PMBD

I am feeling rageful right now.  I can't believe how much of an asshole Thomas is, and to delete all the comments about these stupid changes that are less than stellar is such a low move.

That site is going downhill superfast and I can't wait for the implosion.  I hope the good FA's (Cyclonesue, Cashcraft) get out now and get their own websites for free.

Hell, you know what?  For both of those artists, if they read this, I will host a free website for you for one year if you leave TSR and the festering stinkhole it's become.

Edit:  Actually, any artist at TSR is welcome to approach me about potentially hosting them for one year (or helping out with hosting).  I'll look at your work and if I like it, I'll do it. :)

Just had to get that off my chest.

Oh, netseeker (http://www.thesimsresource.com/profiles/245038/) apparently feels the same way:

Thomas seems to live in his own little world, where only what he thinks and feels matters. He's the main reason TSR sucks, and will continue to keep sucking more and more.

Why in the hell do they have the BIGGEST ASSHOLE on the board interacting with people?! He annoys and alienates everyone who isn't on his payroll, and a lot of people who ARE on his payroll (and who leave because of that.)

And why do they keep getting more tyrannical with the people who are still visiting the site? Don't they get it?! How is alienating the remaining people who haven't wised up yet a good business move?

Oh right, they have a pseudo-businessman/petty thug in charge. Who doesn't even play the damn game.  There is something seriously wrong with the two biggest fansites being adminned by men who don't even play the game.

I wish people who have had their subs renewed without permission and/or banned without refunds would also complain to Maxis/EA in addition to Paypal. With enough complaints they'd do something, even if it was just ceasing to list them on the official site news, which can seem to be an endorsement. The official site certainly shouldn't endorse a site which bans based on hearsay and shares the private information of paying members.

That site would be awesome to destroy, but evern better to watch them crumble into obscurity themselves.

:D  iam glad  i got the TSR items off the booty serves em right

I'm glad I never got involved with TSR.  :x

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I just wanted to but my two cents in on this new rating system. I think it's a wonderful idea. I have always disliked the number system, so this is a great difference!!!! I even like the cup system. I mean sure there are bugs to iron out, but in general this should stop the rate hating and all the bad feelings that have become so clear as of late. Personally I never blamed you folks at TSR.

So keep up the great work, and I'll keep creating things!
From the mind of the sick and twisted to your sims home. :devil:




eww that makes me wanna puke talk about sucking up

wahooooooooooooooooo!

Wheeeeee!

It never fails, any site that gets taken over by businesspeople goes down the tubes fast.

These people are only concerned with making money and not with making people happy, they don't seem to understand that if they don't make people happy eventually they will not be making anymore money.

tis rather sad, but predictable.

I have a sub at TSR *ducks*

I really enjoy having access to things by great creators like Cashcraft, NoFrills, Cyclonesue, Windkeeper, etc, etc, etc. There's a lot of shit there, but if you find a few artists you like I think it's worth it... :O

I guess the key for me is to not get involved at all with people there. I sweep in every couple of days, download what I like, make a few nice comments and ratings, and fly back out. I don't even know who Thomas is (but I think I have an ok idea from the posts above).

I would love to see TSR go free, but I don't think it's going to happen. The FA's all seem to be so loyal to TSR, so they must be doing something right, right?

I personally have never had any reason to be unhappy with TSR in the year or so I have sub'd there.

Netseeker's comments were deleted allright and not only from the news thread but also from her profile. She is always outspoken against TSR and was offered a perma-ban. Thomas thinks her stuff to be shit. Cutting her off is no sweat off his back.  From her profile before she had listed a rant about TSR hiring offsite artists to become FAs while ignoring the loyal TSR submitters that have been uploading creations since the start. He removed the original type to prevent people from reading the truth. The bastard is a dick and greedy as a person can get.

I download, I don't rate or thank or comment.

Stop subbing. TSR is evil and must be destroyed (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/tsr/).

Aside from crappy, evil, etc., TSR is also a damn weirdly designed site, apparently.  I commented yesterday (I think) in the "I Smell Bullshit" thread on the amount of FA content that was free.  But everything isn't as it first appears.

If I go to their front page now and use the filter to find downloads that are ONLY by FA's and are free, it finds 20 files.

However, if I go to http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/TSR_Archive/downloads/sims2/ I find lots of downloads that are free, and are by FA's.  The difference is that they are credited to the artist "TSR_Archive," instead of their actual creators.  So of course the filter didn't find them when looking for FA's.  

What's up with this?  I guess it can just be a way to make sure the FA's don't make any money for their items that are currently free, maybe. I only found this "archive" by accident though--I might be blind and simply overlooking it but I don't see any link to this archive of stuff at all from the front page.  It might be some new thing they are in the middle of implementing or something but it seemed kind of shady to me.

 :roll:

if you look at netseekers profile now, everything is gone, except the creations....how nice of them!

and the archive is umm like right beneath the menu lol look right under the search bar and you'll see SIMS2 252637 Total Sims 2 Files 188707 Free Sims 2 Files SHOW ARCHIVE <<<click that :)

also they just promoted Madisim (aka Madison) to FA status even though he primarily makes lots (their new system is anti-lot/wall makers). God he should have been an FA ages ago.

Of course this brings me back to my favourite theme - stop all these conglomerate sites then you'll stop all these huge costs and the need for subscriptions.

Let people who can afford $5 a month have their own sites (they can press the "set up a forum" button on their cpanel if they can't write html pages).   Let those who can't afford $5 a month upload to The Exchange, Yahoo groups, Myspace or their small free space that nearly everyone gets with their ISP connection service.

Or they can use one of the email file sharing systems such as POBS at N99 or just generally post a picture somewhere, mail to the first applicant and ask that person to share.

WE DON'T NEED PAYSITES!  There is nothing a paysite brings us we couldn't achieve for free.

Pssh. Huge costs? Conglomerate sites? We've conglomerated tons of sites here now. There are no huge costs. Claims of "huge costs" are nothing moe than lies and propaganda created by the infidel paysite dogs.

What, no tales of how you have to beg on the street corner to keep this site going?  And the terrible hardship of how your kids and your dog are starving due to the huge bandwidth?  And the server costs are going to force you to live in your car?  I am shocked!  :D  :D  :D

TSR is kind of like the Walmart of TS2, except the quality/value roles between wallyworld and the homegrown stores are reversed.  Doesn't really make sense.

I had a site that I paid for a while back, and it cost $100 a year to keep, the domain name was $15.  I don't even KNOW how much bandwidth I had since I never came anywhere close to it.  Unless these people are just stupid (which begs to be argued) I won't believe that any of these sites really need to beg for donations.  If you're that strapped for cash there are plenty of free hosts.  And if you're REALLY that strapped then you need to get a job, not sit at home making shit for TS2.

So what are we smelling when MTS2 begs for donations because it costs them more than $1800/mo for bandwidth.... :roll:

It probably does cost them quite a bit.  And I don't begrudge Delphy getting a wage from it (if he does) as he does actually work actively on the site.  But anyway at least no one is excluded from enjoying the content because they can't afford to pay.

He only works actively on coding of the site, not actually monitoring or moderating it.  If he wanted to work on coding, he should get a job in that industry instead.

But no, Delphy, while deceitful and duplicitous, is not the most evil.  I used to donate there but I stopped when I found out about the secret board that was hosted to share my personal information and that LyricLee was given free reign to ban anyone who dared to speak against her or her hypocritical viewpoints.

Now that she's gone (ding-dong, the witch is dead), I may consider donating again, but really, only to get access to the faster server.

Anyone knows how the faster server works on the weekend, btw?

Actually I rarely download stuff (at all) so I don't think I have had a chance to judge that.  What I do wish is that I could have a fast server for posting!  I see a thread I can help with some info for or something and by the time it's uploaded to the thread, the info is about 2 months out of date :D

That's true, but donating to help someone so they don't have to pay $1800/mo out of their own pocket is quite different from donating so someone gets a wage. It doesn't violate the EA EULA, so it's not in the same camp as TSR or another actual paysite.

Kind of dishonest though, to borrow from Delphy: "morally wrong" though not  illegal.

Meh, I guess no one has to donate if they don't want to.

I got a TSR subscription when I first got Sims2, because everyone I asked said 'OMGgetTSRtheyaretehbest11!!1'.

So, being small and naive as I am, I did. Only to then discover I had paid money for a steaming pile of fail.

Never listen to other people.

I would love to see TSR implode upon itself. That fate would serve that site right.

I once long ago submitted some things to TSR (old crappy stuff but nonetheless). After learning more and more about this site I wanted to remove them but -unless I'm missing the obvious- I see no way to delete my own uploads. Kinda gives the message that he "owns" anything placed on that site, no?

I've talked to a couple of TSR creators in the past day that say they are unable to remove their content from the site.  It's most definitely a silent "I own you" statement.

Well... if memory serves, on the submission page, at the bottom, in a box, there is a disclaimer (and, uh, DISCLAIMER is spelled wrong too, like discaimer or something retardo) and in there it basically says TSR owns your shit and they can distribute it any way they so please.

I'd like to remove my shit from there as I'm working on my own site now. The recent changes have pushed me over the edge. I agree with netseeker. I'm surprised she's still on there and not dead by the T Mafia. Oh well, I don't have that much up there and I can put better stuff on my site. I still have a sub, but I think I'll be contacting PayPal about that soon enough.

Ok, I looked. Here's the shit at the bottom when you submit something:

Disclaimers & Important Information
Do not submit any files that are not your own creations. You should also be sure not to use other creator's bases for your own work without gaining their permission first, and properly crediting them. Any submitters sending work that is not rightfully their own may have all of their work removed from TSR and be banned from submitting in future.

By submitting files to us you are giving us (The Sims Resource) permission to host those files permanently and to be distributed via any media (electronic or physical). Files sent in a different format may not be used on the site due to the amount of work involved building previews and correcting errors. If you want your work featured here, please take the time to submit it properly.

 I have read and agree to the dislaimer

Even better, it's misspelled as DISLAIMER, like dis is laimer dan anyting.

I requested that TSR remove some of my uploads (8 measly pairs of eyes, for crying out loud).  They virtually showed me the finger.

The quicker that site is destroyed, the happier I will be.

Aha. Dis lamer indeed. I knew I wasn't crazy. I dunnow what ever posessed me to submit there. Guess I didn't think I'd ever feel strongly about removing my stuff. But it's the worst upload policy on a sims site I've ever seen...how basically people's own work becomes his when placed on TSR. Even EA/Maxis aka the rightful creators and owners of all Sims related things have the option for people to remove their creations from the exchange...but Mr. Thomas is above even Maxis of course.  :x

I agree. The sooner they get nuked the better.

It takes A LOT to get me riled and they've done an adequate job of it. I'm starting to get nasty now. Makes me want to dump all my CC. To hell with it. Well, I'd have to weed out the non-TSR things of course.

Try getting banned from TSR - if you're lucky it might even work. I know a creator managed to get her creations removed because Thomas banned her from TSR after accusing her of being a filesharer. He was of course tipped off from Rose in that super secret forum on MTS2.

So, put them up on your own site.  Or ask someone like Heleane if she would put them on her site.   Eye for an eye, finger for a finger.

Loophole!

Disclaimers & Important Information
Do not submit any files that are not your own creations. You should also be sure not to use other creator's bases for your own work without gaining their permission first, and properly crediting them. Any submitters sending work that is not rightfully their own may have all of their work removed from TSR and be banned from submitting in future.

By submitting files to us you are giving us (The Sims Resource) permission to host those files permanently and to be distributed via any media (electronic or physical). Files sent in a different format may not be used on the site due to the amount of work involved building previews and correcting errors. If you want your work featured here, please take the time to submit it properly.

Hey, we can get our shit off that way.  :lol: And did you notice the last part where it basically says "Don't be a stupidass or we won't put your shit up. I don't want to mess with stupidass shit."

If you can't take your stuff down, couldn't you sabotage it? Make overwriting files by the same name? Use the GUIDs over and over until everyone knows your stuff from there won't work? You could put a warning up on other sites to simmers telling them not to use your stuff there, make it avaible elsewhere? Steve would hear about it and get pissed that the files were bad and take them down? You think maybe?

Where there's a will there's a way.

What 'private info' is Delphy sharing? Stuff from former donaters? Or everyones IP and email? He can't sell email adresses can he?

So when did Thomas actually hop on board with TSR, at least, in the capacity he's in now? I pretty out of the loop for ages, so, stuff I have missed.

Well, his forum profile states Dec 2000 I believe, but what does that mean? I think he's been there awhile. Plotting... planning... conspiring.

netseeker2 has left the building!

'About Me: I'm dead. Gone. Outta here. Au Revoir, So Long. Goodbye.'


I have a sub there but after my two months is up I'm not going to give them any more money, heh.

I really don't get that.  They're shooting themselves in the foot more than anything by refusing to let people remove or even edit their own submissions.  Imagine how much lousy, low-rated crap that rarely if ever gets downloaded would vanish from their servers overnight if all the creators could get rid of their old, embarrassing items!  Sure, they'd be able to boast fewer items overall, but they'd also be able to kick their reputation for having a few nice items in an ocean of worthless crap...

It would also save them rather some money on BANDWIDTH AND HOSTING, I'm sure.

TSR is a giant steaming pile of shite.

Hey guys, in "the thread" it's recently been mentioned to allow creators to edit and/or remove their items. Thomas actually said they'd consider the edit option, but, get this, not the remove option. Then he stated we'll cover that in another thread.  :wink:

It'll be 'We can't allow creators to remove their stuff, they might try and do a runner with it, it's like, OUR STUFF NOW BITCH!'

That would actually be a law case worth to watch... either if TSR gained all rights due to that permission and/or if this permission is a rightful part of their TOS.

Pity that nobody will bring that affair to court, though.

Its nobody's stuff. Pescado shares it, Thomas charges for it. Once it is "set free" on the internet, kiss control goodbye.

That's more of a dodge, really, You just create a fictitious personage upon which your work is stolen from, and then complain, as this fictitious person, about your "theft". :P

Two great minds must think alike Pescado - I was just about to suggest this myself  :shock:

I was thinking the same thing, only you'd have to have somewhere that the stuff was stolen FROM.

Hmmm... It just occured to me that it may be hard to get all the dates lined up, ie. uploading them to another site/forum and making it appear that they'd been there all along. Is there any way to do that?

So, that person puts up a site containing your content, and claim they were the ones who originally made it. TSR's all like 'Dude, this person says you pinched their shit, which is odd, cos I never saw their site before',
And then you're all like 'Yeah, it's true, I did, they sent it all to me over AIM one time before they opened that site, cuz we was friends, and then I said it was mine, and they were all like 'YOU BITCH!' and we ain't friends no more but I'm gonna keep taking their stuff, innit...'
And then they're all like 'GTFO, THEIF!!'

Or perhaps a less retarded version of that dialogue.

*bows*

I dunno, that's pretty good dialogue jess.  :lol:  But TSR is PG-13 ya know so they'd keep it clean.

Perhaps...
"Pardon me miss, but it appears you have goods that do not rightfully belong to you on this site. This was brought to our attention by some lads over yonder hill that find you quite nice to look at but can't deny you are a petty thief. My apologies, but I must remove you and your contents from my site this instant."

And then say some Our Fathers and Hail Marys and you're good to go.  :wink:

Don't. Because TSR MUST BE DESTROYED!  (http://paysites.mustbedestroyed.org/booty/tsr/)

I nearly sprayed water all over my computer I was laughing so hard.

I have only two things over there and they can have them because I've done better. It's ashame that they have some whackjob in charge now. That site has gone to the hellhounds.

Ok, firstly is this Thomas guy a staff who is paid by TSR or what?

Secondly, TSR is quite civil about giving refunds. I asked for one and got it less than 24 hours later.

If I "click that" I see, simply, "the archive", which includes everythigng by everyone.

 What I'm talking about is the stuff that is currently listed as "Creator: TSR_Archive" rather than as the actual creators.  Basically, if you want to see what FA items are currently free, check out that "creator's" page (http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/TSR_Archive/)  rather than using the filter.  

It strikes me as shady because #1, they don't exactly tell you about it, and #2, if TSR can temporarily claim FA's work for a fictional creator, what's to stop them from permanently claiming anyone else's work under a fictional creator's tag?  

It would not surprise me if, instead of removing a banned user's items, they simply gave them a new creator name and let them get lost in the vast and smelly heap.  And after seeing the turn this thread has taken--that TSR claims ownership of everything uploaded to it, and that people can't remove their own uploads, it seems even more shady.

I believe Thomas *is* TSR.

The owner is Steve Bonham.   But it's someone else entirely has their names on the subscriptions receipt...

Hey, anyone know what happened to the FA Chrissie or Chrissy or whatever she is? Cause TSR says that there is no Chrissie or Chrissy. I'm going through the booty right now, so I wanna know if she had good stuff or not? Half of the FAs make shit.

Her names Chrissy6930 she's still a FA at TSR I like her stairs, but you will have to edit your scripts modular stairs file for custom stairs to work.

I see. Thanks!

:lol:  Thomas IS TSR. I'm sure he's just a good friend of Steve's and Steve doesn't have the business know-how to make it go, he just wants to review stuff and run through the chat room naked (that's what the last TSR newsletter claimed), so T probably has a certificate in wackoff and he gets to have ultimate power with the money. I'm sure he gives Steve a weekly allowance for lunch.

Um... I think the name on my receipts is Jan Isaacson? Something like that. I was curious as to who that was too. T's Mom?

Yeah, I may have 120 things up there but they can keep 'em. I've got gobs more not up there. I can do better if I ever care to create again. I'll throw them all up on my own site someday, when I become unemployed and can sit around all day creating for Sims2 like you so often read in the bios of FAs/SAs and such.

Just get some peggy stuff or something else clearly marked as someone else's from the booty and upload it as your own. It'll take all of 10 minutes for them to verify it's stolen if you use shit from a high-traffic site or shit with the creator's name on it (Carla Niven, anyone?), then they'll take down all your shit, right?

Vulzard? Is that you?  :wink:

no they have Jirka at tsr.

You know the guy that mad the glance models.

Surley it will be no time untill he is an FA and pay only.

I can see them using a tremedous amount of bandwith and a lot of traffic.

But...several SEVERAL thousand usd a month???? :shock:

And 90% of it is garbage with just a few decent creators,
Ridiculous or not if they got rid of most of the garbage tsr would be almost void.

I don't think anyone here was under the illusion that TSR was cheap to run, however, the amount that they charge, for a declining quality of service can be described as excessive at best.

Then perhaps they should be over here thanking pescado for saving them all that money and bandwidth.  :lol:

Well, good for them. Now they're all rich. Sure, it started out harmless but it's grown into a monster. I'm not going to feel sorry for them or their bandwidth issues, or their crap content issues, or their pissy attitude issues.

Fact is, Thomas treats everyone like shit unless you're one of the ass-kissing FAs that bring home the bacon.

You know what, TSR can go belly up if it's such a terrible life for them. Sheesh. Give it up already. Perhaps we do know what we're talking about and that is why this site exists. If they weren't making money and enjoying it why keep it up? Obviously 90% of their members don't matter squat to them. If it's so terrible, well, why are the forums down today because of a HUGE upgrade. Why bother? Thank be to Jesus they're doing that. I'm sure we're all going to see rainbows or twinkly stars on the site now. Shit, we might even be able to go on and beg for benes.

Sorry if we offended you but this site isn't exactly a love triangle for Thomas or any other pay site out there.

Gah!! At least then they'll be plundered and available here. What a black-hole void of destruction TSR is! They suck far beyond your average paysite suckage.

Ridiculous is trying to change the subject to skirt around the topic - TSR sucks, they are greedy, and they have no room to bring up ethics or legalities.  And no one is forcing TSR to incur bandwidth costs - there is an EA supported free Exchange.

Ridiculous is also various sites that shut down, claiming they don't have time for simming, and then you see they've become FAs at TSR - with brand spaking new items.  Why lie in the first place?  Why not just admit you want the money?

What sites/artists did that?  O.o

http://www.simsrubicon.com/

Sims2sisters as well.

I never go to TSR so I was just curious.  I do remember Drews posting about not having enough time or energy to devote to sims anymore.  But I was under the impression that the artists at sim sisters wern't making any excuses.

No you're right, they didn't. I thought you were talking about free sites that got offered more money at TSR and close down.

Whatever excuses the artists give as to why they shut down their sites...the one thing that is obvious is that Tom is hoping that the fans of the artist will go over to TSR to subscribe to get their stuff again. Classic equation for TSR. He'll see the site shut down or struggling with their webspace/bandwidth and make them an offer that can't be refused. Once accepted the artist will shut down their site to move to TSR where they will become an FA.  Won't be a shocker to see that Jirka becoming an FA soon either....

Yeah, this was being hinted around at in that thread too. The "little people" creators were starting to put T on the hot seat about why some people have become FAs and weren't even part of the site before that but other creators have been there for years pumping out really nice stuff and aren't FAs yet or even SAs.

Um, gosh, T didn't answer.

So then they went on to ask for criteria to become an SA/FA. Um, well, he didn't really answer that one either. Basically whoever the admin feels like bringing on as an FA. I think you're going to see more creators leave TSR. Nobody said life was fair, but that's just bullshit.

Boy, it sure has put a damper on my motivation to create, let alone share my stuff.

That just makes me sick. I mean, I know why I hate TSR, but this is an all new low. I had no idea Thomas was fucking over the "little people" like that. Way to shit all over the community that made your site what it is today, you asshole.  :evil:

LOL. Not to be nitpicky or anything, but Jan is a man's name in Scandinavia. It's pronounced "Yan" as opposed to J-forJesus. ;)

I can't believe that I paid a 6 month sub and spent the entire 6 months on probation and not allowed to post in the forums!  That's not really gonna have endeared me to them.

My "crime"?   I had to start a 2nd account as my first one had got messed up and I couldn't log into the forums.  After they tried and failed to fix it over a period of time I took matters into my own hands.  I felt entitled to take measures to get the access I had paid for.

Anyway 2nd accounts are apparently automatic probation.  They did finally fix me up, but effectively I was unable to use the service I was paying for fully for about one year.

Well, lucky you. He still has $8.95 mine held hostage because I failed to cancel via Paypal.

Ok, so learn to pronounce Js. Jan schman, maybe it's a brother or his dad. I could give a rip less.  :P

Here in the states JAN is like Jan Brady. Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!

I read the staff page once at TSR and I think I fell asleep.  :lol:

If it makes you feel any better, you can call him Jan Brady if you want! I don't really care.  :lol:

Ok.  :D  Jan Brady it is. Thomas, Thomas, Thomas!

Well Windkeeper who was the main reason I was subbing to TSR has lost my loyalty because she supports the idea of some content being pay-only.

I am these days meshing doors and windows, and while I would not set out to deliberately copy a particular mesh, if there happens to be any overlap between my work and hers I won't go out of my way to avoid the overlap like I do with other creators whose work I know.

I wrote a civil email explaining that their slow ass servers makes me call it quits. I had one month left on a six months sub and after they asked me to confirm if i indeed want to cancel (because they JUST FINISHED ANOTHER SERVER UPGRADE)...they cancel mine after I fucking say yes.

Are you on 2 months auto sub? If you are, maybe that's why you are still being screwed. As far as I know, they don't return recurring 2 months folks money.

Yeah it was the 2 month auto sub. I wonder how much money Thomas makes off people who forget to cancel their sub?

It seems I have found the best way to exact my revenge. In any case, I get immense pleasure out of it. Hehehe. I think I got more than my $8.95's worth! :lol:

I've got to remember to kill mine through PayPal. I've got the 2 month thing.

The forums are back up now. Y'all oughta read the rules and regulations now in the new TSR Forum Charter. Still going on about the PG-13 thing. Yep, and they'll still throw nude skins and thongs on the front page too. Right. PG-13. Gotcha.  :wink:

Awhile back (long time back), I was going through the freebies (which was like shifting through a ton of shit to find maybe 3 decent things), and I noticed this rather non pg 13 add in middle of the page, it was one of those *friendly* dating sites with a woman in bra and panties..

Oh yeah, how lovely and PG-13-ish. I know, you see so much crap on there that isn't PG-13 but they continue to tote around that label. We're PG-13, we're safe for your kids, come here where everything is clean and pure.

With the changes to the TSR forum, we now have to agree to the forum rules.  The following I do not agree with, so I will never be part of that forum.  Who gets to decide if a complaint is valid?  And, what would constitute as complaint material?



Excert from the new TSR forum rules.

That site is giving me more heebie jeebies every day.

Thats stupid, I don't agree with that either but I don't go there very often anyway

IMO, it's irresponsible and potentially dangerous.

Sounds really creepy.  Not sure declaring what they will do makes it above board.  Some contracts are deemed unbinding by their nature.

Hmm, what happens if you don't agree?

It seems to me that TSR misunderstood some other's similar disclaimers, exactly like Rose did with the chinese paypal's one.

In my country we use to say "Dio li fa e poi li accoppia" (they are made for each other) - literally "God made them and then mated them".

Yeah, there's other creepy crap in it too that I don't agree with. I don't think I'll be visiting the forums there anymore either.

Ack!!! :shock:

Thomas is certifiable! Or astoundingly stupid!! Why on earth does anyone want to be a part of his insane little dictatorship?

Ooh, ouch. Not that I've ever posted there, I think, even when I subbed there, but still...certainly not going to now.

Thats sheep for you, be led and ask no questions.

Ah, I'm clean. I cancelled my TSR sub through PayPal. As refreshing as a good poop.  :D

With the recent changes and those wacko forum rules and other garbage, I can't say I feel safe there any longer. It stinks of no-goodedness.

i dont know if its me but the new layout onTSR looks horrible on firefox things are overlapping

Looks fine on my firefox

Now, I had a site that costed me $51.00 a month. It wasn't a sims site, it was a site to hold my catalog stuff I was selling.  It gets costly especially when I was not working and my site wasn't making any money.  I had to eventually give it up. It was a struggle for me to keep up the cost.  I was in college at the time and was hopping to make some money to help pay the bills.  $51.00 a month is high when you don't have it to shell out every month.

Dragon

Even if, for them, it was $51 a month, with all of their subs.. they have plenty to shell out.

True, and with all the subs they get they don't need to charge such  high prices.  Site donations would be sufficient without holding cc hostage for the payment.

Dragon

I have been doing some crude calculations based on figures from the TSR site.

Since November 4 2006, Sims2Sisters have had a hair mesh file downloaded 8260 times.

If that number indicates 8260 individual subscribers, and if they have paid for 2 months sub only, in 40 days TSR have raked in at least 73,927 dollars (I am in uk, I don't have dollar sign on my keyboard).

That is a lot of money they are bringing in.  

Dragon

The only hard data I have seen is this financial statement from 2001 http://reports.huginonline.com/881971/110551.pdf and if I'm reading it correctly it shows that TSR made about $58,000.00 in the first three weeks of 2001.

I don't really know all of the financial background of TSR which used to be part of MGON International before they folded.  The only available stats I can find was when MGON was being financed by a venture capital company called Ledstiernan.  Ledstiernan is a public company and listed subscription rates and what not for 2001 - 2003 but I have no idea if that information is still accurate.

And it's all mostly in Swedish.  I speak money much more fluently than Swedish.

Ibibi AB (which is TSR:s legal name) claimed to have made a whopping 416,000 SEK (appr. 60,885$) during the whole of 2005...

You do the math.

You may or may not trust this information because the link I got the figures from doesn't work anymore (Lokaldelen (http://www.lokaldelen.se/ld/foretag/profil.do?advanced=true&catIDs=660019&page=2&pageSize=25&companyID=85143), a Swedish search site for companies, and a search for Ibibi AB no longer gives any results. TSR is for some reason registered in Sweden, don't know why, the taxes are very high here but they must have a helluva accountant...)

We discussed it on a Swedish forum a while ago so that's how I could get the figures now.

Good work. yeah with those kind of forums rules, i have to say it certainly sounds nazi. i never post in those forums there. too much sheep asking stupid questions. i only go there if i need answers to stupid questions  :roll:

I'm not too sure what is happening with TSR (besides being a sucky paysite), but I'm happy I never subscribed there. ): (Like I would. :roll:)

I know that it's been talked there, but I'm surprised to find that the guy (or the girl?) from Rubicon (Forwardmotion or something) was promoted *cough* to FA. I thought he said he'd stop making Sims stuff. :roll:



Yeah, that's because she get paid for making these items. :roll:

That's the new thing in Sims community. You say you need to get a life so you stop creating stuff for sims, but who knows maybe you'll be back someday, but for now you're closing your site. The next day you're on TSR, uploading your stuff as a FA.

All the cool kids are doing it!

Did you guys check out Forwardmotion's opener in the bio? Something about I should be out having a real life but instead I'm here creating life for you. Something to that effect. I'm too lazy to go look to do an exact quote.  :P Don't you just feel the love oozing from that site? Like, does that really mean you think everyone that goes to TSR for stuff is a loser because they have no lives, just like you, because they download your stuff and you make the stuff? I dunno, I didn't think it was great advertising for the site.  :lol:  It sort of has an edge to it. Perhaps Tom should reconsider that FA status he handed over.

It's good to be clean. I've only gone back for the Mac forum. That's what got me there in the first place so many years ago, not the content.  :D

Oh, so we should be grateful now? pfffffffffffffttttt. He can take his crap and shove it you-know-where.

I think he should create a life for himself...

If he didn't photoshop the fuck out of his pictures, he might actually have one.  I mean, most of the time you can't even see what he's trying to show you because it's hidden behind limbs and swirly shit.  Lame.

Stim, your avatar is beautimous.  WKRP in Carla Niven land, with a Piratey twist.  Loverrly! :shock:

WKRP!  :lol:  Love it!

Thanks for getting the quote stim. I knew it was something like that but didn't have the gumption to go get it. Can't say I care much since I don't like his stuff. I just sort of thought it wasn't very appropriate and had a little too much attitude to it for trying to reel some bucks in. Do you WANT to be an FA? If not, don't. We don't need your pissy attitude in your bio glaring at us.

Oh, pity him. That's so SAD. All of us, with guns to his head, FORCING him to create. And he screams and cries and says 'Please, no more, my poor fingers are bleeding, I don't even like the Sims, it was all a terrible joke, I need to be able to go out, and spend all the money I'm getting for this, let me go!! '

:lol: Yeah, I know. My first reaction was, "What?! Are we supposed to feel sorry for you?!" Jerk.

I like how the FAs go on so freely about not being able to have a life because they create for the sims. What? Ok, so who's driving your life? And, get the nut out of the driver's seat and take charge yourself. I mean, nobody needs to come off like that. I don't feel sorry for them. Quit. Stop doing it. They DO have a choice.

I dunno, I rather like my lack of life. The undead always pay their bills in full.

RALPH!  HUGHIE!!

(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n141/a44caliberloveletter/Oh_the_Drama.jpg)

Seriously though, i couldn't even FINISH that post. It has confused me.

Please define what you mean by stealing.

My understanding of the word 'steal' is to deprive somebody of something.  As far as TSR is concerned, they still have their files, we have not deprived them from their possessions.

Full credit is given back to the FA's we are not passing these files off as our own.

The files are here, to give people the opportunity to aquire free content that should be free in the first place.  

Please read the EULA.

Well what can I possibly say about anna?

Oh yeah,

Bitch, please!  You act like TSR is going to cure cancer.

I'm so sure she's not going to read this because she's... fill in the blank: done, never coming back, leaving for good, giving up The Sims because of rude people, etc.

Jist 'nuther wun of doz peeples that kan't spel or use grahamR or punkchooashun.  :lol:

Admit it. That post gave everyone here a headache. What was the point of it anyway? She loves TSR. Good for her. Don't spread the disease sweetie.

I hate annoying n00bs. That 'rant' is so been there done that.

Go tell someone who cares. *shoves Anna into a well*

Either they dont understand? or cannot read anyway.
 
whats worse is they believe they have a right to do what they do because EA is not doing much if anything about it..
so whoever sells their pixelated creation is stealing' plain and simple.
 
EA has stated anything created using their programs belongs to maxis.

My guess is they dont mind being theives as long as no one from EA is screaming theif or out putting those pretty steele cuffs on their wrists

everyone knows Anna is merely a  bot  (http://basshunter.m0o.eu/video,BotenAnna,English)

A bit off message aren't we?  Try making her walk the plank - duh!

Au contraire, Anna, it is mine.  I paid for it, and thus, it belongs to me and I can share it with whomever I like.  I am not claiming I made it, and they're all credited.  Plus, we're saving them bandwidth!




Morals are subjective.  I personally don't find it very moral that a lot of these so-called brilliant creators and site owners are trying to rake kids over the coals and bilk their parents out of their hard-earned money for shoddy workmanship and poor customer service.

Think of it this way:  We're letting potential customers try before they buy!

Are you German, or do you just have an irresistible shift key?

They have souls?

C.

IMO the very reason this site is here, is basically because of the lack of morals on the side of the paysites.

Anyone with free content that just invites people to join have not been added here.

Some of us see it differently: We think it's wrong to charge for third-party game content and, as in other gaming communities, when someone tries it, we distribute the stuff for free, the way it should be. In short, we see things from the moral perspective of traditional gamers, and we think you can take your faffy artiste morals and shove 'em.

People who charge money for 3rd party game content have a vested interest in keeping any knowledge they may have from other people. They don't belong to the community; they parasitically feed off it. They're despicable.

But if you still want to claim it's our side that lacks morals, go right ahead. The more upset paysite owners get, the happier I am. I still have a bunch of booty to download -- and I actually have the time on this rainy Christmas day to do it.

Morals? I'm a pirate, what the hell would I do with morals?

Nevermind I figured it out. Load them in my cannon and fire them at paysites.  :twisted:

If she really had faffy artiste morals, she'd be up in arms about creators taking textures and models from copyrighted works and leading downloaders to assume that they, the creators, made them - and anyone who so much as was inspired by a copyrighted work, ever.  :D  I don't know that she has morals so much as a really, really strong desire to feel like she's better than someone. Anyone.



Make her walk the plank yourself if you want her to so badly. Pushing people into wells is my thing.

faffy artist morals... such as:

<Wolveswood> Going to my cousins today in the afternoon, which'll be interesting
<Wolveswood> Their parents found their collective pot stashes
<Wolveswood> Agin
<Wolveswood> For like the fifth time
<Wolveswood> They're both 'artists' and claim it's their excuse


whee, faffy artists = drugs! hoorah for faffy artists

Troll's recipe

Ingredients (for 4 persons):
1 cup patronizing attitude, "I know already, nobody cares, but I had to say it anyway" brand.
1 1/2 teaspoons closed mind accusations
1 oz. uninterested pose

Directions:
Put patronizing attitude in a bowl, add the accusations and the pose and carefully stir together avoiding lumps. Blend well with a cup or two of generic moral blabber. Bake in subtle arrogant indifference for 10-15 minutes.
Garnish with a couple of insults, and serve.


Easy, quick, but - sad to say - too common and known.
Nice try, anyway.

Cut the crap already.

When you are about the business of faking moral superiority, it's best you not contradict yourself.  It's ok for paysite creators to steal the work of EA games, steal meshes from 3D artist communities, and countless copyrighted photographs of others, but we are the ones who are immoral.  All that other stuff is ok because EA isn't doing anything about it?  

That logic is so severely flawed and yet so convenient for paysite creators (in several cases, the true thieves).

What is actually going on is that too many thieves passing themselves off as creators have the stones to call others thieves for doing what EA Games intended all along - freely distributing their files.  At least here, we're not ripping off someone else's work and pretending it is our own.

As an added bonus for you, EA is not doing anything to stop filesharing either.  The latest expansion pack even made it easier to distribute content by including all meshes when you package a file.  And the patched version of Bodyshop does nothing to change that, in spite of the temper tantrums of various "creators."

Still feel like EA is "souly [sic]" on your side?

Stop confusing moral relativity with morality.

Renatus, there are no wells at the sea.  :wink:

Anna, go to the Exchange. Count all the pay stuff that's uploaded there. Yes, count them all, to keep yourself busy. There's your "morals". EA's morals.

That was beautiful.

Right. i don't even know what the hell he is offering. The hair, the dress or a mesh.

At the absolute worst, "stealing" from TSR is like sneaking into a movie theater to see Gigli. That's the worst. That's the absolute most horrible terrible thing that PMDB could possibly be ever guilty of.

Nobody is losing a damn thing if you see a movie for free that you wouldn't have paid to see anyway. Even if you would have paid for it, that money doesn't go to the theaters (or site bandwidth), it goes directly to the money grubbing studios (or Thomas).

And who do you care more about? 20th Century Fox, or your local movie theater that gives back to the community?  If you care more about Warner Brothers, by all means, go buy their stuff, but if you dont, buy the candy and sneak in.

This site is simply the backdoor into the movie theater.

hahah.... Gigli...  never saw it but heard it was good...  >.>

joke!!!

I saw it, but only because the theater was giving away shirts that read "I sat through Gigli" with every ticket purchase. Was a deal I couldn't refuse, considering I was in film school at the time.

Haven't been to TSR in ages since they suck so hard but went round today reluctantly following a link to find a mesh (starts to sound like some nursery rhyme). Waded through 127 pages of stuff by Mia Barows (her status must be the one under FA as ALMOST all of her stuff was free). I was cruising through, initally pleasantly surprised that the mesh I'd gone looking for was still/really & truly free and then realized that she has 2 or 3 huge sets that need one item-mesh to work (as they pull their textures from it) and GOD DAMN but that one FUCKING thing out of 127 pages was LOCKED UP TIGHT by TSR.

Sorry to screech but I was appalled at their utter lack of shame & subtlety.

They are sooooo evil.

Also, anyone got her freaking bentform dining table? Arrrrgh. :x

Link me directly to it, Angelus.

If no one else has that, let me know and I'll arrange to get it uploaded here.

http://www.rogepost.com/n/4342089924 >.>

I can't say this enough. I loves each & every one of you scurvy pirates. Thanks for the prompt dl link and yes mommy, I promise I learned my lesson and will never go to that evil, evil, evil place ever again.

Well, that's a sneaky thing...

I've finally got my new PC, and as such, my game can finally handle CC. I was fancying some of Carrigon's stuff, and Googled 'Sims Workshop', as my bookmarks got fucked somehow, and discovered that the URL www.simsworkshop.com redirects you to...The Sims Resource. *raises eyebrow*. Looks like they're buying up any domain name people could get confused with, just so they don't lose any possible custom. Gone are the days  when if you mistyped and went to 'thesimresource.com' you'd end up at a porn site....(actually, I just checked, that now takes you to a plceholder, but still.)

How dare they take porn away from us! D:

Yes, cos porn is damn tricky to find on the internets...:p

Gah! I think my head is going to explode with the suckiness and evil of TSR!

Gee I get Carrigon's site fine, it must be a typo in athe address, try here:
http://www.sims2workshop.com/forum.php

Heres a good free hack sir too :)
http://www.pc-sims.com/smb/domainpage.php

Yes, I wasn't having problems getting there, it was just an observation of what I found while while I was looking for it...:)

Also, yes, PC Sims is made of win and god.

I agree. TSR is a pretty sucky website. Other than a handful of the FA, most of the stuff on there is pure and utter crap. Them fa's need to get there butts out of there and make them self a website.

I HATE the fact my favorite Sims site, Sims2sisters went over to their darkside (TSR).

I used to get whatever I wanted from TSR from a fellow simmer before all this paysite/share controversy started. I really never go there anymore. I am sure I've caught at least one virus in the past from that place.

I agree, S2S was one of my fav sites, and the fact the chose to be apart of such a tacky site just devestates me....

You know what?  Since they were your favorite site, why don't you send them a message letting them know both that and how you feel about them moving to TSR?  Even mention the fact that BlueSoup has a site for wayward FA's if the TSR move is not agreeing with them...?

I don't believe it - even some of the people all for the federation idea have TSR linkies on their sites.   I don't think I will be truly at rest till that site falls into an even bigger black hole than it has become.  And that's more a personal thing cos anything I can't get away from makes me phobic regardless of its attributes.

It seems like anyone with a link to TSR is tainted in some way.

I feel like putting rubber gloves on everytime I click a site that affiliates/links to TSR.

In fact, sites that link to any site that is a paysite of any description, lose my respect.

Sims2Sisters was awesome freesite. I never thought they'd transfer to TSR...

btw, does anyone know how to delete accounts from TSR? Cause I made one long time ago, and now I wanna get rid of it. But I can't see 'delete account' button anywhere.

I'm fairly sure you can't, I certainly couldn't see any option to do so. I suppose you could message them and request they remove your account, but there doesn't appear to be any way to sort it yourself...

Getting banned from TSR is a pretty surefire way of having your account deleted. :P

Post a comment in an FA creation, asking for free files.  Quickest way for them to get rid of your account, without trace.

Such nefarious means. >.>

:D

I remember being avid TSR fan, till I found this place. I thought $5 a month not bad. Yeah easy way to get banned, ask for freebies. I think the Coalition of free sites their trying to start might help slow down the TSR monopoly. Otherwise they just buy up tiny sim sites, that have some pay. Its got to be ego for some of them, you know my creations are so good their going to pay me for them.

It's a shame we don't have prior notice of who TSR make FA's.

If I knew who was going to possibly become a FA, I would let them know how much respect they would lose.

@Nouk, you have my utmost respect for having the noddle to tell them to shove it, or whatever your reason was.

A lot of the FAs really want to be FAs...they think all the prestige comes with it. And since u can earn a bit of money while being admired by sheep, why not?

I would love to be one too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111111 :o

Yeah, me too. But it isn't fair to the others. So it's a selfish thing to do.

I'm doing the same: I download and I don't rate o thank...but I have a lot of support issues (they reply them, but when I think that is all solved I got other trouble with my subscription, please don't ask me what  :roll: ! ) :evil:
How can I say a single thank you with all the troubles that I have with my subscription?????  :?:

I can't help asking the obvious (at least to me). Why does she stay at TSR?

Netseeker had a huge run-in with Thomas over the site changes late last year, I think it was mostly the ratings. She ranted and raved, he deleted heaps of her posts (along with other members' non-complimentary posts) which made her rant even more, then she stormed out, put up a "Netseeker2 RIP" avatar, and swore never to return. Thomas apparetly made an effort as she was back pretty quickly (a couple of weeks?), not sure what he did as she's not an FA and therefore not getting paid, but she gave the appearance of returning willingly. *shrug* It was amusing for awhile and I was hoping some sheep might start to think seeing Thomas act like that, maybe a couple did. He was doing a great job of demonstrating what was wrong with his own site. I really hope he lost some subscribers over it.

Some very good points in her rant, but as Rocket says, why does she stay? Maybe Blue would take her as a TSR defector.

Man well I just think she summed up, their kind of like a sweatshop paying from 0 to next to nothing for the creations, while they rake in the real money.

I dunno...she seems awfully unstable.

I've heard so much stuff about Thomas and TSR lately that it turns my stomach.

Aren't a lot of the people in the sims community unstable? expectially paysite owners/creators coughcarlacough

She LOVES TSR soooooooooooo much now. They made her a Select Artist (when her stuff was seriously so crappy -who needs those ugly pictures of fast food in their games) and she was sooooooooooooo honoured so she is back.

I cant believe this! All this for JUST a game. I could see if this was like over 3D content and textures like poser, that is used often proffessionally in advertising, and animation. But for a game? I understand people have a need to get accomplishments and all, but there are other ways you can do that away from the computer, or in the Artistic 3D community.

Unstable and a two-faced wench. What a combination. Reminds me of that one FA given a new position at TSR. Atwa? The creator that makes butt-ugly textures that rival Sugary Sims cheetah outfit. :lol:  A few people told me that Atwa also threw a whiny tantrum about leaving (around the same time Netseeker was) and was made as an FA for PR sake to throw off the suspicion that Tom was hiring outside artists. Little does everyone know that he hopes to one day monopolize the Sims community.  :wink:

Well maybe lots of folks getting educated, and a silent exodus is going on out there.

Well, the last stunt with the ratings got me to walk. I think it's sad that netseeker2 is back, and as an SA. I was part of the original comment bash that Thomas deleted and I was part of the ensuing BS thread he started after nuking the disapproving comments. More than netseeker left but they didn't put as much flair into it.  :P

And I'm not quite sure how Atwa got FA. And now two new staff positions, one for her and one for Cyclonesue. What's with that? Managing the artists? Mmmm, I'm not sure the artists are what need managing. Maybe some need their heads examined but I can't see how assigning babysitters to them will help.

To think, Thomas will go hunt you down if you throw a big enough fit. Seems like he's under a little manipulation there.  :lol: And fell for it. "It's OK honey. Don't be mad. Don't cry. I'll make it all better. Here's a sucker."

I really just love those FAs and TSR. Don't you? *is being sarcastic*

Seriously though, TSR turns my stomach. And I'm sorry if you're an FA and getting paid to make stuff...you're a waste of time. I have seen much better free content out there and refuse to pay for a subscription just to stroke these people's egos.

I don't really care for anything on the sims2 recourse. Except Chaz Designs "Britney" Hair. So far I've been only able to find the blond color. If any one has the rest, they should send me the files :D . Any way, I think it's a pretty good value. Only 9 for one month. where as sites with much less stuff like peggy are 10 for one month. And don't get me started on rose. To donate for everything on her site. you would have to pay, if I remember correctly, near $60 dollars. That's outrageous

Fresh-Prince and aikea_guinea have recently been added to the ranks of FA.

I thought TSR was $8.95 for 2 months. But... I'm in the states. Maybe it's different across the globe. Wait a sec, lemme get it... $8.95 for 2 months (auto renew), $23.95 for 6 months, and $42.95 for 12 months. PayPal and VISA/Mastercard accepted. Uh, if anyone cares that is. :P

You get a discount if you buy everything. It's about 81$.

What, no $19.95 PLUS a second set for free?! Never needs sharpening or cleaning. Lasts forever and gets out any stain.  :lol:

Sorry, but $81! Good God! The men in the little white coats need to make more rounds.

 

Even worse than I thought :shock:


and Yea I mispoke. Your right about TSR being 8.95 for two :D

On the grounds of the following being unreasonably amusing... A long-time FA in the ranks(that wishes to remain anon) mentioned to me that Atwa got down on her knees and suckled 'little Tom' to get the job.  :lol:

*Shields the eyes of the children here*

:lol:  :lol:
Oh dear. You said "little tom" shouldn't it be "microscopic tom"  :P

Man, I never realized how much sex goes on behind the scenes of this community.  Was this cybersex or did they actually meet? *wants juicy details*

Oh, and, uh... *joins surelyfunke in shielding eyes of the underaged*

Heh, with apologies, next time I'll say,  "trousersnake" for the young ones. :lol:

They actually met as they both live in the same country. Atwa posted pictures of their meeting in her blog at TSR. Think about the recent promotions and the lack of talent on that FA's part. Plenty of shagging is going on.

I prefer "trousermaggot" for him.

Hey! We're all mature 12 year olds here aren't we  :wink:

Oh my, I'm blushing.  :lol:

Ya know, I was gonna say something like that but... kept the horror to my own imagination. There you go though, scaring all the kids like that. Now they'll be having nightmares of Michael Jackson AND Thomas.

???
Now you lost me.

Although, all kids should have nightmares about MJ.

Ok, they'll have nightmares about Michael Jackson doing something to them AND images of Atwa and Thomas dancing in their heads. Kids have vivid imaginations you know. You don't have to tell them much and they'll just run with it.  :wink:

He doesn't even have to do anything, he's just scary because he exists.
I thought so even before the molestation allegations.

Um, yeah, me too. That whole nose falling off thing and slimey hair would do it. And the painted on makeup and eyebrows. Just the whole going from poor black boy to rich white woman bothered me.  :lol:

:lol: You said it better than I ever could have!  :D

I'm still laughing and can't quite type properly. I can easily imagine Atwa doing that, she's suck an ass-kisser on the site and I can easily imagine that little Tom doesn't get much action from anyone apart from Mrs Palmer.
A rare case of actually laughing out loud.

I'm sure you can see their love bed in those pics.

Took a screen cap, just in case they mysteriously disappear.

Any body wanna give me the link?  :D *nosy*

Eeeeewwwww... but now I need to go look.  :lol:

Ewww... but a link would be nice... ;)

http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/atwa/blog/

Scroll down about half way.

After studying the pic a bit more, I think it may be the sofa.  It looked like a bed in the background.

Oooohh, that's nice. Hey, I can't make it out but what is that "thing" Thomas has in the first shot? I red rubber?  :lol:  Like, here we are, getting ready, and then here we are again, back from the beyond.

I think the hot spot would be the rolltop desk in the background.  :wink: Yeah... Tom's working on his study habits.

:shock:
She got to be a FA with those textures?
They are really good friends, or she did him a "favour"...

*shudder*

After 20 blissful seconds...  :lol:

Damn looks like Tom will get it from where ever he can

I didnt know she was a FA :shock: . Well so much for the quality criteria for that status.

If you read the second page with previous entries, she was told about her FA status the day she visited which suggests an obvious connection.

eeeewwwww!

Oh nasty! The neighbors! Somebody call the neighbors! I want details! OK, um, no, not really. So... she visited him? That's his place? I don't know why but I'm giggling out of control. I think it's all getting to me.

LOL thanks for responding to my request for dirty details =)

...ugh, like alia said, she MUST have done him some favors... that stuff is shite!!

Captain where, at TSR the second page not following you? I checked the second page here, nothing I see connects.Was she visiting someone from TSR. Is there a link I looked back in the thread?

There's a link on the previous page here, Soupything...

I am filled with shudders and lulz.

Scary ugly pictures :cry:

Ah, very scary pictures. I'm going to have nightmares now.

Oh now I see it I went over several pages....Thomas and her a couple? Not getting quite how shes buddy buddy with all these guys. See shes visiting Per. Yuk. If she tried to make it in poser with those designs her stuff would be free only with low dls. I guess Thomas is in love, overlooked quality.
yeah yeah sure, she didn't show really where he lived.
from her blog;
This at least shows the little space he works at. It´s only a desk beside me and then I have the door behind me.. Poor Per, sitting here, the air was very dry... my eyes and my head felt a bit tired and slow after a couple of hours...

Mmmm, OK. I looked further and read more. So, who's Thomas married to? He's got a wedding ring in the turtle picture. Or, is that a weird Sweden thing because over here in the states the left ring finger is reserved for the engagement/wedding rings.

Is it just me, or does anyone else find her blog and pictures disturbing? I find her disturbing.

Disturbing and booooooooooring..

Yeah I noticed she was with Per too, but did you all see what she wrote? ;)



Hmmm wonder what the picture is.......I have too vivid of an imagination!!! ahhhh!

:lol:

How Vivid are we talking? :P

We're talking 18+ need to click on a waiver saying you're over the age etc etc.... just EWWWWW

Geesh blushing reread all the way back..Well Thomas doesn't look thrilled to have his picture taken. And who is Sumba? Why do I want to laugh about Sumba? she wites have a laugh. Did anyone go to page 2. It shows a sideview of his office...now thats a pretty snazzy looking office for someone struggling to pay their server.

Maybe she offered to stop stalking the staff if they let her be an FA.

So's we have something to think about other than "lil' Tom":

Millions had giant puffy hair in the 80s- that didn't make it less fucking stupid and "butt-ugly".

Besides, she's just cracked 1,000,000 when she has 1,827 files up. That's not something I'd use for bragging.

LOL and she was saying she got the bulk of her DLs when they were free. And in the same blog, she describes herself as a dumb blonde.

...Didn't someone here on PMBD say she has "butt-ugly textures?" Hmm. *waves at Atwa*

All those pictures on her blog are creepy as hell. I agree that they must've made her an FA just so she would stop talking the TSR staff.  :lol:

:D
Sorry, couldn't resist. It fits, doesn't it?

I love reading the gossip here. You guys are merciless. It's great.
I wonder what will happen to her downloads now that her stuff is pay. It's almost worth watching to laugh at her again.

Erm, I'd say those numbers aren't going to move much. Actually, I'm glad to have her out of the free pool.  :lol:

Yeah, I caught wind of that "to Thomas's satisfaction" part too last night and about wet my pants laughing. And those 18+ images... I had them too. I'm horrible but they just pop in there.

Her blog is like a train wreck. It's awful and you should look away, but you can't... must... continue... to... look... at... garbage. It's given so many good laughs though because I can't believe she thinks all that crap is OK and I can't believe Thomas told her to put those pictures in her blog? It's not really a good image of him. None of them photograph well anyway.

I haven't a clue who Sumba is either. But, she tracked down Thomas, then Per, then Sumba. Mmmm, they do have a stalker on their hands. Perhaps instead of Atwa being on her knees to Thomas, perhaps he was on his begging her to leave him alone, promising FA status if she'd leave.

The whole thing just creeps me out. And are all the FAs that way? I mean, do they all go meet him and chum around? Do they all have shots of him holding soggy turtles? Oh, and really, if Thomas has all those animals, including the rabbit, can you imagine what his place smells like? I mean, litterboxes, stinky fish water, turtle poop, and the rabbit will be the worst. Have any of you smelled a rabbit that is kept inside. Good Lord! His place has got to be on Mike Rowe's blotter for the next episode of Dirty Jobs.

Thomas must never pose with turtles again. The poor turtles.

In Poland, it's the right hand. Dunno about Sweden.

Wedding rings are worn on the left hand in Sweden, afaik.

That blog bothers me. Insinuating much there? Eurgh.

So who wants to hear the latest gossip/info about Thomas that I can actually share? :P

Your an effin' tease, spit it out.  Stop dangling carrotts.



Yes please, sorry forgot my manners.

Yes please :)

As some may know (but most may not), I've been uploading BoutiqueEmilie's content to MTS2 with the permission that was given on her site to do so.  I've been doing it only a few at a time so as to not spam up the place lol.  Anyhow, I have it stated pretty clearly in her "About Me" and her signature that I'm only doing it on behalf and that I'm not her.

So imagine my surprise when I got this PM this morning:



This translates to:



And I didn't mean to be a tease, I started writing this post right after the last one but I got busy at work. :P

I love gossip.  Thats great info.

It's a shame you posted that though, you could have conversed with the writer, seen how far they would go, then after all the pm's put it in its own thread.

I do adore this site.

I consider impersonating someone just one step sideways from revealing their personal information, so no, I wouldn't do that. :P

I'd rather just do a "neener neener" and tell him to fuck off.

Whoa. That's heavy. Um, can he not read? You said you stated it clearly that you're not her but just uploading her stuff for her.

Snicker, what are you going to do? Play with him a little?

Geez, I was too slow. You guys beat me to a reply.  :(

Did you send a reply, or are you going to let him read it here?

I was wondering the same thing. Did you reply or will he just have to read it on here?

Nah, he can read it here like everyone else. :P

I know Delphy sent him a nasty note to stop trying to poach MTS2 creators. ;)

Oh I would say so. Doesn't he have enough talent over there already? I'm sure there are artists in the lower ranks (anything below SA or FA) on there that would enjoy being promoted. I know I see some decent stuff from non-SAs and non-FAs on there and they're still nobodies.

There's a difference though, TSR isn't free, MTS2 is. Does he not think that is a deciding factor for artists?

That's the biggest difference. And lately I've noticed more people saying they aren't going to subscribe to TSR because of all the going-ons over there.

As for how Atwa became an FA...I'm still baffled at that. I only had one of her creations and that was a recolor of one of the Maxis doors, I couldn't stand everything else.

Her textures are atrocious...  There is definitely something fishy about her promotion.  And judging by Thomas's general appearance (slightly creepy) I think some favours have definitely been exchanged.

Oh stop it! The nasty 18+ images are back in my head! Noooooooo!!!!

Crap. Now I need to go to therapy.  :lol:

I'm going to agree with the texture issue but there's also in issue about her horrid use of color. Everything glows practically. Really, most of her stuff hurts my eyes. It's like... the stuff we all make fun of for being so bad. And now that sort of thing earns an FA status AND a special staff position at TSR.

I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one creeped out by some of the stuff in those photos. The more I read and the more photos I saw, I just felt like I needed a shower when I was done. I couldn't even keep going because it just felt... wrong. TOO MUCH INFORMATION!

Interruption alert.

TSR Link. (http://forums.thesimsresource.com/showthread.php?t=328308)

We are all wrong, we should pack up and leave.  TSR is barely meeting bandwidth costs.

Just in case the thread mysteriously goes pooft,  I took screencaps.

Back off topic folks.

:lol: Um, I think paddywak isn't going to live long. Once Big Brother puts his fist down.

I always find it amusing too read all the different excuses the sheep make for paysites  :D

I don't know why, the last question was quite valid.  Although off topic.  White..(whatever the name is) opened up that invitation.

EDIT:  And, alas that last post was deleted, but not before it was viewed by quite a few people.

Aww. Bless him/her.  :)

Yeah, I could almost feel the poke in the eye that post caused. It just sort of hits you. I give him/her credit for layin' it out there.

It was me. I was being kind but really I shouldn't have been. Atwa, if you are here reading then I might as well say that I hope you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs. The only way you got your FA position was by opening your legs up to Tom and stalking the entire TSR staff. Your textures are deficient, stale, and unprofitable. Look at your sorry ass download numbers and you'll see what I mean. Do us all a favor and throw yourself off a cliff to splatter your non-talent brains on the rocks below. No one will be sad if you did.

Any gossip about Tom and his harem is music to my ears.  Doesn't surprise me that he's scouring around for artists. He's a fucking idiot.

 :shock:  Nobody could have said it better

Umm, is that true?  :shock:

I don't know if it's true or not but that was a good speech.

Who knows, but isn't libel fun? :D Being overreactively nasty about video game content is a real joy, too.

So glad I'm not the only one that feels that way. =P

It's refreshing to be able to throw out what you really think about something. And it's entertaining to read too. I get so many laughs from here, and juicy gossip.

Yea, I love this place :D

Anne, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.

I thought she only opened her mouth. Looking at the photos I'd say that was the preferable option.

Opened her mouth, offered her hand, and sealed it with a kiss.

Ah! The images! They're back! I'm going to have to kill a sim or something tonight.

You could always start an Uglacy with an Atwa sim and have it fail horribly when she dies of fright 'cause all the TSR staff ghosts are out to get her. lol
A fun scenario, but a lot more work than she's worth.

Yay for butt-ugly atwa textures:
(http://isc.ibibi.com/images/scaled/w-250h-192-396171.jpg)
Actual comment left (swear to God): "Such a pretty dresser, you really did a marvelous job with this set."
(http://isc.ibibi.com/images/scaled/w-250h-200-400321.jpg)
1332 downloads... which I do NOT understand....
(http://isc.ibibi.com/images/scaled/w-250h-181-422734.jpg)
Why do people do recolors like this?  I don't get what makes it worth the effort...

Oh, and a response to her blog that made me grin:


Right, I'm SOOOOO envious that she got to blow Thomas and I didn't :roll:

My eyes! They bleed! Did you have to bring her crap here? Wait, this is one FA we're not adding to the booty, right?  :wink:

um, downloading EA items? what? Did I miss something?

I posted that because of Wildstars second reply, she opened up for someone to ask.

"Does it cost TSR over $8,000 a month for bandwidth?"

But that post got deleted.

It's a few posts down the thread, thingy24's post.
I've read so many posts by her and I can see her avatar but I'm not going back just to get you her name.
I love it! A TSR mind blank.

Gee, I wonder what happened to paddywak. Their post got deleted, I wonder if their account at TSR did as well.

I wouldn't worry, if their account got deleted, there would probably be another to take their place.

Don't worry, I'm sure she'll choke on her words in the end.

...I can't believe I just wrote that. Bad, bad brain.

:lol:  Well I was gonna say she'll cough up a hairball and have to tell us about it, with photos!  :twisted:

oh, I see it now  :oops:

L. O. Fuckin' L!

RageRage: Proudly lowering the tone of forums across the land.

Thanks to Atwa, our minds are all in the toilet right now. I'm going to have nightmares again tonight. I just know it. Something about turtles...

Turtles? But they are so cute!!

Only from a Scot... :p

(Sorry, Scots heritage. I take liberties. :))

Funny that you guys mentioned dreams. I had the weirdest dream last night that involved Reno, some turtles, a gecko (I have them in my house), Michael Jackson and a can of shaving cream.

No, not what you're thinking. It was awful *shudders* I don't like my brain, but I suspect it was this thread that caused it.

:shock:

...um...

:shock:

Only because if one pokes a sheep it will certainly bleet. I've got nothing personal against any of the FA's or the paysite owners. I simply detest the utter stupidity they spread freely around the internet.

My Blue what a nice little day, start your day out with a message from Thomas. Oh thats right Thomas cant read or was distracted, so he thought he was writing to emilie. Or what if he was playing with you, he knew it was you blue, but pretended it was Emilie. It was kind of like trying to see if he could get a rise out of you. But more than likely he couldnt read.

So Thomas, and staff I hope were giving you ulcers over there.

I was thinking to if this is a open forum after all we got nothing to hide, and EA must monitor its sim fan sites. Maybe EA's legal and copyright department reads this forum for tips for the legal lawsuit they are building against you Thomas, and the rest of your staff. The pictures of you and Atawa was a little to much, you didn't seem to like having your picture taken either. I thank you for adding Atawa to your FA list, if you continue adding artist of similiar merit, you will certainly have reclining subscription rates. I dare you to bring more Atawas into the fold of FA status and prove us wrong. Yes Atawa can really design :shock: you have no sense of taste, you proved it by promoting her. :shock:
And it is illadvised to mix love and bussiness relations to. Bad things happen.

Well, TSR already has their stuff. They don't need to promote the little people unless they get restless and threaten to leave.
But I'd expect everyone decent to eventually become FAs, because trying to drive up subscriptions that way has already worked so well!

*Begins to see thread title in a totally new light*

LMAO mac you and i are in the same boat!  If only there was brain bleach cause some of those images you just DON'T want.  *shudders*

oh the gossip i just love it!

But d'you have to be so tacky about it? There is a certain finesse involved in making people angry. Like, not outright stating whatever horrible thing they might have done as fact. For one thing, it'll make you look stupid if it isn't true, and for another, it doesn't allow anyone to imagine things even worse, like insinuation does.

As for telling someone to go kill themselves, that makes it look like you have way too much emotional investment in this whole thing and makes you ripe for a "Internets is serious business!" response, followed by being ignored. Sure, telling somone to go kill themselves'll piss people off, but it also tells them that you actually care about the matter and keeps the person you told to die even more stubborn about whatever annoying thing they are doing and more sure that they are in the right.

Remember that the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference, and a patronizing tone and an attitude of indifference is what really seeds a target's mind with doubt.

Being a jerk is easy, but being a real bastard takes class.

I noticed that too and chuckled quietly to myself.

edit: bah I can't spell

Is that why I piss so many people off? I'm so indifferent about everything, especially if it's near and dear to someone I don't care for. I've learned giving no response or a level-headed one tends to tip the anger meter more. But not taking a side pisses everyone off that is on one side or the other. Usually I just don't give a rip.

But, all in all, it's still fun to read stuff here.  :P

Yea, this thread is funny :D

I think there's rumblings in the ranks now. They can all put on a happy face and be cheery and keep making things for TSR but I'm sure they are starting to question things, even the actions of their mighty ruler.

I'm sure this whole Atwa thing didn't fare well will some of the FAs. What a slap in the face, especially to the good ones that really deserve the title.

Aw, did I pick on your girlfriend?

If she can spit nastiness to people who aren't present, surely she can do it to someone who is. :D

If they'd promoted MsBarrows, sgoobyshack (Chris no no no FA stay free) that I could of see. But Atawa? So I can see why all this gossip and speculation. She needs to go back to nursing she cant design. Their (Chris and Ms Barrows)creations worlds above Atawa. But maybe they approached many in the top artist list and they have been turned down. Ms. Barrows she makes a lot of Maxis matching stuff that is downright great. If I was some of them. I'd stop submitting there, and go stay at Free sites 8) . I have not seen Chris add anything for months, I'm assuming he doesn't want to go pay or have TSR make money off of it. I think, disatisfaction among the FAs, and the other artists, will be the best way to take TSR down.

Money talks. Once the group starts to crumble TSR is going to have a hard time picking up the pieces. I think they've made some really dumb moves recently and they've gotten away with it with people, but it's starting to add up. Even I've been over there thinking, "What the hell type of decision is that? Are you TRYING to piss everyone off, even your moneymakers?"

I agree. And I want to add something. A lot of people are finding out about this site and coming over to out side (slowly but surely) I mean if someone where to sign up as TSR (i would be willing to do this  :D ) And post on the boards with this site in their siggy i mean who knows how that could turn out.    I haven't been in the sims community long (only since the sims 2 first came out) But I already know that TSR isn't doing as good as they want everyone to think.  Me and 2 of my other friends once had a sub their. But a lot of people (that i know) canceled their subs so we did to. I mean if that site goes down I do not wanna go down with it  :shock:

Okee I'm done  :D

That is something similar to what  I said to TSR when I asked them to delete my first account.  Something like.

"Please delete my account, please remove my uploads (which they didn't for a long time).  I don't want to be part of this site.  I don't want to be responsible for paying your mortgage/rent/car.  When the shit hits the fan I don't want to be part of it."

 :lol:  You said that?! *Gives you a cookie....like an american cookie*

Oooooh, a white chocolate chip macadamia nut cookie.  :D

I haven't uploaded in a long time over there. To see where the site has gone from the old days really makes me sad.

I have considered trying to get my stuff off there. Really though, I can make new stuff and forget it all.

If EA is going to take up a lawsuit with them it could become a class action and everyone that is a member of TSR might be able to get something in return for TSR burning in hell. Or, EA will make sure we all burn in hell. I'm still over there and active in the Mac forum, because it's really the only good one around for Macs. Guess that makes me fodder.

Yep numbers growing by day Red, and the new server not switched yet. When the booty back up there will be an exodus.

well eventually when your corrupted by your success you become blind as they say. so if I was FA my enthusiasm would be waning. I was looking through retired lists> Betterbesims, Bitsybus, Dee. They were very talented now gone. They evidently saw the light. I think too it gets old for some. I want to do something new. I go through periods I dont play sims. I need a change you know, and do other stuff. Some of these people been there a while, and may want a break from just creating. I mean if Sim Addict, Mustke, Padre, Cashcraft, No frills, Arenaria...all walked they'd be desperate for replacemts. I mean, Arenaria she hasnt created in a while from what I can tell. No frills kind of does more bussiness stuff, and cute original sets. Padre class modern furniture (good recolors too). Mutske has nice little sets too. And Cashcraft she makes the doll house type furniture, even if your not into her stuff, she is one of the few she packs her sets  with lots of fun things). Sim Addict is very versatile to. But like I said before she works for Simchic to. If I was them see someone make bad designs, and get promoted over me who'd been there longer. I'd be be mad, and they give her a position. Nah thats a recipe for disaster!

I wanted to add, the quality at TSR free stuff is low at times. Lots of wallpaper, floors, bad recolors. If the artists walk and they cant get anybody outside TSR they have to fill from bottom ranks, so quality would diminish.

Now if I was one of the artists on TSR (FA preferably it would make it sting more )...I would make a couple of things for TSR. Make it semi good. Then I'd go have my own free site and put up all very good sh*t just to piss them off  :twisted:



Oh I'd be pissed too. I wonder why nobody over at TSR has ever noticed that some of the FA's getting appointed have crappy sh*t? Dumb sheep. I think its safe to say that TSR only attracts stupid people and pirates


 :twisted:

Exactly. That's what I mean. Rumblings in the ranks. FAs have got to be rethinking things.

I could see how you could get burned out from such a high creativity thing. High expectations, probably certain quotas to meet. I know I couldn't be steady as a creator because I work full-time and RL takes its toll and I'll go days or weeks without playing sims. And sometimes I go through a total disinterest phase and go find some book to read or PlayStation game to get into. Then I'll come back. There's no way anyone can continue to pump stuff out at that rate and keep up the quality.

I still see noboy artists over there that do nicer stuff than some FAs, especially Atwa, and they're not promoted yet. Not even to SA. Some people really aspire to be something over there because you can be. If you like to compete and like to be considered the best and bask in the spotlight, it's a good start. Plus, some folks want to share their stuff but don't or can't set up their own site.

Feelings have been hurt all around and I don't see a band-aid in site.

:twisted:

Hey, that's what I was going to do.  :lol: Darn, I tried to edit this and it messed up the quote totally. Sorry all.

Wonder how they feeel when Sim Addict did that one bedroom series for Simchic, the 1001 Arabian nights, kind of neat based off the expensive velvet pet bed, then turned around and released free that storybook set at MTS2? She then brings it over at TSR releases it with bad recolors. Now I see theres a matching nursery set. But just looking at her recolors, I don't think her heart was in it. Simaddict may be loosing enthusiam or close to burn out.

One leads to another. I like Simaddict's stuff too. But, I'd lose my enthusiasm too if suddenly the second-raters were promoted to a level you tried really hard to get to. God, that's got to make you feel like shit. Actually, it does. I've been there at work. It's hard to scrape yourself off the floor and put your heart into it again.

This was the best that you can do after all that bitching about 'class' and yadda yadda yadda? You only proved Calico Jack's initial point at any rate.



Not if you're not worth my time.  :wink:

Moving on to better things...

It's kinda hard to classify what second-rate is at TSR considering the horribly low standard set by the majority of the FAs.

I try to teach you how to sound intelligent when you insult people, and instead you get pissy that I'm picking on you. Oh, Internets!

Ren I thought she was the instructor :roll:

Yeah, it is pretty squishy over at TSR when trying to draw a line between first-rate and second-rate. It was a little cleaner cut before Thomas started promoting anyone just so more stuff would be pay only. I think it's really sad he's gotten so desperate that he's pulling people with icky stuff into the FA pool. To me, having 5 really good FAs and maybe a couple ones that could improve is good. So much trash has been added now that it's hard to see the gems under all that crap. And now there's so much nobody would want to pay for. It drags down the rep of the good FAs.

I've always had my doubts about the FA system though, ever since Buntah was made one...it seemed to me that if you spammed enough and regularly, you were a dead cert to become an FA...

One of the requirements is regular and steady submissions. At least, that's what Thomas wrote in a thread he made about how FAs become FAs. It was clear as mud but I do remember the steady stream of "good quality" items a plus for getting your foot in the door.

That's not how class action suits work. There's also not much customer protection for buying stolen/bootlegged goods. The little that exists applies to unknowingly purchasing them, which is knocked out via everyone having signed the EULA.
Not to mention you'd be trying to get money out of TSR after EA was through getting their money back. Stones only bleed so much.

Those uploading or downloading from TSR wouldn't be sued, by the way- EA would have to be criminally insane / the RIAA to do that.
The FAs are a separate issue, and would depend entirely on EA's mercy if they ignored the Cease and Desist.


I don't see her on the lists- was she demoted?

Regardless, it's to TSR's advantage to promote people who are popular, but will take very low FA pay. Good CCC usually know what they're worth, and fight harder to get it.
Sure, hey may have crap quality, but it encourages the little people to work harder and not complain as much when one of the headhunted goes directly to FA. It also gives the illusion that there's more bang for your subscription buck...even though you were already getting their content for free.

Buntah is retired.

MsBarrows was retired but has returned as an SA. Something must have happened there.

Ah, ok. I remembered seeing her in the rotation at some point, but her name isn't in the retired section. Hence, confusion.

Is her stuff entirely gone? I suppose it could be in the TSR Archive, but that's a trainwreck.

She has her own site now. It's pay :shock:  with some free stuff. get the link at simsconnection.com

I believe Blue meant she retired from TSR not the community. Linda's site (Buntah) is here http://www.personal-computer-tutor.com/sims2/.

I'm waiting to see who their promoting next to replace *Fresh Prince*?Netseeker?

I see too their now spamming us there with EA ads. :P
i guess you are getting hit in the pocket Thomas now the booty's back. A lot of unsubscribers, so you got to opt for more ads?
 :P

Heck, if -I- was one of the artists and had the talent to back it up and get into an FA spot, I'd make some things, put them up on TSR, then release the same things on every goddamn free site I could find simultaneously. What're they gonna do, sue me?

Better, if someone could convince a critical mass of the FAs to do that... could they possibly try to cease-and-desist every free site out there?

Apparently they're going to offer "high quality" sets from the FAs for free now. Woo! I'm just dancing in my seat with that news. Actually, I think I guffawed at the screen and came here after I read that. *shrugs*

Please can I ask, where did you get that snippit of information from?

From the news on the front page: http://www.thesimsresource.com/news.php?ID=2501

From here: http://www.thesimsresource.com/news.php?ID=2501

And I love some of the comments. I'm willing to risk being banned by posting a rather snarky comment.

Uh, doesn't "high quality" and TSR cancel each other out?

TSR and high quality definitely cancel each other out. They have some good stuff on there but...I bet the quality stuff is going to be the left over crap that no one will want.

and we're all supposed to be jumping for joy that they are actually doing something that they said they were going to do originally and then told the FA's to stop doing it?
The original plan as outlined by that fucktard when they switched to FA/RA/SA stuff being pay only was that FA's would be able to set a certain amount of free stuff each WEEK, then it suddenly became one free set (or like 3 free items) a month, and lately there hasnt been any free FA crap.
And everyone in the news thread is praising him for it...oh yes, thank you for doing something you said you were going to do in the first place but yanked away from everyone without a warning...thank you for bringing it back and acting like you're doing us a huge favor. :roll:
The free stuff will probably be older creations that they've been making money off of for 6 months to a year...that all of us already have access to in the booty. I doubt it will be the few high-quality items that they have over there

(http://www.simplystella.com/icons/asd.gif)

Btw, I've been told that Jirka (Glance) is now a FA for TSR. Is that true? ._.''

Yes, very true.

I was soo pissed when Jirka became a FA, but i knew it was gonna happen since he went there.

Some of their artists seem to want to be indistinguishable from each other.  Chaz and Jirka do really similar sim (http://www.thesimsresource.com/downloads/sims2/sims/page3in1538items/) previews and phrase their descriptions the same way.  And now WillStefan has started copying them too.  It doesn't help that they all keep doing the same damn people over and over.

I also just noticed that Dr. Pixel is now a Select Artist, so you can grab his stuff for free.  And we've got a new FA (http://www.thesimsresource.com/news.php?ID=2503).

Well that one really fills a gap in the market.

I suppose TSR was short of underwear for ladies.  They had to appoint an FA who filled that gap.

Plus more jeans and T-shirt jobs.

Dr Pixel is a Select Artist now?

Woo!

Everyone noticed how every one of the dominant sim makers (jirka... I think he made one, willstefan, chaz) made Paris? No one cared when I made one! It was a real long time ago... it got rejected (at mts2 of course, not tsr) because I didn't attach a bodyshot or comparison picture.
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l236/flyingpigeon/paris10.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l236/flyingpigeon/paris.jpg)

I'd like to mention that mine came before Chaz's and Will's :lol:

Seriously now. Glad to hear that Dr Pixel's stuff is free. I'm waiting for them to make Fresh-Prince's stuff free. :D

Who'd want a patent on Paris anyway  :lol:

That is a good question...

Of course, when my Paris (ew) is up, it will be free. Which beats a pay Paris (? another one of those ew comments) any day. And my Paris is not patented (?!)

In other news, I'm waiting for another Queen of Evil contest to enter her in.

That second picture of your Paris looks better than the real Paris.

Removed Dr Pixel from the Booty.

Ew, this is sad. I wonder how many other free creators are going to sell themselves to TSR :?

Everyone made a Paris sim at least once in their lives (http://www.simplystella.com/icons/asd.gif)

Btw, what is exactly a Select Artist?

Hmm, it appears to be even suckier than usual today...all I'm getting is one page with a TSR logo at the top.  Wonder if something else destroyed it before we could.  O_o

Stella - a Select Artist is in between FAs and regular schmoes.  Thye have uploads of high quality but 'not at FA level'...

Basically, FAs in waiting.

Basically, free milking cows who will keep up high quality content just to get noticed maybe in a blue moon, luring people over to TSR, for absolutely free!

Which brings us to people like  this girl. (http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/clcny20/)
TSR won't make me an FA so I'm making my own paysite! (http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/clcny20/blog/#blog_2561)

That is so sad. I looked at her meshes and they just appear to be conversions of Maxis meshes for different ages/genders... and only $3? Let's not go crazy with the price??  :lol: How amusing.

I was searching the residential lots at TSR and ran across one made by "lyriclee"...Hmmmm...I said...I wonder if this is THE lyriclee.
So, I checked out her profile, but since I don't know much about her except for what you guys have said, check this out and let me know if its her.
http://www.thesimsresource.com/profiles/328820/

That would be her.

Yup,
and here I was, thinking Exnem sims was such a lovely place for *friends* to hang out and upload stuff.

Yay people, just to let you know, you made it, due to this thread TSR has an artist less. I don't know i anyone of you ever noticed me over there, my nickname is *bliss.* there, and i have been submitting to TSR since 2005, for the incentives in the first place, but as well as i considered the TSR submitting system to be easier than MTS'. I've lurked here for weeks now, and finally decided, I will never upload anything to TSR. I'm almost ashamed that i ever did  :lol: ...
Well, what really bothers me about TSR and I think it hasn't yet been said here or I simply forgot it, sorry if so, is the Kudos System. Why do you get Kudos for thanking people for stuff you didn't even download? Yes, you can even click the *Thank the Artist*-thingy if you aren't able to download the stuff you say thanks for, as it's subscriber content and you are no subscriber.  TSR wants that people thank the artists to be rewarded by Kudos and not for the quality of the downloads? Eww, this site is really making me sick.
As well getting Kudos for commenting on stuff is a horrible idea, I get like 20 new comments per week and more than half of them are just people who were so clever to copy and paste: "Nice!!!" several times ....  :?
Oh and how did Slice get SA?  :x

I must admit I have a TSR-membership. I enjoy myself with posting screenshots there, although I agree a lot of useless people post useless comments just to achieve kudo's.

FA Chazdesigns has a lot of 'nice'-looking stuff, but unfortunately his stuff looks terribly textured when loaded into the game. There are a lot of pretty good designers over there (like Icedmango, Cashcraft) and I enjoy my membership.

I refuse to post thanks if I have to pay for it. I religiously post Thanks at MTS2, for everything I download, but I won't post it to someone who supports the evil empire.

I agree with you there.
The kudo system suck  :roll:  
I stopped submitting there too, I might submit something again since the incentives can be pretty nifty, but I agree.. the copy and paste comments are stomach turning, especially after getting more than 30 a day ":rah: :rah:" "ooh!" "thank you!", poor FA's  :roll:  they probably will die by the asskissers they have  :lol:

Thanks :)

I ditto to this.
The worse thing is that lot of people probably thinks that a pay creator deserves thanks and support more then a free one.
And btw I love your avvie. So Rose-hairs (http://www.simplystella.com/icons/asd.gif)

The guy running this site must have money falling out of his ass. You'd think that he could at least run it right. I just read the list of known bugs. I am encountering stupid shit like crazy. What the hell does this guy do? A lot of the time this site could be better run by 12 year old kids.

i don't have a membership, but i've uploaded clothing and screenshots over there. i was just looking through the free clothes and realized how much i HATE when people make a shitty outfit, then recolor it 10 times. :evil:

The one question I have is who photoskins hair? Chaz's meshes are fine... I have friggin' retexture them. Grr...

Speaking of him, what happened to his uploads at MTS2? Does anyone have them? *runs off to SFV* Bleh.

I go to TSR and download the free stuff (and of course the FA downloads in the booty), but I'd never pay for a subscription.  I don't believe in paying for a pixelated product.  I think the FAs have some great downloads, it just bothers me that pretty much everything good at the site is pay.   About Chaz's hair - I was always so disappointed when, after waiting for so long for ChazDesign's hair sets to be in the free section, I put them in my game and they looked like crap.  :(  I thought it was something wrong with my computer, but other people commented that they looked bad, too.   The meshes are pretty good, but no one ever seems to make good retextures.  I'd love to see your retextures, flyingpigeon.   :wink:


Julie =)

I love the fact that they don't respond when you don't say something positive about what was created.  While I still had a sub at TSR, I downloaded one of Chaz's hair that had just been released.  Binned it myself (because I never trust it when people say they did it themselves).Opened up bodyshop and checked out the blond recolour and noticed the inside of the hair was jet black, just like the black color.  So of course, I think I'll get a response about it when I left a message in his guest book (around the beginning of Jan) regarding the 'miscoloring'...yeah, no response yet...Talk about quality and customer service :x

I got banned from TSR for sending private messages to all the featured creators with a link to this site, including Thomas.  :)

well I got my mini site and SA deleted because someone from this site donated to a site that I was asked to upload to. They dont like connections to here no matter how obscure they may be.

of course I also got thrown out because Atwa's a lying bitch stalker, but that's another story.

Love your avitar, do you have an Atwa version?

here's my avatar! haha!

lol thats funny !

CleopAtwa the Pirate? Priceless!

I keep meaning to change my av to "Brad Hamilton" in his pirate suit from "Fast Times At Ridgemont High". It's goofy.

OT: Did you guys hear they think they may have found Blackbeard's sunken ship (Queen Anne's Revenge, I think)? http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/qar/

Here's something I found amusing ...

my friend sent me this today, I have no idea what forum it came from, but I will ask

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/2572/nitmf9.png

as you can see in the screen, atwa is now calling herself NitNIt, the reason for this she claims is



Sorry to burst your bubble Nit, coming from england myself, I know that the name anita, is actually also an english name, and even english people with the worst speech impediments have no trouble pronouncing it.

However the term NIT in an english term to discribe a dumbass, or an idiot, naming her nit twice, would imply she's a double idiot. Nit is also a term to discribe a parasite, an egg of a parasite, or blood sucking louse ..so draw your own conclusions.

a nit is not 'cute' in fact it's quite ugly, although anita has always had problems distinguishing the difference.

http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/articles/louse.html

That's hilarious :lol: Well guess I can call her dumbass and she wont get it huh? Thanks for posting this Sherrie

Wow - I would never have thought to shorten Anita to Nit...  maybe Nita, but never Nit. (or NitNit)

Maybe she thought they said NitNit when they were really calling her a Nitwit?

Maybe they were actually calling her Neetneet. I do prefer Nitnit.

I've heard her called a lot of things, but neet (neat) is not one them!

maybe they should call her nit nurse.

*snickers* That girl really is a louse. She sucks people dry! That's why I bet they named her that, poor soul. No, wait, not poor soul, she deserves it! :twisted:

And yeah, Anita is probably one of the easiest names to say. I'd have shorted it to Nita or Annie though...

I'll probably be beaten for not having read all 26 pages of this topic before posting, but I've got a question.

Why isn't NeptuneSuzy in the booty? or am I missing her?


*bows down and prepares for her beating*

She's not up yet. But she will be.

I just found  this  (http://forums.thesimsresource.com/showthread.php?p=3393641#post3393641) ...and its..interesting. Am guessing the forum they are referring to is this one...

edit: its interesting what you find on TSR...

 TSR sharing your PayPal User Name  (http://forums.thesimsresource.com/showthread.php?t=323865)

I saw that a couple of days ago too - I wonder who did that?  Surely someone would have told us and laughed about it?

all strange things going on in their forum recently, I got this mail the other day....



that's not my ip.... I thought maybe it had something to do with this conversation I had on YIM at the very start of my 'problems'


Anita (2/18/2007 8:32:04 PM): have you got many submissions then uploaded?
Anita (2/18/2007 8:32:12 PM): not approved
sherrie_sim (2/18/2007 8:32:27 PM): i had 6 refused didnt bother uploading the other 4 sets
Anita (2/18/2007 8:32:48 PM): are they still in the rejection area
sherrie_sim (2/18/2007 8:33:00 PM): yes, I'll clear them later
Anita (2/18/2007 8:33:27 PM): do you mind if i log into your account and have a look ? T has asked me log into your account and take a look
sherrie_sim (2/18/2007 8:33:34 PM): not at all
Anita (2/18/2007 8:33:48 PM): you have to give me your inlog and password
sherrie_sim (2/18/2007 8:33:55 PM): {edited}
Anita (2/18/2007 8:34:41 PM): is that the username
sherrie_sim (2/18/2007 8:34:49 PM): sorry, no the pass
sherrie_sim (2/18/2007 8:34:56 PM): the user is my e mail
Anita (2/18/2007 8:35:00 PM): ok
sherrie_sim (2/18/2007 8:35:06 PM): sherrie_sim@yahoo.com
Anita (2/18/2007 8:36:47 PM): just looking now
sherrie_sim (2/18/2007 8:36:50 PM): ok
sherrie_sim (2/18/2007 8:37:04 PM): did u log in ok? I usually have problems
Anita (2/18/2007 8:37:19 PM): no log in went fine
sherrie_sim (2/18/2007 8:37:32 PM): i have to use the other form all
day

Anita (2/18/2007 8:43:29 PM): ok i have logged oout now.. i took a screen of the rejected page..
sherrie_sim (2/18/2007 8:43:37 PM): ok
Anita (2/18/2007 8:44:00 PM): i´ll show it to thomas, so he´ll see what it was
sherrie_sim (2/18/2007 8:44:25 PM): ok

it was at that point I thought could she have just asked me to take the screen?

of course I have now changed my pass, but did it take her 5 attempts before she realised that? LOL

uhmm...... i found this site 2 days ago. and when i read all the thread im so surprised!!

haha! and the booty directory!!! i said to myself "WHAT THE FUCK THESE CREATIONS ARE

HERE????" so i download every single items you have! haha!

Note: I dont download Atwa/Anita's Creation. They sucks and they look like a  shit in a

dessert! I hate her! Shes the biggest asshole turned mom in the community!

anyway! thanks guys for enlightening me...:) :D
Im an avid submitter at TSR, but when i found this site. (yes i added this in my favorites!)

i said to myself that i will not anymore submit my creations there! I have one of the most

nicest clothes there! I dont want to name myself coz i will be banned there. If you want to

know me...PM me! haha!

Well.... can someone help me to build my own site?? a free site of course!




-------------------------------------------------:arrow: I Love Here! :D

surely you mean 7 days ago when you joined here?




actually she's no ones mom, she's a bitter old hag who lives on her own and never married.

it's great news you want to start your own site, if you do, you will never look back, I used to think that the TSR community was big before I got out, now I see that they are a small zit on the face of a much larger and friendly community.

I have sent you a link that may help you, when starting your new site  :D

Ooh! Are you a select artist? :D

:roll:

That is quite disturbing, but sadly I'm not surprised.

Aww! Go on, do tell. You know you're dying to :P

I know, I know , but I'm not telling   :lol:  :lol:  :twisted:

Oh! You spoilsport! :P

*Emma moons sherrie_sim

AHH my eyes   :oops:

what I can say is that this person is a very talented prominant member who talents are wasted on TSR

I have just been over to TSR forums (puke) as I need to check on some info for Seasons ...

AND

noticed that atwa's title is now Artist Manager and my, my...she is promoting it all the way isn't it...using a TSR email addy and putting that banner there as her signature on the forums and the blogs. It makes me sick.  

I wonder if she has a private life away from her TSR Artist Manager Status??!  :roll:

Pm me, I want to know. I'll never tell anyone, cross my heart :lol:

[edit] NVM I just checked my inbox, and you already have! Silly me :P Thanks Sherrie :D

Hope enalya (I assume it´s Enayla) wont become FA.
http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/enalya/

http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/enayla/

blog:
http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/enalya/blog/

http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/enayla/blog/

Aww. I love Enayla's skins, and I must say that the art on her homepage is some of the best I've ever seen in terms of fantasy art (I adore her zombie painting). I'd be extremely sad to see her turn into a FA over there :(

Uh, isn't the motto of TSR something like, "We own your soul!"  Even if she did decide to leave, who says her creations would ever be removed?

I like Enayla's skins quite a bit, but from an artistic appreciation point of view. (She's a fantastic artist.)  Generally in practice, they make sims look way too shiny, and I always have the urge to edit out the beauty marks on some of them.  (I'll stick to the Lin edits of Louis skins, thanks, for my normal simming needs.)

I love her skins too - and she has in her TOS no paysites - so you would think she is against them.  

However, while she has promised TSR multitudes, she's actually uploaded them to MTS2 and Insim already - so I think it's fine.  She may just want a bit more exposure, and as she writes in her blog - she used to go there a lot and like the forum atmosphere.

Can I have another hint? *very nosy* :(

I really hope that she doesn't start submitting there exclusively. I bet Thomas is just creaming over this though, and I bet you anything that he's offering her the world, if she were to become an FA.

pssst red if you wanna know PM, that was the offer put on the table ;)

I am almost certain he is. I know he's done this before and I must say he can be VERY persuasive, and generous with his offers when he really wants someone.
I hope Enayla rises above the temptation of some money from a game; she is a real artist who I assume makes a living at least partially off her art. I'd be very bummed if she became FA, I use her skins (the non fantasy one mostly) almost exclusively.

EXACTLY! ...that's what she's been like since she got the position, from day one, she was looking down her nose, making demands and generally telling us all who was the boss in no uncertain terms another word to discribe her is 'condecending' for example: (condecending parts in bold)

Anita (2/5/2007 9:55:36 PM): how are you? i have had a bit of a bad moment again... is it never going to stop..
sherrie_sim (2/5/2007 9:55:50 PM): why what's up?
Anita (2/5/2007 9:57:14 PM): it´s the business with Sue I had during the weekend... I was being nice and PMd her and it all went wrong and I had a  with Thomas and sent him a sarcastic Pm and so on..
Anita (2/5/2007 9:57:48 PM): but we have kissed and mede up so it´s not a problem anymore
sherrie_sim (2/5/2007 9:57:50 PM): what with sue and the weekend ??
Anita (2/5/2007 10:00:09 PM): I asked how she had been doing as I hadn´t heard from her for over a week, Then I also asked her if she had had any of the FAs contacting her for help as I have had several from "My artists" and I also told her I had replied in the FA forum as a member helping another member about stuff I knew.. so she woouldn´t think I took over her territory..
Anita (2/5/2007 10:00:37 PM): but she of course had to missunderstand
sherrie_sim (2/5/2007 10:00:40 PM): sue, as in cyclone?
Anita (2/5/2007 10:00:45 PM): yeah
Anita (2/5/2007 10:01:59 PM): she thought I had answer in her place and I didn´t need that, she had just been away for a couple of days.. to long to explain..
Anita (2/5/2007 10:02:21 PM): anyway, she also said that we should not have been starting our jobs yet.
Anita (2/5/2007 10:04:46 PM): she said thomas never said we should start.. well, he told me that when he announced us it was the start... I also mail the guys, and she said no you shouldn´t do that, Thomas never said so.. *sigh*... they told me to mail them,.. everything went wrong and then she alo said that she asked t about the support system not being ready and we should wait for that. another *sigh*

so basically atwa is manager of SA and sue is manager of FA, anita went to sue and said in a condisending manner "Then I also asked her if she had had any of the FAs contacting her for help as I have had several from "My artists" in other words she was asking sue if she had as many sheep as anita has, when sue tried to put her ego back into perspective, anita got on her im and tried to play the victim (hence the "sighs") and make sue look bad to everyone.

[further down the LONG LONG PM]

Anita (2/5/2007 10:20:29 PM): so he went online and we talked again and this time he had to calm me down... so I felt better. He said I had the bigger responsability and he does have faith in me.. and he also said that he wasn´t angry at me.... for writing like I had...
sherrie_sim (2/5/2007 10:21:25 PM): he seems a nice guy
Anita (2/5/2007 10:22:31 PM): he really is, someone you want to hug all the time... I had done what I was supposed to and Sue doesn´t really know what I do.. I PMd her and said i had talked to him and all was fine on my side.. but she never replied in that

and Sue doesn´t really know what I do.. again hinting that her job is somehow higher than sues...condecending.


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Hmm shall I send her a nasty Pm now or later? lol I shall now refer to her as Le Bitch.

Oh yea and thanks for satisfying my nosiness sherrie :D

Well my nosieness is satisified :)

Thats two good artists ('PutanginaMo' and Sherrie_Sim) escaping TSR's clutchers.  Well done :D

We will destroy TSR!!!  :evil:

thanks!! CaptainJojoba!

well, as of now i have reieved so muh help from you guys about building a new site. Thank you very much!
But i need more resources about making new site.. about the FTP, and all that!

Please help me, So i can finished my business w/ this and to TSR!
speCially you THOMAS and you ATWA! Go buried yourself together w/ your Dried CreatioNs!


thanks!!!!!!

Im so happy to be Here! :D  :D

You still have alot to prove, you could still be another little spy like The T or mister Tea or whatever the heck he calls himself.

I'm curious to know who PutanginaMo is at TSR too :)

Why would TSR need a spy? Anyone can come here and read pretty much everything that goes on here. There are no behind-the-scenes machinations going on like over there.

Atwa... needs to just stfu and go away. I'm already tired of her, and I've never had to deal with her personally. Between her swelled head from her undeserved FA status and the power trip from being an "Artist Manager", I'd love someone to just run her over with a truck. All that nonsense about Sue and how she doesn't know what she's doing is just stupid. It's inconceivable to me that someone as shallow, snotty and untalented as Atwa could even be in the same category as CycloneSue anyway.

I'm starting to feel left out though, Thomas has never asked me to be a FA. I want to be able to tell him to go suck my dick too :(

*note:
Liegenschonheit is female and does not actually have a dick or any of the accompanying paraphernalia.

I'm not that willing to trust every person that comes around and says: "I hate paysites lolz", just because they say so. I've had the experience that that doesn't mean anything. People can turn on you like *that* if it suits their purposes. Not that it matters here on this forum, but everyone knows allmost everyone on the internetz is insane and kills kittens and tweety birds!!!
 :?  :?

:shock:  no killing of the tweety birds!!!!!!  DEATH TO ALL THOSE NASTY BUGGERS!

It happened to MY tweety! Beware! Beware!

wouldnt enayla know how to spell her own username by now considering she's been using it in the art community for ages before the sims? The only thing up there at tsr is a few wallpapers from two years ago but they made her a select artist lol
Anyways, if it is really her account it would seem more like "doing it for the free day" than anything else, and like what was already said--she has discovered mts2 and insim since then and has shared her wonderful work there instead of at evil tsr, so it would seem that no matter how much he offers her, her answer is no.

PutanginaMo--if you want resources on how to set up a new sims site, check MySimSite (http://mysimsite.net) or FFSS. This site is more about destroying paysites than setting up free ones.

Im not a spy. :!:



Thanks! for helping me to start a new site...

I really hope so. It really is such an unpleasant surprise to see her there. But I'm wondering what made her join TSR in the first place when she's got her own space in Modthesims2 and insim. Hopefully she'll resist whatever temptations Thomas has to offer.

Well, she hasn't joined it, per se.  Plenty of respectable free artists post there and at MTS2 or their own sites - our Nouk included.

I'd like to think that Enayla is savvy enough not be seduced by FA status.  However, if she was, big things might come of it.  Everyone uses her skins, and if they became pay, it might overthrow the paysite movement once and for all.

Unlikely though.

No she wont become an FA, at the most an SA. Why? Because she uploads to MTS2 and The InSim and its free to download there. The only way they would make her an FA is if she stopped uploading elsewhere - and whens that going to happen?!  :roll:  

Linda (Enayla) is a lovely person and likes sharing her skins with everyone - and she likes MTS2 a lot. Not very good reasons, but you get what I mean.

Basicly, I doubt she'd leave those sites for TSR


...*fingers crossed*...

Well with the mispelled user name, I'm thinking someone is pretending to be her. I really doubt she'll fall for Thomas' BS. She is an actual artist, not just a drama queen type sims creator.

where can i find a free webhosting? as in FREE!

http://fsphost.com

http://cabspace.com

http://freehostia.com

Free, and no ads and a pretty good amount of bandwidth and space.

PutanginaMo--you have already been given links on stuff like that from several people. if you need more help, ask over there!
free webhosting blows ass anyways and is not ideal for sites with downloads on them, most end up using it temporarily until they can find a good cheap webhost, or they end up closing or reducing the amount of content available.

Anyways, she is already a SA there, they probably made her one when they saw all her skintones and thomas was trying to convince her to start uploading more there and become an FA. It makes me kinda feel bad for people who spend months or years uploading consistently to TSR and never become an SA, considering Enayla's account (which may not even be her) uploaded a handful of wallpapers 2 years ago and is still an SA lol

I looked at the "Enalya" account to see if there was anything new posted-- like, perhaps "okay I'm not really her it was ALL LIES"-- and found that the minisite was gone! Yay! "It must have been a fake that was deleted!", I thought.

But, no luck: the account name was changed to "Enayla", and everything is still there.
I believe this does not bode well!

Well, maybe she won't be posting things exclusively? Oh, well. It's not that important when it comes down to it, but it is a little disappointing.

that is probably because atwa or some other tsr person read the thread and realized we were doubting it was her due to the spelling error and fixed it. Doesnt mean that it's her, and it doesnt mean that if it is her, that she supports tsr since she still hasnt uploaded anything there (after she found mts2/insim i mean)
It's nice to know they are religiously reading this thread though

Oh... .. Im so happy they'r reading this wonderful thread! Hi Atwa! haha! :D

Well, Atwa & Thomas (i know ur reading this!) examine this thread, many people post here about your wonderful conscience of making money over the custom contents of others. Well that's how we love you!

But as always... those wonderful creations (except to your creations ATWA) will be delivered to the BOOTY Directory. :shock:  haha!

Thanks! Just keep making wonderful CC. haha!

God! What kind of loser lacks a life so much that they'd make an account under someone else's name? If, of course, that's what's going on.

*eyerolls so hard I get a headache*

I vote that we set this to "ignore" until we actually have some facts to back up the speculation, because to do otherwise feeds someone's desperate need for attention and validation.

Note to identity-smurfing trolls: please do something more useful, such as shutting down your computer and getting laid, reading a book, talking to other humans with your vocal cords not via typing, going for a walk, etc.

I've PM'd her (Enayla) asking if it is her account :) Will let you know if she replies

I don't know if anyone has read her TSR guestbook, but as of yesterday, there were two entries.  One of which, stated what everyone else is thinking, that she would likely soon be made an FA, given her talent and reputation, and how sad that would be (for the community) if that happened.  Basically, the gist of the message was, please don't go pay.

I checked on it today, wondering if there may have possibly been a reply, or maybe even more entries echoing those statements.  Alas, not only were there no additional entries, but the one mentioned above is now gone.  No, stupid me did not take a screencap.  So, either Enayla deleted the message, or the simpering TSR powers that be, deleted it.

On top of that, another announcement was made today regarding new Select Artists.  Enayla was not on that list, yet she's still listed on the Select Artist page.

All I know, is that I would really be sad if she becomes an FA.

Thats something I find very odd. Shes down as a SA but it wasnt announced...wtf?!

I am awfully suspicious of this.

And if they did make her FA, she doesnt have to stay there. She could just stop uploading to TSR  - got her InSim area and MTS2 account - AND theres the fact that all she's uploaded so far are some walls

I just dont think its her to be honest  :roll:

eta: anyone seen the comment from Mirablu in her blog? Pirate cookie for her!

Hmmm. I really don't think it's her. It's all quite peculiar. I know she's been ill lately, hard to believe she'd put out the effort to post over at TSR.  She doesn't do walls anyway and some of her links led to discontinued pages and the exchange. She hasn't ever posted at the exchange to my knowledge, though other people have posted her stuff there.

Actually she did. I recognized those walls, they're the same ones she made during the early Sim 2 days. In fact, they were her first uploaded CC at MTS2 , but she probably took them down or something since it isn't there anymore, just like the dress she made using Sussi's mesh.

I suppose all will be clarified once she replies CaptainJojoba's PM. *is crossing fingers for good news*

how i wish shes not what we think. well, well, well....... lets wait for her reply on Captainjojoba

Was this the message in question? It was one on the blog instead of the guestbook.



Now, what was this about the dress on Sussi's mesh? I think I've seen that dress on a few of her pictures, and I've been quite enamored of it. (Or is it enamored with it?)

I'm fairly certain it's her, now, though: look at her posts. She posted images in them that are uploaded to her web site, Furiae. Unless this person is a stalker who leaped on the images and posted them at TSR after they were posted at some other site-- before she had made waves as far as the "Sim-community" goes-- then, uh... well...
Actually, that sounds about par for the internet-course.

But still!
Still!

She uploaded 2 dresses a long time ago in MTS2. Same design, one was blue, another maroon. It used Sussi's Victorian: Gibson Girl mesh. And after a bit of "detective tracking", I found the link. I thought she removed them since it didn't turn up in her profile.  

http://modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=66191

I suppose her walls are still somewhere in MTS2 too.

So why would she upload her older, lesser-quality, less well-known stuff there? Less than a month ago, she uploaded an amazing pixie skin set on MTS2 & Insim. Seems to me that as an artist, she'd want to put her best quality up rather than the lowest quality.

Bet her ancient dollface skintone pops up there next.  :roll:

edited rather than double posting:
She has a grand total of 9 forum posts, the first was in Oct 18, 2004; the most recent was April 28, 2005.

So 2 years without activity and now she's getting back over there? No mention of her serious RL illness which she talks about in both her MTS2 and Insim posts?

Could it even be one of the mods at TSR (ATWA, Thomas...) ...

BTW, she may not respond to the PM. She gets thousands and probably ignores most of them just to save her sanity.

She hardly goes on unless to upload...so if I get a reply it wont be for donkey years. And I dont have one yet btw

I dont want to jump to conlcusions..I could be wrong, I could be a fool...

....But I dont think its her.

REALLY REALLY dont at all  :x

And some of you guys have metioned her illness and I completely agree - theres no mention of that at all on 'her' blog, and why the feck would she suddenly make all this effort for TSR?!!!

A stalker has made it you reckon?!  :lol: Well anythings possible. But I would have thought a stalker would know how to spell her name

Blergh this whole thing stinks. Only TSR would have this kind of stuff

Enayla's walls:

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=33482

double post

From here (http://forums.sims2community.com/showpost.php?p=814420&postcount=1989), Enayla herself says:

So this isn't the realy Enayla? or how ever you spell her name?

That's really great to hear.
I'm also fairly sure it's the real Enayla at TSR. For one, the girl in the avatar looks like her, and it's nicely made with the  "furiae" tag. And the banner with the models, those skins they have, they don't look like any of the ones she had uploaded before, yet they do look like they've been done by her. I know, they're still weak points, but after reading what she just posted about paysites, I'm starting to think she probably joined TSR and uploaded her old stuff just to shut Thomas up :lol:

I just don't think it is her. Especially after reading what she put in that thread. I'm sure Thomas offered her all kinds of money to become an FA already. She's too talented and moral for that. The original things may have been posted by her way back when. Lots of people have been suckered into that, but I don't think the recent post is her.

I could take her banners and do the exact same thing without much trouble at all. Remember until we pointed it out, the user name was "Enalya". I just don't see her as mis-spelling her own name.  :roll:

I don't think its her either. And if it is, those walls were uploaded in 2004 so I doubt the account is still in use.

I didn't believe it either until I visited the page, saw the pictures and this:




And her 1st blog entry:




What's the verdict now, cap'n?

That's not a current project. That's part of her pixie forest series, she released 2 more sets after that: Pixie-demonic and her new pixie-multitude. I'm a pretty obsessive fan of her work. :oops:

Search her name at MTS-2 and you'll find it.

I don't think she's posted pics of her new project yet, but she has mentioned it.

That site reminds me of the Stepford Wives.  Does a new TSR artist get extra money if they write some swimmy-eyed mushy nonsense about it?

Well I dunno, but it was posted on the 15th March 2007. *shrugs* I don't follow Enayla because I don't like her stuff, so it's no bother to me. But I don't like you all being sad over it.

Okay, having read the latest posts here http://forums.sims2community.com/showthread.php?p=814667, it seems it was Enayla on TSR, who thankfully appears to have had a change of heart:



And:



*is happy*

OK, so it was her originally, but it sounds like it all worked out for the best.

Well I'm glad!
Poor doll though, for not knowing the Evil Truth about Tosserville...

Its kind of funny that she didn't know. She must really not be into the community that much :lol: . I'm glad she pulled the rest of her stuff. Thomas has to be pissed right about now. I would say "Poor Thomas" but I don't really care for him that much :)

I thought everyone knew that Thomas was a tosser  :roll:

Woot, even better news to hear! So glad she got saved from the evil TSR!

Can't blame her for being in the dark about Thomas and his crew since she's hardly into the "politics". She's just taking the whole Sim stuff as a hobby, as it should be. Besides, she's a real digital artist. She's got lot more things to look into other than Sims.

Seriously, the Sims is the only one game I know of that has caused insanity and grief within the community (let's not count MMORPG though :P). I never expected to find dirty secrets like used jock straps, crazy integrities, drama and paranoia from mods, etc. I bet EA never saw this coming. They're either pulling at their hair in frustration, or laughing at all the drama, wondering how could a harmless game caused so much mess :shock:

I'm just waiting for the next big atrocity to happen.  :roll:

Well I'm happy  :P its all worked out merry in the end

Xeon, you forgot faked suicides. And pretenses to be fed up and coming back under the guise of someone else. 8)  :lol:

You forgot:

Oh mah ghod, mah boy hairz iz NEVAR to be used on wimmenz!!!!eleventy!!11!
*spaz froth flail weep moan bitch*


People are crazy.

poor thomas! your a LOSER!

Is it just me or has Enayla been demoted from SA & had her minisite stripped down to a normal profile since canceling her uploads?

They sure do know how to throw a tantrum over there don't they  :roll:



Lorelei thats the funniest thing I'v read all week :D

Yay! I should know that not browsing this forum for some time did result in missing the drama.
I'm sooooo happy with Enayla statements I could dance!

*dances*

ROFL!
Poor Enayla...sorta...^^^^
They do, you're right. Tantrum ahoy!

Hahaha they have as well!! *points and laughs at TSR*

Oooh it says on Enayla's page she listens to heavy metal! \m/ Rock on!!

*points and laughs at TSR again*

Sheesh! Enayla is way out of their class level.  :roll:

TSR keeps finding new ways to express their suckiness and evil.  :evil:

it's what you call snatching your toys back when your friend doesn't play ball  :roll:

its what Thomas and the wrinkled one do when the artists dont kiss their ass enough for the day. its the only way they can pretend to have some control  :roll:

Operative word being pretend. :wink:  :lol:

I was trying to check out Thomas' blog and guestbook and whatnot but when I go to look at it i get an error message saying he doesn't exist . . . maybe he IS just a clone slug . . .


see ---> http://www.thesimsresource.com/staff/Thomas%7CTSR/guestbook/


you get this -->  No such minisite owner - 'Thomas%7CTSR'!

I get it too. Alot of the times tsr pages come up with 'Doh' What the?

maybe atwa had his mini site removed too  :lol:



try this http://www.thesimsresource.com/staff/Thomas|TSR/

 (copy WHOLE link into browser - hotlink not working)

Still nothing. He's pisadeared.

If you remove his name from the link it goes to the staff page...unfortunately his minisite is still there   :(

Nope he is still there...and theres a random petbowl for atwa on his page! wooo! :lol:

And the link is http://www.thesimsresource.com/staff/Thomas|TSR , but from some reason it wont link properly. meh

WTF is with that bowl!! Egyptian pet bowl my arse!!

:lol: Exactly what I thought...well you never know, it could be for Atwa..she is Thomas's pet after all..

or thomas IS atwa....


http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/6646/tosserra5.png

 :lol:  :lol:

Now that would be interesting!!

More likely the other way around; Nit is Tosserboy. No, that's wrong, um...

Wait wait wait. The punctuation is confusing me.
Do you think Thomas is actually Anita in disguise or Anita is Thomas in disguise?

Because it's more likely Anita is in charge. ^^

Except that's quite a sad thought...

 :lol:  :lol:

That is so wrong!

You know this one time when I was little I fell off of my grandmother's porch. It hurt real bad I landed on a stick that got stuck in my foot. I cried. But when I saw this...I cried more :(

Y'know, there are other things that piss me off with TSR (or 'ToSseR)
apart from the usual stuff like it's a paysite, it treats it artists like crap, it allows bitches like atwat to decide who gets thrown out, they are control freaks, Thomas wears lip liner in his profile, they steal your work, and did I mention the lip liner?

here's some other pet hates I didnt mention earlier:

Artists who wish to remain FREE can still end up having their items as PAY, for example: 'freeartist' decides she is going to be free, she makes a lot of effort by refusing FA status, and only recolours the free meshes, by 'freemeshartist'. she also makes lots, but is careful not to use FA content and thus remains free. Tosser comes along and makes the 'freemeshartist' FA and  locks all the meshes as pay, this means that 'freeartist' has her files incomplete and people have to pay to use the mesh, to make her files work. her lots are also moved to the pay only section so technically her items are now pay, even though when she made them, it was on the understanding that her items would be totally free.
anyone uploading to TSR should think of this before uploading lots or using meshes

Another annoying thing is the excuses they use for being a paysite, we all know that they make a fortune (proof of that is in the pictures of Pers apartment that atwa was mailing round - a huge and expensive apartment with a grand piano, and an expensive price tag) but of course they tell us that the money all goes in bandwidth and disc space. well according to atwa, they are on unlimited bandwidth, but do use a huge amount of disc space which is where all the money is supposed to go (yeah right) but if that were true it would make simple sense to cut the amount of space used by removing all old files that are years old, and all the files that are hosted without permission, but of course Thomas won't do that because he wants the largest sim file database on the net, but he doesn't want to pay for it, so he wants US to pay for HIS ego trip...nice

anyone uploading or subscribing should think of this carefully, do you want to work for free to create content for some greedy bastard to sell? or would you prefer to just subscribe and give the greedy bastard the money direct, he can use this money to keep himself and his staff in luxury houses/appartments and to make his dream of 'the biggest site of old files' come true.  he can also afford to go out of town once a week for a massage ....can you afford that?

Isn't there someone more important than Thomas TOSSER on there??? I thought there was!

I have a subscription to TSR which is about to run out. I am one of those suckers who signed up for a whole year. I downloaded pretty much everything I'd want that first day. Between piss-poor additions to the FA pool (which started with Buntah and have had other lovely highlights in Atma and Lianaa and STP Carly--- let's not forget Juttaponath) and changes that make the site a pool of sewer-shit for non-members, I've had it. Had it. Doesn't help much that, as someone who submitted myself, I had very little support from them when my one big community lot hotel submission went poof. I didn't submit enough to count, apparently, since I value quality above quantity.

I'd no idea the FA's were paid. No way in hell do I want even one penny of mine to go to the likes of Juttaponath and the ginormous ball of suckage she calls her creations.

Glad I found ya'll and your lovely loaded booty.

Does anyone know how much they get paid?

Did we say already? Doesn't it depend on how much bollocks they post, and then it goes up in hundreds, doesn't it?

Its like 300 dollars or something. We've had this discussion before.

I know atwa is paid $10 for every 10,000 downloads - (so I doubt she's made over $1 yet)

she had found out from a former FA and former friend that they are paid in 'the hundreds', her greedy little eyes lit up and she started to ass kiss Thomas real fast, she approached him on the subject and he told her that Fa's were not paid that amount, and made her an FA with piss pay to demonstrate that! (LMAO)

In reality there are 4 steps of pay for the FA's at TSR, I do have the amounts somewhere in my mailbox for each 'step' I'll dig them out later and edit this post with them.

EDIT: cant find the 'pay step' mail just now, but heres one from 23rd november, however I think this mail was greatly exaggerated as it was used to start 'the ratings war' rebellion during late nov/december.






hey atwa, does this post mean I get another death threat from you in my guest book ?.....oooh goodie, you are sooo brave  :P )

I just thought I'd throw this out here, see if anyone has an answer for this.  Why, exactly, are some of Shoukier's sets still pay?  Yes, once upon a time she was an FA, then became an SA.  All sets released since she became SA are free, however, sets released while she was an FA are still being held hostage.  I was under the impression that if someone "steps down" to SA status (ala Dr. Pixel, Grizzelda)  all their uploads become free.  Am I wrong?  Either way, it irks me immensely, especially since there are a few things I'd like to have.

The reasoning behind this is probably that the person has 'sold' those items to TSR and still recieves money for those.

the payment is from 10 bucks for 10.000 with 250 max, to fixed wages up to 500 dollars, depending on what an artist can do. Maybe more if the artist is worth it.

the max was increased to $500 early this year.

I saw that and I loved the way you handled it :lol: They must be scared shitless!

yea I deleted most of them and banned most of her ip's so she sent some of her little 'wannabe FA' friends, soooo I decided to leave up the last one and type some reports!  :twisted:

Well I really like your site and those comments are amusing rather then threatening :lol: TSR is a little sore at losing you? Maybe atwa is messing with you because she knows she made  a mistake and thomas is chewing her out for it?

I doubt it, they didnt like me very much since I turned down the SA position, (after the rebellion) it shown Thom-ass I wasn't a TSR puppet. next time, he gave me the SA without asking  :P

Y'know what the most hilarious thing is? - minutes, and I mean MINUTES after I posted the "hey atwa, does this post mean I get another death threat from you " comment, my web counter picked up her ip on my site, guess she was heading straight for the guestbook again! LOL I range banned her ip off the guest book so I guess she was disappointed! for her to have seen this so quickly she must spend more time on here than we do LMAO. its really sad if she finds how ugly we find her and her creations such avid reading! She's always been more than obscessed with this place.

Well I would be, if someone posted a huge thread about me an my site XD I'd stalk you everywhere, even the moon!

That's how most women are, lol. They can't keep away if they know someone talks about them.

What most women don't do however, is leave death threats  :oops:

Wait uuuuhhh I would vote for Hilary, too, if I were an american citizen (sp?), I mean, who else...a Republican dude?...and I saw Legally Blonde, too (when I was 15).  :roll:

LOL anyway that site is funny.  :lol:

Ok . . so I couldn't sleep and I became delirous. So I did this
http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/atwa/comments/?blogID=3365

I'm not sure why. But its funny.

ROFL! Take a screenie! It might die!

EDIT: I did it. Didn't want it to go away.

On another subject: Egyptian rubbish bins. Why oh why?

And why do we want you to make a restaurant, misguided-love?

IMAO that is hilarious! Have just looked at it on your site! From 'The Big 'A''.....OMG!!111 'the big a' iz arfter u sherriiee! run!!  :lol:

Atwa should have realised that keeping your content on TSR without your permission was an excellent way to piss you off and turn you into a major pirate  :roll:

I took a screen shot as soon as I did it. I wanted to keep it for posterity.

I had a few creations on TSR and I knew there was no way to get them removed. Now I think I'll just be a pest until they remove me.

Your comment's gone already - that's quick - she must watch this like a hawk.

I should point out that I have been sooooooo backlogged on Atwa's stuff on the Booty. I think part of me is restraining me from downloading that shit. Because it is SO UGLY.

I don't think it really deserves to be up on the Booty to be honest, but that's just me...

what did I miss?




that's very true, I remember when there were posters here called ann bonny and coconut, (those names are imprinted, she never stopped talking about them) she was glued to this site. when she was at work (she's supposed to be a nurse) she spent every working hour on here while giving up to the minute reports to everyone via the TSR Pm system. Then she was offline for the 20 minutes it took her to walk home, then back on here reporting via msn. sometimes she was up all through the night and took a 'sickie' off work the following day, now thats obsessive!

it worries me when I think of all the commodes she left unemptied.

Here's for those that didnt see it ;)

(http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/281/screeniewx3.png)

And if its too unclear to read, Shotgun wrote:

ROFL!!

And the big question is, how many people have asked for it - I've seen requests for Pandora stuff (which I wouldn't even download if free) but no requests for Atwa.  Sucky much?

The same people who downloaded the Carla Niven folder possibly?!  :lol:

 No one ever downloaded the Carla Niven folder. It is kind of a shelf-warmer  :lol:

Ah thank you so much for that knowledge Gwendolyne! I can now sleep at night  :lol:

You are a meanie to poke the Atwa with a pointy stick like that.

My biggest WTF was trying to figure out how ancient Egyptians managed to acquire the technology to use photobooths.

I remember, during Sims 1, a clever creator did a whole series of era-appropriate replacements. There were scrolls instead of computers, and NPC replacements.

Oooh yes - there was one I remember - Death Eater sims - they had scrolls for computers etc.  VERY clever.  

I always wonder why the Asswa stuff has sand coloured everything - that is soooo boring.  Tutankhamun's mask isn't goddamned sand coloured - they liked their lapis lazuli, their gold, all those yummy colours - where the hell are they?  And not just lime green african knockoffs.

it's called bleeding a theme dry.

She made a couple of items on the egyptian theme, and people thought they were uumm... 'unusual' so that was it, the floodgates were open,  egyptian fridges, dishwashers, love tubs, diving boards, cookers, telephones, burgler and fire alarms...in fact any maxis item you can paint in block sand, black and yellow and paste a scarab on.

I'm so not looking forward to the maxis celebration pack, as I fear she has a egyption sand, black and yellow wedding cake planned.

she does nothing like egyptian and nothing like the FREE and UN-UGLY and credible looking egyptian sets you can get at http://www.tarox4sims2.de



DONT GIVE HER IDEAS! do you really want to see the return of her 'glowing block green' collection (example in members board - ugly creations thread) AGHHH

See, I can already think of several existing meshes that could be used that would be more accurate. Or as accurate as The Sims 2 can get without borking the game too much. Need to store food? Forget about making a fridge, make a cabinet that stores food. Dishwashers? Why not wash them in a bucket sink? Toilet? Locate it outside, and make it look like a hole in the ground inside an outhouse (or recommend making a small walled room). Love tubs? Why not make it look like a watering hole? Not that there were that many watering holes in ancient Egypt, but we can pretend to a degree. Or, if you want an inside tub, make it one of the recessed types and construct it of bricks. Diving boards? Are you kidding me? But if you must, a cyprus tree trunk. Cookers? They did have pots, and fire, so work with that. Bonfire meshes exist. Telephones? I'd accept some mysticism, such as a magic mirror or a fake NPC scribe taking a letter. Burglar alarm? An incantation or warning painted in hieroglyphics threatening plague and destruction and venegful Gods, instead. Fire alarms? Consider a bell, or a bucket of sand hung on a wall.

I'm just saying, there are ways to make an attempt to stick within your own theme. And I'm no expert on ancient Egypt, and have probably made a LOLable gaffe, but if that was one of my themes, I'd do some basic research into life during that era and adapt to it.

Photobooth? More likely you'd have some poor schmoe carving your likeness into a wall or brushing it onto a papyrus.

If you want to completely disregard the time era the Sims are geared for, perhaps you need to give up some of the modern conveniences that have no counterparts during your time period.

But that's just me. I'm picky like that.

I'd love to do a Victorian hood eventually, and what I've seen thus far done in that theme has been fairly well done, and anachronisms are handled fairly well. But because my DL folder is already exploding with downloads, I'm trying to resist the urge to start DLing Victoriana like crazy.

Luckily I also kinda like the super mod look, and don't mind decorating Victorian houses with it. That's fairly common where I'm from: retrofitting gorgeous old homes with DSL lines and modern furniture with clean lines. It actually works, because plain, simple furniture tends to highlight the architectural details of the house. A modern house with mod furniture, while fun, can be TOO stark and too bare. Not that this stopped me from making several of those, too.

It's 'AnneBonny'. The least the tacky pattern creator could do is spell my name correct. Especially if she is as obssessed with my activities as I believe her to still be to this day.  8)

---

As for Atwa sticking to her theme with stale creations that have all the appeal of a paper cut in the first place? Do not ever forget for a moment you are all speaking of an incredibly stupid person.  A person that emits more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. In other words don't expect her to come up with anything remotely intelligent. Afterall the clever ideas suggested in the previous posts actually require talent...

That's true, we were forgetting she's a political FA, not a real one.

Great to see you back posting  :D I bet all her 'friends' are switching their IM's to invisable mode as we speak...

Gee, AnneBonny, tell us how you REALLY feel. Don't hold back now!

What I do find interesting is that more and more FAs seem to be dropping off...not updating...leaving...asking for changes in status. And there seems to be an elevated sense of paranoia....as though they're about to implode.

Probably wishful thinking on my part, but I fantasize about TSR going up in a flaming ball of gas you can see from space.

well thats because they dont have time to create anything with atwa keeping IMing them every minute! ("OMG sherrie posted a clip about me quick...send her a death threat") and ("Holy shit,  AnneBonny's back...I hope she won't mention the cliff")

....but yes, I've noticed that bigtime. I think more and more of the FA's are waking up and smelling the coffee, with a lot of them going free. I'm amazed at how much support we have from former FA's.

its also unusual but very noticable that the better artists are the ones who have left, for all the efforts made by TSR to get decent calibre artists aboard, they have failed miserably, I'd go as far as to say that just in the past couple of months alone, the quality from the FA's has nosedived dramatically as the real talent jumped (and continue to jump) ship and they are left with a self obscessed scarab paster and a handful of drones.

comparing tsr now, to how it was last year, it's pretty clear to see that it's on it's way out, I think thomAss is holding out for TS3 hoping it may give them a subscriber boost like TS2 did.

There are a lot of FAs and other good artist leaving TSR, so TSR adds new SAs and FAs...but they aren't really that good or original. Its verrryy obvious..

TSR really does suck ass...I remember I looked for stuff there a while ago, and everything there was awful.  Fifty thousand recolors of the same crappy top, and it's so hard to find anything good there because they put so much sub-par shit up.  It's sorta like the exchange, but more evil.
I was upset to see that Sims2Sisters went to TSR, because I liked a couple of their hairstyles.

I'd be a rich person at the moment if I had a dollar for every instance someone un-originally commented that line. Alas it isn't to be therefore I opt to open up my own paysite(blargh). AnneBonny's treasure trove complete with the poke your sharp sticks at Atwa section. Donate now to this worthy cause. I need to fund my hostal take over of the TSR world. It's already happening as we speak. I'm IN the private FA doors! :wink:

TSR takes quantity over quality any day. That much is apparent with the craptastic patterns and rainbow colors blinding visitors monitors with every update. It'll never change so long as morons continue downloading the sets  and subscribing to that hellhole.

sounds a great paysite, where's the paypal button? I have my credit card and sharp pointy stick at the ready!

Hey, thanks for the link. Some gorgeous stuff there.  :wink:

[quote="AnneBonny
 Do not ever forget for a moment you are all speaking of an incredibly stupid person.  A person that emits more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. In other words don't expect her to come up with anything remotely intelligent. Afterall the clever ideas suggested in the previous posts actually require talent...[/quote]

But lets not forget that stupid is, in it's own right, an art form...perhaps the only truly talented part of this woman IS her stupidity.  :wink:

*back to lurking and laughing*

I will not be suprised to see TSR be burned down. (coz its very soon).
About the FA's leaving, Select artists added. and all that.......

I have a question....... Does all the Artists and FA's in TSR know the booty directory?!?

If they know, why would they just stop submitting thier creation?


Pls. Enlighten me.!
 :idea:

hate to say "I told you so..." (released to the paying public today)

(http://isc.ibibi.com/images/scaled/w-250h-206-472986.jpg)

:shock: Atwa is really that sad?!

Yeah, but that's STILL lime green African knockoffs - not the deep rich and often garish colours used by the Egyptians.  She has so many damn things in lime green (which is my least favourite colour) - when does one see any photos of ancient Egyptian lime green?

Those sorts of colours are currently used in other African countries for dresses etc. - very popular colour there - but not in Egypt, even today.

When one wears glasses which have lime green lenses   :lol:

You don't.  But you have people, like her, that see something... be it a culture, a style, whatever... and think, "Wow, this is fantastic.  But... if only they weren't so fond of [insert something here].  Well, I can still enjoy this if I make a few minor changes.

I recall reading an HP fanfic where Hermione was a descendant of Slytherin, and a vampire, and the second she was resorted into Slytherin, changed the house colours (I think to blue and black).  I remember thinking, WTF!?

Yeah, but jeez, call it Ethiopian style for Christs sake.

That's the reason I don't read HP fanfic - cause all my life I'd be going what the fuck?  I prefer semi-solid theories based in the books.

I don't know anything about lime green being particular of any culture, but I know Anita's an idiot, so I'll leave it at that.

As for HP fics, some AU can be very well done. However, stories that completely disregard JK's writing and don't call themselves AU get on my nerves.
Also, I never read any fanfic about the "Golden Trio", AU or not. I prefer reading stuff about characters you don't spend the entire time going, "You're out of character!", "You'd NEVER say that in the books!", "Wait a minute! That didn't happen!", "You're a BOY in the books!" and my personal favourite, "Er, WHO ARE YOU AND WHY ARE YOU IN THIS STORY?!"
For example, Harry gets a new girlfriend who is out of a cartoon show. Don't laugh, it happens.
It's like the complete opposite of that Josie in the Pussycats movie quote: "Why are you here?" "I'm here because I was in the comic book."

I'll shut up now, because otherwise this'll be properly WOTA. ^^

Nit wit and Ethiopian style don't go well together. I actually like that color. It doesn't seem too very bright and might look well in a room with pale yellow and green things.

Edit: Did I mean Nit Nit or was I right with Nit wit ? :wink:

That's almost as bad as her set of belly dancer outfits that showed no belly what-so-ever.

I know I am blonde.. LOL, but tsr's update today consists of the salsa bedroom which was already previously posted as I got it awhile back.
Are they that desperate they they think were all stupid and wont notice?
I am not shocked however  :roll:

i got one question for TSR, what the HELL is a "texture challenge" looks more like a "make crap challenge"

They're challenged to make anything decent with the presented textures. As you can see, they all fail.

Especially Atawta  :lol:

lol. i like the sim challenges. fun stuff.
never heard of texture challenge.

Has anyone noticed that Puresims & birgit are dumping a lot of their stuff over at TSR?  They already have minisites, and I'm sure it's only moments before they achieve FA status.  Seems to me, since the advent of the booty, their income has dwindled considerably.  Could it be, that since realizing less suckers would give them cash for items, they figure they can still get paid via TSR?  The thought is positively nauseating, yet unsurprising.  
And is it just me, or are their file sizes ginormous?  WTF?  
I do what I can to keep this thread alive, it amuses me  :D

From the hue/saturation school of recolors:

http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/MoMama/downloads/free/sims2/objects/

I saw that today and just could not bring myself to even consider downloading it. I like purple, but that is just too much.  :lol:

To my knowledge we do not kick the asses of those who see the light. Welcome to the fold, may you find lots of precious booty.  :)

Even if they ban you they won't delete your stuff. Look at poor Sherrie. Except, of course, they are still making money from her creations...hmm...

yes!

Look at SherrieSim. Her Stuffs there are used until now.

Beware! Atwa will be your Night-Mummy!


Muwaawawawawawawaw!

saffy and putanginamo are correct. they will throw you out and steal your work, the only way they will delete your work is if you begged them not to, and even then they wont if they can make money out of it. They are very posessive over other peoples work.

EDIT: I just saw your work, they wont delete that, you'll be lucky if they dont start charging people for it.

 they can still make a lot of money on your meshes alone, if their FA's recolour it.

I have thoughts.
Do you think they may start to bring in a rule where they wait until you try to quit TSR and then make you an FA and your creations pay so they can milk money out of poor souls using you as a pimp?
I hope I haven't given them ideas.
I was actually almost sure they're already doing this...

They could try. but I think the legal concequences would be dire.

 legally they are already on thin ice, I spoke to my sisters neighbour a while ago, who is a solicitor with a big legal firm, and aparantly what they are doing now is illegal and in theory they could be prosecuted by artists who's creations they stole, especially as they are using the stolen items as 'free gifts' to promote products which they charge for. they could be taken to court to remove the stolen items or for a percentage of estimated revenue gained from the advertising with the stolen items. he also looked at their 'disclaimer' and laughed. but he said that any court case would be expensive, but costs could be recovered from tsr. and it would be more advisable to go for removal, although the revenue option is still viable, it depends on how many items and how long they have been there, the money gained from that would be small, and the time limit could be lengthier on that so the initial costs could be higher. He did also mention that anyone from the uk that is on income benifits may be elligable for legal aid, which means they dont pay the court costs, but the money won for court costs from tsr would have to be paid back to legal aid. he did say a lot more but thats all I can remember. He did say to call back if I wish to pusue it, so I might ask a few more questions.

he also said that tsr IS infringing copyright with maxis/EA but it would be solely up to them to take action.

now I should imagine that if he charged for the stolen items, that would make matters worse.

The wooden computer is particularly lovely.  Adds a great touch of realism to any game.

I just need to say this about TSR:

PARANOIA WILL DESTROY YA.

Wankers.

:lol:

Aye it will.

In pink font as well!...MWAH HA HA HA

*points and laughs at TSR*

This place is so funny!  :lol:




Do I spam? I just had a look at my post count *gulp*  :shock:

oh my a wooden computer... just .. rofllmao xD

maan how i hate that site T_T i need to find a way to have my stuff deleted over there ....  any ideas that will work (unlike getting banned!?) ? uploading work of other creators maybe?

oh btw... sorry but wtf is that? (http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/482/482208.jpg)

That my dear, is a classic example of fucking ugly, or fugly as it's more commonly known! If my teen ever wore something like that, I think I would home school her ass and never let her out until she had grey hair...

That's such a waste of a semi decent texture idea.  With a bit better quality, and a different mesh?  That could make an excellent flapper-style dress.  :(

if atwata can make a lime green photo booth from the time of pharaos, why not a wooden computer?  :P
maybe it was like "oh great idea! victorian computer!"  moment?

If you do, it isn't incredibly noticable IMO.  You just talk alot!  :lol:

Random participation in an ongoing thread, with thoughts which may not be on topic since I haven't read the previous 30 some odd pages...

I hate TSR.  I wouldn't normally use such a strong word, but my feelings have not changed over the years toward that place so.. there we have it.

I have one creation up there, which I can't get removed... ts1... its called Tia.  It was uploaded six years ago, when the entire website was free.

When they announced the subscription system and started the rotation crap, I posted to the forums about wanting to remove my upload.  I never agreed to let them profit off it.  My post was deleted.  When they implemented the new website, someone created an account with my upload author name... you'd think they would have backed up the old author+email DB huh.

So my upload was in limbo, not associated to any account, not even the new Ren.  The author link pointed directly to my email address.  Sometime later, about a year I think, and after several emails, I managed to get it associated to my account, but still not removed.  I gave up, flipped the site the bird, and started my own site.  And Tia is available at my current site because TSR's policy can kiss my ass.  Their user agreement isn't legal anyway, especially when it concerns BMP files.

Lots of my texture theft issues stem from TSR too, but thats for another thread or something.

That's not "Ren" as in short for "RentechD" is it?

That's a relief... And, yes I do. You know, once I feel comfortable. Took me a couple of weeks of lurkdom to register and post but... Uh... Miss Talk-a-Lot, definitely me.

This ought to make several SA's happy.  As far as I know, SA's are not asked, they are just given SA status.  FA's are asked (right? Nouk said she was asked and turned it down).  So, if this is true, then all those SA's that were made before this announcement did not agree to anything.  But now they have rules and obligations.  


http://www.thesimsresource.com/saoverview.php

That's pretty funny.

But what''s not funny is that nobody told Atwa about this rule

So essentially, it's "KEEP POSTING! KEEP POSTING! Don't promote your own website! Don't go on holiday without telling us! YOUR MINISITE IS REALLY OUR ADVERTISING TOOL!" etc etc.

Sounds like fun. Wahey, pressure!

I find this requirement the most delicious.

yes its true, SA's are given the position without being asked, in all fairness, I have to admit I WAS ASKED, before xmas, twice, but both times I refused, so after xmas they made me SA anyway.  :roll:

There are a few rules that ATWA was unaware of :

namely

to which her reply to me at the time was:





she even lied about that, my minisite was removed along with my SA status simply because I set up my own website kindly hosted by wicked sims. (she maintained that as blue soup once made a donation to wicked sims that made them part of PMBD)

on that rule they should add : subject to atwa's approval.

Nothing like a little pressure to make you stay at TSR...  :?

Hmmm. I once made a donation to TSR, and I'm now a PMBD pirate. By this logic, TSR is part of PMBD!

Muahahahahaha!


Regarding the "is it worth losing SA status for" comment...YES!!! It's not like it was your job, for fuck's sake. Sheesh.

Ren: You're from RenSim, aren't you?  I've read that story on your site.

Ya, I'm the rensim Ren.. and I did briefly bitch about it in the file's description didn't I.  About the texture theft part anyway, not the fact I couldn't get it removed from TSR.

Okay so let me make sure I have this right... TSR is banning/closing accounts of people associated with this forum?  But they don't *actually* close down "minisites", only the creator's access to their account.  And if they don't go so far as to ban the account, they've threatened to do so?

For meerly partaking in discussion on a forum?  That's just crazy.  I feel really bad for those of you who have a large amounts of creations there and have been subjected to that kind of treatment.

Heh I don't even believe in unauthorised filesharing, but I still enjoy chatting on these forums. :)   I love drama and gossip and it's one of the few forums where you're allowed to carry on a complete and unrestricted wallow in such.

nearly right, Atwa tells people that TSR will delete an SA account but not the minisite, However they do delete the minisite.  

I wasn't thrown out for taking part in a forum discussion,merely for opening my own site, who's owner recieved a donation from someone who took part in a forum dicussion!


its also worth mentioning that people who have paid subs have also had their account deleted with NO REFUND, because Thomass SUSPECTED they have been on here or SFV. in fact I read it somewhere in the tossers TOS that they will delete a paid account with no notice if they SUSPECT you are involved in file sharing.

interesting word 'SUSPECT'- Thats basically saying that TSR has the right to hold a trial, be the judge and the jury and hand out a penilty fine.
just another instantace of the short little gnome thinking he's above the law.

Now, now. No offense to short little gnomes... Ahh, wait, the stealing is driving me nuts - carry on.

P.S. Boy, am I glad I never donated to them. And to think, I did consider it at one point because it was such a large place and had so many many things... Yes, I do know that doesn't mean quality, but I didn't know better. I'm just glad that I'm poor.

Sorry I only mean to offend short little money grabbing gnomes with bad highlights and lip liner!

On the subject of quality over quantity, TSR do very little to encourage that, when people get banned for posting anything but 'wow your creations are great' or OMG OMG OMG I LOVE your stuff!!! Hugs, kisses rah rah'

 if you post any of the above on any creation you are awarded kudos which you can cash in for free days, mini sites, prize draws and so on, but if your post is truthful like 'atwa is your colour palette broken?' or 'atwa, are your creations so poor you have to post pictures of wild plants on your mini site, its a plant get over it we have all seen one' you would then be banned.

result is a few hundered atwa-esqe morons believing their creations are ooober great because they recieved a few copy and pasted niceities off the kudo hunters. they then go on to churn out several items of shit per day in the strong belief that if atwa can become FA anyone can.

This is interesting:

On MTS2 Bruno posted lipsticks and lip glosses that have a special alpha that plumps up lips:

http://www.modthesims2.com/creator/showthread.php?t=230061

http://www.modthesims2.com/creator/showthread.php?t=231299

Notice the posting dates.

On TSR this morning from Iced Mango:

http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/icedMango/downloads/sims2/sets/488379/

No credit, no mention of Bruno.

They seem to be a bit of a try hard to me, even made their own ad just like Bruno.

Angers me a lot to see that, I really don't understand TSR because they alow this kind of stuff...then again as Simslice said to me ! "It's the "key" differences that make it "not a copy"." lol

Oh that's just disgusting. And it sucks that it's not even worth commenting 'cause the comment would be deleted (and I would be banned) before anyone even read it.

We live in a world where everything has been done already, including lip plumping alphas... so I wouldn't bank too much on it being a thievery thing.

Yeah, that is true. Nothing new under the sun and all that. But the timing is just...awkward.

Hm. It's annoying. All this wannabeism is discouraging the talent. I know Bruno's work, love it and use it extensively, but if I didn't then I might actually think that this... person... had potential and that disturbs and angers me most of all.

Alas, it is an impotent anger and according to pmbd-philosophy that then just makes it a whine.  :-/

I don't believe that.  And that is a left over from an old myth that a patent officer resigned because "Everything that can be invented has been invented."
Charles H. Duell
Director of U.S. Patent Office, 1899

Which is not true.

http://www.myoutbox.net/posass.htm

Thats not new in TSR. They always say,"We not allow creations of others published here, otherwise we will "IMMEDIATELY" delete it."

But As always... theyre not checking each creations!

Even FA Creations!

Wow! They Really sucks!

As we all know... they need every single creation to have MONEY from the subscibers.

WOW! Im so itchy to Bomb thier database! *roar*

They do check the creations, but they dont care if designs are stolen as long as they make money out of them. you are talking about a site that has built it's whole business on files that are stolen or dont belong to them, they have staff sending illegal copies of psp through their PM system, they delete paying users accounts for no reason and steal their money, they fileshare paypal information, so it's not really surprising they dont care about stolen ideas.

Those fish lips are so painful to look at.  Why would a woman do that to herself?  ;_;

But how awesome this lipstick looks on those gorillaface bigmouthed townies! :mrgreen: I, for one, thank Bruno for this another tool of townie torturing.

So, TSR sucks. Apparently, even the TSR FAs know that by now. My favourite creators there haven't updated in ages. Shannanigan, Cyclonesue and Windkeeper are gone. Linegud and Solfal do not update that often. The only lustworthy thing there nowadays are Aikea_Guinea's things. When you look at the calendar nowadays, there is nothing but Atwa's dreadful recolours and more sims2sisters leftovers.

So, does anyone know the reason for Windkeeper's disappearance? Cyclonesue apparently had some computer problems, but she seems to have disappeared from the face of the earth. What's going on with her?

I've had a sub there for over a year now.. but I find myself dling less and less. My favs are Windkeeper and Cashcraft. Windy's flown the coup and Cash hardly updates anymore.. still wishing she'd start her own (free) site. *sigh*

There really is the most amazing shit there now. And modern!!! AHH,, I'm sick of modern! True I have tons of modern in my game, but I hardly ever use it. And if I see another fantasy picture on a bedspread I'll have to start running people through!

LG

Well, TSR's up to their usual antics again:



No notice or reason given. Only thing I can figure is that they saw me posting here. A little slow on the uptake for them seeing as I've been a member here since November of last year and never hid my membership.  :lol:

Oh noes!!11!!one!1eleventy11!11!!!! What ever will I do now?  :roll:

Did you have a pay account there evilredduckie?

Yep, but I don't care about the $. I guess they figured since I had a sub and post here that I'd be shuttling their pay files to the booty.  :lol: That shows that while they obviously read the forum, they don't read (or comprehend) all of it. TSR's pay files are already covered by others so there's no need for me to pitch in. It's a ban because of where I chose to spend part of my online time. Isn't that spechul...  :lol:

I'm not banned *snif* I feel so left out  :(

I'm sorry. I'll share my banning with you.  :lol:

This was asked at TSR (http://forums.thesimsresource.com/showthread.php?t=335395), and, as expected, the question was dodged and the thread was closed....so they dont know why shes gone then  :lol:  :roll:

Some posts were deleted before closing.  BennyBoy got on there and said that his source told him that she was sick.  Several people asked for confirmation and BB said he would check with who told him and post back.

OMG...  :shock: I never actually thought that Sims community is so complicated and full of dictators. That banning sounds so ridiculous. And it tells that they visit PMBD..

But crime is crime and no wonder that they wanna hide things then..  :roll: I'm also not surprised that many pay site administrators don't show their photos.

Have you seen their new FA?? Guess who?? Birgit (OMG what a suprise!!  :x ) Check it out here: http://www.thesimsresource.com/news.php?ID=2559

 :shock: No, were they planning to make her an FA? We all had no clue! This is a HUGE surprise!

[/sarcasm]

She has been there for, what? An entire week? How stealthy of him.

She's been there for two weeks, but she was only 'promoted' today (last night? this morning?).

Next is Sasilla....she must hate that Birgit got in first. LOL

Well, FWIW, I've noticed... The English tend to shorten names to the first syllable -- when they're just shortening names, that is ("Sab" instead of Sabrina, "Mad" instead of Madeline, "Rod" instead of Roderick, "Brit" instead of Brittany/Britney, FE).  If her English "friends" are shortening her name to "NitNit," then they may have something else in mind...



I submitted four custom alien sims almost two years ago (July and September 2005), and they were still "Pending."  I removed them about three hours ago, after starting reading this thread.

FWIW, the family name is "Rennie" (as in Michael Rennie, of "The Day the Earth Stood Still), and the Sims were "Gort" (father), "Klaatu" (mother), "Barada" (teen daughter) and "Nikto" (Child son); of course, they were named after the famous phrase, "Gort!  Klaatu barada nikto!"  (also from "The Day the Earth Stood Still")

These sims were unlike anything you may have seen before -- and they'd been "pending" for nearly two years on TSR.  I still have them on a backup DVD somewhere, and I wll eventually upload then them here (if there's a demand for them).  They were basically a custom skintone made by me, plus custom faces I made in Bodyshop.  In my game, they wore CC clothes I'd downloaded, but the versions I uploaded to TSR wore regular default Maxis clothes.



Thank goodness!  I may only be a part-time lesbian, but the "part-time" is "most of the time."  ^_~



I HAVE thought of that -- which is why I've withdrawn the submissions I've made (which thankfully were never approved in TWO YEARS).

Also, I wish *I* could afford a massage...  Anyone want to give me one?  I might be very... erm...  THANKFUL (as in the kind of thankful Atwa was to Thomas...)  ^_~



I remember DH and STPCarly from TS1...  I liked STPC, but DH's stuff was mostly $h!t...



Okay...  Today is the 17th of May, 2007...

To get even NEAR the page you were originally referencing:



*19* pages!  At *15* items per page!  That's...  (open Calculator to check) 285 ITEMS in 17 or 18 days!  That's about 16 recolors a day!  Most of which make me want to stab myself in the eyes with a rusty nail file!

ETA:  If there are any typos in this post, or bad grammar, please excuse me...  I've been drinking Crown & Coke for the last four hours, and I may have missed some typos...

ETA2:  Yeah, I'm still working my way through the thread...  It's 40 pages long!  So what's it to ya?  :P

two years?

Can i see the CC you made?

Can you post it here in this thread? pls.

I'll have to find the discs where I've saved them, but okay.  ^_^

Well she doesn't have to hate her that much , she is promoted too!
http://www.thesimsresource.com/news.php?ID=2561

Oh, good.

She's such a bitch I'm glad all her stuff will be in the booty from now on.

Took a bit longer than I expected...maybe she asked to be paid more? Greed is what motivates them afterall...

But still, YAWN. She is nothing special. Let TSR have her

@PutanginaMo:

I haven't forgotten you; I'm still trying to remember where I put my backup discs...  >_<

I was just browsing the journal pages at MTS and noticed that Sheyza is moving to TSR:
http://www.modthesims2.com/journal.php?do=showentry&e=1452

The interesting bit is:


Has anyone else heard of people being given this sort of offer to move cos I can hardly see them doing it out the kindness of their hearts.

At least MTS won't be clogged up with journal entry after journal entry of awful po8try and emo drama anymore. :twisted:

Yeah, thanks for learing all you know at MTS2 for free and then locking it behind pay, you ungrateful dog.

@PaganKitten

 i will no stop until you post it here... LOL

just to keep this thead go on.. ;)


go take you time searching for that abandoned disc! :)

im just here waiting

Who the hell is he? I didn't know about him until I read this post. And his creations aren't that beautiful. After I read about him here, I went back to TSR and searched for him. His profile description made me laugh so much that I couldn't breathe for a moment. I was like " who do you think you are you bastard?"
His Profile:

who the hell is that dick-sucker?

fuck?!? i dont care about "heirs" creations coz it sucks.

did he wanted to be an FA or SA there?

i think the reason why that dick-sucker is moving to TSR is becoz he dont have that fame on MTS2.


whatcha think?

I think he looks gay :lol: and that he protests a little too much about not being gay lol

Oh and is a fame seeking fuckwit lol

Meh, can easilly live without his stuff.

[quote="Minolia"
The interesting bit is:


Actually, I remember something about getting free subscriptions if you submit content, but it was one of those random boxes and I don't feel like scrounging for it.

But...an entire week! Wow! Such a long time!

Has anyone else heard of people being given this sort of offer to move cos I can hardly see them doing it out the kindness of their hearts.[/quote]



Oh, that guy. I had the same thought the other day. On the bright side, all anybody has to do on TSR to annoy him is say that he's gay. :P

He is very very irritating...have you seen the rest of his journal?! He is such a drama whore...as for moving to TSR, wow I did not see that coming (sarcasm).

Leaving MTS2 for TSR says something about him....gah the lemming. And I reckon you are right that he is leaving for that because he didnt get his 'fame', when he first started out he had this little 'mission' written on his profile...that he wanted to have a million downloads, a thousand thanks, and so on so furth. I think thats when I decided I didnt like him...just seemed so arrogant >.<

I doubt he will become an FA...he isnt that good....but if he does then woopdido, straight into the booty for you! Mwah ha ha ha..

I like his eyeshadows but his attitude sucks. He struck me as a drama whore the first time he submitted and I read some of his replies. I wrote him a message in his journal that started out something like this: "Yay way to be a sell out !"  :roll:

You don't have to be good to become an FA at TSR.

Atwa...

Now that is very true....

Oh dear. Now I forsee it...And his creations will be bright green like Atwa's! Noooooooo my eyes, my poor eyes!  :cry:

I just looked at his stuff at MTS2 and I thought some of it was interesting.  Not run of the mill at all.  I haven't tested it in game, of course.  His attitude may suck, but at least all of his stuff doesn't.

Some of his makeup and eyes look poser to me...*shrugs and downs rum*

Poser as in he is a poser or poser as in he stole it from poser?

Well why the hell is he spamming it up at S2C if he's so pissed?

He seems to want attention from wherever he can get it, and I can't even find that username at TSR.

His creations are nice (I've not seen them in game) but they're not indispensible.

:lol: I meant they look like they are poser content, but the first is just as likely.

Calalily, here is a link to his TSR page  (http://www.thesimsresource.com/profiles/view.php?mid=1424213) :)

he needs attention.

its obvoius that he needs his creations to be known for somewhat reason.

anyway, if hes not gay.. he shouldnt bother to post it in his profile
who damn cares? if he has a pussy behind his eggs?

None of his stuff interests me.  I thought most of it was ugly.  May not be "run of the mill", but neither is neon-green transparent furniture.  Personally, I like plain things--most of my Sims wear clothes from Fanseelamb and the Fanseefem project.  Originality doesn't really matter to me--quality does.

I thought he was a girl at first.  And yeah, the lady doth protest too much about not being gay.

What the hell is a "kink"?!

Two other points to make here..

1)  Just because your brother (and if you're friends with some) is a homosexual, it doesn't mean you approve of it so don't use your brother as a meat shield.

2)  Are you so full of yourself that you think that every gay guy wants you?

(ETA:  This post became bitchier than I wanted and I really don't have the attention span at the moment to try to reword it..)

Kink is a term used to refer to unconventional sexual practices such as bondage, domination and submission, and sadomasochism (known collectively as BDSM), and sexual fetishism.

*giggling madly* that is my new motto - despite the fact that I have no brothers.



But apparently not gay.

Thanks Jojoba.

No problem  :D

Kink sounds like quite an offensive term to me, which means that in the text that missangelica just quoted he contradicts himself.... :roll:

 And why does he keep on going on about not being gay? That strikes me as being either in denial, or homophobic....but apparently (read it in his journal) he is dating RainNCandy... *shrugs*

Most of his stuff's not bad, I've certainly seen worse, it's not the type of stuff that appeals to me though. As for denying his gayness he's just doing it to get the drama and attention he craves.

Perhaps his fit is related to the subject of this thread (which now knowing that they're dating, seems a bit contrived)
http://forums.sims2community.com/showthread.php?t=41416&page=1&pp=25

Dramarama..

Ive seen his profile. and.... his face (cheek part) looks like he's been injected by a silicon or whatever.

Waaaait. Is that a GUY? I was sure it was a girl, judging from the pictures. He looks just like my butch best friend.

The first thing written on his MTS2-presentation:


The lady doth INDEED protest too much!