PMBD

As promised, here is our comparison thread - what the creators SAY it looks like, and what it actually looks like, in game.

Now, I have a decent graphics card that runs large lots smoothly, shows fish in ponds, reflections on water, that kind of thing, so what I am about to show you, isn't because I've got a crappy system.

This first one, isn't as bad as I seem to remember it. Either it's been updated, or my memory sucks, because it does now join at the corners. Meh. I know there are others that don't, and I will get to those in due time  ;)

So, here we go. Spot the difference  ;)

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/d135.jpg)
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/snapshot_75e6bc36_f5e6bf1b.jpg)


(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/d136.jpg)
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/snapshot_75e6bc36_15e6c200.jpg)
Note at the right hand side of the counter the end of the counter goes into the counter itself. Now, this isn't glaringly obvious if you put the stove there (as they have) but to combat this you would have to use the snapobjectstogrid cheat. The animations work on the dishwasher/trashcompactor, but the bag pokes out of the bottom.
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/snapshot_75e6bc36_b5e6c236.jpg)
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/snapshot_75e6bc36_75e6c32c.jpg)

Also worth noting is that I have a lighting mod in game. With the standard maxis lighting in use, this set looks even worse. The round vases, have square shadows.

The rug, unbelievably, is the same rug.

And here is a recolour.

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/snapshot_75e6bc36_75e6c8e9.jpg)

Scrummy, eh?

So, whilst not TRULY fugly, it is nowhere near what they show you on the site.

Wow, I can't believe they don't feel guilty about selling that crap to innocent, paying customers.
False advertisement much?    :-\

This thread is a great idea for those who are thinking about purchasing CC.

I'd share, but I don't have any sets.
Thanks, though!

Eww. That looks tremendously horrid. You'd think that if they spent that much time photoshopping, editing, and hiding all the imperfections of their creations, that they could put that much time into making them look better.

Not to mention a HUGE pet peeve of mine is when I have to use placement cheats because a counter, a fridge, or something like that is sliced in half by a wall.

This tempts me to load my game up with some payfiles and post some pictures as well :)

Reflexsims does that all the time. Their stuff used to overwrite Maxis objects a lot, too. I haven't downloaded anything from them for quite a while, so I don't know if they've improved in that area.

The Deseo set, doesn't even come with a fridge! The pictures (wider ones) if you place them wrong, cut through a wall.

Reflex are VERY good at sucking people in. I spent a lot of money on their sets, because they look wonderful on the site. Get them in game though, and well, you see what you get.

I love the idea of this thread.  Who did that set? Was it Reflex Sims?

Can't you tell by the over use of the sharpen?  ;D

Vitasims turn next  :o

I downloaded one at random here. I am shocked by the results  ;)

Now, this look wonderful, doesn't it? I'd buy it, if I didn't know better.
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/6.jpg)

In game
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/snapshot_75e6bc36_35e6d2f3.jpg)

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/8.jpg)

In game
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/snapshot_75e6bc36_35e6d495.jpg)

Now, lets have a closer look. Notice the way the sims legs are swallowed by the table....which is to be expected, given the design of the table, but even the chair on the left goes into it.
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/snapshot_75e6bc36_35e6d33f.jpg)

In the preview picture, the detail on the cabinets looks ok. Get close up, and you can see it's just literally painted on. I have to say, even these pictures do not show how truly bad it is. It is much worse, in game than these photos could ever show.
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/snapshot_75e6bc36_75e6d60e.jpg)

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/snapshot_75e6bc36_55e6d613.jpg)

Magic piano, anyone?

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/snapshot_75e6bc36_b5e6d392.jpg)

These were taken with shadows on. The objects, zey has no shadows. Consequently in game, they lack any real depth at all.

These objects, are probably very high poly. Suffice to say, my usually smooth running puter, really wasn't liking this set at all.

This one is quite subtly done, but I do think that yes, it's been tweaked to look better. The detail in game is nowhere near as sharp as it looks on site.

I don't know if it's just my personal preference or not but I think the in game shots are better than their preview pics.  ::)

Download it, have a look in game, and then tell me that  ;)

Ugh. The first post. That's reflexsims, right? When I first discovered this site, I was under the delusion that paystuff was superior. No basis for that belief, other than the assumption that money makes everything magically better.

So I go into a shitstorm of downloading, and can't wait to get all the stuff in game. Imagine how perplexed-- perplexed I was when I saw how shitty it was in game.

I had to delete almost everything. I was the MOST let down by the reflexsims stuff. OH, that stuff is beautiful---- ON THE REFLEX SITE ONLY.

Oh, and in game, the decor has weird white, pixelated borders on everything too.
(I'm still bitter, obviously).

The good news is that my game runs so much better after deleting all the peggy/murano/reflex/ and rosecrap.
Please post more of these!!! LOVE!

Heh, Ill take your word for it.   Im sure they're shit in game but your screenshots do them more justice than Vita's enticing photos do.

Actually, I don't think that Millie's pictures do make them look better - if you have a kick arse graphics card, there shouldn't be a blurriness to the texture. Maybe if you're not used to a kick arse graphics card, it may look better overall.  :)

Not to mention there is the other detraction for Vita Sims - polycounts.  See that insipid candelabra in the fourth picture down? Polycount for that one tile object (upper limit for creators is 1,200 without compromising game running ability for downloaders) is 14,844

The total polycount for that set is 60500 - so you need a kick arse graphics card to render it, yet it doesn't come with kick arse graphics.

 :o Holy Moly! That's ridiculous!

Wowza. That IS a lot. I had no idea it would be that high. No wonder my game didn't like it.

I am hunting down my next victim  ;)

One set that I drooled over from Reflex was the Ameritania collection. I plotted, I planned, I found the BOOTY! Once I got it in game, I got rid of it fast! I'd also gotten some of the bathrooms as well, and they too, went out via the delete button. They bled through the walls like all hell and while I did keep the floors and maybe one of the walls, none of the rest of it was worth the headache that I got from seeing it in game. Good idea for this thread, Millie, you're a sweetie to put that fug in and show us what sins can be covered with clever photoshopping.

Same here. Before I knew about the booty I used to promise myself that when I got a credit card the first thing I'd do was to raid ReflexSims and download every set (although it might have sounded a bit like "baaaaaa"). Theirs was also the first objects that I ARRed from the booty (the Pearl set and the Art Studio, if I'm not mistaken) just to find out that it bled through walls/had weird grid schemes (like a three tile desk or a wall mirror that would hang 1 grid away from the wall at all occasions)/looked generally shitty in game.
This thread is a wonderful idea. We should spread the word around in the community: if you absolutely MUST buy CC it's always good to know what are you really going to pay for.

In total agreement. I drooled over reflexcrap until I saw it in game. But the editing on the pics is amazing. Methinks their talent lies in photoshop effects rather than object creation. Which is a shame. That person might be able to edit Cameron Diaz to make her look pretty.

) just to find out that it bled through walls/had weird grid schemes (like a three tile desk or a wall mirror that would hang 1 grid away from the wall at all occasions)
ahahahaha! You get what you pay for right? Wait, no! That's not right! Payshit indeed. 
Thanks to this site, we get to see the work "warts and all". What a bait n' switch they're all trying to pull. You think something's good and see that it's ugly in game. But by then, it's like 'haha. I mean, oops. Well, you paid for it already. NO REFUNDS!"

Just a quickie, because I'm getting tired now. It's nearly midnight and us old fogeys have to get our sleep  :D

Next up, Simcredible designs.


Doesn't this look just wonderful.
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/debret004.jpg)

Now the in game shot.
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/snapshot_75e6bc36_95e6f62c.jpg)

You will notice, that on my version there is no cooker hood. Reason for this? It's not damn well included in the set. Oh, you do get an extractor, but it isn't that one, and nowhere on the download page that I can see is the link to download that particular extractor. So, not only does it look jack all like that when you get it in game, you don't even get that particular item. Talk about false advertising!

Here's the one that you get in the set. Apologies for the darkness.

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/snapshot_75e6bc36_95e6f95a.jpg)

The cooker bleeds into the wall

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/snapshot_75e6bc36_f5e6fa1f.jpg)

Ze mysterious floating plate

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/snapshot_75e6bc36_35e6fa69.jpg)

Water coming from midair!

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/snapshot_75e6bc36_75e6fab6.jpg)

Oh, and I almost forgot. You get a fridge with this one. Not sure if this is a good or a bad thing, given how it is ;)
Whats with the glowy bits?

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/snapshot_75e6bc36_35e6f9b0.jpg)

This is the only pic I could find that had the fridge in it. Strangely, no glowy bit on show.
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/debret-1.jpg)

With all of these, I have tried to reproduce the effect the paysite has used. With this set, I could in no way, by altering lighting, get the metal to look shiny like that.

This is a great thread to show what many of us have been saying forever. Paysites suck and sell sub-par stuff. Thanks for all the pics, Millie. You're a brave one!

Eye opening pics, please post more when you can.

YAY! thank you Millie. You do realize you're enabling what could be a new addiction for me?

As for the set, that site seems REALLY fond of using gradients. Have gradient effects ever been cool? Must've missed the memo.

Or you know, you could.  This isn't Millie's job.

I'm feeling inspired to post some of the reflex decor-shit  I bitched about earlier.
Which means I'm gonna have to redownload it. But its for a good cause.

They've obviously messed with the contrast and added shine in those kitchen pics. I do have a question about the wall that came with it, did that rock wall come with the actual set? Because it isn't anything like the advertised picture.

from reflex's amertania set
(http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo159/oolongtea29/ameritaniareflexmirror.jpg)
the mirror does not fit the frame. Also, what's with the white graininess around the image? You usually get that ugly white border with low quality animated gif files, especially viewable on any non-white setting.


(http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo159/oolongtea29/amereflexbowls.jpg)
Again with the "gif.file" type white edges. Obviously, these objects were only ever meant to go on pristine white walls with the sims ligh and shadow settings disabled. I couldn't find any larger pics of the bowls, but I guess I know the reason why.

You forgot the fact that the mirror doesn't even fit into the frame. The bottom you can see through the design.

nope! (mentioned below the image already)

Nope, oolongteadrinker saw that (unless she/he just edited his/her oversight really quickly :D). Oooog, I'm too slow!


The "white graniness" is more than likely due to poorly painted alphas combined with using a white/beige background in the working file instead of one coloured to match the metal (and yes, alphas that look like this are a true mark of laziness in my opinion).

Thanks for the first part as well as answering my question. Learn something new everyday, huh?
Considering my past couple posts, this image from reflex's site made me a little angry.
(http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo159/oolongtea29/d151.jpg)
Confirmation? It confirms nothing.
for emphasis:
(http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo159/oolongtea29/mirrorswtf.jpg)
notice something WONKY about the image that's not apparent in the TINY "screenshot" reflex used?

No. The walls don't come included. The wall I used was a maxis made one.

I love this thread; I think it's a great idea.

Because I feel that the full craptasicness of the Deseo set has yet to be realized, here are a few more screenies for your amusement/disgust. I remembered this set when Millie showcased it, and how annoyed I was that I had even wasted my time downloading the files from the booty. I did forget to check the recolors of one the paintings. No loss, I'm sure. I wanted to show how many freaking pieces there are to this set (58 files!), cluttering up you catalog all over the damn place. And no repository used, so the set is over 22MB for 3 colors. Pictures are cropped to save space. Clicky for more detail.

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/veganelise/th_reflexcrap0.jpg) (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/veganelise/reflexcrap0.jpg)

Here you can see the sideboard is eated if placed against a wall. The deco on top are probably the best items in the entire set, and actually didn't look bad at all. The footprint you see is the painting above, resulting in ugly overlap issues if you place something on the wall beside it. And the sink there on the right...shading, whut? It's funny because it often looks convex in-game, rather than concave, partly due to there being no drain at the bottom.

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/veganelise/th_reflexcrap1.jpg) (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/veganelise/reflexcrap1.jpg)

This painting suffers the same footprint issue as the one shown above. You can see the rug has the same problem as well. I didn't test the candles functionality, but I noticed the grabbable area for them is oversized.

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/veganelise/th_reflexcrap2.jpg) (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/veganelise/reflexcrap2.jpg)

Here are the counters. The 2 on the left have the d/w and t/c in them. Although only one package, this objects shows twice in the catalog due to fail cloning. The middle one, despite being the same object as the leftmost one, won't recolor once it has been placed. And the one on the right shows you a fucked up "recolor" which wasn't cleaned from the package. Looks to be part Maxian and part oops. The cupboards also have some extra recolor choices but at least they are just repeated stuff.

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/veganelise/th_reflexcrap3.jpg) (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/veganelise/reflexcrap3.jpg)

Picture hodgepodged to show multiple inept footprints. Here are the pieces you have to puzzle together to make the frame around the counters, which Millie showed in her post. All the footprints are completely off, and as she showed, it doesn't even all fit together properly when you do finally figure out what the heck these pieces of crap in you counters catalog are (circled bits are these 4 things plus the redundant countertop).

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/veganelise/th_reflexcrap4.jpg) (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/veganelise/reflexcrap4.jpg)

I believe there's maybe a warning on the Reflex site that the set's counters do not take sinks. Well, yes and no. You can place the sink without moveobjects on (and probably use it as well), but the results ain't purty. Yeah, the upper drawer just kinda...waits over there. Snazzy, n'est pas?

This thread is most excellent. 

I never minded some minor photoshopping.  Like the occational "light coming through the window" because I know that it's not going to happen in the game.  But, sometimes, I've seen room sets that I swear, they're using the picture from the catalog to show the room, not the actual creations they made. 

I can't fault anyone for using a texture to cut down on the amount of polys when doing a mesh.  However, they'd better give what they promise and actually have a low poly count.  It's when it's got this huge count, and yet all the "detail" is texture that it irritates me.  How hard can it be to make a low poly square?  Errr, well, maybe it is hard, I'm ignorant, I admit. But I would imagine that it's not that difficult to convert a simple shape into a low poly, vs. something complicated.

Tomato/Paleoanth's stuff always looks the same in the preview pictures as it does in the game.  No, I take that back.  The Horizons bedroom actually looked better in the game than it did in the preview picture.  (I wanted to include a link to the set, but MTS2 is going wonky on me.)

Edit: I didn't mean to make the writing *that* tiny

Whoops. I have a tendency to not entirely read things. I'm lazy and reading takes to much :P

Same here. I can view something in context and be all "I see what they did. They're trying to be all romantic and stuff. Rays of sun. Don't it just give you the warm fuzzies inside?"

VS.
"They altered the object images themselves as a blatant F-you to the subscribers."
There's a point where it should end, but do THEY know that?

I love the rays coming through the window. I'd love to be able to do that (it's probably not that hard, I'm just lazy)
If you gotta photoshop your creations at least SAY so. Or, alternatively, if you think it's that bad that you HAVE to photoshop it to make it look good, make it better.

There's an excellent article over at MTS2 that gives all sorts of hints and tips for reducing polys. It's very easy. Putting an attractive texture on it so it looks like high polys is a lot harder, of course. (ex: Adele)


Edited to fix type. Grrr.

Exactly.  And it's a very easy effect, at least with PSP.  And, anyone who plays the game knows the sun doesn't really "shine" into windows. 


I don't think they do. Back when I made stuff, I never altered my game shots, except for a little bit of sharpening (And by little bit, I mean little bit.  Some of the examples shown have been so sharpened they could cut your eyes by looking at them)  and that's because if you use the in game camera, the pictures are blury.  If I used the print screen button, I didn't have to sharpen. 

Yes, I added whatever I could in the game to enhance the picture, I admit.  I'd put in a ceiling, try to use attractive things that came with the game to enhance the objects I made, etc.  But my personal philosophy was "If I can't have it in the game and be able to play the game with it, I'm not going to show it in my pictures."  This is one of the reasons why I never ever used a reflective floor.   Yes, I can put it in my game.  Yes, I can take pictures. But if I try to play the game with a reflective floor, it slows down to a crawl. 

That, to me, is where dishonesty comes to play.  I've heard creators and seen creators basically admit to it.  "Yes, these reflective floors are lovely.  However, you'll never be able to use them and actually play the game!" 

I suppose if someone has the top of the line computer with all the bells and whistles, they might be able to, but not everyone has such a system.

If you have paint shop pro (PSP) it's a simple matter of going to Effects / reflections / sunburst.   Then, a screen pops up and you can put that stream of sunshine anywhere you want on the picture and control the intensity of the effect.   

I have no clue how you'd find it in photoshop.  I tried to learn photoshop, but it gave me a huge headache. 

You should edit your post instead of double posting  ;)

I think in CS3 it's under the same categories for the sunburst as well. I don't think you can do those effects with gimp either, but correct me if I am wrong.

I use Photoshop 6.0, and it's under Filters...Effects. Or Filters...Render. Something like that.

Basically everything I've ever downloaded from VitaSims was deleted the moment I got to see it in-game. My computer laughs at your polygon concerns, but I still won't put up with badly photoskinned items. SimCredible...I have a few items from them, but about half I initially downloaded had issues with bad textures or clipping.

I must admit there was a time where I thought of upgrading my computer just so I could play the reflective floors option. This is the noise my computer makes when I play the reflections: "erk, erk, erk, erk"

Then I came to my senses. Why rebuild my computer top to bottom for that silly feature when I can just delete the objects that cause it to slow down?

It's all very easy once you make the choice.
Back on topic, I doubt these creators actually play their sims with the mirrored floors. They just want to extend that impression to us plebs.

I ripped my downloads folder out today, and removed over 200 files before putting any CC back in. "Photoshopping" sucks. My computer is pretty nice, but it can barely handle neighbors on without an unacceptable amount of lag. Happily, cutting out all of that junk lowered my load time!

You'd be suprised at how fast your computer could go without excess CC.
You got the download organiser right? that gets rid of old meshes/recolors with no counter part.
Alos the compressorizer rocks.

If you mean sims 2 pack clean installer, then yes, I have it. Otherwise, no, whatzthat?

No, I believe he was talking about Delphy's download organizer that can be found at MTS2.

Right here (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=227925) crunk, because if you're anything like me, a good link never goes amiss!

Thanks guys! It looks a little complicated to get into tonight, but I've bookmarked it. I found a hair that is obviously missing its colors, as it is a big gaping hole in the top of the sims' head. Other than that nothing too strange.

*goes off to try to find something that actually relates to the thread* :p

I hate it when that happens! Right now I know for certain that I have meshes that don't have recolors, but I'm still having a hard time locating them and getting rid of them.  :'(

This thread is making me dread the clean out of my objects folder even more.  And I thought deleting all the sucky hair was a huge task!  Why did I put this stuff in my game in the first place?

Well, I never put in anything quite as bad as the stuff being shown here.  But I have some half-assed things, like b0rked custom beds, that need to go.

I don't have a super computer, but I've never had a problem making, say, the kitchen of a house have reflective floors.  One of my legacy houses has a shiny kitchen.  I don't get the people who decorate everything with them, but one room isn't killer.  Of course, I always try to use the fewest pieces of floor mirror possible.  I'm on a laptop with 2GB ram and a 256MB video card, though, so perfectly adequete specs, but not spectacular.

I've just sorted mine now, looks hella lot better and didn't take too long :]

When it comes to photoshopping previews, I remember Chaz's VictorAndRolf Hair being particularly bad so whacked it in my Downloads folder briefly, and behold!

(http://i33.tinypic.com/jz8apz.jpg)

Look at the image on the right (thats taken in my BodyShop), at the top of the braid there are two hole glitches in the mesh..whereas in the preview picture there is not, in fact it does look like someone has smudged the texture to hide them hrm. Also at the bottom of the braid, the loose hair in the preview picture looks fine whereas in reality its, er, on a weird 3D bit  ??? So again, looks like Chaz got his smudging tool out and hid that in the preview pictures.

 It also looks like he smudged the side of the head where the seam meets the face. It doesn't look as obviously messed with on the right side, but the left is pretty noticeable.  ::)

That hair looks like the braided bread you can get at specialty bakeries.
http://www.instructables.com/files/deriv/F2K/8SQY/F6B7T0YA/F2K8SQYF6B7T0YA.MEDIUM.jpg

Now I want challah. Of course no one here carries it. *sulks*

the hair is uggo. i improves it.

(http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo159/oolongtea29/yuckyyummy.jpg)

Roffle!  ;D

That's it, I have nothing else to add... except that this thread is win!

Muchos kudos to Millie for coming up with the idea. Cheers, mate!  ;D

Can someone explain this to me?
I suspect it has something to do with the rug or the vase's gaps, or transparencies or whatever. I don't know if the reflex rug does the same thing to other objects, but...

(http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo159/oolongtea29/rugvases.jpg)

??
Now that I think of it, it's not very common that objects are placed on rugs on the reflex screenshots. I could be wrong.
Or maybe it's a problem with the vase and bowl alone?

and into the delete bin this stuff goes!

Yeah, great Idea. Glad I thought of it muhahahahaha runs from the wrath of Calalily

I tend to use the same things over and over. I've had the sims 2 for almost 2 years and all the crappy things would just languish in there.

But I have things sorted in folders. Surfaces, chairs, hair, etc. Once you have a system, its pretty easy to get rid of all the crap. (also makes it easier to find the buggy files).

I don't know what the hell is going on with those vases and bowls - that is a new phenomenon to me.  ???


You deserve the credit.  I don't know my arse from my elbow with paystuffs.  Plus it meant I didn't have to start a thread. :P

Heh. Glad to bring a new paystuff glitch to light. It was weird. The vase and bowl's middle would disappear if you moved the table it was placed on one tile down. Move it over on the left or right, and it was fine. North/South direction, not so much. The camera angle and object angles were both the same, but even if I swivel the camera view maybe 90 degrees, the middle of that object would pop out.

So no 180 or 90 degree turns, or perpendicular movement. But parallel movement is okay for those objects. Got it!
Only not so much. Deleted that set after I posted the pic.

(http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo159/oolongtea29/arms.jpg)
 ???
this makes me sad.

arms=ugly. Plus, it doesn't even look like the same chair!

It isn't the same chair.

Fixed! Click refresh!

for what it's worth, the arms all all the same in that set.
"arms=ugly" I think I learned that equation in school. How prescient.

The arms look like these erasers I used to have in school  :D

Actually, it's not as photoshopped as it looks  :o. But it is photoshopped, to cover up an error.

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/Free_Show_Detail_Image1.jpg)

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/snapshot_75ec14b0_75ec1500.jpg)

Above the right eyebrow, the head pokes through the hair. NOT there on the preview pics.

Still bloody ugly though.

That is one of the ugliest Peggy hairs yet. It just looks like crap.

Millie could you provide us with a backshot as well? It's usually in the back that Peggy hides her little "gems".

Alexia, the back is fine. Surprisingly, no gaps  ;) Very short cut though - looks weird.


Edited.

*grumbles* I had to go back to smeggyzone as I'd deleted the fug from game already. You are cruel indeed, Alexia. Not one visit to the smegster in one day, but two, within a couple of hours. I do declare I feel quite suicidal at the moment. Plus, I have a migraine from all of the sparklies. That's how Smeggy is going to stop us. She put subliminal messages in the bling, saying DIE, pirate DIE.

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/Rhianwen_2006/snapshot_35ec333f_f5ec3341.jpg)

I wouldn't put that haircut on my worst enemy. Or my mother. Grossness abounds - maybe because there are no gaps, she had to uglify it some other way?

It's a backwards mullet...  :-X

Now let's all pool our moneyz and buy poor Millie a ton of rum. There there Millie, the rum'll clear your brain of subliminal messaging  :P (as well as most of your brain functions but yea you won't be depressed any more).
About the hair:
It's as I thought, this isn't a sparkly *new* mesh from peggy. It's an adaptation of the obligatory Raon/Rose/Peggy short coupe. She just added the long bangs upfront and possed her models so that the hair gives the impression of uniform length. She's such a LAZY money grabbing cow, isn't she?

(Millie thanks for taking the request!)

What the hell is up with the back of that hair? It looks like she had a bad encounter with a weed-eater.

Or she slept in the barn and the goat got hungry...

^That's the first thing that's made me laugh out loud for a while. ;D

The back of that hair is very WTF indeed.  I've never seen anyone with hair that's a foot shorter in the back than it is in the front.

OMG, that made me lol, big time, by the way, what does one expect from Peggy?

Payshit or freeshit, no difference, so, Peggy - Either free or pay - is crap, so yeah.

Anyways, that hair has got to be one of the worst ever, yeah, it's a basic(SHITTYBADFUGLYDISGUSTING) copy of a Rose hair.

Since I'm very new to the CC downloading thing, I google stuff often. Google Rose Hair, find... SPIDERS?

I'm not putting that in my photobucket, could barely stand to look at it...

http://www.photovault.com/show.php?cat=Orders/EntomologyInsects/SpidersAraneida?tg=OESVolume02/OESV02P08_17 (http://www.photovault.com/show.php?cat=Orders/EntomologyInsects/SpidersAraneida?tg=OESVolume02/OESV02P08_17)

have I missed this trend? I live in SoCal. I either haven't seen it or noticed it IRL, but this has exploded in sims hair.

I live in NorCal, and it's not a trend here either. Which I think is a very good thing.

XD

I googled it too, but I used "Rose sims 2", So :p

Dude, I know what you mean. I live in (cue dramatic music) The City, as everyone around here seems to call it, and I have seen some of the STRANGEST trends.

Oh my! That scared the shit out of me....  :'( I have a very severe case of arachnophobia, a spider being near me puts me into a panic attack and I start crying and can't breathe.

I wanna join in with the hair trend thing, but, I live in Wales, and we have to put up with Chavs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav).

Not as bad as they are in London and those big cities mind, I live on the island called Anglesey in North Wales, so the place is so small you only really get them in small places.

Typing in the dark FTL.

That's called ghetto in the US. Scene kids up here (the ones most likely to wear such a hair cut) aren't that bad. They're usually nice people, they just dress rather flamboyantly. In fact, up here, if you're a scene girl, it's hip to be ugly now. If you aren't ugly, you damn well better get an ugly haircut. *shrug*

I feel so normal around here. I'm a t-shirt and jeans kind of girl.

Is it just me, or does it look like the ends of that hair have an aura? There's a weird, shadowy "thing" around the ends. (Looks like it'd be about 5" worth of hair IRL)

It's not just you. As for what it actually is, I have no clue. Abuse of the blur tool? Alphas? Okay, I'm just throwing around words at this point.

Lots of Peggy hairs have that weird aura. I think it's from abusing the blur tool, but I don't really know how Peggy gets many of her fucked-up effects. This is a woman who thinks dark purple = black, and who thinks anyone in their right mind would want their Sims to have a reverse mullet.

Ahhh... ;D

I'm scatterbrained sometimes. I use PhotoShop all the time and didn't even think of that. Yeah, that must be what it is. I played around with the pic in PhotoShop a bit...fixed that aura right up. Blur can be a good thing, but too much is a very bad thing.



Edited to change thing to think before someone noticed...so, if you didn't notice, ignore this message.  ;)

To me that equals fear and insecurity. Like a girl putting a mountain of concealer on a zit and making it worse.  In a way I feel bad for her. (but not really).

Sorry if this is necromancy, but I has MOAR to add.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q186/jilly4/photoshopped.jpg)

If you didn't see a scary guy warning you, it's fine.  And seeing it's not just "I agree" it's not necromancy - I call it CPR.

That's some photoshopping - those green pillows are totally hidden in the preview.  I bet the polycount is through the roof too.

The mysteriously disappearing headboard is a nice effect too ;)

What gets me, is the fact there is supposed to be Truth In Advertising.  There is no truth in those pictures, but by being a paysite, I would consider that as an advertisement of their product.   Now, isn't that against the law in the US? 

I didn't notice that Ashbashtus!  :o It's completely consumed by that wall.


In for a penny, in for a pound.  ;)

I read that "Vitasims Preview" as "Victims Preview" and laughed myself silly.

The whole canopy seems to be missing. 

Actually, the canopy was separate, but I didn't want to eff up my game with all the polys

Oh, next thing you know it, you're going to tell me you put this stuff in your game and expect to actually play it. Didn't you know?  Paid content isn't for playing the game, it's for admiring.  You're supposed to take pictures of it, then photoshop them to make them look even better! 

Actually, I rarely ever "play" my game.  I build houses, make people to go in those houses, but I hardly play them--and then its just usually to do stories.  I just like the creating part, so I'll put something a little more high poly in because I assume I'm never actually going to play that house.

Me too. I build trillions of houses, make families for them, and don't actually play.  :P
My game throws a fit when there are too many polys, it just crashes and closes...

I think the headboard is just a wallpaper..  It's hard to tell from the photoshopped preview picture but it looks completely flat on the edges to me.  I don't have it in my game though, so maybe Jilly will see this and confirm it either way.  :)

It's not, it clips into the wall  :D

That's a "feature" of most Vitasims' objects, right?   ;)

And here I was going to give them the benefit of the doubt, thinking that maybe the headboard was part of the "seperate" canopy, but nope, major bleedage

WOW. Thats quite a big fat lie, even for Vitasims. I'd say that was TSR worthy.

Boolprop snapobjectstogrid false=
Crutch of the paysite.

Not really a photoshopped piece of work, but something I came across while playing just then.

I noticed a bath from one of Simtomatic's sets had writing in it.
I looked around the room but none of my wealls had writing on them, and I moved the camera angle in a way so I could see what it said.
It said something along the lines of "+x" on one line and on the next line it said "RIGHT".
Here's a screenie I took, it's weird.
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/bethbrit2001/bath.jpg)

Edit : After looking around the bath more, turns out it's just telling people who recolour the bath what sides are what, as there's a left, right, top and bottom written on diff sides of the bath.

*facepalm*

Maybe it's some kind of subliminal message to plant unconscious ideas. *You will pay for this stuff* When I first found PMBD I downloaded all kinds of stuff thinking "Now I can get the REALLY good stuff!" What a letdown. It's the same or worse than free stuff. Except Sussi. I kept all of Sussi's stuff.

Sorry if this is the wrong thread, because on Peggy's website, she doesn't really have Sims/Pets shown on her preview pictures. This is why I believe she doesn't. I don't know how long this bed has been in my game, but this house was the first time I had ever used it. It was really the only bed that wen with my white/gold theme I wanted. I originally had the matching endtables as well, but they literally do not match up with any OMSP, so I trashed em. They probably had atrocious polys anyways.

And let me have my moment of bare honesty. I thought this bed was pretty. I admit it. But I have a pet peeve when things just don't look right. So I actually got a chance to play it the other day and boy was I pissed. At first, I noticed Lele's kitty floating mid air. This bothered me all to hell. So later that night Lele had a male sim stay over, and he immediately went and crawled into bed. Well I just happened to catch him in the bed, and it's absolutely lovely how his body is contorted all about, while he has no covers to cover him up. I should have also gotten a side view, because his head slightly floats off the pillows as well.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/ScreenShot004-2.jpg)
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/ScreenShot005-3.jpg)

*Sorry if the first picture is gigantic! I've tried resizing in photo bucket three times, and it just refuses to shrink.*

Dude, that's either a very soft mattress or an alien life form disguised as a mattress eating your sim.

I'd like to think of it as both.  ;D

After your comment though, I looked at the last picture again, and on the right side of the bed, a pillow is just floating off of the side. No way would it be at all possible for a pillow to balance itself on the side of a bed.

My mother has a bedspread like that. It is nice, but not very well made as I can see from your pictures Sallybon. And if you are playing for it, surely it should be flawless or near to it. If they haven't mastered meshing, who the hell do they think they are charging for it?

Oh wait, this is paysite owner's mentality: Because they can.

Grr dont get me started on this over photoshopped crap, i hate it. I cant stand going onto a site and seeing something really pretty, an objects or even a sim, then i get it in game, it looks like crap!, i dont want to see photo shop skills , i want to see what im getting in the game! eve free sites do that crap.

My ankles hurt thinking of that poor sim sleeping with his feet flexed out like that.

There are more than a few beds where sims contort in strange poses while they're sleeping. While they do look very pretty, I delete them immediately if sims sleep on top of the covers, it just looks stupid.

Maybe it's some sort of appendage?  Like a fluffy cotton tentacle arm or some sort of covert periscope eye?  Or maybe Peggy just fails at physics?

Peggy definitely fails at physics. Just look at hair she makes ;D

Like the famous Wendy's hair!

I wish someone would fix that bed and make it available   ;)

I've never seen a bed work quite right unless it was using the eaxis bedding mesh.  Thing is, they look gorgeous - if all you are doing is a contest, then they are fine - but they suck if you play.

I used to think my game was broken because of all the weirdness that happens with custom beds.  Now I don't even bother, unless it uses the Eaxis bedding.  Otherwise, I just can't deal with the creepy factor of watching my Sims floating above the bed or having the bed absorb body parts.

I think this stuff should at least have a warning.  "Good for props only, not for gameplay!" 

I pretty much use the game for storytelling purposes only these days, the times when I actually sit down to play the game are getting rare, but I still can't get myself to download custom beds. It's fine if you just want a picture of a bedroom, but if later on you need a picture of a sim sleeping in that bed, you're well and truly fucked. I'd rather not put myself in a position where I've publihed a chapter that has a picture of a bed that simply isn't fit for use, but need a shot of someone sleeping in it nonetheless.
It's a real shame too because some of the prettiest objects out there are beds. I really have to restrain myself or I'd be downloading them all.

Out of curiosity, because I'm a total n00b when it comes to object creation, what is it about beds that's so hard to get right?

A lot of people lately have taken bed frou frou like pillows, blankets and such and made it into decorative objects separate from the bed itself. This way beds can retain maxis sheets that will cover sleeping contortions properly, and if you are so inclined you can take it off when your sims are sleeping, or leave it off all together. Best of all it can be used on more than one bed. I wish more people would do bedding that way instead of ignoring the awful sleeping animations.

I think alot of it is is involved in the animations.  There are a lot for the bed, so its probably a bit more than what any of the 3d programs can handle combined with simpe....  I guess this, anyway.

And I've done the foot blanket and throwpillow bloster thing as seperate items - no, I can't spell.

Bedding has a tremendous amount of joints. You'd have to reassign those joints and that would be a royal pain in the arse.  I don't think anyone would bother as there's really no point - you'd do one elaborate bedding, and it would fit one bed.  Better to save yourself the effort and find some way to incorporate the existing bedding.  Because even if you did do it (it's like about 300 joints from memory) it would be a pain in the arse to get right, and would take ages, and no one would care. :P 

What irks me more then retarded above the covers sleeping is really nice beds with crap comfort and energy. I mean wtf? I delete beds that done have a minimum of 8-8. My sims have lives goddamn it! They don't need to spend all day trying to get comfortable and have to sleep for half the day.

I just use Sims 2 Categorizer from Sims Wardrobe and just change the comfort and energy levels on custom beds.  Works fine for me (sometimes too good when they are maxed out on fitness levels - they only sleep 4-6 hours and are up and running around).

Thanks for explaining calalily, I think I get it. It does seem like too much trouble for something people probably don't care about. But I agree a little warning ('this bed looks like crap when used' this bed does not use Maxis bedding) would be nice.
I should probably put this in Ask a Pirate, but since we're on the subject, is there a way to tell from looking at them whether they use existing bedding? Forgetting for a minute that this is the Photoshop Shopped thread of course  ;)

You can assume that they don't if you don't see it - having made a few beds, I know what to look for now.  So if you see a flat round bed with a sheet draped over it, it's pretty safe to say that it will have a contortion bit.  If you don't see the standard Maxis bedding patterns, you can assume that it *might* be a custom sheet in there with no joints.  Mostly, if it looks like a  standard Maxis bed shape like here (http://calalily.sublimesims.net/images/stories/mymesh/oxbloodset.jpg) then it's probably okay - it should look like a bedding you see in your game (be careful to look at the shape of the pillows and the way the sheets are as opposed to the pattern).

But that's not to say that without maxis quilt as uppermost, the bedding is guaranteed to be crap.  For example, if the bed were thicker, width wise, you would not have that trouble.  Take my morgue bed Lookie at the picture (http://calalily.sublimesims.net/images/stories/mymesh/bleached.jpg)  :) That uses Maxis' bedding, as you can see in the upper right (a picture of the sim in the bed) the "slab" part of the morgue bed is placed higher over the existing bedding there - actually floating on top.  If you made a really high bed, you could get away with custom sheets - you'll have a little blergh look when they're getting in and out (they clip into the bed) but that can be reliably avoided for most of the time, and doesn't look like your sim is having a convulsion most of the time. Most importantly, you can take pictures of them sleeping, and they'll be fine.  You may have to alter your angle, but they'll look acceptable and non-floaty.

Thanks again, calalily! I've always avoided downloading beds because of this, but I think I'll give it another go. I have such a twitchy download finger, it's just too hard to resist.

That morgue set looks really cool by the way. Neat trick with the bedding. I could have really used that in my story. Serves me right for not checking out your site sooner  :-[

Aw thanks.  :-* But so that you get more of an idea, here's some more new bed meshes that use Maxis' sheeting, guaranteed not to look like contortions:
Woolcroft bottom of the page and there are more on other pages (http://www.simcasticdesigns.com/bedrooms-p4.html)
This moroccan bed - see even with extra pillows, it's still Maxis sheets (http://www.parsimonious.org/furniture2/bedroom/af-DarZinaBedroom.shtml)
Click Mobel and there is a bed on the first page (http://www.tarox4sims2.de/)
You can see the beds half way down the page - again same mesh for the sheets (http://mounes-neighbourhood.110mb.com/LeMorvanBedroom1.html)

If you can see the same shape of the bedding, you can download it with little problem.  :)

Yeah, I think I recognise the type. I didn't know that last site either, looks really cool, especially the seperate bedding and pillows. Nice!

And so my downloads folder comes a little bit closer to exploding again  ;D

Aww now I have more downloads I don't need. My poor compy.  :(

I agree with Blackdwarf. If someone creates something for pictures only, I wish it would be labeled. I think Nouk and I talked about this in an earlier thread, but peggy's stuff is basically meant for pictures only. Meaning her crap is so high poly, and not created correctly, it really only looks good by itself, no simmies.

In terms of fixing the bed, Cala I know you said it would be a pain, but would there be a way to raise that peggy bed so they are under the covers? I know you might run into issues with clipping with all the pillows and such, but would it even be possible?

Don't you love it when you have to go back and fix pay creators work because they are just to damn lazy?

I use some paysite stuff for my blog, including somepeggy hairs and I haveto agree. It's really pretty if you manage to position the camera juuuust right, which is kinda hard if your game screams out in terror and throws a hissy lagging fit at the amount of polies. But, I'm in it for the pretty pictures. Couldn't play with that crap though. Al the sims I actually play have decent free hair and outfits, the way god intended them to  ;D

I wouldn't touch her mesh because I believe that paysite crap *shouldn't* be fixed by anyone else.  It should go out in all it's crappy glory and the name shouldn't be spread around with the caveat "just a little free fixing and it's fine, please pay again". That gives free, good press to paysites, and suddenly their shit is everywhere - and they can justify selling it.  ;)

Looking at the picture, though, you could extend the legs and see how it looks, and then if that looks hinky you could possibly make the bed base thicker.  Depending on how the mesh is compiled, that might be easy or hard - because if the whole thing is part of one group, then you'd spend ages at it and possibly wouldn't work depending on the mapping, which would stretch.  It would be possible, but with the time and effort you'd have to take, it would be easier just to make a replica from scratch.

I'm sure that Peggy has made polys no issue - so if you're prepared for a high poly, it could be reliably reproduced in a short period of time.  If you wanted lower polys but with the same amount of detail, that would take slightly longer, but would be worth the effort. Going by previous beds, I'd say 2 days tops to produce a replica that didn't have the problems (and bonus you didn't have to credit goddamn Peggy).  

As far as clipping, the head of the sim would certainly clip into the pillows strewn around the bed, but that's not an issue if you don't want it to be - although obviously you wouldn't be able to take pictures of them sleeping in it, as raising the bed would disappear your sim unless you got rid of the ones lying around nearer the sim.  

Ahh thanks. That sounds more complicated than what it's worth. Maybe it's because I don't really mesh, but eh. As for high polys, I'm fine with that. I have a fairly decent computer, I just hate the fact knowing that one day my compy will explode into a thousand pieces with all my videogame obsessions on it.

Maybe Cala this is a sign that you should do a frilly fluffy bed!  :D

I've seen beds very similar in style, one being Holy Simoly.  I know there are others, I just don't remember where right now.   Wouldn't it be better to just create a deco mesh of pillows and duvet to go over such beds?  Extra pillows are going to clip, unless you make the bed longer and allow space above the sims head.  But then you would need to change the footprint unless you wanted it poking out through walls.  Then I believe that gets into changing the animation because then you've moved the mattress around and entry/exit points are now adjusted.  lol Wouldn't deco duvet and pillows work better?

As I've been chatting about beds, this too has occurred to me and intrigued me - can I do this without contortion? Of course, with compy gone past Halloween, existing projects for Halloween have lost their urgency. :D I might incorporate it into another theme that was waiting to be started before the compy was gone.  Calalily is a dilettante.  :D All pray that the compy will soon be repaired, and all argy bargy by bastard video card company will be over tomorrow.  :P


That could be a consideration - that you could make a deco duvet and remove it if needed.  But I don't think it would be necessary - you could mesh the bed with that included.  Of course, if you made the duvet, you could make it more versatile, but it might clip into bed bases, and not be as versatile as you wish.  I don't think you'd need to change the footprint or the animations though - I know I *don't* care if my sims are absorbed by the pillow or blankets, but I do care if they're contorted over the bed. 

If yours isn't already custom, you should really custom build your computer. I had an hp and that thing was a piece of shit. It was one of those mini towers too, so literally upgrading it was not an option. I tore the whole thing down, rebuilt it like 3 times, and now I have a gem. It can handle most games on the highest setting, hold all my sims downloads, not to mention it looks badass. The case I chose for it was called the Nemesis, and it looks like a transformer.

I probably spent 1000 dollars on it, and that's getting two new cases, three graphics cards, two power supplies, two motherboards, a monitor, speakers, and various other little parts likes fans and such.


I love the deco bed covers and pillows, but here is my issue. I have literally 5 decorative bed covers, and lord only knows how many pillows. And only two bed covers, and two sets of the pillows are repository. All those objects with textures I keep because I like the textures, but I hate the fact they are repository. I don't care if the bed eats my sim, as long as I can't see their twisted ankles, but I do care when I have to hassle over matching bed spreads. Plus I can never find pillows that look just right on the maxis beds, because maxis beds have those pillows on them. I'm sure they could be removed, and I wish I knew how, cause they just throw my decorative pillows off for me.

Next one will be custom - I found a shop that builds them custom, with 3 year warranties and no vista. :D At the moment though, I have a 3 year warranty - it's just all the bullshit that is bureaucracy taking me so long, and the people who made the video card that failed in a short amount of time are being little bitches about it. I don't have to deal with them, I just have to wait while the company that's fixing it deals with them. 


I understand that - for future reference on more specific problems though, have you tried my bedding deco in repository and non repository flavours (http://calalily.sublimesims.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=103&Itemid=135) and if so, how do you feel about the way in which the pillows are dealt with with that?  It'd be helpful to know what the problem would be in that circumstance, so that I could remove those problems in the construction.  :) I know I didn't like the maxis pillows peeking out at me, and from memory, I tried to reduce that as much as possible, if not absorb them.  But I don't know if that's what you're referring to.

Hmm no I didn't try those, but I will put them in a see how they look. As for the pillows:

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/miss_sabrina/sims2/ScreenShot004-1.jpg

See how in that picture you can still see the maxis pillows? That irks me. Just a minor pet peeve of mine.

fake edit: Cala, I should go to target or something and just take pictures of all the pretty beds, because I love your beddings! This is why I should check out signatures more often.

Oh well, as far as that, no, I wouldn't allow the seeing of Maxis pillows if they were left in the mesh.  I agree - that's damn ugly.  Of course, it might be easier to delete them all together in a custom bed - if they're not being seen or used, then get rid of those polys. They might need to be left in, for some reason, but it's a matter of angling the custom pillows and making them plump enough to hide the maxis ones. Particularly if they're non-repository you don't want a mismatch. 

And thank you  :-* - shouldn't have opened calalilysims - should have opened calalilybeddingandskintones. :D

That's the issue I have with deco pillows. They are pretty, but don't cover the maxis pillows. So then I end up lumping like 10 pillows on the bed, and then the bed just looks worse. I wonder if there is a way to do like an "invisible" color on the pillows, so even the maxis beds lose the pillows? Probably not, but I can dream!


 :D Yeah, you do have a lot of beddings. Now I wonder since you only have double beds pictured, do all the beddings work on single beds as well?

Yep, they do and they look just as awesome as single bed covers.

Yep - they do have single beds - Paden's right.  I never bother to take pictures of single beds though.  All my bedding goes on single beds. :D

And there are transparent bedding recolours: thanks to the magnificent pfish (http://linna.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=38311)

Where did you get those lovely pillows and blanket?

Simscave I think, let me see if I can't dig them up.

Mummysim at simsdevine has a gorgeous bed in a similar style, with removable pillows and blanket, the actual bedding is maxis.
http://simsdivine.com/home2/index.php?topic=4237.0
(scroll down thread for pictures)

I love love love that oval end table from that set. I use it in nearly all my houses.

Wait - do you dislike the repository or the non-repository stuff - I am confused.

Might be the spending all week in the hospital with a friend getting surgery...

Hi I know what they did, it wasn't photoshopped, but actually rendered in a 3D program.

They think it looks better and fools the unexpecting buyers...


Seraphira

A little comparison, if you please: I already posted the in-game shot in the thread for ugliest paysite finds, but I thought I'd show the difference between the picture of it on the site and what it really looks like:

(http://www.simsconnection.com/simsfiles/screenshots/byjannasmall.jpg)

It doesn't look too bad in the pictures, does it? No.

But it is bad:
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b33/nVoxhewson/worst.jpg)

Well, IMO it looks like shit in both pictures. That is false advertising though.

That is so blatantly false.  Simsconnection should be more ashamed than they are.  >:(

Ark, thoses hairs are really ugly,
I can't understand why some people download that crap!
Btw, the hair advertising look ugly too... don't think its a good pub, lol  :-\

That hair is really bad even in the original preview pictures,but i know for a fact that they look exactly as advertised in game as i used to have them for a minute.My guess is that either your graphics card is not the best or your settings are not on high.I am not defending paysites in no way,but they are not promising that their stuff would look as advertised with a crappy graphics card.
And this is also true about some other pictures i saw on earlier pages.

Non-respositoried items are 100% pure USDA Grade A *SUCK*, because they chew up many times MOAR RAMS AND DISK SPACES as a result, which has a dramatic, noticeable effect on your game's loading and run times. VERY SUCK.

As an example of how ATROCIOUSLY SUCK it can be, a GRIEVOUS OFFENDER, whose name I forget, consumed some *5-6 MBs* in its original form. After I stripped, debloated, and properly linked the file, guess how big it was? 15k! I don't think I need to tell you how an improvement of 400x might improve your game's performance. If this entire GAME had been coded that well, 640K would still be all anyone would ever need.

Well, hell, Pes, get to it and fix the damn game, then!
I want less load time! ;D

I love the repository method, but hate when people don't label the masters and slaves.

I have to say I agree with Pescado  ::)  I love repository.

Can you image if EA had done the game correctly and linked more textures?  Things would match!  And then we could have MOAR things because there would be less texture files hogging space.  ;D

I love it when things are repository. Makes my life easier. Not to mention, as Pes said, takes up less space. If I knew how I would fix everything that isn't repository in my game.

As for that hair, yes it is ugly. But I don't think you have your graphics up on the highest setting, which is what it looks like they have taken the picture with. If you look, their bricks look more defined, whereas yours are somewhat blurred. Not to mention both of their sims clothes (the sim in the background) is well defined, and yours is blurred. I would love to see how this hair looks on the highest setting though, not that it would probably look at better.  :P

Yep your pc is on cocaine :P

I feel sorry for Don living with such a fugly being :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlje02E1fnI

Kinda dumb, but made me think of it.  ;D

(http://That hair is really bad even in the original preview pictures,but i know for a fact that they look exactly as advertised in game as i used to have them for a minute.My guess is that either your graphics card is not the best or your settings are not on high.)

Hm, that's really weird because my other sims pictures and hairs look really good. I'll check my settings though.

I like making repository items that match existing eaxis items - like cloth that calls to the bedding.

Then people don't need a master mesh, just the game.

I also prefer to download repositoried items, for the same reasons - easier to match stuff.

When I see that a curtain set is repository, I grab that sucker so fast it makes my cat fall from the back of my chair. I lurve the repository method, makes my life easier when I build and decorate.

I am amazed and astounded by the fact that Peggy's latest masterpiece got such a chilly reception. I find it fantastic myself. I have put it in my game and played with it for many days at a time.

Please tell me my sacasm meter is busted. Please? :-\

No.  Buttercup comes in here every once in a while and spews just to rile us up. 

I see. It's as good a way to spend the day as any, I suppose.  ::)

Figured it'd be a matter of time before this happens again since Peggy hasn't been the "hot topic" of discussion in a while.   ::)

Anyways, back to derailed topic, I'm starting to become a big fan of repository objects myself.  Wish EA had done that method from the beginning, because it would sure be a space saver and a decorative plus on my end.

Light_Angel, saying you wish EA would have done something to make our lives easier is like asking for a miracle to occur. It just won't happen at all.

On another completely derailed topic, The Sims 3 looks terrible to me. I do like the idea that everything shares the textures, but their heads just look like gobs of clay onto of bodies. Not to mention it looks as if it would be extremely difficult to create for since if has the new texture sharing system. And in a lot of the screenies I have seen, it looks like they just re-created Sims 2 furniture for Sims 3.

:D  I know, right?  EA doesn't want our moniez bad enough for our input for making the game even cooler, yet they're willing to milk the franchise for every single penny they can while destroying slowly it in the process with some of their new "innovations".  (in-game ads for the upcoming Sims 3 is not very attractive to me. Neither is the one neighborhood deal, limited installations, SecuRom, etc.)

When it comes to Sims 3, I'm not impressed by the graphics at all... and I'm really hoping there's a way to hack the heck out of those genetics if I ever change my mind and decide to get it.  The eyes on the new sims just freak me out for some reason. 

I am amazed and astounded by your uncanny skills of working the expression "amazed and astounded" in 99% of your posts.

About The Sims 3, I don't find myself tempted by it. I'm a bit of a control freak and the idea that other Sim families are carrying on with their affairs without me to supervise them while I'm playing a certain lot scares the bejeesus out of me. That and, agreeing with Light_Angel (and risking sounding like a 12), I don't think the Sims are pwetty enough. They don't look like humans nor like Sims, and there's something about their general eye area that is rather unsettling to me.

I imagine that EA will put in some sort of option that turns neighborhood aging off. On the other hand, it is EA, so they could very well do no such thing.

On Sims 3, I'm annoyed that they're just introducing the hue sliders for hair/skin color. Having separate shoes is a HUGE NEW DEAL GUYS.  ::)

Those two options were in the console games! I wonder just how hard it would have been to update the PC Create A Sim.   :(

I know I'll still end up getting Sims 3.  I don't think there's a sims game I haven't had to have.  I'm such a junkie.

Anyway, back on topic. 

Wow, such bad craftmanship all over the place.  

I know this has been talked about to death but I swear though, people could make an entire thread on some of those Donation hairs from Peggy.  Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't they like one of the most expensive sites around?  Anyway, I can't believe how bad some of these meshes look in my game.  I've downloaded hair meshes made from begining hair meshers from free sites that look ten times better.  

I honestly don't understand how some of these donation sites stay afloat (Arrr) with people charging for such shitty work.    

Blubbercup, I'm amazed and astounded that no one drown your silly ass when you were a baby troll... FOAD, DIAF, STFU, GTFO. Use this hump day to go and find yourself some while you're at it, it might do your stupid Peggy-blinded eyes some good. You're annoying enough that a saint would bash your head in with a rock...

To the rest of you, I am so not going to get Sims 3 for most of the reasons pointed out already and the SecuROM bullshit, but ya'll know me well enough that you figured I'd say that. :D

See, I like that EAxis took a different approach with TS3.  I don't know if I like the whole seamless neighborhood idea either, but they had to do something like that, or they'd be releasing a Sims 2 with slightly better graphics and a few differences in gameplay.  TS1 had a lot to be improved on; TS2, not so much.  I'd rather they release something a little bizarre but different than the same thing again.

Will I be buying it?  With Securom, of course not.  Will I Arr! it?  Maybe.  I think I'll see what people are saying first.

 :D I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. It pisses me off that they can't leave well enough alone with the sims' appearance. I mean, free cc creators (like Enayla and Anva) made the sims themselves look beautiful, like characters out of some role-playing games. Why can't EAxis hire some actual talent to make skins and other things for them?

Because that would cost them money! They don't wanna pay anyone to make anything decent when there are people out there that will do it for free! Cheap bastards, aren't they?

Oh dear gosh I wondered when that troll would pop up again...

I hope you take your beer goggles off before you go to bed Blubbercup, there's nothing more annoying and painful than having them things on your face in bed, especially seeing as yours must be extra thick to even think that Peggy's stuff is brilliant.
Yes she has some, not all decent styles, but 1, she's pay, 2, it seems like her hairs and other stuff are 5 minute jobs just to keep the subcribers happy and 3, her site visits make me feel like I'm having a seizure, she really needs a mentor to show her how everything is done properly, not in the Peggy way.
When will you open your eyes?!

We were having this discussion in my class tonight.  And how those who write code for programs now don't care about "tight code".  Or as Pescado calls it, bloated.  This instructor wrote original programs in Assembly language, when you had virtually no memory because it was expensive.  And it was done on punch cards.  So writing good code was important.  Now, with the current languages, there easier to learn, more people know them, and therefore they can hire anyone to write the code.  As long as it does what its supposed to, its ok.  Doesn't matter if it has twice as many lines as necessary.  As long as its cost effective.

I know, its horrid - you see it in web design too - I learned to code html in notepad.  And its clean, crisp, and easy to sort through, even after years of not coding anything.  The web building software is -not- clean or clear.

Only thing I've ever used Dreamweaver for, is to see how my code looks as I code it the old fashioned way.

I only use a text editor for html and css as well.  I can keep it neat and tidy then.  I have Dreamweaver, but I find its easier to check the layout using the browser.

I use notepad as well. I learned it in notepad. Once, I switched over to web design software, it was such a bitch to get it to leave me alone.  :-\

Ditto.  That, and for keeping an openable site map on my harddrive.  That's pretty damn handy in itself.  I'm back to Notepad in a pinch, though.  I was taking a Computers in Ed course a few years back, and we had an assignment to make a web quest.  Well, I wanted to go on vacation, so I ended up coding it in Notepad on my friend's computer.  She wasn't a techie and that was the only thing she had on the computer you could edit a webpage in.  It was a fun bit of nostalgia, refreshing an IE page with Notepad open on the other half of the screen.  :D

So,is the rule here that everyone has to hate Peggy in order to be allowed to post? How come if someone has an opinion different than the over-a-1000-post-members'  they have to GTFO,STFU and everything else you said >:( ? Does everyone have to be a sheeple and agree with your opinion? Last time i checked this wasn't TSR...

"Don't you dare have a different opinion,you PMBD newbie or we'll all jump on you and scare you from ever trying to post here again !!!"

The way you all treat new members on this forum is ridiculous  >:( !

Buttercup is a known troll ::) Maybe you should read a little more before attacking us, huh?

And Peggy's hair is notoriously shite most of the time - its filled with gaps, has horrendous colours and some hairs can never ever be alpha edited because she fucked up the meshing.

Oh and - er, last I checked Peggy owned a paysite - we hate paysites, so go figure carebear ::)

I can't be bothered to go find it right now,but i read earlier a Hecubus post where she said something like...There's nothing wrong with saying that you like a creation ,even if it's pay...

And also,i thought that you hate the pay part out of the paysites and just want them to go free...

Yes but I say it again - Buttercup is a known troll and shit stirrer so no matter what she says people will bitch at her/him/it. So we can't attack trolls anymore? But like, thats what we do on Troll Sundays (talking of that - where have they all gone? Its been sad times without an active Troll Sunday!) :'(

I hate both - Peggy's site is pay, her hair is shite and overall she's down right horrid. If you expect to be left alone when praising Peggy then you're at the wrong forum!


Also, starting a debate without backing yourself up because you can't be bothered? FAIL!

Yeah,i keep forgetting that noone is allowed to have a different opinion here...You think her stuff is shitty and that's fine.But there happen to be lots of people that don't agree about that.Just look at all the Peggy recolors,retextures,edits all over the place...Peggy's hair happen to be the most used in almost every site's previews,so obviously there are people that like it.Your opinion is not the law!

Right, so why did you attack Paden's opinion then? Its only her opinion and not everyone elses (well, here it might be slightly different). Yes, there are lots of recolours done of her hair but what people do not realise is that her hair is gappy, uneditable and above all is high polycount which means it will slow down the games of anyone on a low end computer.

I hate Peggy's hair, I voice that I hate it and how she swindles people out of money (the naive people that is) and uses a game she did not create to make profit. Others think differently and they voice their opinions (and back them up if needed unlike you). Don't like it? Stay away from here - we love debate and don't like people telling us what to think and like. Yes some of us maybe a little harsh but thats PMBD for you.

Last time I checked, no one had taken yours or Buttercup's money, banned you and deleted your account, so we're like TSR...how?


The way we treat dickheads is deserved.  This isn't www.freepaysiteads.com, you know.  This is paysites must be destroyed.

So.. did carebear get the idea that flubberbut is a known troll and therefore a target for anything we care to lob at it? (I still think blubberflub is peggy herself.)

Not that I really think it matters. It sounded more like carebear was upset that we (most of us- if not all) think that peggy's hairs suck and freely and openly admit it.

Silly, if you think about it. This site isn't called "Sunshine, Rainbows and HappynessLand". It's called Paysites Must Be Destroyed. Peggy=paysite. Peggy=paysite w/crappy, gappy hairs=more destroy-worthy.

I'd like to take a moment to point out that it's not new members that we treat poorly. It's idiots.

Coming into the phorum and immediately pointing fingers and being a dipshit is a sure-fire way to get flamed.

And on that same note, it just so happens that most of the not new members were never dumb enough to get treated poorly when they were new members, and thus, they've become old members. Teh logic. It wurks.


Most of what peggy says is 'You like my stuff - I so glad', even in response to people complaining about her stuff. I think buttheadfup is just a 12 with an insatiable desire to be an attention-whore.

Oh man, carebear, you have no idea how these guys chewed me up and spat me out for being a fracking idiot in my first posts.  :D Take a deep breath, grow a thicker skin and try again. (Apologising for idiocy helps too, in my experience, as long as you do it over and over). And PMBD used to be a lot rougher too. These days people actually explain why idiots get chewed up. Used to be you just got a lot of nifty kittehs and a swift kick in the backside.

Use that fat wad of grey tissue you've got in your skull, please. Would you go to a republican rally to stick up for a democrat and get uppity when people get pissed off? No? So don't come to PMBD to stick up for Peggy. There's not much more to it really. There's enough forums out there worshipping her and her consorts, maybe those would be better for you?

I'm a new member and I've been treated great. Granted I lurked for a while and didnt start posting a million times in every thread. IMO, they're welcoming to new members who know how to read an FAQ, back up arguements, and are okay with being sporked a few times. This is an adult forum. Its not a fake-ass glitter funfest where everyone is wonderful and luuuuved. Idiots and trolls don't get love on this site. Deal

I've read threads here off and on before I joined recently. I read all the newer threads before really posting an answer and everyone here is treated with respect even when they do not agree on something. But it is handled like adults, not like children on a playground. And people know how to write, not something that is shorthand for texting people on PDA's or phones. I understand not all the members here are fluent in English as they are from other countries and English is not their first language. That is different.

Reading is your friend. The FAQ is your friend. Lurking is your friend. If you need to ask a question, there is a thread specifically for that.

 :D   ahahaha    :D

That made my day...full of win!

Hey, carebear! Shift bar, learn how to use the fucking thing and stop whining because I refuse to worship someone that creates meshes with more holes than a fisherman's net! I don't treat every new kid like shit, nor do I smash them with words if they have a different opinion. But trolls are fair game and had you bothered to find out some shit, I wouldn't be smacking you with the sarcasm stick, you reject from a glitter factory! You'd best take a different name and call yourself BitchyBear, because carebear doesn't suit someone that begins to bitch and moan the first time they bother to post. So fuck off and shut up.

I am so sigging that! :D

Hah. Enjoy :)

What the fuckity fuck... :D
Right, so since I've got over 1000 posts, I fully expect everyone here to agree that I am awesome, that I can haz fangurls....
 ::)
You obviously have trouble taking your own advice. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, you've said yours...Paden has hers...YOU disagreed and snarked on hers, but she can't disagree and snark on yours?
Hippo-crit much?

You don't like the way the phorum is? Clicky the X and piss off, eh?

Well, I do agree that the forum hive-mind feels strongly about certain thing. Things like paysites, which, you may have noticed, we would very much like to destroy. If we didn't allow you to speak your mind, your posts would get deleted or ignored, as would any posts that go against the hive-mind. That doesn't happen. You post, we read, we think, we type up counterargument/snappy insult/cat macro. Speak your mind all you want and please, do have opinions of your own. But where did you get the idea that just because it's your opinion, we have to roll over and accept it for what it is? Opinions can't be wrong, I know, but people can be misinformed and base their opinions on utter crap. Fact trumps opinion every time.

Do you know why some forums are so happy and fuzzy and sweet? Because every controversial topic is banned and every snarky post deleted. Trust me, carebear-land would be a lot less sunny if everyone was allowed to speak their minds. Here, everything's out in the open. I would've thought you'd be all for that. Otherwise you can always tell Pescado your wittle feewings got hurt and demand he delete every insultng post. Tha should be fun.  ;D

I can just see the pancake bunny now. And Ry, you know damn well I've been a fan girl of yours since day one! :D Always haz been.

*shh, Paden. I thought our relationship was a sekrit. Mac in the box might find out*
Looks around for slow moving boxes...
 :D
I so totally fangurl you, too.
With all my shriveled, pirate heart!  :-*

Ah, but Ry we fangirl over those who deserve it ;) Unlike Princess Gappy ::)

And awww shame, seems carebear has gone back into hibernation. She quite obviously realised that slagging us off isn't a wise move. Shame though, we haven't had a troll attack (come on, she was soooo a troll) in ages :'(

Yes, yes. But we can't all be as awesome as Nouk, so where do we draw the line?  :D

The trolls these days are like rodeo failures, can't stay with it for more than eight seconds... Yeeeeehaw! *splat* They just don't have the stamina to make it. :D

I now have a vivid image of a carebear on a rodeo :D

When it comes to Nouk, you can't help but fangirl her. Well, except the few on Simsecret ::)

Slightly OT - after all that Pes did for GoS, (http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?board=16.0) some of its members seemed to take offensive to him[/url]! Distillerslover's post made me laugh though! When it comes to fangirling, there are those who don't deserve it (and those who do fsngirl them do it just cause its 'cool') and those who do. Pes deserves it :D

So, despite the fact that Pescado just saved their boards, has more technical skill in his little finger than they can conceive of, and is probably old enough to be their great grandfather, a couple of 12s want to lecture him on why he should be NICER???   ;D  Made my day!

Hey Anyer, I followed the link but it just took me to an index of threads. Which one in particular?
Ha! GoS News: DEATH TO CALALILY!!

Gee Cal, your demise is wished by so many. You should be tickled pink  :D

Edited: It was news boxed here (PMBD) and now in GoS, Pescado fangurling? Oh the idea just sends shivers down my spine!

The thing that amuses me, is that Pescado's all 'Death to Calalily' and stuff, but no real action.  I do believe Pescado is Calalily's fangirl.  Why?  I have no idea.  (but I suspect its due to Pescado's secret love for Calalily  ;D )

Its been proven in my game that Pescado attracts Calalily and vice versa.  Although I did just do a complete reinstall so we shall see what the future holds for them and if they will be drawn back to each other.  ;D

"Attention: Your God Demands a Sacrifice!"   :D

Pescado and Calalily made some cute Calcado's in my game :D

Thanks. Read it. Nearly Barfed. And now I am off to sleep.
Being sick is not pleasant.. *rubs eyes*

Uh. Pescado fangirls.  I will admit the man is most hilarious, and his persona most stereotypically amusing, but fangirl? Nowai. 


I am - made my night to see it there. :D Right under my avi and all. And it's still there too. Showed coolington and the kids - worldwide death threats. :D


*see pic below*


*see pic below*


(http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/4207/nogg5.jpg)

Stop grossing people out. Why would a married hermit like another married hermit.

UNLESS THEY'RE MARRIED TO EACHOTHER HAHAHAHAHAHAHeinszweidrei

*runs for her life*

Unfair. Not a hermit - I left the house last week for three hours. :D

And you better run if you're inferring that Coolington and Pescado are one. *shudder*.

* tries to imagine Pescado folding laundry while Calaliy furiously types away at her thesis*

Buahaha. *shudders*

Now I can never sleep again.

They find Pescado offensive because he is offensive, proudly and purposefully so. Fangirling him is like trying to fuck a wheat thresher.

This statement has made my day.

Hmmm.  All this talk of Calalily and Pescado married gives me a fiendishly brilliant idea.  Got Cala, now anyone know where Pescado's self sim is . . . .

I just made my own based on the pic on PMBD's frontpage

You can get Pescado at MATY: http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,1425.0.html

Wait, wait, the Pescado sim is made with something from TSR? I happen to find that extremely lulzie :D

Well, more appreciation then Calalily - but you've got to agree bashing someone who fixed your forum for you is a tad disrespectful :D I love it that the second one, distillerslover, still bashed him when Ligen replied without complaint!

Excellent *grins diabolically*.  Now to build a pretty pink house full of lots of frilly things for our loved up couple :>

pics please?

You do realise the reason why Calalily has not responded? Her head just exploded.

Loved the NO macro though, Cal, is it a baby or a 13 year old kid? I don't know but I :D

I don't believe anything fruitful could come from Pescalalily mating.   :P

I don't know, but I've been waiting to use it for a while - it's fucking hilarious.  :D

ok... I am going to steal the topic back for a second  lol

I saw this in the updated booty from reflexsims and it nearly tore my eyes out!  I would never download this because I have no idea what it actually looks like but a glowing ball of light.


(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f11/littletoes30/marakesh_bedroom.jpg)

By squinting really hard and adding wrinkles to my face, I can see it is some sort of bed.  And as soon as anyone got in it, it would crush that aluminum-looking frame.

That is the funniest thing I’ve seen in these past few days, if anyone deserves a fangirl, it’s got to be Paden.

What are those rods hanging next to the ceiling? Are those supposed to be lights, or part of the curtain? They seem to just float there, unattached.

It would appear to be some magic levitating beady-curtainy thing.

Those are in-game photos or photos advertised by ReflexSims?

I couldn't force my Sims in there, it's just too cruel.

  that is the ad picture from the site....

 I did download it to get a better look.... it looks much better in the game ( forgot to take pictures of bed sorry )  They made it look worse in the pictures instead of better! still not all that great  tho... the bed is actually still very shinny.

And that is exactly why mirrored walls, floors, and ceilings are meant to be used sparingly.

It looks like a bunch of crystals floating about, held together with nothing but magical pixie dust.  It's creeping me out.

I decided to face the peril and actually tried this in my game:


This room has many more delights to discover...


Now, before you think I'm all doom and gloom, just because these are pay items,  I'll show you I can be merciful too.


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While seeing the many lovely attributes of this marvelous room, I wasn't sure if I should use it in every Sim bedroom I had.  I figured a little decoration would help liven it up, and make it a little more...cozy.

That's awesome, I think I need that whole room in my game now that I see your last picture Black Dwarf!  :D

I knew you'd feel that way!  I've found that once you add an anchor to any room, it becomes irresistable.  Paysites need to use moar anchors.

Haha, okay then, gimme time to finish decorating their new house and you shall see :D

I'm tempted to snag that for some e-holiday cards, BlackDwarf!

Blinky-twinkle snow obscures makes everything better.   :D 

I was hoping someone would show it in game.  Recolour fail indeed.  :D

Black Dwarf. such strength you have, woman, to let that monstrosity even anywhere near your game.

It's freakin' HIDEOUS. It looks like a high class bordello room,that a cheap hooker decorated. Well, you know what they say.. money doesn't buy you taste.  ;)

Maybe the recolor isn't really fail, but is some super special thing that only paysites and folks who support paysites will understand.  Nah, I'm not buying it either.   ;D


I'm normally of the opinion that blinkies suck, but in this case, they do help add something to the room.  The room needed Moar Glitz. 


It's fine line between strength and stupidity, and I might have crossed it with that one.  Of course, labeling the folder "STUPID CRAP, REMOVE FROM GAME ASAP!" might show I'm not completely stupid.


That is such a insult to high class bordellos and cheap hookers everywhere!  I think it looks like Hanna Montana's inbreed three dollar whore cousin dreamed that room up one night.  "Ohhh, it's so sparkly!"

Just because one is poor, that doesn't mean one lacks taste. I think it looks more like something Paris Hilton would enjoy.

Paris Hilton is lower than a three dollar whore. 

You're right though, income has little to nothing to do with class or dignity, or taste. 

Completely OT but I have pics of Calcado, but don;t wanna ruin this topic.

Suggestions?

Cheap for me is a "look" rather than a social stage. You know, where one looks like they have just finished rolling around in a $2 shop. (Aussie equivalent of your .99 cent store).

I know poor people who are "thrifty" and tightly "budgeted" and they never look cheap :)
(Can't say that for some wealthy people tho)

Make a new thread for your neighborhood in Crew Quarters?

Nooo I'll get macro'd!
Lol, I'll just see if I can pop Calcado up somewhere ;]

You shouldn't get macro'd for making a new thread about that in Crew Quarters that is what it is there for is to share pics and stories of our pirate self sims.

Lol, still, I'll tap myself on the back anyway for not wanting to cause any 12'ness or newbness :p
I did it anyway, and for some reason I'm still bracing myself, I'm not looking forward to Pescado or Cala seeing it teeheehee.

You will be ok. :)  I liked them they were good.

Reflexsims has made super extra gaudy objects that don't look good close-up, melt into walls and other object's footprints, and reveal their bad meshes with any form of recoloring.

Shocking. ::)
This wouldn't be anything of note other than that this set is really gaudy. The bed is wearing bling.

  I forgot to take in game pictures of that set before I deleted it. I could not figure out that ceiling thing that came with the set. It made no sense to me at all . It did not even fit over the bed right.

I hurted myself ROFFLE-ing. It is all your fault.  :P

This entire thread is EPIC WIN. (The topic and pix, not the crap payfiles, naturally.)

Hey, I'm new here. And I apologize for grave digging, but I saw this thread, and I had to post this.

(http://lenlenchan.ath.cx/floatingstove.jpg)

The stove doesn't want to go on any of the counters, and willingly floats in mid air.

Oh, and the two shelves to the right don't sit flush to each other like they do in the TSR example, even when I have the cheats on. The game chucks a fit.

I can't believe I paid for that crap.


Edit: Also, sorry for the quality of the TDR example. It was an insert into the main picture for the "Mono" kitchen, and I had to blow it up to match the other pictures. I can also resize the overall image if you want.

Nah, this thread can always use a new entry. Sorry you paid for that crap.

Welcome Rum Pig!
Ouch, that set is quite..crap?
Sorry you paid for it, and it's a shame you didn't find here before you bought it :[

That's awful - and I agree - sorry you paid for it.  As for the quality of the picture - well, it represents the quality of the content pictured. :D I wouldn't worry about it.

Oh god. I always, always find myself hating the stovetops like that - in fact, I feel that a detached stovetop is a damn good reason to not put a kitchen set into your downloads folder. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love them in a real home (we've even got a nice one in my house), but they're just silly in the game, because you have to use cheats to place them onto a counter, which leads to a usable counter underneath the stove unless you place something with an invisible recolor onto that counter (which, in turn, makes clicking on the stovetop more difficult at times. Not a problem when you have to make your sims cook something, but a big problem when you want them to go clean the thing). Otherwise, sims are preparing their food on the damn stove, and let's not even get into the fact that all of the standard oven features are intact on these stovetops, so they'll be magically inserting food into cabinets, where they will be cooked. Now, I'm not really sure on all of the logistics and if it'd even be possible to make a custom stovetop that only cooks certain meals (pancakes, omlettes, mac and cheese, and any other food that doesn't go into the oven), but if it could be done, it'd make the stovetops more feasible, at least. And it'd be even better if they'd be made as a whole object with the counter underneath them so that the use of the object would actually be logical (at the very least, it'd prevent the serving platters and empty plates from being placed into the stove, as well as prevent the whole "I'm going to set up my wooden cutting board on the stove and start seasoning my salmon right there" thing; ugh, seasonings all over the stove. That thing would have to get filthy every use).

Then again, I really only see these stovetops made by paysite creators, and why would they ever follow logic or try to make it work properly?

I think that's possible, and I could swear it's been done with something before. I just can't remember what. Anyway, the grill only lets you cook certain foods and the microwave and toaster also have selective cooking. I would imagine that it's a matter of taking a cue from those objects and customizing it to suit your needs.

I think I have some of these countertop stoves that are not usable for cooking turkey etc. I always wondered what was wrong with my fridge or the cooking skills that this wasn't in the menue until I noticed that the stove itself was missing.
I don't recall where I downloaded these stoves though, might have been 4esf, simscredible or Murano, and I don't have these files anymore so that I cannot look. If you are interested I could ask my sister, she might still use them.

So yes, it is possible, but if this is really useful is questionable.

Was it this cooking hob?

http://modthesims2.com/download.php?t=127495

Nope, this was at a time when I had only 4ESF, 11dots, ATS, Simscredible and Murano kitchens in my game (yes, I know, stupid paysite crap... but everyone has to learn.)
A lot of the 4ESF stoves are made to be placed on counters though.

Thanks for all the comments. I still like the kitchen as a whole -- the look -- I have a heap of modern looking homes (which I found on free-sites) and I wanted modern interiors for them. That stovetop just annoyed the heck out of me though.

I only found this site after buying it -- I wish I'd found this place sooner! I'm going to try that one from modthesims though.

edit:

(http://img5.travelblog.org/Photos/47851/235386/t/1898488-Bundy-Rum-1.jpg)

;)

Mine! Mine! Mine! All mine! Back back back!! *drinks happily then passes out before there's too much gone*

I think it'd be fun to have this set, because the animations would be oh so amusing. More for others than for you, sadly. You know what they say.

Tragedy is when I stub my toe. Comedy is when you fall and die in a sewer.

Hmm. I don't think it was a 4ESF one; I had the first couple of their stoves like that, and they had the full oven capabilities - they may have changed this with the ones after that, though, for all I know. But, the one from MTS2 is really cute (on top of working properly); I hadn't seen it before.

I don't get most new mesh kitchen sets anyway.  I mean counters are cubes--most of them could be done recolors of the EAXIS counters with very little trouble.  Ditto for 80% of the refrigerators and stoves.  I have a few clogging up my downloads folder. but not nearly as many as I do bathrooms or other sets.

 I agree with that!  I have a bazillion recolours of eaxis appliances so I don't need yet another white fridge lol I don't use many custom counters either, unless they are something very different than just clones of the same ol ones.

I agree - I don't get the obsession with counters all the time, not if you can recolour to suit.  If I wanted to make new counters, they'd be radically different ones.

I do like the maxis match counters and more done by Mary Lou and Numenor though.  Adds a bit more options, and I use the cheap set all the time, because I love its look the best.

I'm of a slightly different mind.  Since counters ARE glorified boxes, as long as the meshed shape is different from a Maxis counter, I don't think it's a big deal to add a couple of custom ones in.  Provided they're well made and all, since polycounts on A BOX aren't too high if done right.

Now, custom couches I have no use for.  I just love the NL modular and blake_boy from MTS2's modular couches too much to really use anything else, so I don't need anything else!  I really need to weed out some of my custom chairs and dining tables as well.

Agreed. Not sure if these: http://www.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=278085 are radically different. But for work like this I definitely make room for. After almost a year of not using dozens of counters and counter recolors, I just deleted them all except for these and a few maxis recolors.

I'm such a download junkie that I don't even realize how much I don't use until I force myself to look at it all and delete a few things now and then.

ETA: shite. everytime I check the buggybooz link to his kitchen set, it's updated. There's just no rest when this set is concered. It seems like every month she's added something new to it and it just keeps getting better. :o

That's also the only custom kitchen set I have, oolongteadrinker. I love the way that trash compactor has the option of looking like a trashcan underneath the counter.

That is my favorite kitchen set ever! I use it in almost every house I have. When, I try and download something different, I usually just toss it because theres just no beating that set. :-*

I really love that set too! I use it in all of my modern/contemporary houses :)
What I love about it, is the fact it's just so well made, it's seamless and everything works. Nothing pay has ever ever beaten it!
Thanks for the heads up about the update guys, I am downloading it as we speak :D

Oh wow, thats a really nice set oolongteadrinker!

heh. I'm also guilty of using it over and over again. I keep meaning to make period houses, but that set keeps dragging me to the modern age.

But as much as I love the fact that she keeps adding to the set and improving it, I hope she just finishes it already. That way she can make new room sets. I know this makes me the greediest, most ungratefullest fan ever. //hangs head in shame//

yummy! I do love that set! It is one of the few custom kitchens I do use.

I have it in every single house I make, as do I have Blake_Boy's mod sofa :D Love them!

 :D I don't go that far, but I always do wonder when she will release something more desperately needed, like more freakin' burglar alarms! I only have the default maxis one because I have yet to find an awesome one for my houses. Does that make me picky or what? *also hangs head in shame*

Let's drown our sorrows in rum :P

Curses! I didnt even think about downloading burglar alarms. There goes my downloads folder again. I'm guess I'll be joining Dee in her quest for nomable burglar alarms. ;)

I use this one:

http://simsky.parsimonious.org/ensimsky.php

Scroll down until you see the "Multi Alarm." Fire alarm and burglar alarm.

I remember seeing a picture that you could place over burglar alarms. It was a while ago though, so I'm going to have to pluck at my beains to remember where I saw them. ???

I think there might be one in Parsimonious' 5th anniversary things, I can check in a few.

About Simsky's Multi alarm: Hmm but that's also a Maxis thing. I don't mind having a smoke alarm act as both, but they look horribly out of place in a lot of my houses. It's a maxis thing, I use so much CC that Maxis made stuff really sticks out like a sore thumb. :D

Tapthatbooty: I am sure you can use quite a few cheats to "layer" paintings over burglar alarms, but that's not really what I am after. Bah don't worry about it guys. I have looked all over the web, and it's an item that it's limited in choice because most people don't care about stupid details like that. However it HAS been awhile since I've been on a downloading spree, (apart from checking the item threads on here) so they may be newer developments, but I doubt it. Prove me wrong people, prove me wrong! :P

I need some time off to bum around and play some games. I feel like I haven't taken a holiday forever. I miss my Sims :(

So what sort of things would be fitting with your houses?

Oh deelink I must have misunderstood the posts.  :P Well there are these nifty hidden alarms:

http://www.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=95682
http://www.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=87642
http://www.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=131388

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/pickles_pirate/burglaralarm.jpg)


Found it in my game, but for the life of me I cannot find it at Parsimonious itself. If you like the look of it I can pm it to you or put it on mediafryer or something though, at least it'd save Parsim's bandwidth that way (unless anyone from there objects of course!).

Also there is a smoke alarm (the bell next to that picture) in wood and black and an antiquey telephone (below the bell) that I apparently got at the same time, if those are wanted.

YES! both very much wanted and would be appreciated! I'd be forever grateful if you shared those two objects. They're fantabulous!

PM sent then.




eta  - I found the smoke alarm and telephone in this set (http://www.parsimonious.org/furniture2/kitchen/k8-Woodcutters_Kitchen.shtml) when I looked again, but still can't find the pesky alarm covers.

THANK YOU!

sorry for the caps.   ;)
These are perfect for my game!

there's 6 burgler alarm covers in teh woodcutters kit download pkg,  it's not in the singles section.   :P

I also want to say thank you for the "Woodcutter's alarms" they are so cute and I hadn't seen them before!

:D

Don't know if anyone is interested in this, but Dr. Pixel made a fern that is actually a fire alarm. I use it for my historical houses, as nothing says "modern" like that stupid light on the maxis one. It's on the dreaded TSR.

http://www.thesimsresource.com/collections/sims2-medieval/downloads/details/category/sims2-sets-objects/title/Smoke%20Detecting%20Ferns/id/209946/ (http://www.thesimsresource.com/collections/sims2-medieval/downloads/details/category/sims2-sets-objects/title/Smoke%20Detecting%20Ferns/id/209946/)

Thanks for the offer, maybe someone will use them, but we try to link to free stuff around here. From free sites. Not washed-up-creepy-former-FA-vomit.

It could be worth the time it takes to see if he's posted them up at MTS 2, though. Hasn't the man gone free?

True. I'll stop with the Dr. Pixel-hate. I really just irrationally hate him. I have no idea why.

Nope, he hasnt.

Not for lack of trying, I'm sure. Doesn't it take forever and a day for mts2 to approve stuff? Anva's account hadn't been updated in the better portion of a year but she'd be trying to get new eyeshadows approved, I think. (uploaded them to GOS instead).

Why am I taking devil's advocate for a tsr lackey?

Fair enough, but isn't the file itself free? I admire Pixel though, since he's gone free he's released a great deal of very high quality vintage cars. I respect him too for his jewerly meshes- as he was one of the first to really get jewerly into the game, which is progressive- to say the least. This community needs more progressive creators- rather that twits like Lianna, Anna Marie (Are they the same person?!) and garbage from the creators of Simchic.

To people asking about burglar/fire alarms that match their decor: I strongly recommend the invisible burglar alarm (http://www.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=134039) and invisible smoke alarm (http://www.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=131388) at MTS2. They are made by Pfish, who, somewhat mystifyingly, I admit, specialises in making things invisible.

Now I'm reminded that I need to eventually make that invisible bike.

What, Pfish hasn't done that yet?

Methinks the Fishmeister is getting a bit slow and senile in his old years  :D

I have a hanging plant alarm one that is NOT one of his but I have no idea were it came from. I have had it for a while it must of came from a house I downloaded way back when. I'll take another look...maybe the creators name is on it some weres.

And yes..uploading to MTS2 can take a while but that is not why I stopped uploading my lots there. I felt bad because I couldn't always remember who made what CC I used in my house to give them proper credit.

Free on T$R has two problems - 1) that the free files don't always stay free, and 2) only exist to lure users into paying for a sub. Lining to stuff in a positive light from T$R is generally frowned upon, and will get you yelled at.

If you stick to minimal CC, its easier to track down - and a good number of creators will show up in the clean installer, which also helps.  And if the CC is on MTS2, it will show up for you automagically.

  I try to limit CC... but I always manager to go nuts. So now I think I will upload my lots unfurnished. ... even tho to me they  don't look finished that way. Not that my lots are all that awesome but I think they turn out well and I like to share my goodies with others.

Just use maxis stuff - people like that.

I agree with Cala. Use maxi's stuff. I don't download cc lots. I have enough of my own cc to keep track of.  :D

I enjoy downloading Maxis furnished lots because then I can get a feel for how the creator wanted the lot to look. Then I replace things with whatever I like best, but usually keep the positioning the same. It takes a little more time, but surprisingly less than if I downloaded an unfurnished lot. Downloading a content-laden lot is like a kid whose parents tell it that it's going to get a lollipop, and then take it to the dentist. Oh, sure, the kid gets a lollipop in the end, but it's not the same thing.

I'm weird - I like to use a little CC, just to promote sims artists that are free, and maybe share around other people's stuff.

But, I don't download any lots usually, because that's what I do myself.

I have a confession. I downloaded some stuff from the Booty, namely a few reflexsims sets. What can I say? I wanted them, and I thought it would be kind of ... fun? to post pictures of me using reflex pay files on the reflex forums. The failure, let me show you it:

Inside, very pretty, not all reflex but the furniture and drape above the bed is:
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/pretentiouskate/fail/inside_pearl_bedroom.jpg)

The view from the backyard leaves a little to be desired:
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/pretentiouskate/fail/outside_pearl.jpg)

I admit, I has a sad. Mirraj, although a prat, is a free site right now and has similar stuff which I will probably end up using.

I do not understand what this fetish is of reflexsims to have those curtains in every bedroom.  I just hope she uses the same mesh, and doesn't make a new one for every single bedroom set. 

I've downloaded stuff in the booty too, I admit it.  I've ended up deleting most of it, because it's just not that great and I can usually find a free counterpart that is better.  I've also noticed that a lot of pay creators make the same set over and over again.  No, they don't recolor one set, they just make the same thing with all new meshes.  Free creators are more likely to make a set in one style, then make another set in another style, or make a set in the same style, but for a different room.  If I could mesh, that would be what I'd do, make different styles but only one set.  So I'd have one Victorian kitchen with a billion recolors, one modern kitchen with a billion recolors, so on and so forth.  Redundant meshes only clog up the game.

Just moving it forward a bit (as a mesh) or shortening it would make it so much better - I don't think these peeps play their games, and see how annoying this is. I'm always frantic to make sure it's not bigger than it needs to be. 


I agree - except about the recolours - I hate doing bloody recolours, and just sit and pray that someone else will do them. :P  I still have all the bits from the bed set I did, but to reuse them? That's not very exciting. 

Maybe that curtain problem can be fixed with snapobjectsto grid or setquartertileplacement, but seriously, if you need cheats and EPs just to make your items work (possibly) it's not worth it. The lack of care put into that stuff is stunning.

I've got no problems with items requiring moveobjects to work, though the reason none of my bedding stuff is base game compatible is because I used a rug, so it wouldn't be an issue.  Which reminds me, I need to fiddle with the SIP bed mesh and see if I can make it work for me.  Got the permission, but these damn impacted teeth are driving me to distraction.

So, I don't know if this is a Photoshop per se, but it certainly is a case of not getting what was promised.

One of my challenge sims just had a baby and I was building a nursery for the first time in ages, when I found a nursery set I didn't remember downloading. This is what it looked like ingame:

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b33/cosmic_charly/simsmisc/f321d319.jpg)

AW HELL NAW!

A little bleed-thorugh is annoying enough, but understandable in some cases. This crib is halfway through the wall. Shit like that just pisses me off so much. In case you're wondering, there's wasn't a cheat code in the game that could save that set. Unless you're prepared to build nurseries the size of a mansion, do not use that set. I mean seriously, look at that shit:

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b33/cosmic_charly/simsmisc/4ea3fd28.jpg)

See, no joke. Half the object is right outside the house. That is not cool.

So I went looking for the creator and discovered that in a daze of confusion I must have confused the booty with a decent download site, because this is what I found on vitasims:

(http://files.vitasims2.com/objects/babyprincess/bp_big1.jpg)
(http://www.vitasims2.com/objects/babyprincess/babyprincess6.jpg)

Yeah, right.

Also, I saw the big scary necromancer for the very first time. I haz a scared...

Well, even if the set sucks wind, I like the house you were trying to put it in.  Very bright and spring like.

 I have that set too, I also have no idea how it came to be in my game. I haz a suspicion that my sister dled it when she was here... payshit in my game... grumble...   Anyway, glad to know it actually is shit, now I can delete it and not scare the Sim neighbours half to death with a crib jutting from my house.

I didn't build the house though. MTS2 is very wonky for me at the moment, but it's on there. It's called Villa Kunterbunt if you want it. ;)

@crunk

Reflex stuff is notorious for that. If any of their stuff is in fact game tested then they really just don't care.

This is from WallSims. Looks nice but yikes!

(http://i44.tinypic.com/2em39uc.jpg)

*blinks*  The table is severing his torso.  That's... just too weird.

This may not fit the game exactly, but it sure annoyed me when I discovered it this afternoon. According to the Rosesims2 website, a donation hair from last fall looks like this:

(http://www.rosesims2.net/contribute/donation%20images/Rosedonate_0098-big.jpg)


In MY game, this is what I see:

(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn51/tyleetwen/Hairbug.jpg)

Yep, Comes with its own shoulder-kabob!

That looks... painful.

Looks like the makings of a good episode of Trauma: Life in The ER.

Or Mystery Diagnosis -

Tonite on Mystery Diagnoses Pleasantview Medical Center - Woman complains of stabbing pain in shoulder. Will doctors figure it out in time to save her?

" Elvira walked into the Pleasantview ER one night complaining of pains in her shoulder. After several tests the doctors were still unable to determine what was wrong with the young woman.
She did not have any of the commonly known Sim Diseases or Injuries, no Roach Flu,  and no Lightening Strikeosis.
They also determined that she had not set herself on fire while cooking Lunchmeat Sandwhiches, or drowned after the Sim God accidentally removed the ladder in her swimming pool.

Suddenly,  Dr Goopy Gilscarbo,  the hot young intern noticed that Elvira was being stabbed through the shoulder by an overly long piece of hair that had been left attached after Elvira's last visit to her Hairdresser Rose who had forgotten to adequately game test her hair meshes before publishing them.

Dr Goopy G quickly placed Elvira on the gurney and raced her to the nearest mirror. Sitting her on the stool of the lovely vanity table designed by Sim City's Number One Furniture Designer, Adele, he quickly took out his doctors bag and pulled out his styling tools. Soon he had changed Elviras hair to the lovely Girl Next Door Hair by up and coming Stylist Nouk. The hair was properly meshed and Elvira told Dr Goopy G that her shoulder no longer had strangely stabbing pains running through it.

Mystery Solved: Diagnoses : Badly Meshed Hair: Result: Elvira Sim married Dr Goopy G six months later in a whirlwind ceremony in her friend Cassandra Goth's back yard. She no longer allows Rose to touch her hair, in fact Rose was run out of town 6 weeks later by Kaylnn Langerak after Rose effectively ruined Kaylnn's wedding to Don Lothario by rendering her bald. Everyone in Pleasant view now has their hair done by Nouk who has become one of the most popular stylists in the Sim Nation, though not the richest because unlike Rose she does not charge to do peoples hair, she does it for the love of style. Everyone is happy, except Rose who is now living in a cardboard box behind Rodney's Hideout in Downtown Pleasantview and being stalked by Count Edgar Whatthefuck, Master Vampire of Pleasantview.

I'm mad I read that whole thing and feel extremely slow for not laughing and getting it until I got to the first mentioning Nouk's name. Hahaha.

That's okay- It's a little late, and I am punch and probably not making much sense. Working from home is not always what it's cracked up to be. I have been dealing with whiny grad students and thesis editing all night

For the unfamiliar Mystery Diagnosis is a show in the U.S where people show up at the hospital ER with weird diseases or injuries and the doctors try to figure out what is wrong with them. This my attempt at a spoof of Reality TV- gotta love it (or not).

Hahaha, I got it. It sadly took Nouk's name for me to get the Sim spoof reference. Fatigue on my end. I love Mystery Diagnosis. Discovery Health for the win.

I just wasn't sure- I love it to but it is late- and I am punchy and this probably did not make much sense- It is unfortunately true- I had a sim and her fiance age up - they were already a couple going steady and no university - my custom hood does not have it available yet- and she had a Rose Hair and unlike Nouk, Adele, and Agustin's hair (and Anto@Coolsims I think- not game tested yet) which stays on your sims head before during and after age transition- Rose and Peggy hair does not - so she ended up getting married bald because I forgot to put her hair back on.

Actually, that's probably your graphics card, and not the hair itself.

Long time ago I had a similar problem with an outfit from Sims Connection. There was this huge big spike sticking out of the guy's belly. I wrote to Sims Connection about it, but they just told me they were unable to recreate the problem - which kind of pissed me off at the time. A few months later I got a new computer with a better graphics card, and the problem disappeared.

i had the same issue my plants were spiked.

My husband too had strange spikes on Maxis sims and clothing, and it cleared up when he replaced his old NVidia 6800.  Not only did that thing render spike artefacts, it was also falling to pieces.  He kept finding capacitors that fell off it.

Spikes in my game would tend to piss me off, but I have no objection if someone would spike my punch, coffee or tea. ;D

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u228/shelly30uk1/snapshot_b1f8dc7a_f49c063d.jpg[/img]](http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u228/shelly30uk1/snapshot_b1f8dc7a_f49c063d.jpg) (http://[IMG)

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http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u228/shelly30uk1/simsglithchesonnewcard.jpg[/img]](http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u228/shelly30uk1/simsglithchesonnewcard.jpg) (http://[IMG)

Some lovely spikey/ holey issues i had with a newer graphics card then the one i have now! I gave up replacing and updating my card...and have stuck with the old one! Though it s slow at times!

Gyah!  ferncapel, what card did that?  I want to avoid buying it.

A NVidia GeForce winfast A6600GT is what the graphics card that did that is! The graphics were amazing and it was really fast...
before it all started 'breaking up' as shown!
Mine i have now is older...a Nvidia Geforce 5200...graphics are good... (though after seeing how the graphics could be with the above i know they can be so much better!

Great isnt it! lol

with some morbid curiosity I had to read all this thread ( I have no life) It used to annoy me getting peggy sims hairs...because in the pictures they looked so amazing...in game...well.....

Don't tell me, you were amazed and astounded at the shit quality and gaps that you could fit the Grand Canyon in?

nope when I saw that..thats when i hit annoyed ;)

Paden

Why does that not surprise me!!! ;D

You're learning! Could it be that you're one of the few that know what kinds of stress I'm dealing with every hour lately? Could it be that my fridge at your place is stocked with rum? Or could it be the fact that my catnip mousie is all in shreds?? :(

Fuck! I knew there was a reason I shouldn't have stocked that fridge with liquor!

Fridges stocked with booze are very nice, and we will need to get another catnip mouse.

Pooki,

We may have to go to Costco and bulk by RUM and catnip mice! Just to keep Paden sane! ;D

Oooh, we could get her one of those blankets filled with catnip. Multi-purpose, and comfortable, too!

Or perhaps you could make a rum catnip cocktail?  More efficient that way.
Or maybe infuse some veggie oil with catnip (*) and bake that into a rum cake?

* In real life, I do not bake magic brownies, okay?

good ol greedy Jassims:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/annhild/Sharing%20Stuff/jassimss_28.jpg)


(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/tymnia/BlackySims%20Zoo/Settt28.jpg)
I know, the sim is still happy, i am not. There are other flaws in that set. I have also noticed she lacks meshes in some sets.
This paysiteowner must be destroyed. I appreciate any help from the pirates. Whatever one can come up with. She is now charging 3 euros for a set, that's horrible.

Sorry for the big picture, i did not have time to edit it now.

Paint on shoes are HAWT!

 I had that happen with a few of her clothes, I lost the screen shot of my sim with her bare arse sticking out the back...it was pretty funny, but I would be pissed if I payed for that.

That pink and brown top is see through. So, uh, fail on a multiple level.

Plus the model looks like she's about to messily consume my soul.

Is this the one?

(http://usera.ImageCave.com/thecookiejar/Stuff/rgoopy_yoga.jpg)

Jassims, learn to adjust bone weights.  Yes, it's time consuming and not always trivial.  That's a problem when you want to crank out crap on schedule.  Do pay creators not test clothing in game, just BodyShop?  Then they're lazy.  Or do they knowingly sell borked meshes?  Then they're lazy rip-off con artists.

edit: They could at the very least paint the skin layer same as the shirt / skirt, so when it does poke through, it's not bare skin.  Although the proper way to do it is to not have poke through at all.

The model in the low rise wide legs pants, I hope she waxes if she wants to dress like that.  If that waistband were any lower, she would be Sharon Stone'ing us.

Stop that.
Every single time I see that picture I laugh my ass right off. Every time, without fail.
So stop it.
 ;)

That's cuz it's hilarious. I always imagine what it would be like if real clothes did that.  :D

It's also sad that Rose has gotten paid for that crap.  >:(

 lol!!!!!

My sim did not even have to bend over and her butt stuck out, I might get the outfit again just to see if I can get screen shots .All she was doing is walking around with her butt out.

I'm honestly not certain how those pants stay up. They seem to miss all the natural structural points for keeping pants up, so the slighest provocation is likely to send them straight to the floor.

It's called extra-strength double-sided duct tape, Pes. Skanks the world over have known about it for ages. Honestly, don't you keep up with a damn thing in that hole in the ground that you live in, or has the ooze dripping down the walls kept you that entertained?

Do they really do that?

Absolutely. They even make special double-sided tape for clothes.

http://www.barenecessities.com/Pure-Style-Girlfriends-Stay-Put-Double-Sided-Fashion-Tape_product_PureStyleGirlfriends75738_,search,.htm

*does not know from personal experience, for the record*

Yup rather famously used by celebs like Britney Spears and Madonna to get backless, strapless, evening gowns with cleavage down to the knees to stay on. Also for those celebs that don't actually want to take the plastic surgery road to the point where they look like one of Chaz's  sims. After all what looks better double sided tape support of certain anatomical locations or plastic parts?  ;D

Yes.  Beauty pageants could not go on without double sided tape.  Trufax.

They used to use hairspray in beauty pageants to keep bathingsuit bottoms from riding up before the double-sided tape was invented. 

o.0

Wouldn't that pull your little hairs out when you take it off, like a big band aid. That would hurt, they should all just wear thongs and have none of the riding up problems ;)

That's why you wax.

I now have this image of someone's crotch on fire.

You know what they say about warming a person for the rest of their life, Pes...

Wasn't firecrotch Lindsay Lohan's nickname?

Yeah, but iirc the guy who gave it to her was the skeeziest skank imaginable. He also accused her of being "poor" because she only had 9 million dollars or something. Also, I believe that was recorded in a conversation he had with Paris Hilton, of all the useless, talentless, nasty, hideous wastes of water and minerals. I don't care for Lindsay Lohan, I just feel sorry for her, but at least she's done something at some point in her life to like, earn money in an honest fashion.