PMBD

Game-crashing, high poly, poorly animated pay crap from Vita

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Vs low poly, gorgeous free objects from Adele at MTS2

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Also I think Peggy and Rose try to go for super realistic (but it turns out kinda plasticky for Rose) while I always go for semi realistic with everything.

Really? Peggy, realistic? With her pink-reds and huge neck/ear/forehead gaps?

Badly Textured Peggy Hair (with flower, which I believe is not optional)
*snip snip*

Vs.

Less Curly But Far Superior Beauty From Helga
*snippers!*

The image you posted of the rockabilly hair is not the final version I think. 8)
Also I think Peggy and Rose try to go for super realistic (but it turns out kinda plasticky for Rose) while I always go for semi realistic with everything. So they're not gonna look the same. I think you need moar Helga who also goes for super realistic :P

!!! I would love to have another rockabilly hair! BTW This is probably the wrong place but any idea on where I could get your full pony you did from?
 http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=3644.0
Like the one in the last picture?

And as for Peggy and Rose going for realistic? I think peggy's stuff is most fantasy/meant for pictures type deal. Not really suitable for gameplay, whereas Rose's goes for realistic on some hairs but from what I've seen a majority of her stuff is based on fantasy/games/anime's

Although Holy Simoly is Technically a paysite, but I still prefer to see it as a free site.

Lolwhut? It's a paysite - no matter what you prefer. They prefer your money.

And from an actual freesite to compare to Murano:

What freesite is that?  I actually want that set

Really? Peggy, realistic? With her pink-reds and huge neck/ear/forehead gaps? That's what I was thinking about the Asian hairstyle: it's pretty, but you know there's an ear gap and most likely a forehead gap at teen.

That is going to be a major project because I am not a creator so I don't know a short quick way to do it. 

Nouk, I must confess I love Rose hair.....however, I recently discovered your stuff, and whilst the textures are semi realistic, the animation is just wonderful! Much more natural than Rose.

Edit, just read that back and it sounded all wrong.

Just to clarify, I love your hair!

I also love Roses hairstyles (but not particularly the textures or lack of movement, plus weird things happening because of this) I like the styles themselves.

I'd show the picture, but the difference isn't as evident...Marvine's aquarium fish for placing in pools, oceans and in aquarium walls [Which I got free, but can't seem to find at the moment :( The download, itself - I've got the aquarium fish in my downloads file.] - vs Windkeeper's still sculpture fish, which just sit there and don't move at all, available at TSR and in the booty.  I remember that was the first thing I downloaded from the Booty and imediately got rid of it with disapoointment.

I wonder if you all would call some of these things beautiful if they were free... XD

Well, you could always go to the post of it at MTS2 and squee!  :D

LOL, yeah. Weird username. I wanted to use a different username so I wouldn't be immediately recognized around the artistic community as being on here. Not because I think it's wrong, but because I don't like harrassment. =B (I usually go by TaciturnSeraph or Friday Francis, which is my pen name.)

Bored: Summer vacation sucks. Couldn't get a job. Woe is me. =P
Little: Meh, everyone says I'm tiny. *shakefist* Though, I don't think that's why I chose that word. XD
Freak: I am a freak, no doubt about it. I don't even understand myself, how can I expect others to? XD
Boredlittlefreak: The result of uncreativity combined with impatience.

You people are cruel and I love it. XD I wonder if you all would call some of these things beautiful if they were free... XD Though, I admit, Peggy's hairline's suck. O_O And I am NOT a critical person. But... The hairlines irritate my perfectionist viewpoint. So untidy.

Ahh, if only bodyshop and simPE worked on my computer. =_=

Oh, and, YAY to list of free sites.

[topic="off"] Hi, I'm new here. =P[/topic]

And Calalily, I already linked to the awesome Lord Darcy stuff, comparing it to Windkeeper's similar lame stuff.

Aw crap. I thought someone did, but then I scrolled through your post registering only "ooooh unicorns" (despite the fact I've already downloaded them I still think that) and completely missed it.  Sorry redisenchanted.  :-*

Trying to make you pay for pixels is presenting the stuff in a highly insulting manner.

That's not french, that's FAIL. Then again SimsConnection is always fail.
Speaking of that, there's some pay curly hair they did for females that's really close to something (better) on MTS2. I went searching for it but I can't find it--does anyone know what I'm talking about (or have a link)?

Teehee, you didn't read the whole thread did you? :p

The better curly hair is from MYOS (a.k.a SimsArtistsUnion or SAU)

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/zoeycat123/Extras/raonscam.jpg)

Don't mean to burst your bubble, but that Raonjena hair is donation :(

But I think its funny in a twisted sort of way when they try to copy other pay creators.

Its like theyre intentionally trying to make a fuglier hair.

I wonder if you all would call some of these things beautiful if they were free

sucks to be you, gabbi, first post and you blew it!    ;)

xD!!!!

Yeah I suck!

I apparently can't read early in the morning. :P

What's this "imageshack" you speak of?

What's this "imageshack" you speak of?

mdhttr's Antique Bakery Set @ MTS2:
*snipped pics*

VS.

Simconnection's "French" Bakery Set

*incinerated pic*

Imageshack images barely last more than 3 days...

Apparently the pic is still hosted ::) And unlike photobucket, imageshack doesn't need any account... Nyanya :P

Nonsense. Here's a macro i uploaded to Imageshack FEBRUARY 25TH and i don't have an account there (kept the link in a text).
(http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/639/donotwantda8.jpg)
Apparently the pic is still hosted ::) And unlike photobucket, imageshack doesn't need any account... Nyanya :P

or you could use tinypic, you don't need to register there.

I'm sure Parsimonious will appreciate you not changing a damn thing until you get your head around this, particularly since you keep replying, ensuring that new people will continue to load this page. EDIT YOUR FUCKING POST TO STOP THE HOTLINKING.  >:(

Spank me, but don't maim nor kill me.  Only T$R mods would do something like that.

Grow up, asshole. >:(

Best. Advice. Ever.  Thank you, Owl. :-*


Grow up, asshole. >:(  I'm still fairly new to the world of internet and forums, m'kay?  Plus, I do have a life outside of PMBD; I've been pretty busy today.   I edited my fucking post, no thanks to you.  Happy?!?

People, all I was doing was trying to participate in the free vs. paysite thread.  Must you make so much drama over crap like this?  If I made a "no-no," tell me I fucked up, don't scream it at me.  Also, explain to me why I fucked up.  I have "n00b" stamped all over me.  Spank me, but don't maim nor kill me.  Only T$R mods would do something like that.

Bella, chill. You did something stupid and kept going with it even when told otherwise. You should have edited out the pics completely until you figured it out. We found it annoying that you would reply, keep loading the page, and not do anything to fix it. Now you know better.

If you get chewed out on this forum, you deserve it. So take your lumps and quit whining, all will soon be forgiven.

C'mon, we're beating a dead horse here! :P   

Hey Bella, I understand about not knowing what to do about hotlinking.  When I joined here, I didn't know what it meant either...come to think of it, I still don't get it.  But I remember not long ago there was quite a long discussion (as I recall) that hotlinking was not allowed at all.  My solution is that I don't post pictures at all.  And I'm lucky because if I ever did decide to, the only way I would be able to would be through photobucket.

However, you lost my sympathy when you started being insulting.  Even if you felt attacked, and didn't understand why, going on the offensive does not solve the problem.  It's usually best to just figure out as quickly as possible the actual problem and fix it.  There is no reason to respond like you did. Think of it this way, if you didn't like being attacked, don't pass it on.  And don't stoop to calling names.  It's not fair and it's frankly childish.


Am I being to nice for this forum?  i'z don't wanz be kickded off :'(

calalily was attacking me, what was I to do?  It tried to play nice (as much as PMBD allowed), but calalily wouldn't let it.  I didn't know what the fuck I was doing or what the fuck "hotlinking" is.  I didn't know what the fuck "Imageshack" was.  It's called being a n00b.  I've been hooked up to the internet for less than 5 yrs and in forums for less than 1.  I understand PMBD is the home of complete and total assholes, and I appreciate that.  But, beating the piss out of n00bs is the lowest of the low.  Even normal assholes pick stronger targets to pummel to the ground.  T$R mods are the type of assholes that beat, maim, and kill n00bs before they even have a chance to breathe.  Beating on n00bs is like clubbing kittehs: it's incredibly inhumane.  If a kitteh fucks up, you appropriately scold it and move on.  You don't aim a machine gun at it and blow it into 5 million pieces.  Only a sick, twisted waste of life wouldn't grant the same mercy to a n00b.

Rant over. >:( 


 ;)

calalily was attacking me, what was I to do?  It tried to play nice (as much as PMBD allowed), but calalily wouldn't let it.  I didn't know what the fuck I was doing or what the fuck "hotlinking" is.  I didn't know what the fuck "Imageshack" was.  It's called being a n00b.  I've been hooked up to the internet for less than 5 yrs and in forums for less than 1.  I understand PMBD is the home of complete and total assholes, and I appreciate that.  But, beating the piss out of n00bs is the lowest of the low.  Even normal assholes pick stronger targets to pummel to the ground.  T$R mods are the type of assholes that beat, maim, and kill n00bs before they even have a chance to breathe.  Beating on n00bs is like clubbing kittehs: it's incredibly inhumane.  If a kitteh fucks up, you appropriately scold it and move on.  You don't aim a machine gun at it and blow it into 5 million pieces.  Only a sick, twisted waste of life wouldn't grant the same mercy to a n00b.

Rant over. >:( 


 ;)

don't worry. just don't do it again, read the forum rules and anything you don't understand google it ;)

Thank you, Topaz.  I will remember that. :D  (*purposely ignoring further comments on matter*)  Can we get back on topic?

 Gabbi, that's why you read, think, and read again. If I don't check the prior posts at least a couple of times, I completely miss the point. There again, I usually have at least one kid in my lap, or yelling in my ear. Birth control FTW!  ;)

Grow up, asshole. >:(  I'm still fairly new to the world of internet and forums, m'kay?  Plus, I do have a life outside of PMBD; I've been pretty busy today.   I edited my fucking post, no thanks to you.  Happy?!?

calalily was attacking me, what was I to do?  It tried to play nice (as much as PMBD allowed), but calalily wouldn't let it. <snip blah blah blah calalily has no life blah blah blah poor me blah blah blah compare calalily to paysite owner>

While moar fight is part of the phorum's atmosphere, it doesn't really seem fair to jump on someone because they're not net literate. She fixed the images already... It's not cool to annoy your intarweb elders, but on the other hand I (kinda) get why Bella reacted like that.

[So we should endeavour to be nice to those who hurt freesites, and kindly guide them through the phorum like little lambs? You are so in the wrong place for that shit.

Is there a reason Kate doesn't just disable hotlinking?

I cannot understand why anyone would touch a Chaz or Jirka sim ever. They are always either: fugly, unrecognisable or both. Maybe if you were looking for uglacy candidates.

Skadi can you just tell me who I need to pay to have that avatar hurled into space at the speed of light directly into a black hole.

*dies of curiosity* What happened to have pes's wrath upon you?

I must be blind.  I didn't see anything pertaining to you there.  Help.

Ah shit apparently my MATY account was banned.

Extra Deco Slots for most Maxis furnitures.

You know you want it (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,12570.0.html)

Compared to the Anoeska desk just for FT, that LordDarcy had to fix *anyway*

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Not banned - Pes purges those who haven't talked and haven't logged in for a while - he does it here too. When we switched to smf, total members 5000 or so - and a lot of members were purged.

Out of interest, do you happen to know how long such inactivity has to be before they are purged?

Out of interest, do you happen to know how long such inactivity has to be before they are purged?

To be fair, Anoeska's "Maxis More Functional" superset adds decorative slots on EP dressers and vanity tables as well. (But not the ones from SPs.)

I was more annoyed by the ridiculously looooong file names found in her sets. And separating the fixes one by one into tiny packets. WTF. If you want decorative slots at all, you want them on ALL objects, not just on one dresser.
Of course, being TSR, it would make more sense for FAs to eke their products out into several different sets, rather than offering them as one single download.  That way, it would be easier to meet their quota. ::)

I deleted my Ogularama nachos because the EA appetiser platter was pretty similar and having too much choice gives me brain disease and wind.

If you mean my Toadette, appeal to the Pirate King. It's an enforced avatar.

Think the big man has a paypal account?

Think the big man has a paypal account?

most of the tsr paid items are just so ugly anyway! especially the hairs by featured artist! i just dont get that why ppl pay them to have their ugly stuff! and paysites should give up already! i dont understand why people pay yhem when they can have them all from here? do i get something wrong? ???

OT: Can anyone tell me if Bailey is making anything new, and where she is? I'd love to see more from her. She said in her profile @ MTS2 she stopped creating. *shrugs

She also uploads to Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bailelizabeth/sets/72157600123890657/).

She also uploads to Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bailelizabeth/sets/72157600123890657/).

Does anyone know why she keeps moving. Or why she makes content and then stops again for 12 years?

Well, as to why she makes content and then stops - could be a number of reasons ranging from inspiration to a job. I think though why she keeps moving is because she's a target for some who don't like her stories, and post nasty messages - it was all over SimSecret for ages.

The secret (http://i32.tinypic.com/2w3dijb.jpg) The response (http://flickr.com/photos/bailelizabeth/2608177861/)

Also, that second boy has a teabag in his mouth. Have you ever tried to suck on a teabag (try not to read into that the wrong way)? Teabags are super concentrated. They are NASTY. You wouldn't want one in your mouth, they are very bitter.

Disturbing pics  :-\
Saw all her pics, kinda regreting that i did...

I don't really care one way or the other about gay-underaged-incest crap. I've read doujinishi for long enough to know this is pretty par-for-the-course when it comes to fetishes.

Haha I second that. But I don't think her picture deserved rude comments. Comment on whats good about (like the FANTASTIC photoshop work for instance) even though thats not really the point of the picture. I hope she gets back to creating soon though. She's a very talented modder

I agree. No point in joining a contest because it's all about photoshopping.

I tried so hard not to contribute to the OT here but... My biggest problem is that they're not sims anymore. That's the trend that I hate the most right now in the community. People photoshop the hell out of their sims, and at that point, they aren't sims anymore.

I also hate the rather HUGE trend that male sims must look as femenine as possible. I can understand metrosimsual, but it is beyond my comprehension why a lot of girls seem to think that male sims need to like women.

As to feminine male sims. I believe....tough.  :D I create the sims I like, and I let you download them if you like them too.  It's not as if you can't use Bodyshop yourself and make your own faces.  As to hair and clothing, there is oodles of male hair and clothing - sure - not as much as females, but still loads. It's not as if there's a total of 3 tops and 3 jeans they can wear - there's far more than that.

If I'm not mistaken, Snakeshaft has Numenor's free pot bellied stove featured in that kitchen set. Unless of course in her crappy pay way, she made another less awesome version.

Actually I think your sims are quite nice. They're subtle and realistic. The ones I don't like are the ones that are so femenine, you can't actually distinguish them from female sims, and have loads of makeup and tacky fake hair so shiny you need to wear sunglasses to look at it.

Come now, they're hardly manly. Severe lack of chestal hair, frou frou hairstyles, fairly soft faces with some hard angles (like our children :D ). If you saw them on the street even without their custom skintones you'd wonder if they were chicks or androgynous or something.  Coolington also wears makeup, has better nails than me, and better hair than me. If I didn't suck complete arse at doing makeup, they'd be wearing it. :P

Please, plz, leave download links.  I love that Phoenix Phaerie Manor Bath House.  ;D

I also hate the rather HUGE trend that male sims must look as femenine as possible

Yeah, I would probably not like them if they had makeup. But there are people that do look like that (femenine features and manscaping and all). But it looks more emo-ey than woman-ey. It's stuff with loads of makeup, like this x3 that I really don't like. It looks so odd and weird and quite frankly the last one looks like a drag queen.

There (http://sumomo.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=290384) you go.

I also don't get this men dressing like women thing. Is that emo?

Anyways, what exactly is emo? 

Emo is Goth's wimpy, overly-emotional little brother wanting to play with the big kids but instead gets beaten up.

Scene is Emo but with more colors.

You must have made a typo in your post Pillbug, All4Sims's recolors cannot beat Marilu's horror. Plus All4sims is a free forum (unless i missed something when i downloaded a lot of recolors there). I hope you meant to write "all LESS hideous than Marilu's".

No free site bashing, it makes the kitteh cry.

Want it in blue?  No problem, thanks to these free recolors in a variety of shades of blue from All4Sims, all much hideous than Marilu's:

and of course, Bauhaus has already been mentioned...the goth kids were conceived to THIS song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq7xyjU-jsU)

 :D     ;D     :D

Up to forty-four (44) visitor-enabled beds. Use at home for yourself or your guests to sleep in... or use it to spend the night on Community Lots or other away-from-home locations. The "Sleep" option was adjusted so that it can be used anytime, not just when Energy levels are lower. Sims can also sleep in the buff anytime they want. Also just for fun, any Sim will be able to "Tuck In" any other Sim regardless of age. Updated April 2006 to be completely forward and backward compatible for those that had issues after installing OFB, and 33 additional color options added.

It's missing a "less", but it's clearly meant to say "all much less hideous than Marilu's".

You must have made a typo in your post Pillbug, All4Sims's recolors cannot beat Marilu's horror. Plus All4sims is a free forum (unless i missed something when i downloaded a lot of recolors there). I hope you meant to write "all LESS hideous than Marilu's".

the only thing I've really liked from Jirka was her Liv Tyler sim (although I had to alter the man jaw in game and I have her better hair)

But Chaz really is terrible, i noticed this was SUPPOSED to be Keira Knightley.

<*barfs*>

I already told Dave a few times how ILLEGAL and evil it is to be a paysite, he sad he knew where i was coming from. If he did he would make them free :-\

Crappy pay outfits by Sim Guys:
Vs awesome free outfits by Aikea Guinea at Club Crimsyn:

if you ever take all the makeup off a chaz sim and change the skintone you STILL have an ugly sim...that looks absolutely nothing like the sim did originally. sim guys pay? HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA, what a fucking joke!

I don't know what The Hunger is, and I'm pretty sure that it's okay if I never know.

And of course my hood would be a nudist colony if it weren't AG&G. I only wish they would make MOAR stuff MOAR quickly. I don't know what they're doing over there, having a life or something probably. Gawd!  Come on ladies, produce produce produce!!! I'll send you food so you don't even have to leave your homes. What do you like?

Compared to Phoenix Phaerie's Manor House Bath:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f41/serenamoonsilver/MTS2_phoenix_phaerie_775688_mts2_ti.jpg

hahahahahaha!!! 
We're always making new stuff, it's just that right now my focus has shifted back toward my writing.  I do have some works in progress (http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=66.msg148776#msg148776), plus about eleventy billion more ideas after that.  In the mean time, Gelydh is knocking shit over (http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=66.msg148387#msg148387).
But yes.... Many many thanks for the compliments.  While we do this for the utter joy it brings us, knowing that that other people use and enjoy our creations and insanity makes it all the better.   ;D

:-[ I am probably the one that uses photobucket... but gah I tried and I can't hotlink tsr! Can I have the secrets to butthurt?

:-[ I am probably the one that uses photobucket... but gah I tried and I can't hotlink tsr! Can I have the secrets to butthurt?

Is it just me, or do the faces on all of Chaz's sims look greasy?

Voila, green legs of doom.

<puke green fug>

? I wasn't comparing, I was responding to Shark*Tooth* and what he said about chaz's stuff looks better when your graphics card is from the stone age  ??? :-[

? I wasn't comparing, I was responding to Shark*Tooth* and what he said about chaz's stuff looks better when your graphics card is from the stone age ??? :-[

Aikea, do the knocked down objects use repository? *Crosses fingers* I have some destroyed looking justadoor recolors I downloaded that'd go nice with your set.

 *yay I hotlinked!*

You probably didn't intend to post that as an example of bad pay content, but it was so fugly it needed recognition

I used to subscribe to TSR, for the reason that some of the nicer stuff is free, yes, but a lot of the meshes, remain pay. So it's useless unless you can download the mesh too.
Plus, they have (or had) a nasty habit of releasing one or two items from a set as free, and making the rest of the set pay. Most irritating.

I think this is the only reason they offer free stuff anyway - tis not for the good of the community. It's to draw people in, because lets face it, how many people would visit there if it was purely subscriptions only? They get new customers for the reasons I just mentioned.

And when my computer with still frankenstiened together, the hair looked decent. Rather fake, but I could deal with. Well now with my newer graphics card, I have been debating on deleting it just because now I can see parts where the mesh goes different ways, and how the texture doesn't line all the way up with the mesh.

Oh, hon, delete the damn thing! Honestly, there are way better hairs out there. I just did a little bit of searching and came up with these - I'm sure you could find more if you dug around a bit.

For the sake of a side-by-side (or top-to-bottom?), here's Chaz's mess.

*snip*

Here's a similar one by Helga. (I'm in love with this hair by the way.)


*snip*

One from enriquemt0 at MTS2

*snip*

And a couple of pay-mesh retextures which I'm only going to link to since they don't really qualify as free CC. (You might need to be signed into the forums to see them.)
http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=3317.0
http://www.simscave.com/ferris/index.php?topic=3340.0

MMM Thank you! Quite lovely meshes, I love Helga's but I can't find a decent red recolor of that hair  :'( Because orange doesn't qualify as red to me.....

I've been meaning to actually learn how to texture hair and fix chaz's mess.... but I have a lot of things I have been meaning to do and haven't done :P

There's a Nouk retexture of that mesh at Sims2 Supernova.  http://www.sims2supernova.com/showthread.php?t=1610.  I haven't seen many recolours of that mesh, which is a shame because I love it. 

I've always worn an undershirt under sweaters too, for the same reason, even if they're soft.  xD

I think it's 'cause my favorite Mickey Mouse sweater when I was a kid was itchy.

One of my simplest joys as a child was wearing my day of the week undies on the wrong day.  Made me feel like a real man.

and when we ended up going to Barcelona

sand ending up in places where it shouldn't be. >_>

Lovely free hair by adele
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Vs WTF from the Sims 2 Store
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Lovely free hair by adele
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Vs WTF from the Sims 2 Store
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Complements on your avi, Missbonbon!
I think part of the problem with the store's content is that there's so much stuff that has been done by other creators... which is a good thing, I think.
As for that hair, that has been done by so many different people, it's really not surprising that EA did it as well. It's just sad that they didn't do it better than everyone else.

thank you dusdee :) I yonked from...... argh short term memory loss :( It's in a recent thread around here somewhere.....

To me the sims store hairs are "ok." That's about it. If there wasn't an outfit I liked I personally would have the hairs (I can't get rid of them without deleting the outfit.) The one that looks like Adele's is okay, but I like how adele's seems fuller. The curly hair had real promise, but then they gave it that gigantic forehead that just ruined it. Even with Hp's fix for it it still seems off on some of my simmies.....

The one that looks like Adele's is okay

I might be overly picky, but hair should move

Don't shoot, but seriously, even though Peggy is pay (and we can get it for free anyway  ::) ) I prefer Peggy's crap over Helga's.
Although Helga's probably gap-less, I think her textures are kind of eh....

Don't shoot, but seriously, even though Peggy is pay (and we can get it for free anyway  ::) ) I prefer Peggy's crap over Helga's.
Although Helga's probably gap-less, I think her textures are kind of eh....

I prefer Peggy's crap over Helga's.
Although Helga's probably gap-less, I think her textures are kind of eh....

Although Helga's probably gap-less

Oh my, get your panties out of a twist. I wasn't saying that Helga's hair is crap, I was just saying that I prefer Peggy's hair over Helga's, and yes I referred to Peggy's hair as crap, but not to Helga. Because you obviously find Peggy's hair crappy. And to me, the colors of the hair don't matter because I retexture them anyway. I just don't like the way Helga forms her meshes.
So thats why I like them better.

You shouldn't be so offended just because it's a free creator. I'm just stating my opinion.

And by the way, I don't like neck-gaps either, but I don't get disturbed by them as I use mainly long hairs.

So I am no way stating that it is a fact that Peggy's hair is better than Helga's, I'm just saying that it is my personal opinion that I like Peggy's hair better (to retexture).

srs bizniz  8)

For the sake of a side-by-side (or top-to-bottom?), here's Chaz's mess.

(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/592/592438.jpg)

Here's a similar one by Helga. (I'm in love with this hair by the way.)

(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/218/020bigms3.jpg) (http://www.helgasims.com/hair7.htm)
(click images for download page)

See the difference between this fugly TSR castle, complete with no terrain or landscape:

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and this lovely MTS2 castle?


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Oh my, get your panties out of a twist.

And to me, the colors of the [peggy] hair don't matter because I retexture them anyway

Although Helga's probably gap-less, I think her textures are kind of eh....

If you want to compare castles you just have to mention the wonderful free castles by Dimorasims (http://www.webalice.it/mikebur50/)!

That caravan at Parsimonious looks awesome. :)

My knickers are utterly not in a twist. Sorry if you think I'm being confrontational or summin. Just the way you said "peggy's crap over helga's" sounded (to me) like you were bunching them both as crap.

You're free to prefer peggy's hairstyles over any other artists, but you can't deny, at least helga's meshes are free and  good quality i.e no neck gaps and possessed hair flying around every time your sims breathe. Why get pay content when free artists make much better quality items? And that is what this thread's about.

Uh?

which you can find right here (http://www.wickednoukfamily.com/) (in the new aspiration set - YAY).

I think what Caedre wants to say is that most Peggysims textures are rather straight so that they are easy to retexture while most hairs by Helga are at least a bit wavy/curly. This means that if you don't like the rather realistic textures by Helga and want to retexture them, you'd either use a straight texture which makes the hair look kinda strange, or you have to work really hard to get the original wavy look but with textures to your liking.
And if I remember right Caedre prefers Maxis-matching textures which might look nice on some of Helga's hairs, but not on all of them...

Just export some hairtextures by Helga and Peggy and compare them, and you'll notice the difference.

This of course doesn't mean that Helga's hairs are worse than Peggy's, they just use totally different ways of texturing, but from the view of someone who deals with hair textures on a daily basis Caedre's arguments are understandable.
For someone who just downloads the original style or recolors are these arguments irrelevant though.


Edit: typo

versus Ana's version of crazy colored hair (with the same mesh)
which you can find right here (http://www.wickednoukfamily.com/) (in the new aspiration set - YAY).

I had long hair, like down to my butt, until about 7th grade. I got it cut once...well, actually, I tried to cut it myself when I was about 10. Bad idea. It was horrible. One side was really short. I had to get school pictures taken the next day. They were awful! My mother was so pissed

Soggy, I knew this girl growing up that had beautiful red curly hair, but she had so many problems maintaining it.

SHHH!! Peggy might be listening!

*Glances around nervously*

When I was 5 I used to love to cut off chunks of my hair. Not a lot, just a bit here or there. My mom always noticed. Always. Now I think *DUH* but back then I was like how does she know?!

I'm not bashing freesite content here, honestly, but isn't there some... random skin showing at the Parsimonius outfit as well? In an... interesting place. Maybe it's some kind of female Goopy-curse, or just something he requests from his ladies' clothing for convinience?

... Yeah, scaring myself now.

<the ass picture>

VS. these strangely angle-y clothes from Milano at TSR (especially the third one. I mean, Ow!)

*insert ho-teen clothes here*

Guh! So gorgeous.
Helga hair pwns all.

Except for Nouk hair. :)

I stand corrected.
Helga+Nouk hairs pwn all.

The men's hair that I really want is Robert Smith hair, more than regular hair... But that's because I really want to make realistic music videos of The Cure :)


And I'll go pick up FoxLingo now, because it's annoying to go to the google translator every time i want to read a foreign fansite  :P

Adele definitely pwns every paysite furniture creator out there. Her stuff looks real/maxisy at the same time.


Here's how I navigate through Helga's site without any translator:
<picture we don't need to see again>

I just hover over the links, and va va voom look at the bottom of the window.

Aikea's done a Robert Smith hair, its somewhere. Exnem forum, if my memory is correct, and possibly GoS as well (?)

Edited to add, yar over at ExnemForum (http://exnemsims.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=f5e2b546c8f359b86719b011f653b73a&f=227).

I have no idea what a "redemption code" is in this case.
PMBD is for freeing illegal Sims 2 paysite files. Not for actually pirating from EA or any othe game company. Moar clear nao?

Anybody seen this little gem? (and by gem, I mean peggy crap, of course)
http://www.peggyzone.com/html/images/Donate_Show_Detail_Image1.jpg

Methinks it looks a bit like this (from XMS):
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f114/dusdeedawn/XMS_Flora_MeshHair076B.jpg

Also XMsims is a paysite.

I am confused is that a yes or a no to the redemption codes

They are in the booty, listed under 'inactive sites'.

 I am guess they mean the code for the "Exclusive Download" you get when you buy at certain places. It is totally against the rules here, so why they would even ask is beyond me.  ::)

Also XMsims is a paysite.

I think it looks like a big stone vagina.

*scratches head*

Goggled? Huh.
Learn a new word here everyday.  :D

I like those commercials.  ;) I just now realized your avatar is animated. Sad I know.

I think it's great! I looked after you wrote that, and now I noticed.  That's because it's a slow animation, not an imitation of Peggy's site - thus I've read astonished lemon's posts without noticing.  So thanks AL and Feverish.  :D

Wasn't quite a bit of the movie done in the Disney studios based in Australia before they closed them? I remember reading that somewhere.

Yep - plus live footage of our Sydney Harbour and Great Barrier Reef, which was then rendered into digital.  But it's most important that they have US actors - we Aussies are incomprehensible to USian ears.

Yep - plus live footage of our Sydney Harbour and Great Barrier Reef, which was then rendered into digital.  But it's most important that they have US actors - we Aussies are incomprehensible to USian ears.

I've never really had a problem with the what people call the Aussie accent. Boston, yes. Aussie, no.

I understood the seagulls pretty well!  :D

I spent the summer there and didn't run into a single Aussie who spoke proper English  ;)

I just mentioned that because it's been YEARS since I have heard anyone say "rooted" in that context.

I do it and I'm in the southeast us.

Maybe its an age thing?  I'm 41...I mean, 36

I do it and I'm in the southeast us.

Maybe its an age thing?  I'm 41...I mean, 36

I also use "aye" and occasionally "ahoy" too. XD

Oh, Cala, it's probably not ad companies being stingy. It's the client. It's always the client. :P

Ya right Mando, you just go ahead and  Blame Canada (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUb2XmwTCs8).

Haha, it's okay. I know how most people feel about advertising. It's not all as skeezy as it sounds, though.

Was it that obvious? ;)

Here's a comparison of pigtails:

Part 1
Rose's pigtails have a weird-ass mesh

Ok, one of the reasons I love this thread is the really wonderful free stuff I see posted here, which I often must then go download. This particular hair is not good, but the part that is not strange looking pigtails is rather like a style I have been wishing I had. I could go to the booty, dl the rose hair and modify it myself. However, if someone knows where I could get a quality free hair of very similar style, I'd appreciate it.

Updos with curls at the back
Peggy
VS
Helga

No, I'm sorry, but perhaps you didn't understand what I was asking for. And maybe this thread isn't the best place to ask, but what I want isn't a pigtail mesh. What I want is a short swing with bangs, which is what the Rose hair is if you remove the "pigtails." The free hair is a lovely pigtail mesh, isn't it? I only asked here because the picture of the Rose hair is here.

Ok, one of the reasons I love this thread is the really wonderful free stuff I see posted here, which I often must then go download. This particular hair is not good, but the part that is not strange looking pigtails is rather like a style I have been wishing I had. I could go to the booty, dl the rose hair and modify it myself. However, if someone knows where I could get a quality free hair of very similar style, I'd appreciate it.

To me, the poor boys look like someone has briefly pulled their bodies to a little stretch so that their torsos are a bit higher and their legs look like stumps.

Must just be me mind, but yeah I see what you mean.

Well first thing I noticed was the motion the kid  in the green was doing. What the fuck is that o.O he's even quirking a brow!

I have a girl crush on Kate Hudson. I just adore her. I really like her mother (Goldie Hawn) too.

5000 people have Payed for that.

5000 people have downloaded it. You can download it for free when its on rotation, and with kudos points.  ;) So likely a lot of that number have downloaded it for free, not paid.

5000 people have downloaded it. You can download it for free when its on rotation, and with kudos points.  ;) So likely a lot of that number have downloaded it for free, not paid.

Helga's braids are indeed very nice, but every time I see that model I shudder. She's going to eat my soul.

Helga's models are kind of scary, but I like them anyway. Yay for not having the same face as everyone else.

Nope, they don't rotate FA stuff anymore. 5000 paying customers downloaded that horrid hair. I think it may be the worst hair ever, and that's saying a lot.

This FAfug proudly pwned by Enayla!

FAfug
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/453/453823.jpg)

Enayla:

http://www.furiae.com/images2/pixiegems/4.jpg (http://www.furiae.com/images2/pixiegems/4.jpg)

Oh yeah, the link to Enayla's is here: http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=91793

Clearly better, but since that TSR skin is very close to a (worse) copy of another skin that Enayla did, I think you want to link that, too. Pixie Serpent, here:
http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=193105 (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=193105)