PMBD

A thread on going at GOS. (http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=6096.15)
Have a nice day and keep the good job. ;D
My best regards to Lord Darcy who is a fine gentleman.

There are already a couple of threads dealing with this, in this particular section of the forum.

(and FYI, Lord Darcy is a girl).

Plus, I know damn well I posted it here first.  Being the same Calalily and all.

I didn´t know, just wanted to help.
Thanks for the info.

I understand, but PMBD requires a bit of LURK MOAR.  It's pretty hard to miss me here.

I confess I don´t lurk in several foruns. I just thought the extra backup files we are all doing could be useful here. That´s all. To be honest I don´t take part at PMDB or MATY for one single reason: my english is not good enough and I was attacked at MATY a couple times by old trolls who knows me from old incidents at TS1 times when I started to fight paysites. Since I really have difficulties in communication I dropped the option to go to certain boards. For me is enough to help from time to time when I can.
So, I´m here just temporarily.
Thanks again.

Oh we couldn't care about language and spelling here - we like to have people from different countries.  We have people from all over the place - no one will have an issue with an translation problems, or poor English skills.  And fighting paysites in TS1 days will get you a pat on the back.  :D Just read a little more before you post a new thread, is all. We usually have the scoop on all paysite related stuff before anyone else.  ;)

Have some rum and cookies, daniyagami. PMBD isn't like MATY ;).

Also, your English looks pretty good to me.

I can also guarantee your english is tons better than my use of your native language.  So come back and have some rum.

For that matter, your english might be on a par with mine for typing, I have very bad typing/spelling/grammar skills.

I must confess I am pleasantly surprised. I never expected to be so welcome here :)
Thanks for the compliments, I am always trying to improve my english specially with verbs, verbs are my weakness.

I´m aplogize for the unuseful thread, I confess I didn´t know where to post and I was trying to not mess with other threads. I thought that open a new thread could be the best option since a mod could delete or lock if consider unuseful.

About the paysites, I was one of the first creators who abandoned Simfreaks when they went pay, I was a simfreak. (2001? I can´t recall anymore). Heather offered me 500 bucks to "buy" my creations, I refused and I demanded to her to remove from Simfreaks. She made a lot of money with that site and with naive creators who had no idea that she was making profits at their cost. Later I knew that she was paying them some sort of salary, I don´t know if is true.

After leave Simfreaks I went to the old board The Good, the Bad and the Rant to tell the whole story there (PMDB didn´t exist at that time) and it was a good ugly fight. I won, she removed my stuff and a lot of people started to question about paysites. I was helped by several friends in my fight, of course. I tried to have another site with some friends but it was too expensive at that time. I gave up and started some yahoo groups and became filesharing. I´m proud to say that I get mails from people asking about my TS1 stuff till today. File sharing was the best decision of my life. Full file sharing, I don´t control anything. I don´t care. I want people happy in have goodies for their games. I am blessed with the hability to make pretty things for this game, why not share?

I was off the community due personal real life issues since 2004 and when I came back last year I was surprised in see so many paysites and a lot of young people who thought that all custom content should be pay. I was like WTF? I loved when I discovered PMDB and when I read Heather´s threathning letters and that she couldn´t do anything against PMDB. Made me feel really good. She got what she deserved.

Then here I am again. :)
Thank you for make me feel welcome. Thanks for keep the booty going.

(edit for clarification)

Your English is amazing, dani. If you wouldn't have pointed it out, I wouldn't have guessed that it is not your native language.

It's best to chuck it in one of the old threads, because we don't have a mod.  And your English is pretty good. 

Good on you for chucking Simfreaks - it's nice to know there were people who refused to go along with it when it first got started.  :-*

 ;) Dani, it's a pleasure to see you..

I knew a woman called Intoxicating Chocolate or Nubian Doll, and I kinda wish she was still around the community like you are. Nubian Doll did what you did, she stuck it to some paysite owners good and proper, unfortunately she was doing it at a stage where the community wasn't ready. This Russian paysite owner screamed at her for using her stuff in screenshots without permission, so Deb turned round and recoloured her meshes and shared them freely.. the paysite owner went purple *chuckle*

Unfortunately, she was doing it before it was mainstream, so after a frustrating year or so, she eventually dissapeared.

Hey dani! Your english is really good. Probably better than mine.  :D Don't worry about spelling and such here. As long as it's understandable I think you will be okay. And from the looks of it you don't have the case of tl:dr either. Enjoy your stay and read the faqs!

By the way, am I the only one who goes back and reads the faqs sometimes? I found myself reading them to enjoy the pictures the other day.

No, no, you're not alone. I enjoy the pictures as well. Pictures entertain me. :P

Thanks for the compliments, I´ve been studying a lot to improve my english.
But at the time that I had to fight at the Good, the Bad and the Rant I didn´t even know what "cheesy" means :)
 I read all FAQs before I post, I hate to commit mistakes and make mess. I didn´t know this was an immoderated board. I enjoy the pictures too, specially the avatars. I love Hecubus avatar. It´s so awesome.
I remember Nubian Doll and there are still a lot of the "oldies" around, I kept contact with several people all this time, I have some good friends that I met through sims boards like Kiri, as example, another file sharing creations or CTNutmegger. We know each other for more than eight years by now. It´s a lot of time.
But I digress.
I think I am going to read around, there is a lot of things to read here.
Hm. I think I just became part of the crew of this ship. We have a huge ship to sink called TSR. ;)

Welcome dani :)
Even though I myself am what you would call a "sideline" pirate. I fully support everyone here. So have some REAL rum and enjoy the ride :P
That TSR ship has to fully go under some time, and right here, are front centre seats!  ;D

Daniyagami, it seems you didn't use the same username at MATY, so I can't be sure the details of what went on. However, you should know that at MATY, while there's a good bit of bickering and noob-poking, if someone states they are ESL, grammar mistakes are ignored. Unless you pull a Gali. That's just fun for everyone.  There are perhaps four ESL posters I can think of off the top of my head who I honestly have a really hard time understanding, but no one teases them.

Gawd, get over yourself, your English is just fine. There's many of us not officially anglophone and if it wasn't for spell check I would suck at literacy more often than I do.  I haz good grammar days and bad grammar days. Here we care about what you have to say not how you say it.

For what it's worth, thanks for the link to GoS thread. I haven't gotten adept at finding my way around there yet, so have only trolled the download pages. I clicked on the TSR link, and left a post that more than likely will get me banned over there. Since this is the first time I've logged in there in like 2 years, I guess that won't bother me. Anyone who would like the text of the post I left is welcome to it. Just ask. I copied it into a notepad page for posterity.

ETA: Ok, now I killed the thread at TSR. I posted a perfectly reasonable objection to Thomass' justification, and apparently prompted a swarm of responses. Thomass sort of didn't like what I said I guess. Anyway, now the thread is closed to comments. There was something in the comment about haters making new accounts but he couldn't have meant me, because that account has existed for about 4 years. Ever since The Sims 2 first came out. Actually, I had an account there with Sims 1, but I can't remember if this is the same account, or I made a new one when I got Sims 2.

He's gotta say something to save face - he certainly can't say "long time members" :P

is it just me or does his tone seem a little flustered *sniggers*

Sure he could.  I would love for him to screw up and put something like that, and watch the reaction of the foolish sheeple over there. 


Sherrie, I think you just made the understatement of the year there.  Little old Thomas, sounded like he was about to lose it there a couple of times. 

Furthermore, there was absolutely nothing in my post that said anything about paysites, period. The only reference I made to anything being illegal was the posting of confidential information. There was nothing in my post to identify me as a pirate, or member of PMBD. And he couldn't have recognized my username from here (or anywhere else), because it is different. In fact, TSR is the only place I still use that username.

Ohh I want to see what you posted that made him so angry. Hehe.

Ok, copy and paste:


I didn't copy Thomass' reply to that, but it was on the order that I should stop suggesting that average subscribers should fear that their own information was unsafe. The next person who responded said something along the lines that oh, wow, sharing anyone's real name was just so irresponsible. My post was number 18. I decided to respond to good ole Tom's justification, and when I hit the submit button it can up comments closed. I noticed that there were now 24 comments though. I think I stirred up the membership.

Well, right before the comments were blocked and deleted, I captured a quick screencap (http://www.mediafire.com/?ngifr2dl2w9) of the thread on TSR. 

I wasn´t teased, I was attacked but not by MATY´s people, by people who goes to other boards where I go, knows me and had particular interest in attack me. Other people from MATY didn´t know this and were used by these bad people. I said I am a not english speaker and some of them stopped but others posted something like "it´s a poor excuse". I ended stop to posting because I knew that those who were attacking me had a hidden agenda and that the others didn´t know this. I have few posts at MATY and they have no idea who I am and how long I´ve been in this community so I wasn´t annoyed with them. I love MATY and the chaotic enviroment that reigns there. I just couldn´t managed to be accepted there and I blame my lack of language skills, to be honest.
About the username, I decided to not use my regular username here because of those who can be lurking and we don´t know. I thought it could be more useful. It´s not the first time I have an account here, I think my old one was deleted for not being active. I* don´t think I ever posted with the old username here. But is really easy to guess who I am reading the GOS thread and that username is the username I use all the time ;)

kenmtl, you made me smile, thanks for that :)
I followed your advice and I´m lurking around. I´ve been reading a lot of threads.

dragonarts, I was reading that thread at GOS about TSR right now. I had no chance to post at TSR, unfortunatelly. I think the most important thing is keep spreading the news. People need to know, more people know, more they will look ugly.

Titan, I read all screenshots posted here and at GOS. I think Thomas is losing the control, this is good. Sometimes I miss some "spread the word" tactic like post at other boards what is going on at TSR. I can think about a couple boards where spreading this info can cause some comotion. I will find a good way to do this.

Hmm, my comment seems to have been deleted. I'm not particularly surprised. It was right before tessieroo's. When Thomass says "Da mama, I would appreciate if you would stop suggesting...", that was to me. That's my screen name over there. Has been since March 10, 2005. I can't remember what it was before that. I lost my password and had to make a new account, since I'd also changed email accounts since I created the first account. This comment was the first I'd ever posted over there however. When I joined, I didn't know anything about the joys of actually saying something on forums.  Guess I thought the only people who could post comments were the creators. Then I found MTS2, and no longer went to TSR.

Due to the fact that I was at work and worried that I would miss something, I kept refreshing and hitting the screen cap button.  Guess what I grabbed (http://www.mediafire.com/?neuicen3uti) during one of those clicks?

I downloaded it titan but the picture is to small :(

You should be able to make it bigger using your mouse wheel. That's what I was able to do.

Hey I never knew I could do that!  :D Thanks Kierra.

Glad I could help.  ;D

I still have a couple more of those to go through, and see if there was anyone else I got, before Steve or Thomas deleted them.  Steve did the announcement and tried modding it, and then Thomas jumped in and pretty well lost it after that.  I guess, Steve underestimated how much reaction, he was really going to get for that post.  What a pair of idiots those two really are.  ::)

I'm really pleased you guys were able to get screencaps.  As much as I love seeing TSR get butthurt by pirates, I was particularly glad when I saw ordinary members of TSR react with dismay rather than slurping up more Kool-Aid.  Asshats might claim they're not going anywhere, but every new incident chips away at their base.   :D

Going back to an older post, I think it's truly awesome that you told SimFreaks where to stick it when they tried to buy your creations. Hail Dani, a true old school pirate! I know that I was completely oblivious to the sheer wrong of paysites back in my Sims 1 days. I may even have paid for stuff at one point or another. *hangs head in shame*

We learn and we grow. *nods*

Thank you :)
This made me feel really good.

Oh, Oh, Oh! I get it!

I can haz stik up ass, 2?

Maty link? I'm interested in reading that. Any other links? You are obviously very pissed off. Maybe if you calmed down a bit and showed some proof you wouldn't look like you're just hating on dani.

ETA: Simfreaks = quality?  :D I'm still laughing.

Hahahahaha! Did you just say Simfreaks has STANDARDS?!?!?!? Hahahahaha.

Other than that, please, carry on. I'm drunk and popping popcorn. This should be fun.

Simfreaks quality went out the window when they went pay.  And I really wonder why I gave them any money to get it, when I -do- play my sims1 games.

I demand proof before we go down this little merry road. Although something tells me Shigayama is mentally unstable and rabidly faithful to Sim Freaks. So you know  ::)
Unfortunately I don't give a shit about a paysite that kicks out members due to their "lack of talent" when it feels so dangerously to "pot calling the kettle black". It is detrimental to the community to treat cc as a means to make a buck, look at all the division it causes. Now we are talking about quality "being good enough to pay for" who makes such assumptions? Why isn't it "being good enough to share"?


This economic mentality always shifts from the law. The law is, it's your game kids, create custom content and share the delights. The fuck tards charging you for it, are breaking that law.
You are right to sit with your friends and talk about making some peach tiles to go with your peach kitchen. If other prefer purple, make that too! The freedom of customisation and creativity is what Will Wright was aiming for.
All this talk about money soils such spontaneity and causes make creators to feel bored, to provide a "pay" standard. Fuck that. Create and share. It's the way it's supposed to be.

Well, but see here - my current philosophy is, if its pay, its NOT good enough to be in my game.  Which while its not entirely the case, if someone is charging for it, I don't want it.  I support the free simmers out there.

Would this happen to be the same danicast as the one at GoS?

Oh yay, let me go dig up some zombie drama that isn't related to paysites. First I have to get a root canal though, it sounds more fun.

My god. Changing one's mind is now lying? Seeing the light and moving on is lying? Take your vendetta up with her elsewhere.

I agree with Neriana. Zombie drama = Do not want.

It's so funny how people sign up just to piss everyone here off. Great. Come, attempt drama, fail, leave. The same pattern, every time. Get some creativity! And will someone please answer my question?

If you're going to drag up old fight, then do at least what Rohina does and provide links!  Don't make us go searching for it.

Or screenshots.  Those work too.

Yes, I think she mentioned she's from GOS. I'm too lazy to look for the evidence.

ETA: blahyama...links or pics or it didn't happen.

I'm pretty sure it is. It's not a common handle, I don't think, and the posting style is similar. She's pretty cool at GoS, and she seems to be contributing positively here, so I'm not really inclined to care that she didn't fit in at MATY. Here's a link (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,11437.0.html) to what shigayama is talking about. I don't find it particularly incriminating; she just acted like a bit of a noob is all.

Thanks for the link, Waddle!

Hmmm. I see no problem here. Perhaps I am missing something. Oh, yes, PROOF! The fact that Dani had a noobish moment over at MATY months ago, well, that irks me very little.

I agree with dddawn. I went so far as to read the last posts of danicast at maty. I got bored real fast. Fighting at maty is No Big Deal.

Put up the proof or shut up. It's already been said, but wanted to say it bluntly. And if you don't like it, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

If it's really important for you to throw around accusations and have people believe them, you ought to bring some proof with you.  Dig up the threads yourself and post links, don't send us on the hunt.

You might be wrong, you might be right, but from my POV, you've come charging in here, creating an account for the sole purpose of talking shit about another member.  A member who has been trying hard to fit in and follow the rules.  Guess where my sympathies lie right now?

If it was important enough for you to create a user name and talk shit, it's important enough to spend a little time digging up the threads.

You know, it's a page later, and hoochiyami hasn't given us anything. I wonder - what's her aim? To embarrass Miss dani? To make friends? To find someone who can help pull her head out?

Dear shigayama, I have all mails. All of them in my backups. With all interesting informations. IP´s, names, server routes, everything. I can take screenshots also, as Coconut is doing, I know how to do it. The difference will be I have no reasons to blur any real names because according brazilian laws a person can public post something that it was sent by eletronic mail if this person is the recipient. Don´t make me digg them up. Or maybe, this is exactly what you want, don´t you?
Hm. That could be interesting. I wonder if brazilian newspaper or brazilian EA also would be interested in a brazilian designer who is being attacked by a paysite that exploits gaming users because she didn´t sold herlself and respected copyright laws. You know, brazilian press have a curious tendency to love to cause comotion if we use the expression "greedy capitalists trying to intimidate a brazilian citizenship". I could write a book. It could become a movie. I wonder how much the cause against paysites could be promoted with this.

As a bipolar person I consider the expression "take your medications" a severe ofense, like racist or homophobic coments. Interesting, if you have so many "true" informations about me how you don´t know this? All my friends know, several people in several boards know, I never hided this fact. I openly talk about because people with dysfunctions can actually have a very good life.  Hm. I don´t think you would understand this, whoever you are.

Oh, BTW my bed wasn´t borked. I released that bed in my yahoo group and I made moar five animated beds hacked with adult animations after that. All file sharing. I still get thanks mails for these beds till today.

Have a nice day, dahling, don´t let the bugs bite, m´okay?  :-*


Yes, I am danicast at GOS. I share my TS2 creations in several places: GOS, my personal site, Simvention, N99 Paks hosted by jfade.
I am file sharing. I have high standards for all I make and people usually are truly happy downloading my stuff. And yes, I posted at the Blousoup thread at MATY and I was attacked by someone from N99 board (a board I left due disagreements about MATY, PMDB and other file sharing sites) who have interest in make me look ugly. I was PMed by someone from MATY telling me to not fall on that because it was a trap, because that person was clearly trying to make me look bad. I still have that PM saved in my inbox. Ican take a screenshot of that also.

I´m sorry for had had a n00b moment *runs to hide under a shell*
Oh, BTW, I am going to post moar goodies at GOS in few moments, I just made some beautiful recolors of a FREE mesh from a FREE site that, as everything else I ever made will be a FREE download and 100% file sharing.
Maybe someone would like to check the quality?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/denialalice/mysimsstuff/snapshot_35fdbc7a_75fe94d3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/denialalice/mysimsstuff/snapshot_d5e47fd2_d5fe9fc3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/denialalice/snapshot_00000001_15fd2eff.jpg

I´m happy my stuff is not "good enough" for paysites. And I wonder why Heather offered me 500 bucks for my crappy stuff.
I have that mail in my backups. If someone will really like to see, I can digg up.

I'll help her pull her head out, I haz crowbar!! *heads off to find the prybar that is in the toolbox*

Hey Dani, I really like the bedding texture! I am running over to GoS later on, to check other goodies. Hopefully yours will be uploaded by then. Bedding is my true weakness! (and paintings, can't have enough paintings!)

BIG HUGS! And since there's no smileys for hugs;  :-*
(p.s. I most certainly was not holding your noobish moment against you, as you've clearly learned a thing or two - or five - since then)
(one more p.s. I have a ton of your stuff, and it's awesome and I very much look forward to those neat little stool looking things in your pics)

That furniture reminds me of the stuff my grandmother used to have, I like it!  


Advice?  I wouldn't let Shigyama get to you.  So far, you're coming out of this looking a lot better than she is, so don't worry you have to justify yourself to us.  Let her ramble, if she goes too far, we'll just keep poking her with sticks.

Thank you guys  ;D
I´m happy you like my sims stuff. It´s a pleasure to me to share. I can make, why not to share?

I decided to shuddup at MATY because I got into the conclusion that I am still unable to understand english enough to not be caught in tricks when people are really trying to make tricks. I speak much more english now than eight years ago, for sure, but still is not enough. A lot of people praises my english but there is a bareer that is really complicated to trespass, mostly about idiomatic expressions, slangs and complexes structures. Maybe someday :)

Thank you for the advice, BlackDwarf. I didn´t come here to digg an old story (unless, of course, it´s useful to destroy one moar paysite), I came here to try to help if I can. But I mean it, I really have all backups including an email where Kate, one of Simfreaks creators at that time wrote me saying that I was "deliberating misleading Heather". I never forgot that because at that time I didn´t know what "misleading" meant. Kate was accusing me to mislead HJeather to make money offers to me. She was right, it was exatly what I was doing. I answered to her that I wanted to see how far Heather was willed to go and I discovered. These are the messages that I posted at the Good, the Bad and the Rant at that time with a friends help. Heather wasn´t pleased as her minions. It seems that eight years later, they are not still pleased... and I still have all that material, if is necessary.

Im glad Dani is here. At GOS she is nice (and I like her creations), and I think Shigy-whatever was blowing smoke.

Well, you said there were people around that chased you off from MATY for old grudges, and boy - you weren't joking.   :D shigayama - you've picked the wrong place - we don't care. She's free and sharing, and has nothing good to say about SimFreaks, and that's why we like her.

I lurked over her post at the time it was posted in that BlueSoup and I don't see how asking what it was about was some bizarre indication of how she's secretly a paysite lover.  You've obviously got a hardon for fucking her up - not going to work here pal - fuck off.

Thank you. I really appreciate all this support. I am used to deal with these people since I left Simfreaks and demanded that my stuff would be removed.

About Simfever, I have one thing to say - and surprise, this one is easy to prove! - Lucky started Simfever as a free site and this is when I joined. Some months ago a paysite talk started. I gave him my honest opinion and some months later the site was closed. All that is left is the geocities site and the yahoo group:

http://www.geocities.com/luckyboinyc/index1.htm

From this page:
http://www.lotsofsimslots.com/links.html

Please note this posted at that page:
http://www.lotsofsimslots.com/links.html
I have no idea who owns this site, I just googled my username and the expression "file sharing".

Dani's items are File Share Friendly so go to the group and join. http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group

The main reason I never changed my username is because I never had anything to hide.

These are some itens previously posted at Simfreaks that are still available untill today at Simfever yahoo group:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/denialalice/mysimsstuff/870b.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/denialalice/mysimsstuff/c0da.jpg)

Crappy stuff, indeed.
And these are some itens that Simfreaks never had:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/denialalice/mysimsstuff/aadb.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/denialalice/mysimsstuff/c365.jpg)

The gazebo is a rug and the hoit tub have transparent water and special animations I made myself.

All files are still up at Simfever yahoogroups if someone would like to download.  ;D
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/SimFever/
They are still file-sharing and free to recolor. And all of them works prefectly :)

I can´t stand someone bashing Lucky like this because he was one of the persons who most supported me against Simfreaks. It´s unfair. He was one of my best friends and I still talk to him from time to time. Friendship is a valuable thing for me.
For now, I´m done.

Not to sound fangirlish, but I adore your way with words.   ;D

Calalily loves the swears.  :D

Dani i use to love that site back in the day when TS1 was all the rage. I remember it well. Brings back alot of memories :) I also remember the good, the bad & the rant & remember very well Heather offering you money for your items.

Yes, WB, bring me good memories too.
BTW did you got your birthday gift? *looks innocent*

Yeah, but you manage to have a guttermouth, yet still show intelligence.  I live in a city where intelligence is not one of the strong suits.  (when I moved to here, my father commented that I raised the average IQ in both this place and the place I was leaving *snort*)  There is a lot of swearing, but it's never very clever.   It's like, "You fucking fuck.  Shut the fuck up."   But when you swear?  It looks smart. 

Birthday Gift? *Runs to SV to look* (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/Witchboy/Smileys%20Ect/Everyday/sprint.gif)

 :-* Thank you that's sweet. I do it because I like it, it's very Australian, and I disagree strongly with the premise that there are certain words you shouldn't use because they're vulgar/not ladylike. There are far worse things to call someone or say to someone than swears - my loving husband called me (jokingly) a horrible dog - that felt worse than any swears.

Oh, you´re australian? I have some australian friends in another sims board! I would never had guessed! I never saw you calling any guy "bloke" (this word really amuses me because the sound)
I am more badmouthed than a drunk sailor... in portuguese But I love some curses in english! But I don´t know how to properly use them, unfortunately.

I tend to call people mate though - but it fits in well with the general forum atmosphere here. :D


You'll learn here. :P

I like to insult someone withut using an swears at all - i save my swears for fun :)

Soggy: here (http://www.pangloss.com/seidel/Shaker/).  ;)

OMG, that's awesome, I could play with it for hours, and see how many I remember from when I was young and reading his plays. *hugs Dani*

I´m happy you like it  ;D
>hugs back<

Hugging? In a Pirate Forum? Stop that! Take your public display of affection to private messages.  :D

Bah humbug :P :D

Draw thy tool. My naked weapon is out.

I lol'd. Ive been on the internet too long, this sounded like sexual innuendo waiting to happen.

Well, those guys on ships in the 1700s did spend a lot of time alone together. Let's just say that they made do without women.

Also, get thee to a nunnery! ;D

Dani, not all Australians use the word 'bloke', these days.  Its a somewhat archaic word.  I grew up in rural Australia, and I'm from a Anglo-Australian background (aka. Aussie or Skip).  And I don't use the word 'blokes', nor do any member of my family.  Mates, yes.  'Bloody hell!', yep.  'Bugger' on occasion.  'Wanker', all the time (we had a few driving round in my old neighbourhood too.  But not 'Bloke'.  Some people use it, I guess

Yeah "bloke" goes in the unused bin along with "coppah" and "fair dinkum", "You beauty", "sheila" and "mongrel". I honestly don't hear those words any more. Although I am sure someone out there still uses them. (I'm from Sydney city) I hear "mate" and "she'll be right" all the time though. Oh and even I say "G'Day" :D

Bugger comes from England doesn't it? I hear it all the time too. Oh and I say "Bloody" all the time, how could I bloody forget!?!?!

I use "sheila" and "mongrel" :D "bloke" is not a much used word but you still hear it every now and then.

Everybody is mate however, all my friends are mate, anyone I can't remember the name of is "old mate"

I have never used "G'Day" or "fair dinkum"  I should use them with the next lot of tourists that come through here :D

I think "bloke" is more used by well, blokes.  It was severely overused by Kevin Bloody Wilson, and now most women hate it, I think. I use wanker a lot.  I use mate all the time, but not so much in text mediums, as I don't want to sound like I'm condescending or being over familiar, as I normally don't wear a badge saying "I'm an Aussie, it's nothing personal".   :D I use bugger (which is from England) and bloody, and I love using prat.  :)

I love Kevin Bloody Wilson ;D
I do the same thing.

I've known dani from N99/GoS and she has never been rude, crude, or lude. She has always shared items, tried to help people, and has been overly nice. Not sure who this one person is. Dani prob doesn't even know who this is under this name. However, I can tell you dani is one of the nicest people I have encountered in the Sims Community and that to me is saying a lot about her. I've been around since the start of Sims 1 Community and still here. I just don't post a lot anywhere. I lurk...but this has gotten under my skin. Everyone is a noob at one point on any of these forums. So she made a booboo post. Who gives a rats butt. Grow up..drink rum...and keep your seat belt on.

Every time I read one of your posts about being Australian, I wanna call you on the phone and hear your accent. I love Aussie accents. I wanna talk like you.  :(

Lol - that's so weird - I love talking to Saraswati on the phone because of her Scottish accent.  I'm pretty occa having grown up in Queensland.  ;)

No, I really can´t guess. Thank you, tahkisis for all nice comments :)

Uh, this is hot. Saylor guys doing it.

My friend who is australian is a writer. She uses "blokes" all the time and amuses me :)
I love the "bloody" expression, I´ve seen english people using it. Amuses me too.

"Mongrel" is awesome. I love the sound.

Sorry, I was seduced by the cute white... sea dog? Is called "foca" in portuguese.

We should all get on teamspeak/ventrilo/skype and chat.  I know you guys want to hear my Texan twang.  ;)

She might use it in text to distinguish herself as Australian - although the older generation tends to use it far more than us. 


You're Texan? Srsly?  That goes against everything I ever thought about you missangelica - I always imagined you having been from Boston - don't ask me why. :P

Same here.  I have a weird accent - I sort of camelean speech patterns and a tiny bit gets stuck.  I've lived in Georgia forever now, but spent my early childhood living in Europe, in West Germany.  Most of my TV watching has been british programs, with a bit of australian comedy thrown in... And my writing is a liberal mix of american and british spelling, which has gotten me in a few classes, like when my music teacher turned out to have a british ex.  Oops.  Because you write a lot of papers for college music classes [ was music history ]

So, I use Bloody alot because I do try to avoid using overt swears, especially around other people's kids.  Mine could care, their swears consist of hssst and phitttt.

Have any of you ever lived for a long time in another country? I'm wondering how much slang habits change if you live somewhere else. I have a professor who's Australian, and he curses up a storm when he's speaking freely (i.e. one-on-one, not in lectures, obviously) but it's almost all American or at least generic English-language curses. I've heard him say "bloody" once, and that's it. (He also calls his friends "mates".) The rest of his curses are pretty normal for Americans: he calls people "assholes" if they're "full of shit", he wonders "what the fuck" people are thinking, and he calls people on their "bullshit" (or "bullcrap"). Do slang habits change to fit the country you're in?

You guys ever wonder what a certain accent sounds like to another accent?

Like, the scottish accent sounds like a harsher version of the irish accent, but to another harsh accent (like russian maybe) does it sound harsh, or does it sound normal in tone?

Do people with spainish accents think the canadian accent sounds slow (like americans tend to)?
Do german accents think that english accents sound flat, and if so, do they think the american accent is even flatter than it is?

My head hurts now.

I've an American, and I've never thought the Canadian accent is slow, or even much of an accent. I think certain Southern accents, the more "refined" Virginian and Georgian ones, sound pretty slow. I've never thought of Russian or Scottish accents as harsh, either. German accents, and the German language itself do sound extremely harsh to me.

I'm from Michigan, so I just sound like an American news anchor who extends her "a"s sometimes :P.

Coming out of my lurking stage - so don't hit me :)

Anyway, I am a German living in America (Michigan) for six years now. It's actually funny for me when I hear other Germans speak English as it sounds very harsh even to me. Funny thing is I don't think I have an accent anymore but most people still hear it thinking I am anything from British to Canadian or Australian.

And by the way, the English accent doesn't sound flat to me. My family always jokes that Americans talk like they have a hot potato in their mouths though!

Yep, born and bred Texan.  I wasn't raised in what I consider the traditional Texan home though.  My father was raised in Michigan (and his father was Pennsylvanian) and my mother, although she was born in Texas, lived in California for the first 12 years of her life.  She claims it didn't affect her but I think she's the most progressive thinker in her family.  She really instilled the love of reading books and learning in me.

I live in surburbia and watch too much tv so my accent is pretty light.  You can especially hear it though when I whine or say certain words. 

Soggy, I never would have pegged you for an American.  For some reason I assumed you were Norwegian.  Where did I get that from? ???

The only accented English I really struggle with is Scots.  It sounds as if it's missing most of its consonants.

I'm from north of Boston, and if you want to hear a really ugly accent, you can phone me. :D

http://www.michigannative.com/ma_home.shtml  <--the "michigan accent" guide... it's funny.

I'm a michigander as well.

I do ok with Scots... I had an old bf who was a brit, and he had some welsh family. Took me years to understand them. @_@ There's nothing wrong with it, I just had never heard a welsh accent before.... totally new and confusing for me lol. I think they just thought I was a stupid American...

Meijer! I miss Meijer. Not as much as I miss the lakes or other natural stuff, but so many times I've wanted to go grocery shopping or buy a bike or a goldfish at 2 AM, and what can I do? Just sit home and cry that I'm stuck in the penis of America, that's what.

Just about everyone down here is from Michigan, though, it seems, so there's no danger of my losing my accent. I refuse to say my ending "t"s!

I've never heard "davenport" for couch though. And it's couch, not sofa. Also pop, not soda.

My husband's from Cumbria, which lies sort of in between Scotland and Ireland, so he sounds a lot of his words in a similar way.  (English accents are sooo varied.  From what my husband has been teaching me, you can pick where an Englishperson comes from from their accent.  We always hang it on him about his accent, (is, the oo in cook sounds more like the oo in mood.  And the 'u' sounds are more like 'oo' in cook than an 'uh' sound, so butter and pub, sounds like 'booter' and 'poob'.  He always insists that he is speaking proper English.

The real question is do you have a cowboy hat? :P


Actually, of all the USian accents, I like the Boston one the most. ;D


Sexy - you lucky thing. :D

I have a strange combination of Midwest and California accents. Not to mention I have a mix of the two slang's also ("Y'all" and "hecka" and "that's tight".) I'm a strange one. ::)


I actually laughed out loud at that. :D

I sometimes get caught up with a Midwestern accent, although I'm mostly a generic American kind of accent. There are times when I'm at work, though, that I'll start sounding like a milder version of Kirsten Dunst in "Drop Dead Gorgeous" because I have to yell across the cafe when a drink is done "George, your half calf soy vanilla latte is on the bar". It's when "bar" comes out of my mouth that my coworkers (who seem to mostly be from SoCal and Florida) start to make fun of me.

Silly Edit:

I HATE the word "hecka". If you're gonna use that slang, go all the way and say "hella" god damnit. -_-  Also, I get made fun of for saying pop instead of soda, sack instead of bag. As my ex used to tell me, if you walk out of a grocery store holding your sack, you're gonna get a few looks. :D

Depends on where you're from in Canada, of course. Where I'm from everyone has an accent that is largely indistinguishable from a Pacific US one; however head over to Newfoundland, Nova Scotia or Quebec (for the francophones there at least) and voices/accents are likely going to sound much different. You may be referring to that generic, slow, stereotypical accent that gets stuck on to Canadians for laughs (although Canadians do it too as a joke; see "Bob and Doug MacKenzie"). That accent is more common back East, and is not anywhere near as common as is popularly thought.

More people from Michigan! I lived there until I was 4, but I visit every year or so. Kinda sad about all the troubles people up there are having now a days.

Great link! I grew up in Upper Michigan. I moved away when I was 20. I went back several times to visit since then. My brother still lives there (my parents are both deceased).

I have to have a pasty when I visit. I've lived in Oklahoma, Germany, Arizona and Washington. Everyone thinks a pasty is one of those thingies that covers nipples.  :D

I still say "you guys" all the time.  ;D

What's so funny is people watching me knit think I'm Norwegian too.  That's kind of neat, I think overall, Scandinavians are a cool lot.  As for the New England accent, one of the people I work with sounds like he's on NPR, because he struggles to hide his accent, but he showed it off one evening and I think its a nice accent.  Accents keep people from being boring to listen to :)

Perhaps I'm simply not "USian" (as opposed to 'worldly') enough, but some of the phrases I see nothing wrong with using them or how they say we pronounce them. Why is "you guys" weird? ??? And I NEVER pronounce it "melk" or "ayeggs" for milk and eggs. It makes me twitch when I hear people say it that way...

And yeah, it sucks here... badly. The fiance-type (I need to find a shorthand way to refer to him... something awesome like "Mr Coolington" like cala has for her husband, but not as boring as "boyfriend" or whatever) and I are both struggling looking for jobs. I have something temporary that ends at the end of the month (sigh), and his degree doesn't lend itself to jobs around here... we don't have many nuclear plants. :p We've been looking to relocate elsewhere, but it's hard since we want, apparently, totally different things. We wanted west coast, I wanted east; he likes HOT weather, I prefer cooler; etc. I'm convinced we're going to get jobs offered to us simultaneously on opposite ends of the country and one of us is going to have to turn it down. Have any of you guys had any experience with this sort of situation? I would like some advice.

I kinda like the idea now, of all of us getting together and talking on the interwebz. Wait, don't we already do that? heh.

Maybe tape a sound wave and post it? I love accents :) Mine is boring. It's not occa, it's not strong, it's just boring. I went drinking with a Canadian two weeks ago, I met her at the pub. Her accent was awesome, she was from Vancouver, and a big name in the West End. She told me so much gossip heh. Dunno if any of it is true, but who cared when her accent was just awesomesauce? :P

..I had one.  If I had money, I'd totally get another.  :o  I found myself eyeing some a few months ago.  Texas is probably the only place you could wear a cowboy hat anywhere and not even get looks for it.

I wonder if you thought I was from Boston because I am uh.. abrasive and "loud".   ;)

Oh yeah? What's her name?  ;D (I am from Vancouver too, but it is highly unlikely that I know this person)

Er, and is that West End in your part of the world or the West End in my part? ??? :D



Edit: Took out the weirdy third person-ness

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NC1nCOCosBs

This is kind of like mine, but I have a huskier voice.

  I grew up in Georgia and now live in Tennessee. I miss home though, I keep trying to convince my husband to move us all back there. I don't think I sound too southern, except when I get mad. Then for whatever reason, I sound really country.  :D  My mother is doing a bang up job of teaching my daughter to be a "proper southern belle" though. The way she talks sometimes, even I cant understand a word of what she is saying.  :D

Let's see - my dad was from Pennsylvania, my other from New Jersey.  I was born in W. Germany, came to the states, lied in Georgia and Pennsylvania or New Jersey [not sure which] until I was four, went back to W. German, lived there until I was 9 and hung out with german kids, then came back to Ga. and have lived here since '76.  I rarely watch TV except for british and educational stuff, read tons of british fiction and always did - thier children's lit is -so- much better than american - it doesn't talk down nearly as badly.  I don't think I've got an accent so much as just a mannerism.  But if folks want to give a listen to what I sound like...I do an internet radio show twice a week for City of Heros.... O.o o.O

Uermn... I dunno if I should disclose her name. She's a lesbian, and said that Vancouver's west end is a lot like our Kings Cross, which means Big Gay Scene. She's seen a lot of celebrities there doing the dirty with same sex patners.  :D
At first I was like...meh....then the drunker I got the more shocked I was getting, which amused her to no end. I mean, godamn, I always thought Tom Cruise was gay, but to be told he goes exclusively to Vancouver to get laid, and stuff, well it shocked me. Because it's Tom Cruise, I just thought he existed in a suspended animation pod until it was time for him to come out and do a movie/interviews  :D

Ha, ha! I was just kidding, there's no need to tell me her name.  :D (Although I somewhat doubt she's as famous as she claims in that part of town, especially considering that she's a lady ;)).


Well, I mean, can't he do it (them?) all? I mean he's got a lot of time on his hands with the lack of work and all. How much time does fighting Xenu take during the day anyway? Plus, seriously, what better way to prove that you've achieved the "Personal Size" power. :D

To some people, going out to all the nightclubs, and hanging out with random people all the time, is enough for them to be "in the know" so I think that is what she meant :)

Personal Size power? Is this something for short people? I am curious and want to subscribe to your newsletter.

 :D Fucking Xenu....Geez...people will believe anything these days ...

Oh, you sweet naive kid, you. ;)

Feel free to subscribe to my newsletter though. Admittedly it's mostly about squids; but I do guarantee 30% less creeepy threats and 50% more insane fears about space aliens than the other guys, and it's a whole lot cheaper to join in (er, for the moment...tell your friends and family please!).

Born and raised in Iowa, hung around people from all over the place like Australia, London, Frankfurt, Alabama, as well as family from all around the country, so my speech is kind of a mish mash of different areas. Both of my grandpas had Dane accents because their parents were from Denmark, although my dad's grandma on his dad's side was from Norway... Now I'm stuck in Illinois and dunno if my speech has changed or not, but man did I get teased by family members last year when they say me for the first time after 20 years. They're mainly from Minnesota, donchaknow, and they say I sound southern. Uh huh, just cause they're up by the border... meh

Cala, or deelink, what is occa? I needz to learn me these Aussie terms.  :D

Mother - half southern Irish, half Northern Irish; Dad - half Northern Irish, half Jamaican. Me born in London and grew up with a strong cockney accent mixed with Jamaican (I was born within the sound of bow bells so technically am true cockney ;) ), live in Dorset which has a what would be is referred to as an "oh ah" accent here in the UK, it's a similar accent to the Cornish or Devon/Somerset accents. For example Dorset is pronounced Darrset. And I have a mixture of all the accents which is so messed up  ;D  My other half is Jamaican and speaks only in Jamaican patois with a thick Jamaican accent.  My dad speaks Iyaric so I have picked that up as well. I often get laughed at because certain words I say come out either broad Irish/broad Dorset/broad Jamaican/broad London depending on the word and I can end up being broad in each accent across the course of one sentence lol  Cussing is easy - I cuss Jamaican  ;D

Druid I think the nearest I have come to your situation is that we are house hunting in Jamaica currently, the other half intends to go back there with the next 2/3 years and as I have dual nationality (Irish/Jamaican), my son has dual nationality (British/Jamaican) we will emigrate when he does and go with him but he comes from Montego Bay, my Dad lives just outside Kingston so we want to live on opposite sides of the Island!  We did find a house we compromised on, up in the blue mountains a few weeks ago, I was happy because it was only 30 miles outside of Kingston and he just fell in love with the house.  Unfortunately Hurricane Gustav as was put paid to those plans by deciding to touch down right in the front yard destroying the entire property  :-\  So now we are back to arguing which side of the island we are going to live on! LOL

I love accents though but I suck at recognising them.  Personally I don't think the Scottish and Irish accents sound in any way the same but I like both of them.  I do tend to prefer the harsher Belfast accent but that's more a roots thing and I could seriously listen to the soft Southern Irish lilt all day (my late husband was Southern Irish).  I read an article on yahoo yesterday that was saying that local dialects in the UK are dying out and that people in the UK tend to be able to recognise/understand/translate more foreign words that they do dialect from other parts of the country.

Trying to Answer Keirra's Question:

Alright, Occa is country Australian, working Aussies who love drawling their words, when they bother to say anything. This example is of a modern occa accent (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs_-DKUimeo), which is not as strong as it is with the older generation.

Bogan is different, that is Kath and Kim (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_Hm6qr8qj8). Or Bogan Pride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlhU8GdAGe8). It's what we consider "white trash" here.

I tried, hope it helps! :)

Abrasive and loud?  Only at Celtics games.  The rest of the time we are have Yankee lockjaw. :D

Accents? I'm from California. We don't have accents :P LOL

I am from north east England so i have a Geordie accent. 

Yer from Illinois now. You gots an accent. Trust a fellow Illinoisan. I didn't believe it either....until I lived in Kansas for awhile and got made fun of for my accent. (Then I moved back home and got made fun of because I aquired a "twang" whilst in Kansas.)

Italian, Irish and Cherokee from my dad's side- Norwegian and German from my mom's. For some reason, when I get mad I tend to get a bit of an Irish accent going...while my hands are flying around like birds- which is my version of an Italian accent I guess.  ;)

I love accents and am halfway decent at figuring them out.  My first day of Geology, after class, I went up to my professor and asked him what part of London he was from - I think I startled him, since most americans can at most ask what part of England, and half the time, they're asking someone from Australia or New Zealand.


edit: And we're trying to move to illinois - figure Chicago is a good compromise since I -really- don't want to move to Alaska, and everyone else are such polar bears and hate hot georgia weather.  And honestly, I hat both the heat and the cold with no snow thing.

I think reality television has warped my opinion of the Bostonian accent and attitude.   :D

I grew up in Memphis so my accent is more big city Southern (think Cybil Shepherd) but I live now in the small town my husband grew up in where the accent varies from somewhat pleasant Southern to git-r-done Larry the cable guy style (gross I know.) It's a constant struggle with my kids to keep the git-r-done style out of them.

Born and raised in South Texas, so a bit of Tex-Mex influence in my accent.  Plus, lived 9 years is Alabama before moving overseas to The Netherlands...my accent is totally fucked up.  Except when mad...then it's ALL Texas!!  With all the slang, descriptive phrases and cuss words all rolled together. 

I was born and raised in southern VA so I have a southern accent and it becomes more pronounced when I am talking excitedly about something.  For those of you that have heard me speak you know what I mean.  :D

I've only lived in Michigan and tended not to hang around with young people much, so I sound like an old farmer. I don't cuss, so I don't know what that sounds like  :P.

  You have more willpower than I do. I dont think I have gone a day without swearing since I was 12.

  Bolding by me.

Everyone, meet iamsleepycat.  As for #4, Dani didn't do another ID to support herself.  I did. Some of you asshats just assume only one person in the world can speak another language.  Hi, Dani!

Or it's cunty Kyna.

Well, just be warned that the weather is fucking up again. It's wetter and cooler than normal for this time of year, so I'm thinking of trading in the fur and the paw pads for feathers and webbed feet and then taking myself south for the winter. Fuck the cold and snow!

I am lost here. That shigayama person is iamsleepycat? Makes perfect sense if is her. Including tha fact that she knows nothing about Simfreaks period.
And thanks for the support at MATY, I really appreciate.

wow...you came out hiding to post this piece of confusing info...to call people "asshats"??   

your last post was: 2008 February 29, 06:04:44    :-\

I think she was referring to that shigayami-what's it whosy person as an asshat...or am I reading that wrong?

Yeah I think she was. I didn't take it as her calling all of us asshats... it's just a general "you".

I would kill for an ass hat right now.  Just did the school run and I am freezing.  If someone could also attach a hotwater bottle I would be even more grateful. 

What KIND of asshat?

I, personally, want mine to be a top hat or a fedora. Snazzy, yes?

I like to be extra careful with my botty so please kitteh soft, with wide coverage, not quite hot enough to cause the old cornbeef effect.

I think that comment was general support of Dani and that the people at Simfreaks are asshats.

My asshat would have to be pretty small. How would they stay on? Strapped around the waist maybe.

What on earth was all of that about?  (Not the lesson in comparative asshattery, but the dani and anti-dani stuff). ???

I think it refers to this (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,11437.75.html) and this (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,11437.100.html).
Sleepycat thinks sickoflyingdouches is some sort of second register that I made at MATY but sickoflyingdouches is not me, it´s another person - who now I believe is Mary_Read who can speak portuguese, as myself.
There are a lot of brazilian in sims community, just they don´t speak portuguese in these boards because makes no sense.
Sleepycat have a problem with me because she broke some rules at N99 and I am one of the persons who reminded her that N99 have different rules than MATY or other boards. She was PMed by the admins because of that and she hates me just because of this.  ::)

*knits up some soft ass hats out of wool and passes them around* So...someone delurked to be snarky?  Or am I missing something?

And I'm sure that there are plenty of people here who can speak another language.

Iyay ancay eakspay notheryay anguageyay.

Translate that, man!

As usual, you've left out a big part of the story to make yourself look good. 

Edit:  Nevermind, I apologize.  I promised myself I wouldn't let her get to me anymore.  I was just being childish.  I'm not the original poster, I'm just another person who isn't a Dani fan, I should have kept quiet.  I'll leave my original statement as a testament to my stupidity.

I got it, I got it!  I speak igpay atinlay too!

And how many accounts do you have?

You know, you gave me an opportunity to say something.
I never expected any kind of unanimity about me. To be honest, I´m happy that there are so many people who like my creations and I made some great friends around the sims community and this also makes me happy. I know I have a lot of haters, something just happened these days coming from someone who hates me. I don´t care who hates me or why. In most cases is people who don´t understand what I´m saying or doing or people who are unable to accept that people have different opinions.
I know why sleepycat hates me and is a question related to inteen. I was honest about what I think about inteen and she got offended and started to PM me with a bunch of hate words and trying to justify herself. I don´t want people trying to justify themselves to be haters or to do anything with their games. I am entitled to have my own opinions and to express them.

So is simple:

1. I´m file sharing and I detest paysites. I am unable to understand creators who agreed with paysites schemes because most of paysites owners are using these creators to make a lot of money and even when they pay these creators, trust me, is just small money compared with the ammount that paysite owners make. These creators are illuded. I wish all these creators could understand this and how wrong is to use a game that dont belong to them to make money. How rong and sad is to charge money from kids who just want to imporve their games. I said this thousand times before.

2. I know as a fact proved by some "secret" boards that were found that inteen is used as a pedophile thing. One of those pedophile boards were found by N99 people. I stated this once and now sleepycat hunts me around trying to make people believe I am a detestable person because I said that inteen is used by pedophiles and that in my country if an adult who deal with children (as a teacher as example) was found with inteen installed probably the authorities will start a investigation to check what a heck this person was doing. She got offended, I´m sorry, it wasn´t directed to her but she took this way. Now I have a hater/stalker. I can live with this, I don´t fucking care what she thinks about me.

3. I never lied. I can be confusing speaking in english sometimes, specially eight years ago when all that mess envolving Simfreaks happened because english is my second language and I am not a Shakespeare, I speak pretty bad. I can´t fight stuff like "oh, you said you was improving some textures so this means you think the textures were crappy at first place so this means you are criticizing who make the textures". No, it is not what I meant. But sometimes when you have a second language you don´t know the better words to use to express what you think. So maybe I should have say "I am reworking those textures" but sometimes I don´t know the best way to say something.

4. I disagreed with some policies that happens in some sites as a creator. My points about sims creations are simple: it´s a game, we are here to enjoy the game, enjoy creating stuff and enjoy sharing stuff. I dislike any site policy that makes the creators feels like shit because their policy - with particular emphasis in paysites because I never saw a paysite with a decent policy toi creators, they are just greedy. I don´t like cliques also, because they are unfair. See TSR policy as example, it´s the worst of all words, cliqueish, stimulating competition between creators, making some creators feel like shit and exploring these people to make profit.

5. No, I am not going to accept some site policy just because is a free site. I saw very nasty people in this community in all these years even in free sites. All paysites are evil but some free sites are not nice enough too, they do horrible things to their colaborators. I understand why here at PMBD the motto is to protect free sites at any cost because I am also against paysites and I want all of them destroyed. But I think there are some things that people should not accept no matter what site is. I know a lot of nice creators who gave up because they were misthreated and I don´t believe in misthreat any kind of person. I think is wrong. I don´t want free creators quitting.

6. I don´t understand why not everybody is file-sharing. I don´t understand restrictive policies like "you can´t use part of textures, of meshes blablabla because these are MY copyrights". I think those who uses these policies wants some kind of control that is impossible in the internet. I think this kind of policy is the first step to fall in the dark side of paysites. I saw a lot of people use as argument in the past that "paysites protects YOUR copyrights better". It´s a fallacy. PMBD is a living proof. If someone is so worried about "copyrights" they should read the game EULA again. It´s all EAxis copyruights, when you click at bodyshope agreement you agreed that everything belongs to EAxis.

7. If a creator are not here for the pleasure of making something that will make downloaders happy and don´t feel happy in share then it´s in the wrong hobby. Yes, the sims is a hobby. It will not fullfill life aspirations. If a person wants to be recognized as creative, awesome designer and so, go to be a designer. There are plenty of jobs in game industry, game design is valuated. Make stuff for the sims is a hobby, period.

8. Yes, I am an old bitch. Live with. I won´t ask apologies for what I think. I like diversity of opinions and I think conversation is the key to also make people change minds. I am a person who is always open to change my mind if the person who is talking to me uses rational and good arguments. I won´t allow people just call me names. I won´t give up from sims community just because some people read pieces of what I said and decide to be judgemental about me. People who really knows me knows better.

Hey, your English is just fine. I think people should be tarred and feathered when they criticize people who aren't native English speakers.

I agree with the stuff about restrictive policies. You can't police politeness on the internet and what do people expect when they post things for the world? It feels like they are purposefully digging up drama with strict policies because there is no way to enforce them. I know people say, "They're the creators and their opinions should be respected," but it all has to be left up to the honor system.

And I've always found Inteen to be rather tactless and disturbing myself. I'm glad I'm not the only one.

Having had to do tarot readings for people where we did not share a common language [ though the husband of the one guy did speak english better than my spanish ], I know it can be hard to find the right words.  Heck, I suppose I count as a native speaker of english and I have a hard time sometimes, finding the right words.

People need to learn to not get all upset about words - our language is not entirely spoken - there is inflection, body language - all a part of it.  Smilies kind of help, and someone who is good at writing can sometimes get across their mood with just words, but its an imperfect media.

Thank yopu ooglafina. Trust me, inteen is misused in several places.

Soggy there is something called "intention". There are two ways to interpreter people, with good intentions or in a malicious way, seeking for hidden bad intentions. It´s impossible to deal with people who seek malicious intentions in everything someone says. It´s a lost cause.

Now, without really knowing what went on, dani has been perfectly behaved here as I've seen. Please stop delurking to bring up ridiculously OLD FIGHT that's from another forum, like 8(?) years ago. Old fight is old AND irrelevant.

dietofworms: lesson in comparative asshattery, lawl.

Also: there's a good reason Pescado calls inteen the kitten-killer. :p

Eh? What is this in reference to?

Ummm, yeah - she already pretty much posted what is in that image here.  That she'd donated to MTS2, won't repeat it and doesn't like how people are treated there.  She's posted the last several times.

So, right, lurk moar.

Okay this is getting dumb. Dani has been perfectly well behaved here. If you want to bash shit on her, then take it to pm or another forum. We are about destroying paysites, not destroying our members.

And maybe you should learn how to lurk before starting fights. Dani has already stated this thousands of times! Hell I believe it is even at GOS in their Sim Secret thread as well.  ::)

fake edit: Soggy beat me to it.

I don't know what all you new/silent posters are hoping to prove - that as she stated earlier, there are people willing to chase her down and pick fights with her - if so, bang up job! I believe now she's not paranoid, but pursued by determined bitter people who like nothing better than to follow her around and pick on her. We complain about Atwat - you guys are just as bad - can't even leave her in peace in a forum you're not interested in. What exactly, apart from driving daniyagami away on the sheer principle that you don't like her for what she's done on other forums not here, are you hoping to help us with today?

I don't care if it's old fight or not - it's completely irrelevant - it didn't happen here and it didn't happen now. She's free, she's sharing, and she has nothing good to say about paysites - that's what we require.

That damn screenie was in a Sim Secret a couple of weeks ago, and your point is what?? That she posted it? Well, if so, good on her! Leave old fight from another place at the door, we don't wanna hear it. Dani is proving to be a nice person and is bringing in some information that we didn't have about how things have been done. Don't like it? Tough, go crawl under a rock with the rest of your ilk. I likes da Dani, da Dani is cool. Braziliansockpirate is a fool. Go way!

Gee, and here I was thinking that it's great to have all these new members, the word about TSR must be getting around. ::)

Hey n00bs! Stop bothering Dani!  I don't know anything other than what's been posted here about her and what she's allegedly done, but from her posts here I like her a lot. I think she's smart, and she's been contributing a ton of free stuff to the community lately.

You're giving us n00bs a bad name.  :P

I didn't mean you, Oogla.  You're a nice n00b; I gives you cookiez. :D

I'm not a noob, I'm just quiet.  I've been here almost two years and I read all the new posts everyday, I don't post because I'm intimidate by you guys.  I should have known better and I do sincerely apologize.  I don't follow her around, I didn't even realize who she was until I read the statement I quoted in my other post.  There were bad feelings on my part from a few incidents involving her and I let them spill over here.  I shouldn't have and, again, I apologize.  I shouldn't have brought old fight here.  I've learned my lesson and the next time I break my silence to post, I promise I will have something worthy to say.

Fair enough  :) You have no problem from me, or from daniyagami, I'm sure.

I don´t have problems with any person, it´s the opposite, I enjoy immensely people from all places. I have sims friends from US, England, Australia, Sueden, Germany, France. I love diversity.

What bothers me a little bit is why people don´t contact me directly (there are several ways, I go to several boards) and don´t talk to me directly if they have any problem with me. I always answer to any person with politeness and I always try to work around any kind of issue even if contradicts my beliefs. I´m not radical and I try to understand everyone the best I can. I don´t understand why some people thinks the best way to deal with me is public attack on boards. It is not. It makes me to fight and I am a good fighter. I learnt a lot in these years.

Also I don´t understand what some people want from me.  If someone wants me to appreciate paysites, it´s a lost cause. I detest paysites.

If someone wants me to stop to make sims stuff is another lost cause. I make sims stuff because I enjoy, it´s my hobby. I had problems with my sites and yahoogroups (I suffered a DDoS attack once, my site was hacked six months ago what caused me some money loss but I managed to put it up again and some of my yahoo groups were reported and deleted for "copyright violation" because they had sims files posted, can you believe?) but I never gave up. I´m not a quitter.

I enjoy the game and to share my stuff. I don´t really feel bothered if some people thinks my stuff are crap. The downloaders likes my stuff and is what matters to me. You can´t please everybody all the time, anyway.

tipsywoozy I don´t know who you are. I have no idea what are you talking about but if you would like to have a conversation, I´m open to this.

Causing fights in public forums gives them attention.

Interesting. I thought the "drama queen" and "attention whore" here was me. ;)

Naw, you're not an attention whore until we say you are.

Ops. Sorry about that  ;)

OK, I agree with dani in many ways. You just cant stop someone from spreading the wealth, and you shouldnt try. Point is if you give it freely to use, let them use it. You cant force politeness and make them give you credit. If it's something you've "paid" for, I say you own it and can do what you want with it. I buy bananas, dont tell me what I can and cant do withem!
As for MTS2, they are stuck up, bossy and dont care about any but their pets. And no I wasnt rejected there. I happen to have many things there. Dani, you go girl. Now everyone play nice cause you know who loves when we fight amongst ourselves.

I completely agree. If you pay for something you own it and can do what you like with it. Paysites are retarded period. When I buy a new dress the store owners don't say I can't lend it to my friend and if I do they will harass me and try to ruin me. It's pathetic.

Uh... first you insult MTS2, the biggest free site around, then you order everyone else to "play nice".

Also, I could not care less what jollies idiots may get from my agreeing or disagreeing with anyone. They are idiots. They do not count. If we all agreed to "play nice" and always agree, then we'd be some kind of twisted hive mind, with Pescado as the queen bee. DO NOT WANT.

Except I have specifically decreed not to play nice. In fact, I demand MOAR FIGHT.

Exactly. And this ain't TSR.

What?.... And here i thought Pes was the Queen Bee. You mean he isn't? (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/Witchboy/Smileys%20Ect/Everyday/lol.gif)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/Witchboy/Smileys%20Ect/Everyday/sprint.gif)

Without wanting to sound like a hive mind, I agree.  Not to mention, making paysites happy because we fight is the lamest reason for being nice to each other I've ever heard.  Moar fight doesn't last particular long here, and even if it does, saccarine sweet niceness is the domain of TSR - not here.  That's why those privy to sensitive PMBD information aren't helping TSR and coconut is helping us.

I could however, resort to calling Pescado Queenie.  :D

Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me to hear that he has a pair of those translucent platform stilettos strippers wear sitting in his wardrobe somewhere :D

Sorry, if I offended. Where I come from, when people are involved in bickering amongst themselves while participating in a group type of activity, whether it is business or pirating and pay site destroying, play nice is a way of saying "quite dicking around and get back to work". Trust me it isnt sugary sweet at all. Gawd - who would ever put PMBD and sweet in the same sentence?

Oh that brain imprint, it burns!  :D Someone called Queenie is bound to have something frilly. :P


Thing is most of us here are clear on our purpose and able multitaskers. I can destroy paysites and engage in MOAR FIGHT at the same time.  All of the pirates are able to do so too - I've yet to see one try for FA on the basis of a fight here, or buy a year's subscription while in a fight here.  It's relatively easy to do both. In fact, MOAR FIGHT can involve sticking it to fellow pirates - put them in the meatslab dress (available from the booty) and take a picture of your fellow pirate and torture them all afternoon - the two combine for extra awesome paysite fighting power. 

I'm sure I've pissed off people here, and they downloaded a buttload of Atwat, stuck me in the middle and had a good old time making me live in it.  So long as they didn't buy it, they are still "on message".

Some of the pirates that anger others wind up with their self-sim married to Pescado. How's that for an image of mental torture? :D

Right there is the main reason I haven't made a self-sim...and never will.

Chicken! I'm about to come up with another version of my own, to reflect some changes and to be honest, I don't think the one that my husband made of me really resembles me much at all, aside from the hair and the eyes. :D I'd rather someone abuse my self-sim than me any old day.

*pokes calalilly in eye* *pokes Paden in boob*

Put me in awful pay stuff as well and kill two birds with one stone.  Plus, extra punishment for you. :D

I am NOT a chicken. I just don't want to end up in the meat-slab dress and married to Pescado. We may be talking about pixels here...but torture is torture no matter how you look at it.

:D *grabs Nouk's boobs and honks, then tickles Cala and runs* The torture is all in fun, though. At least it is for me and the one married to him becomes quite the wealthy widow! :D

I don't think Pescado will ever get married in my game.. he's too much of a player.

I'm kinda liking the idea of possibly being a wealthy widow. So, if I can find the proper glasses (smallish and dull coppery-colored frames) and hair (longish and can't make up it's mind whether it wants to be wavy or curly) I might give it a shot.

Oh, yeah, I'm pretty sure Paden just said that to get me to make a self-sim- kind of like a "I double-dog dare ya!" thing. But, hey, I'll go along with it...if only to advoid being poked with sharp sticks.

and they're great for the beach too.

(http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL646/2837408/20739150/341720464.jpg)

I've seen that picture before.. I want to say that's Shanna Moakler but I can't back that up. :x

Isn't that Denise Richards?

*hates self for knowing*

Talk about comfortable beach footwear...

Would it help if I told you that you look marvellous.

Can't be.  Look at her in this picture (http://thesuperficial.com/2008/04/denise_richards_in_a_bikini_mi.php?bfm_index=15&bfm_page=0). 

I remember Fish making fun of the woman in the hooker shoes.. saying that she's always classy IIRC.

ETA:  My memory sucks but I found out who it was.  Shauna Sand (http://thesuperficial.com/2008/08/shauna_sands_thinks_a_bikini_a.php).

Good call! I could have sworn it was Richards. (has no idea who Shauna Sand is)

The kid looks totally embarassed by being seen in public with her. I thought they only started doing that in their teens.

Yep, that's Shauna Sand. She's on TMZ all the time. Nobody can look trashier than her.  :P

She is was a playmate.  She can't let people outdo her!

I beg to differ. (http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq313/quid_iuris/coco.jpg)  (sorta NSFW)

I've seen Shauna wear a dress like that along with those shoes in the above picture. She's the Queen.  :D

Is it just me, or does Sim-Pescado always seem popular with the ladies? Every time I put him in game he always gets swooning. Must be the beard. I've even had him show up for the Matchmaker date.

It doesn't help that the ratio of phorum members is disproportionately female heavy.  The males get passed around like a joint, wetter every pass.

I'd prefer to have Pescado as a npc like Crumplebottom.  Instead of hitting people with a bag, he needs a weapon to cause butt hurt.

Maybe he could use something like one of those fraternity paddles that my brother keeps as a memento of his frat days...

I just can't get past the image of sim Pescado hitting people with a fish... (The pillow-fight fish hack, lawd do I miss it. Where was that?)

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