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Quote from: "Peachfish"

Finally about the EULA argument. I, too, wish you would stop throwing that around all the time. I don’t completely buy it. There are a multitude of ways to interpret the EULA and just as many ways that the EULA interacts with copyright and intellectual property laws in different countries. I doubt if even the EA legal eagles have a clear-cut definition of whether paysites are illegal or not. In the end it would be up to a court to decide on the issue.

Well, suppose this is old now, from page 6, but i've seen this argument often. I've read some "horror"-stories from my own location, that means, the country i live in, about people who do not seem to care about EULAs. They can get in big troubble not reading the agreements they sign and accept. In fact, i think the pirates are doing the paysite-creators a favor
with warning them about the EULA. If you or anyone else "ignore" these
agreements, you never really know what is going to happen later.

My point is, do not take easy on EULA, the arguments to
PMBD are valid, and it's this site who shows respect for EAs EULA. They have nothing to loose, they can only win. Paysite-creators are in the opposite situation.

I am a highly responsible person and have moral values. So i have asked myself, 1. what am i doing wrong when i add some paysitecontent to the booty? 2. I have also asked myself what am i doing right?

After debating with myself and some friends who know the law, my answer on what i made morally wrong on question nr. 1 was no answer at all. Paysites lost my respect when they started to charge for their CC, adding paypals everywhere, and called it donations. (we all know what a donation means, hopefully). So why should i question my own moral or my fellow pirates moral towards people who 1. don't seem to have any troubble with their own etichs/moral? Do these people earn my respect?
No, they do not.

They have during several years violated EAs own rules, and still some try to rip of people's bankaccounts for creating some pixels, after reading free tutorials on MTS2 or similar sites. Neither SimPE or wes_h plugins are for sale. The lessons on how to create was never for sale. I have bought a game, with all their EPs, and i have also read the EULA for bodyshop, for homecrafter and when you install the game.

I'll never stop using the EULA arguments, when all this is about is copyrights, and violation of copyrights. I know you are against paysites, and that is good, but lets say, you are a paysiteowner/creator. I bought CC from you and promised you not to share the files. I would not hesitate to break that promise.

Why?

Because if you owned a paysite, you've already broken your promises to EA, and to me as a customer of EA, by violating their rules. As a paysiteowner you are creating more problems for my kids, and for parents, the kids want all that glorious paysitecontent, many parents are SILLY enough paying for it, after they've bought the games, which means, the game is getting damm expensive after a while? SO WHAT OTHER RIGHTS DO WE HAVE IF NOT FOR EULA'S? And heck, i bought it, i can't even get my money back if the stuff is horrible in game, i can throw it, if i am real evil i can of course share it with some people i don't like, but my moral would tell me that i just deleted it since i don't want other people to get in troubble. That's just an example on debating morality/etichs. (Since my english is limited, i do not often write long stories about anything, but i had to say something about this).

And you have probably read this too?

Nouk have had a correspondance with EA, here are some of the answers

EAs response on usermade tools

Thank you for contacting Electronic Arts.

If the items and tools are used for your own personal use, then there is no copyright violation. If you start to distribute or sell items then it would be.

The items can be harmful and cause errors within the game, our first recommendation would be to remove any custom content. If you have any further questions or concerns
please reply to this email or visit our extensive knowledge base online at http://support.ea.com
Thank you,
Alex I.
EA Online Support

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If one read EULAs the companies can give you $1000 as a gift for reading it. This post is not only for you.

I do not understand that you have a need for beeing anynomous at this site, as long as you do not share any files. I am not going to PM you just to know who you are, that is of no interest to me. I think pirates should be kinda careful who they start talking too, special people who are anonymous in the phorum, but want them to pm her. 100% freesite or not, one never know.......