??

I take it that virus problem was cleared up as well. :roll:

An interesting theory there indeed....Not the cookies bit though...>.>

Well thanks to Rose, I wound up here. I was set to ride this war out, ignore this site and continue buying sims content from time to time. But I'm so angry at their sharing personal information, with S2C's help, I'll never give any of them another dime!

Thanks to their hysteria, they've managed to drive me to the dark side!  :twisted:

Now off to download for free what I would still be paying for if they weren't so out of control.

No, you *were* on the dark side. Now you are free at last. along with the booty

its disturbing to know that people (her peers) encouraged her to divulge those informations knowing full well it is a violation of the privacy of her donators.  i am guessing rose has no idea of the net stalking but she should have been discouraged by the ones she was talking to.  she is not even 100% sure if that person she suspects is really guilty.  :roll:  this one is a blatant manifestation of her greed.

I was a little bored, so decided to google Sims 2 sites.

This made me LMFAO when I got to RoseSims.

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k22/t2suggas/RoseGoogleAds.jpg)

Highlighted emphasis by me.

ahahahaha   :lol:

I WAS SCAMMED 34 TIMES!!!!1

NO SHIPPING ADDRESS REQUESTED NOW!

Hahaha, nice screenshot.

I lol'd.  That's too perfect.

She doesn't seem to be doing that "wait 15 days for donation item blargh" policy either, as I have the current hair in my downloads folder. It's quite nice, to be honest, if a little on the poofy side.

Nah, she's still doing that, to 'protect the donator's advantage', I just checked...

Sims File Vault.

Search button is your friend, that question has been answered a lot round here...

I though you didn't have to give a billing address any more I just clicked on the donate button and the page it took me to requires a billing address

*raises eyebrow*

I just checked, and I didn't have that come up...Maybe it depends on your country?

Just tried it again and it didn't say that I required a billing address. Don't know what happened last time to make it say that

Mebbe you had something in cache, or something?