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I don't know that it will amount to anything but I say a thread over at Sims Cave by someone going by the name "Leo" which states:

Thoughts? I'm sure this isn't the first time something similar has happened. The user's profile doesn't list a site or an email address, so hopefully this is some moron's idea of a bad joke.

Link or it didn't happen.

It seems like a joke to me (even if it is meant as serious) because he couldn't sue for the said creations since they belong to EA. I'm not sure if he can still mess with their hosting provider? (Wouldn't put it past the scumbag to try if this is real) I don't know, but I think they should be fine.

ETA: True he hasn't mentioned anything about suing, I only mentioned it because he has no legal rights to them :) But yea true the hosting company might get nervous and not care to find out the true facts before acting. Hmmmm

:P <-- click me (http://www.simscave.com/index.php?topic=7217.msg79762#new)

He isn't saying anything about suing - hosting companies get very twitchy when anyone talks about things like copyright infringement or piracy - all he has to do is make a stink about the posters at the cave sharing the work of others without right to. The hosting company is unlikely to care about the intricacies of package files and game formats and EULA legalese, at least at first. I would assume that they've faced something like this before, though?

I remember tje owner coming here with problems once before, but she talked to Pescado so I'm no really sure what it was about (that, and my memory is failsauce).

It's true that providers don't really care about the legalities and technicalities. Make a big enough stink and they'll pull any site. The balleet finger gets very twitchy.

I doubt anything would happen. I mean think of how many people before this schmuck had to complain? It's not like Sims Cave just appeared over night. I highly doubt anything serious would happen, and if it did all they would have to do is talk to Pes.

Does Pescado host Sims Cave? If so - yay! :) I'm just starting to actually post there, I'd hate to see anything happen to them!

Well it's not strange that all pirate (sympathisant) sites are under attack. Paysites are actively trying to isolate 'us' untill there's nowhere to go but Pescado's servers, and they'll probably figure that they can hack that and destroy it all forgood.

http://www.simscave.com/index.php?topic=7218.0

He even made a bitch about it in "Rant Rage." Sim Cavers don't seem to be to affected by this guy. Apparently he is pissed because they have his creations in their sharing area.

http://charmed-sims.com/

I hope he tries to shut them down. Thus causing the cavers to write warner brothers. Love to see how he handles that one.

Pescado has responded.   :D

Well that was certainly worth a laugh.

Sometimes I wish they'd complain more - I do so like it when Pescado tells them 'come get me'. :D

You think they'd do it via PM wouldn't you, just so they didn't look so silly in public.

I can haz screenies, plz? Not a member of Sims Cave.

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg81/ChaosInAMinor/Picture1-3-1.jpg)

Yes. And Simscave is mirrored to 3 seperate countries on a daily basis, same as Coconut, so any attack up to and including nuclear strike is futile.

Short and sweet, huh? No rants needed.

Man, it's a good thing Pescado is so on top of things. I can't believe all these increased attacks on freesites that have been happening... if I didn't already hate paysites, this would definitely push me there.

It would not be in his character to not do it in public. Owing to the fact that we do not bash free creators here, I won't go into it but lets just say he is a bit of a character. Seems he's been busy reporting the links to the downloads in the SharingArea already - mediafrier has fried some of them.

It's one free site attacking another. I think the pointstore is cute, but a better format would be to have sparse items and once someone has the gathered points (from special contests or whatever, not from being obliged to participate in yet another sims 2 forum) the item is released on the site for everyone, but named after the person, dedicated to them, whatever. Exclusivity is really annoying. Wanting to force people to talk and talk untill they have enough points just to get something is even more annoying.

I know the guy somewhat and he is indeed a bit of a character.
I dont truly understand why a free creator would be worried that their stuff is available elsewhere for free? If someone wanted my stuff that badly it was on a site like Sims Cave I would be jumping up and down in glee, not trying to get it all removed. Maybe I am just weird. :-\

Maybe he's eying up a move to TSR?

Sounds like a character indeed. I just assumed he was a paysite owner since he was complaining about his files being shared. Er, my apologies to him, I guess.

Some people only seem to be motivated to create because they want to hear how good their stuff is. It's the same with writing or any other talent. They don't do it because they enjoy it; they enjoy the attention that people give them and they like knowing that people have to work/ pay to get their creations.

He has some sort of gift or something for people who donate, I dont know what it is however. When he first started it was just a little "donator" thingy in your profile. He has changed his site and all since then though, and you need to be logged in to donate, and see what the "gift" is.

Your right about that. to me it's the same mentality as the paysite owner.

I didn't receive a gift when I donated. As far as I knew there wasn't one. But he's lied to me once, I wouldn't be surprised if he did again. I used to be a "Charmed One" (Mod) on there. He demoted me cause I kept asking him if he knew or was Eric DeMars. And he kept telling me no. I know he is because when I donated, my paypal receipt said the donation when to Eric DeMars. Now tell me, how the blue hell do you not know who owns your site? It's funny cause I have visible proof he at least knows Eric DeMars. I've shown him. All he can say is, "I don't know him or I'm done talking.". I think the reason why he denies it is because of him getting caught by the Animal Army (and others) for stealing from Helaene and Hairfish plus calling him out for pretending to be Helaene on her own guestbook!!

Does whoever this is post stuff under his real name? Because I'd rather not have his real name sitting out there if he doesn't. I have no idea who we're talking about here, just sayin'.

There is a post on the sims cave from a user edemars in support of leo's post.

I have the slightest feeling that the other people that are now going on the SimsCave and asking to remove the Charmed sims files are the same person.

Either that, or they're too lazy to type their own excuses.

Another thought occurs to me: I looked through the Simscave directory when I noticed it seemed rather small, and as it turns out, Simscave doesn't *HAVE* anything that CAN be removed, as Simscave doesn't appear to be hosting any files. So this would be pointless, anyway.

Well, he used to have a page as Eric DeMars and joined the Animal Army under that name too - so its not any more hidden than Thoma$$' name.

And if you only get the files if you donate, then its a paysite, that's why we have some of the booty files we do, right?

Okay, groovy.  :)
/me needs to get out more

No, you do not get objects by donating, you have to use virtual money... you are forced to post in the forum if you want objects as that is how you earn the simolinas to get the objects. I do not think he will be back there (simcave) as he has been outted! His secret i think he tried hard to keep from the people at his charmed site. The more he objects to simcave or gives notice to them sharing the site files the more of his members who will know he is a thief. At least that is my take on it. I also have not seen him back there at simcave.

Simolinas? He wasnt creative enough to come up with an original name. Phenetically that definetly says 'semolina', the flour used to make pasta...asshat ::)
Unless of course linnie meant simoleans

Oh, well that's different.  If its money earned by post count, then its not the same, since -anyone- can build up a post count - especially if it doesn't require meaningful comments.

That is the thing, if your posts do not have meaning, if hew thinks the only reason for a post is to get the simolians you get moderated and loose the simolians you did earn.
It is not easy for all people to get these objects i assure you. Anyone with any problem with texting, language barrier, kids who are immature, there are a number of reasons. His rule list is long. These fall under the hard to get files!

He made it so that you can't build your post count in the Welcome Board (in your own topic that gets made when you join) and the Games Board. That's where the majority of the post are though! No one wants to post in the other boards cause they are so boring. There are only so many things you can say about a character from the show or in the game. But...if you did post something relevent in your Welcome topic, you were give some simoleons. Not enough to purchase something though.

 /shrug

If the people who earned the items want to share them at simsCave, more power to 'em!
They don't belong in the booty though, do they? so I'm not sure what posting how tough they are to get, here, is going to accomplish.
Unless you're trying to get Pescado to host a dumbastard.mustbedestroyed domain for you or something...

Pickles they don't. If the files doesn't get paid for, then it shouldn't go into the booty. Unless it's a Daum must be destroyed type deal but that's something else.  ;)

And one of those mirrors has about 8 different backups every 2 hours, so they can kiss Pescado´s ass while trying (http://gi60.photobucket.com/groups/h19/7BKRK218RK/2cylon_muahaha1.gif)

As runswithscissors says, he makes it so you can't really get enough points to "buy" anything...anything you post is "redacted", I mean, he edits the hell out of it so if you have post a 200 character statement - and you would "earn" 200 points - he edits it down to two or three words and writes an angry public post in red sayinhg that what you said was irrelevant or not on topic, or he'll delete your posts entirely if he doesn't want any discussion or just if he's pissed at you that day.  Really the content on that site is very much unavailable and should be posted here in the sharing area.  You are so limited in what you can post that you can never gain enough points to obtain these items and if you question anything you are banned.  So again the items are unavailable.  You cannot even view the site if you are banned.  If he wants to run it that way, fine, but the point is that the items are not easily available or are hidden.  And many of them are available on other free sites but he does have some creators who create excusively for that site and that's what's been posted here.

You guys need to understand that we only share PAY files here.  Simscave has a hard to get files area for exactly those things. They will not be removed from there simply because he yells about it so if you want the files that badly go to Smscave and get them.  He sounds like a jerk but no matter how hard he makes it to get the files we will not be hosting here them unless he makes you pay actual money for them.  There are many file sharing sites.  This is only one of them and hard to find item are not our issue.

They are probably so hard to get so that he gets less grief for stealing stuff - but that's just -my- opinion based on prior dealings.

Still, he's still not a paysite.

I haven't asked you to host them here...they are at Simscave.  I havent' asked anyone to host them...I am just explaining to you as a former member of the site why people feel they should be more easily available.   I was banned from that site when Leo went thru' his membership roles and found those who were members at Simscave and other "pirate" sites.  I did not share the files - I already have multigigs of Charmed items - but I'm not going to fight with Leo over this and don't really care that I'm banned.

Right here you asked for us to post the items here.

Sounds like he needs a good spam-a-thon. hehe

Sorry, I mis-spoke.   I was just trying to support other posters as to why his files should be shared eventho' it's not a "paysite."

Looks like you forgot you weren't posting at the cave any more edejan.  Fess up lol.

Yup, you got me!  ::)