I agree: free stuff and freedom of speech, worth waiting for.

In addition, there have been many many reasons stated why paysites are wrong, but I have yet to read any viable, or even any at all!, arguments why the sharing of package files is wrong. 'It goes against creators TOS' simply isn't good enough in view of the fact the creators have been proven to have lied, and cheated, about bandwidth and hard work and monies spent making CC etc.

I'm not bitching. But now I am confused  :shock: The thread was talking about PMs and saying PMs aren't private. You said PMs may have been filtered, not deleted. I am saying 'what was mine filtered on that caused it to not even get there'. No bitching just trying to ascertain how it could have been filtered and not deleted. The first message was on MTS2, no links in it, didn't get there. So probably deleted by a moderator or Delphy. The second message was on a a different site.  ?

Well, my PM said nothing about any 'banned' subject matter, had no cuss words (shocking for me I know!) was mainly benign. It did mention that the PM might not ever get to the person....what filter would have blocked that?

I have sent PMs and then later PMed the receiver on another forum about it and they never got it. It happens witho or without Delphy's knowledge. Considering what happened, or so the tale goes, to JM, I have to think Delphy knows fully.

Well yeah, PMs would be good. However, in the case of Delphy, he has, and/or his minions have, in the past taken little notice of privacy and deleted private messages at will. So how can one trust PMing the info on MTS2?



No one is 'telling you what to do' Delphy. That's pretty extreme to say that. We have reiterated a number of times that it was very good of you to post the 'mission message'. That doesn't mean we agree with or have to agree with everything you say and do from here on out.

Whether you like it or not, you have a double standard going with the links to paysites allowed but not to here. Period. Like it or not. We got it: you think that that action is 'OK'. We don't.

So, one extremist to the next: It's really simple. Don't click the link to this page if you don't like us.

What I said....

If there's a link to the booty in the Treasure Chest forum I don't know about it.

I wasn't trying to change your mind Delphy. IA person has an opinion and they usually stick to it, regardless of what anyone else says. I was just stating my opion of what you said.

This phorum IS the right way to attack this problem. It's made great strides so far, that no one else dared to make before. (Pescado has big ones ) This site is needed mostly because of the way the subject was handled at places like MTS2--delete the threads, ban the links. Yes, you have taken a giant step in the right direction with the 2007 mission Statement. Wasn't the statement 'down with paysites, let's stop them'? THIS site is taking the steps to actually stop them, where it counts the most, in their pockets which is all they care about. That is not wrong. MTS2 has taken the second seat, helping spread the word. And that's a good thing.

Still, allowing links and threads to and about paysites and not allowing links and threads about SFV and PMBD is counterproductive and definitely sends a confusing, mixed message.

If there were enough man power--the booty could be a listing and people could put in requests, like at SFV, but not.  

If space was needed to store the files, we all have a little bit of spce thru our ISp. What if we stored it spread out, and then the email request would go to the 'holder' of the requesrted files?

I have no idea if this is truly feasible...

I smell Bull Shit.

IMO, this is two faced.

Yes, I can see that. But don't know if I agree it's ...'all good.'

Wouldn't it be more 'anti-paysite' if he allowed signatures to with links to this site and SFV? Afterall, he allows signatures with links to paysites.

I guess this site does 'punish' but I veiw it more like: This site corrects a huge wrong and does so for the good of the community.  

This site has made so many games for so many simmers so much more fun. Isn't that what it's all about?

I didn't say anyone siad I had to. If Anyone DID say it, I'm sure I'd go quickly to "I DO NOT respect that."




Said just like a politician. Good for you, Delphy, and I can see that it can be good for MTS2 and hence the users of MTS2. But good all over, in the long run? Probably not, since it often doesn't work out for politicians in the long run either. Hence, I'm undecided where I stand on the stance.



So what? it's fun, period. If anyone is making more of it then that, they need to get a grip and grow up. If someone calls someone a bitch, that person may joke about it and call themselves a bitch without ever meaning they think themselves a bitch. Everyone around laughs cuz they know the source. Same here.

PS. Also, my indicision on your stance is borne of experience with your viewpoints and attitudes that have ...waffled a bit, Lyric Lee comes to mind and how people tried to point out to you she was 'way off' in her dictatorship, but you chose to ignore it for whatever reason. I don't care the reason, it hurt the site and it hurt individuals needlessly. So I am not 'climbing on your wagon, just because it's the 'right color' today. All that said, I DO think you took a great big step for the community and I think we all thank you for that. It did quite a bit in restoring my 'like' of you....but..... I'm not 'sheep status' yet.

JM, for comparison to make this more understandable, I willing bring virgin goats to lay at his feet. He has been steady in his opinions on everything from the git go. Those opinions always have been in the interest of the community and the game with no hidden agendas.

Always the phorum, never the booty. Since the 'name change that wasn't really a name change' I have three links, one directly to the booty, one to PMBD, and one to MNBN. When Ihave trouble with the MNBN, I try the PMBD which sometimes works out, if those both don't work, then I try to get in thru the booty, which takes me to the front page and usually gets me to the phorum but not always--I'd say maybe 60% of the time it works.

I'm not sure I understand the 'need' to improve the service. I have trouble connecting now and then, but it's minimal, not even a real annoyance.