Title: EA's TOU Post by: AW on 2007 July 24, 00:30:37 C. Fees Charged By Third-Party Sites And Vendors.
We may provide links to other web sites. Some of these web sites may charge separate fees, which are not included in any subscription or other fees that you may pay to EA. EA may also provide access to or through third-party vendors, who provide content, goods and or services on EA Online, the Internet or via wireless. Any separate charges or obligations you incur in your dealings with these third parties are your responsibility. I was reading EA's TOU and found this. How does it affect the EULA or copyright? Aren't they saying that it is ok to sell content? This is just a question, because I really don't know. Title: EA's TOU Post by: redisenchanted on 2007 July 24, 00:39:10 Where was this located? Is it for Sims Online perhaps?
Title: EA's TOU Post by: AW on 2007 July 24, 00:43:03 Here it is http://www.ea.com/global/legal/tos.jsp
The key is that they link TSR and other sites with EA online. So, are they condoning the paysites? Title: EA's TOU Post by: AW on 2007 July 24, 00:49:17 Here's another conspiracy theory for you: A new EP is being released in September. At that time, EA can change the EULA/ TOS / or whatever for the game. My prediction is that is what they are waiting for. But is is just a guess on my part and I could be wrong - it wouldn't be the first time. Since I have worked for large corps in pr, this would be the way I would do it. Why? Because once you hit "ok" you essentially accepted the new terms not even realizing it. Unfair? Sure. Legal? Absolutely. Happens everyday in corporate America.
Food for thought. I would be interested to hear your thoughts and opinions. Title: EA's TOU Post by: redisenchanted on 2007 July 24, 01:02:46 It is under "EA ONLINE TERMS OF SERVICE", rather than sims 2 specific. Here is the more of the text:
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Title: Re: EA's TOU Post by: Clementyne on 2007 July 24, 01:06:21 Quote from: "armywife" C. Fees Charged By Third-Party Sites And Vendors. We may provide links to other web sites. Some of these web sites may charge separate fees, which are not included in any subscription or other fees that you may pay to EA. EA may also provide access to or through third-party vendors, who provide content, goods and or services on EA Online, the Internet or via wireless. Any separate charges or obligations you incur in your dealings with these third parties are your responsibility. I was reading EA's TOU and found this. How does it affect the EULA or copyright? Aren't they saying that it is ok to sell content? This is just a question, because I really don't know. I'm pretty sure they're talking about advertisiments for the most part. Alot of games, etc. with websites have that in their TOU, otherwise someone might go "OMG!!! I clicked a flashy button on your site and those peoples talked me out of money, so now you have to pay me back cuz its all your fault!!!" I think they are waiting for Sims3. If I were them, I would want to see which side (paysite vs. pirate/freesite) burned out the fastest, and go with whatever the majority of the regular-joe fans want. Title: EA's TOU Post by: Yaardarm Monkey on 2007 July 24, 01:11:16 It is a standard online legal form.
And yes, it does cover EA's ass from anyone clicking the ads and also just recently, VISA; since Visa comes with fees, nobody can turn around and blame EA. this is useful (from the linked legal tou) Third Party Sites. If you click on a link to a third party site, including on an advertisement, a link to America Online (AOL), or an Ad company, you will leave the Electronic Arts site you are visiting and go to the site you selected. Because we cannot control the activities of third parties, including AOL or other service providers, we cannot accept responsibility for any use of your personal information by such third parties, and we cannot guarantee that they will adhere to the same privacy and security practices as Electronic Arts. We encourage you to review the privacy policies of any other service provider from whom you request services. If you visit a third party website that is linked to an Electronic Arts site, you should consult that site’s privacy policy before providing any personal information. also....since this deals exclusively with EA Online, it also deals with those new ads they introduced; for businesses and also for the charity ads Title: EA's TOU Post by: AW on 2007 July 24, 01:11:30 Thanks for you input. I wasn't sure. So, I thought I would ask. I saw a couple of other forums that were discussing this and thought I would get another viewpoint.
Title: EA's TOU Post by: OneEyedWillie on 2007 July 24, 02:29:21 I hear changes are in the wind, but that's all I can say....just be on the lookout though.
Title: EA's TOU Post by: RedLove on 2007 July 24, 02:34:04 Quote from: "OneEyedWillie" I hear changes are in the wind, but that's all I can say....just be on the lookout though. What the hell? Tell me. :| Title: EA's TOU Post by: AW on 2007 July 24, 02:56:17 Quote from: "OneEyedWillie" I hear changes are in the wind, but that's all I can say....just be on the lookout though. You know you're sexy when you're mysterious. Title: EA's TOU Post by: HawkGirl on 2007 July 24, 10:21:46 When I asked about that portion they told me it's because they also own Pogo.com. As well as sell games for other companies other than EA that's why it's there. Plus they said fansites are considered third party links and they do not want to be held responsible if...well say a child comes up on some sexual toys, tells their parents, and the parents go how'd you get to that link? EA. Were suing. They said they can't police all the sites 24 hours a day. So then I added in my own little poke and said yeah well apparently no one has been policing them at all, which is why it's come to this.
Title: EA's TOU Post by: Apsalar on 2007 July 24, 15:37:43 Quote from: "OneEyedWillie" I hear changes are in the wind, but that's all I can say....just be on the lookout though. I only have one word for you... (http://www.catwack.com/pics/526.jpg) |