I was a choir girl. No really, I was. First soprano even.

Of course, I was also the resident "goth chick"(tm), so I think I had notoriety for that, and less for the singing. Poo.

I kind of liked those toilets. Hated the tubs though.

Lets be proper pirates and burn his site down!
Except...how does one do that on the internets?
*ponders*
...

Too much thinking, I'm going to go have some pudding instead.

That isn't 'emo', sparkle.  Don't you know emo is a new thing and none of us old people would ever understand? You were probably chronologically closer to goth (though from the sound of it, a bit before goth even), but with much different music. I was pretty much the same way, except my taste in music ran to The Cure, Depeche Mode, NIN, Sisters of Mercy, and anything else I could cry to.

I just never really outgrew it, and I am still terribly emotional. >.>

A whois can be very useful, if you want to know where to send the hate mail for example, but doesn't tell us a lot of useful information in this case. The domain does appear to be locked, but that doesn't really tell us why or what's going on. Also, that's dangerously close to exposing personal details on the forum which is not really encouraged (though yes, anyone can go look it up).

There will be discounts on the Peggy hairs that will be determined in proportion to the size of the gaps. I'd say most of them will be 60% off or so.  There will most definitely be cosmetics, and they will all be over-saturated Elmazz 'Cocksucker Lips' recolours. Because I know what is sexy.

Thats fucking brilliant! Why didn't I think of that first?

Okay, it's official. I am closing down Digital Perversion and opening Brain Implosion, which will feature top quality, totally original recolours of other people's pay site content. Look forward to quality creations like colour overlay Peggy 'Ho-Bag' couture and RBG-Slider Rose 'You're Jealous of My Weave' hairstyles. They can all be yours for the low introductory price of $15.99 a month.

Trust me, I know what I'm doing, I'm totally a fashion designer.

Nah, that post wasn't aimed directly at you, just venting in your general direction. Don't take it personally.

I get a tad frustrated sometimes is all, and me being here longer than any other particular person really is neither here nor there, except when people assume they know all the exact whys and wherefores on which it was founded. It wasn't like it just appeared magically and everyone had rum and cookies, there were some disagreements in the process. I would rather people didn't take Pes or anyone else's opinion at face value as 'the right one', since that would just make us a bunch of sheeples. I in fact agree with you 100% that no one should charge anything for any pixels. The less or more evil thing is not me trying to justify anyone charging, but really it's me idealistically holding out hope that some of these misguided creators can be brought to see the light. It has happened before.

I know that you weren't taking shots at people who pay money for the booty, I just borrowed your term. That bit wasn't really in response to what you said, I guess I should have made it clearer that it was more of an elaboration of what you said before.

Don't take what I said personally, it wasn't aimed at any one person.

That's fine, we can agree to disagree on this one small thing, since we are all working for the same cause. But please, if we are going to do this, don't give me this "what started this website" business, because if I recall correctly, I was here and you guys were not. Blue Soup had just as large a hand in creating this site as Pescado, he provided the space and she (with the help of many other generous people, I might add) initially provided all the booty that everyone loves so much. And she and Pescado disagreed on this subject as well. They didn't let it stop them from making the site though, did they?

And really, where do you think all the booty comes from?? Of course people are still giving money to paysites for the items we have. And you know, it was once the responsibility of everyone in the filesharing community to help pay for shared items, not just a few "checkbook martyrs". Of course, that was back when we were all underground and people like most of you had no idea we existed. So yes, quite a few of us have no problem saying that we have and would pay for items, since we shared it freely. In my opinion, those of you that love the booty but would never dream about taking on any of the cost should thank your lucky stars that there are those of us that will. I'm not saying to kiss anyone's ass, but think twice before reaming people for having paid for items.

I'm sorry if that came off as being a bit bitchy, it kind of gets under my skin when people assume that there is only one right way to do this anti-paysite-filesharing business, since people have been successfully doing it way before Pes came on board. His contribution is by no means insignificant, since he took all the heat when he went public, but his opinion is not the alpha and the omega

*shrug*

That may be the common consensus here at Pescado Land, but I can still have my own opinions and ideas. I know that Blue Soup (who I also don't believe has failed us ) agreed with the idea that some are worse than others far before she and Pescado founded this place. I do agree that booty is booty and that everything you have to actually pay for should end up there, hence why I am here, and why I've been on board for this from the very beginning.

To paraphrase what I said before: Of course they are all wrong for selling paysite content, I don't contest that one iota. Every single one belongs in the booty with no exceptions. I still think there are varying degrees of wrongness, which does not excuse anyone, but separates the mildly evil, and perhaps still redeemable, from the big gaping flesh wound of evil that are TSR and Peggy.

Put another way: I want all paysites to go free, that is the ultimate goal. However, in my mind there is definitely a hierarchy in which I want them to fall. TSR and Peggy first for their terrible quality and the way they seek to milk every cent out of the community that they can. Then sites that are in it predominately for the money and don't even pretend to have any decent free comment (Exnem, for example), and then the smaller sites with only a few pay downloads.

I never said I approve of ATS, just that I consider it a lesser evil. I mean, yes, I consider a paysite a paysite, lets not mince words. However, I just don't rate all offenders the same. I guess part of it is because I like to think that Peggy and TSR have a special place in hell for being such terrible people, and there has to be people that are lesser to make them the MOST EVIL!!!

It is still bad, but I guess it's like this. All people who are convicted of crimes are criminals (theoretically anyway). However, the kid who shoplifts isn't the same level of criminal as the murderer. We still have to spank the kid's ass for stealing, but we aren't going to consider him the same kind of monster as the murderer. It's kind of like that, for me.

And no, before anyone who reads this goes to vilify me on TSR or some other shitty place, I am not really saying that running a paysite is as bad as murdering someone. It's simply an analogy that I thought apt to illustrate my point.

accidental double post. My bad.

OMG! How darez you??? They is all EBIL!!

I've always made a distinction between different site owners and what I consider the levels of evil. For example, ATS and Holy Simoly are less evil than TSR or Peggy. Yes, they still sell stuff, but ATS asks for a one time donation, and Holy Simoly may arguably have a pretty hefty bandwidth bill since they do have quite a bit of lovely free things. Charging for a donation set is still wrong, in my opinion, but for the price they were charging, the quanity and quality of the items in each pack has been substantially higher than most other sites.

Then there are sites that offer quite a few free things, and then put a small percentage of their stuff up for pay. Ebil? Yes, but again, I think less evil than a site that holds the majority of their content hostage, or only puts crappy shit up for free. Lastly,there are sites that are clearly only in it for the money. TSR, Peggy, etc. I consider these the worst offenders. In context of the booty, I suppose these distinctions mean very little, since everything pay ends up there.

I have a site that has a moderate amount of traffic and hosts a fairly active forum. I have a hosting package that gives me 100G of disk space and 1000G of transfer a month on shared hosting for $6.99 a month. A high traffic site with a very active forum may need a dedicated server package, but for most sims sites, that kind of deal is adequate. So why would you need to charge $5 for a donation pack, unless it was to make money?

Some sites have hosting packages that are a bit more expensive, but anything much higher for that kind of space and transfer is just bad shopping on their part. I don't expect people to pay for my hobby either, though I do accept donations to help defray the cost. On a given month, I usually only have to pay a couple dollars out of pocket, and some months not at all.

Hecubus: I know! My jaw just dropped the first time I saw it, I couldn't believe something so quirky, unique and absolutely wonderful actually made it on TV in the US. I still have no idea how it manages to be so bright and fluffy, and so deliciously dark and morbid all at once. Also, Lee Pace is my new geeky boy crush, along with David Tennant. They both have the same excellent taste in footwear

Armywife, I asked the exact same thing a few posts up
If you go get the sim on MTS2, it has the hair mesh for females too. It looks absolutely fantastic in game too.

Ah, fantastic. I didn't see it, I downloaded the non-barbie version from the LJ community. I can't wait to see the rest of the hair colours, though I may break down and just texture some myself

I hope you post all the colours you did of this hair soon, I love it!

Can has for girls too, pls? >.>
It's really unique and awesome, I'd love to be able to use it for both genders.