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Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Silvercoin on 2006 December 13, 04:47:53 This isn't the first time Exnem has left MST2 in a huff, though sadly I never managed to see who pissed him off so badly as to drive him away from free advertising (that full-set-waffle-picture-posting bastard). And now I'm wondering if Exnem often gets those butt beetles a'crawlin' up his leg.
Now it's with this Darth Vader costume (http://modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=208770). He's saying goodbye again other "rudeness and disrespect". I think that was the reason the last time he 'left', too. It won't be long until he returns with samples in tow, though. My bet's on a month from now. And he apparently threw a fit with Bibidoublezero's buyable apples and cheeses a while back. Where have they gone? They've become pulled projects, and the reason for the thread's deletion was 'ask Exnem'. And one of them was deleted by a moderator, with something like 'Oh, enough already' for the reason. S'wha? They were very good quality items, too, the apples especially. I don't think Bibi ganked resources from Exnem, but... feh. Anyone know about this? He does seem to be particularly sensitive about criticism, though I didn't think of him as the type to get another good quality food item pulled. I wonder, did someone compare Bibi's foods to something of Exnem's and make him angry? Seriously, what the crap? Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2006 December 13, 05:01:29 he's a big fucking sissy baby. anyway I thought he already had a tizzy and left mts2 when lyriclee got her ass canned
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: BlueSoup on 2006 December 13, 05:01:57 Bibi's food got pulled because he allegedly stole part of Exnem's food code or something to make his.
But if you want them, I have them. :D Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Pescado on 2006 December 13, 05:05:18 How the hell can you *STEAL* food code? Food has to be done in a very formulaic way to even function as good, and practically all of it is globally encapsulated in FoodGlobals!
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Plum on 2006 December 13, 05:11:33 He can take his toys and go home then. I have everything I want right here. *pets*
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2006 December 13, 05:11:58 The food code he stole was something to make the food not rot
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: tinkrfreakenbell on 2006 December 13, 05:14:42 Food code huh? Is it chocolate or Coffee flavored? If it's not he can keep his stinky old food code and shove it.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2006 December 13, 05:21:29 he's another one that needs my foot up his ass
with steel toes. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: simminggramma on 2006 December 13, 05:29:20 Nah! Use those spikes that cable and telephone linemen wear!
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Pescado on 2006 December 13, 05:33:01 Quote from: "PirateBooty" The food code he stole was something to make the food not rot That's not code! That's not-code! You can't steal code REMOVAL. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: dahvyd on 2006 December 13, 05:33:34 Why am I not surprised? Maybe he should start showing respect towards his 'fans' (for lack of a better word).
I once sent him a PM via MTS2 in regards to one of his creations (the fridge I think). Months went by with no reply, so I sent another and he replied with a snitty message along the lines of "Fuck off and stop harrasing/stalking me". Um, hel-lo? You're so not cool enough for me to stalk you. Loser. :roll: Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Pariland on 2006 December 13, 07:09:31 Quote from: "BlueSoup" Bibi's food got pulled because he allegedly stole part of Exnem's food code or something to make his. But if you want them, I have them. :D That is so stupid, yet so typical. Exnem doesn't own the code. They seriously pulled those items because of that? Or was it because someone made such a fuss because bibi's food is better, and the complete set is free. Not just one waffle in a set. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Vaughna on 2006 December 13, 07:43:35 Quote from: "Pariland" That is so stupid, yet so typical. Exnem doesn't own the code. They seriously pulled those items because of that? Or was it because someone made such a fuss because bibi's food is better, and the complete set is free. Not just one waffle in a set. My guess is Exnem felt his paysite was threatened by a freebie artist who did good work. I didn't think anything was wrong with Bibi's foods and I love them. Exnem would have a hard time proving the code was "stolen" to begin with. Just because someone makes a similar object doesn't mean they stole to do it. TS2 is full of similar things. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2006 December 13, 09:28:48 All game code belongs to EA and they have given permission for US the community to use it to make free items for the community. It wasn't theft. I object to having my fellow simmers called thieves, implying something criminal and immoral when they are simply sharing code that EA allowed them to share for the common good.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: spookymuffin on 2006 December 13, 09:40:51 This is so ridiculous, I have only ever seen one genuine case of "theft" in the sims custom content community, and that was when someone on MTS2 stole one of Enayla's textures for their skin.
Did Enayla kick up a big fuss and leave MTS2? no of course not, that would just be retarded Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Ghanima Atreides on 2006 December 13, 12:37:42 You know, Bibi isn't the only food maker that got attacked by him or his supporters and accused of theft. Anyone remember pacotacoplayer, the kid who made some pretty neat things on MTS? One of his threads got canned too after people shouted murder and how he stole Exnem's wonderful work etc, when all the poor kid did was create a pie.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Surelyfunke on 2006 December 13, 13:16:26 Oh noes! Exnem owns copyright to all pies and their likenesses! I must be careful when I use my oven.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: alia on 2006 December 13, 14:03:26 Quote from: "Surelyfunke" Oh noes! Exnem owns copyright to all pies and their likenesses! I must be careful when I use my oven. You make pies? THIEF!!! Don't you know that Exnem owns the copyright to the idea of pies! Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: redisenchanted on 2006 December 13, 14:38:46 Sorry to make a retarded wcif post, but does bibi00 have their own site? I loved those apples and lost them in a download purge. Exnem is such a putz! I think I'll bake some pies today and not give him any credit. :roll:
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Surelyfunke on 2006 December 13, 14:49:21 I think Bluesoup mentioned that she'll be posting Bibi's apples at some point.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Super_Pirate_Dude on 2006 December 13, 15:32:14 That sucks, Bibi's things were awesome! But it does not suprise me that Exnem is a Super Baby
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: neriana on 2006 December 13, 16:16:40 Quote from: "spookymuffin" This is so ridiculous, I have only ever seen one genuine case of "theft" in the sims custom content community, and that was when someone on MTS2 stole one of Enayla's textures for their skin. Did Enayla kick up a big fuss and leave MTS2? no of course not, that would just be retarded Enayla has actual talent which she uses to do things besides just make crap for a game. (I often set my wallpaper to one of the pictures she's made, and I've loved her work since before she started doing anything for TS2.) Hence, she is not psycho. The people who go crazy about people "stealing" their creations for The Sims 2 have nothing else to feel good about in their lives. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: LovelyLies on 2006 December 13, 17:13:36 I'd just like to say that his foods suck ass anyways. They don't look good to me. Ya, their kinda neat because he's one of the few out there that does it. But that might just be because everytime someone else trys to do it he yells: "Stop! THEIF!"
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: ... on 2006 December 13, 17:47:07 I remember the first time this whiny idiot threw a tantrum and 'left'.
If the Sims 2 community was marginally less psychotic (like, say, at the level of the online genre art community - and if anyone else is a part of it they know how hilarious that is), Exnem would have been greeted with howls of laughter and he'd have be ridiculed into silence a long, long time ago for trying to claim someone doing the same thing he is as 'stealing'. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: neriana on 2006 December 13, 19:16:21 I regularly "steal" code from other mods. It's ENCOURAGED, as it allows more people to create more stuff. Exnem, and anyone like him, is fucking insane.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: ChloeFox on 2006 December 13, 21:02:35 HE HAS A HAIR UP HIS ASS, A STRAIGHT STICKY HAIR TICKLING HIS OVER DRAMATIC ASSHOLE!!
hahahhaha Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: jesserocket on 2006 December 13, 21:05:50 Oh god, the drama. You know, shockingly, I'm not quite sure that accusing people of stealing, posting teasers for pay stuff on a free site, then spitting the dummy when someone dares not to worship you isn't really a recipe for RESPECT...-_-
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Silvercoin on 2006 December 13, 21:21:19 BlueSoup, if you could throw the golden apples my way I'd really appreciate it.
And nothing surprises me anymore with those people, though I definitely did not expect the issue to be over code. My first impression was that Bibi copied some of Exnem's textures. I wouldn't have been able to guess it was code to save my life. How delusional can you get? If it were acceptable to copyright a certain change to a certain value, modders would be throwing legal threats all over the place along with all the skinners. This reminds me of a clothing mesher I've seen with a 'DO NOT RECREATE' notice in the TOS. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Aquamarine on 2006 December 13, 21:50:22 What a blubbering vagina. Seriously, the people who throw the biggest fits in this fandom are the people with the most basic/mediocre shit.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: BlueSoup on 2006 December 13, 23:38:48 We have the apples and cheeses and stuff, so I can put those up in the Booty tonight, along with a few other things I forgot last time lol.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: yamikuronue on 2006 December 14, 20:51:54 Are said foods pets-compatible? I had the waffles with banana in my game for the longest time, but then apparently pets breaks food so I took it out.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2006 December 14, 21:15:49 Pets only breaks food if you're super super picky. But we have exnems pets-updated foods anyway, so grab all the waffles you want.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: yamikuronue on 2006 December 14, 21:28:36 yay!
I mean, YAR! Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Captain Flint on 2006 December 14, 22:19:59 Wasn't it Fireflies who originaly modded the foods and allowed everyone to use her modding talent?
You dont see her bitching? even though her creations were not the best she at least gave it for free. where has she gone to anyways? Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: wicked_one on 2006 December 15, 01:54:26 captain flint, she was at mts2 then moved to insimenator then moved to sims2workshop but i think shes claiming to be retiring...i dunno i didnt bother reading the announcement over there about it lol
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Swashbuckler on 2006 December 15, 02:38:57 The vader thread was deleted because someone asked if the MTS2 supporter adblock thing included hiding teaser ads like his. A few responses by him and lyric then he deleted it.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: WonderRik on 2006 December 15, 08:26:46 Quote from: "Swashbuckler" The vader thread was deleted because someone asked if the MTS2 supporter adblock thing included hiding teaser ads like his. . I've been lurking for the past few days but I had to comment. That right there, was awesome. I wish I had read that thread (before it was deleted of course). Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Vaughna on 2006 December 15, 10:11:47 Quote from: "Captain Flint" Wasn't it Fireflies who originaly modded the foods and allowed everyone to use her modding talent? You dont see her bitching? even though her creations were not the best she at least gave it for free. where has she gone to anyways? She was at Sims2workshop for awhile, but they said she retired. I heard she wasn't too happy that people were using her work because they didn't give her any credit. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: jesserocket on 2006 December 15, 16:57:36 Quote from: "Swashbuckler" The vader thread was deleted because someone asked if the MTS2 supporter adblock thing included hiding teaser ads like his. A few responses by him and lyric then he deleted it. Oh my! Seriously? Dude, that's too fucking good to be true!! The someone deserves prizes. Many great prizes. God, seriously, how big can Exnem's ego be? Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Brn Pyrate Grrl on 2006 December 15, 17:13:33 You know, the people in this community never cease to amaze me with the level of bitchosity and whinniness they possess. How the hot hell can someone steal something from you that isn't yours to begin with??? :shock:
Exnem's hairs make my game crash, have shitty textures and basically look like refried bat dung, yet he wants to act like a little dramatic cunt over somebody using his shitty textures to create something useful?!?! thefuckouttahere ya man bitch! :evil: Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Captain Flint on 2006 December 15, 22:43:22 Quote from: "Vaughna" Quote from: "Captain Flint" Wasn't it Fireflies who originaly modded the foods and allowed everyone to use her modding talent? You dont see her bitching? even though her creations were not the best she at least gave it for free. where has she gone to anyways? She was at Sims2workshop for awhile, but they said she retired. I heard she wasn't too happy that people were using her work because they didn't give her any credit. I emailed her and asked her why she left the community and her responce seems sincere, here is what she said. Quote I left on the basis that my family needed me more than the sims2 with a possible return if or when things returned to normal but in letting the workshop know this they removed all my items even after trying to help the forum like i did... my guess is they feel their forum needed no help? "news for them" it is a dying forum I also asked why she left mts2. Quote I was told i was not allowed to upload there anymore, back when i first started making the foods others were trying to create foods with my help but did not listen to my advise and were to in a hurry to upload so those new items were clashing with my foods making a mess out of it all, so i moved my creations somewhere i felt i could control them, What a mistake, i still sneak an upload in here and there so i dont think they mind anymore lol I then asked if she planned on returning her creations. Quote It is pretty late in the game and many people have learned off of my first upload and have taken the foods to a new level of creation so i dont think my old food items will be missed especialy since other people can texture better than me, i will still help others to learn the process and will be around to help in any code breaks through the new expansions I told her she was wrong and her creations were still great, many of them were created from all the foods and not just desserts like most foods are, they deserved to be out in the world of simmers, she said she has a few creations to upload but has no real plans to return the foods because she has no place to upload them to and does'nt want to house them somewhere only to be removed again, to bad as they were some nice ideas she had, seems she just had some bad breaks on the forums and to think most of those people use her ideas with not a care that she started it all and now has left over it. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Randomness on 2006 December 17, 04:08:35 Quote from: "Silvercoin" BlueSoup, if you could throw the golden apples my way I'd really appreciate it. Noooo, don't do that! You'll start a war! [/irrelevant idiocy] Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: WonderRik on 2006 December 17, 06:47:16 Quote Noooo, don't do that! You'll start a war! [/irrelevant idiocy] Not completely irrelevant. It made me smile. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: karu on 2006 December 21, 18:59:48 exnem v delphy snips, is delphy saying he doesn't make $?
Quote from: Delphy As a web designer, programmer and database specialist, I could get money for what I do for the coding on MTS2 - and in effect, I do - but through other means, not the site. Quote from: exnem Not all of us sit on our butts while we recieve donations for doing almost nothing (in a free site with more than 1,000,000 members and a 1% in donations of which many are more than 5 dlls, not counting google ads, etc, you do the math,...) http://forums.sims2community.com/showthread.php?t=30984&page=22&pp=25 Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: torque on 2006 December 21, 19:02:16 I'm kinda starting to like Delphy. I know, I know gotta walk the plank now. But then again I never disliked him to begin with. Exnem kinda pissed me off.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: calalily on 2006 December 21, 20:16:07 He keeps trying to leave with zero apples at s2c, but stays - doesn't even log out. He's said goodbye twice and hasn't left yet!
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: ... on 2006 December 21, 20:22:56 After reading all those posts of exnem basically trying to call people in the community entitlement whores, all the while flailing and stomping his feet that people DISAGREE with him... yeah, he needs to go fall in a well. I'm sure we'd all be happy to help him with that, too.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2006 December 21, 21:16:57 exnem is a big old baby that can go get fucked
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: harlequingirls on 2006 December 21, 21:23:30 I somehow feel sorry for that poor baby ... I mean, I really can't stand children, but ... growing up with such a father and such views? Ewww.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Solowren on 2006 December 21, 21:34:29 That thread entertains me. :o
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2006 December 21, 21:45:48 He's posted again. Hasn't he already said goodbye half a dozen times?
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: calalily on 2006 December 21, 21:45:56 Apparently, goodbyes and "leaving" still doesn't require actual leaving. He's back with his hours of study and work to scan and photoshop biscuits. http://forums.sims2community.com/showthread.php?p=702086#post702086
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: BlueSoup on 2006 December 21, 22:05:31 I'm getting so bloody tired of exnem the Drama Queen. So I had to call him on it. :P
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Solowren on 2006 December 21, 22:16:50 Aww, BlueSoup, I think you hurt his feelers.
Darn you and your cruel words. :( Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: idtaminger on 2006 December 21, 22:26:39 Go Blue! There's nothing I hate more than a "woe-is-me" attitude, especially when it's unjustified. My eyes were practically rolling out of my head reading that thread.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2006 December 21, 22:33:38 Ok but I think we got as far as we have with this by not letting it turn into a flame war. Be a shame to lose it now.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: calalily on 2006 December 21, 22:59:39 Well, I don't know if what I did is being very constructive but I put a great quote in my signature from jesserocket about drew/atlaua/forwardmotionis
Quote All of us, with guns to his head, FORCING him to create. And he screams and cries and says 'Please, no more, my poor fingers are bleeding, I don't even like the Sims, it was all a terrible joke, I need to be able to go out, and spend all the money I'm getting for this, let me go!! Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Plum on 2006 December 21, 23:07:59 The thread was all super serious and then I had to go and see calalily's avatar over there (same as here) and I lol'd. xD
Exnem's newest "farewell" post (or at least the most recent one I've read; post #539) also makes me lol. "People think they're entitled to free stuff... I give them free stuff, and then I make more stuff and I think I'm entitled to get money from them. So if you don't agree with me I'mma go cry in my soup.... Wah." Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: calalily on 2006 December 21, 23:14:59 Yes, well, there's a new goodbye, and he's still there.
I would like to humbly thank torque for my avi - the more I look at it, the funkier I think it is. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Plum on 2006 December 21, 23:28:42 Not just one new one, but two between that post and the most recent post in the thread. Nice.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: wicked_one on 2006 December 21, 23:40:20 Quote from: "teadrinker" Ok but I think we got as far as we have with this by not letting it turn into a flame war. Be a shame to lose it now. i agree although i'm glad bluesoup called him on his crap, i have a feeling that if it keeps going certain mods and sheeple (probably tig judging by her posts in that thread) will demand something be done to put out the flames and even if delphy doesnt care or want to (obviously he's not an exnem fan lol) he'll end up closing the thread or spanking people. and you can bet that lyric was the one that pointed the thread out to him and that he didnt bother to read anything before his name was mentioned regarding the alleged stealing... he has effectively turned the entire thread into being all about him, insulted everyone, tried to get people to feel sorry for him, and threatened to leave more than once. congrats exnem, you're almost lyric! just start cussing alot more and start openly insulting people (instead of the veiled insults) and you'll be exactly like her :lol: Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2006 December 21, 23:59:20 If you look here http://forums.sims2community.com/showgroups.php? you'll see tig can't do shit. the moderators of sims 2 chat are cleary listed at the bottom of the forum too and she's not one of them. On vbulletin mods have to be assigned to the forum to be able to moderate it. Though admins can moderate all.
Wonder how long till exnem comes back this time. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: calalily on 2006 December 22, 00:05:46 My bet is 1-2 hours at most - he's already said goodbye about six times - I think he's waiting for the sheeple to beg him to stay. I say let him wait.
I would also like to curse you for your "pirates life for me" - I've been singing that damn song for 2 days - even since I first clicked on the link :twisted: Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: tIIsuggas on 2006 December 22, 00:06:17 Why do people rise to the bait of the attention whores anyway?
Isn't the best treatment to totally ignore their outbursts. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: wicked_one on 2006 December 22, 00:09:39 oh i know she cant but she (and others) can bitch for delphy to do something...because flaming isnt allowed there blah blah blah. :roll:
did exnem just make himself "invisible" or does it only say that hes offline if hes really offline? even if he decides not to come back, lyric will keep him informed. i'm kinda hoping he doesnt decide to post again..the thread doesnt need to be focused on that dramaqueen Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Plum on 2006 December 22, 00:16:50 Quote from: "tIIsuggas" Why do people rise to the bait of the attention whores anyway? Isn't the best treatment to totally ignore their outbursts. I don't see anyone acknowledging exnem other than to tell him he's a dummy. Maybe in PM. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: calalily on 2006 December 22, 00:20:47 I think it's great that he's posted there - he's made a giant fool of himself, and made himself out to be a vain selfish prick.
He could merely have logged out, and be watching intently. As far as the flaming goes, no one has called him names, or done anything but talk honestly about it - there is no flaming whatsoever going on, so even if they complain its pretty hard to justify the deletion of the thread. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: redisenchanted on 2006 December 22, 01:02:50 He's BAACK! Maybe to say goodbye again.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Aquamarine on 2006 December 22, 02:12:51 Since no one's said it yet:
INTERNET = SERIOUS BUSINESS. God, exnem is such a whiner that I just want to moon him and his entire family. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Surelyfunke on 2006 December 22, 02:22:02 Oh I think it was great that Exnem of all people stepped into the thread. Kinda helps answer the question that started the thread.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2006 December 22, 02:33:51 Quote from: "calalily" I would also like to curse you for your "pirates life for me" - I've been singing that damn song for 2 days - even since I first clicked on the link :twisted: Hehe, it's actually a song from a kids show :P Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: jesserocket on 2006 December 22, 02:57:34 Quote from: "PirateBooty" Quote from: "calalily" I would also like to curse you for your "pirates life for me" - I've been singing that damn song for 2 days - even since I first clicked on the link :twisted: Hehe, it's actually a song from a kids show :P JesseRocket delivers! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0yI2MQf8Tk ...I have it on my iPod. I'm so lame. :( Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2006 December 22, 03:01:10 Quote from: "jesserocket" I'm so lame. :( Quoted for truth Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Surelyfunke on 2006 December 22, 03:01:56 Oh lulz!
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: jesserocket on 2006 December 22, 03:02:51 Quote from: "PirateBooty" Quote from: "jesserocket" I'm so lame. :( Quoted for truth Ooh, SNAP! Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: liegenschonheit on 2006 December 22, 03:06:26 I love that song!
...What? Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Solowren on 2006 December 22, 03:26:27 Quote from: "liegenschonheit" I love that song! ...What? I'm also rather addicted. <3 Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Violet Tonks on 2006 December 22, 04:30:53 In the line of childish piratey songs....
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FTbno38ImQQ It's disturbing when this is what you wake up to in the mornings :roll: Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Randomness on 2006 December 22, 06:41:32 I'd like to know what BlueSoup said that got her post deleted by simsample with the reason: be nice.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: BlueSoup on 2006 December 22, 07:14:41 I replied to that person who said, "I only agree with Delphy...etc. etc. blah blah blah" with this:
Wow. Could you be any more of a kiss-a$$? Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Solowren on 2006 December 22, 07:17:58 I read that post. It was pretty much dripping with kiss-ass.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Plum on 2006 December 22, 07:42:52 Seriously. Liek omg totally gag me with a spoon.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2006 December 22, 15:30:50 Quote from: "Plum" Seriously. Liek omg totally gag me with a spoon. Ya like gross me out the green door Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Plum on 2006 December 22, 23:10:29 4 realz!!!!!!!!!!!11111
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: lemmiwinks on 2006 December 23, 04:53:47 Quote from: "jesserocket" Quote from: "PirateBooty" Quote from: "calalily" I would also like to curse you for your "pirates life for me" - I've been singing that damn song for 2 days - even since I first clicked on the link :twisted: Hehe, it's actually a song from a kids show :P JesseRocket delivers! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0yI2MQf8Tk ...I have it on my iPod. I'm so lame. :( That was very painful to watch. I almost made it to the end. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: snadradeocconer on 2006 December 25, 18:47:46 so anyone know of any new Enema (Exnem) gossip?
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Swashbuckler on 2006 December 26, 04:21:24 Quote from: "snadradeocconer" so anyone know of any new Enema (Exnem) gossip? I don't think anything is actually new with Exmen, he's always been whining about something and acting like a deity among Sims. Just poke and laugh :) Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: ChineseFood on 2006 December 29, 01:47:24 I think I might have some new Exnem gossip. Has anyone looked at his page at TSR recently? (thesimsresource.com/artists/exnem/) He's starting to release some of his stuff there. Could it be that he is taking his toys and moving to TSR?
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: BlueSoup on 2006 December 29, 01:50:42 I doubt he's moving to TSR. LyricLee seems to have a pretty firm grip on him and his mind, so why would she want that? She has no power there (as of yet :P)
I have so many suspicions racing through my mind, but if I let spew all of them, I'm afraid I'll sound as paranoid as Pescado. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Plum on 2006 December 29, 01:51:18 Nah, it's probably just more advertising for his own site.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: tIIsuggas on 2006 December 29, 01:52:43 Quote from: "BlueSoup" I doubt he's moving to TSR. LyricLee seems to have a pretty firm grip on him and his mind, so why would she want that? She has no power there (as of yet :P) I have so many suspicions racing through my mind, but if I let spew all of them, I'm afraid I'll sound as paranoid as Pescado. Spit em out, there is nothing wrong with conspiracy theories. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: toomanyguppys on 2006 December 29, 07:18:34 Well, since he's spatting with MTS2 again, he's got to get free advertising for his crap someplace, or no new people will become enlightened to his modding genius. Wonder if he realizes that TSR might let him get mad and go home, but he'll have to leave his appples behind.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: tinkrfreakenbell on 2006 December 29, 08:28:56 Quote Wonder if he realizes that TSR might let him get mad and go home, but he'll have to leave his appples behind. Holy crap that made me laugh, I can just see it now. Wonder if he will lay on the floor flayling about and crying that they won't give him his toys back. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: ChineseFood on 2006 December 29, 19:07:13 Quote from: "toomanyguppys" Wonder if he realizes that TSR might let him get mad and go home, but he'll have to leave his appples behind. That made me laugh, too. :lol: You guys are probably right... he just needs more free advertising someplace. :roll: Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2006 December 29, 23:47:05 I feel pretty disappointed right now. On Exnem's site they've released a load of double-sided floors - the sort that act as a ceiling underneath. Well fair enough someone had to actually make sets of them available. But while everyone is telling them what geniuses they are, they're just lapping it up and haven't had the decency to say that it was Niol who actually made the discovery at MTS2.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2006 December 30, 02:25:39 Quote from: "BlueSoup" I doubt he's moving to TSR. LyricLee seems to have a pretty firm grip on him and his mind, so why would she want that? She has no power there (as of yet :P) Well she ass-tongued Thomas enough to get a free sub to TSR from what I heard Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: BlueSoup on 2006 December 30, 02:27:03 Quote from: "PirateBooty" Quote from: "BlueSoup" I doubt he's moving to TSR. LyricLee seems to have a pretty firm grip on him and his mind, so why would she want that? She has no power there (as of yet :P) Well she ass-tongued Thomas enough to get a free sub to TSR from what I heard LOL! Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2006 December 30, 07:10:10 Quote from: "BlueSoup" Quote from: "PirateBooty" Quote from: "BlueSoup" I doubt he's moving to TSR. LyricLee seems to have a pretty firm grip on him and his mind, so why would she want that? She has no power there (as of yet :P) Well she ass-tongued Thomas enough to get a free sub to TSR from what I heard LOL! No he's not moving!! just trying to build up his subscibers by stealing TSRs. I saw in upcoming releases his cookies, if you read what it says unless its been edited, he's telling people to go to his site for more of them. Next thing it will be Insiminator he hits. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: jesserocket on 2006 December 31, 02:48:32 Quote from: "Soup Parrot" Quote from: "BlueSoup" Quote from: "PirateBooty" Quote from: "BlueSoup" I doubt he's moving to TSR. LyricLee seems to have a pretty firm grip on him and his mind, so why would she want that? She has no power there (as of yet :P) Well she ass-tongued Thomas enough to get a free sub to TSR from what I heard LOL! No he's not moving!! just trying to build up his subscibers by stealing TSRs. I saw in upcoming releases his cookies, if you read what it says unless its been edited, he's telling people to go to his site for more of them. Next thing it will be Insiminator he hits. Yep. That's what he does. Was rather notorious for it over at MTS2. Guess he couldn't stay away from the free advertising... Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Pescado on 2006 December 31, 04:21:52 Quote from: "Soup Parrot" No he's not moving!! just trying to build up his subscibers by stealing TSRs. I saw in upcoming releases his cookies, if you read what it says unless its been edited, he's telling people to go to his site for more of them. Next thing it will be Insiminator he hits. We'll just have to make sure he's not allowed to pull such a stunt there, then. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: bethgael on 2006 December 31, 08:10:02 Quote from: "PirateBooty" he's another one that needs my foot up his ass with steel toes. *snickers* Send in Vincent V. from FFVII. His boots would do the trick. Verrrry sharp. :twisted: Title: Too late Post by: bethgael on 2006 December 31, 09:50:36 Quote from: "Pescado" Quote from: "Soup Parrot" No he's not moving!! just trying to build up his subscibers by stealing TSRs. I saw in upcoming releases his cookies, if you read what it says unless its been edited, he's telling people to go to his site for more of them. Next thing it will be Insiminator he hits. We'll just have to make sure he's not allowed to pull such a stunt there, then. He doesn't need to. LyricLee is doing it for him: http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=30558&highlight=exnem Given the content he asks people to pay for, I'm thinking someone should contact Disney. :twisted: Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2006 December 31, 10:17:30 Bah! I was gonna post on the site itself about the lack of credit for the ceiling tiles, but when I read the T&C for registering I realised I'd just be setting myself up to be humiliated by some public account flagging. (I said flagging not flogging). So I mentioned it on their update thread at InSimenator. I suppose I could get my public flogging there instead...
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2006 December 31, 21:11:56 loved the post you made there. hopefully the proper credit is given, especially after that stink about food no rot code ...
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: bethgael on 2007 January 01, 00:31:03 Quote from: "teadrinker" Bah! I was gonna post on the site itself about the lack of credit for the ceiling tiles, but when I read the T&C for registering I realised I'd just be setting myself up to be humiliated by some public account flagging. (I said flagging not flogging). So I mentioned it on their update thread at InSimenator. I suppose I could get my public flogging there instead... Nah. I think that'll be me. :D Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 01, 13:21:18 LOL well we'll all get flogged. But Eric, Kathy and them dont censor this sites link :)
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2007 January 01, 23:08:47 beosboxboy is such a dumb cunt. yeah it's TOTALLY OFF TOPIC to point out that someone did not provide proper credit.
I wish his computer would explode in his lap. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: idtaminger on 2007 January 02, 04:30:43 Wasn't he the moron who made that post complaining about the Exchange?
Like, the exchange totally violates creators terms of use!!!11111oneoneone How dare EA not read creators terms of use?!?!?1111 Evil EA! Uploading package files that they control anyways!!! Moron. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: bethgael on 2007 January 02, 07:43:32 And my response received a pm at Insim:
I said that it was ironic that exnem and Lyric didn't credit others considering that exnem threw a tanty at MTS2 because people "stole" his code and that the site was offering Disney & Final Fantasy based products for pay, made from trade marked images. I also mentioned that Disney was rampant in enforcing copyright. Quote PM: Post Moved -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Bethgael, The post that you created in the following thread has been moved ----- Post: That's kind of ironic when you recall exnem's tantrum at mod... New Thread: this is bull shit ( a linked thread) ----- This is an automated message, please do not reply. Regards, The Forum Management click on the "this is bullshit" link and I get a "you do not have permission to access this page." Which part is bullshit? The part that he is asking money for Disney & Square Enix trade marked images or the part where he threw a wobbly? Has to be the second, I suppose, fer it'n shure t'ain't the first: http://www.exnemsims.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=139 Disney, Moogle and whoops, missed one. Jim Henson company, even more militant than Disney. I am reasonably sure Exnem doesn't have a license to sell Disney -related images. I mean, even EA had to pay to use Hillary. (Edited for clarity) Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 02, 09:22:20 Wait till Disney, Hensen and all them are made aware of EXnem, he will have bigger issues before him Beth. I mean if certain buissiness haave already told Retail sims, and SC to pull their stuff, eventually someone will report him. As far as sites I don't enjoy posting on them as they are censored (this one isnt ) :). Insim could of deleted your post, afraid maybe your making waves possibly, who knows, maybe Exnem is their friend?.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: The ISZ on 2007 January 02, 09:27:54 I have a good feeling that Disney has been notified. :twisted:
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 02, 09:42:02 :twisted: Isz :lol:
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: tIIsuggas on 2007 January 02, 10:28:12 I have a good feeling that Nike, Reebok, Adidas, etc. Know about all their logos on all the uploads at TSR. :twisted:
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 02, 10:45:01 sounds like mischief abounds :)
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: bethgael on 2007 January 02, 11:11:20 Quote from: "The ISZ" I have a good feeling that Disney has been notified. :twisted: Me too. :twisted: Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 02, 11:47:34 :twisted: must be a mutiny
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2007 January 02, 11:57:36 Lyriclee has a few hours ago admitted on her site she had help with the floor/ceiling tiles. The admission was a bit subdued but it beats lapping up adulation for the discovery like she was doing. Actually that happened to me once, I wish I could remember exactly what it was, but anyway everyone was saying how brilliant I was when I next opened the thread, and I was really flustered to realise I was taking the praise for someone else's initial work. I had to say who it was obviously, and I was embarrassed on behalf of the poeple who had already posted worshipful comments.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Swashbuckler on 2007 January 02, 12:27:01 [SARCASM]Why should anyone from Exnem's site need to credit anyone? He is after all a "CREATOR" and way above everyone else. He invented the food code for the sims, skin diseases for sims.... and he even invented the internet. Disney, Lucas Arts, and Square Enix can shove it, cause this guy is a frackin' god. Now shut up and give him your money so he can support himself and his family because he is too good to get a real job.[/SARCASM]
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 02, 12:33:56 He will need a job when their lawyers come knocking at his door. Not only will he have to desist but pay up.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: torque on 2007 January 02, 12:43:57 LMAO skin diseases!!! That was just beautiful!!
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: bethgael on 2007 January 02, 16:14:29 Quote from: "Swashbuckler" [SARCASM]Why should anyone from Exnem's site need to credit anyone? He is after all a "CREATOR" and way above everyone else. He invented the food code for the sims, skin diseases for sims.... and he even invented the internet. Disney, Lucas Arts, and Square Enix can shove it, cause this guy is a frackin' god. Now shut up and give him your money so he can support himself and his family because he is too good to get a real job.[/SARCASM] (In a very small quiet voice) and anyone who disagrees with them is a liar.... :shock: Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: lordrichter on 2007 January 02, 22:07:41 I don't keep up with who does what for which website, so forgive me if this is common knowledge.
I like how the person (beosboxboy) at Insim that trimmed the Exnem thread is featured in LyricLee's latest ad in the thread. I guess there was no conflict of interest there. :roll: Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: happycowlover on 2007 January 03, 00:09:35 It's sad that Exnem took his crap off on MTS2 just because he had a bitch-fit on S2C. :P
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: ChineseFood on 2007 January 03, 04:30:57 Quote from: "Soup Parrot" He will need a job when their lawyers come knocking at his door. Not only will he have to desist but pay up. Agreed. Disney pretty much ignores fan creations as long as no money is being made, but the instant they smell profit, they unleash a pack of rabid wolves to take care of the issue. :lol: Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2007 January 03, 05:38:00 I find it amusing how two faced LyricLee really is. When she was a mod at MTS2 and S2C and stuff she HATED insim and all the people there (kathy, besox etc) and talked shit about them constantly and said they ripped off Delphy etc.
Then she gets shitcanned from her mod position and is now bestest buddies with insim and the people she hated. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: BlueSoup on 2007 January 03, 05:39:08 Well, that's hypocrites for ya. ;)
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2007 January 03, 09:47:03 It was interesting to see Beos suddenly have an upload there after he renamed our part of the insim thread to "this is bullshit"
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 03, 09:54:35 teadrinker which thread is that? Please post it.
I will say at least Beosboys are freebies :). Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2007 January 03, 10:08:03 I can't - after they split it and I got the PM with the link, it tells me I don't have the authority to view it.
It was from the Exnem updates thread, where I told her I was disappointed that she was accepting all the adulation for a discovery she didn't make. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 03, 10:29:48 This will probably get deleted what i just posted lol, but i been working on this thread, help me here :)
http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?t=32768&page=2 This probably going to be deleted or disappear, but i asked a question over here at the very end of the thread. http://www.insimenator.net/showthread.php?p=503202&posted=1#post503202 Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2007 January 03, 10:38:49 I'm not going to go and deliberately make trouble on InSim cos I regard Eric and Kathy as mates, but I'll post if I spot a particular point that needs making. Remember Eric made one of the most useful downloads of the whole Sims2 world, and it's totally free, so I don't feel inclined to stomp on his forum rules.
I've just read your post and it looks like a fair point! Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 03, 10:41:44 No i like Kathy and Eric, and love insiminator. I think EA needs to work with ERic and Numenor (sigh). I dont think I was making trouble for them.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2007 January 03, 10:43:27 You never know, Eric might decide to ban paysite ads anyway.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 03, 10:50:35 Well if eric did that, that be a gain for us, no paysite advertising on Insiminator that be great. 8)
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2007 January 03, 10:55:35 I mean there are so many ways that the amount of pay content in the Sims 2 community can be reduced without even starting arguments over it - at the very least the larger more responsible fansites can stop publishing ads that lead to pay sites or pay sections or sites with "gifts", and post a sticky reminding users to support free sites.
Not sure whether Delphy's method of simply disabling the ad sites forum is the best way, cos that means the completely free sites can't advertise either. My site has a blanket ban on ads from pay, or part-pay sites. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: lordrichter on 2007 January 03, 12:46:48 On your web forum where you put your paysite disclaimer, you should change "donation is completely voluntary" to be more specific. To some people, all donations are completely voluntary. You might want to tie it back to the gifts, or getting something in return for the donation.
Aside, how did it come about that selling stuff is now a donation? I guess I donate to Walmart when I go there, now? Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 03, 12:55:14 Lord good point you should post that omment over at our EA boards thread :).
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: lordrichter on 2007 January 03, 13:23:28 I would, but I don't see a lot of confusion or discussion going on about donations right now.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: calalily on 2007 January 03, 13:37:19 Would someone with a paypal account lodge a complaint against exnem?
Under their policy: Quote Your Information and your activities (including your payments and receipt of payments) through our Service shall not: (a) be false, inaccurate or misleading; (b) be fraudulent or involve the sale of counterfeit or stolen items; (c) consist of providing yourself a cash advance from your credit card (or helping others to do so), (d) be related in any way to gambling and/or gaming activities, including but not limited to payment or the acceptance of payments for wagers, gambling debts or gambling winnings, regardless of the location or type of gambling activity (including online and offline casinos, sports wagering and office pools); (e)violate PayPal's Acceptable Use Policy; (f) infringe on any third party's copyright, patent, trademark, trade secret or other property rights or rights of publicity or privacy; (g) violate any law, statute, ordinance, contract or regulation (including, but not limited to, those governing financial services, consumer protection, unfair competition, antidiscrimination, or false advertising); (h) be defamatory, trade libelous, unlawfully threatening or unlawfully harassing; (i) be obscene or contain child pornography; (j) contain any viruses, Trojan horses, worms, time bombs cancelbots, easter eggs or other computer programming routines that may damage, detrimentally interfere with, surreptitiously intercept or expropriate any system, data or other personal information; or (k) create liability for us or cause us to lose (in whole or in part) the services of our ISP's or other suppliers. If you use, or attempt to use the Service for purposes other than sending and receiving payments and managing your account, including but not limited to tampering, hacking, modifying or otherwise corrupting the security or functionality of Service, your account will be terminated and you will be subject to damages and other penalties, including criminal prosecution where available. That covers almost everything he's made. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 03, 13:39:21 Cala, dont think he uses Paypal, let me go check. I thought it was another format.
Oh great now notice you click on DONATE button, thats deceptive: now look what it says: So you want to become a member of Exnem's Sims?... Great! Simply subscribe using your paypal account or credit card and you'll be downloading thousands of stuff in no time. For our grand re-opening we are lowering the subscription fee from 7$ to 5$ for a limited time to show our appreciation to all our members. Currently we have 1000s of objects of the best quality you can find in the net. But don't take my word for it, just browse our site, forums and downloads areas to prove it yourself. I guess its now Paypal too...? He does the donate sub switcheroo too :x Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: BlueSoup on 2007 January 03, 15:08:01 Quote from: "lordrichter" On your web forum where you put your paysite disclaimer, you should change "donation is completely voluntary" to be more specific. To some people, all donations are completely voluntary. You might want to tie it back to the gifts, or getting something in return for the donation. Aside, how did it come about that selling stuff is now a donation? I guess I donate to Walmart when I go there, now? When you tie it to a gift, it ceases to become completely voluntary and becomes selling said item. Which is the same as Walmart, stupid LordRichter. This is what we've been saying all along! Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 03, 15:18:26 Rose's fax complaint about this site said it all, she referenced the people as consumers ie same as customers.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Captain Feathersword on 2007 January 03, 15:32:41 I think Lord Richter was suggesting an edit so it sounds more like "A donation by definition is.." so it is more obvious that what paysites are saying is wrong.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: neriana on 2007 January 03, 16:48:01 Quote from: "Soup Parrot" Currently we have 1000s of objects of the best quality you can find in the net. But don't take my word for it, just browse our site, forums and downloads areas to prove it yourself. Thousands? Really? I find that hard to believe. Edit: I went to investigate that claim, but the site appears to be down. Hmm. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2007 January 03, 16:51:59 Quote from: "calalily" Would someone with a paypal account lodge a complaint against exnem? Under their policy: Quote Your Information and your activities (including your payments and receipt of payments) through our Service shall not: (a) be false, inaccurate or misleading; (b) be fraudulent or involve the sale of counterfeit or stolen items; (c) consist of providing yourself a cash advance from your credit card (or helping others to do so), (d) be related in any way to gambling and/or gaming activities, including but not limited to payment or the acceptance of payments for wagers, gambling debts or gambling winnings, regardless of the location or type of gambling activity (including online and offline casinos, sports wagering and office pools); (e)violate PayPal's Acceptable Use Policy; (f) infringe on any third party's copyright, patent, trademark, trade secret or other property rights or rights of publicity or privacy; (g) violate any law, statute, ordinance, contract or regulation (including, but not limited to, those governing financial services, consumer protection, unfair competition, antidiscrimination, or false advertising); (h) be defamatory, trade libelous, unlawfully threatening or unlawfully harassing; (i) be obscene or contain child pornography; (j) contain any viruses, Trojan horses, worms, time bombs cancelbots, easter eggs or other computer programming routines that may damage, detrimentally interfere with, surreptitiously intercept or expropriate any system, data or other personal information; or (k) create liability for us or cause us to lose (in whole or in part) the services of our ISP's or other suppliers. If you use, or attempt to use the Service for purposes other than sending and receiving payments and managing your account, including but not limited to tampering, hacking, modifying or otherwise corrupting the security or functionality of Service, your account will be terminated and you will be subject to damages and other penalties, including criminal prosecution where available. That covers almost everything he's made. Tell me how to lodge one and I'll do it! Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: calalily on 2007 January 03, 16:54:06 Don't believe it - I'm a pedantic fucker, and I went over to their site after Lyriclee (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem)claimed that Exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) was very generous.
This is a quote of what I said on s2c that the gutless Lyriclee (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) hasn't bothered to reply to. Quote Lyric Lee: Actually no beth- Our site has about 800 free files and 300 donation items. And exnem has shared alot for free. Please don't outright lie. Quote In matter of fact, exnem has not shared a lot of things. I just went and did a search on your forum for all of his uploads. There were 11 free items (several of which were recolours of one hair mesh) There are however, 64 pay files - 9 of which are maxi recolours. Exnem doesn't seem to be sharing a lot there - and as for the community downloads, there are 300 in the subscriber area, and as 500 are community downloads - that means hosted there for free, and of course, including those 11 items exnem has generously given *!* And to Piratebooty go to this page, login (it won't let me) http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_security-center-outside and click on violations of paypal policy on the right hand side. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2007 January 03, 17:05:27 That's because LyricLee (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) knows she can't back up her bullshit claims about exnemsims (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem)
exnemsims (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) exnemsims (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) exnemsims (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) exnemsims (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) edit: thanks I'll file a complaint now :D Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2007 January 03, 17:19:04 Wow, okay, I'm not one to double post (hate it usually) but holy hell. I went to file the complaint and tried to go to his site to give a direct link and ran into some fun. I've tried both IE and firefox, so I don't think it's a browser issue - is this happening for anyone else?
The exnemsims main page loads totally blank nothing on it. The forum pages return a database error saying Quote Database error The database has encountered a problem. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please try the following: Load the page again by clicking the Refresh button in your web browser. Open the exnemsims.com home page, then try to open another page. Click the Back button to try another link. The exnemsims.com forum technical staff have been notified of the error, though you may contact them if the problem persists. We apologise for any inconvenience. I wonder if the site is just borked or if we're seeing some more drama Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2007 January 03, 17:22:25 It's coming up with a blank white page for me. I think it's deliberate because there is html source on the page.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2007 January 03, 17:23:53 I prefer double posting than editing - otherwise most people miss your added bit as it doesn't flag as an unread message.
After we clear up all these paysites I am going to start a pro-double-posting movement. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: calalily on 2007 January 03, 17:25:57 I just tried all those pages I looked at yesterday, and all of them are off line - all of the pages I went to (which amounts to about 60). The whole site is down. Lucky paying customers, eh?
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: BlueSoup on 2007 January 03, 17:27:09 Stop double-posting!!! :evil: :wink:
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: BlueSoup on 2007 January 03, 17:27:45 I really mean it!
You people think I don't know you're just trying to drive up your post counts, but I'm on to you... Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2007 January 03, 17:28:08 The site isn't down - it's functioning. It's been edited to remove the content! They've taken their toys home.
And, Bluesoup, lol! Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: calalily on 2007 January 03, 17:30:02 How do you know
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: BlueSoup on 2007 January 03, 17:31:26 That is not a proper double-post, calalily, so I've removed your second one.
You can't just put the last word of the sentence in a new post, that's so cheating. :P Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: calalily on 2007 January 03, 17:32:24 Goddamn it Blue - I can't think of anything else to say in the second post.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: calalily on 2007 January 03, 17:32:48 It's alright I'm going to cheat then
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2007 January 03, 17:34:16 HAhaha I really hope they have taken their toys and gone home, that would be hilarious especially after shelling out money for vbulletin and a new domain (not that a new domain name costs more than a few bucks)
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2007 January 03, 17:35:28 Maybe everything is at TSR now and he's keeping his toys there because he CAN NEVER TAKE THEM HOME AGAIN
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2007 January 03, 17:36:09 Calalily in case you were asking me "how do you know" it's because the site opens, go to the home page, it opens a proper edited page that just doesn't happen to have anything showing on it. If you then look at Page/Source, you get some html code so there is a page actually displaying it's just not showing any text. It's a page that has been put there deliberately to show a blank screen.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: calalily on 2007 January 03, 17:41:25 It's back up - must have been a temporary bork.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2007 January 03, 17:43:01 back to the reporting then!
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2007 January 03, 17:44:06 weirdness, I still get a blank page. maybe every time I say I'm reporting they take the site down! :P
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2007 January 03, 17:44:15 It's not coming up for me
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: calalily on 2007 January 03, 17:47:53 Go here and test it for me http://www.exnemsims.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=114
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: BlueSoup on 2007 January 03, 17:49:15 Seems to work for me?
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Captain Feathersword on 2007 January 03, 17:59:10 Maybe it's just the front page as it doesn't load, even from the forum.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2007 January 03, 18:06:34 Yes the forum is coming up for me, but it wasn't. And the main page still isn't
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: calalily on 2007 January 03, 18:08:41 I can't get the front page either - yet I did a couple of hours ago.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: calalily on 2007 January 03, 18:17:32 I finally got the home page - are those Google ads new?
http://www.exnemsims.com/ Exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem)Exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem)Exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem)Exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem)Exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem)Exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: torque on 2007 January 03, 18:55:28 Quote from: "BlueSoup" I really mean it! You people think I don't know you're just trying to drive up your post counts, but I'm on to you... Are we having a race on the biggest post count? The forum says something about asking Lyric about the old downloads if one wants them. What does it meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaan? :P Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2007 January 03, 19:01:56 The Disney ones?
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Captain Feathersword on 2007 January 03, 19:02:21 Couldn't you at least say exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem/) and lyriclee (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem/) if you must talk about them?
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Well the ones of Exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem)'s that you have to pm Lyriclee (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) about are the adult skins - it is against paypal terms of use to post nude skins - so its just written all over the forum that you have to contact Lyric Lee (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) to get them - one would think that paypal would also have a problem with this, buuut.... I just looked at the cache for Exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem)'s site - those google ads are new! Bastards!!! Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2007 January 03, 19:29:13 Lol! That would be fine if they were giving away their donation sets free.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2007 January 03, 20:55:06 I don't see any google ads at all. You guys need to use firefox with adblock and filterset.g :P
anyway, I hit the motherlode at exnemsims (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem/) and reported the link for misc. under buy mode for the downloads section. Go to exnemsims (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem/) and check out that part and see all the copyright violations waving at you courtesy of exnemsims (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem/) I hope paypal actually does something to exnemsims (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem/) as a result! Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: iamjbird on 2007 January 03, 22:44:05 Quote Important Announcement IMPORTANT: If you're looking for our older downloads please PM LyricLee to get help. Click this announcement to contact her. In other news: Exnem turns 63 Today! HAPPY BIRTHDAY EXNEM! i tried to go around the free area and this is what i got... i didn't know he was 63. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: torque on 2007 January 03, 22:50:03 Quote from: "iamjbird" Quote Important Announcement IMPORTANT: If you're looking for our older downloads please PM LyricLee to get help. Click this announcement to contact her. In other news: Exnem turns 63 Today! HAPPY BIRTHDAY EXNEM! i tried to go around the free area and this is what i got... i didn't know he was 63. And acts like 3. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2007 January 03, 23:39:20 God for someone that old, his tantrums seem a whole hell of a lot MORE pathetic.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 04, 00:01:06 63 EXNEM, todays his birthday? Well I sure do hope he enjoys his present from you all when it arrives! :twisted:
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: jesserocket on 2007 January 04, 00:20:01 63? Heavens.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 04, 00:49:24 beosboy blocked my post where I wrote under Exnems preview, Doues Exnem have a license for the disney and pacman, just wondering?Reason off topic! Exnem was the topic you want me to start a separate thread on over there where they are discussing Peggy?
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: joannajuen on 2007 January 04, 05:32:10 Quote from: "Soup Parrot" beosboy blocked my post where I wrote under Exnems preview, Doues Exnem have a license for the disney and pacman, just wondering? Once I can find the right e-mail address to contact them at, I plan to ask Disney that myself. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: graniaomalley on 2007 January 04, 05:40:13 So, correct me if I"m wrong, but you're saying that exnemsims (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem/) violates copyright, that exnemsims (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem/) violates Disney's copyright, and that exnemsims (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem/) is also oddly old yet acts like a spoiled, small child? I wonder if paypal is aware that exnemsims (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem/) is also charging money via their service for adult content. If I were paypal, I think I'd be upset that exnemsims (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem/) is violating their terms of use. I expect Disney would also be a bit irked that exnemsims (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem/) is violating Disney's copright.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: LesserOr on 2007 January 04, 06:58:23 Quote from: "calalily" Well the ones of Exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem)'s that you have to pm Lyriclee (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) about are the adult skins - it is against paypal terms of use to post nude skins - so its just written all over the forum that you have to contact Lyric Lee (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) to get them - one would think that paypal would also have a problem with this, buuut.... Yes, but only if they're referred to as adult, nude, anatomically correct, etc. It can't just be common knowledge or implied. "The files that were here before" probably won't count, unless it's obnoxiously obvious that Exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) and Lyric Lee (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) are circumventing the rules. Even if not, enough complaints would get Paypal moving. I seriously doubt Exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) and Lyric Lee (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) are the first to weasel this way. Trivia: The Muppet Show muppets are Disney now. Disney Legal is more prone to sue over them because the Henson rights were split, and some of the other buyers retained limited use over what Disney acquired (Sesame Street is still allowed to show old Kermit sketches, for instance.) And as you've likely noticed, Disney's been pimping them out to any takers lately, so they're especially trigger happy. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 04, 07:19:31 My post didnt make sense I was sOOOO sleepy.
Lol was reating to insiminator making my thread disappear. If we can get evidence that Rose or peggy stole copyrighted meshes, which is what HP I working on. Then we can contact paypal in mass, with the copyright holders of the original mesh filing a complaint too. Now how many subscribers would they loose without a paypal option? Anytime I see that Bank stransfer nonsense to another country, I dont even consider it, paypal safer. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: HystericalParoxysm on 2007 January 04, 07:36:47 Well, if I can prove a mesh is stolen to my own satisfaction, I think it should then be up to the Poser artist and/or their legal counsel to contact the "creator" of the stolen hair to give them a chance to pull it and issue an apology and notice to their downloaders to delete the item.
Though the location of the sites in question may make that more difficult (and there's no telling what the "creators" will say in response, if anything), there is a right way to do something like that, a set of steps that the Poser creator should take to protect their intellectual property, and I'm leaving that particular part up to them, if and when it comes to that. I know it's all about crushing paysites here, but if it comes down to something being stolen, I think it'd be rather satisfying to watch them have to destroy their own credibility, pulling half their catalogue and issuing an apology, rather than having to go through a lot of effort with a bunch of different folks to discredit them. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 04, 08:08:18 Hp I agree that would all give us satisfaction to see. The problem is the two sites in question are in China, last time I looked China was still not cooperating with respect to intellectual property in regards to copyrights and all. So its kind of like, while it may work on someone doing this in EU, North America, Australia, etc, our course of action is kind of limited to how we can stop them, especially after I saw a post at Insim, that sounds like many wont care either out there. So, I think best bet is to have them loose Paypal. And if they get a new option of payment, hit that one, etc till they finnally have no options of easy safe payment left. I need though to check on China's status when I have free time to verify it. It be nice to do it the first way.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: ... on 2007 January 04, 10:20:57 Quote from: "HystericalParoxysm" I know it's all about crushing paysites here, but if it comes down to something being stolen, I think it'd be rather satisfying to watch them have to destroy their own credibility, pulling half their catalogue and issuing an apology, rather than having to go through a lot of effort with a bunch of different folks to discredit them. And as fun as the screaming drama is, doing it that way is going to make all of us look a lot more credible and our position that much more attractive. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: stim on 2007 January 04, 10:57:14 Quote from: "Soup Parrot" last time I looked China was still not cooperating with respect to intellectual property in regards to copyrights and all. Since China entered the WTO, and was backed by more than a few US & Japanese corporations in making it the worlds industrial darling, China loves copyright. The government loves to please those with money. Unfortunately, that's exactly that. If, say, Disney or Toyota came knocking on their door, they'd listen. They'd jump through hoops and not only prove that the situation was taken care of, but everyone responsible was fired, everyone responsible for fixing the mess was given a raise, and they cured cancer along the way. Poser artists, though, didn't invest billions of dollars in their economy. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: The ISZ on 2007 January 04, 11:10:54 Quote from: "joannajuen" Quote from: "Soup Parrot" beosboy blocked my post where I wrote under Exnems preview, Doues Exnem have a license for the disney and pacman, just wondering? Once I can find the right e-mail address to contact them at, I plan to ask Disney that myself. I already did that and the dude read the email, but did not reply back to me. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 04, 11:43:27 how do you know he read it
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: torque on 2007 January 04, 11:44:53 Quote from: "Soup Parrot" how do you know he read it You can request a confirmation for the read e-mail. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 04, 11:48:55 Stim thats probably true, China will listen to Microsoft, (they went to Gates before Bush)over poser artists (small fish to them). But China has a relationship with Ebay, Ebay has a Chinese version of their site 9cant remember all the details it was like a partnership). Ebay owns Paypal, so Paypal is the best route. If some of the meshes were brokered by DaZ3d, Daz can also send a letter, but Ebay has more influence.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 04, 11:50:27 ok maybe he has to investigate the matter first.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2007 January 04, 11:54:16 The trouble with this approach is won't it make trouble for other people besides just paysites? I mean it could end up cutting off our noses to spite our faces. It can't only be paysite creators who want to occasionally sneak in a branded item.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: ... on 2007 January 04, 11:59:16 Quote from: "teadrinker" The trouble with this approach is won't it make trouble for other people besides just paysites? I mean it could end up cutting off our noses to spite our faces. It can't only be paysite creators who want to occasionally sneak in a branded item. I remember Atavera made a number of signs for various stores. Teadrinker has a very valid point. We're here to destroy paysites, not stomp on the entire community with a copyright crusade that could easily get out of hand if we go running to tattle to corporations at every opportunity. It also looks like focusing on that, we're losing our focus on the intial issue. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Pescado on 2007 January 04, 12:04:21 The simple approach is just to get them kicked off Paypal. If we get them kicked off of all the payment services people are willing to use, this effectively terminates their ability to function as a paysite. Freesites, which don't depend on Paypal to function, are not affected. I don't really think involving lawyers at all is a wise move. That's just opening a Pandora's box you really don't want to touch.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Rovam on 2007 January 04, 12:17:22 Would the Fair Use Act cover non-paysites anyway, seeing as they aren't making money? I have no idea myself (law babble makes my head spin), but someone else might know.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Pescado on 2007 January 04, 12:18:10 I wouldn't know. You want to pay a lawyer to fight it out and see? Like I said, can of worms best left unopened.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: ... on 2007 January 04, 12:24:34 Bethgael covered quite a lot in this thread: Shutting down some paysites - thoughts and re fair use. (http://phorum.mustnotbenamed.com/viewtopic.php?p=12173) She sounds like the person to ask around here about it.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: The ISZ on 2007 January 04, 14:44:15 Quote from: "teadrinker" The trouble with this approach is won't it make trouble for other people besides just paysites? I mean it could end up cutting off our noses to spite our faces. It can't only be paysite creators who want to occasionally sneak in a branded item. That is not advisable for anyone to do. I would never put a brand name on something like that in the first place. That is just common sense in my opinion. No one should create anything with logo's and brand names on them for The Sims or any other game. Folks should know better than that. I don't see an issue here. The guy I contacted may do nothing and kick it to the curb, who knows. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: tIIsuggas on 2007 January 04, 15:14:54 What's wrong with making up your very own exclusive brand in the first place.
For some reason well before I got into these debates, I made content, and made up my own brand name. It just didn't sit right with me to copy a famous logo. This is something I instilled into my son also, he made his own brand too. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2007 January 04, 16:11:10 Well as long as people don't lose sight of *why* we're anti paysite. Freedom to create whatever free content we like is an enjoyable thing, I am not sure I want someone moralising with me if I harmlessly make a BurgerKing sign to share with my online friends. Though I am beginning to suspect in some cases there is a personal agenda against individual pay-content creators that is in danger of becoming more important than the general principle.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: calalily on 2007 January 04, 16:29:49 Well, here's something that should get Exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) in trouble - Enayla's skin is uploaded to his site, and her terms of use explicitly state that that is not allowed.
Here is the link for http://www.furiae.com/images2/enayla.txt her terms of use. I tried emailing her through her furiae site, but I don't know if that actually goes to her. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: ... on 2007 January 04, 17:12:18 Quote from: "calalily" Well, here's something that should get Exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) in trouble - Enayla's skin is uploaded to his site, and her terms of use explicitly state that that is not allowed. Here is the link for http://www.furiae.com/images2/enayla.txt her terms of use. I tried emailing her through her furiae site, but I don't know if that actually goes to her. Oh really now. I'm pretty sure that email will go directly to Enayla; I knew of her back when we were on the same online art gallery, and she did not hesitate to do what was necessary to stop thieves of her art (even to the extent of removing herself from the place until she could put art up somewhere better controlled). If Exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) did do a 'take it and run' thing, he's not going to like the response he'll likely get... Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: neriana on 2007 January 04, 17:59:04 So, Exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) is not only stealing from major corporations (about whom I really don't care), but from a talented artist who is a very nice part of the Sims community.
Exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) is a hypocritical, thieving bastard. I'm starting to think there aren't any paysite owners who aren't, but Exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) is leading the pack in disgustingness atm. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2007 January 04, 18:08:34 Well that's a different matter. I don't care who rips off Disney but we gotta look out for our own people. :D
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: stim on 2007 January 04, 20:13:26 Quote from: "teadrinker" The trouble with this approach is won't it make trouble for other people besides just paysites? I mean it could end up cutting off our noses to spite our faces. It can't only be paysite creators who want to occasionally sneak in a branded item. Large corporations usually don't care what is happening with their stuff if no one is making money. In fact, it is now very well known to marketing and PR departments in the entertainment industry that taking away fans' freebies costs money. Marvel has been burned, as has Star Trek. If they do care, they'll send a cease & desist letter as required by law before they can legally sue for infringement. It's up to the corporation then to make sure if the C&D has been complied with or not. In most cases, it's too much of a hassle for them to spend the time on stuff that isn't exchanging monies. The only real instance I've ever heard of in this community is when Muffy at TSR had to change her username and (mayber) her avatar. And they only went after her because members of this community were starting to associate the name Muffy for her, and not the character franchise. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2007 January 04, 20:16:13 Miffy, wasn't it? :D
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: The ISZ on 2007 January 04, 20:58:15 Quote from: "teadrinker" Well as long as people don't lose sight of *why* we're anti paysite. Freedom to create whatever free content we like is an enjoyable thing, I am not sure I want someone moralising with me if I harmlessly make a BurgerKing sign to share with my online friends. Though I am beginning to suspect in some cases there is a personal agenda against individual pay-content creators that is in danger of becoming more important than the general principle. You don't want someone moralizing with you. That's kind of funny. Most of the issues people have brought up for being against pay sites are moral based. If EA felt what they were doing was illegal they would pursue it. So take out the legal issues and what you are left with is what people think is morally wrong. Besides, I could care less what happens to anyone if they violate a companies copyright by using it. Not my problem. Use some common sense and just because it would be free content doesn't mean it isn't still a copyright infringement. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2007 January 04, 21:15:22 So you're not using the booty either?
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: bethgael on 2007 January 04, 22:58:49 Quote from: "Flonne" Would the Fair Use Act cover non-paysites anyway, seeing as they aren't making money? I have no idea myself (law babble makes my head spin), but someone else might know. Legally, yes, if it is only to a certain point (eg, a free site could have one or 2 items in a hundred with Disney images but a whole site devoted to Disney would be in trouble and is not "fair use" but exploitation of another's copyright, even if free). In practice, often not. eg, Disney sends out "cease and desist" to all copyright violations they are aware of (and I criticise this practice, where they knock off creativity in people who aren't making money while applauding it where people charge for using their stuff). People get scared of "cease and desist" orders and so pull their stuff without checking to see if their use is covered by "fair use" first. It comes down to who can pay the best lawyers. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: lordrichter on 2007 January 04, 23:32:11 Quote from: "bethgael" In practice, often not. eg, Disney sends out "cease and desist" to all copyright violations they are aware of (and I criticise this practice, where they knock off creativity in people who aren't making money while applauding it where people charge for using their stuff). People get scared of "cease and desist" orders and so pull their stuff without checking to see if their use is covered by "fair use" first. So, what do you think Disney would do if the site refused to comply with the cease and desist? Somehow, I don't see Disney filing a lawsuit. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: The ISZ on 2007 January 04, 23:54:28 Quote from: "teadrinker" So you're not using the booty either? Who me? Of course I am. I never said I wasn't. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 05, 04:06:39 Hmm hope EA and Disney friends, Diisney might like sims, and might think about a collaboration on a stuff pak. Never know.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: bethgael on 2007 January 05, 04:35:27 Quote from: "lordrichter" Quote from: "bethgael" In practice, often not. eg, Disney sends out "cease and desist" to all copyright violations they are aware of (and I criticise this practice, where they knock off creativity in people who aren't making money while applauding it where people charge for using their stuff). People get scared of "cease and desist" orders and so pull their stuff without checking to see if their use is covered by "fair use" first. So, what do you think Disney would do if the site refused to comply with the cease and desist? Somehow, I don't see Disney filing a lawsuit. Possibly not (although with Disney you never know; they've sued for less and like to set legal precedents all over the joint), but they would go to a site's server and send them legal notices instead. The server company would comply, because they do have funds that they could lose. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: tinkrfreakenbell on 2007 January 05, 14:00:30 I remember the whole comic book heros thing from Sim 1 days, and like it was stated, they weren't even a paysite. I remember too when BunnyWuffles had to change her site layout, name and avatar because her previous icon was some sort of trademarked thing, can't remember what it was. She did the greatest architectural items for the Sims 1.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: jesserocket on 2007 January 05, 16:26:43 I miss BunnyWuffles so much...my favourite Sims 1 houseI ever built was made using her Maxis Matching Banana Brick set...*nostalgic sigh*
And Soup Parrot, I hope to hell a Disney stuff pack never happens...>.< Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2007 January 05, 16:57:17 We could definitely do with her roof sections! The game roofs are hopeless :x
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: redisenchanted on 2007 January 05, 17:14:40 I've often missed her build items in TS2. :(
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 05, 17:17:57 I visited Bennys, and (who did all the plant stuff), and then Sim Interior, and Laura Ts. Those were the days. I gave those games to my nephew, almost reordered the deluxe set.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: jesserocket on 2007 January 05, 17:28:01 Quote from: "Soup Parrot" I visited Bennys, and (who did all the plant stuff), and then Sim Interior, and Laura Ts. Those were the days. I gave those games to my nephew, almost reordered the deluxe set. Persimmon Grove. *nods* Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: redisenchanted on 2007 January 05, 17:46:20 Quote from: "jesserocket" Quote from: "Soup Parrot" I visited Bennys, and (who did all the plant stuff), and then Sim Interior, and Laura Ts. Those were the days. I gave those games to my nephew, almost reordered the deluxe set. Persimmon Grove. *nods* Oooh! I so miss his/her things. Some of the Artistic Habitats stuff in the booty is similiar, but it's not the same. :cry: Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: calalily on 2007 January 05, 20:10:49 Oh - Persimmon Grove and Bunny Wuffles - I loved those sites. Even downloaded every single thing on 56K dialup - now that's devotion.
I had chickens and pheasants, and the gazebos, and the railway station - ahhh. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Captain Flint on 2007 January 05, 21:46:24 Persimmon Grove's "homepage" can still be found here http://meanreds.com/persimmongrove/
I still use some of her creations when i play the sims BunnyWuffles forum information can be found here http://sas.planetthesims.gamespy.com/bwsost/bwsost.htm she can still be found at TSR as of this date as well, she has been there since 2000 and her last post was December 21st, 2006 http://forums.thesimsresource.com/member.php?find=lastposter&t=321368 Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: jesserocket on 2007 January 05, 22:04:45 Nothing for TS2 there though, and therin lies the sadness...:(
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: calalily on 2007 January 06, 11:00:29 I was still downloading their stuff right up to the time that I started Sims 2 - but I don't get to play 2 much, let alone 1. I got the washer and dryer that Bunny Wuffles released later.
I do so wish that they would create for ts2 - we need more verdant greenery - such as they did - and more grand houses and serious projects with 50,000 peices of cc to put them together :shock: - weird huh? Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: LesserOr on 2007 January 06, 11:44:20 Echoing on the issue of Fair Use, that you can, but you better be ready to pull it down as soon as they complain.
Adding: Sometimes people put up content and think it's Fair Use because their site is free...but they have banner ads. Or a bandwidth tip-jar. Any lawyer worth their salt will point this up as making money off the file. People came to the site to download, ergo their copyright is being illegally sold via the pageviews. They could also claim that you're hurting their negotiation possibilities as a sponsored object in the game (Alienware computer, etc.) After all, why should they pay/get paid to put their content in the game if the community downloads the same for free. And if they did sue after you ignored their C&D, they don't have to win- they just have to make your life hell, and it'll serve as a warning to others. Look how well it's worked for Disney, that people speak of their legal department in fear and awe. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: yamikuronue on 2007 January 08, 22:54:15 Quote from: "LesserOr" Echoing on the issue of Fair Use, that you can, but you better be ready to pull it down as soon as they complain. Adding: Sometimes people put up content and think it's Fair Use because their site is free...but they have banner ads. Or a bandwidth tip-jar. Any lawyer worth their salt will point this up as making money off the file. People came to the site to download, ergo their copyright is being illegally sold via the pageviews. They could also claim that you're hurting their negotiation possibilities as a sponsored object in the game (Alienware computer, etc.) After all, why should they pay/get paid to put their content in the game if the community downloads the same for free. And if they did sue after you ignored their C&D, they don't have to win- they just have to make your life hell, and it'll serve as a warning to others. Look how well it's worked for Disney, that people speak of their legal department in fear and awe. so have them put it here. Ad-free! Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: karu on 2007 January 09, 00:21:43 some of the old sims1 stuff is being recreated by birgit at junipersun forum and you can find it in the muse cafe section
http://junipersun.planetthesims.gamespy.com/forum/index.php Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: cakewalk on 2007 January 09, 18:16:55 Great! :D I go to install The Sims 2 in my computer, It must be great to have those items for this game version too! :D
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: redisenchanted on 2007 January 09, 18:31:19 Quote from: "karu" some of the old sims1 stuff is being recreated by birgit at junipersun forum and you can find it in the muse cafe section http://junipersun.planetthesims.gamespy.com/forum/index.php Thanks so much for the link! Er I mean AAARRR! Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2007 January 10, 21:40:28 Sorry to drag the thread back on topic and all but
EXNEM HAS A HARD TIME FINDING REAL FRIENDS :roll: Oh and he is turning into some wannabe TSR encouraging people to create for the subscriber area and is making enough money to throw cash back at them! http://www.exnemsims.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1267 Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: FreakyBooty on 2007 January 11, 01:14:47 Quote from: "PirateBooty" Sorry to drag the thread back on topic and all but EXNEM HAS A HARD TIME FINDING REAL FRIENDS :roll: Oh and he is turning into some wannabe TSR encouraging people to create for the subscriber area and is making enough money to throw cash back at them! http://www.exnemsims.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1267 Well, it would be hard finding & keeping friends with an attitude of "Screw you guys, I'm going home" So basically, he only wants submissions that are fantabulous, so that he can say, see this "insert fantabulous item here"? Well it was SO good, that we felt the creator deserved Cold Hard Cash and therefore, if you want this fantabulous goodness, you must pay US your Cold Hard Cash .... otherwise, no cookies for you :P Not to mention bragging rights, which I have no doubt would be employed. We have this awesome thing here, and here only! Want it, come and get it. Oh, and bring your wallet. Thanks, but no thanks. Ickyness surrounds that place. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: neriana on 2007 January 11, 01:44:43 Exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem): people don't want to be your "friends" because you demand they pay you for the privilege.
Now, I consider the pizza guy near my workplace to be a "friend" of sorts. I'm friendish with a few customers. But your customers are not generally going to be your OMG REAL FRIENDS. You have a business arrangement with them. Drop the poor-little me facade, you hypocritical jackass, and learn some customer service skills if you insist on running a business. I know he probably won't see it, but I had to get that off my chest. I have to deal with customers face-to-face every day, blaming me for things that are in no way my fault or under my control, and sure I'll bitch about that, but not to the customers themselves! Gods, Exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) is an ass. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Jysudo on 2007 January 11, 03:45:18 Wow...a $100 buck tip ! How many will bite the bait, I wonder? But if you create that many meshes, you would be made an FA in TSR by then and receive a max of $300...
And another thing is, for clothing upload to be counted, they must be 6 in a pack?!WTF? Do they think clothes are THAT easy to made? :evil: Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: LesserOr on 2007 January 11, 04:20:10 How amazingly dickish. He wants his fans to create more content than he's done over the life of the site, at higher standards than he's upheld.
If they make it to 25 (not counting all the textures they'll have to make for it to count as one upload), then he'll "reward" them for stocking his shelves. Asshole. Quote from: "Jysudo" Wow...a $100 buck tip ! How many will bite the bait, I wonder? But if you create that many meshes, you would be made an FA in TSR by then and receive a max of $300... Considering how few responses are in that thread, probably not many. My prediction: One or two of the most favored forum pets will get their payout. The rest either won't make it to 25 from burnout, or will have a lot of their stuff disqualified for various "quality" transgressions. Quote from: "Jysudo" And another thing is, for clothing upload to be counted, they must be 6 in a pack?!WTF? Do they think clothes are THAT easy to made? :evil: 6 textures for one mesh. If all you do is flood-fill one texture in 6 different colors, that's not hard. Taken outside the situation, that's not a bad policy- how many people make clothing meshes and only provide one or two recolors for them? Only counting it as one upload is shitty, though. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2007 January 11, 05:39:05 Yeah I'm sure flyingpigeon will get his payout. He is after all the biggest asskisser of LyricLee (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) and exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) - his tongue is brown!
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Marhis on 2007 January 11, 06:15:18 Perhaps it's because I'm italian, but every time I see the word "friend" in such a greasy statement, I think of mafia and it makes me puke. :|
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: LesserOr on 2007 January 11, 06:53:14 To me, it seems more like a used car salesman's "friend".
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Captain Flint on 2007 January 11, 07:51:02 Quote from: "LesserOr" How amazingly dickish. He wants his fans to create more content than he's done over the life of the site, at higher standards than he's upheld. If they make it to 25 (not counting all the textures they'll have to make for it to count as one upload), then he'll "reward" them for stocking his shelves. Asshole. Starting to sound just like Tsr isn't he? maybe thats why he is there? figures he could run it just like Tsr and get some payout. Quote from: "PirateBooty" Yeah I'm sure flyingpigeon will get his payout. He is after all the biggest asskisser of LyricLee (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) and exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) - his tongue is brown! Are you kidding? he has his head so far up their asses he is kissing tonsils Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Violet Tonks on 2007 January 11, 10:31:28 Reckon the infamous crashing dress top mesh is gonna make a miraculous reappearance anytime soon? :D
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Pescado on 2007 January 11, 11:02:49 Quote from: "Marhis" Perhaps it's because I'm italian, but every time I see the word "friend" in such a greasy statement, I think of mafia and it makes me puke. :| That's the impression I got also, although puking is not the corresponding reaction. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Quorneater on 2007 January 11, 12:48:00 Maybe he's hoping to *be* bought by TSR for a quick buck.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: lordrichter on 2007 January 11, 12:58:42 My impression of TSR is that they are more interested in bringing in money than paying it out, so I have to wonder how 'profitable' it is to be bought out by TSR.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: jesserocket on 2007 January 11, 13:05:02 Quote from: "lordrichter" My impression of TSR is that they are more interested in bringing in money than paying it out, so I have to wonder how 'profitable' it is to be bought out by TSR. Getting rid of like-ish competition, I would guess... Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 11, 14:38:38 Well if someone offered me $300 for my site (if I was a creator) I'd laugh at em, thats awful cheap for them to have exclusive rights to all my content (plus I'd want my stuff to be kept free dl). I wonder how many have turned down TSR down? Can yu imagine if TSR went over to Exnem, Simconnection, Rose, or Peggy and only offered to buy their cash cow for $300, they wouldn't get anywhere. Surprised they havent tried to get Reflex or Vita Sims or 4esf yet to join em.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: torque on 2007 January 11, 14:40:36 Quote from: "Soup Parrot" Well if someone offered me $300 for my site (if I was a creator) I'd laugh at em, thats awful cheap for them to have exclusive rights to all my content (plus I'd want my stuff to be kept free dl). I wonder how many have turned down TSR down? Can yu imagine if TSR went over to Exnem, Simconnection, Rose, or Peggy and only offered to buy their cash cow for $300, they wouldn't get anywhere. Surprised they havent tried to get Reflex or Vita Sims or 4esf yet to join em. Who knows, maybe they have? But they turned them down. Exnem can only dream about being hired by TSR. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2007 January 11, 19:28:29 Quote from: "Captain Flint" Quote from: "PirateBooty" Yeah I'm sure flyingpigeon will get his payout. He is after all the biggest asskisser of LyricLee (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) and exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem) - his tongue is brown! Are you kidding? he has his head so far up their asses he is kissing tonsils Ahh true, I guess I underestimated how well his tongue knows the insides of exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem/) Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: lordrichter on 2007 January 11, 22:56:02 Now I feel the need to puke.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Violet Tonks on 2007 January 11, 23:27:19 Quote from: "Soup Parrot" Well if someone offered me $300 for my site (if I was a creator) I'd laugh at em, thats awful cheap for them to have exclusive rights to all my content (plus I'd want my stuff to be kept free dl). I wonder how many have turned down TSR down? Can yu imagine if TSR went over to Exnem, Simconnection, Rose, or Peggy and only offered to buy their cash cow for $300, they wouldn't get anywhere. Surprised they havent tried to get Reflex or Vita Sims or 4esf yet to join em. I seem to remember that Reflex was a FA a fair while back... Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: angelus on 2007 January 12, 00:42:01 I just can't believe what hardasses the Ex crew is. To count towards one's whole weeks worth of free access the poor creator must have 25 uploads with 4 skintones counting as one upload, 6 recols of a mesh counting as one upload, etc. Hey dummies - make stuff for my site so I can make money and I'll give you member access for a whopping 7 days. That's some nerve. The sad thing is that people will be slobbering to get their stuff accepted (see the evils of TSR thinking at work). Aaarrrggh!
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: bethgael on 2007 January 12, 01:22:06 Quote from: "Pescado" Quote from: "Marhis" Perhaps it's because I'm italian, but every time I see the word "friend" in such a greasy statement, I think of mafia and it makes me puke. :| That's the impression I got also, although puking is not the corresponding reaction. *snickers* I shouldn't ask, I suppose. ;) I keep getting images of Exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem/) and those pooh bear dolls being shot down a la Gangs of New York. Yeah. Thanks for that. I'm sure I wasn't quite that mentally disturbed before I started visiting this site. :lol: Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: lordrichter on 2007 January 12, 01:36:22 Quote from: "sugapeach at exnemsims.com" I agree that there needs to be guidelines/ terms in place for the items and that they shouldn't be posted elsewhere for free as that would be unfair to donators. I'm thinking if someone made a set and offered an item from the set for free elsewhere that would be different, people would have to donate to get the rest of the stuff. Sigh. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Doursim on 2007 January 12, 01:43:49 I can't read that. what did she say?
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: LesserOr on 2007 January 12, 05:15:27 TS;DR version:
The 25 meshes shouldn't be posted elsewhere/for free because that would be unfair to donators. But it would be a good idea to put just the textures up on other sites, because then people would have to donate to get the mesh. TSR logic, IN ACTION! Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: lordrichter on 2007 January 12, 12:30:12 What impressed me the most about that is that she says it is unfair to the people who donate but really she means that it is unfair to the people collecting the donations.
People are always paying more than they have to for stuff. That is part of how the system works. Most of the time, they don't even notice it. When they do, and it is important, it is called a lesson learned. Hell, some people do it on purpose. She obviously thinks that creating Sims content is a commercial enterprise and she talks like a paysite owner. It makes me wonder if she is just an avid Kool-aid drinker or if she is a plant to counter the other comment in there. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Steerpike on 2007 January 12, 16:32:34 Exnem is a 'Select Artist' at TSR. I did not know this till today.
His blog is kind of sickening to read, he can asskiss with the best of 'em. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: PirateBooty on 2007 January 13, 04:48:43 exnem (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem/) makes me ill. Do select artists get paid on TSR (http://tsr.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/tsr/) or just featured artists? I'm sure he'll be featured soon enough, what with TSR (http://tsr.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/tsr/) growing the collective as rabidly as they have been. Surely he'll be able to augment his income from exnemsims (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/exnem/) soon enough.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: BlueSoup on 2007 January 13, 05:06:42 Select Artists do not get paid. They get shit all. Still, it's the first step into becoming an FA. Unless he were to close down his site and work as an FA directly.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Surelyfunke on 2007 January 13, 05:09:19 Select Artists don't get paid, only Featured and Retired Artists. H.Lin, an SA, is becoming FA soon though, so I reckon SAs could be considered a pool of potential FAs?
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: LesserOr on 2007 January 13, 08:22:13 Quote from: "Surelyfunke" Select Artists don't get paid, only Featured and Retired Artists. I didn't realize RAs got paid. Though I'd bet that's "selective", depending on how they retired. Quote from: "Surelyfunke" so I reckon SAs could be considered a pool of potential FAs? Yes- an SA is someone who worked their way up through the community (meaning they have a high download count). Before, becoming an FA was just the next tier. Now with this headhunting and paid work bullshit, being an SA means one of three things: 1. They're on their way to becoming an FA, with more downloads / a higher DL count. 2. They refused the invitation to be FAs (various reasons.) 3. They have a lot of downloads / high DL count, but aren't really good enough for TSR to pay. The headhunted ones go directly to FA. You can imagine how happy this makes the SAs. EDIT: rereading, I now realize that was rhetorical. Oh well. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Surelyfunke on 2007 January 13, 10:22:19 Meh. I should clarify. RAs got paid as FAs, but I don't know if they still receive cash as RAs. Their FILES are still pay though, so TSR is effectively making money off them even after they stop creating for the site. Sorry for the confusion.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: BlackPearl on 2007 January 20, 22:17:22 Quote from: "Pescado" Quote from: "PirateBooty" The food code he stole was something to make the food not rot That's not code! That's not-code! You can't steal code REMOVAL. lol poor fucker thot u could steal that? rofl Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 20, 22:57:38 I just cant see someone like Exnem giving up his own "operation" to be lacky to TSR while they get rich, he would get peanuts compared to what he's getting now. His food I think just the cookies were put there just as advertisements. Its going to be interesting Insim and MTS2 change policies, he may be forced to submit more food over there to get subscribers. He's not dumb, he doesnt want to be a FA he got his own site, he wants to be big like TSR get all the money for himself. Anywhoo, I think the quality over at TSR except for a couple artists is wavering. So will they promote next to FA? Beosboy?
Ms. Barrows? Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: RedLove on 2007 January 20, 23:00:28 It seems to me everytime they make some one an FA their work starts to suffer :shock:
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 21, 03:19:12 Your right Red. Or it seems they stretch the FA releases out more, and you end up with more free stuff. Morale over there is suffering I think.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: BlueSoup on 2007 January 21, 03:35:57 Quote from: "RedLove" It seems to me everytime they make some one an FA their work starts to suffer :shock: It's because they have output requirements. They are required to submit so much per whatever (not sure what the requirements are, I just know they exist). Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: RedLove on 2007 January 21, 04:02:01 Quote from: "Soup Parrot" Your right Red. Or it seems they stretch the FA releases out more, and you end up with more free stuff. Morale over there is suffering I think. Can I have a cookie? :roll: Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: LesserOr on 2007 January 21, 04:16:13 It's not just whatever static requirement. In order to keep making money, they need to keep racking up downloads every month. There's only so many members, and the turnover can't be that high.
The FAs with a large library of files can get away with just the required minimum, but the others will need to keep pumping out content. If you divy up their current download counts, most of them never see the maximum per month. (http://xs311.xs.to/xs311/07030/suckers.jpg) Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 21, 04:21:01 I feel sorry for em. I worked a job kind of like that in a corporate call center, you had all these stats they required you to meet, which was hard, its hard to explain. But its like being an hamster on the wheel, seems to be no end till your just too tired anymore to keep it going. Hence, the burnout theory.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: RedLove on 2007 January 21, 04:22:38 Quote from: "Soup Parrot" I feel sorry for em. I worked a job kind of like that in a corporate call center, you had all these stats they required you to meet, which was hard, its hard to explain. But its like being an hamster on the wheel, seems to be no end till your just too tired anymore to keep it going. Hence, the burnout theory. Well atleast the hamster has the sense to get off the wheel and eat once and a while. The artist keep going until they die =] (run out of ideas or get tired of getting passed over instead of speaking up) Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: LesserOr on 2007 January 21, 05:05:32 There's also the factor of pride. How humiliating would it be to be demoted unless you're retiring? Especially if you're someone who closed down your own site and/or thought this would be a money tree.
I feel sorry for the ones who became FAs because it meant something to them, because they wanted to make nice things for the community. The ones who went over out of greed are getting exactly what they deserve. It's just a shame that they're all lining TSR's pockets in the meantime. Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 21, 05:14:21 well we all live and learn sometimes the hard way. :roll:
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: mel on 2007 January 21, 05:57:43 I haven't read the whole thread, but now it's my turn to post and laugh at exnem.
Exnem obviously makes stuff for the game for money, and uses modthesims2 as a marketing ploy, since he knows mts2 is way more popular than his site. It doesn't surprise me with his last stunt. :roll: And then he pulls himself through the dirt even more by declaring other innocent players to make for genuine fun and for the community are thefts, when he himself is one by having a paysite. :evil: Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: zatanna on 2007 January 21, 06:13:24 I agree!
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: torque on 2007 January 21, 11:52:02 Quote from: "BlueSoup" It's because they have output requirements. They are required to submit so much per whatever (not sure what the requirements are, I just know they exist). S2Sisters submit new stuff EVERY FRICKING DAY!!! Don't they have a life? How can they put out something new every day? Feels like they're doing this 25/8. Sad. It's very sad. :? Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: tIIsuggas on 2007 January 21, 12:20:00 I wish I had time to create like that, too busy keeping up with the various forums.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: Soup Parrot on 2007 January 21, 12:36:34 Well the last 2 outfits are horrible they put out. They photoshop some of em thats how they manage. I think their quality has went down. I wasnt that crazy about the Turtle Room Set. At this rate their going to burn out though.
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: jesserocket on 2007 January 21, 15:59:56 I always found S2S' stuff a bit hit and miss, some of it, I found to be really excellent quality, others, rather poor. And I totally see what you mean about their last few bits...in the preview thumbnaily pics, they look alright, but when you actually take a look at them...urgh, they're dreadful...:?
Title: Exnem Leaves (Again) with Zero Apples Post by: torque on 2007 January 21, 17:21:33 All of their stuff looks shit because of my graphics card isn't top notch and doesn't support the shiny photoshopped outfits. So all the outfits look like washed cardboard. :roll:
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