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Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: maggies on 2007 December 19, 10:11:21
Hi see this message from thesims2.ea.com:

(12.12.2007
Message from a SimMaster (Moderator)

Simkate5,
This account has been perma banned from this site for violating our Terms of Service. Your Sim Page was promoting Pirates Booty which is considered "Adult Content".

Also, as a secondary issue, your Sim Page contained numerous uploads that can only be found on paid/donation Web sites.

Thanks for your cooperation,
-The Sims Web Team)
 :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil: :evil:  :evil:  :evil:


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: slickchick on 2007 December 19, 10:19:21
well, the booty does have adult content available, BUT haven't they conducted several interviews with paysite owners quite recently?


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: pixelated on 2007 December 19, 10:19:48
Quote
Also, as a secondary issue, your Sim Page contained numerous uploads that can only be found on paid/donation Web sites.


...

I really don't know what to say.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: alia on 2007 December 19, 10:25:10
Hmm. Did you credit the original creators, i.e. Peggy, TSR etc.?

Because, I have understood that sharing stuff should be ok if you credit the original creators.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: neriana on 2007 December 19, 10:52:39
Which SimMaster was this message from?


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: maggies on 2007 December 19, 12:17:02
Quote from: "neriana"
Which SimMaster was this message from?


hi!  
my simpage:  

http://thesims2.ea.com/mysimpage/uploads.php?user_id=3522709&asset_type=sim

i credited the creators


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: Paleoanth on 2007 December 19, 13:07:37
I didn't see the sim master message.  Just a bunch of hair.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: lasciel on 2007 December 19, 13:11:54
:|

whiskey tango foxtrot, batman?


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: SparklePlenty on 2007 December 19, 14:08:36
Ah! I see the problem. I, myself, if you can believe it, have gotten reprimanded for a similar infraction. Your mistake was LABELING the items as Donation files from TSR. If you just put them on, or even put links to the Booty, you would not have drawn attention to yourself. Blame TSR or their toadies for this.

P.S. Also, they might have had problems with the word "Booty," as some people are so ignorant they only know definitions of words from viewing rap videos.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: AW on 2007 December 19, 15:26:59
Quote from: "lasciel"
:|

whiskey tango foxtrot, batman?


ROFL Lasciel!  That was almost like having a convo with my husband.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: Camy on 2007 December 19, 16:13:17
They should always look into things (site in this case) before banning people instead of being ignorant of what you meant by "Pirate's Booty".  That's not good with a mod, or an admin.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: calalily on 2007 December 19, 16:37:55
Quote from: "armywife"
Quote from: "lasciel"
:|

whiskey tango foxtrot, batman?


ROFL Lasciel!  That was almost like having a convo with my husband.


What?  Does your husband say regularly:

Quote from: "sexyarmyhusbandtellstruth"
charlie alpha lima alpha lima india lima yankee romeo oscar charlie kilo sierra


Smart man that.  Well he'd be right, wouldn't he?  :D


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: AW on 2007 December 19, 17:23:38
That's exactly what he says!  *wonders how she knows*


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: Peasant on 2007 December 19, 17:46:01
To the OP:  Are you still able to sign Sim Master's books if you've been perma banned?  Perhaps you can camly explain that there are more versions of the word 'booty' and your version doesn't mean Johnny Depp's or Orlando Bloom's.

Becuse, you know, you have to keep in mind the Wizard's First Rule (Terry Goodkind) which is: People are stupid.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: Hecubus on 2007 December 19, 18:10:37
We actually knew that EA legal would have them start taking our links down because of the adult content. I'm just surprised they banned you rather than giving you a warning. But...whatever.


Title: Re: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: Jojoba on 2007 December 19, 18:27:48
Quote from: "maggies"


(12.12.2007
Message from a SimMaster (Moderator)

Simkate5,
This account has been perma banned from this site for violating our Terms of Service. Your Sim Page was promoting Pirates Booty which is considered "Adult Content".

Also, as a secondary issue, your Sim Page contained numerous uploads that can only be found on paid/donation Web sites.

Thanks for your cooperation,
-The Sims Web Team)


Which SimMaster was this?

No adult content is allowed on the BBS or Exchange, and also no links which may contain adult content. This includes Insimenator.net because the hack has the teen pregnancy and abortion options.  :roll:

The second issue is worded very weirdly. It doesnt actually say that this is not allowed

Could you please printscreen the message and paste it in? :) Just to see for sure..


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: SnarkyShark on 2007 December 19, 20:40:22
Quote from: "calalily"

What?  Does your husband say regularly:
Quote from: "sexyarmyhusbandtellstruth"
charlie alpha lima alpha lima india lima yankee romeo oscar charlie kilo sierra


Smart man that.  Well he'd be right, wouldn't he?  :D


Lima Oscar Lima

india lima uniform victor zulu mike yankee charlie alpha lima alpha.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: Paden on 2007 December 19, 21:00:42
And your bird can sing!
Back to regular butchered english; well, if that don't fuck a sheeple through a barbed wire fence, I don't know what in the hell does! The only reason I use that example is because of what they're doing to their customers... I could have used worse ones, but my spirits are low today.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: Harlock on 2007 December 19, 21:48:33
I am not surprised.

A lot of "SimMasters" are TSR fangirls ... ever wonder why TSR is listed first and MTS2 is not even listed?


I tell you want, if you want something done complain to the administrator.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: calalily on 2007 December 20, 03:41:25
Quote from: "SnarkyShark"
Quote from: "calalily"

What?  Does your husband say regularly:
Quote from: "sexyarmyhusbandtellstruth"
charlie alpha lima alpha lima india lima yankee romeo oscar charlie kilo sierra


Smart man that.  Well he'd be right, wouldn't he?  :D


Lima Oscar Lima

india lima uniform victor zulu mike yankee charlie alpha lima alpha.


Romeo Uniform November Alpha whiskey Alpha Yankee Whiskey India Tango Hotel Mike Echo Sierra November Alpha Romeo Kilo Yankee  :wink:


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: Ry on 2007 December 20, 15:04:56
Cala....*sigh*...I SO wanted to be the one to run away with you.
I think I'll go cry now...*sob sob*


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: Paden on 2007 December 20, 17:24:05
Awww, don't cry ryry! I've got a rotating list all worked out of who runs away with cala and when. She and Snarky will be back Thursday next, then it will be Hec's turn for a week, then yours for a week, then pooki's, then it will be armywife's, and hey, waddaya know, my turn! Wheeeeeeeeeee! She's gonna be one busy lady, but don't let her forget to pack a food hamper before you go, she's always trying to duck out on that part of it!


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: Pooki on 2007 December 20, 17:26:25
Woohoo!!! I get a turn! I can't wait!


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: missangelica on 2007 December 20, 17:48:50
I'm not surprised by what the GM did but I'm disgusted.  EAxis might as well declare their love of paysites because at this point it's not a secret to anyone.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: calalily on 2007 December 20, 18:08:48
Quote from: "Paden"
Awww, don't cry ryry! I've got a rotating list all worked out of who runs away with cala and when. She and Snarky will be back Thursday next, then it will be Hec's turn for a week, then yours for a week, then pooki's, then it will be armywife's, and hey, waddaya know, my turn! Wheeeeeeeeeee! She's gonna be one busy lady, but don't let her forget to pack a food hamper before you go, she's always trying to duck out on that part of it!


Sooooo too late by then - while Snarky and I are joking and laughing and eating some chippies, my ravening hoarde will eat the lot.  The gorging starts tomorrow.  :D

And how will I give Mr. Funny back, eh?  I canna.  So, the new system will be that each week I will collect you - a new edition every weekl and run away with you back to my loveshack, keeping you all in mylar bags, and forever.  

When I want a laugh, I bring out Snarky; when I want a weird site, and some even weirder quotes from some obscure movies, I bring out Hec; when I want some gossip, out comes ry; when I want some talking about my favourite books, out comes pooks, when I want to communicate with simmers all over the world, whose email addresses I do not know, out comes armywife, and when I need someone to rant and rave, out comes the paden.

On Sundays, I let you all out, maybe throw in a mild troll or newbie, and enjoy. It will be a mad house.  :D I will love it  :lol:  

You have about five weeks Paden, until a hairy faced woman will abduct you.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: Ry on 2007 December 20, 18:15:35
I shall leave all doors unlocked and windows open in hopes that St/ Hairyface soon will be here.... :lol:
Wewt. I gossip too much, huh?  :lol:
*shakes head*
Should have known I'd be known for that...lmao!


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: Paden on 2007 December 20, 19:24:14
At least you'll be getting out of the mylar bag, ry! cala is perfectly capable of doing her own ranting and raving, so I'm going to be left all alone on a shelf, moldering in my bag. *sniff* I thought my cala wubs me, but alas, nobody does...

I await your coming to get me patiently, but we may have to bring my child, being as I'm too fond of him to leave him behind. Hope you don't mind a kid who likes to cuddle, kiss, tickle and climb around on the shelves...


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: Harlock on 2007 December 20, 20:04:51
Quote from: "missangelica"
I'm not surprised by what the GM did but I'm disgusted.  EAxis might as well declare their love of paysites because at this point it's not a secret to anyone.


I am sorry but you do understand SimMasters are simply moderators that were picked from the BBS userbase.

Its pretty common companies not giving a damn about their official forums and just make some of the people that post there moderators, what is also common is such people going into a power trip and screw up the forums and other general idiocy.

The Official site is and always been pro-paysite because SimMasters are pro-paysites, EA legal department on the other hand ...

Its clear that Maxis and EA never cared much about the official site, they are still using a BBS were everyone else pretty much stop using then in the end of 1990's.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: Zazazu on 2007 December 21, 19:56:44
I don't understand. The page is still there.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: Anouk on 2007 December 21, 23:45:31
Quote from: "kariminger"
I don't understand. The page is still there.

They do not has proper cookie Magicks like Atwa does.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: Harlock on 2007 December 22, 05:29:40
They are simply moderators, they lack the power to delete SimPages since they are now connected to a EA master profile and there is that issue of then NOT being employers of EA and so NOT allowed to preview the site members privileged information.

Of course the administrators likely can do it and the fact the page is still up and the downloads not been taken down indicates there have been some "failure of communication" as in "they banned you but do not inform the administrators so their ban not is overruled".

Is because of SimMasters and the like that I have a natural distrust of any site moderator.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: prattle on 2007 December 23, 08:45:47
I know Sim Masters are volunteer BBS moderators, but I don't really have much of an idea as to the extent of their powers or access to confidential information. I believe they're responsible to MaxoidDrea but I'm not 100% sure about that.

On one hand, I'm surprised that EA still uses volunteers to moderate their forums, since it's potentially a legal issue and Ultima Online got sued over something similar years ago; on the other hand, I'd be surprised if they let a volunteer forum ban accounts but not have access to some account history (to figure out who's a repeat offender) or be able to remove MySims pages and uploaded content as well; on a third hand, if it does have to be deleted by a Maxoid, it's quite likely that they just haven't gotten around to it yet.

I do know that I've had a link to Money Better Spent in my BBS signature for months now, and never gotten hassled about it; while I'm a very occasional poster over there, I've poked at MaxoidSam in the (now-removed) SecuROM forum a few times, so I can't really say I've been flying under the radar. The booty is also often-mentioned by others on the BBS, and doesn't seem to be an instant ban target either.....

I'm confused. Maybe rum will help.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: Harlock on 2007 December 23, 17:37:35
Its still quite common (after all who would do it? the only forums that I know being with paid staff are or were WotC forums), also remember you are very limited to what you can do about a BBS or a forum and keep in mind you do sign a Terms of Use when registering.

Moderators usually are locked from the sensitive information, they are usually limited just to edit and delete posts or close and delete treads, the serious stuff is usually left to administrators, of course there are loopholes but they are not ever going to be able to see your EA account since it can have your credit card information.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: SparklePlenty on 2008 January 03, 03:17:21
Looks like she's back in business. Un-banned?

http://thesims2.ea.com/mysimpage/pod.php?user_id=3522709


Title: Re: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: maggies on 2008 January 03, 19:08:33
Quote from: CaptainJojoba
Quote from: "maggies"

[...]
Could you please printscreen the message and paste it in? :) Just to see for sure..

(http://www.filenanny.com/files/4771143e51e0010526/ScreenShot001.jpg) Free file hosting at filenanny.com! (http://www.filenanny.com/)

sorry not to have answered more quickly!


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: WedgewoodBlue on 2008 January 03, 23:55:57
I have posted several times in reference to paysites, and their violation of the EULA, and you won't find any of my posts anywhere. The reason being that in each post I have pointed out their listing of TSR as the top fan site on the BBS forum. Why I have not been banned is a mystery to me, I neither care nor wonder why they do what they do at the official site any longer. I have made my point endlessly with regards to TSR and their promotion at the official site, nothing has ever been replied to, nor dealt with, surprise, surprise. I don't even get private replies in my personal e-mail.
Of course I have fired off a very angry letter to Lawrence Probst, the CEO and Chairman of EA. That has never been replied to as well, another big surprise. (serious sarcasm here folks)
All I really want now is the slow painful demise of EA, to hell with the paysites as well, but the destruction of EA is what now holds the greatest appeal for me.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: deelink on 2008 January 04, 04:16:03
The post that Maggie posted sent me... into a blind rage and ended me with gnawing on a cruskit while staring at the screen in horror.

Here it is folks, the moderation that tipped EA in favour of the %$%#&@B *@*#&*@# @*^&#* @#*&&# AND *#*$#A$& websites that are bleeding the community dry!

And their excuse? That they are following the wishes of the webmaster. Who is charging for PIXELS that EA first created.
EA are STUPID.

Yeah.. you heard me.. I went there
and stated the obvious :P


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: JFederated on 2008 January 04, 05:58:46
What's a cruskit?

It's utter shite to use that paid/donation nonsense as a reason for anything they do on the official site.  Reeks of toady and I idly wonder what a higher up would say about it.  If they're going to go there, then they might as well ban people who upload any FREE off-site stuff to the official site, or take credit for something they found on the Exchange - what is the difference?  It wasn't made by the person uploading.  Fan sites' rules regarding CC distribution do not apply to EA at all nor what they do on the official site because all your mesh are belong to them.  

There is nothing nowhere nohow from EA denouncing filesharing in any way, quite the opposite.  EA cannot tell Calalily, for example, what to do or say on her site as long as she's got that mandatory dissociation statement on it (I'd say also that decidedly adult CC might be a reason for EA to take steps against a site, but there's plenty of those around and nary a peep about it).  However, it certainly doesn't work in the reverse when EA already owns the rights to things made with their own flipping game code...yes?  They're gonna stop the circulation of CC they themselves encourage and actually own in the end 'cause someone's pissy about getting paid for something they aren't supposed to be charging for?

Toady.  Sekkrit toady hijinks.  Yuck.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: deelink on 2008 January 04, 09:45:51
(http://www.woolworths.co.nz/ImageServer/product_images/big/9310072020198.jpg)


They taste like corn and butter flavored Styrofoam.
 :twisted:


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: JFederated on 2008 January 04, 15:41:36
:lol:   Butter - the great equalizer.

Thanks, Dee.  :)


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 January 04, 15:58:51
I'm pretty sure that SimMasters can ban people. Remember SimMaster Burpie, the public relations genius? She banned all sorts of people before the Maxoids canned her.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: alia on 2008 January 04, 23:58:09
I cannot stand Exchange. The 12ness is just too much.

What did this Burpie person do? Did they go on a power trip, or something?

And, see my post count! Again!


<=How many of you have reached the magic number seen on the left twice?

How many? Huh?

Nobody, that is who. And you wanna know why?

Because I am truly ebil! Nyah! :twisted:


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: redisenchanted on 2008 January 05, 01:39:13
Burpie was assigned to manage the SecuRom forum. She assured everyone that uninstalling BV removed it, talked about choking people with usb cords, generally made everyone furious. The maxoids demoted her. I'd link back if I every went to the BB anymore, but I don't.

I think that the obnoxious AussieKoala who stalked the board was actually her. Now they moved everything back to the tech help board.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: SparklePlenty on 2008 January 05, 02:19:23
Quote from: "redisenchanted"
I'm pretty sure that SimMasters can ban people. Remember SimMaster Burpie, the public relations genius? She banned all sorts of people before the Maxoids canned her.


Ha! The one and only time I got banned was because I "got on Burpie's last nerve." Stupid bitch. They can ban you, but not permanently.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: calalily on 2008 January 05, 07:50:10
Quote from: "alia"
<=How many of you have reached the magic number seen on the left twice?

How many? Huh?

Nobody, that is who. And you wanna know why?

Because I am truly ebil! Nyah! :twisted:


*shakes head in sadness* So alluring, yet so ebil.  :cry:

Quote from: "redisenchanted"
I think that the obnoxious AussieKoala who stalked the board was actually her. Now they moved everything back to the tech help board.


 :x Talk about wanting to smash someone's face in.  AussieKoala sucks arse.  I like this tinfoil theory though.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: Markus on 2008 January 05, 08:02:00
All the Comm Arts students in my college were required to take one PR class second semester with the Public Relations students. At the time we were all kind of 'meh' about having to take it, but now I'm glad we did it.

Everything they told us not to do is what Burpie did.
Maxoids make me want to bang my head against my desk.


Title: EA and paysite! :(
Post by: alia on 2008 January 05, 09:07:27
Heh. Tin foil and drama.

There is no better way to start Saturday.

I luvs me some drama.

Edit: And a sim master with a sockpuppet account!
I love this community. :D