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Has anyone else noticed how many people from the S2C forums are joining the dark side? Nouk, happycowlover, discordkitty, me( I'm hyperkitty21 over there) etc.
I just think that it is quite amusing how many people that have joined the dark side. :twisted:

And it feels oh so good! :twisted: Mwahaha! LOL 8)

I agree! Brwahahaha! :twisted:

I Have Just Recently Joined The DarkSide Lol I Saw Blue Soup Ranting(The Best I've Ever Seen LMAO) On S2C And Poof Im Evil  :oops: I Like It Oh I Like It ...

Thanks To You Guys For Turning Me Evil <3 I Blame All Of You
Lmao

Lots Of Love,
Red

Just because posters (I'm thinking specifically discordkitty and nouk) sign up here, doesn't mean they actually participate in filesharing or believe in it.  They could come for the free speech and the chance to say pretty much whatever they want here. :)

Why thank you! :D F*** all of those goody too-shoes at S2C. :twisted:
Agreed!

File sharing? Well I get stuff from buddies sometimes so I'm not against it. I don't know anyone who doesn't do it. If you've bought something, you can share it with someone in my opinion.
However I would not put up another creators stuff on a website, simply because I'm a creator myself and I wouldn't like that either.
I couldn't care less for a paysite losing money over this, simply because it's not even allowed to sell this in the first place.

We're not the dark side. Paysites are.

...Although I wouldn't mind having an awesome red double-sided lightsaber.

But We Are The Dark Side My Dear =] We Just Have Night Lights <3


And as for the lightsaber...you may not have one....but your sims can have one...all you have to do is "donate" to my site  :wink: get it for the low low price of 29.99 :wink: all money goes to feed my starvin Chilluns!  :oops:

Oh bless you and your chilluns, of course I'll donate my heard-earned Round Table money to you.

All Who Donate Get A Free Night Light :wink:

We at wejustwantyoutodonatetofeedourchillunsandwesendyoucrappyfiles.com do not garentee that your night light will work....if it doesnt....tough shit ur fault

'd say people are coming cause of filesharing and FREEDOM of SPEECH. One issue I see alot people having thoughts and posts censored or deleted elsewhere. That doesnt even allow for good debate, have to tiptoe here or cant say this, maybreak some rule and get banned,

Arr. I've come to the dark side too, i guess. I'm Zixx, if anyone really cares all that much.

And why shouldn't we be here?? I mean come on!! They've got cookies!!!  :lol:

I stopped visiting S2C aaages ago when I realised it was pretty much pure shite...not "going to the dark side" as much as "coming to your senses".

This place > S2C :D

I wouldn't say I've joined the dark side... I still wear a big white hat and rose-coloured glasses and fight for puppies and christmas...  but some recent discussions have (at least partially) changed a lot of my previously-held opinions.  And though some of ya'll may act like gaping assholes a lot of the time, there are some interesting discussions that happen here among the stupid ones, which is mainly why I'm here.

quoting
hP  there are some interesting discussions that happen here among the stupid ones, which is mainly why I'm here.


NO we are not all stupid over here :roll: Okay niaeve because we bought into the pay site scheme some of us :twisted: but we saw the light and went to dark side :evil: ARR!

I didn't say you were all stupid.  Just that some of the discussions are stupid sometimes.  It's an internet forum - one devoted to arguing about content for pixel dollies, which is a remarkable base level of stupid.  It's a stupid game, and we're stupid for playing it, and now stupid me is gonna finish editing this post.  :D

Pixel dollies are going to be pushed aside for spore. Galactic rule possibilities more exciting than playing Pleasantville in Winter, snowing full of glitches. Designing creatures I dont' have to buy wardrobe, furnishings, sounds like a nice change. Try to imagine the forums for Spore, people sniping when they found out that A exterminated B's race from his game or something. Or made C race who was peaceful, evil overlords. Of course, you got to evolve first, thats going to be a hoot.

I agree that a lot of conversations here are remarkably stupid. :P  However, you have the complete freedom to say it. :D

Free sims stuff AND the freedom to be stupid.  Now who can ask for more?

Uh....spore may be free form pixel dollies, but still pixel dollies no less.

lol how about Pixel creatures instead of Pixel Dollies. You get the picture:)

I used to mod Creatures and Creatures 2, and I, for one, am offended by your lumping the "creature" name along with sims and spores.

I think the term "pixel life forms" is much more appropriate.

Oh now HystericalParoxysm - that has to be a new ultimate low for stupid conversations - the difference between life forms and dollies and creatures?!?  :lol:

I don't think that this site or its users are the dark side - I believe that they are the ones who have seen the light.

:oops: sorry HP! how about live pixel? (making sure there no ships with planks around, making a dash for cover)

Cala, with all the seriousness going on need to laugh a little. :lol:

*sniffle*  I was just trying to fit in.

Well, now you do -  8) you're one of the 'cool kids' now - despite your poor medical condition from the 1800s.

Hmmm trying to decide whos condition is worst, a Vampire or hair out of every body ortiface 8)  :shock: .

No - the medical condition is hysteria from the 1800's - treated with massage and then produced a hysterical paroxysm.

poor hp! but at least she doest get hysterial and throw a tirade if we all crosss gender Gauis out here and make Miss Crumplebottom's ghost wear it or some fat chick. :twisted:

welcome Kajefan :)

All depends on how much you hate shaving. The Vampire issue is limited to sunlight (which is overrated) and tooth-decay, with the occasional issue of someone trying to stake you.

But HAIR out of every ORIFICE. That could be a forever thing or just a case of buying them thar razors.

*nods knowingly*

Also: Hi zixx :) We used to PM a bit over on S2C back in the day!

Bah!  I'll show you and just cross-gender it and release it and all my previous meshes first, for free, as perfect as they were for males, for females!  And my new one cross-gendered too!  HA!  That oughtta learn ya.

It's so nice to know that I'm not the only one on the darkside.
*gives hugs* :shock:

HP didn't come to the darkside, she IS the darkside.

I've always been on the darkside, I've hated paysites since the sims1. :twisted:

Pescado will be happy for yet another grey fatness avatar.  :)

I want to be manually brought to my hysterical paroxysm! Damn technological progress and its electric vibrators!

Mat

You do it yourself with a few clicks on some buttons - no doctors, no nothing.  Be a nice prescription from the chemist though?

HeeHee! I just miss the hands on, low tech ways of the olden days.  *sigh* Doctors just don't take enough time for their patients anymore!

Mat

Me too, me too.  But maybe not - just considering my doctor   :shock: But if you just click this  button (http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=957) you can have one too.

My OB-GYN is as hot as hell! :D Which admittedly makes for some awkward moments.

Mat

I like to think of it more as "returning to the enlightened side" :D ;)

*refuses to make any silly puns based on a shoddy Star Wars[ analogy, but it is tempting, oh, yes, it is.*

(Dang, Calalily beat me to it).

Wow I Leave And Come Back And...

I Have No Idea Wth Anybody Is Talking About <3


But That's Cool  8) Cus Even If I Did Have Just An Inkling On What You Were Talking About...I Wouldn't Get It  :(

I too have joined the darkside. I am also Brook_Lynn_marie their and some other places.

Shhh. They Dont Like It When We Call It The Dark Side =] We Must Remember We Have NightLights...And Also I Had A Question To Ask Concerning This Dark Side Business...Well Close...Um Wouldn't EA Be The Dark Side Since They Aren't Doing Anything To Stop The Paysites? -.-

Welcome. Isn't it a bit hard to type in all upper caps?

I think it's a case of a moron with caps lock on and the board software turning the post into a capital letter on every word instead of all caps

Lol Nah Its A Habit...Is It Bothering You ? Sorry -.- Dang Habits


Me A Moron? Never Like I Said Its Just Habit Sorry If It's Bothering Anyone =] If It Is Im Sorry Just Dont Read My Posts...Not Typing In All Caps Just Capitalizing The FirsT Letter Of Every Word.

It's just a little odd...

Where did you pick it up? It's a little odd to read. I don't think I've ever seen someone do that unless it's in a title or something similar.

it is a bit weird
but then i'm the sort who can't be arsed to press the shift to do any capital letters at all

Wow. Gosh. That is actually REALLY annoying. The Capitalizing Every First Letter is bad enough (not everything is a pronoun, dear), but the lack of punctuation too? Bloody give your shift key a break!! What the hell kind of a habit is that to get into anyway? How in any way is repeatedly hitting shift habit-forming OR conducive to efficient typing?

It's just....really fucking irritating.

Wow....Never Thought I'd Get So Many People On Me Because Of THe Way I Type....Im A Bit Odd....=] Dont Worry Other People Have Problems With It Too I Don't BIte I Promise Im Just A Bit Odd =] But Pray Do Keep Your Fingers Away I Dont Bite....But I Might Nibble A Bit


I'll Just Stop Posting Lol Seeing How Im Gettin On Everyones Nerves =]

Lots Of Love,
Red


Lol Thanks For Not Bashing Me =]

Please don't double-post, RedLove.

As for bashing you...have you even read the threads here? ;)

Sorry Blue Just Defending Myself I Don't Know Why EveryOne's Getting So Riled Up. We All Have Annoying Habits

Yes, but unless you actually have a hidden camera in my house, you can't see me picking my nose.

When I read, I kind of say everything outloud in my head. And when I read stuff like your posts I put this kind of ponderous Capitilization Thing For Each Word Like It's Of Great Import and it irritates the fuck out of me.

I dunno about anyone else, though.

Blue is there a way to put a delete botton on posts for users. Sometimes the forum sticks, you dont think it goes through, and I think last night axcidently double posted. Couldn't delete it., may of happened to Red.

Yeah, not that I'd have been able to express it as such, but that's exactly my problem with it too. Also, I see a capital letter that's not attatched to a pronoun, and my brain says 'There's the start of another sentence, end what you were reading just then, QUICK!!'....so it just completely jars my brain. And the no commas, no apostrophies, on top of it, it makes me want to.....GAH. There's destroying in there somewhere.

edit: SoupParrot, that's odd, I've got a delete post button for my posts, don't you?

edit 2: And now I don't. Liek, wut? o.O

I don't think you can, Soup Parrot.  Just PM me with the post link and I can delete it.  Even my tools are pretty limited.  phpbb is Teh Suck.

Red
it might just be easier to go with the consensus and just stop doing it...
rather than threaten to not post and then continue to do so

i've just given it a try and it is really hard to do, takes some concentration :shock:


edit: you can delete your own posts within the edit function. theres a tick box
under the post

It's retarded. Type like a normal person not a mouth breather.

How important is it really? So important to make a big deal of it all? Maybe you are giving herexactly what she wants by getting so riled up over a few ol' capityals.  Bothers me too, but there's lots more to be bothered by that really matters, like paysites for instance....

What I want to know is, how the fuck do you write papers? (O.o)  Seems to me that if I was grading anything you wrote, I'd just mark a big fat F and tell you to retype it.  Or do you type the whole thing, then go back and change all the caps for lowercase?  I guess what I'm trying to say is... I'm not buying the "habit" thing.  

I don't personally care if you type like that or not.  I can't trouble myself to read anything that illogical.  Apparently, neither can other forum members.  But now I pose the question:  Why the fuck are you posting on a board when you have
1. told others not to read your posts
2. have been told by others that they do not read your posts because they don't make sense.

Isn't the point of posting to be heard? (o.O)

 :o   :shock: Dour!! You cussed?? Where did THAT come from???????? :P Onto the "hot topic" at hand. The typing is annoying, but fuck it. To each his/her own. She wants to type like that then oh well, can't do much bout that.  But just being honest It Is Very Annoying To Read. I don't understand why either, it's just aggravating for some unknown purpose....... Then again I tend to use excess punctuation so am *I* much better? :P :wink:

LOL! Thank you.  This reminds me of BlueSoup's "be less stupid!" over at S2C.  Short and to the point.

It's a very stupid habit.  It takes more effort to hit the shift key constantly than to just type in all lowercase, which I find much less annoying.  
Unless, of course, you have some sort of nervous disorder where every time your thumb moves to hit the space key, your little finger spasms and hits the shift key.  
No?  
Okay, then you're just stupid.

Ditto.

I do believe that the use of "dang" tells you all you need to know.

There is a reason why capitals are used the way they are in English and breaking that rule only makes your posts look strange and barely readable. Since the purpose of language is communitcation, I don't understand why you are purposefully making it harder for your writing to accomplish its purpose.

If you really need to just take up space in the world, perhaps you should get a LiveJournal. This really isn't the place to be posting just to hear yourself talk, and then get defensive when others point out your failure to communicate. Please try to facilitate communication if you really are here for that.

Unless you're a troll, in which case we have a fine selection of insults and sarcastic remarks to throw in your direction until you shove off. :)

I wasn't bashing you, Red. I just asked a question. I think it's bothersome to press the shift all the time.

BlueSoup completely stole that from us over on my original site. :P

Just an observation: you remind me of a group of girls back in jr high. You're in a circle at break and some girl you don't know has the audacity to walk on the sidewalk through your circle. How dare she.....

Sickpuppy, I Admire Your Audacious Rebel Stance So Very Much. Stick It To The Man.

Just an observation, not 'sticking it' to anyone, don't want to either.

We're all a bunch of rabid dogs. Happy now?

Neriana - you make me laugh my arse off everytime I see that - I'm giggling while I type this post.

Torque - perhaps we are all .... sick puppies... boom boom.

I think that the sole purpose for most forum is an ability to complain about whatever takes your fancy - be it paysites, or someone typing in capitals - I also like the observation that nose picking in one's own house doesn't annoy someone over the other side of the world.

Bah. Since everyone has a problem with the way i type =] I'll try to not put a capital at the beginning of every word. Although I thought you guys would be a little nicer but whatever =] all I can do is try

Lot Of Love,
Red
 
P.S I don't type papers like this its just a habit i picked up in some forum,chat or something

And i might seem a little sensitive because( not whining or anything) I do realize i am a little(maybe alot....hmm...anybody under 16?) younger than everyone else in this forum and too have everyone come at me like that is not something I experience everyday

Typing with initial capitals is not something like pimples that you can't help if you're a certain age, you know!   But having dodgy eyesight is something I can't help at my age, and that style of writing really does put a strain on my eyes.

You have read other threads here right? And it's not as if everyone was being horrible to you or anything, a couple of people were pretty short with you, but that's all. The rest were just saying they found it difficult to read and didn't understand why you typed like that. Don't assume because we didn't like the way you typed we were all being mean, if you consider that mean you're going to go through life assuming people are picking on you when they aren't.



You must be having very different teenage years to what mine were like, and seriously, everybody wasn't 'coming at [you] like that', a few people expressed their irritation, with differing levels of intensity.

Well I've appologised so if everyone is still pissed at me then i guess that is your own judgement. Although i don't like not being liked but sometimes you just can't make everyone like you =] But I have appologised but If you didn't see it then I'm Sorry for making everyone all mad and what not

Huh? Since your last post only two of us replied and neither post was pissed off in tone. I don't like or dislike you, I don't know you. I do find your former typing style and your repeated use of 'everybody' when only a few people responded to you annoying, but I'm not going to get angry about them. You really need to develop a thicker skin though.

Sorry Im sensitive i guess and very stressed out seeing how yesterday was the first day back at my highschool. I know im overly sensitive and im sorry?

Thank you for making an effort to type like a reasonable human being. Egrarious abuses of language, like capitals all over the place, cause me physical pain. :P

Mm... here, you may want to read more than post if you tend to be sensitive. Very few are going to give any quarter for that, or age.

Yes, case sensitive.  :lol:

Arrrrrgh! *dies* :lol:

I'm very sensitive, too, but the last place to be sensitive is the internetz. We don't hate you. We weren't bashing you. But this place is not about joy and happiness. We're not happy bunnies, you know.

Happy posting!

I'm under sixteen.

And I can type too.

But don't worry, we love you.

Except Pescado - he hates everyone on principle.

There is no sixteen.  There's only twelve.  And all of you are supposed to be convincingly over 12.  So you best be careful before you get warnings. ;)

*gives suspicious look* I have my suspicions about who you are...  :D

Ah, my mate does this too. I can never understand the point of it, but I never bothered to ask him why. ^^ It can be seen as amusing. I have another friend who exasperates the use of punctuation by doing this: "hi,i'm,yeah.you know." This is, of course, very annoying for a grammar Nazi who is the daughter of an English teacher and who gets picky over the misuse of pronoun spellings and other such annoyances (e.g. it's/its, their/there/they're, etc).



What are you saying--this the dark side? We're the light side. S2C is the dark side. I have always thought so. This is why I do not have an S2C account. This is also why I never shall have an S2C account. No matter how much certain people (*coughWILLcough*) would like me to. It's yucky.

It's only available if you were the last person to post. The moment somebody else posts, you can no longer delete your post. *has worked this out*

Um, yeah. Sorry for double posting. ^^ Just wanted to clarify though.

Ha ha! I used to LOVE S2C back in the days when it was the only forum I was posting on. Then I found another one with a smaller circle of people which was just to my taste. :D

I'm only still using S2C because of the story I've posted there and which I have an intention to continue...had it not been for that I would have left that forum for good.  :P

As for the "dark side" and "light/enlightened side", I don't believe in such things. It just censorship versus freedom of speech.

There is no freedom of speech on private websites.

There's no right to it.  There are places where it exists, though!

True enough.

I just chuckle at people who scream 'free speech' and wave it around like a banner when they clearly do not understand the intent and purpose of free speech.

Freedom of speech comparing to other sites then. ;) You don't exactly have those types of rules here like: if you say this or that you get banned...

I hate all this "you will get banned" stuff!
Here you can come along with words like: hey mothafuckas, whatsup u hoes and no one cares. On S2C there's probably simsample who starts shouting at you first with a pm saying "you got temporarily banned"...how about a slogan "u got temporarily fucked"? I like that much better than the damn ban thing!
you need to shut your mouth on every issue. at least it was until someone *looks around* started ranting about pay sites ;) we're on a step of revolution guys n gals! Break the barriers  :roll:

You're 12, aren't you?

12's being kind...

It has always been my opinion the  more someone cusses in chat/forum posting, the younger they are.  I suspect that it's 8  :roll:

You give "freedom of speech" a bad "name". :P

I agree with you, it must be some kind of high they get off it "hey look at me I can swear 50 times in a row and still get the spelling wrong!"

Perhaps if you didn't have the unfortunate affliction of diarrhea of the mouth, you wouldn't have such a problem with getting banned.

To stave off the inevitable whine that you are being picked on, remember: free speech also means the freedom of others to tell you that you're being a moron.

*dies laffin*  holy goodness, isn't that the truth! :lol:

There is no 8. Only 6.

I think....>.>

get back in your hole!

If I could, I'd ban you for failing to convincingly pretend to be 12, as, as Jesse rightly said, you are not acting older than 6.

Unfortunately, I cannot, so instead I will tell how completely ridiculous it is for ANYONE to talk like that and expect to not get banned, or "fucked" as you so nicely put it as. I'm no saint; I have my fair share of swearing. But I usually only do it in certain circumstances in which society says it is allowed. I do not call someone a "mothafucka" or whatever, which is HIGHLY insulting, by the way, and expect they do not KILL ME for it.

You need to understand that there are boundaries, even in society. Even in this community. You are very close to overstepping them.

Tchân, give the kid a break, s/he is obviously very young.

Alia, the educational pirate steps in the ring:

ScreamMyName, in case you're still here, I'll tell you this nicely.
It is apparent that you are a young person, and therefore do no always know how to behave in certain situations. Now, I'm not trying to talk down to you, but you are obviously in the wrong place. This is a forum for adults, and   we talk here about subjects you'd probably find boring.  I'd suggest you go back to more child/teen friendly forums, and find there friends who are closer to your own age and topics that interest you.

And when posting in any forum, please, do not use terms like 'mothafucka' or 'ho' as many people find them offensive.

Thank you.

Given that, the people who I take notice of, and who give valid points, never (or very infrequently) use offensive language, there is no need for it.

I was. I was explaining society to a 6 year-old.  :roll: I have been taught this myself, and it's always best coming from someone with experience. Therefore I thought to explain it the way I learnt it; society says this is acceptable in certain situations--this is not it. I wasn't trying to be bitchy and reading my comment again, well, I don't know if you misunderstood it. Sometimes you need to be cruel to be kind.

I don't want this kid to get banned any more than you do and I want to help them as much as I can, as much as you do, Alia. (S)he needs to learn that offensive language will not be tolerated. Calling people names, no matter whether you mean it rudely or not, will never be an accepted part of society with people you don't know extremely well. For example, I can call my best friend a slut but she knows I don't mean it and therefore it's not exactly "all right" but she accepts it as part of every day life. However, I would not come on here and call you a slut, because you would not like it; you'd take it the wrong way and assume I was insulting you. There are times you can say such words and people to whom you can say them to. You could call your husband "honey" but I wouldn't advise you to call your teacher that. It's things you learn in life.

Therefore I'm not at all surprised that the child who thinks it okay to call people (s)he doesn't know--or even people (s)he may know; as it has been said before, on private forums you abide by their rules--"mothafuckas" and "hoes" gets banned for the choice of language (s)he picked. (S)he picked the wrong words for that context.

T2, I agree with what you were saying there. You find it much more infrequent with people like that.

I was directed here from S2C. I did use the booty a little, but I deleted a lot of what I downloaded. I got a little excited. But I am honestly enjoying reading the forum far more than the booty.
It's nice to find a "no holds barred" forum where people are real. It's a little annoying to find that nearly every forum is filled with very young immature people. Grr!

Not quite sure why you're half apologizing for d/l the booty when that's what it's there for not to mention the fact you're not doing a particularly convincing job appearing unlike the "very young immature people" you're speaking of :roll:

I was just saying that most of the great creations are free anyways, a good majority of the paysite 'donations' are not very nice.  :roll:
I'm not the best writer, but don't believe I act like a child either. I only meant that a good majority of the people on the forums are under 18.

It's OK, I guess I just read your comment in a different tone than you meant it. Everything is cool. Hope you didn't take offence! :)

lol it's alright, I didn't really. :P

Chinchilla, you mean like me then?  :shock: I'm not that immature...not on here anyway! :wink: I'm nearly 18. ^^^

I hope I didn't offend you. I only meant that often younger members are more easily swayed by well know people in the community. By no means do I mean that all people under 18 are immature. They aren't.

naw she's not offended she's got a thick skin :P

:wink: Will's right.  :lol: I'm not offended. :P

*snaps fingers* Gods, so that's where I was going wrong all those years. Thanks for that.  :P

You know, I jumped from being only 30 to being 36 a couple of weeks ago. Sometimes the law of sixes just sucks. :(

They do Beth, sixes mean..How about if you go back to 30.
 :D

I was trying to comfort a friend of mine who just turned 30, the other day...I was like 'Don't worry, there is no 30, only........oh.'. I did, however, manage to charm her wife, who ended up being 36 instead of 41. So not all was lost.:D

Well you got to cheer up one of them, at least! It's always good to have some happy people.  :wink:
I think I want to stay 18, when I turn 18, for quite a few years. Say, 12? :lol:  8)

Beth: Aaaaah. Well. Yes, maybe that was it. :wink: Unless your husband IS your teacher. :P

That'd be ex-husband. Yup, he taught me a lot. ;)

My trouble is, I just turned 36, so under the law of 6's I am.... 36. After being 30 for so long, it was a rude shock.

I still look 28 though. No wait, there is no 28... Umm... 24?

Excellent. I feel better. :D

According Pescado's Calendar, I'm 36. Sadly, I will turn 42 in a few months, both in Pescado's and Gregorian's Calendar  :?.

Like a cold shower, urrrgh!

lol, would that be the reason behind the "ex"? ^^^^^

ha! i knew you would join us eventually! *grins evilly*

HeeHee! I remember the first time I looked at my profile on MATY and I saw "24" for my age and I was like WTF?? I thought the damn thing was broken! I'm proud to say though that it didn't take me too long to put my MATY age together with the law of sixes I had heard talked about on the board! LOL!

Mat

Well I was totally pro-paysites before that thread started up in s2c.. and I even defended them  :oops: .. I think there needs to more awareness about the fact that sharing pay content isn't illegal, because probably 90% of simmers who download content think it is illegal to share content.. so then I read up on it more, and I'm totally pro-free sites and anti-paysites :) (im melanie at s2c).

Yay! Welcome Melanie!

Yeah!  When I buy something, it's mine then.  I should be able to share it with whomever I choose. Right?

I am against total paysites.  They suck.  But, it's their right to ask for payment or subscriptions, ain't it??  Nouk says up there that you aren't allowed to sell it...is that true??  Where do you find this information?

Also, just my thought.  Free sites with a special "donation pack" don't seem all that bad though.  All their stuff is free but for helping them out, they make a little something special just for you.  Why is that bad??  Is it because it's illegal to sell CC for Sims2?  

I'm asking because I really want to know the legalities of this.  I don't like to argue with anyone unless I KNOW I'm right and I have proof.   :twisted:

Reading the End-User License Agreement (EULA) that pops up when you open Bodyshop for the first time.

Copyright law.

Do a search on the forums about these topics, and read the first posts by bethgael, and you'll be much better informed.

i appreciate that, thanks.

Reading the older threads is educational and entertaining. :D
I'll answer your questions, but the real argument material (the whys and hows) are in those threads. Arm yourself with information!


No. EA is the only one who owns the right to sell the .package format. If creators wanted to legally sell their files, they could buy the rights from EA. No one has done this.
The only thing sites have permission to do is pure tip-jar-style donations. It's also legal to sell something they actually own, as in MTS's selling faster access to the server. TSR was legal, until they locked off files. Now they're a store.


Yes. It's legally the same as counterfeiting only a little bit.
Some people do it out of kindness, not knowing it's just as illegal. But most know that they'll get more money if they hold something back- and that's where it becomes a sale.
A moral problem comes in because even the kind people hold back their best sets for "donations", and this harms the community. Not to mention, people are supposed to be donating out of appreciation for what they've already been given (the free sets), not what they might get.
"Only one or two donation packs" has a tendency to bloom over time, because sites want to keep people donating. And it fosters the idea that paying for files is acceptable and normal.

Yea, I agree with everything LesserOr said, people shouldn't profit on what EA made.

very interesting explaination.  makes sense.  shall we continue to plunder and pilige that which should be free??

Nope.

Awww. It was worth a try. :lol: