I don't think any one could be surprised by this. Inge, Delphy, WesH and co. all did what they always do give to the sims community, Thomas did what Thomas does naturally takes from the sims community. Now who in the sims community does Thomas have to vouch for his product, no one. but hold on, lookie here Sblade.  I feel as though once again my retardedness is poking it's head.  The way I am thinking is:- the examples Pes gave from the anti virus didn't say "OOOh TSR  doing bad things on your computer. Disconnect now."  It is warning that the programme has the potential to do bad things so don't let it connect.  Pes is 100% correct and the potential for TSR is enormous.  If they don't send bad files with their tool now, we know how vindictive TSR  are when protecting their money.  I think to protect their assets they would send nasties down to the tool in the future.  The good thing for TSR is the users will have got used to the anti virus kciking in and just click the allow button.  Just like now when they get alerts from Firefox etc they click ignore out of habit.  It may be retarded as I have no idea if this is possible, if it is why aren't people like Sblade, who at  least added "but it does phone home" to the forum title, not warning people of the potential threat.

Please don't hold your breath rum nate.  Just to clarify, for johan, I wasn't expectecting an answer from a TSR goffer.  I was after an honest reply.  I have never downloaded anything from TSR either free or pay.  I value my pc far to much to risk it.  So am hardly likely to download anything else from there.  If I wanted a bullshit, PR pouffed answer I would have registered and asked that question on a TSR forum, but I didn't I asked it here where honest answers are the norm not the exception.  So please be keeping your half assed answers for where they belong TSR forums.

I wrote my reply at 4.00am this morning when I woke briefly.  It wasn't until I read it now that I find it pretty odd that johan jumped on that question,  after everything that has been said in this thread, then totally failed to answer it in any way.

Bloody missed that one, that will teach me to sleep, all hail Paden. 

Is anyone aware at the moment as to what method TSR is using to get their programme to phone home?  Is it the same as the launcher?

They are getting trigger happy over there.  It took less then 3 minutes for a ban and post deletion.  Bet I won't see my one peice of silver again, maybe she is saving up to be a real Judas.  

Yeah I pretty much got that when I read this reply on Peggyzone.  Screw the fact it craps out your game.  Keep up the good work.

I find the new new EULA pretty confusing also. On the peggy hairs I am reading it as anything that has used the launcher belongs to EA.  Peggy has reworked EA hair so she must have used the launcher to download it from EA in the first place, so anything that is derived from that work belongs to EA and should be shared freely.  Also, she totally disregarded Wes Howe's terms of use and used his tool to make pay hair, while blatantly requesting for people not to reproduce her items.  This one is really taking the piss.

Is it me or do all those blokes look like they have beer bellies. Overdoing the beer would also explain the pee stains running down their legs.

Why do these things keep happening every time Atwa puts in a reappearance. My tin foil thoughts are that she compromises the site then offers to rescue it. Or they are just plain stupid and have no idea about site security whatsoever.  They are announcing this incident because they were slammed for not informing customers of the last one and they are desperately trying to redeem themselves.

Another coconut update.  Wow! this one just fills me with anger, WTF.

I believe it goes further than a sexual thing, to me it smacks of soul mate (birds of a feather)and partner in crime.  They talk alot, maybe Thomas has told her more than he should have, or asked her to do more than he should have entrusted one person to do.  Atwat comes across as a very needy person, she would do anything to earn the grace of Thomas.  I really do have concerns for any one who gets in her way.  She also credits other people with her traits anything she does she imagines others are doing to her.  I have no doubt she has had a hand in some hackings, she is so obsessed with people hacking her.

Thomas is definitely feeding her obsession. The guy wants to grow a pair.

Sorry if I should have put this in the other tsr thread. Moar atwat drama from coconut.

http://tsr.mustbedestroyed.org/

I think confirmation of the truth  has been swept under the rug. The belief that it was TSR is out there, they are the main suspects in this, yes they have muddied the water but they have done it in a way that it can't be proven that it wasn't them.  People have to look at the evidence that is there and decide for themselves now.  Since this broke I have never seen TSR so well behaved and gobshite free. Definitely keeping a low profile for now.  Some good came of it.  When I first joined, the site would have been snowed under with TSR addicts screaming how mean we are and horrible, horrible, nasty liars. This time we had a couple of idiots, and a lot of what seems like level headed people join with the message :- we subscribed to  TSR and think it is disgusting they did this, we are cancelling our subscription.