PMBD

Now we were having this conversation and obviously you were losing pretty bad because you banned me from the site. I know it is tough having a battle of intelligence when your unarmed but banning was  bullshit. If you think you have what it takes to finish the conversation where I can not be banned I am ready when ever you are. Feel free to tell me all about your virtues and I will feel free to tell you why I think you are full of more shit than my septic tank. I suppose we can all take the fact you wont respond as proof that I am right and you are the 2 faced thieving little snake that you call everybody else.

I decided to edit this since so many are reading it and I am sure some must be crooneys for LyricLee.
So she stated it was a planned effort by site owners and that is the only reason she downloaded anything. She even showed the email to prove her point. But that was one day, one time. It was meant to download as much as possible as quick as possible. But her downloading spanned over several days and included looking at pics before she downloaded the objects. So either she is the biggest hypocrite in the sims community or she is just to afraid to defend herself where she doesnt have the power to ban and delete threads.

Lyric is a cowardice beotch (sorry, dunno how u are on foul language). He/she/it/whatever banned me for saying "Makes Lyriclee and Pooja sim then kills them" Pretty f-ing stupid huh? This was on a forum some friends of mine made, I didn't say it on Modthesims2 or Sims2Community!! I'm the only one who got banned when everyone else was only temporarily muted. Really really REALLY f-ed up.

Sorry..had to rant.

I was banned there for making a site suggestion about the staff members and the deletion of threads. I was only on there for a total of 15 minutes before I was banned. ..It seems after a few people began pointing out she her conduct on the forum she tried to play victim, and when the hole she dug was too deep to get out of she deleted the thread.  :roll:

This is her MO. She cant win so she bans people. The ONLY reason ANYBODY kisses her ass is because she has the power to ban people. NOBODY that I have talked to about her likes her and even those that are nice to her face call her a bitch behind her back. I know she does not have even close to the balls it would take to answer this thread. She is big with Admin or Mod by her name but take it away and she aint shit!

of course. becuz she knows we're right and shes full of crap. and then the funny thing is she doesnt even ban ISP numbers! she banned me and i turned around and made another name! shes a freaking idiot!

I just cant believe they dont see the hypocrisy in what they are accusing APMBD and what they are doing.  No, no its donations..for bandwidth..pfft! bullshit.  I worked so haaaarrrrdddd.. on it..youre robbing me..hell youre robbing eagames.

I'm sure Lyric will come by and just snoop about what we're posting about her.. But I doubt she has the stones to say anything back, and if she does it'll just be more of her fouled mouth ranting..

I think she is like 25 she has a myspace to

Lol hun I think they ment her maturity level is around that of a 12 year old. but in my opinion a 12 year old would be TOO mature for her  :roll:

With her lil tantrums and all I peg her around a very bratty 7 year old.

lol


exactly

Oh deffinatly.. the Do as I say, not as I do..thing.. She got that down.

And when faced with actual legal knowledge (from psy10 at that deleted thread), LyricLee has been known to dismiss ALL of that as "Latin" and "legal mumbo-jumbo." And proclaim that she would, in fact, without all this "legal mumbo-jumbo," win her case in court.

What's her ammo? Her smoking wit? Or her overflowing abundance of brain cells?

I personally would love to be there for her argument.
Yes your Honor I did download it all but it was planned to try and destroy his site. Yes your Honor all the files were in my game when they confiscated my computer but it was for the better good. I really did not do anything wrong! I sweat I didnt Those son of bitches stole my files! _%_$#&%_#&_ them. On and On LMAO what an idiot she is.

LMAO!!! That would be pricless, especially sense she would throw tantrum in court possibly.

What I do not get is why Delphy keeps her around? I mean those in that thread are not the only ones that see her for what she is. She is actually the topic of several chats and discussions on several other groups and forums. Not all are open and public.
And as far as like or dislike there may be many on both sides but even those who actually like her have little if any respect for her in the way she has acted while being a mod there. that last post she deleted though was the proverbial straw. Many are now wondering what she is still doing there. I guess many are starting to see her for her real self.

It is hard to actually respect a forum if you can not actually respect those modding that forum. I have heard many say they no longer care to support the site after the way she carried her self there and Delphy lets it happen again and again.
I honestly feel sorry for him. He is being tore down by a nitwit and does not even know it.


I hate to see MTS crash and burn behind one power hungry egotistical hypocrite.

By the way why is it that ALL the creators whose items are here were not aware of this so called plan to drain the bandwidth?
According to certain reliable sources  there were several whose things are here that never heard of this supposed plan..
You do not think she was making it up do you?  :D
No a Moderator would never do that. Then again Moderator would never bring their personal arguments onto a open forum they modded either.
If she was an adult and moderator material she would have simply not replied. Instead of feeding in to it.
My 10 year old acts better then her.

Wee
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When bitches get their way for no explainable reason the only thing I can figure is she must give really good head...

THANK YOU! Finally someone said it! LMAO It has been the only explantion I could come up with!

The sad thing is.. That is TRUE!. You can get anywhere in his community by doing that.. Even act like a complete cunt and get away with it. I don't think Delphy really gives a damn what she does. IF he did her ass would be gone.

We should make a petition to remove LyricLee, create a different screen name and then IM every person on MTS2 and S2C asking if they would like to sign it (give us their SN) and then turn it into Delphy. Maybe then he would get rid of her or remove her modding privleges.

Some how I doubt that would work, I'm sure he's noticed her behaviour. I also seen a new Lyric, Hysterical Paroxy, she was harassing a user for a comment made about perdominatly white skins in downloads. She repeatedly harassed this user, who posted a thread about it. He even commented on it, blaming the user for it. So he has two abusive staff members. (That thread was later hard deleted).. If he didn't do anything about this complaint about staff from Sitara and other members, I don't think he gives a damn how his staff act.

Delphy doesn't actually play the game, so his involvement in the community itself is somewhat limited to mostly existing.

My problem isnt so much her sucky attitude because I could go all day with people like that and actually enjoy it. My problem is she bans the person as if to say I WIN and doesnt even realize that was the very second SHE LOST. She couldnt hack it so she gives up and bans the person so they cant say no more. Also the reason why she has not bothered to respond to this post. Because she cant win. She has no brain  and she has no ban button so she is screwed before ever typing her first word. If she truly thought she was not the two faced pig we have been calling her than she would respond without her safety nets just to argue her point and try to prove us wrong. Bottom line is if you are to chicken shit to defend yourself then get out of the game. When will she learn you are supposed to fight until the death because the only real loser there is, happens to be the one that walks away from the fight.

Not defending her in any possible way so please dont anybody think that but I personally disagree with that statement. In my opinion it takes a very intelligent person to walk away from a fight, especially when it's one you know you can't win. But that's just me. People here may not agree with me on it but oh well, I believe what I want to and you can believe what you want to.

I saw the thread, this is not what happened.

That user "complaining" was 100% completely in the wrong. I don't give two shits for Lyric OR HystericalParowhatever but this user was really fucking psychotic, convinced everyone was a racist and had no idea what she was talking about.

She claimed that a set of a handful of lighter toned skins were made to eliminate the black race to the game when infact these skins were just extra custom skins and replaced nothing within the game. This chick had more than a few screws loose. Nevermind that she was a hypocrite and complimented all dark skins - it goes both ways.

So I staned corrected. I'm not a member of MTS2 anymore, I'm out on the loop of who the crazys are.. I'm sorta banned from both sites for no reason  :P So I don't usually go on there to read or download anything since I find teh quality slipping.

Edit: Now I can't find the complaint thread.. Most have gotten deleted

I totally agree and IF she was a real mod or Admin she would have done Just that.
This was the proof there that the job is too big for her to handle

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I don't think SnugglySim was referring to "Walking away from a fight" as in...someone who sees something that they have deep feelings on, and would love to comment on, but know doing so would only start a big meaningless fight, so they stay silent...

I think rather he/she was refering to the LyricLee version...

Example:  Get into fight...Dig yourself into a huge hole, dig yourself in deeper and deeper...use the most offensive language possible...And when you start to look really, really, really unredeemably bad...delete the thread and destroy the evidence so people are forced to stop arguing against you.

Yeah like I said I don't give a shit for either of those two, but that woman was plain batshit crazy!

Wouldn't surprise me that it got deleted, though.

Even though the lady was a tad insane, I doubt that HP was exactly a angel in the situation (Based on what I seen of her back in chat there and a few threads), but we can't know for sure.

1: I'm female and call me Snuggles (yes like the psycho snuggle fabric softener bear)
2: I didn't understand anything that you said in reference to my comment LMAO  :lol:
3: What I ment as in walking way from a fight was kinda the thing with keeping quiet about whatever. Now I do have a problem with starting a fight and digging yourself in a big hole and then leaving like Lyric is doing, that is cowardice.  I'm a firm believer in the "dont dish it out if you cant face the consequenses" statement.

Hope that cleared it up.

If someone is accusing you of something that you are just absolutely positively against and that you did not do, I promise you walking away is NOT the correct action no matter who you are. This is true in both internet world and real life. I can tell you from personal experience that under NO circumstances do you walk away. If YOU do not defend yourself NO ONE is gonna. This is a prime example. She walked away and deleted the thread. The majority feel that was an admission of guilt on her behalf. Now all those crooneys over there will be nice and sweet but I can almost bet that they are thinking she is guilty. Because she walked away. Yup, she is admin over there. All that means is she could have kept going and nobody would have stopped her. You cant win a fight when your wrong. It does not take a smart person to walk away from a fight. It takes a guilty one. Whoever came up with the phrase "The bigger man is the one that walked away" was the one that walked away and also the one that was wrong. I was not referring to people who believe in different things. It was not a debate of what was right and what is wrong because there truly can be no argument on those because everyone will have a difference of opinion. It was a debate on her being 2 faced and treating people like shit just because she thinks she can. It was debate on how she calls others thieves while at the same time downloading the booty. We say these are the things she does and she says she doesnt. I enjoy the old saying "The proof is in the pudding"

Yes, you are entitled to your opinion and all should respect that. Mine is not based on opinion. It is based on experience.

I walked away from the LyricLee fight first, I don't think that makes me guilty.  Rather, I think it makes me smart for not wanting to deal with her shite anymore. :P

I agree, BlueSoup.  She just went on and continued to make herself look bad.  The very last time I was in MTS2 chat she harassed me and kept tyong to provoke me (When I was guilty of saying "hi" and then thereafter sitting idle in the chat) I simply didn't respond to the abuse and in the end she just looked bad...I didn't.

That's basically what I meant...That I didn't think you were refering to avoiding a fight before it starts...however that you were refering to getting involved in a fight, digging yourself in a huge fight, then walking away and trying to cover your tracks LyricLee style

Hey, I just found the link to the site on insim. Dropped by to casually worship you all and share the love.  :roll:

So yeah, I don't have a damn clue what happened on MTS or what precipitated all this because I try to avoid reading posts of any kind that don't directly pertain to downloads or techy-stuff because people tend to be annoying and stupid for no reason. So I guess I'm lucky but I feel left out now. :(

To sum it up Aqua: LyricLee from S2C and MTS2 is a hypocritical lyin bitch. :) She threw a fit about this site and yet shes here downloading all the content.

Ah, for shame.

Eh, she strikes me as being your standard internet drama whore. If so, I would wager she gave a Speech of Ultimate e-Righteousness about how stealing is bad she's-cool-you're-not etc., proceeds to download half the files here, and is probably denying everything falling just short of your existence by now.  I've known many.

Since this place is cool and I love free stuff, I think I'm here to stay. So I extend a warm "y hulo thar" to the rest of you.  :wink:

Yeah, that's pretty much the exact story. She made up some nonsense story about how all the paysite creators banded together for a downloadathon to try to cripple my unmetered bandwidth, then proceeded to spend the next 3-4 days cherrypicking the loot one file at a time as her "attempt". Nevermind that I have enough servers to simply flatten her computer in snow. :P

I've talked to other creators that say that the mass-download to overload the bandwidth did exist...However, it was only one time.  So that only accounts for one day of downloading.  And in a mass-download, you don't pick through files and look at pictures first.  I think she was counting on most people not knowing how to read the logs.

Your argument was based on opinion though. You were not denying that you shared files. You were arguing on whether it was right or wrong. That is an opinion argument and one neither side can win. Those arguments you walk away from because they are pointless really. Her argument is that she was not 2 faced and did not download those files for her own benefit and that she doesnt treat people like shit because she thinks she is superior. That is an action argument and one you can win if your right. Which she wasnt because she was lying through her teeth.

Did that make sense?

Makes perfect sense to me.

Actually, I didn't say I shared paysite files at all - I was referring only to Maxis pre-order incentives, which everyone knew I shared because I posted links to get them at MATY.

I think you're giving too much credit. She probably had no idea there WERE logs.

And I am sure she got those as well. LMAO To bad someone cant prove she downloaded them. That would be fun!

Sigh.

I am not LyricLee. DNS me. Check my join date both here and at MTS.

It's a bit of an unfortunate name choice, but I know there's a Lyric at both MATY and TLS.

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That's me.

It isn't unfortunate at all, actually, since I joined MTS2 before LyricLee did, and now because of some bitch's idiocy, I have to feel defensive about my name choice. It's a name choice I've been using online since 1985.

adsl-70-232-51-211.dsl.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net <---- me

c-69-242-46-150.hsd1.nj.comcast.net <---- her

Well it's unfortunate in that her name shortens to yours and makes everyone suspicious of you. ;)  No worries from me.

Thanks, Blue. :)

I came back to make certain you realized the "bitch" I meant was LyricLee and not you!

I don't post often anywhere anymore, I keep to myself, keep my game updated, don't bother anyone ... but I had to straighten out the misunderstanding re my name.

As you were, everyone. I return to lurk mode.

LMAO, I see the name before I started reading. I knew it couldnt be her. She has yet to come up with the cahoonas to post. You dont have to lurk. No one will bother you just because of your name. Liarlee has a way of posting and standing out that I doubt she could change her name and hide because all would know it was her.

Good lord, what a bitchy snot Lyriclee is.  :roll:

"I BAN YOU I WIN OMG"

Okay.. right, just keep burying your head in the sand dear.

I think you all should be making more of an effort to pirate-ize your names.

Blue Soup could be Bluebeard Soup.  

Lyric is a little trickier.

Well Lyric could change her name to "Siren" because Odysessus is a "form" of a pirate (he was on a ship LOL) and he encounterd the Sirens so in a sense it's kinda like a pirate name...Shit I don't know...LMAO

ahh Lyric Lee is a classic example of someone who has let a title go to her head  :roll:  I can't help but shake my head at all  the files she downloaded and no doubt is enjoying in her Game immensely. what's hysterical is her defense that she did it because she was asked to.......to supposedly "help" the pay sites creators..... :roll:  mm'kay sure but wouldn't one "file" from each "paysite" be sufficient? why the literally dozens? heeck I downloaded tons of those files but my claim as to why ? I wanted them for my game . totally selfish here LOL no way  am I going to represent  that I did it  for the CC creators good because "they requested it yeah right Lyric Lee the spree says other wise

I downloaded all of 8DS. Lets see, the reasons why?

Temporary insanity?
My Mom told me to?
The dog made me do it?
I was bored and wanted to see if I could smoke Pescado's bandwidth? HAHA
or
Because I wanted the files and I did NOT want to pay for them.

I will let all of you decide.

If you picked anything but the last one you were wrong :D

LMAO!!!! *makes note that Lackey is crazy but in a good way and that he/she has an addiction to that particular sims site*

I always thought something was up with her... At the very least I thought it was trashy how she would both claim to support MTS2 and spout off about her stuff at exem's site and redirect people there at any given opportunity.

Now I know this goes much farther than garden variety tasteless...

Ah, good to know I can still read e-drama fairly well. It's the same in every "community" with slight variations according to theme. In short, I lol'ed.

And I'd always wondered whether or not people with paysites were violating copyright laws by charging for Sims content, and whether or not they had a legal leg to stand on in various instances. This is a lovely answer to my questions, haha.

I also heard rumours that since she doesn't have a job and sits on her ass all day that Delphy sends her money from donations... Like when her PC died and two days later she had a brand new one.. But can't afford to get her kids Christmas presents..  :roll: (Apperently the money she uses to donate to Delphy is actually his money.. )

That's a hilarious visual.

There aren't any. The entire mess is a legal land mine no one wants to touch, and certainly not one that can be upheld internationally. Like, in, say, Malaysia.

Actually,  :cry: the doctor said I should.

lol, random ban of the week  :lol:

I have been relatively lucky so far...........the only ban of the week I have had was from the BBS :lol:  I tend to be uber helpful pointing the sheep toward Hacks that fix game issues and the BBS doesn't like that :lol:

Some people treat banning people as dirty laundry and don't like to air it. They apparently don't realize that not airing the dirty laundry makes it smell worse.

I was banned at Sims 2 Community, and what went along with that ban was a permenant ban at Insim.. All because I disagreed with Delphy. (which apperently for S2C is good enough reason).

Insim is run by different people though, and not associated with Delphy at all anymore.  Perhaps you could find out if it could be lifted.

I could, but I really don't miss Insim much.. When I was banned I was banned from all the forums he hosted, as well as the ones he owned. Except for Sexy Sims.. Some odd reason I'm not banned there..  :shock:

Well, you must have really pissed him off.  I'd love to hear that story lol.  Delphy doesn't strike me as too bad, he's never done anything to me.

They have absolutely no legal leg to stand on. By all rights, only Maxis/EA should profit from The Sims since the game and everything in it is technically their creation or based off their creation. Offering the option to donate is one thing, saying "Here, you need to pay me $10 and then my host $10 and $1 for each download" is a smack in the face to Sims players who just want to enjoy their games and copyright law in general. It's like charging an outrageous fee for unlicensed, unendorsed fan fiction and not giving the original creator jack squat or worse, claiming you created it instead.

When the first paysites popped up, I remember people trying to get that through the thick heads of the Sims Community but all anyone heard was the whining about needing money for bandwidth and for their time and for their "creations".  :roll:

I would never claim I created anything. I don't think that's right.

It's the same thing as carla niven taking a free work of someone else, and then bastardizing it and charging $1.50 for it.  :x

What about Discord Kitty? She deletes too many posts!!!!! & my experience with Lyric hasn't been good. On a topic focused on stolen meshes and content that was being put on thesims2.com's download site, she defending paysites by stating that some people needed to support their familes and children and pay bills with pay site money. What the hell? What happened to it being needed for bandwith? And how much do those particular people think they are going to charge for content in order to feed children & pay bills. That bitch is out of her mind  :? There's a big difference in running a website and having an online business to make money, but there's another thing to sell animated content that has been created by a huge company, not yourself.

This is the quote that made me start changing my mind about paysites.  That and finding out that peggy is trying to support her family off of her site.  I only wish I hadn't subbed there before I found that out.  Although I should of known, what with her prices and all.

People need less families anyway. I hate families. They disgust me. If someone's family starves as a result of what I'm doing, I'm going to feel all happy and tingly inside.

Hahaha.

Seriously, what the hell. This is like the mother of all bad excuses.

Apparently running a Sims 2 paysite is the only way in the world for a person to make money.

That is the biggest load of fucking bullshit I've ever heard.

Umm if you can't afford to feed and clothe your kids, then get off the fucking Internet, stop playing the game, get a fucking job, or DON'T HAVE FUCKING KIDS!

Edit:  It felt so good to say that, like lifting a weight off. :P

where did this one come from

From a thread on the S2C about charging for downloads.  Which has been deleted.

You are my hero for saying that. Geez people, don't live beyond your means then expect the Sims community to pay for it

Hell just canceling internet fees alone would help, not to mention the amount paid for the games along with the amount paid for a decent meshing and graphics program...  unless of course, they arent paying for the any of that either.

Arr?

Perhaps, Payton, perhaps.  I don't have a meshing program, seeing as I only ever did one meshy thing ever, and it was the biggest pain in the ass in the world.  I don't forsee myself doing any more, though I think about certain meshy things sometimes.

here is the direct quote from LyricLee from said deleted thread at S2C (Titled "Exchange Bandits") that I believe everyone is referring to:

Isn't that what a job is for?  :roll:

you can't afford to raise your own damn kids but you can afford every ts2 stuff pack and expansion pack. lyric you fucking liar.  :roll:

I'm not one to usually get involved in these arguements, but selling EA owned filetypes is against the TOS and EULA, which states that a "reasonable" fee may be charged to offset bandwidth costs ONLY. While EA has not come out and put a stop to people who create paysites for personal profit, they have not come out and said that filesharing is wrong either. As far as I can tell, filesharing is not theft because filesharers do not violate the TOS or EULA, and do not use the bandwidth of the sites that are charging these so called "reasonable fees".

The Sims is a game. Frankly, I think people who use a game to profit enough to "raise our kids" is disgusting. If you have serious problems trying to feed and clothe your children, sitting and playing a game (whether playing or creating) instead of seeking legitamate aid or work is rediculous. If you can't work for health reasons, then consider applying for disability benefits.  

I am a creator against pay sites. This does not necessarily say that I condone wholesale violation of creator rights, just that I believe that all sims content should be free. I don't expect creators to shoulder the costs of bandwidth on their own, but on my entirely free website I have recieved enough REAL donations (not in exchange for items) to offset the bandwidth costs.

Couldn't have said it better myself. >_> Keeping in mind that this is a game seems a little too much for a lot of people.

And, for some interesting reading:

Lackey: maybe someone can help me solve an argument I am having in pm
[19:14] Shnooks: i can try
[19:14] Lackey: Someone is trying to tell me the moderators at MTS2 are paid for their time
[19:14] cokenasmile: nope
[19:14] Shnooks: uh, no o.o
[19:15] LyricLee: oh jesus fucking christ
[19:15] LyricLee: you are a nosey shit arent you
[19:15] Shnooks: ?
[19:15] Lackey: so this is wrong correct?
[19:15] Shnooks: ?_?
[19:15] LyricLee: its none of your business is it now
[19:16] Shnooks: whattttt?
[19:16] Lackey: well as a donator I would have to say yes
[19:16] LyricLee: oh youre forced to donate?
[19:16] LyricLee: no we arent fucking paid- theres your answer now you can go off
[19:16] Lackey: wow
[19:17] Lackey: kinda mean are you not?
[19:17] LyricLee: only to you
[19:17] Lackey: well that is ok with me
[19:17] Lackey: used to it
[19:17] Lackey: but I dont think only to me
[19:17] LyricLee: well considering your friends
[19:17] LyricLee: it makes sense
[19:17] Shnooks: whoah, what happened to make you so Hostile, Lackey, if you dont mind me asking?
[19:18] LyricLee: inbreeding
[19:18] Lackey: I am not hostile
[19:18] Lackey: dont see me cussing
[19:18] white|afc: holy shite, what's the story with this?
[19:18] white|afc: and no, no MTS2 staff are paid
[19:18] Shnooks: OH i said that wrong xD
[19:18] Shnooks: I meant
[19:18] Lackey: thanks
[19:18] Lackey: simple answer
[19:18] Shnooks: "Whoa, what happened to make you so hostile, Lyric, if you dont mind me asking?"
[19:18] LyricLee: we barely make the damn server costs every month
[19:18] LyricLee: shnooks i do not like people who steal or their friends who steal thats all
[19:19] Lackey: I dont steal thanks
[19:19] white|afc: A content theif, Lyric?
[19:19] Shnooks: o.o okay. (I didnt know she stole?)
[19:19] Shnooks: Oh
[19:19] LyricLee: im going to be more adult and drop this now
[19:19] white|afc: We banned one the other day, no need to break the tradition...
[19:19] LyricLee: no no

(sigh) People are retarded. Though I do like how everyone was anti-Lyric until she said THEIF THEIF.

Only?  Hardly



**Note that some dialogue has been cut from this one...bit all dialogue between myself and Lyric has remained intact...the missing portions are mostly just other people in chat saying Hi to Lyric as she enters, chat between non-related members in the channel.

She really needs anger management.

InSIM has not been hosted by MTS2 since mid August so if you were banned by MTS2 as soon as InSIM moved that ban was dropped because frankly we didn't know nor did we have anything to do with it.

I have a mini-answer for this...Looking through old conversations with my boyfriend (Who used to be staff at MTS2, left by choice around the time Lyric became admin-make your own connections...)  He had made a thread a MATY kind of dissing Lyric and Delphy's poor choice for admin...and although he deleted the thread, this is part of Delphy's reply defending himself and her  He responded more than once but this is the only response I quoted in our discussions):

Oh my. Poor Lackey, she didn't deserve that AT ALL. Out of all the people I know, she has the most actual paid subscribtions to sites, numbering probably well over ten. I won't go into any details, but she probably singlehandedly keeps some of these people in business.

she makes herself sound so disgusting. & i don't believe that shit about barely being able to cover MTS2, hella people donate there. i even donated once.  :evil:

Ouch. I can't stand going to S2C anymore. Threads are deleted for silly reasons and you get beaten to the ground if you disagree with an admin or mod.

LyricLee's language really helps her image too, very mature. [/sarcasm]

Not only donations, but read their page about buying ad-space.  It even says how many clicks per day they get (about 1.2 million) so you can get a rough estimate of their ad-profits.

Beautiful wording liegenschonheit. I really don't mind sites that ask for donations for bandwidth, I just don't have the money to give them. I'm sorry I don't, I can offer my time but money is rather tight.

Speaking of tight money.. I don't see how anyone could raise their kids on money from Sims sites. What happens when the game falls out of favor? Do their kids starve because everyone is more interested in some new computer game? What rubbish! This isn't a sure, solid means of support and I don't really care if so and so's baby goes without pampers because I won't pay $15 a month for add-ons for a game. It's not my job to support someone's family because I wanted a hair mesh.

BTW, disability sucks and is not awesome. I'm on it and I barely get enough for me to live on, I can't imagine affording a family which is good enough reason not to have one.

Disability DOES suck. I was on it for awhile, and you don't get very much at all. But the point is, that there is aid available. If you have a family, you can also apply for food stamp benefits and cash aid to make ends meet. In my state, there are medical programs to help keep you and your kids healthy as well. For people who really need help, there are ways to make things work. I know because I've had to deal with that reality before.

I completely understand the not being able to donate thing. I myself am pretty strapped for cash now, and while I've donated where I could in the past, I just can't now. I also know that a lot of sims players are under 18 and don't have credit cards, or are in countries Paypal doesn't work with. I really think it is unfair to deprive them of items because of it. Pixelated items, no less.

When people CAN donate, and choose to do so, it is really helpful for people who do have bandwidth costs. I am totally appreciative every time someone donates a couple bucks to my website, because it really does help me stay open. However, demanding $5 from everyone who downloads from me is rediculous and frankly more money than I need. It isn't about bandwidth at that point, it's about profit.

It seems like this is the stock excuse for a shitty administrator (chosen by the site owner) on any forum that has anything to do with gaming, ever. I have seriously seen something in this format roughly 20 times so far. The site owner always seems to have a case of Avoidant Personality Disorder and attempts to dodge reality in every possible way. Even if it kills their site. No, it doesn't make sense.

I don't know these people personally, but in all honesty, this is crap. They're both old acquaintances and Lyric has the position purely due to preferential treatment. And so it will remain until she relinquishes that position.

Blech. Now I remember why I never post on MTS2/S2C beyond comments pertaining directly to downloads, and even then, there's drama.  Always the stupid whiny 11-year-old drama. But these people are usually adults.

Anyway, I need to say no to posting at 4am. But to be perfectly honest, if she's using paysite money to support children, maybe the lack of money will be proper incentive to get a real goddamn job and, even better, stop breeding for the good of humanity. Because if this is just a small sampling of her greatness, than she's not doing anyone any favors by spawning.

Just... ew.

liegen that sums it up perfectly. When you think about how much money we have wasted on the games themselves it seems like a crime to charge people for downloads.

Ok so i'm not sure if this is where i should post this but i've looked around and it seems the most appropriate. I just wanted to voice my opinion on a few things. I really hope you guys can be open minded and not be rude about them either.

- I agree that paysites that call their pay section a donation section are idiots. It is not a donation it is you paying for a product and recieving it.

- In regards to the moderators on S2C and MTS2 i don't think people quite realise how much shit they have to put up with. They are using their own free time to keep a website (which you gotta admit we all love) free and running. They have hundreds of complaints from whingey little 14 year olds every day and quite often are forced to deal with some of the most unintelligent shit you've ever heard. I know i would definately get frustrated after awhile if i had hundreds of people a week come to me with their internet dilemmas just because they can't find the maturity to deal with it themselves. I do also agree that it is quite often that people don't like a mod because they don't like them on a personal level. Moderators often discuss situations with other moderators before making any decisions. Try being in a moderating position yourself before you judge other moderators so harshly. Also remember...lyric may have gone wrong in some ways (i'm not fully aware of the dispute) but i'm trying to give you a basic understanding of the moderators position so you can have some empathy.

- Now. To the main matter at hand. The new Pescado site and the view that all paysites must be destroyed.

First of all i am unsure about the legalities of this and whether or not EA Games really doesn't allow products other people make for The Sims 2 to be used commercially or not. So please take the following opinions on hand regardless of whether or not it is or isn't legal.

Paying for a membership of a paysite is a personal choice. You are not being forced to pay for it. The people creating their content don't have to make those files available to you. They could keep it for their own personal use.

Granted many paysites do charge outrageous prices, but some of them are worth paying for. Creators put in a hell of a lot of time, work and effort into creating these, why shouldn't they get some compensation?

I do think that saying they charge those prices for bandwidth is a pathetic excuse as we're not all stupid enough to believe it. If it was for bandwidth they'd be doing something along the lines of what Nouk does on her site, where a certain amount that is needed for something is put up and people can freely donate.

However creators are doing this because they need the money. The money they make from it is what they live off. Which i think is a perfectly reasonable reason. I just think they should admit it rather than treating us like we're stupid by covering it up with the whole naming it a ' donation ' section and saying it's for bandwidth lie.

The Pescado site is hurting a lot of people and making a lot of people happy at the same time. Soon there will be a backlash and creators (all our favourites) will just stop creating.

Honestly, i like that i can get all of those files for free but i also care about the people who are trying to make a living from it. I don't care whether it's legal or not. Probably because i think it should be legal. I'm actually quite disgusted at all of the people who are being so disprespectful and downright rude to creators. If we're going to share their files, at least do it privately so we're not being a bunch of cunts and shoving it in their faces.

If you think it's such a 'waste' to spend money on The Sims 2 then you obviously can't like the game much. If you don't like it, don't buy the expansion packs, don't play the game and save yourself all that money that is being so 'wasted'.

Yes. I agree. It's pathetic that adults can be so immature. But i'm sure that much of it is simply because it's over the internet and they can get away with being morons. Obviously you're sick of seeing it, don't you think moderators would be sick of dealing with it.



That's a very judgemental opinion without knowing the full situation. You don't know what position she is in in her life. After reading that comment two words came to mind in regards to you, ' Rude Pig'.  

What makes you say that creating custom content isn't a real job. Does that mean all the people at EA Games that create The Sims 2 don't have real jobs either? Have you created custom content before. It takes a great deal of graphic art talent, patience and damn hard work to make a genuinely good peice of custom content. There are programs that creators pay for. Making a mesh requires 3D programing/creation and a lot of fussing around with numbers, variations and computer files.

Everyone should put themselves in these positions and give custom content creation and meshing a go before they go blowing shit out of their mouths and being so judgemental.

Do you *honestly* think people will stop producing Sims 2 content because we are not paying them for their creations? Not being compensated for their craft hasn't stopped creators from a bunch of other gaming communities. People are happy to do stuff for free, as long as other people are *using* their creations and enjoying them. There is tons of evidence within the Sims 2 community to support this.

 You go ahead and believe what the paysites want you to believe.

Well, I wouldn't say we *ALL* love it. Some of us are banned from it, others of us have a certain bemused tolerance for it, others not-so-bemused, and some of us simply avoid the place.


That is partly a product of atmosphere they cultivate, and frankly they have no one to blame for that but themselves. Me, I find that whiny 12 year olds are best dealt with with a quick and direct outpouring of bile for daring to disturb you with their idiotic whining. This discourages them from bothering you again and is ultimately better for them. They may as well learn that in real life, their problems are theirs and no one else's.


Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. LyricLee is not a good moderator. She is not objective, acts upon irrelevant offsite personal issues, and does not consider her actions tactically.


And having bought it, it is then up to them to decide what to do with it, no? I go to a store, I buy something, it's mine now. If I want to give it away, I can do that.

Copyright, you say? Well, there's the unfortunate problem that no one really knows who legally owns it, if anyone. That means the only thing we really have is dealing with it as a commodity. EA's EULA claims ownership of all the materials, but EULAe haven't been found legally binding. Paysites themselves swipe meshes and textures off other sites and photographs. Who really owns anything? Hard to say. Certainly no one wants to fight it out on court, and certainly no one can come up with a conclusive judgement recognized by all countries around the world, such as the one this site operates in.


Who says they don't? Someone had to buy the item. There's your compensation right there.


And people do, yes? Clearly it's a model that works. Notice how no one really objects to Nouk doing that. The donations are not tied to the items at all.


Well, sure, it seems like a reasonable reason, but not necessarily one we agree with. Everyone needs money to live off of, but you're certainly not entitled to money from the sky, after all.


And give up the precious money they need to live off of? I don't see that happening. So long as they're making a profit, and I don't see them going into the red anytime soon, they're going to keep doing it if it's really an economic decision. That, or they're going to stop and get a real freaking job.


Well, part of an even older tradition is that one does not charge for third-party game modifications. These creators ignore this ancient tradition, and then expect us to respect their traditions when they themselves ignore even older ones? Not gonna happen.


Well, yeah, that's the approach that other sites use. I, however, am not called a "Fat Obstreperous Jerk" for no reason. I am obstreperous. I am loud and in your face. And I'm a jerk. So this is why I have chosen to run my site in such a fashion. Enjoy the free swag, or not. After all, no one puts a gun to your head and makes you download.

So yeah, that's basically why it works. That's my personal philosophy, and I'm going to stick to it. Unlike certain hypocrites we could name.


MTS2 seems successful and unkilled, and LyricLee seems to at least manage to restrain her outbursts to the much smaller live chat and largely off-topic S2C subsite, at any rate. And who doesn't dodge reality? We're here because we play video games. Is that not a reality dodge right there? Because let's face it, reality is overrated.


That's a pretty common and accepted method of acquiring positions.


I personally find the idea of children starving to death amusing. It always gives me a chuckle to imagine some paysite owner's screaming spawn starving to death from the loss in revenue I might be causing. That just makes me feel all tingly inside, and would make me sleep like a baby if I actually did that entire "sleep" thing, but frankly, I hate sleep, so I don't.


Me, I do my stuff for me. I just let you people test it for me. Free guinea pigs. What's not to like? This is why I don't actually do requests, unless they're excellent ideas that I'm glad I thought of first, of course.

My, my. I'd 'donate' to LyricLee to fund her getting her tubes tied, as if she has more kids than she can pay for before the age of 30, she obviously needs assistance.

Not that I'm defending LyricLee or anything, but I am just wondering if what she said on s2C about raising kids on the money from paysites was relating to her, or she was saying it about someone else.  Because I got the impression she was defending someone else with that statement, but then everyone started talking as if it were herself, so now I have no idea.

Most likely she was speaking of herself, she didn't specify anyone directly. She was defending creators custom content when that load of crap slipped out.

Before starting, I'd love to introduce myself.
I'm Stella, and you can find me with this nickname both on MtS and on S2C.

Just in case someone wants to look at my IP and my logs, ..don't.
Yes, I have downloaded from this site and no, I'm not gonna deny it.
..But God-our-savior told me to do it, so, don't blame me for that  (http://www.simplystella.com/icons/asd.gif)

By-the-way (http://www.simplystella.com/icons/asd.gif)
I just couldn't resist from posting a couple of words about our beloved LyricLee.
Someone mentioned the "Exchange Bandits" thread over S2C.
I am one of those who took part of the huge fight.. or maybe I even started it, not sure about it.

I don't think that LL was talking specifically about herself with the "raising kid" line, but more generally of pay sites owners.
When I read it I almost started laughing. Usually pay-creators take the time to make up some story about the bandwith costs and such, but not Lyric :lol:
And when I mentioned that, here, were I live, people have "this very weird thing called work" to raise their kids, I was called rude, evil, demeaning, nasty, and at the very end I was even threatened to be banned  :roll: .
What I found really amusing was how a simple statement ("it's not legal to sell Sims 2 custom content") was turned into a general message against every kind of online commerce  :?

I tried to keep talking about the original subject of the topic, but after seeing that it's not possible to have a mature and polite debate with some people, I just gave up.
Unluckly, this means I missed the final part of the thread.. since it was deleted (so if anybody have it saved somewhere.. I'd love to read the rest :D )

Beside this, I can't say I hate LyricLee. After my small fight with her, I was contacted by a bunch of "LyricLee haters", and I admit I was kinda ..puzzled. I knew that a lot of people didn't like her - but I had no idea so many people in fact *hate* her.
I don't know, I just feel a bit sorry for her. I really hope that she isn't similar to her online persona, because if she is, then I highly doubt she will ever have any true friend - just a bunch of ass-lickers, if she hold a certain position.

I've also lost lot of respect for Delphy. I found out a lot of things about the guy that I would have never thought.
That quote posted by Immortal says a lot about it.

I have no idea of the context in wich this words were written, so I really can't judge or anything, but the way LL conduct is always supported by her clique is upsetting.

I for one am not judging her as a person, I don't even know the kid! I'm judging her as admin of a community - and I dare to say she's pretty much too over the top to be a good mod.


As for the whole paysite thing.. I could stay here hours talking about it :wink: .
Just to sum it up, I can say that I don't like pay sites, I don't believe one should make profit from TS2, and most of all, if paysite owner would stop to make content because of file-sharing, I couldn't care less.
There will always be free creators sharing their stuff for the simple pleasure of seeing others using it. Like I do (http://www.simplystella.com/icons/asd.gif)

I'd love to reason this points closely, but my poor english keep me from doing it  :lol:

I'm done. My two cents were given.. goodnight  :wink:
(http://www.starsims.net/forum/images/smiles/duckie.gif)

Then don't fucking buy the game since you're wasting your money on it.  :roll: you and your croonies over at insim are no better. :twisted: fucked up mods and admins are everywhere.

Oh Xerolize, before you talk, you should know what the fuck you are talking about, m'kay?

no shit those stupid threads with ozzucay etc over in squinges mod section are retarded and annoying.

http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=26190
http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=25685

you guys are retarded

If you all have a problem with one of kathy's moderators, try PMing her at Insim rather than attacking her for no bloody reason here.

But this whole thread is about attacking people, or I guess it's okay to attack some and not others?

Uh, no, this original thread was finishing what was started with LyricLee and Lackey and then some took it to the attack level.  But if you want to bitch about Insim, then start a new damn thread.  

If you have a serious question/concern/gripe about an Insim mod, then talk to the admin over at Insim about it, at least you know they're more likely to actually listen to your whining, unline MTS2.

Edit:  And I've just read those threads.  While they are sorta annoying, there's no one forcing you to read them, clearly from the title you can see they're not serious threads.  So yeah, start a new thread bitching about that.

Kiss my ass. Point check if you don't like it don't waste my bandwidth visiting it.

And Pirate.... I'd rather them act the way they do than have corn cobs up their ass like many of the twats in this community.

I couldn't tell... the verbal diahrrea that she uses for communication doesn't make a lot of sense. I'd still donate towards her sterilization - at least a reversible kind until the point she stops acting like a bossy teenager who's been made hall monitor.

I'm with Stella, I don't hate LyricLee either. No reason to, really. She has her own opinion, we have ours. We CAN be adults about this without stooping to name calling, can't we?

And wow, some of you people really jumped to the wrong conclusion about what Kathy said. EA overcharges for EPs and "stuff packs". Unfortunately, there is nothing legal we can do about it. It costs a lot of money to keep buying the games. Being expected to pay for content that EA has stated must be free is stupid. If paysite owners want to talk about legality, they don't have a leg to stand on. Also, many of these site owners use free meshes from other sites, or do photoskinning from textures they have found online. If the owners of these resources knew that they were using their property for profit, they would probably be pissed.

And yes, I am a creator. I do know how much time and effort goes into this stuff. I do it because I enjoy it, and the fact that people want to download and use my creations makes it worthwhile to me. I also have a non-obligatory paypal donation button on my site. Like I've said before, enough people click it to keep me open and running and cover site costs. I don't expect to be compensated for my "work".

Kiss mine cunt. I don't visit your site anymore so don't worry about your precious bandwidth.

Since i like bluesoup i'll stop this now. Back to the scheduled program.

Apologies to BlueSoup from myself, I misunderstood what you were saying in the first place.

No problem, guys. :)

Oh boy.. this arguement again about creators getting paid for their time.  :roll:

For the record, I have spent most of my adult life writing fanfic, fan-novels and original fiction. I've spent more time on that than any of the Sims creators have spent on any item ever made and I haven't gotten paid a dime. Most often, I share my work with those who appreciate it and might be inspired to write their own or just be made happy by it. That's my payment - my work being enjoyed by another and if people want to donate to me a resource book I need or artwork or money for bandwidth (back when I had a site) or ink for my printer, well then I let them but I don't charge for my many weeks, months and sometimes years of effort. I think a 600 page fan novel takes considerably more work than a hair recolor and I never charged anyone $10 per page.

Plus.. now here's the most important part... I choose to write just like creators choose to make items. It's not a job, it's something done for fun and enjoyment. No one makes these creators put out new objects, no one forces them to design new meshes. They do it to improve the game. Now if they themselves had created and owned The Sims 2 - they could by all rights charge... but they don't. It's just like fanfic, the parent company is allowing them to use their resources to create and so long as the items in question are for The Sims 2, only EA owns the right to charge per item. Be thankful EA isn't cracking down and allows players to create and distribute fan content. Keep abusing the system and they might start.

As for the game costing alot. Well.. it does. I've spent $350 this year between expansion packs and upgrades to my computer. The point being made is the game is expensive enough without paysites trying to milk every last drop. Let's face it, EA is pretty shitty when it comes to content for male sims. If I want say long hair on my male sim, why should I have to fork over $20 to someone who maybe put a few hours of work into shaping a mesh? Why shouldn't EA get any of that money? We pay that much for a "stuff pack" and the community is already unhappy about that, why give that much to one site for maybe a few meshes?

Another important point - not everyone has a credit card or Paypal. By making a site pay, you're shutting those folks out and as one of those who didn't have either option for years, I can say that sucks pretty hard. A lot of folks I knew in the Sims 1 days who were file sharers were under 18 or in other countries where Paypal wasn't available. Okay sure, tell them to do without. Well maybe that would be okay if you had any right to charge and make profit to begin with..

So if it costs so much.. why do I buy the Sims? To be honest, it distracts me from my disability and fills the long hours while I'm stuck inside. I'm sorry if someone thinks I'm not entitled to a hobby because my income level won't allow me to afford $50 in paysites per month. I do tend to go without a few things when a new expansion comes out but it's not something I could afford all the time. Rest assured if it cost $15 to play the Sims every month, I wouldn't. I don't play WoW or Evercrack or any of those pay per month games.

Now the mean and snarky remark.. if these creators are that talented and that deserving of being paid.. why aren't they working for a computer gaming company or in jobs as computer programmers or doing anything in that field?

And lastly, Lyriclee's attitude upsets me. I know mods suffer from tons of stress and bullshit but the whole reason they are chosen as mods is because they are suppose to know how to handle that without reverting to behaving like a child and waving a ban stick while uttering the F word. Moderators are also expected to obey their own rules. If Lyriclee behaved that way and wasn't a mod, don't you think her ass would be banned?

I ramble.. I think I'll get some coffee

I completely and totally agree with everything you just said. So let me just say

"Ditto."

First I agree with everything you said... I want to elaborate for a moment though. Moderating/Administrating does get very stressful. Especially if you have a number of people who have acted like complete jerks that day.. so yeah you know we are human. We do "lose" it on occasion. What you need to remember though, or try to, is the fact that most of these people, infact I dare say 95% of them, aren't looking to cause trouble. They are looking for a little help. Sure they might be impatient and might not give you all the details initially regarding their problem/problems but they still deserve help, tolerance and a bit of respect. Every one of us were new at one time.

Spoken like someone straight out of customer service. :D
Remember, you have to deal with them for five minutes. They have to deal with themselves for the rest of their life. Pshaw! (Feel bad for her ickle kiddies.)

I think another problem as well is that a lot of admins and mods don't seem to post much outside of correcting people, answering basic questions and the like. So they don't seem a part of that specific board community or regular posters or whatever you want to call it. They kind of seem like the principal while everyone else is in school having fun with each other. Maybe if they relaxed a bit and joined in discussions and posted stuff not related to moderating it would be different.

Well I don't think anyone can say that about me coughpostwhorecough.

LOL...um, if I'm not mistaken you have more posts than anyone else at InSim :P

I don't?  Both my boyfriend and I were former MTS2/S2C staff members.  The most drama I was ever involved in there was caused by fellow staff members.

The problem with that, PirateBooty, is that a board may be so freakin' busy (or lame and childish :P) that the mods don't have time to do much else than moderate.  If they were a member before they became a moderator, then their friends might even be resentful of it as well.

I can't imagine it's easy to be a moderator, but that is still no excuse to treat others like LyricLee does.

My favorite part of the discussion was where someone own-goaled their argument by bringing in World of Warcrap gold-selling as a defense for the validity of paysites....except World of Warcrap gold-selling is verboten and you can be banned for doing it.


The entire disaster area was clipped and saved here (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/hate/dramafest.doc). Enjoy.

That's the one I did for SFV! =p

Yes, yes it is. I was wondering what you decided to be named here.

People do create because they enjoy creating. Not everyone is stupid enough to do something they don't enjoy just to make money. Many small businesses are started from a hobby turning into a business. Why could this not be exactly the same. I do believe that creators that have no free section are purely in it for the money but what about paysites that do have a free section and offer other services as well.

The problem with that, Elmo, is that it is not legal for these paysite owners to charge for content.  They do not have ownership rights.  Especially the photoskinners, who most certainly do not own the rights to the photo they're using.

They can sell time on their website, and some can pay, but then they can't bitch about others sharing it, since they're not costing the site owner bandwidth or anything.

Well all i can say is you're obviously banned for a reason. I've done things wrong on there before and got warnings but if you're a total fuckwit on there you're going to get banned. Yes i know some moderators probably are dickheads who are greedy for power and ban people on a personal basis but i don't think any more of them than i do of the idiots who did something stupid enough to get themselves banned.



What makes you say Moderators aren't dealing with 12 year olds that way? It's the 42 year olds acting like 12 year olds that really shit moderators up the wall. There is so much high school bullshit happening in the general sims 2 community (including here) and it'd be really nice for everyone if we could all just fucking grow up. Also i'm  not quite sure how much of an atmosphere you can create over the internet. Different people interpret things differently. Some people love the moderators and love the atmosphere over there and obviously some people hate it. The people that hate it are usually the people who have not followed the rules and have been warned or banned for it.

I do think a few of the moderators over there should step down. Yes they have done good things and bad things but i can just see them being mature enough to let the fire die down before i can see any of the people who aren't moderators doing that.



Like i said i was talking in general about Moderators, trying to give the people who haven't moderated before a perspective on the situation. I also said i didn't know the full extent of LyricLee's bad moderating. If what you guys say about her is true then i completely agree that she shouldn't be a moderator.



I think if certain important people in the community (for instance the paysite owners and yourself, maybe also moderators) could sit down and discuss the situation privately and maturely then we could come to some kind of conclusive judgement. All of those people are in positions of power in the sims 2 community where they could enforce it.



Right now only one person has to buy it and it's up for free. For instance you pay for one month membership to Peggy which is $9.95 and every single other person in the world gets it for free. Wow. Ten dollars is huge compensation for days of work. Obviously creators like that are in it for the money to a certain extent but they wouldn't do it if they didn't enjoy it and if they were only in it for the money they wouldn't have a free section.



Yep. Thanks for repeating my point.



What makes this money from the sky? The people at EA Games get paid for it, why can't creators?



Firstly, what makes that not a real job? Web design is a real job. 3D programming is a real job. Clearly this could be classified as a real job too.

Why the hell wouldn't they go into the red when just like i said before it only takes one person to pay a small amount of money before it's free for everyone here. No one is going to pay for a membership when they could have it for free here.



Just wondering where these 'traditions' are carved into stone?



I admire that you can at least admit to being a jerk. Not often i find someone else who can admit their own faults. Whether we download it or not is not the point. The point is that the files are there in the first place.

Well i'm not sure about the legalities of things yet as i haven't read into it. Although i plan to. What would you all say about creators charging for the content if they did have ownership rights and they did have rights to the photos they were using? Then would it be ok or still no.

First, if I was a moderator I would hope that I would have enough class not to be a total bitch to everyone based solely on an assumption of what I feel is right.

Second, Lyric MAY have, I have seen rabid dogs more tame then her.

Third, Maybe if she would shit can some of that attitude of her's and at least try to be civil to people, there would not be an ever growing thread about her.

Fourth, If we are so wrong about the crazy, wild eyed boar then why has she not taken the time to come here and answer for herself.

Fifth, Maybe if sites kept it to bandwidth and stopped trying to financial rape everyone that breathes, a site like this would not be needed.

Sixth, and this is just my own personal thing here. I am so sick of the bleeding hearts, they need the money, they work hard, they spend all their time , SHIT, that I just want to bitch slap the next one that says it.
If they are so over worked and under appreciated then why dont they just QUIT doing it.
There are many, and I do mean MANY creators out there that have free sites and only rely on the kindness of others to make it work.

Seventh, They cant afford bandwidth? Fine, post your stuff on a free site like MTS2, or put it on TSR, they will even pay them. Why does every single Joe Blow have to open their own paysite? MONEY MONEY MONEY
Get it?

I just finished reading that whole dramafest thing.
I can't understand why a person like her still has fandogs drooling over her every word. "Yes, LyricLee! You're so right! You're so talented! Whee~!" Ick. They disgust me.
On the same note, I found much amusement in the fact that she kept fighting an argument, seemingly by herself. People would be talking about something different, and she'd say something inane that was completely ridiculous and not valid, and her fandogs would foam at the mouth, and she'd swear... Gah. Ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

Lackey, if you don't mind me asking, why did you get banned from there?  Obviously you don't need to "steal" because you sub to many sites per month, and you were never as rude as Lyric in your replies.

Oh, I have no doubts MTS2 will be around for a rather long time, but I was saying I've seen this phenomenon be the primary cause of death to various sites.

And "reality dodge" to a point. Becoming active in an online community means involving oneself with real people and their associated issues. The 'reality' I was referring to is a situation in which one/several people in a group cause problems for the whole - in this case, LL's behavior isn't good for the S2C's name and has to be irritating to the rest of the moderating team because of collective blame. The 'dodge' is the fact that Delphy seems to feel this is acceptable and productive in some way. I hope that made more sense. I'm not good at expressing things like this. : /

Edit: Actually, the first post by "nectere" (I think) demonstrates how I feel about this.

Edit 2: in the dramafest document thingy.



Can't agree with you there. I love sleep. : P

I got banned because I was winning. She thought all of her little buddies would come to her rescue and instead she got attacked. I got banned because that is what they do. They are freely allowed to call people names and swear like a sailor but members are not allowed the same privileges. I told Lyric she thinks she is better than everyone else(true) I told her she walks around with her nose in the air(true) Then I said I hoped a bird would come along and shit in her mouth so she would be forced to look at people at eye level(true)



Obviously it could not be Lyriclee's fault? Maybe you are allowed to make mistakes because you are a brown noser? I see you have been taking lessons from Lyric how to talk out of both sides of your mouth at the same time. May I suggest you re-read what that says?



Most drug dealers would claim they have a real job too. Doesnt make it legal.



At least you understand the purpose.



Because it is legal for them and not for the creators.



Are you a judge? Positions of Power? Enforce it? Have you gone mad? Are you planning to go to every single computer and stop all of this? Try different words those are to big for you.



We already know this. Try telling the other this.



I will consider your position when you have enough balls to say this to Lyriclee. Makes me wonder just how many benes you get for coming here and being her body guard. At least you wont get banned. I love a good debate. To bad Lyriclee is to chicken shit to fight her own battles. I have no ban button here. This is neutral turf but she wont come here. Why? Because she is wrong and she knows it. My question is--If she wont defend herself then why are you doing it. Further more--No one held a gun to your head and made you come here.

How many files have you downloaded?

Okay, Lackey wasn't rude (man Dramafest '06 makes good Friday night reading for those stuck at home), but he/she was poking a bit with a big pokey stick.

But don't get me wrong, Lackey was asking good questions. So good for Lackey. Holy shit, that shit was a mess. LyricLee needs to take some time off, I think. She seems really tightly wound.

ETA: Alright, I missed the bird shit thing. But I still say that Lackey was asking good questions. Props.

Maybe because they don't own the rights to The Sims 2 and can't legally profit from things created to work with it?

Hey I know, I write Kingdom Hearts fan stories. I'll self publish them and charge people $10 per chapter to read without crediting Disney or Square-Enix and without their expressed approval to profit from their works. After all I deserve to profit from something I choose to do of my own free will and for my own enjoyment with someone else's copyrighted creations. I should be compensated for time I freely spend and happily devote to my hobby. So.. given that situation, how long do you think it'll take Disney and Square-Enix to shut my ass down for copyright infringement and drag me to court, hmn?

Bull-fucking-shit. I spent ten years writing a fan-novel because I wanted to. I don't deserve to magically be showered with cash in compensation for my lost time, it was time I freely sacrificed for something I wanted to do. It's like asking for compensation for playing golf or watching football or playing with your kids on a weekend. Those aren't jobs.

Someday I MIGHT make money from my writing ability.. but it will be because I created my own fiction and sold it. If the sim creators want to profit from this like they would from a job, create your own damn game and sell it.

You know, I used to think LyricLee was a teenager. She acts very similar to some of the fifteen-year-olds I've met. I was surprised when it was mentioned that she has children. Are you sure she's an adult, and not just lying because it's the internet and she can? I don't mean that as an insult, either. I'm honestly curious.



That's just a wee bit gross. It must have taken balls of steel and a damn good proxy in order to say that to ban-happy Lyric, though I doubt she's the only moderator who would want to ban you for that comment. :)

On a side note, just how much bandwidth do you guys have? Don't feel threatened at all by another creator ambush?  :wink: Although I doubt they would try it again; there are an awful lot of large-ish files, and their internet would probably die before the bandwidth did. Or am I the only one with limited usage?

Ok all i want to say to this is i don't know Lyric, i've never talked to her, through as much as i know of her i don't like her and i haven't been sent by her.

Secondly you're a fucking idiot because if you had read what i'd said properly i have mentioned that i am not defending Lyric as i don't know the full situation with her and i'm sure what you are all saying about her is probably true. I'm just trying to let you know what it's like to be a moderator as you are attacking ALL the moderators at S2C not just Lyric. Get it. No? Fuck off then.

Yet again if you had read what i've said properly i said that i downloaded files. I'm not a liar. Of coarse i'm going to download them if i can have them for free rather than pay for them. However i still think it's immature that all this shit is even happening in the first place. You will probably say if you're against it then don't download it but me not downloading isn't going to stop it. One person protesting isn't going to make you shut down the site and have an open mind to other people's feelings. Most of you are stuck to your opinions and unwilling to consider anyone elses. Which is part of the reason why this is all fucked in the first place and no one can come to a conclusive judgement.

As for you asking if i've gone mad. No i haven't. No i'm not going to go around to everyone's computers and stop this. I know it's still going to happen behind the scenes i just think it's rude to shove it in their faces. As for enforcing rules, that's what moderators do and paysite owners can put them in place but clearly we're not going to physically go to people's houses and delete files. You're an idiot for even thinking that i would be that stupid.

I prefer to mock their pathetic issues and tell them to quit whining, personally. Because people whine too much.


Unlimited. So no. They can download until their hard drives explode, and we'll just sit here and laugh at them.

Bandwidth is unmetered.  So far this month, we've chewed up well over 750GB.

So a creator "attack" (if that's what they want to call snagging free goodies, ok then) will accomplish nothing, but our glee at how much bandwidth we're using.



Including you, since you don't seem to be wavering from your opinion either.  My opinion is formed after being in this community for two years, and seeing the baldfaced bandwidth lies turn into lies of having to feed the creator's kids.  And I've already made my opinion on THAT known.

Edit:  And you should learn to edit your posts instead of double, triple or even quadruple-posting.

I was a mod at MTS2/S2C...she became admin shortly after attacking me in chat.  I've never spoken to a member in a manner anywhere near the way she does.  I also am admin at my own site now...a small site, but stil-I have never spoken to a member like that, there is no excuse.

After reading that Dramafest, all I can say is that MTS2 is turning into a paysite friendly police state.

I think Lyric is mental, and needs to go work for the RIAA as they are the only ones who could appreciate a rabid fanatic like Lyric.

I can't stand it when people exploit a fanbase for profit. I make some pretty nice skins, but I'd never charge for them - I want as many people to have my stuff as possible, cause then my ego gets all warm and fuzzy.

Pes can run this site for something like $50 (a figure I heard him mention) with unlimited bandwidth, and no real lag time or any other problem.

This points out that bandwidth is never really an issue, if you look hard enough.

I would prefer that paysites be honest - I'm charging for this cause it's what I do for a living. I bet they don't pay tax on their "income".

Hey, life's tough, I scrape by as do most others in this world, no one gets a free ride, and maybe more people would respect those that do exploit the fanbase a little more if they were honest. (maybe not, who knows)

I stay away from some of the mmorpgs because of the selling stuff for real cash thing.

Think about it - for 4 hair updates and one gift people pay Peggy $10 US. While the EA content isn't always as pretty a stuff pack is better value in terms of objects per dollar. And yet it's okay for *everyone* to bag EA for profiteering. This is the company that *legally* is allowed to profiteer.

In that thread Maria V stated that she uses profits for software and computer upgrades to help her creations. We are paying for her to further her hobby. I would *love* for someone to help me to further my hobby of owning diamond jewellery - I'll even send you a really pretty picture of me wearing said jewellery as a "donation gift".

I guess what pisses me off about it all is the comeback "if you were a creator then you would know how it feels to have something stolen". Lets be honest, no real creator gives a flying fuck about the exchange. Every now and then the exchange spawns some real talent, they always go to a private site sooner or later. I've seen my stuff on the exchange without credit and thought - who cares? Its not like I will die if those people who are downloading that don't know its mine, I'm never going to be able to sleep at night again knowing that people are sharing *my* creations.

I personally applaud Nouk's way of accepting help for the cost of hosting her creations.  I think that should be the only way of getting money from a site - with a break down of costs and money received.

-Missy

Me too. How about all the fans of my work get together and buy me an all region PS3 so I can keep playing the series I write about? Oh wait, that's not going to happen because I'd never expect that or insist they do that to keep reading what I write. I'd be paying for it myself since it's for my benefit. Oh well.

And hey, talk about issue dodging. I've brought it up twice that ANY unlicensed creator of works using someone elses copyrighted characters/programs/game systems/what-have-you has no right to profit from their efforts, especially if it falls under the catagory of a hobby they willingly pursued and they are not employed by the copyright holders. Elmo seems to be ignoring that one. I hate to tell you it takes a heck of a lot more work to write a decent story than it does to color a hair mesh and fanfic writers get zip for their efforts. In fact, if someone tried to charge for fanfic to feed their kids, the fandom community as a whole would point and laugh and the parent company would issue a C&D order before you could blink. Why is Sims 2 any different? Are you saying someone who cranked out four hair meshes in two months deserves to be paid but a fan writer who puts out fourty pages in the same time doesn't?

Right.

If they want to make money on objects creating, get a fucking job at EA Games.

Thats what Im planning to do  :twisted:

For starters i've only ever posted 3 times in a row. I don't usually do this but thought i would considering how long the first post was, i didn't want one whole page long post. I guess it comes down to opinion yet again though on whether or not that was the right decision.

I'm not changing my opinion completely but i have however said that i understand your side of the argument and after reading things agree with some of the things you have said. I don't recall a single one of you agreeing with anything i have said or even admitting to understanding my opinion. I too have been in this community for over two years and have already said that i agree that the bandwidth lies are pathetic bullshit.



As i have said about 3 or 4 times before i am not speaking about LyricLee. I said i don't know the full situation with her but from what i've heard i agree with everything you guys are saying about her. I did however see that not just Lyric was being attacked, all the moderators on S2C were being attacked and i wanted the people who haven't moderated before to have some understanding of what it's like to be moderator before making any generalisations.

LyricLee has acted pathetically and i agree that she should not be a moderator. Being a moderator is about being in a position of reasonable power over a forum and dealing with issues like a mature adult, something she has clearly failed at. So they should get rid of her. Can i make it any clearer that i agree with you?



Not everyone lives in America or wants to move there.

EA is an MNC, so don't let that stop any of the paysite owners from realizing their dreams to get paid for making their creations. Good luck getting through the door, though :P

Thanks, I'm gonna study in America probably, EA has their own studies if I read it good  :o  and Ive already have my A contacts  8)  

But yeah, EA even has studies in england, so that shouldnt stop the creators  :lol:  

Where was it that I read a creator should contact EA.. oh wait that was Sunair. Someone said to Sunair that (s)he should contact EA because his/her hairs kicked EA's butt  :lol:
I had to retexture them all, gawd.

Well i'm sure if creators knew it was a possiblity they would do it. I most certainly would. I guess the difference with doing it on their website is they can do it from home and be their own boss.

That's a really lame comeback, really, because I *AM* a creator, and I don't give a shit about this "stolen" business. I make my shit for me. I don't care who else uses it. It's not like I make any money off it. MATY does not have a redistribution policy because I frankly don't care enough to bother writing a document that doesn't say anything substantive anyway. I mean, what would I say anyway? Do? So why bother? Don't? And I'm supposed to enforce this how? Pointless.

So clearly the people that do make money off it would care. That's what makes it stealing to them.

...except you're not supposed to be making any money off it.

Ok I will try to understand your opinion but first I have to get it right.

Sharing pay files openly is bullshit, like rubbing in their face? Your opinion correct? Then I think you said you downloaded them. So if I translate it, you actually said it is bullshit to do it openly but you dont really care of enough not to download them. I would respond with, if you dont care about that opinion I guess I wont either. If you truly had any real opinion about it, you would not have downloaded the files.



Ok, you agree. Here is the thing. Site owners ban people for no more reason than they are associated with Pescado. They ban people for things they do outside of their forums. Everyone here is guilty by association.
Lyriclee has lost control of her body. She is a demon spawn. She goes around the boards she mods/admins at and acts like a lunatic. Her fellow modders say nothing, do nothing and most actually defend her. So, if the other moderators are thrown into the bunch it is their own fault. Why are they afraid of her? Tell her what she is! A good friend would tell her how stupid she looks in the eyes of others. Not to mention Lyric actually goes to other sites and gets you banned from there as well. Reflex forums comes to mind. Reflex had no reason to ban me there, but they did.

 



We have come to a conclusive judement. Paysites SUCK! They are greedy, selfish people that own sites that (MUST BE DESTROYED).

I think rather than bitching about Pescado, they should thank him. Look at all the bandwidth cost he has been saving them.

You have saved yourself some money but rather than appreciate all those goodies you got, you come here and try to argue how it should be taken down. What about the ones that have not had the chance to get the goodies yet? Kinda selfish isnt it?
I will tell you the same thing I told LyricHag, if you want to argue a point, it is best to do it BEFORE you download the files. After, it seems, what is that word she likes,  is hypocritical.



I got banned and if you read the thread it is in, you would find that it is no where near as bad as calling someone a thief, repeatedly. That was the whole point of the thread. Lyriclee comes here and downloads all the files, then in her high and mighty attitude she calls someone a thief for doing the same thing. She uses the word fuck like most people use the word "and". She takes every single op she gets to downgrade and ridicule people. All those are far worse than saying a bird should shit in her mouth.

If they really are as good as they pretend, then EA Games would be jumping for joy if they send them a e-mail.

 :roll: luckily they arent

She does seem to like to wave the word 'thief' around a lot, but for the most part it's harmless. I'm sure she uses that sort of thing to try and intimidate the younger folks. If you know it's fake, you should try not to let it bother you. It makes me chuckle when I see her "NO EXCHANGE!!!" graphic. You know, the one with the fire? She just desperately wants full control over what she views as her copyright (even though it's obvious she doesn't make those textures herself, and most of her stuff is a recolor of someone else's mesh). She's a thief, too, so maybe when she screams at you it's just her way of expressing affection. Two lady friends can call each other bitches, and it isn't always an insult. It's not until someone else says it that it becomes a problem. See what I mean? She calls you a thief because she LOVES you!

But yeah, I know what you mean and I see why you would get frustrated. That's really got to suck when she hunts you down on different forums just to ban you. I've had my posts deleted, but I've never been banned by her. I didn't know she behaved in such an abusive manner until I came here, and then it was a bit of a surprise because everyone over at MTS2 acts like she's an angel. It seemed like maybe people were just ranting because they were modded, but those logs are rather nasty. It's back to lurk mode over there for me, if only because I don't want to have to use my proxy. I will if she bans me, but it goes so slow...
When I said it was gross and all, I didn't mean that I disapproved of the message. She needs to stop treating people like garbage. I just meant that it was GROSS. I have a bird, and bird crap is extremely unpleasant.

EA can make a profit off the copyright they own because it is their product. Fans cannot make a profit because they hold no copyright over the product that does not belong to them. Enelar has put out a very good example, Elmo. Read it, read it again, read it out loud, and then stop pretending like you can't hear yourself talk.

Been lurking for a while and I had to say something about that. I think it's quite funny.



While I completely agree with what Enelar said, I just had to add that if they don't go to court, it's because there's absolutely no use -- and it's also the same for Maxis (or should I say, EA?).

Why would they go after creators making a few bucks? You probably are all aware that the process of going to court is just going to cost you so much that you might as well drop the charges. But really, why would they (EA) go after them (creators)? They don't have that much money. Moreover, it's just going to backfire. It's like some of those bands who decided to prosecute anyone who download their music. :roll:

It's the same process of doujinshi (sp?), if you're familiar with those. Or any fan-made stuff actually. They don't get prosecuted because it feeds the business itself.

And it's not like they (creators) are going to prosecute us for downloading and sharing their items. They can't really do anything. I mean... we could almost just make a IRC channel and share those files.

We just don't agree with their (creators) policy of not sharing those paid items. And they can't do much about it. It's all about morals, not about if it's legal or not.

Morals, in this case, are subjective.

Wait, what? I don't remember beating anyone up over some IP address. People should be using proxies anyway.

Well, after the thread where you posted the IP address (because you were sick and didnt realize what you were doing yeah right) I was not banned. Actually for quite awhile afterwards I was not banned. After Lyriclee got attacked by a lot of people(members of that forum and some that had nothing to do with Maty) I was banned. Further more, not only did you post her IP but you also included where she lived. After your so called apology, that clearly was done only to appease other members of your forum, you took the time to send pm's to everyone giving them her intials in the process. Act all innocent if you want but bottom lines is you are a Lyriclee asskisser. I can tell by the shit still on your lips. Over a month goes by and then all of sudden you start banning people?

Why are you referring to her as a member of Maty? She is a person and I am sure that who she is and what she does has not a damn thing to do with Maty. That is what is wrong with you people. You fail see the person. Greeksgal will now only be referred to as Lyriclee's sidekick

Oh wait I almost fogot. I am still a member of your forum with a different IP. I am also still a member at S2C. How great is that?

Oh you gotta be kidding, Carol.

I was banned from your site for talking about the bullshit bandwidth donation begging, and that was lifted after one day.  You not only posted my IP, but also my email address.  Which, I will tell you, had nothing to do with MATY and the people who came to post in that thread were not from MATY.  Or if they are members there, that's coincidence.

I never logged in again, and I rarely even looked at the site.  Sometimes I would look at the update threads, but that's about it.  Next time I logged in, after the thread at S2C with LyricLee calling me a thief based on absolutely no proof of anything whatsoever, I discovered I was permanantly banned with no reason given.  So if you try to tell me that's not based on the LyricLee nonsense at S2C, I will loudly call bullshit.  It wasn't until after that thread that I took a more active role here.  So I guess you could call her my inspiration. :D

Oh, but congratulations on managing not to download any files here.  That's more than your friends could say.

I can't stop laughing.

Ok i see how what i've said can be seen as hypocritical but what i'm saying is:

It's good that these files are uploaded here because now none of us have to pay.

But it's bad for those creators because they are losing thousands of customers.

If the files are uploaded here why would people go pay for a membership? Even if they think it's bad for the creators or whatever no one is going to pay instead of having them for free, that's money that could be used to buy necessities at home or whatever.

If i could afford to pay for all of these instead of downloading them here, i would. But i can't. So of coarse i'm going to have them for free. I didn't say the site should be shut down. I just wanted you guys to have some understanding of how the creators are probably feeling, simply playing the devil's advocate.



Well i think we've all concluded that Lyric is a nutcase. I just disagree that every single other moderator is brown nosing her. I agree that many of them are (god only knows why) but not all of them.

 



I've told you my reasons for downloading the files. I can't afford to pay for all of those memberships. As i'm sure many of us can't. I disagree with the situation as a lot of people do but if the files are there for free why on earth would i pay for them? Maybe if i was rich and could afford to pay for them just to back up my opinion i would.



And this is where i am still trying to come to a solid judgement. Clearly the End User Licence states that it shouldn't be used for commercial uses but i don't understand why the The Sims 2 official website would then link to pay sites. They can't have that much of a problem with it if they're linking to them right? There is a list of fansites where it states whether they are free or subscription and in many many cases i've seen staff there link to The Sims Resource. That's the only thing that makes me wonder rather than just accepting what seems to be fact.

If crappy Carla Niven can have members then trust that Peggy, Rose and the rest of them will continue to get customers. They might be the noobs, the self-righteous, or just the ones who haven't found PMBD yet. Either way Peggy and them aren't losing any sleep. Also, i'll never understand why people feel the need to defend paysites and paysite owners as if they need your help. Peggy doesn't give a fuck about you. It's obvious from her lack of customer service.

They are not losing customers by having their items on this site.  In most cases, I bet the people here who are downloading pay content would never have donated to the original site in the first place.  In fact, someone had to donate to the site to get this stuff in the first place, right?  So a place like Sublisims, who's the messiah of greedy paysite owners, got donations that probably no one else would ever have paid for.  Because I did.  And I can tell you, she can run her site for the next year or two at least with how much money I paid her.

I download here and still sub elsewhere. First I subbed because I didn't know about the other place and this one didn't exist. Now I sub so I can share more - firstly to the other place and now to here also. I like to contribute as much as I can because I can afford to get a few subs and share with those who cannot. I don't have a 'paysites are evil' standing, I simply don't care. I pay for them, I'll share them and since one good turn deserves another I take what I need.

There are a couple sites I'll probably ALWAYS have an ongoing 6 month sub to, some I'll never sub to and some I'll sub to now and again. It would be that way with or without this place. One good thing is that this site has introduced me to SO many other paysites I've NEVER heard of - so the odds of me throwing a one month sub at them at some point or picking up a donation pack are much higher now that I know they exist.

But of course, I'll share whatever I buy.

Ok. I'm not going to bother replying much more because the things i'm saying aren't being taken the way i've meant them to be taken. Like i said, i am simply playing the devil's advocate. But everyone seems to think that i loooooooooooove pay sites and bla bla bla so whatever.

I believe they were saying the mods/admins at insim are no better than the ones at MTS2/S2C. Nothing to do with here.

Actually, no.  I feel you could have presented your views more maturely.  Flames are bad for a pirate ship's sails, no?

And, um, isn't your stuff on TSR?

I concur. Overuse of twat abounded!

Yet again my explanation for this hasn't been read or understood. So, shut up.



How was i telling her what her opinion was? That's right i wasn't at all. I was just saying that if she thinks it's a waste to spend money on The Sims 2 and related things then don't spend the money. That has nothing to do with opinions. I can create my own content so i don't really need to rely on other people either, so without her i wouldn't be stuck with maxis crap you twat. Grow up.



Couldn't have said it better myself. =)

It was understood, It was not accepted.

Obviously you are not against it at all. You grabbed them and therefore you agree with us. You were just trying to make yourself feel better by telling us it was wrong. When that didnt work, you then agreed with us.

I am a prime example of this: I would never pay for fan-made game content. There are too many more important things I can buy, like, oh, I dunno, food? xD

Hey, Just enjoy your time here downloading  :wink:

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

and people like this are the number one reason I avoid that place =)

What the holy hell just happened in this thread?

It went off-topic. Considering it was never on-topic, this is not a surprise. Also, there's the general policy of moderators here not to do very much.

It happened so fast...

 :roll:

It takes only one simple thing to make a topic's topic change: a subject that pisses someone off more than the last one must be introduced. When folks get cheeky, cheeks get slapped. Then one starts to confuse which cheek where, and you just randomly slap stuff. If the random stuff you slap happens to be another person... well, just another subject to complain about.

It's quite fun, actually. You never know what you're going to get when you click on a topic. Reminds me of Christmas presents!

Christmas presents from my relatives are incredibly predictable. Every year, I get towels :P

I'm one of those people who enjoy getting socks, towels, blankets, etc. And office supplies. You can never have too much of that stuff.

ooooo i love getting blankets! i have way too many but see that problem is fixed cause we started drawing names recently.... :-D

I dont do Christmas at all. To me it is merely a waste of my time, energy and resources. I am not a scrooge either. I have no problem that everyone else celebrates Christmas I merely decided long ago enough was enough. I think it happened the year everyone told me that I had to celebrate and I had to have fun. I wont go into the details why that year was complete hell but let's just say that I wont be told what to celebrate and when I should be happy.

So turned yet another corner.

Maybe this will help.

Lyriclee is still a lying, two faced minion. :lol:

So LyricLee is a hypocrital beyotch.  I mean, we all knew that, but did you all know she sends stuff to people through MSN?

Yep, she's been doing it forever.

Lying thief she is.

I'm not a Scrooge. Scrooge was too prodigal for my tastes. I'm much more miserly than that.

I used to trade files with her on MSN...e-mail as well, back when we were still freinds, so yeah, that's true.

Why does this not surprise me?

The thing is, if you're doing it anyway just STFU about it and don't take some moral high ground you can't defend.

I mean, if the rules of her sites say 'discussion of this is not allowed' then fine, moderate said discussion. But don't act like mother theresa when you're the fucking bride of satan.

Well clearly it wasn't understood. Devil's advocate. Do you not understand what that means? Here.

One who argues against a cause or position, not as a committed opponent but simply for the sake of argument or to determine the validity of the cause or position.

Get it yet? I didn't change my opinion because i wasn't winning or whatever. I explained everything clearly the whole way along, some of you seem to not get it though because you still come out with the same shit.

And it truly is the Devil's Advocate.

I think you just like to argue, which is all well and good.

I'm bored of it now though.

I understand that you are feeling for the paysite creators but not loyally supporting paysites etc and that you even openly admit you download stuff here. What you claim is that you only want us to put ourselves in their shoes. You want us to understand their situation. Well, let's say I do understand it, understand it like how YOU do. Well, like you, I'm not rich, but if I am, I would gladly pay. So because I'm not rich, and I'm sharing your point, it's alright to download the goods here, just so long I feel the pang of guilt, right? Like you :D
But really, I don't get it. What are you trying to convey? What if EVERYONE did accept your view and apply to it? Which means everyone feels bad for the paysite creators, but it's alright if they  download from this "immoral" site because they still have some conscience? Sorry, but it does feel a tad hypocritical to me. What's the point of expressing an opinion when one contradicts it through one's actions? ;) Besides, there are many people who still pay for them, so I doubt this site could run the paysites out of business. Also, I'm sure most of us here know what's it like for the creators, but we choose not to make a big deal out of it. I'd rather save my empathy for more depressing situations like tsunami victims or abused animals than some people crying over "stolen" sim content.

Please don't take my opinion personally, for it's not intend to attack you. Like you as well, I'm arguing for the sake of arguing.
And no, I'm not mocking you.

Yes, I got it with your first post. You are talking out both sides of your ass. You have been from the first post. I could go through each one of them and point it out but why should I. You know what you are doing.

We can argue all day long but the bottom line is, your opinion means nothing.

Lyriclee has been sharing files for forever, she downloaded the goodies here and then claims a crock of shit. You downloaded the files here and then try and take a moral high ground. Seems you two are just alike. well there is one difference. Lyriclee is to chicken shit to admitt what she did or come here and defend herself.

Someone paid for these items in the first place and paid for the bandwidth used to download them. If I buy a shirt from target, it belongs to me after I leave the store. They can't tell me not to wear it to k-mart because it embarasses them, or to never, ever give the shirt to someone else, or not to make it pillowcase once I'm done wearing it. Once I paid, it belongs to me, and I'll do whatever I feel like with it. Ultimately, if I want to share the items I paid for fair and square, then I will and there's nothing you can do about it.

This site isn't difficult to find, and a great deal of paysite owners know about it I'm sure. The reason they don't say anything about it? 1) If they did, they would risk more customers coming over, and oh they don't want you do that. You need to pay for their precious bandwidth don't you know. 2) They wouldn't stop making stuff anyway, because for every 1 person who knows how to go around the gate, there are 10 people paying to go through it. They don't really need you go fight their battles for them.

To keep it on topic...uh...

LyricLee is trashy. There.

That's probably the nicest post anyone has posted back so far. Thankyou for understanding, you can have a different opinion or not but still argue the point just for the sake of it.

I'm not saying everyone has to feel guilty just to be allowed to download. I just thought the way things were went about were quite rude. I accept that Pescado is just a jerk or whatever he/she called themself but i don't like rudeness. Although, i will retaliate lol.



Me too.



Nope, i'm not talking out either side of my ass. I have certain opinions on things, like thinking Lyric is a bad moderator and should relieve herself from that position but other than that most of the things i've said have been just for the sake of arguing. Fair enough i may not have conveyed that those were my reasons for posting most of the time but hey that's what happens when you post at 3 or 4am. This is a discussion forum no?

The thing that bugs me most is that you can't discuss something with someone who is sharing a different side or opinion without being a rude pig. You turn every discussion into an argument and for no reason at all. You never knew me before, never had anything against me in the first place so you had no reason to do that. Last but not least every thing i say gets brought back to LyricLee when i really don't give a shit about the whole Lyric situation. So stop being rude and let it go.

Some people are just exceptionally jumpy and rabid.

All you have to do is say that getting free pay files is awesome.
Regardless of your moral belief.

I can see your post in a month where you will say "I cant believe I ever downloaded those files. This is so wrong blah blah blah."

We have all seen it before and we will see it again.

Well, I've been lurking long enough and feel the need to post. I've only been playing ts1 and ts2 for about 3 years but new to the sims community. Since April I've been very involved in S2C.  Over the summer, I've seen and heard things I couldn't believe, but Lyric takes the cake. I've known about the whole file-sharing thing for months, hell, who doesn't share their files? So for her to make such a beastly spectacle of herself like that was as entertaining as stomping on big blood-filled ticks. She crashed and burned in a beautiful; public way, like Evel Knievel, but less cool. Thanks for a place to openly talk about the shit that goes on and to share files.


Elmo-GET LAID HONEY!!! I know how you need it, you sex addict you. ;)

I've already said i like having the pay files for free. Why wouldn't i? It's one less thing i have to pay for. I'm not going to say that i can't believe i ever downloaded those files bla bla, i honestly can't see a reason for that.



 :shock:  :? Do i know you?

LyricLee is a Forum Nazi Twat.  Can't put it any simpler than that.  I have never cared for that wench.  

She is nothing more than a little bitch that throws tantrums when she doesn't get her way or doesn't like what someone says.  She stomps her feet, throws a tantrum and bans you.  

And she also bitches about this place, yet downloads the stuff herself. Alrighty then.  :roll:

You know, I was sympathetic to the paysite owners for a while..

then there was a thread about exchange bandits (blech) on S2C...

and it got hijacked into a discussion about paysites again.

Now, naturally, any good mod will come along and get the thread back on topic

But instead, Lyric comes along and whines about this site...

and Discordkitty adamently defends her...

and eventually, when the debate starts to go sour and people call Lyriclee names, the entire thread is DELETED, not locked, by Lyriclee, moments after I messaged Delphy saying that Lyriclee was calling various posters names and behaving like a total brat.

Nothing like burning the evidence, eh?

havn't decided if I'll actually download anything from here, but it's nice to have a place to vent.

:lol: I LOVE you guys! For making this wonderful site and for ragging on LyricLee Major KissAss stupid wench! Thank you so much for the goodies and the validation (She's gotten on my case too for NOTHING!)

I think the worst part is Delphy ACCEPTS her treatment of everyone, takes her side hands down, accepts what she says as utter truth--everyone voicing against her is worng. What crap that is...I hate that he does that.

Edited to cut slack where slack just might be deserved.

Give him time. He'll stab her in the back. He's done it with everyone else.  :P

I really dont understand what posesses this woman to keep digging her grave so deeply. I doubt she has any meaningful friends on the internet and in life. Makes me wonder what happened to her to make her this way... Power to the head? Or is she that way out in the real world working (if she even does) in a low respect environment. And get's a self-esteam boost by acting like queen-o-universe for a day.
 :? In a way I do feel quite sorry for her.
I dont hate her, I just want to say, "Stop, before you make yourself look like even more of an idiot!"

I guess you missed it, but in defense of other mods there - when she went off the deepend in the thread, the last day it was there, when BlueSoup and some others posted (and a bunch of people got banned for posting) NONE of the mods were there defending her even though they were clearly on the board at the time - not simsample, not boolpropped, not discordkitty, none of them. They let her dig and climb into her own grave. Infact I don't think any posters even defended her. She just went off on her rampage, frothing at the mouth with each calm, rational post that BlueSoup and others made.



Delphy stabs people in the back? Sounds like an interesting story.

Though really if he does, you'd think he'd have just let her stay "quit" during one of her MANY, MANY tantrums where she removes her admin abilities.

You are so right. I wanted to extend my thanks to LyricLee anyway. Because she opened her big mouth in that thread on s2c in the first place, I was able to just to to MATY and do a search. So in essence, she led me to the booty. THANK YOU LYRIC LEE.

Actually, I don't think she deleted the thread to "burn the evidence" so that Delphy couldn't read it.
As far as I know, when a MOD/ADMIN delete a thread/post in a VBullettin board the "ordinary users" can't see it anymore, but all the others mods/admins can.
I think LL basically deleted it because of the people attacking her.


*

And as for the "being a moderator is stressful" thing, I think this is a pretty weak excuse.
I understand that at times user can be whining, annoying, whatever. But, I believe one of the better things of internet is, you don't always have to be.. spontaneous.
When you feel you're getting tired or nasty, all you have to do is shout down your computer. Drink a cup of tea, smoke a cigarette, practice yoga, do whatever you want to cool down, and then you can eventually turn on your computer again.
So.. I really don't think that this is an excuse for LL behaviour. She surely has some reasons to act like she does, but I don't think this is one of them.

I was posting on the thread right before it was deleted, but I guess I was too dismayed by someone I thought sounded pretty sane and rational suddanly going off the deep end for no reason at all that I didn't notice they stopped defending her.

Honestly, if she had no idea what she was saying was wrong, she could have locked the thread. But she clearly didn't want anyone to see how vicious she'd been.

This woman is a mother? I feel sorry for her kids. My mom tended towards duplicity, being supermom one minute and a nasty wicked-tongued bitch the next, and it was hell living with her when she was off her meds (when she was on them she was asleep most of the day)

I feel bad for her kids as well. If she treats them like she treats MTS2 members that she disagrees with, well I don't even want to think about that. As a parent myself her behavior disgusts me. I hope when her kids are adults they tell her to kiss off.

I mentioned all this drama to my good friend who's a family law attorney. Although she admits copyright law isn't her area of expertise she laughed at the whole thing and sarcastically wished luck for those who might want to prosecute players who share files. In her understanding of copyright law the creators really don't have much of a legal leg to stand on. Even if the judge eventually ruled in their favor it would take years and all the donations & subscriptions aren't going to help cover the $500 per hour attorney fees and other court costs. But that would unlikely happen as my friend believes the copyright belongs to EA who have the big nasty legal team. These paysites are living on borrowed time. If EA ever decided to come down on them it would be ugly. I've seen Disney do it to artists who paint or draw Disney characters.

Every time LyricLee opens her mouth, curses at others making valid points and banning them when she can't win it just makes her look even more stupid and pathetic. It's like a tragic comedy.

All of the stuff I'm reading in here makes me glad I've never had a run-in with LyricLee personally. o_o

*coughKingdomHeartscough*

And in those cases the artists may or may not be profiting from their work (unless one counts e-cred as profit). Disney is royal bitch of a corporation and a pretty extreme example of this.

If/When EA does crack down on this, it'll be hysterical. Hopefully they don't decide to rape the entire modding community in one go because that would make baby Jesus cry.

did anyone notice that the community blocked the use of putting psmbd as their sig?

For them to go after the entire community would require them to repudiate their own EULA, since the rest of our activities are allowed under it.


They probably don't want to associate with this sort of thing, which isn't unreasonable. Some people have bitchier, more trigger-happy hosting providers that are more easily intimidated by legalese.

It seems to be censored on the whole site not just sigs

more and more poeple come out each day.

i wounder if i will ever come out.

well i will half comeout, i am sandboxpuppet on the sims2community.
but i am someone else all over teh community like at mts2 and matty.

Yeah, Disney is nailing people overseas who have KH fansites but I see a million pedo-pictures of KH characters on dA and y! so obviously they suck and are not awesome in defending their copyright.

You could snekily link to this single post at InSim intead:

http://www.insimenator.net/showpost.php?p=349680&postcount=81

:evil:

I think it's still too small  :P

HOORAY!

Also, wow, I just finished reading the Lyric dramafest, posted a few pages back...I've never really gone to S2C, not so much the chatty type, I did not realise, until reading that, quite what a psychopath the woman is...:o. Eyes = Opened to that.

She reminds me of a serial admin I knew, in her late 20's, on a board which was mostly populated by teenagers, and thus had to have a 'family' atmosphere, no-one was allowed to be mean, swearing and general naughtiness and hostility was strictly prohibited...UNLESS someone had something to say about this one admin. Then she would fucking kick off, baring all the darkness of her soul, for example, a friend of mine, a 14-year-old girl wasn't acting in a way this admin felt was 'age appropriate', when my friend objected, and tried to put across her view, of what she felt was appropriate for her age, this admin told her that, in that case, she hoped my friend got raped, to show her the consequences of not acting appropriate for her age. My friend then made a rather hotheaded, rude comment to the admin, off the board, found herself banned, and all these other members, who had formerly adored her, and conducted themselves rather as her friends, turned on her, leapt to the admin's side, and congratulated themselves on getting rid of my friend, and the admin's smart actions and soothing her poor hurt (I'M BIPOLAR LIEK OMG PITYME!!11) feelings. It was at that point, myself, and the few remaining people with any sense, quit that board, which proceeded to implode, and become entirely shite...
The only reason the oh-so-loved admin, who, incidentally, everyone loved badmouthing, off the board, was still flushed with power, was because she was showbiz pals with the site owner, and that was the only reason she was allowed to continue the way she was, with foolish little brown-nosers all around her...

Anyway, that rant/story/greek choral piece was rather OT, except that...anywhere big, you get lame-ass psycho bitch type people in charge, whose brains are so swelled with their tiny bit of POWAAAAH in their sad little lives (replete with a band of their very own sycophants), that they become a law unto themselves, and their own tiny little opinions become the whole wide world to them, no matter how misguided and hypocritical they may be, because the place where they roost is so much more fun than their real lives, where they have no real control and um.....yeah...

LyricLee aparrently sucks, and is a hypocritical, moodswinging bitch, but there are thousands out there, just like her. >.<

And yes, HOORAY for super super subtle posts which link to a world of great!!! :D

well it seems someone form the community comes here cause i just got banned there today.

and i love how they don't tell u why u got banned.

Isnt that some shit. Of course they will come here and say that you must have done something wrong. We know they will be lying. I have decided that anyone that bans me can be repaid because I will in turn upload all of their items to the exchange. Of course I will give them full credit for the objects, complete with web addy and my own opinion of their site.

but the thing that pisses me off is that i did not get an explanaton for why i got banned.

i have to wait until some date to find out the reason why.

It's nice when your banned for something that has nothing to do with your actions and behaviour on the forum, isn't it?

They don't need a reason. They're an infantile little clique that does whatever the hell they want. I guess they think they have some kind of power because they can ban people on an internet board. :roll:

Worse yet, S2C is now a semi-paysite, but with nothing plunder-able:



Wow...do for only $8 a month I can waste even more of their overloaded sites space with my huge PM box limit, get that profile image that lots of free sites have...and a custom title (That loads of free sites have as well) which I can only change *once*? boy, I can hardly resist! I think we've found the worst paysite of them all, and it has nothing to plunder! Honestly, does she do it just to mock!

Ha ha ha!  That's about accurate.

lol
i know now why would someone pay for the community?
To keep LyricLee  alive of course.


and to LyricLee since i know you are here, u did not stop me form going to the community, i have another account there as well.

They'll pay for custom titles and profile pics of course!  My site has them for free, but you know it's totally better when you pay!!!!11

That's the thing, the dumbass will ban your account but not your IP. How hard is it to make a new account

IP bans aren't that hard to evade either *walks away whistling*

not at all, but proxies can be annoying.

You don't even need a proxy :)  I can switch between about 5 or 6 IP addresses in my own home without using one...many more if I leave home.

A proxy is a very handy tool. I like mine muchly. Only problem is, China IPs are SO FREAKING SLOW. Yet the China ones are the only ones that work for me. And I'm very curious as to whether LyricLee even knows about IP addresses or not, because it doesn't seem like she does. I hope she stays hidden in that corner.


Dial-up? Special plan allowing several LAN hookups? Wireless? Magical IP switching technique? I've wondered for a while if wireless connects you to a different IP address every time it locks to a signal in the same place, or if your IP is set and stays.

Wireless.  There is one network I am supposed to be on...but there are several around me (not mine) that are unsecured and I can easily get onto if I need a quick IP change.  But I prefer my usual network anyhow...It's the fast one :D

snadra, word of advice: don't post your username on here. I'm guessing that was pretty easy for MTS2 to find you. Lots of big site owners are on the prowl here and watching. I would not treat PMBD as a place to "come out" - there is already another site where you can do this, PMBD is too public for that.

Oh, that donation thing just got worse...hemi2k come on and basically cried foul. Next came the usual unflinching, scathing retort from Lyric, without a care for the rules of the forum...I didn't get a screenie of the original post before it got deleted, but then hemi2k quoted it...so here it is.....

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g122/onedayspecial/LyricMeltdown.jpg)

The thread itself, and Delphy's quote of the costs.
http://forums.sims2community.com/showthread.php?p=648253#post648253

That's all I have, but I love the exaggeratation of the costs.

Hey anyone notice her name isn't red like an admin anymore

PirateBooty you're right, she's not!!

Here's a screenie of her profile at S2C...notice the lack of redness...

(http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/4741/new2ry2.jpg)

and here's her MTS2 profile...

(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4245/new4sh9.jpg)

:shock:

Its ok i came out here, cause i have another name on teh community as well, so they are not hurting me by banning me.

We will see how long her being removed from staff lasts...

Last time it was like, 3 days.

So this has happened before? Not entirely surprised!

Lets take bets!

I call 5 days.

I know I've said all e-drama is the same, but this sounds so eerily familiar I wonder if I don't know you from that board. :lol: Then again, I have a knack for inciting revolutions and your description of the destruction of this place doesn't QUITE match up to the degree of damage done during a previous exploit, but then that was a joint venture anyway. :lol:

I'll just ask this: was this board video game-related?

I heard that she likes to change her status to mess with people and take a break.  :roll:

My bet's on a week. Any longer than that and her influence might start to fade. Best get back to scaring those chillins before they feel comfortable enough to play. :lol:

Heeheehee. PSMBD has spies and traitors? That's so cute! I want to catch one and name it Fluffy.

I didn't know that... :twisted: I'll put it in my sig now. I hate it where they try to tell you what to do with YOUR OWN computer. As long as it's PG rated it should be okay...at least that's what i read when i joined...
Oh and...



I responded in that thread. I told her how I felt. WITH psmbd in my siggie! :D

Nah, twasn't, twas a far geekier, RP-based board...*hides face in shame*....but I have also caused a similar thing happen at a (at the time) prominant Sims 1 board too, back in the swirling mists of time *looks round shiftily*...VIVE LA REVOLUTION!!!

I am now quite certain I know who you are.  Lets hope they don't think they know also and ban you next.

I responded in that thread. I told her how I felt. WITH psmbd in my siggie! :D[/quote]

Please go check your pm's.

Pms here or there?

Quick question...could they say filesharing is wrong if you posted Lyrics downloads form this site on S2C? I don't have the balls to do it...But i'm sure one of you( my heros) do!

I'LL GIVE YOU A COOKIE...

I really just want to see what she'd say. Before deleting the thread....

Words cannot describe how satisfying that would likely be.
I think I'd have a mental orgasm if someone did that.

I already did that.  She claimed she was working with paysite owners on trying to bury this site by using up bandwidth and they all had a set time and day to do that.

Cherrypicking files and looking at pictures first and spreading it out over a few days doesn't really make that clear, does it?

I've said it before and I'll say it again.  I think it is truly funny and fitting that Delphy and brown nosers now lament about the cost of running the site.  When in fact, back in the day, he and said brown nosers bitched about Steve's claim that running TSR was costly.  

I guess Steve wasn't too far off base or Delphy and company are completely and totally full of shit.  :lol:

I noticed Lyric changed her avatar yet again and now she carries the description "Mad poster."  How appropriate!  And I guess we can take that both ways:
"mad"--as in angry--I'm sure
"mad:--as in "as a hatter"--no question!

or King Lear mad.  :?

Did she get "mad" and leave?  Out of curiosity I checked her downloads and there are only seven listed and none have download links.  

Her sig used to say soomething to the effect that "see the rest of my creations at SimsVault".  Now it says "see my creations ar SimsVault."

Another one of those "I'll take my toys and play somewhere else" mentalities.  Of course, with her items gone, the quality at MTS2 has improved!

If we're lucky she took her whiny ass on and did leave.  I don't think we'll be that lucky though.

She has nothing worth a damn to offer so her taking her stuff down matters not.  :lol:

why the hell did exenem (or how ever u spell it) hire her.

her stuff is shit.

This time I think it might be safe to sing the following song

Ding Dong! The Witch is dead. Which old Witch? The Wicked Witch!
Ding Dong! The Wicked Witch is dead.
Wake up - sleepy head, rub your eyes, get out of bed.
Wake up, the Wicked Witch is dead. She's gone where the goblins go,
Below - below - below. Yo-ho, let's open up and sing and ring the bells out.
Ding Dong' the merry-oh, sing it high, sing it low.

I believe the correct spelling is Enema. :P

her stuff isnt actually that bad. i use her lost floors and walls all the time and her recolors of the pet stuff is pretty good. (don't take this as me defending her cause i'm not) :D

Huh, that's unusual. I halfway expected her to throw a huge self-righteous hissy over being de-admined. Or perhaps she willingly left. Fuck knows.

Either way, lulz-a-plenty.

Alas, I agree, I have her lost walls and floors in my game and use them all the time....saying that, she didn't make those, she just found them...

But anyways, yes, hooray!! Someone somewhere saw sense, be it her or other sources....:D

LyricLee recently removed all her downloads on MTS2.

Ooh, she quietly went MILITANT. I see On Sims Vault, she's posting a few bits for her oldie oldie stuff for free, but other than that....

Dare I ask what prompted this new development with Miss Lyric?

Well, I don't see any public visits from the dramallama on S2C, MTS2, or Sims Vault...

She also withdrew? from a contest she was in Miss Evil. HAHA  Guess she's not Evil enough. I think she's gone for good at S2C.  :D

Hmm.... interesting developments. I wonder what's going on in her strange mind? o_O

Well, if she's going to those lengths, then she must have either quit for good or been fired.

She's probably just trying to be on the down low for a while.
Or trying to get attention by making people wonder.
She'll be back.
And then the drama will start over again.

Eh. That must have shipped with the board software. You don't think *I* wrote that, did you? I'll make up something more amusing once I find it.

UPDATE: The relevant changes have been performed. Henceforth to remain on the board, you must agree that today is a good day for cheese. And also be able to convincingly pretend to be older than 12.

Wow, I can JUST imagine Pescado worrying about people following rules like that....

And EVERY DAY is a good day for cheese!!!  :D

There is no such thing as a bad day for cheese.

In my world, cheese is an independent food group.

Well, I'd edit her sims2wiki article to reflect what we've all learned here, but I'm horrendously lazy and not feeling up to my normal standards of asshattery.

She has a Sims2Wiki article? :o

http://www.sims2wiki.info/LyricLee haha you can't see me

There's like... nothing there. Have at it.

I'm amused by the lack of anything! Alas, I daren't edit it, even though almost ALL the info found there is entirely out of date....

Also, my writing's smaller, HA!!

OH GOD SO TEMPTING.

Just because I know it wouldn't be seen for a good while.

DOOO EEEEEETTTT....

(Tastefully, of course....)

Come now, someone who has warrented 21 pages of discussion here, deserves more than just two lines of out of date text...

*attempts to cover horns*

Why do Lyric and Delphy get their own pages but daysies doesn't?  She's an admin too.

i guess she just hasn't done it. they do that themselves i believe

apparently Lyric no longer has any kind of name under her screen name..... the "Mad Poster" thing is gone completely! lol wonder if she'll dissapear! ooooo wouldn't that be nice?

edit: nevermind my computer hates me! lol

Delphy did his own...it's been edited 5 times.  Lyric's was done by someone else.  (Superfly)

Is poofta kind of like poofter?

what is a POOFTA exactly? is it a new way to call a hoe a hoe?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Poofta

1.  a variation of the english slang poof, meaning a homosexual. Specifically a poofta is a thin, small framed gay male, the equivalent in english is "twink"
2.  A fagget or homosexual male who is so gay it's never questioned whether or not he is a poofta.
3.  The term poofta is also known as "poop dick". This term originates from the copious amounts of "poop" that can be found on the lucky recipients "dick" after the act of "love making" has taken place.

If that's what was meant by the word, I am not sure why that particular word was used, there are much better words for her lol

Poop dick?

Anal sex?

Shitting dick nipples?

Reference to the wondermous fan fic with incestual skullfucking with the Malfoys?

So many things come to mind.  Maybe I do need to stop looking at weird things.

Lol if this is still a "Message to LyricLee" thread, I have a message for you bitch...

I remember when I joined the S2C community and I was always wondering why people kissed your ass... It was because people were afraid to get on your pms-y psychotic side. I was at first, but after a while I got sick and tired of you and your nazi moderator loser friends. I vented about it and got banned. lol I'm there with another name bitch and i'm so glad to know you finally got what you deserved. I hope you are lonely in your filthy little hole in cyberspace, cause i know that in real life you're some just another fat pimple-faced loser on a computer.

And in words of my good friend Piccolo (who you also banned while in one of your psycho temper tantrums) you do have a monkey face! And for all of those losers who actually thought you are pretty... lol you guys need to get some quick and get your meds checked

Oh and the self-righteousness about PMBD... lol shove that up your nearest body orifice!

Thanks PMBD for this great way to vent. and keep the booty comming!

So I uh take it your not a fan of Lyric huh?  :wink:

Does anyone else see the irony of translating english slang into "english"? Ohhh urbandictionary.

The sad thing is, before Lyric Lee joined MTS2 staff, it wasn't a really bad place.  As soon as she joined, the whole feel of the place changed to shit.  As far as I'm concerned, she destroyed that place.  If she ever does read this, Lyric, I hope you rot in hell.  I hope every scummy thing you've done on there comes back at you a thousand fold.  What you do in cyberspace does have consequences just as much as what you do in real life.  And one day, you will have to pay for what you have done.  You might not think so now, but there will come a time when you will see I am right.

My agnostic self hopes karma is real.

I myself never had any run-ins with Lyric Lee, but what really gave me a good giggle was when she posted her pic and everyone was raving about how hot she is.  Just what the fuck were they looking at anyway?  She posted a picture of herself from an angle where all you could see were her goddamn tits.  Okay, so she has big tits....who fuckin cares.  It just reminds me of that old Monks song, "Nice Legs, Shame About Your Face".  Anywhoo, she looks like a nasty, dirty housewife who sits at her computer all day while her kids run amok.  Okay, I'm done now..and I feel MUCH better.

I hope to heavens somebody saved that gem of a photo.

Somebody did, right?

Damn.

There goes my latest photoshop fodder.

I have tits too. Does that make me hot?

yes it does, cough, most men are blinded by 'em boobies.  i never cared for those walking sticks they call models.  i watched paris' video and it sucked because it looked like i was watching two men going at it.  but if it's lyric, i'll run away and i don't care if she has the best tits.

btw, anyone who has her photo, post iiiiittttt!!!

How could I miss Lyric posting her pic?

*makes a mental note to make pics of her tits*

LyricLee's picture is floating around in the Reflex forum somewhere. Also I believe it was also posted in her hate thread at SFV.

Google is your friend
(http://www.sims2wiki.info/images/d/db/IMme1.jpg)(http://myspace-072.vo.llnwd.net/00241/27/06/241936072_s.jpg)(http://myspace-463.vo.llnwd.net/00241/36/47/241937463_s.jpg)

She looks like a cheap, low-budget prostitute.

Is that why you wanted to chat with her so bad?  On a budget.

wow forgot how fat she was....  :lol:

Hmmm. (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Fat_girl_angle_shot)

:!:  :lol:

lol of course not! She is fat, that's why her boobs are so big... gravity will take a toll on them though, lets see if people kiss her ass in 10 yrs or so.

and well IMPO being a housewife isn't a bad thing... it becomes a bad thing when all you do is sit at your computer and your kids need you.

I remember that first pic from the old S2C member album. lol my "friend" Piccolo is actually my boyfriend in real life. when I showed him her pic he was like "WTF? that's who these guys are calling sexy? She looks like a hairless gorila on steroids with a fetish for dark makeup!"

Lol and naturally, being the oppinionated guy he is, he registered and posted that, later got a warning from discordkitty, continued bugging the mods over there an eventually got us banned... lol haven't those people ever heard of non-static IPs?

thats how i take all my pics  :lol:

Wickedone, are you lyriclee?

JM can tell us....

lmao oh god no
i think thats the worst thing anybodys ever called me  :lol:

i was just saying that i try to take my pics like that to hide ya know, the warts, the big nose, and the scaly green skin :)

Oh. My. Lord.

Just say no to bad makeup and attempted come hither glances.

On the upside, I feel much better about myself. Hell, I am a farking supermodel in comparison!

she's ugly. plain and simple. and lame. and stupid. and fat. she sucks at life!

Teeheehee...I thought she looked like a dirty crackhead when I saw the pictures on S2C.  No offense to those housewives out there-it's not an easy job.  She just looks fat, sweaty and dirty and her sweater cows are nasty too no matter how big they are.

:D  Had to ask. Sorry to insult you  :D

Haha really Imma join the club. Looking at a lyriclee pic is a self esteem boost anyday!

well im glad the pics are helping you guys feel better lol
google didn't have bigger versions of those pictures in their cache but I'm guessing the threads surelyfunke mentioned earlier have "better" ones

and sickpuppy since i walked into that one with my comment i cant entirely blame you....i couldnt stop laughing when i saw that you thought i was her :lol:

Am I the only one tired of seeing people insult LyricLee's looks when they've got more than enough ammunition to insult her behaviors and actions? People, come on. Calling her ugly, fat and other 'lovely' terms like that makes her look more like an actual victim of online bullying. Can't we just stick to her attitude and leave the physicalities out of it?

OMG Denimjo don't get your panties in a twist, we're having fun *looks at deminjo with shifty eyes* unless you're a lyric supporter :lol: that would just make me laugh at you.

We all know she's a notorious self-righteous *snort* lying wannabe sim nazi who suffers from all-month psychotic pms spasms and used to get her ass kissed by wannabes and weak followers. We all know that she's got some serious attitude issues and in real life is probably on the grapefruit diet that doesn't work... meaning a sorry ass pimply loser that looks like a cheap wannabe goth hooker

So yeah, lighten up!

*is a little distrubed by that 'hmm' link*

I take pictures at odd angles but I certianly am not fat.  Perhaps it's simply a camwhore thing?  Even if LyricLee clearly displays those angles.  Either way, I'm more disgusted by her actions than I am by her looks.

Well, about those angles...for me the always upward angle was one of the natural ones for holding a camera at arms length...Because if you angle it properly, you can make it so your arm doesn't show at all.

I am a bit heavy, but nothing *near* what is shown in the example pics.

Hey, you post your ugly mug, and I can insult you, too.

I merely provided the requested pictures I don't recall saying anything about her appearance
I, for once, am innocent.
People weren't just saying she was fat or ugly, they were commenting on her overusage of bright blue eyeshadow and her...what did they say...come hither glances that failed? (which I think meant that they thought it was funny she dolled herself up and tried to look sexy for the pics) in addition to her choice of camera angles.

I think its worse to be ugly on the inside than ugly on the outside...so thats why I didnt comment on her appearance...

As for the cam angle...if it's a digicam or a regular camera i could understand it being "natural" to have your arm slightly elevated to take a pic of yourself and of course to look up at it....but if you are using a camera that is normally plugged into your pc such as a webcam, it should be stationary so there is no need for the angle unless your monitor is up way above your head...and was LovelyLies implying she herself is a camwhore or did i misread that?

I'm not getting the insults to what she looks like either.  What does that have to do with the type of person she is?  I'm not in grade school and can find substantial reasons to not like someone.  Calling someone fat or ugly is something my 13 year old does.  She is a bitch because of her attitude and the way she treats people, not because she weighs more or looks a certain way.

But maybe that's just me.

You know, it's normal reaction, I believe; if a person is nice, or somehow liked in a community, he/she could be the ugliest piece of crap on the planet, but nobody would say a word about it.

Besides, if someone hates you, any single bit of information about you will became ground for insults. Nothing really nasty or evil, to me, it's a normal reaction scheme.

I insult any ugly person that posts their picture on the Internet. They deserve it. Posting your picture on the Internet is posting it for people to comment on. If you post your picture on the Internet and you are UGLY, I am going to say so!

or i print their photos and use it for darts.  best replacement for your dartboard.  she does remind me of a cheap prostitute, and her boobies look like they where propped up with some sofa chair. i couldn't tell if they're really that high, it looks like she was being strangled by her mounds.  i don't have anything against fat women, in fact i think lyric is just curvaceous. on the other hand, i sharpen my pencils with a knife, so i'm the type of guy who likes his girl with a decent amount of flesh.  any guy who likes walking sticks is gay, imo.

She only looks that way because of the angle. If it weren't for the angle shot, she wouldn't even look the good kind of meaty, she'd just be a flat out whale. :P

I really like this one I saw on Encyclopedia Dramatica:

(http://pr0n.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/b/b0/Myspace.gif)

Damn I don't even remember that.

but yes, at least some of us are well aware of non-static IPs :D

I'd like to clarify that I don't give a damn about her appearance, the link was because I thought the photos smacked of trying to be sexy and using the techniques in the link and under  this (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Internet_disease). I thought it was a bit pathetic. I'm certainly no better looking than Lyric so I'm not going to mock her looks, just her attempt to look attractive, since it's a technique that never convinces anyone with half a brain. And I think Pescado is right, if you put pictures on the internet for people to look at, you should expect honesty. If you act like a crazy bitch on the internet as well, you're going to get honesty mixed with a healthy dose of malice.

If she even posted real pics of herself to begin with.  You can put pics up of anyone and claim it's you.  Doesn't mean it is.  For all we know, she's really six hundred pounds with a beard and a mustache  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  Those could be pics of someone she/he knows in real life, or anyone.  This is the internet, fraud is rampant.  I've been to forums where everyone just happens to look like they just stepped out of a Hollywood cafe.  Yeah, right.

It's true that looks mean nothing.  It's what you do that counts.  And her personality and actions are such shit that I would still want her dead whether she looked like a movie star or the bearded fat lady from a circus.  Death is too good for her.  I think if she was screaming in pain permanently that might make me feel better.

Want her dead or tortured for eternity? Isn't that, um, kind of a lot for some crazy broad on the internet? Does she really affect you that much, especially now that she's no longer a mod at MTS2?

Probably. Me, I go with indifference tempered by distaste. If something happens, I hope it's amusing. Otherwise, meh.

I have my reasons.  Perhaps I'll get my wish.  :twisted:

It is far worse to be ugly on that inside than the out.  Agreed.

And no, I'm not a camwhore.  If I were I woulda taken the opportunity to post pictures of my bewbz of course.  I merely know a lot of camwhores and the things they do for attention and the fact that those angles are either a)good for hiding flaws[such as my overpuffy cheeks] or b)simply good looking artistically speaking.  Sticking someone dead center in the middle of a frame with a "come hither" look makes them look like their posing for a mug shot or you know, just a dumb woman who wears too much blue eyeshadow trying to look sexy.

LyricLee needs her own entry at encyclopediadramatica

Wow. She looks like the product of an affair between Dr. Frank N. Furter and this thing (http://hammeroftruth.com/images/articles/fat.jpg).

Why I don't like people insulting her looks is when you talk Lyric being ugly or fat with such meaness then it insults everyone that looks like her or worse.  I'm sorry, but Lyric isn't that ugly.  She is just a normal looking person.  I think the media has really warped everyone's perception of what is ugly.  When we stick to talking about the fact that Lyric is an over-reactive drama queen that likes attention from adoring internet fans then we don't insult every woman here that may have a plain face and weigh over 130.  

Mat

Well, she has poor makeup choices, you must admit that...;)

Thing is, it's a ruthless bunch of people you got here. Pirates. We're bloodthirsty. Find something, as a group, you don't like about a person, and all pick at it. Frankly, if OpenLegsJack's perversions, HChangeri's mental illness, Pegy and Rose's Chineseness, and Delphy's....um....indiscretions...are up for poking, LyricLee's (who is arguably one of the most odious of the bunch, with her repeated unpleasantness) looks are equally not really worthy of being taboo...

Well I understand the fact that everyone here hates her and so will pick on any and everything about her.  In fact I have a feeling that her odious personality and the fact that she has wronged a lot of people here are a lot of the reason that everyone thinks she is so ugly even though she is just a normal looking person.  And I didn't say not to insult her looks, it's just that when you say things like she's so fat and ugly how could anyone think she is good-looking you are really insulting a lot of people, because let's face it, most people are not gorgeous and do not have awesome bodies.

Mat

Oh, I quite agree, just saying, this isn't the kind of place where people hold back, it's all or nothing. :)

Eh, I know that whole "internal beauty is better than external beauty" thing is true and all, but honestly, I'll take any shot at her I can get. Even cheap ones. Since when have pirates gone for the classier behaviour, anyway? She's a stupid, overrated attention whore who's ripped off a lot of us, and I think she's fugly. Since we're on the topic of things we dislike about her, I might as well go ahead and chuck that one in.

No holding back sounds about right.

I guess I should have made my first post a little clearer.  I realize that most people aren't exactly "model" gorgeous or thin (as in the case of Lyric Lee) but my actual point was the fact that all those ass-kissers over at S2C were making out like she was the second coming of christ and Cindy Crawford all rolled into one.  I'm sorry but if they had said something along the lines of "Oh Lyric that's a very nice pic" or "Nice to see what you finally look like", I wouldn't feel like hurling.  Add that to the fact that she was trying to look..um...sexy(?), it's just kinda shows you how much ass-lickery goes on over there.

Lol something i like about this forum is that we can say stuff that's really on our mind and not sugar coat stuff. I mean come on, I personally am a ok looking girl that weighs over 130 lbs... that doesn't mean I'm a camwhore with a bad attitude and bad sense of ethics and morale.

We're all pirates here, and I agree with my fellow pirates... verbally tearing Lyriclee to bits is fun! And anyone who doesn't agree... walk the plank! :lol: lol

We all know how despicable she is, inside and out, why not have fun while we're at it.

OMG jesse, when I read that thread on OpenLegsJack, it nearly succeeded in making me loose my lunch... lol try explaining to your boss why all of the sudden you've turned a sickening shade of green   :shock:   :!: not that I have anything against gay people (au contraire, one of my best friends is gay, but he's not giving his ass away for underwear for chrissake!)

lol back on track... we're all here to verbally destroy lyriclee and we know you're reading!

Mat Cauthon, you can't really expect much more out of the stupid sheeple.

Better yet, sheeple that think they be AAARRRR pirates! I hear it's an incurable disease.

i'm fucking guilty.

I don't hate Lyriclee. And I feel sorry for Jack, because his life sucks very much.

Lyric looks like any other average american. No offence to average americans though.

Ugly people should not take pictures of themselves to post on the Internet unless they want to be called on it.

Oh and Lyric's gonna reupload her stuff to MTS2. Somebody posted a hair request in WCIF thread. And Lyriclee told her she's gonna reupload her stuff.

Why did she bother taking it down in the first place?  :roll:

Same reason why anyone else would take down their stuff/hold it hostage--so people will beg and whine for it back, so they can feel special and wanted.

Tis a tried and tested drama whore technique...WITHHOLDING.

I'm learning so much new stuff every day. PMBD is very educational.

Haha I hope they reject her shit when she tries to reupload it.

i never thought i'd call any girl this but it's true with her and that retail sim chic: drama whores.

I dug up the post she made on S2C - I'm betting she'll upload it to exnems site, not MTS2.

well the point is to not only get people to beg her to reupload to mts2 and tell her how much they love her and miss her, but also to entice them to register at exnems site....thats what she used to do when she was uploading at mts2 anyways, telling everyone to go to exnem's to get everything else, answering help/request threads by pointing people there (even if it made no sense for them to go there) blah blah blah
i doubt they would reject her uploads, and if they did she'd probably start going on another tirade about HOW DARE THEY!!!!....and how fucking evil mts2 and anybody who mentions it gets banned...anybody who posts anything nice over there gets banned....anybody who dare upload at mts2 instead of uploading there gets banned..."off with their heads"
blah blah blah...same bullshit new location

Is it wrong to wish her computer would explode in her face and she'd never be online again?

*strokes chin thoughtfully*

Nah, seems perfectly reasonable to me.

He he...I find this funny because when I was staff there her current computer literally did explode (Not entirely...more like a mini-explosion with sparks and stuff) nothing at all like the Dell Laptop Explosion:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/BlackKittieKat13/15380.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/BlackKittieKat13/dellmelt5.jpg)

Anyhow, she was offline for several days until she replaced it...and very freaked out....Well, I find your comment humorous because now I'm picturing her PC exploding due to some person (or people) wishing it would happen :P

*screws eyes shut and wishes hard*

*crosses fingers, arms, legs, and toes*

It may be a primary school rumour, but I think crossing multiple things negates the original finger crossing luck-hope...

Shit. D:

I have a Jack Thompson Sim, now I need a Lyriclee Sim complete with rugburns to make a happy family.
My chav death camp has flexible admittance rules.

I dont think i could handle a lyriclee sim? to bitchy, might crash the game.

On the other hand it would be fun to torment her.

Holy cow! I'm never using a lappy again.

Just stay off from any Sony gadgets for the mo.  Even their digicams were recalled because of reported glitches.  I read somewhere their laptops are lousy too with the duration factor.  PS3s have a tendency to overheat too.
I'll be sticking with my PS2 for a couple more years.  I hope they find a way around the issue of PS3, seriously 3 hours of playing time before it overheats?  And I saved up for nothing?

What? PS3 isn't hardcore-gaming compatible? D:

$600 for that? That's just pure, unadulterated crazy.

The PS3 does not work. Don't get it. It's perpetually frozen in our store, and one of them caught fire in another store (not BFBVFS, but sparks and a little flame), AND we got an e-mail from corporate instructing us on how to deal with the many returns we expect. It's worse than the first run of 360s.

Sony had to recall laptops because some battery they made exploded, too.

Yeah they're awful - they tend to run really hot on one side. we only got 3 of them in I think, but from everyone that's coming in with one they all complain about the heat issue.

not something you'd want to tuck inside an entertainment unit

I wasn't planning on getting one until the price dropped anyway, but thanks for the heads-up.

Maybe in 3 years or so they'll have fixed it.... but knowing Sony, they won't.

not necessarily
i took down my stuff from there about 18 months ago because the lady (?) in question replied very rudely to a polite post i made concerning uploads of lots.
it wasn't the first time she had pissed me off but it was a straw ...camels etc etc
she followed this up with an arselicking PM...:roll:

recently i started uploading again but she has become a thorn in my side once more....at least i think its her, i have no proof.... and i guess i will take it all off and leave quietly. sometimes enough is just enough

can't be her... shes not a mod there anymore. what is it that you are uploading? i might be able to tell you who is in charge of that area.... if its houses i know its nengi65.

I've been trying to get those batteries, too. I want some exploding batteries!

it's nengi and some others....can't be bothered to look right now
but the last one i uploaded was a few weeks ago and i'm not sure when LL stopped being a mod

and as for sony i have got one of their monitors.....don't fancy that sploding in my face  :cry:
it misbehaves but to be fair its probably the graphics card at fault

bout a month and a half as far as i know... i may be off but its been at least that long

You'd be wrong :P

well someone was giving me grief about a certain item of custom content i used
as it turned out i "won" the day but i really can't be arsed to upload any more houses. it's not like i am a mega architect anyway. i just enjoy sharing the houses i enjoy playing myself and uploaded there because it's free to do so and free for others to download

anyhoo.... i. ain't. bovvered (credit: Catherine Tate)

put them on the exchange, you can load them with CC there :D

jeez i haven't been there in about 3 years unless it was via link through retardoland, and y the time i get to it the threads usually been removed :lol:
i'll give it a miss thanks

incidentally the cc i use in my lots is stuff that the creators give permission for use on

Anyone seen this yet - I went to look and see how their forum was - to see if there were any rants by exnem about rude people, etc. and found this http://exnemsims.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1084&page=2

Christ on a cracker- I hate it when picture threads catch me off guard.

is nengi still in charge of houses?

fat chick angles and flash blowout.. what are you trying to hide??

Everything?

Why is her face whitened out? she looks dead. Michael Jackson cosplay?

:lol:
Her picture killed the thread.

lol, here ya go:
 http://www.freefileupload.net/file.php?file=files/151206/1166199253/lyricleesim.package

I even uploaded a screenshot so you could see exactly what you're getting:

http://www.freefileupload.net/file.php?file=files/151206/1166199392/lyricleesim.png

Although there are no deceptive "fat chick angles" in Bodyshop. Too bad.

(If you actually want to use this horror, put the downloaded package in your saved sims folder.)

Ugly chick trick.  makes acne/blemishes poc marks go bye bye... under the guise of being "artistic"  
But we all knew by her CC that she clearly has no concept of how to use photoshop discreetly.

cleveralias did you just make that one? does she come with rugburns? lol
I couldve sworn there was already a Lyric sim up for download somewhere...mts2 maybe?
And as for the brightening thing, its part of the whole deal, she always tries to make her eyes blue in her pics (because she wishes she had blue eyes--her words not mine) and ends up doing weird things to the pics and calling it "artistic" but it may be what Dour said :)
she did give us all a warning though...maybe it should have been bigger and bold? lol

She fakeblues her eyes? That's just.........really weird.

You can edit out acne and scars and stuff without completely whiting out your face.  I've done it to my friends pics before and you could still see their fatures...and the colours were the same.

Yes, but that takes "talent".

Well, it seems there's 168 of you torturing Lyric in yoru game now

That was just the pic. Only 59 potential victims were dlled.

according to the list at the bottom of the residential lot threads on MTS2 theres 13 of them, nengi included


   


FFS that made my eyes bleed

Through the MTS2 grapevine I heard she wasn't doing the approvals anymore. She all but retired as a mod after Lyric got shitcanned. It's obvious Nengi has her tongue so far up Lyric's ass they can french kiss though. She followed Lyric over to exnem and opened her own site.

Obviously this information isn't firsthand, but I can believe she doesn't do approvals and you can see that she uploads to exnems.

well even if that is true now, she seems to dispose of her friends (or part ways with them) more often than she changes her panties, so it doesnt mean it will last lol

Is this a joke?

http://www.sexysims2.com/member.php?find=lastposter&f=338

 :roll:

the avatar? shes used that before at...s2c i think
it also showed up (on that sexysims profile) in the google search i did for a previous post here lol
so its not new, and i dont think its a joke lol (well i mean its funny to us yes but i mean she didnt put it up to amuse us)
even if she knows deep down that shes a hypocrite/dramaqueen [enter your choice of adjectives here] she wouldnt admit to it, and you can bet that even if she did admit to it, she wouldnt think shes "as bad" as the people she hates on  :roll:

Thanks wicked_one, the irony of it was too much to ignore.

Damn it... Should of thought of that  :cry:

:cry: Should have read the FAQ.  If you're going to read back into ancient history, will you not bring our dead back to haunt us?

The FAQ (http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/viewtopic.php?t=1104) is your friend. Go read it now.

I'm serious. Go now.

You'll thank me later.

(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x52/AshRedfern/cats/zombiecat.jpg)

Ill thank you in advance  :D  
And it's like taking forever to load  :(
But I changed my username now  :twisted:  bwuahaha.

Btw, i ressurected this thread, didn't I?  :oops:

 :shock:  No, it came back to life on it's own.  :roll:

Ill just lead myself to believe that it wasn't a sarcastic comment.  8)

Me? Sarcastic?  Nevah!  :lol:

(http://www.lolcats.com/images/u/07/29/lolcatsdotcomd9kgdhscwiz4m2gr.jpg)

Lol. Ok i think we should leave this thread to die now. And bury it deep under the ground so people don't realise ive been resurecting threads  :oops:

How in the heck do you post a meme without getting a screen thingie that gripes you out?

Huh?
*Confused*   :?:

[b]Your body is twisted, you ass is where your head should be and you just as well shit out your mouth you vermin scum bucket!!!!!!!

Fuck you one and all.   Find out who I am I dare you bastard theft ring and terrorist. [/b]

errr...
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u208/liverspout/catz/SephirothDemands.jpg)

You're not the only one who is confused, Feverish. I can't imagine why it would think any of us around here would care who it is. Let alone bother to go to the trouble to find out.

I think it/he/she is trying to tells us something. I just don't understand what it is. All i hear is *Blah Blah Blah* :lol:

Could it be???............

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/Witchboy/Signatures/Kirk_Confession.gif)

It didn't even say "me too".

I can't even summon the energy to find a suitable cat.

:roll:  Unfuckingbelievable.  :shock:

I checked the only other post that person made and came up with this:
http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/viewtopic.php?p=55089#55089

could it be?? Jan/Bev/crazyassbitch???

My vote is TROLL!  The troll read MissA's comment about not bringing back this thread...and ran with it.  TROLL!  Now go away.

Oh I can:

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FOR THE LOVE OF RUM, PLEASE STOP RESURRECTING FUCKING POSTS!  And whoever you are - Sam, you are a damned idiot.  Shit, I don't even understand what your point was - so let me be perfectly clear:

(http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/1163920487-1162654511656.b.jpg)

(http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/1171365073-117099064695594548.b.jpg)

True stupidity - 2 kittehs. I'm beginning to truly dislike Sundays.

Un-fucking-believable...  :roll:

(http://media.funlol.com/content/img/there-are-no-cookies-here.jpg)

Why i do think it is Sybil :shock: She must be off her meds & having a bad acid flashback :lol:  

We need some Troll Be Gone Spray (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/Witchboy/Signatures/TrollBGone.gif)

(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p183/RedlovesPirates/frodobitchplease.png)

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1345/1418140755_211a774b8a_o.jpg)

Here
(http://icanhascheezburger.wordpress.com/files/2007/09/128338599864218750iopenzdoor4.jpg) (http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/09/21/i-openz-door-4-u/)
Don't let it hit you on the way out.

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Her own dedicated thread is dead so she decides to bring up another drama whore's shit.  Lovely.  yeah, I'm not at all happy.  Someone give a quarter to each of them so we can send them down hell's river :!:  --metaphorically *shifty eyes*

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Seriously. Fuck off. Now.

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It still breathes and it's killing me with it's bad grammar! Go the hell away. More macros! More macros!


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QUICK! It's a Jan. Apply the Holy Water!

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They could at least try to make sense, eh?

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Oh, I see. This person needs some help being better understood. Don't worry, I'm an English grammar professor. I'm here to help.



First, bold should be used sparingly.

"Asshole" is one word, and a comma after wrong would have been appropriate.



Capitalize the first letter at the beginning of a sentence.

"Loose" is probably not the word you wanted. Consider "lose".

The sentence actually makes little sense. Is this what you were going for?
You lose. Maybe it is a dear friend of yours who has become a turncoat. This is a popular screenname.



"Fuckwad" is one word.

The member's name is "Paden". If you make reference to a person by name, it is important to get that name correct. It should also be capitalized, as it's a proper noun.

Again, period after "Paden", and capital letter to start the next sentence.

"No one else matters here" - unclear reference; are you suggesting only Paden matters? Where is here?

The correct spelling is "jerks".



This is a run-on sentence. Consider revising: Come out and fight like a man. Oh, that is right; you are not one, you wussy.

"Wussy" is the word you were looking for right? "Woosie" is a misspelling of a word that means nauseated.

And gain, fi you are going to refer to a person, get their gender correct. Paden is a woman. So you are correct in saying "you are not one".



Again with the 'jerkes'. At least you're consistently spelling it wrong.

Comma splice - this should be two sentences, with the appropriate capital letters and periods.

Content issue: the world believes I am here; in fact, we are all here. The wrodl is probably not terribly concerned if we are here or not, but we are. Your posting to us confirms that we are. This was a nonsense comment that should be edited out.



JERKS. J-E-R-K-S. Please get that spelling right.

Once again, the properly placed capital letters and period will help your clarity significantly. Consider this revision:
Your game is to bother everyone else, but maybe it is our turn to both you now, jerks that you are.
See how much easier that is to read?



"Sam sun sims" - what is this in reference to? It is important in your writing to be clear about what you are discussing. New topics awkardly introduced like this will baffle your reader.

"dangerous.but" - I believe you meant to put a comma and a space there; consider revising.

"her" is incorrect. I believe you meant "here". "here is a pronoun indicating a female; "here" is an adjective, describing place.



Please be certain to keep your coding correctly placed.

Hope this helps. Clear, concise rants are more understandable for your readers.

Translated:


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Hec rocks for even trying to translate that gobbly-de-gook.

And just cause I love this macro:  :lol:

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The correct spelling for the troll <coughjancough>

a lot
Paden
jerks
wussies
anyone
jerks

Now see, I take the night off to do a few things I needed to get done and a lovely troll shows up. I really do hope they don't think this is either cussing us out good and proper, or that they have any real point. The grammar and spelling in this post lacks a certain amount of intelligence that can only be from our dear fuck nut.... Oh Gods PLEASE let it be the fuck nut! :D

I have been waiting for a troll for a while now...hmm what, 3 or so weeks? And this is all you have - bad spelling.

I am not impressed.

*sigh* Trolls, they are just not want they used to be..

As a troll, Jan, you fail. What's the matter, are you pissed off because we stopped talking about you? You wanna know why? Because you are boring.

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I'm with you Capn Jojoba.  Can't we at least get one that matches us in intellect?  I mean, come on, Jan should know by now that she will never match us regardless.  Like we wouldn't recognize her spelling/grammer/rant posts.  Please, give me a break.

Cala, Love the Anti Jan Holy Water ROFLMAO! :lol:

Oh & speaking of Jan, here's her new group opened on the 19th of Sept.

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/janssims2creations/

If you want, when it gets ultra boring, I will be a troll for a little while.  :D

I am sure I would be an exciting one.  And I can spell.  Although for ease, I could stop using words like ease for a start, and spelling only with lowercase.  then see how you like that.  :D

WB and Cala, you are too fast for me!

Jan is boring anyways. Let's drown her in kitty litter!
Moar kitteh!
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That ws Jan?

Shit.

I wasted a good grammar lesson. <sigh>

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Hecubus, That is priceless! :lol: Now i can't get the quote "Marcia! Marcia! Marcia!" out of my head :P

Well I am late to the party again, but I will never pass up a chance to use a kittah.


This is what I think of you Jan.
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Go finish highschool man, take summerclasses in English. Make something of your life.

Please just stop. You're embarrassing all the other 6-year-olds.

The Question is........

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:lol:

Anyone else thinking Cala pretending to be a troll would be fun? A lot more interesting than the recent batch for sure.  :lol:

Nouk trolled for us for a while in the spring. She was much better at it than these latest pathetic attempts. Actually, she was one of the best trolls on the phorum evah!

Please, Cala and/or Nouk, if you feel up to it, go ahead. We could use the excitement. :D

Trolling here,
trolling there,
trolling everywhere.

*writes down 45 catchy anti pirate phrases on pieces of paper and puts them in a hat*

*shakes*

*pulls one out*

"You are all assholes who need piratey power on the interwab to compensate for the lack of social skills in the real world! Get a life! NYAH!"



*pulls another one out*
"OMG LEAVE BRITNEY ALLONE!"

... huh?



*pulls out another one*
"Our paysite cult is cooler and secretier than yours."



*Pulls out another one*
"Delphy is an evil child..."  LAME

*pulls out another one*
"Delphy is an evil child..."  LAME

*pulls out another one*
"Delphy is an evil child..."  LAME

*pulls out another one*
"Delphy is an evil child..."  LAME

*pulls out another one*
"Delphy is an evil child..."  LAME

*pulls out another one*
"Delphy is an evil child..."  LAME

*pulls out another one*
"Delphy is an evil child..."  LAME

"Delphy is an evil child..."  argh


WHY THE HELL DOES IT KEEP REPEATING? Don't tell me I wrote that down 40 times. It's allmost authentic!


Conclusion: There is not logical rebuttal, except: I want to keep getting paid, and I want you out of the way. I don't give a poop if it's illegal.

Oh GOD please no!! Not that freak Cris Crocker... ( he did the leave Britteny alone thing.) Isn't it enough that he has a tv deal now?

Um, what?  A t.v. deal?  More info, please.

Yes more info please. I just find it hard to believe someone gave that screaming queen a tv deal :lol:

Jan, you just pissed me off. IF I am the person you mean, spell it right, you silly twat! Second, don't make threats that you have no clue as to how to make into a promise. Third, we know who and what you are and we aren't impressed, not even a little timid. Annoyed, yes. Learn to spell, cunt. That is a word I reserve for people like you. They have to earn it, and bitch, you did. Now, go take your meds and get back into the padded cell where you belong.

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Jan until you have acquired the ability to master this(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/baileybop/Cats/spellcheck.jpg) go back to the hole where you belong.

Here do this to your computer and follow up with a hammer to the monitor.
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Hecubus, I know this is yours, but I just have to use it, sorry.

JAN----------OFF WITH YOUR FUCKING HEAD!!!

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Here's the scoop:

Chris Crocker gets Britney Spears TV Show
Posted Sep 20, 2007 PM ET

The young made who made a crying video about Britney Spears will get his own TV show.

Britney Spears fan, Chris Crocker, has signed a TV production deal with 44 Blue Productions. They are planning to create a show around Crocker. They are going to focus it on his life as a gay man in a small town in the United States.

Crocker makes videos is in his closet about Britney Spears and then posts them on YouTube. One of the episodes had him crying and telling everyone to “leave Britney alone.” You can see the makeup he wears as well when he makes these shows.

Crocker lives with his grandmother and is an absolute crazed fan of Britney Spears.

A spokesman for 44 Blue Productions said to think of it as the “Chris Crocker experience.”

They stated that he is going to be a TV star as he is interesting and a rebel of a character.

Going from YouTube to your own television show? Not bad.


Source: http://www.halflifesource.com/site/news/chris_crocker_gets_britney_spears_tv_show/article9553.htm

Okay you guys asked for it, so don't send my the shrink bills.... please.
Original video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

Then the link to the tv deal page:
http://www.tmz.com/2007/09/19/brit-fans-15-minutes-live-on/

Edited to say: oops too late.

Huh? what's he want, to be Brittney's next ex-husband?
Is he by chance related to Jan?

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I just want to know what brand of eyeliner and mascara he uses, it doesn't seem to smear or run.  

Other than that, he's a freak.  OMG - and he lives with his grandparents and he has an exciting life????  That's an oxymoron.

I am 10 and can't spell that great you fuck wad !!!!!!!  i have red hair and will kick your ass bastard!!!!!!!  shittttttttttt on you fuck wadely .

amusing taint it trolling woosie you did your play and you stink and reak of dumbness you shit head. while you are at it why don't you close your mouth as u mouth stings

Fuck off you drug addict shit head  :evil:  :twisted:  :roll:  :!:  :D

Really Jan, didn't Hecubus show you how to spell things such as wussy?  What is your deal with Paden?  And why is you having red hair relevant?

BTW, what is fuck wadely?

You are 10?

Where is your mother? Does she know you go to sites for adults? Does she know you use that language? Your mouth should be washed out with soap and you should be banned from using the computer until you are 18.

I'm horrfied.

He's Back!!! *dancing* Moar kitties.............oh, and someone call Hecubus fast - grammar lessons are needed again.

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Damn I would rather watch a Chris Crocker video, that try to comprehend your babbling. Go crawl back into your hole you troll.

Oh and the requisite macro for our viewing pleasure:
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Oh Gods you are amusing in a fuck nut kinda way. You still fail on cussing us out dear. See in order for it to count, it has to make sense and be spelled correctly.

OH and what the fuck does red hair have to do with ass kicking? You think you have the market cornered on red hair or ass kicking? Sorry you fail on that too, although I do dye mine a lovely dark shade of brown... or black depending on how I feel.

The only thing you don't fail on is admitting that you are 10, although with the rule of 6 that would really make you 6... so isn't it your bedtime sweetie? Go on now before someone spanks you.

In all seriousness, if this member is under 13, they can be banned for lying on the registration. We are clearly a 13+ forum. I notified the Dread Pirate. We may not have this lame excuse for a troll around much longer. I rather prefer fighting with paysite owners than children.

Here, I found someone nearer your age group  :D

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She's BACK and this time it's personal.   :cry:

GO AWAY Charlotte/Jan/Bev/Bev1/Bev2/Bev3/SallyMD/CM/Janmoo/Janmoo1/Janmoo2/Janmoo3/Janmoo4/Janmoo5/ Jan_32/Heather/Jocr/Maggie/Mary/Marysrs/Maryus/CJM/CJM56/CJM_56/cm/LuraScott/Venus_p101/jandrake/jdcs54

I think I missed some identities.  So sorry.

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You are such a stupid piece of filth that your mother should have kept the afterbirth and thrown away the child at your birth. So what, you have red hair, so do I. Get over it, there is no way that it makes you special. The only thing that makes you special is that you can abuse a keyboard in such a fashion that you make George Bush look very intelligent. If you were an adult, I would wish that you were a monkey so that you could suck your own dick and get so involved in doing it that your mind, or what you have left of one, would be occupied. But as you claim to be a child, I suggest that you get enrolled in anger management and some tutorial classes so that you may at least spell the simple words right. What in the hell is your problem with me, I don't even know you. Are you one of Jan's more verbal personalities? Are you channeling the spirit of some dead dumb fuck who has issues with women that have minds of their own? If that is the case, get a priest. People like you are the ones that grow up to kill, abuse and commit other crimes. What would someone your supposed age know of being terrorists, or do you chase your sibling or pet around with a knife, screaming threats and obscenities? You're a waste of sperm and the best of you went down your mother's leg at conception. Grow up, dumbass.

Paden, that was so beautiful that it brought a tear to my eye. I bow down to you.

Isn't she great? No one does a rant like our Paden.

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Paden FTW...again!!!

I would just like to say THANK YOU for posting your 2nd post in a most honorable fashion.  Welcome, have rum!

Paden  FTW

And Sam

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Woohoo! I got rum! :D

*slinks back into the shadows*

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*shakes head*  What is wrong with kids these days.  Tsk, tsk.  Come here I have a paddle with your name on it.

I'm sad that I don't have an ass bastard for the troll to kick  :cry:


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You know since I love stating the obvious so much, I really think this person it not a kid, 12 probably but not a kid. If you look at their first post over in the main street sims thead, he/she/whatever uses much better spelling.

http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/viewtopic.php?t=1085&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=1365
Me thinks that He/she/whatever thinks they are fucking with us.

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You mean, it thinks it's bieng clever?
Good Lord.
 :lol:

The 6 year old has been banned for failure to convincingly pretend to be older than 12.

*golf clap* for Paden.

So, I just refound the forum the other day, like yesterday, I do believe and I saw this stuff about Lyric Lee and I read some of it.  It must have made quite the impression because I laid down to take a nap and I dreamed that Lyric Lee was a zombie and she had a mass of zombie partners and they were trying to take over the world.  I had a little computer like Inspector Gadget's niece, Penny, and I could look things up about them at any time and see their whereabouts.  I have decided that I am no longer visiting forums before I sleep. I just thought I would share that.   It was one of those where you wake up and say WTF was that!?!P.S.  My hubby has red hair. ;)

WOW!!  That was so random. I guess LyricLee could be compared to a brain sucking zombie.

Come now, be nice to the zombies.

Zombies wouldn't be nice to you. Oh sure, it's all well and good when you're facing them but the second you turn your back on them, they'll suck your brain out through the back of your skull.

reg. padens rant! rofl - i only wish i could insult as well as you do :)

I currently have red hair, and feel offended that someone with such a lack of intellect would claim that they belong to a hairtype that is not stereotypically stupid. Not to offend blondes either, since I am bottle red, and naturally have my stupid moments. Who knows, this could be one of them.   :wink:

Whether it was a not-so-clever ploy, a genuine moment of anger-fueled idiocy, or just a 6 year old who thinks he/she is being cool, I'm glad they'll no longer be an issue.

Honestly, my seven year old demonstrates more thought in his bowel movements than this @$$clown did in his/her pathetic rant.
(my apologies for the foul language)

Kudos, Padens!

It would be so awesome if this thread died.  For Good.

the real test is doing it without the foul language

karu, you've read enough of my stuff to know that I do not always resort to the use of foul language. Sometimes, though, it just helps to get the edge off, ya know? I am very capable of chewing out an imbecile without becoming crude and foul, my dear. At times, however it seems needed for the shock value.
I've got three styles which I tend to use for it, depending on the severity of my annoyance. Have some rum, and please don't spill on the carpet, I just had the silly thing cleaned. Oh, and cookies and cake are to the right on the table marked "refreshments". Have a good one!

Pescado, please, lock this thread.  I am begging you.  ;_;

Funny how half the posts are people telling people not to post or whining about the posting  :lol:

*cough*

I don't think that works...

only 1 thing besides Pescado can kill it now.....



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Edited to remove disturbed cat.

(Thanks, karu!) :)

So, a friend of mine is a silent simmer. She and I live in the same building <right next to each other> so she uses my router, which means she's banned from a few assholicious sims 2 sites. Anyway. She joined EXNEM for the sole purpose of posting this. She's tired of being silent. She sent this to our favourite bytch kitten....

My god, I've corrupted my innocent little angel with bitchiness.


thought it'd give a laugh.

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Maybe it's just me, but, I didn't laugh.  It's just immature to send emails or pms like that one.  :roll:

I agree with Keirra. That was a petty and childish, not funny.

Also, for the love of Ceiling Cat, let this thread finally rot in peace!  :x

Well, I mean, she IS eleven years old.

But yeah. This are should die.

she is really 31 years old, she told some people in a chat once

ATTENTION ALL PEOPLE WHO THINK TO POST IN THIS THREAD AGAIN.

PLEASE DO NOT.  NO ONE WANTS TO DISCUSS LYRIC LEE, AND YOU ARE DOING A GREAT DISSERVICE TO DISCUSS IT AGAIN.

YOU WILL BE WHINED AND BITCHED AT BY PIRATES, AND YOUR TIME ON THE PHORUM WILL BE HELLISH.

DON'T DO IT. DON'T REPLY TO THIS POST.

NOT EVEN TO SAY YAY!!! AND AGREE WITH ME. DON'T EVEN POST TO SAY YOU'RE SORRY.  JUST STOP.

Apparently everyone likes the zombie thread.  Continue.

This thread is no different than any of the other drama threads.  It's an outlet to vent.


Maybe you are just a little jealous cause she is taking a bit of the spotlight off of you?   :P

What spotlight on me?

It's merely that people aren't reading what's above them with all the requests for it to die. And the thread to vent hasn't been used in a lot of venting - just basic information.  I thought if I put something there, it would prevent 2 pages of pleading for it to die.  You like it, let's keep it going.  :P