PMBD

I am really upset, I am really upset. Blacky Sims Zoo is selling recolors of free meshes from other Sims sites for money.

Because they know it is not legal the whole deal will be made bei PM

New Service ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???


http://www.blackypanther.de/include.php?path=forum/showcat.php&catid=35

Okay, slow down. Whose meshes are they selling? I had a quick look and didn't recognise anything at first glance, but I'll admit my German is a little rusty and that site is a nightmare to navigate. Can you show the original creators and the things BSZ is selling?

They don't sell the mesh, you have to send the mesh, they will recolor it and you will have to pay if you like it - they are going to send you a picture of the recolor and if you want it you have to pay

hi

we don't know exactly if they already done it, but so far i know, they propose to make recolors of free meshs and it will cost from1€50 to 3€50, they do the whole thing by email so nobody can see what is going on >:(

I suppose it would be something like going to a tailor. Except that it's illegal! I read a bunch of crap on that site about how they 'Needz more monies'. Hopefully they won't get it and they'll FOAD, but methinks they're scamming for more money without really needing more money to run that thing they call a site. Speaking of which they need to hire a secretary or an interior decorator or someone to organize their site all pretty. That damn thing is unnavigatable, even in English.

and some member have tryed to tell them that's illegal, they closed the thread

it is just a shame - for what they do need all the money? They beg and beg .... it is scaring - you go on this site and what you get to see at first is the begging for money

hm I really guess they want to have nice vacations on Hawaii?

I just checked how long it needs to bring a simple picture into the game - not even a minute with the SimPe Wizzard - 1 Euro for a picture? Hm a lot of money in one hour ....

So if I understand correctly you can send them any mesh, original creator's TOU be damned, and they'll sell it back to you? And this is being done done under the table because some people objected to it? That's not a shame, that's disgusting. And I haven't got the slightest idea what to do about it. Anyone feeling creative?

Wait, they're charging for custom recolors??  And people are actually GOING for that?  Recoloring isn't exactly rocket science.   Nor does Blacky's crew impress me as being particularly great recolorers. I guess there ARE suckers born every minute.

It's so stupid that I'm too busy laughing to be outraged.

A con is still a con, even if the people who are falling for it are saps. Don't blame the victims. But yeah, it is rather stupid. I don't know how to do recolors, but if I wanted something custom made I learn how to do it myself. It's so weird that people would rather pay up than learn a new and potentially rewading skill... Then again, I'm not taking any plumbing or electricity classes either, so meh.

Roxelane, I've been to that link you provided a couple of times now, but I can't seem to find anything that points to what you explained. Sorry if I'm being dim, but how did you find out exactly? Have they removed a thread offering this 'service'? Do you know of anyone who used it? I'm so confused it hurts.

I hate the popup at that site. I've tried to avoid it with firefox and stuff and I still get the popup ad. Therefore, no Blacky's for me! ;D

Oh for fuck sake, if they can get people to go for that then good on them for having a forum full of idiots. Just straight up ask for money like everybody else. Gawd.

Anybody lazy enough to pay someone to recolor a mesh for them gets what they deserves. IMO.

I thought the point of PMBD was to... you know, destroy paysites? Stop crime? Fight wrongdoers with our vigilante-style brand of poetic justice?

Fair enough though. It is a rather stupid way to part with hard-earned cash. But we've been trying to show people who would pay for pixels the light for ages, why is this any different? We've become so used to the idea of people paying for pixels that it doesn't register as ridiculous anymore. I guess I don't see much difference between Peggy and Rose charging for hairs (and people paying for it) than BSZ charging for tailor-made recolours (and people paying for it). You might as well say that anyone lazy enough to pay for a sims 2 item instead of making it themselves deserves to get ripped off, which kinda goes against the spirit of this site, IMO.

Also, its not lazy - some people don't texture well, some don't build houses well, and some don't mesh well.  So, I figure the only fault here is greed.

Except that they're basing it on people's work that would rather be caught in TSR underwear than selling any of their work?

Nono - you misunderstand - the greed is charging so much to recolour - not for getting someone else to do it for you [though paying is admittedly unwise].

Could be amusing if lots of people ordered recolours and then when Blacky's send the preview of the recolour to you mail them back, tell them it's crap and send them a copy of the EULA, might waste a bit of their time  :P

That's pure genius. Except for one thing: I bet you have to pay for the recolor up front and that the email is just so you can approve the recolor before you get the actual finished object. Anyone greedy enough to offer to recolor objects for a fee isn't going to take chances on getting their grubby, little hands on the actual monies. Nope. Getting the monies is the reason for doing it in the first place.
I say just send them a copy of the EULA- "disguised" as a recolor request- in the first place and be done with it.


ETA: When I said that's pure genius- I meant what TheMissus said.

That's disgusting.  BlackysSims2Zoo should have their arses squarely kicked.

You only can find the thread about it when you are registered. The payment will be made with Pay Pal

1 Objekt - 1,50 €
2-5 Objekte - 2,00 €
6-10 Objekte - 2,50 €
11-20 Objekte - 3,50 €

Nobody else will see or get the recolor, only the "customer" ..... so nobody knows how many people will use this new "service"

I hate this site....
the downloads are ugly, even the pay... I would rather die than downloading those CRAP!
This post is since some months on the site:
Please help the zoo!
We haven't got enough money yet to keep on offering free downloads in 2009.
Please support us - each Cent helps!
but now they decided to keep the site alive  >:(

These bitches use meshes from other sites... change them a little bit and the claim them as theri own...
WTF?
BlackysSimsZoo have to be DESTROYED!!!!!
Even I can make better sims 2 clohting

Ya you're right, every now and then my GAAHHH!! just gets the best of me. If I remember correctly isn't Blackys the one we were having the vote off with awhile back?

I don't remember that, but it's entire possible I missed the whole thing.

And I do agree, it is a silly thing to pay for. The people who send free meshes to pay for recolours aren't exactly innocent victims here, but they're still not as bad as the ones actually offering the service. You could order a recolour because you're no good at it, or don't have the time to learn how to do it properly, or really have no idea that it's a shady thing to do. There's shades of grey there. But there's only one explanation for actually offering to do it and that's pure and simple greed.

It was Blacky's, yes.

 I have tried to do meshes and colours on my own....I stink at it LOL !  But I would never dream of paying someone to do it for me... that is insanity!

I am pretty sure - if you ask the creator friendly if they will make a recolor .... - I really guess the most will make it - and not for money ...

Well I stared to mesh this year - I am not perfect at all by now, ok - don't use free 3D's and make all by my self - but I made some recolors because people asked me for them. I also made recolors from other meshes for people they asked me for doing this - and I NEVER was thinking of money when I did this.

When I create something - doesn't matter if I build a house, make recolors or a new mesh - and I offer it for free - I do not want anyone to make money with something I just made because it is my hobby to do this and I just share it with other people for free.

Mysticvelvet from tsr does a lot of recolors for blackys.  I'm surprised tsr hasn't taken over blackys yet.

@ the official german site (I am there because I'm german) one of the mods from blacky (her name is Shadow76)  is recruting new custom creator for blacky.... a few of their work looke okay, but some of the creations look as they were taken from maxis and claimed as their own...?!
(http://diesims.de/pages.view_screenshot.asp?img=images/albums/497225-SandraSpatz.jpg)

Omg. I have no words for how shitty that is. And who could be so stupid to pay for that?

all I see is a red X      ???

 that  happens all the time at MTS2.....often creators will do reclours for people...because it is their hobby and they do it for the love of the game. Sometimes a creator will say no to a request, if they have too many tho...and I can understand that.

I am german and I know my english is far from beeing perfect ... but I try to post here - hope the most will get what I want to say  ;D

 I can't accept what Blacky is doing .... we had trouble before with her site in spring. She postet one of her begging posts at our updates (I'm at a4s as kitten). My meshes are not great but I am proud of them. - All made by my self

So I can't understand she only makes it for money - whatever she does - she want money ....  I am pretty sure BSZ will become a real pay site soon or Blacky will move to TSR

Lol. Blacky can go to TSR. It's not like BSZ has anything worth paying for in the first place. I'm also not so sure dumbass would take Blacky. They don't really have a big enough following to make it worth dumbass' while.