PMBD

http://www.jassims.com (http://www.jassims.com)

I searched, but didn't find a mention of this one.  What I find really interesting is that this creator also uploads to TSR, but it looks like some of the the stuff available there for free are "donation" at the jassims.com site.  Like this "army girl" set:  http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/jassims/downloads/sims2/sets/clothing/760786/ (http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/jassims/downloads/sims2/sets/clothing/760786/)

Think he/she will become an FA soon and "double dip"?

I certainly haven't seen that site before. If I click on the "Buy now this set" button ( :P ) all I get is a blank page.

That costume on the "kostumes" page looks familiar too. Second row, first from the left, the hot pink harem-like outfit. I'm pretty sure I've seen that before.

I clicked on one donation set and it was 2.00 USD

I think someone mentioned this in one of the threads around here. These greedy bitches are really getting on my last nerve.

Does TSR even allow that 'double-dipping' deal some of these people have going on? Knowing how they operate I'd think they'd be livid to find out they were getting away with 'their' shiny monies.

They must know, and they must allow it. Hell look at Liana. They probably have a rule saying if you upload it to TSR you can't upload it anywhere else to be paid for elsewhere.

I`ve two of the dresses in my game, but they wasn`t pay...I think from sloppyjunk

You mean you recognise something from that site too? I've checked and I've definitely got that female harem costume in my game, and I've had it for months too. Can't for the life of me find out where I got it though. This one I mean:

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b33/cosmic_charly/7c980f3d.jpg)

Does that look familiar to anyone else? It could just be paranoid about all the stealing that's been going on...

That looks almost like something from All About Style or Parsimonious, but not sure. And no, I don't think you're paranoid at all, I'm betting they'll rip someone off like Nouk or Cala next.

They do have recolors of my hairs on that site, and I don't allow recolors or retextures or anything really on paysites. I have sent them a email and told them they would have to remove it, but they can upload it to a free site.

I wonder if they will listen? Hopefully, they'll just go free and not have to remove anything.  :)  I can hope.

Look at her meshes page. Someone is ripping Lianasims' meshes off :) I recognized the shoes right away.

I don't know about the clothing as the only Arabian themed outfits that I know of is at Parsimonious here (http://www.parsimonious.org/fashion2/themes/theme_1199598275.shtml).

A couple of things look incredibly familiar to me - but I'm not sure where from. 

Oh, heh. Yes am are aware of this paysite and the fact that she has her donation sets free at TSR - was posted in the shopping list thread a couple of days ago. Rather amusing in fact.

Regarding the similarity with the content..I am almost completely sure that the eyeshadow she has up is actually by Helaene. Helaene's intense eyeshadows I believe. Have recoloured that eyeshadow myself for personal use and its very distinctive looking. Would have to properly compare them to be sure though.


Yes I was going to bring this up with you next time I stalked to you on msn, but do you allow edits of your meshes on TSR? (http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/jassims/downloads/sims2/sets/794801/) Jass has also uploaded it there, and did not want to kick up a fuss about it if I was mistaken, but my dear rubbish memory does recall you saying no TSR at all..

I knew I saw it here somewhere.  :) I was a little confused when I searched and couldn't find it.  :D

The hell?

http://www.elynia.it/costumes-sims1.html

Is it just me or does that look a whole lot like the first donation set from jassims?  ???

Why yes, it does. Emailing the site owner (as a freesite) now.  >:(

Thay're talking about it at Simscave too. (http://www.simscave.com/ferris/index.php?topic=5410.0) I don't know what the hell is going on here but it looks like she's jut grabbing stuff from all over the net. I didn't see credits anywhere. That's just low.

Edit: would this be a good time to notify the Animal Army over at Insim? If I understand correctly this is sort of what they do.

Wow, that's just low really.

Well spotted devilfish - that is just so low  >:(

I note there is no guestbook on the paysite either  :(

It was someone it Simscave who spotted it first. I've been looking around though and many of the outfits are just recolours of other people's meshes. Downloaded a few of them too and obviously, no credit was given. What a mess  :-\

Once again, as if it needs to be said, a T$R creator shows no ethics, morals or true creativity. How 'bout we nail her hide to a wall or would that just be too ugly for words?

I'd say that you're right on there Paden.
I looked through her stuff; over at TSR and matched up her different sets.  In some cases, her donation sets are a blending of different sets from her TSR things.  I finally found that she does have links but, only when you go to the items, singularly.  When you get them as a set though, there is no mention of any meshes being required, so I'm assuming that she is including the meshes with the sets.
The purple set that she has up for donation for $2.00, uses a mesh from Nouk as the base.
(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk30/blessedagain06/Jassims/Purpleset.jpg)
The second outfit on the left, is the one using Nouk's mesh.  You can find the singular item here (http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/jassims/downloads/sims2/SetID_771410/), it will be the one on the top of the list.  When you go to her site though, there is no mention of having to acquire meshes from any other creator, as you have all noticed already.

So she's selling my mesh? Niiiice.
I got an answer, but she pretends she doesn't know english and only answered in Turkish.
Anyone want to translate it?

"hello nouk...I don't no speak english soryy...

anladığım kadrıyla meshlerinin recolourlarını ücretli satmama izin
vermiyorsun...
zaten ücretiz sunuyorum ve zaten mesh olarakta senin sayfana
yönlendiriyorum...
ama ben onu bile istemiyorum diyosan kaldırırım sorun değil neticede benim
bir kaybım olmaz:)
cevabını bekliyorum ona göre hareket edeceğim...saygılar jass..."

Sorry, I can't help you with the Turkish but, I did send you a PM with a file that may help.

Enjoyed kadrıyla meshlerinin recolourlarını selling fee does not allow ... Are already ücretiz offer and is already the anointing significantly higher and your sayfana yönlendiriyorum ... But i blessed him even diyosan i do not want clear is not a problem in the end of my kaybım:it will not be defense ) i expect to him i will move ... jass respects ... " 
This is the best I can get for you. Nouk

The hell? I translated that reply to Dutch, English an French and could understand enough to know that she knows damn well what you're talking about, English or not. The general gist of that message still eludes me, but I think she's saying she provides a link to you on her page already and that she will solve the problem. I've sent it to a Turkish friend though, let's see what she says it means. (Could be a couple of days though)

The best I could come up with is:


The recolour of meshleri with dığ kadrı with time is earner satmama Allow . . .

I offer fee path and
canal
. . . operating olarakta already to your page already

But mole did not even want it I bring appellation up It is not problem The consequence is not : ) my
one
kayb

I expect the answer I will do action accordingly to him . . . Respects jass.

Anyone can run it through babelfish. If that's what you're going to do, don't bother posting it.

Well, until we get an email back we'll just have to keep looking for someone who can translate it. If it does get translated, let me know so I can tell my friend she doesn't need to bother anymore.

I find it interesting though that; despite her "bad english", she was able to figure out what Anouk wanted in her e-mail, and then give a reply to it.  It just sounds like she's just hiding behind the language excuse, and trying to ignore the fact that she is doing something very wrong.  I'm willing to bet that if something of hers was used; without credit, she would probably be able to figure out how to write a letter in English, to notify that individual that it's her things being used. 

You know, that's exactly what I said. It's just an excuse if you ask me. That first 'sorry don't speak the Englsih' phrase just sounded... I don't know. Fake. The ouble 'y' in sorry especially. Now I'm not saying she speaks perfet English or anything, but replying in Turkish smells like a cheap way to buy time to me. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

On the paysite now the winter hair is now giving a link to the mesh Nouks winter hair on mod the sims2.

Not enough, I want it gone.

I think they know exactly want you want Anouk.  Your terms are clear.  Taking the piss springs to mind on this one.

It's pretty obvious. She knows enough english to download stuff from 100% english sites and go through the upload process on TSR. I told her to remove everything based on my work from her site, and if I wanted my stuff to be sold I would have done it myself.

These are originally by Helaene, and interrestingly, these were also ripped off by Elmazz on TSR. http://www.jassims.com/index.php/makeup/eyeshadow

God freaking dammit. She's just taking everything now, isn't she? I'm starting to think it'll be easier to make a list of freesites she didn't steal from.

She appears to be just grabbing whatever she feels like it and putting it up on her site, as her own work.  Is it time to call the Animal Army in, yet?  This is just a little thief, who must figure that the free sites are just there for her to steal from and that no one will say anything.  Well, she's very wrong about that!  She has used a few different artists work, as a base to her things, so I'm wondering how many other TOU's she has ignored to put her site up, besides Anouk's?   

lol  While she linked to Peggy's donate mesh, she also included it!  She also didn't properly credit phelena and tirimisu for their rugs, only echo.

It's possible she just doesn't know proper ettiquete, since she seems to including pay and free meshes willy-nilly, but that's still no excuse.

I've made a post over at the Animal Army HQ: http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?p=1444287#post1444287
The more people know about this, the better.

In her donation packs she has meshes included in her donation packs from:  Pinksuki2K from MTS2, Lianna from her site and from SimChic.  I wonder what Lianna would say about the fact that this girl is including her meshes, with no credits at all. 
In the free area, she has different meshes but, does not create anyone for them.  She does credit some creators on the TSR site for the meshes and when you look at the items; outside of the sets, you will find links but, her site is another story all together.  I find it hard to believe that she is not aware of the fact that credit should be given, when she's been on TSR since Apr.2006 and uploading things there.  She basically seems to have forgotten her etiquette, the second she opened up her own site. 
When you download something from the site, mesh or item, there is not one mention of any other creators in the files.  She generally gives the impression that she did everything that is on there, IMO.

I put some very simple sentances in a Turkish translator, like 'remove stuff based on my work from your site' etc. Also told her in English I don't believe for a moment she can't read English.
Got a 100% Turkish email back, and I'm pretty sure it means she won't take anything off.

That sucks Nouk.  Just sucks.  Hopefully someone will help. I don't have any idea where to go from here.

Sent her another email, same content basically. I don't support paysites, don't want my creations on a paysite.
The email I got I think says that I don't have any authority or right to have my stuff removed from her payset or site, and that she's only selling her own creations. Also says she really does not know English well.
*edit* she removed the hairs, but not the item in the payset. Will send a picture of it.

Pardon my tin foil hat moment here, but it sounds like one little bitch is being encouraged by Thomass to lash out at anyone that could have read the Coconut Chronicals. There are free creators here, and so far she's ripped Nouk off so who is next? It sounds like the kind of shit he'd do, tell her, "go ahead, give them some butthurt, make them mad. I'll cover your ass, remember, you work for T$R, the most powerful and profitable paysite on the net."

Too bad we can't sic someone on her that speaks perfect Turkish to tell her to knock it off or else. Or else what? I dunno, that one has always been kinda vague. The little bitch has no idea about what respect is, not at all.She certainly is a credit to T$R, though. "Rip everyone off that you can," seems to be their motto. Is it time to take it to EA or would that even accomplish a damn thing?

Well for now asking normally seems to work. But as soon as all those creators start asking normally too? Almost nothing is credited, and alot of stuff is just edited from other creators with no credit to the original creator as well.

What about putting in a notice to your MTS2 page about Jassims being a thief? Or in a readme file with the mesh.

Then I'd doubt they'd have the TSR logo proudly displayed on her page with a link to the site. It's all speculation in any case. Anything could be true. Until I see proof to the contrary, I'm willing to believe she's just a tieving paysite owner who wants to make a quick buck, just like all the others.

Will see if the pay items is changed/gone after my last mail.

She never answered and never removed it. I sent a new email, telling her once again to stop selling things based on my work, that I know she understands me , and that she should have some honour and remove it NOW.

That bitch took some of elynias costums and put them "as her own creation" for pay
the original: http://www.elynia.it/costumes-sims1.html
http://www.jassims.com/
(latest pay pack)
even I can see that she has stolven elynias work -.-

Devilfish already mentioned that, Bad_Kitty, just a page or so back.   :)

I think I remember seeing this site when it was first starting to come up a few months back.  It broke my browser, first of all, and when the site did finally decide to work, there was no possible way to even navigate around, much less download anything from there.  At least we all know the reason why now.  Obviously she meant to sell everything previewed on that site in the first place (which is free on TSR for the time being from what I'm hearing).  Can't say it's unbelievable for someone to do that, because it's too commonplace now days.  I just hope the issue of "borrowed" content on that site gets settled, one way or another.

wait a minute i know this bitch! >:(

a couple months ago i got a pm from somebody that some girl was steeling my sims art.
so i looked up at the forum that was btw Turkish to and i saw my pictures and from others to and even a complete translation of the story Gone witch was made by Romyhors at S2C.
to bad i can't remember the forum name :-\

also i see she still uses the same model like the one she used to have as a avatar on that Turkish forum. ::)

I seem to notice that a lot of paysite owners tend to hide behind the language barrier excuse whenever confronted. 

What is this, though, their way of fighting the paysite vs freesite debate?
Steal freestuff, put it up on their sites for sale, without credit whatsoever?

And they say what we do is wrong?
Everything here was paid for, and has the credit given to the correct person/site.

I'm disgusted.  When you think they can't get any lower, Thoma$$ buys dynamite.

Has anyone contacted the other creators to get in contact with her? And maybe we should look at GOS for people that speak turkish. I know this online game I used to play called popomundo had a lot of turkish players, maybe one of us could pop back in over there and ask one of them to help.

But I do agree with Pes though. Babelfish doesn't help. Nine times out of ten you could put "Remove my mesh please" and it will turn into "Sex for ajfguiee"

Is nouk asking him/her to take them off TSR mini site too?  I may be looking at them on cache but nouk's hairs are still there.

Isn't  Dincer Turkish?

(Please don't hit me).

I'm not suggesting that you enlist him.  But he might come up with somebody to translate.

If jasssss has anything on TSR that's taken from Nouk, I'll be glad to make a fuss over there. 

jassims set 58

http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/jassims/downloads/sims2/sets/

I tried to sign the guest book but it won't accept my sign in.  It was really peeing me off seeing people write what gorgeous work.  Of course it's bloody gorgeous it is nouks.

I left a comment. I give it three hours before it's removed  ::)

This really sounds more like an issue you should take up with that "Animal Army" thing.

I already did: http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=98502  ;)

I figured posting a thread there would be enough. Or should I PM one of them?

It sounds like something that should be taken up with a sledgehammer. This has to be the most blatant disregard of creator TOS I've ever seen.

It says on the sticky in their forum to pm them if you need help. It may be that it has to come from nouk.

That's what I thought. I'm not directly involved so I wasn't sure whether to PM someone. It's just that so many creators have been ripped off here, I don't even know where to start. I've heard some of them have been contacted already, but a list of all creators would really help organise things. If all the creators band together it may be a little easier to turn on the pressure.

selam ben jass ingilizce bilmediğimi söyledim buna bile inanmadınız çok yazık...!
download jasset 13 = http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/10/1/2123683/set13_www.jassims.com.rar
(http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/10/1/2123683/s.13.jpg)
(http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/10/1/2123683/Ads%C4%B1z.jpg)
(http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/10/1/2123683/1.jpg)
costumes= http://www.wetseal.com/catalog/thumbnail.jsp?categoryId=106&subCategoryId=199
harem pants = http://www.kaftan.com.tr/list/list.asp?ktgr_id=379
(http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/10/1/2123683/2.jpg)

ve nouk'un kendisine ait sandığı benim meshim...
(http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/10/1/2123683/3.jpg)
(http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/10/1/2123683/4.jpg)
bunun tek bir nedeni var ; ozaman mesh yapmayı bilmiyordum...

mesh yapmayı öğrendikten sonra kendi sitemi açmaya karar verdim...

ve kimsenin meshini parayla satmadım !!!

websitemi şuanda düzenlemeye aldım çok yakın bir zamanda tekrar yayınlayacağım...
ne bundan önce nede bundan sonra çalıntı hiçbirşeye yer yok!!!
yanlışlıkla yaptığım bazı hatalar var ama bu kimseyle alakalı değil ve hiçbirinizi ilgilendirmez ve ve ve en önemlisi bunun adı asla hırsızık değildir!!!
kimsenin texduresine ihtiyacım olmayacak kadar iyi tasarımlar yapıyorum... sizlerede sadece tebrik etmek düşer...
saat gecenin 4'ü ve ben bu haksızlığa adaletsizliğe bir son vermek için bu saate kadar bunlarla uğraştım...
ilk ve son açıklamamdır benimle uğraşmayın...!!!

ayrıca nouk bu mesajım sana...
bana email attın saçlarımı kaldır dedin hemen kaldırdım....
ne parayla sattım nede meshi bana ait dedim herkez gibi recolour yapmış yayınlamıştım...
bana şerefli ol çağrısı yapan sen, heryerde mailimi sanki kötü birşey yazmışım gibi yayınlamakmıdır şerefli olmak?
ve sanki dediğini yapmamışım gibi  olayı abartmakmıdır  onurlu olmak?

Oh great!  Anyone speak Turkish here?  Jassim, if you're going to come on this site, you are going to have to try to speak some English, otherwise this is totally pointless!

At least learn how to run things through a translator into English. Obviously you don't care and are just trying to piss people off.

I tried finding something that would at least translate some of it but, the translators just want to do English to Turkish.  If Jassims really wants to say something, then she can bloody well find one of them herself, and use it.  As for her pics, I'm guessing she's trying to say that she got the stuff, somewhere else.  Do I believe it?  Not likely, since she was trying to rip of Nouk's mesh and I really don't believe a line of bull like that anyway!

edit: typo

you translate website link? Idon't no ???

http://www.stars21.com/translator/turkish_to_english.html
http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/result.shtml

thank's

I think you do know....this site is 100% English and you figured it out whore. Hope you know what that means. You just typed your reply in perfect fucking English. I have a feeling TSR has you on their leash, and what a good dog you are.

Don't be a chicken and take the stuff off. Send Thomas an email to take the stuff you used off as well. You can read this, go do it. This inaction don't exactly look good on you and it's here for everyone to see on a very public website.

RE: #66:

malumunuzdur ki sen are istimal diğer yaratıcı parça. ve , sen are fiyat istemek için onları. o bkz. be yanlış. sen lüzum -e doğru çıkarmak belgili tanımlık memnun --dan senin yer , yapmak senin kendi iş ve durmak çekici inanç için bir şey sen did değil yapmak.

Now do you understand?

Jassims, I'll say this in very simple words, though we all know you can understand English.

You can not sell these files. Ever. EA owns them. You can not put your name on other people's work.
You are an ass.

mustluvcatz, can we have a translation, so that we can understand what you just said?
I'm also noting that despite having access to a translator now, she has decided to just leave the board and not even attempt to communicate with anyone, any longer.

Damn, I really wanted MOAR FIGHT with her too!

I think Devilfish has a friend that speaks or understand Turkish, maybe she can get her friend to help us out.

Basically, I just told her that she needs to stop claiming other people's work as her own. That she knows she's doing it and that she knows she's wrong. Also, that she's wrong for charging for cc. AND, that she needs to remove any content that isn't hers and hers alone.

Pretty much what she's already been told. But, if someone wants to play the "I don't speak English and can't understand what you're saying" game, I'm more than willing to say it in a language they can't claim to not understand. (BTW: Translating what I wanted to say was a bitch! Picky, picky language and/or translator.)

As for her pic-filled post? You don't need to run that through a translator. She's claiming to have bought the meshes and used Maxis meshes. Okay, she might have for some of the content on her site. But, that doesn't explain Nouk's content being there. One of her other posts was to Nouk- she's still denying that she used anything of Nouk's....and I don't think she's removing it. (If I'm wrong about any of this, maybe Devilfish's friend will come along and help out.)

I just tried to go over to her site and I'm now coming up with a 404 cannot locate error.  Can someone else give it a try, just to make sure my computer isn't acting stupid?
www.jassims.com

Edit because I have a stupid computer:  Never mind, the darn computer is now letting me back on.

It's still coming up for me, Titan.  Cleared my cache and everything, so it's still up.   :-\

ETA:  I see it's working for you, too. 

Well, she's changed the front page of her site around.  She's just showing one of the donation sets and the rest of the page is those photos, that she posted up here.  She has messages and it looks like she is comparing everything and trying to show that the meshes that she is using, are really her's, including Nouk's.  She has no intention of taking any of it down and in fact, she appears to be trying to lie her way out of this instead.

I went to bed again and missed it all.  Why is it a comment in their guestbook always draws them out?  Well at least now we know what we are dealing with. A total Fuckwit.

That'll teach me to sleep, I missed the drama.

I do know someone who has Turkish as a first language, but she's very busy and I don't really know when (or even if) she'll answer. I've sent all those bits of text but we shouldn't be holding our breath. If I don't hear back from her soon, I'll just pop into the nightshop tonight and ask someone. My whole neighbourhood is Turkish so I can probably get help if I agree to buy enough Red Bull and bubblegum.  :D
Although I think it's obvious what she's saying now: can't touch me, wasn't me.

As for jass up there claiming not to know about internet translators, how did she miss the translator on her own fucking page? Did she not build the damn site or what?

 She probably stole it and claimed it as hers.

Has anyone taken the chance of reporting her site to the hosting provider, explaining the situation?
I won;t say we're lowering ourselves down to TSR's level, but if this freak wants to cover her ears and pretend she can't hear us, then what else is there to do?

So it's her own?  Didn't she say she did use the pants mesh on TSR? What the hell for then, if she has her own, wich is exactly the same?

(http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/10/1/2123683/6.jpg)
(http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/10/1/2123683/7.jpg)
(http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/10/1/2123683/5.jpg)

Look, it should be clear by now that nobody here on PMBD

a) speaks Turkish and knows what the hell you're saying. (Translation: no speak turkish! not understand!)
b) has any faith in your word. (Translation: you lie!)

Sorry, but nothing you post is going to make us lay off you. Please make at least an effort to speak English or stop posting. It's absolutely no use.

Thanks for the tutorial, but how is recoloring something of Helga's without permission better than recoloring something of Helaene's without permission?

Maybe she's trying to say she's getting the skins from the same site as free creators and doing different backs to them?

FFS, speak English.

So in short:

clothing - "I used the same source website" - plausible
hair - was removed
eyeshadow - "I used from Helga instead of Helaene" - same thing
mesh - "I did not use your mesh but mine, except on TSR I used your mesh instead" - weird and how can we even check this?
everything on TSR - "I will not remove it untill I become SA or FA" - make a damn effort to pm some mod then. You have used someone elses work and if you really wanted to fix it, you would have at least tried.

Things that need to be fixed:
- did you get Helga's permission?
- pm a mod at TSR or something, how hard is it

Now that should be readable

sorry,  I am trying to follow this but yesils post on the previous page is empty for me.  But whatever she wrote is immaterial, just excuses,  Theft is theft no matter how you colour it.  The fact is Nouks meshes are on his/her website they need to go.  The meshes on TSR definately need to be removed.  What is going on there, if stupidity is stopping you that isn't going to change when you are a SA or FA.  So go do the right thing Yesil and the english you need to know for when you report back is.

II have removed your work from both sites.  I will not steal anymore

What I want to know is how she/he knew we were discussing this? Could this be another of Atwat's brainwashed minions causing more havoc for Thoma$$ or is this his stupid idea of trying to get us to stop doing what we do with 'Hey, if you steal, we steal!' ::)

When I first saw it I thought it was a thomas ploy at confusing the booty.  The rule that this site has about only pay things being in the booty.  If the things on her site went in the booty, in reality the stuff in tsr free area would be in the booty.  As well as Nouk's hairs.

Or she just checked her stats and saw a bunch of incoming links from this forum and Simscave, not to menion the Animal Army HQ.

Surely she's not that intelligent :D No I jest, I wouldn't be surprised at all if thats what she's been doing. Has there been any threads of this sort at InSim? Would be interesting to see if she's trying to cover her back everywhere that suspect her of wrong doings.

I made a thread at the Animal Army HQ over at Insim and she's doing the same over there, same post an everything. She probably would've copy/pasted it on Simscave too if it wasn't down.  ::)

Damn, I live in a country with many Turkish people but why isn't even one of them a friend of mine?  ::)

Anyway, one of those Halloween (?) costumes that was on Eynia's site and offered by jassims, is now also on Christa's Sims Boutique (http://www.christassimsboutique.com/home.htm , scroll down). Free content, but I really don't get it anymore. Who created what first?

The hell?

This is a nightmare. I already lost track ages ago.  :-\

I figured the same thing last night regarding Sims Cave, when Tomato mentioned that she had posted over at AA Headquarters.  Jass hit the sites pretty quick with these posts.  As for her checking to see where the links were coming from, I don't think she's doing that.  If she was, she would have been over at GOS also, with her silly post.
No, I figure that she does understand enough English to get around on the English forums, and can figure out what is being said.  It's either that, or she is getting some help to get around the forums, from someone who can read and understand both languages.

Well, here's an interesting thing.  I was going to jump over to her mini-site; on TSR and found that she has taken her site down and TSR no longer has a Jassims listed as an artist.  Her site was located here (http://www.thesimsresource.com/artis.../SetID_771410/), but as you can see, it's not coming up now.  Want to bet that she decided to change her name and will be coming back up with the same items but, a different artist name.
As for her paysite, the donation packs are no longer available to download but, she just has that comparison post that she has up here, on her front page instead.

I did a search on TSR all that is there now is a few masks and the rugs.

It would seem that she is transferring her downloads over to the Jassims.com site.  The men's things and rugs are there already.  The way I always understood it though, TSR normally keeps the downloads of artists, even after they leave.  That doesn't seem to be happening here though and most of her things have been taken down.  It would seem, that she was in fact able to get the things taken down, despite her declaring that it was impossible unless she was a SA or FA.  Nouk's creations have been taken down from TSR and the purple donation set; that was using Nouk's mesh for one of the outfits, doesn't seem to be available any longer.  The costume donation set; that has Elyna's meshes, no longer has a donation button available, but the picture is still there(part of her declaration of innocence). 

hiç bir şeyi gözlerinden kaçırmayan arkadaşlar;
hayret bunu nasıl kaçırdınız? şimdi amacınız emeğe saygı ise benim emeğim için elınıa'dan kim hesap soracak?

http://www.elynia.it/quotidiano-everyday-donna3.html

You know Jassims, every time someone mentions what you have done, you have posted pics to attempt to prove that person wrong.  It is bloody amazing on how well you can figure out what is said, despite your refusal to communicate in English but you sure can read it pretty good, can't you?!  Since you can figure out what I'm saying then read this well
You stole other people's work and now you are attempting to hide it by doing this whole "can't speak English bit".  It's been done before, you are not the first, but you sure are the lamest.  Now go take a hike and take the stolen creations down, you theif!!

Birdie told me she was banned, for taking meshes from TSR, altering a bit and then uploading to her own site, among other things. What a mess. I'm not going to check all her meshes against TSR meshes, but if they banned a high producing creator like that, it probably happened.

Karma.  Whatever happened Nouk I am glad your meshes were taken down. 

Well, that does explain why all of her creations have been taken down from TSR.  I did wonder about it and what had occured to get them off of that site, since they don't normally let artists take their creations, after they've been submitted. 
It just shows that she's made a habit of stealing other peoples work and claiming it as her own. 

Yup, that does explain it all. Although I can't help but feel like she actually, genuinely believes she's innocent. Which, of course, is no excuse. It just amazes me, the lengths people will go to to convince themselves of their own innocense even when they're clearly in the wrong.  ::)

She doesn't get that she can't alter a mesh just a tiny bit and claim it as her own, does she? Can she even understand for her to be able to claim credit for making a mesh that she has to do it from the first idea on up til it's actually made? What a dumbass. She reads English well enough to know that we thinks she's a stupid bint, so why can't she reply in it? DUH! Sounds like someone that goes through life with a big "L" on her forehead and a mashed-up nose from trying to walk through closed doors.

Maybe she posts in Turkish cuz of the brain damage from walking into all those doors  ;)

ok I think I may be paranoid because of this and sims cave happeining together, but I remember jassims join date being the 17 April 2006 now that it is closed her join date is april 2008.

http://forums.thesimsresource.com/member.php?u=2110275

Simscave isn't closed? It was temporarily offline.

sorry nouk I didn't mean sims cave closed,  I meant jassims account closing.

I got the whole "Necromancy is bad, m'kay" but I thought I'd translate since no one else was able to.


Translation for the email : From what I understand you do not want your recolours to be sold, I don't have them for sale and I have the meshes linked back to your site.  But even if you do not want me to do any of this then I will remove it.  I will not lose anything by it.  I am waiting for your reply and will act accordingly.

Rest of translation: Hello, this is jass I told you all that I do not know english, I am sorry to hear that you do not believe me (links to several items) This is the mesh that I made which nouk thinks is hers.  There is only one reason for this - after I learnt how to mesh I decided to open my own site and I haven't sold anyone's mesh!  Not before and not after, there is no room for theft! Right now I am just organising my site and I will be opening it soon.  I know I have made some mistakes in the past but this is not in regards to anyone and more importantly it is not theft!  I am so good at textures right now that I do not feel the need for anyone elses work...All there is left to do is for me to thank you.
I have worked till 4 this morning, to remove this unfair (unlawful?) blame on me to end.
This will be my first and last explanation, do not bother me! (last part sounds kind of harsh but she's actually trying to say, please just let me be, I haven't done anything wrong)

Last small translation: Since you miss nothing my friends, how did you miss this? http://www.elynia.it/quotidiano-everyday-donna3.html.  If your whole reasoning is to respect creator wishes then why is nothing being done about all my efforts that is my work showing up on that site.
^^^
That is about it really.  It is like 3am for me so this is the best I could do at translating.  Nouk if you need to still ask her anything I'd be happy to write something to her for you. 

I am guessing that if she has little to no english she might not have known about how everything works, hence the making mistakes part.  In any case, it seems that whatever is there now (or will be organised) is just her own work.  I do not know whether this is true or not as I know nothing of meshes etc so someone will have to check them.

Issie, its only Necromancy if you don't bring anything new to the table, and as you said, you translated information for us that we wouldn't otherwise been able to understand this isn't Necromancy :)

Well that's interesting. She claims the site we thought she was stealing from was actually stealing from her? I'm a sceptic, but it's good to see what she actually had to say. Thanks Issie.

Thanks Issie!
Also, is that site really taking stuff from Jassims? Are the items taken from Jassims pay or free? Otherwise how can we check? (Filedates etc.)

I downloaded from both sites, to check the date last modified on both files. Jassims must have edited her costumes recently because on pretty much all of them, the last modified date was 12/1/2008. Elynia's was 9/28/2008.

What is weird though, at the top on Jassims website, the top portion says:


Or that's what a translator told me. So I'm not sure if by that, it means she had put them up on the website by 25, September. But based on the link that Issie has given us, I wasn't able to find anything on Elynia that is also on Jassims, besides the costumes. My eyes could have failed me though.

I'll send her an email right now and ask her.  Here's hoping she'll get it directly.

opsy edited email

Well the next thing would be to see if the costumes are the same texture files. And maybe if that other site has stuff from other sites as well. This community kinda sucks with the stealing.

Edit: probably shouldn't post emails here, Issie, even if it's on her site. You will need permission first.

What about the files that TSR was claiming that she stole?  I dont know anything about this but if she is saying she never stole anything, has she explained those files or can we find out anything about those.  If she can be proven to have stolen those files then it seems more reasonable to assume she is lying now as well.

 I have nothing of value to add to this; I just wanted to say how funny I think it is for T$R to get upset about anyone stealing anything.  :D

Jass = asshat.

What's the Turkish phrase for "you are a thieving asshat scumbag?"

Sorry to get back to you so late, I've been busy.  She wrote back to me on the weekend and told me that she didn't say that Elynia stole anything from her, she was just trying to prove a point about how most meshes look similiar in that post.  My turkish isn't great so I may have misunderstood something there (also difficult translating because she isn't writing it all properly).

Basicly when she first started meshing she did use other creator meshes and such but didn't know you couldn't do that.  Having no knowledge of english language and how the community works I can understand that.  In any case once she realised that she couldn't do that (ulkshan from TSR emailed her and told her something about it) she scrapped all the work she'd done and started over.  She claims that everything she has now on her website is hers only, anything else before that she didn't know about. 

She also removed the meshes that nouk was talking about so she doesn't understand all the anger towards her.  She states that it cannot be called theft when she didn't know. 

Well, it's still theft, but you could call it mitigating circumstances (did I use that term right?) Problem is she can claim whatever she wants and we'd have to take her word for it, and most of us have learned not to take anything paysite owners/possible thieves say with a bucketload of salt. But she did have a spot of trouble with ulkshan, so that much is true. Is anyone still asking her to take something down?

You could just tell her that the best thing for her to do would be to go free and cite some of the reasons why that's better (it's legal, you get more respect from the wider community, there's plenty free alternatives etc). If she's worried about everyone being angry at her, that would be a great step to show she's actually sorry. After what TSR did to her she may even concider it.

She can say that it isnt stealing because she didnt know but that doesnt really excuse anything.  If you want to open up a Business and sell goods to others then maybe it should be your responsibility to do a little research about how that sort of thing works.  People are angry because she went around the internet gathering up free pretties  and then took them home and threw them up on her paysite and now says "I didnt steal because I didnt know that getting free stuff and then uploading it to my paysite was wrong so I cant be held accountable for my actions." 

Once again, Paysite fail.  What is with these people that they seem to know enough to get thier sites up and running but not enough to know what is right and what is wrong.

You are a theiving asshat scumbag in turkish is sen are a hırsızlık asshat kir tabakası.

Sorry my turkish is a little off.  :'( I haven't spoken it in a while. We did it for a few months in primary school.

I tried to translate the message nouk (I didn't see it translated here) got with the help of a dictionary and translator. Mostly translator. I fixed most of the word if they were understandable but i'm afraid I couldn't do any better than what other people could do:


hello nouk.
 I don't no speak english sorry.
 anladığım kadrıyla mesh recolour paid sell permission vermiyorsun. In any case pay sunuyorum and in any case mesh olarakta thine page yönlendiriyorum. but mole him even istemiyorum diyosan pavement problem not eventually my one each loss impossible :) cevabını bekliyorum accordingly movement edeceğim.
from, jass.

It's nice of you to translate, but, please to be removing the red highlighting. The blinding red makes it almost impossible to read.

I don't really think it matters, unless you can read Turkish. :P

Hur, Pescado, I didn't even read the highlighted crap until you posted. Wth? That wasn't even a translation.

That sorta makes it more important that it be illegible. Otherwise this Jas person might notice the translation is incomplete.

Sounds like my former roommate, who forged my signature to take out a card in my name (giving her access to my student accounts), then said it didn't count as forgery because she didn't know.

Honestly, I don't know how people can think that counts. If ignorance was a good excuse, people could lie and say, "Oh, I didn't know rape was wrong, so it doesn't matter."

Sorry I just wanted to make it clear. And I don't know how to give it a different colour :L I will take off the highlighting. Also things that can't be translated are names of people and meshs.And some of the words aren't turkish.

And if you were calling the stuff I posted red highlighted crap. I kinda took it as a offence I tried my best.And that's all I can do.

cabbycat, don't take anything on here personally. It's just the internet. :)

Had a bad day that day. I forgot about it after an hour. :D

Is it just me or that Jass model looks a lot like ulkrhsn's?
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2gtzs75.png)

Not just you. 

Hrm. Ulkrhsn's model's nose a tad plumper on the bulb. Plus Jassims model doesn't seem to have the correct eyes. Besides that they look very similar and I'm willing to bet that either Jassims recreated Ulkrhsn's model, Ulkrhsn shared their model, or Jassims and Ulkrhsn are one and the same.

The second looks better made and rather a lot prettier than the first one.

Was there a picture posted? I don't see it...

Yeah. Was a side by side of Ulkrhsn's model and Jass's model. Could be your internet, or if you use firefox and adblock I think I read that if you block something from tinypic it blocks everything. Or maybe that was another photo host.

ZOMG! It's a japanese porn invasion!  :o *Don't click, don't click!*

So no one thinks aeris was talking to herself, the porn spam has been burninated by Pescado.

 ???
We had a porn bot attack? Holy crap!

Wow, Pescado's fast.

And he's claimed that they don't get through... :D

ROFL ::)

If anyones interested in what that message in Turkish said, it's along the lines of

"I understand the mesh does not allow recolours to be sold. We already charged and linked to your page. I do not want trouble, but eventually I remove the problem, my loss (it) is not. Waiting for the answer, will act accordingly. Regards...Jass"

My Turkish is terrible, but...I think that's along the right lines.
It's written quite strangely, though.  :-\