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Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: ChloeFox on 2006 December 25, 03:01:57
taken from:  http://www.boutiqueemilie.net/


Updates
Merry Christmas! I hope everyone's holiday will be filled with joy and happiness. Thank you so much for the past year, I can't believe how many of you have visited this site. Almost 1 000 000! In the light of the success B. Emilie has had, I'm sad to announce that I'll be closing the site early next year. My interest in sims has faded this fall and I don't feel creative enough to create for it. There's just no will power. Even playing the game is boring. I think I need to move on. I'm truly sorry about this because I know it'll dissapoint a lot of you kind people out there. I'm saying this now as a warning, to give you plenty of time to grab everything you might want to keep in the future. Also, I'm changing my policy: you're allowed to share all of my creations from this point on (except the donation gifts of course). You may send them via email to each other, or upload to download sites such as MTS2. You may NOT however take credit for my work, or submit my files to a pay site. I think that's all I wanted to say. Best wishes.


Typical pay site owner. They'll shut down a site but leave up that little blue Pay Pal button until it rots and rusts. It's understandable that she's sick of the game, but it's lame that she's being stingy with her shit hole donation set. They are in the booty, but they aren't event that good.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: Xerolize on 2006 December 25, 03:44:35
Well, will she still be creating for TSR? I haven't seen anything in her blog. Also, I don't see the paypal button or the donation set anymore. :?:


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: Super_Pirate_Dude on 2006 December 25, 04:05:32
Quote from: "Xerolize"
Well, will she still be creating for TSR? I haven't seen anything in her blog. Also, I don't see the paypal button or the donation set anymore. :?:


probably not, she doesn't like sims anymore


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: idtaminger on 2006 December 25, 04:49:43
I don't see it as *that* unreasonable. She's only ever had like a couple of donation sets anyways. And she's not saying to keep paying her for her donation sets even after her site's closed. For some reason, she just wants her donation sets to stay w/ the people who donated only. It might seem like a bizarre request to you, but hey, at least she's not being greedy.

And at least she's not pulling a forwardmotion (hopefully). Like OMG I tried to get a life so I'm closing my site but whoops TSR's waving that money in my face so I guess I'll stay and create for you guys instead of having a life!!! That dude pisses me off.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: Jysudo on 2006 December 25, 05:07:24
Frankly I don't see anything wrong with her request regarding paid files. She is just trying to keep her files unique which is exactly in the interests of those who paid.

Can you imagine if you once paid for her files but now it is going free because she is closing? You might feel a sense of betrayal as a consumer. I think she is not greedy. If she is, she would just stay on creating with TSR.

Sometimes it is good to look at things in a larger persepective and not just accuse anyone who had a few paysites as being greedy.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: Pescado on 2006 December 25, 05:31:58
Quote from: "Jysudo"
Can you imagine if you once paid for her files but now it is going free because she is closing? You might feel a sense of betrayal as a consumer. I think she is not greedy. If she is, she would just stay on creating with TSR.

This pretty much happens all the time in real life. Aren't you pissed that I can pick up clothes at the Salvation Army that you paid an arm and a leg for 30 years ago? No? Yeah, see?

Quote from: "Jysudo"
Sometimes it is good to look at things in a larger persepective and not just accuse anyone who had a few paysites as being greedy.

PAYSITES MUST BE DESTROYED!


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: tIIsuggas on 2006 December 25, 11:21:00
Another kill mark perhaps?

As the site is closing after the arrival of PMBD.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: BlueSoup on 2006 December 25, 11:21:46
She's definitely not a killmark.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: Doursim on 2006 December 25, 14:03:53
BE was one of the few sites I still downloaded from :(  Is the site going offline?  I hope people put her work up @ mts2.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: torque on 2006 December 26, 15:04:58
Quote from: "Super_Pirate_Dude"
Quote from: "Xerolize"
Well, will she still be creating for TSR? I haven't seen anything in her blog. Also, I don't see the paypal button or the donation set anymore. :?:


probably not, she doesn't like sims anymore


Of course she will. She'll be over on TSR faster than you can say "cabbage". Like Jesse said, all the cool kids are doing it!


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: Stitches on 2006 December 26, 16:56:57
Research people: Emilie has been at TSR as "GS Emilie" for over a year. She has a few sets up there. She is currently set as a "Retired Artist."

Anyways, I don't have a bad thing to say about her. I like her stuff and I think it's shitty to cry "TSR Sellout" everytime someone closes a site - especially since it's pretty obvious that Emilie had the good graces to put up a very open redistribution policy. I never felt that she had a donation set up to rip people off - in fact, it isn't even available on her site as far as I can tell. It seemed to honestly be about bandwidth, as her previous site had a lot of bandwidth problems.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: Quorneater on 2006 December 26, 17:28:09
Sorry, but "honestly about bandwidth" doesn't exist these days when there are many places that host CC free.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: Stitches on 2006 December 26, 22:34:39
Right. The fact that for several months now, she has not had the donation set up on her site, implies (to me at least) that she found another way around her bandwidth problems. I don't really know that I can fault someone who had a donation set in the past, and then got rid of it when the discovered another way of doing things. Many CC creators are not professional site designers or very familiar with hosting in general. It takes a certain learning curve while they explore their options.

Perhaps I haven't had all my faith in humanity beaten out of me yet though.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: Got_Nerd on 2006 December 26, 23:34:47
Just give it time.  And a few encounters with Pescado  :lol:

On a serious note, I'll really miss her site.  Aside from the frequent layout changes, it was definitely one of the better ones in the community.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: lucy_fell on 2006 December 27, 06:56:01
Aww, this makes me sad. I always use her CC in my game. And I do understand her policy regarding her pay files. Maybe she thinks it's only fair that the people who actually paid are the only ones who get to use them, never mind those of us who got them from other sources. It doesn't really matter to me because I think her free stuff are better than her pay ones.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: Not Paper on 2006 December 27, 13:55:29
If she was set as a "retired artist" as Stitches said, it must have changed in the last day or so: GS Emilie (http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/gs%20emilie) at TSR is currently an "Awarded Artist". All of her stuff requires a subscription to download, as well.
Oh, no-- wait. It does require a subscription to download, but she's under "Retired Artist" on the "Retired Artists" page. I guess having "Select Artist" and "Retired Artist" is just another way of saying "they don't make stuff anymore, but people like them too much for us to make them free-- I mean, goodness, man, what would that do to our profits?!"

Either way, it's too bad- I was hoping to get some of it.

I had no idea the owner of Boutique Emilie was also the owner of Get Skintight., though. I missed that site, and had no idea where it had disappeared to.
Guess I didn't care that much, otherwise I would have found it out by now.

I liked Boutique Emilie pretty well, but I'm not so disappointed by its closing.

As for the "I do not want my donation sets to be shared, even though the site is closing" thing, I would guess it was because it might be seen as unfair by the subscribers. "I paid for this, and now they're getting it for free? Outrage!"
Then again, of course, I have my suspicions of her moving to TSR. But, they're just that: suspicions. Basically unfounded! And if I turn out to be wrong, everyone can point and laugh at me.
I'm quite okay with that.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: Surelyfunke on 2006 December 27, 16:16:40
GS Emilie has been a Retired Artist at TSR for quite some time already. Her stuff will be up in the Booty when my internet connection improves, and hopefully early January when real life stops being so busy. :P


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: Stitches on 2006 December 28, 15:39:56
Which is great news for those that mentioned missing Get Skintight, as all the GS Emilie downloads from TSR are the content of Get Skintight.

If anything, I imagine she might do what she did before - when she actually closes the site, she might dump the currently free downloads onto TSR, like she did when she closed Get Skintight.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: Doursim on 2006 December 28, 16:27:30
Well, she did mention that any site can host her BE stuff, as long as credit was given.  So if I wanted to I could open up a BE section on my site and host all her stuff there.  Would TSR want to host stuff that people could get anywhere else?


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: BlueSoup on 2006 December 28, 16:32:54
Maybe someone can contact her and get permission to post all her stuff at MTS2?

Someone on SFV has it all, pictures and everything.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: Doursim on 2006 December 28, 17:23:24
You don't need to contact her.  (at least, she doesn't outline that you need to) It's all on the front page.  In fact, she specifically mentioned MTS2 as a place to host her things.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: BlueSoup on 2006 December 28, 17:26:40
Ahh...I haven't even checked.  But, to put something on that site in her name (a la Sussi), we'd need to contact her, wouldn't we?


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: Doursim on 2006 December 28, 17:32:12
I'm not sure.  I guess you'd have to ask her make sure those at MTS2 realize that her things could be posted by other people.  I'm sure they'd want 1 person to post everything so that there wern't double listings of the same things.  It doesn't look like anyone has put her stuff up at MTS2 yet.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: BlueSoup on 2006 December 28, 17:45:01
I've contacted her regarding making a coordinated effort to put stuff up on MTS2 under her name, like Sussi.  I guess we'll see what she says.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: ViolentDucky on 2006 December 30, 04:09:15
I find this reaking of....something. My conspiracy sense is tingling!

I find it strange that less then a month ago, GSEmilie was offering to host Xander's atomically correct skins on her site....then friegns 'disinterest' suddenly, and bows out. She didn't seem uninterested then...

And ....getskintight? Here---> http://www.getskintight.net/  ?

I found that link yesterday, going through simsquirts hopelessly outdated links. I thought it'd take me to nothing...but surprise!

Quote
getskingtight.net will provide information regarding Sims™ skins and other resources. getskintight.net is being redeveloped right now and will be open early 2007. This section will be updated frequently in the time leading up to our launch.

Some of the features we plan to open are skin sales, where we will sell skins, we will accept Paypal™ and Major Credit Cards. We will also be buying skins from users. We will also sell games and gaming hardware to fully enjoy the Sims™ game. We will also have tutorials on how to make skins. We will cover everything from concept to execution.


Now, I retreat to my corner, back to being an ill-informed moron.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: BlueSoup on 2006 December 30, 04:10:45
Hmm

I did email her, asking if we could make an effort to get all her content on MTS2 so it wouldn't get lost.  She turned me down, said she didn't want people to think she was spamming with her shit.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: wicked_one on 2006 December 30, 04:49:52
well that domain has been up for sale for quite awhile, it wouldnt surprise me if someone decided to buy it and use it for some new endeavor, it doesnt sound like its connected with the real getskintight though...or at least not to me.

And yeah they are trying to space out the Sussi uploads to mts2 because everytime HP uploads them she does like 10 at a time and nobody elses downloads show up on the main page...so it looks like spamming, so I can see why Emilie would say she didnt want to do the same thing.

But shes probably planning on putting them all up on tsr (like it was mentioned before, thats where all the GS stuff is and of course they are all pay)...so that might be another reason why she said no to mts2.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: Soup Parrot on 2006 December 30, 07:19:57
I have not seen anymore DLS of Sussis lately at MTS2. At least she didnt go the TSR way :).


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: madcreator on 2006 December 30, 13:09:34
Wow, that new getskintight.net site is really open about the fact that they will SELL skins, no hiding behind "donations to keep the site up" crap.

I'm very sure that Emilie is not the person behind that site though.

But it's freaky, Emilie named get skintight after a "The Donnas" song. Can't see why anyone would want that name when It's already been used (or maybe that's the reason they want it). Doesn't exactly have anything to do with the sims either :?


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: Stitches on 2006 December 30, 19:30:34
Quote from: "madcreator"
Wow, that new getskintight.net site is really open about the fact that they will SELL skins, no hiding behind "donations to keep the site up" crap.

I'm very sure that Emilie is not the person behind that site though.

But it's freaky, Emilie named get skintight after a "The Donnas" song. Can't see why anyone would want that name when It's already been used (or maybe that's the reason they want it). Doesn't exactly have anything to do with the sims either :?


It doesn't make sense unless you look at it from a business point of view. Often in business, you don't start an entirely new company with a new name - you buy an existing company and the intangible benefit of instant name recognition in the existing business community.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: BlueSoup on 2006 December 31, 09:09:52
Well, I don't know if this was on her site before, but it's certainly there now:

Quote
I will not be working exclusively for TSR, even though I was a featured artist there before, so don't think I'm closing because of something like that. I think that's all I wanted to say.
Best wishes.


Seems like she reads our little forum here.  Or at least has heard the rumours somewhere...


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: Seawench on 2006 December 31, 21:31:27
Funny that she says she's closing down because she's lost all interest in creating and playing the game.. yet she's going to be doing some work for TSR.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: postergirl on 2006 December 31, 22:46:49
Quote from: "Seawench"
Funny that she says she's closing down because she's lost all interest in creating and playing the game.. yet she's going to be doing some work for TSR.


Damn, I must have really misread the "I will NOT" part.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: BlueSoup on 2006 December 31, 22:51:08
Quote from: "Seawench"
Funny that she says she's closing down because she's lost all interest in creating and playing the game.. yet she's going to be doing some work for TSR.


Umm she said quite the opposite, actually.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: Seawench on 2007 January 01, 03:41:19
She said that she will not be working *exclusively* for TSR, which implies that she will still be doing some work.  That's how I read it anyway. /shrugs


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: BlueSoup on 2007 January 01, 11:29:09
I think you're reading it wrong actually, putting emphasis on the wrong word.


Title: this makes a lot of sense...
Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 01, 13:19:00
I checked her TSR site theres no activity there, she probably is trully quitting, people get burnt out, and need changes from time to time. Right now not playing sims taking a break.