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46  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs! on: 2009 September 16, 09:32:51
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wouldn't someone that had the programming knowledge have already tweaked s3oc by now? Unless it's just that fact that we know to little at this point.

What would they tweak? It clones and packages all the objects in the game... unless someone wanted to add a million features to bloat the program, fill it full of bugs and pack it full of spyware so its on par with the TSR Workshop..?

But that's just my point. We know to little right now to say for sure that s3oc will even be worth tweaking in the future. I'm not saying chuck it out the window right now and call it worthless, but couldn't some of the features from the workshop be added in? Or to any of the other tools right now? I am more curious as to how many people we have in the community that have that knowledge, that would be willing to step to the plate when need be, and would be willing to tweak or completely overhaul a program if need be. I'm sure the amount of people that can accomplish the task will grow, but will the motivation to do so grow as well?
47  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs! on: 2009 September 16, 09:20:42
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TSR plan to announce that they are adding Wes H ( as staff ) to the development team for Merlin.

According to what I have been told, this is a completely untrue statement.  The actual event does not include any new person joining TSR's staff.  And it most certainly is nothing to do with Merlin.   Of course I can't guarantee I have been told the truth but it came via someone I get on ok with and hasn't been caught out lying to me before.

If this is true, I trust the fact that when TSR makes their statement, if it varies vastly from the knowledge you were told, you would be willing to share it yes? If not, then I don't see the point in dangling in front of us that you know information which deviates from Coconut's information.

s3oc will continue to be available, and can recommence active development any time.  If Peter can't or won't do it himself for any reason, it is all open source and any other capable programmer can take it on.

Hence why I said we would be back to square one. I don't see the point for people to not continue updates on their tools they have provided, other than they just lost interest, or really just can't do it anymore. If it gets to the point, that I won't say "predicted" but I guess "over-exaggerated for the sake of argument," it could be to late. It could already be to far into the game for someone to just resume status. If I remember correctly, didn't some sims 2 expansion packs change some slight coding in some things? Hence why hacks and the latter wouldn't work after certain EP's? If the situation I alluded to doesn't occur until we are 10 EP's deep, it could call for a complete restructure of programs.

Not to mention I am rather curious about this open source. Mainly because, wouldn't someone that had the programming knowledge have already tweaked s3oc by now? Unless it's just that fact that we know to little at this point.

Edit to add: I know, ideally I personally would appreciate it if Thomas had some reassurances to some worries. Not just for myself, but for the community as well. I know it will probably never happen, and Thomas has already given himself a sour name by being almost "forced" to uphold his ends of bargains, but I could just feel better knowing that he couldn't strangle the life and the money out of the community and not have any repercussions.

Maybe if there was something stating for matter of factly on multiple sources that the workshop would never become a pay object, would not make all your creations belong to TSR, and if multiple people took apart the tool to make sure nothing malware was being injected into the hearts of our packages and computers, and Thomas making the workshop open source, definitively, releaseing the bits of code that does change with every EP, then maybe, and just MAYBE I sleep better. But seeing as how that will probably never happen, I will still continue to have my guard up.
48  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs! on: 2009 September 16, 08:10:29
However, just to really post something inflammatory, I would ask everyone to consider the following:   There is no way Peter would have the time, and possibly even the ability, to create something as user-friendly as Workshop.  TSR are paying professional programmers to make their tool and it is being worked on as a full-time job.   This means that some of subscription money they took from us is going back into making something that is free for the community, and better and easier to use than anything the community is willing or able to make for itself at this time.   Like it or not, I think you'll find that the majority of creators both pay and free will switch to using Workshop once the version is out that has all these new features I am testing (NB many of them added at my direct suggestion).  Now I wonder how many anti-TSR players will refuse to download objects made with Workshop, on principle?   You're gonna have to think about boycotting those, if you want to put pressure on people not to support anything TSR does.

*Sigh* This upsets me very much. Where to begin? Well I guess first a couple viewpoints from the "political side."

1. Even if TSR are paying professional programmers to code for their tool, it still doesn't make it alright. I just want to point out that even if it's the tool that is free, it was the community that paid for that tool. He better damn well release it for free. Not to mention, this just goes to show, yet again, that the subscription money taken from TSR doesn't just fund the website. To me it's wrong to take peoples money the way TSR does. You get ripped off for shit items that fuck up your game, and your funding some peoples way of living. Is it my job to provide the extra cash for Sue so she doesn't have to work? No it's not.

Which reminds me of a conversation I read over at Simscave. One of the FA's posted over there about how she did not like TSR, but became a FA to help support her children. I completely understand that as a mother you want to do what you believe is best for your children, and I completely understand that sometimes you have to do things you don't like/want to do, BUT is it really my duty to pay for her children? No. Is it my duty to pay of Openhousejacks porn? No. It's fucked up that that's where the money goes. Not to just maintain TSR and TSR alone.

And to mention that they are paying the programmers implies that I should be "grateful." Well I'm not. I'm grateful when people like Delphy, and Peter, and Jfade spend their spare time to create for this game and make it possible for me to create. Out of the kindness of their hearts. I am not grateful when a company that receives it's money in a foul way, takes it's blood money, and tries to play it off that it's doing something good for the community.

2. By suggesting that the tool is "better and easier to use than anything the community is willing or able to make for itself at this time" to me is a huge slap in the face for anyone who has made any tool. I personally find all the tools I have found to be extremely easy to use. Let's not forget that the free community provided TSR with bits of code to make certain things in their workshop possible. Without those bits of code, TSR's workshop tool would still be light years behind anything the community has to offer, and would be boasting that the only thing they have over those tools is a 3d viewer.

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Like it or not, I think you'll find that the majority of creators both pay and free will switch to using Workshop once the version is out

Personally, I will believe it when I see it. I have seen enough big name creators refuse the service of TSR's workshop to know that at least some creators won't switch over. At the same time, what would stop TSR from say... making the tool pay? After a couple years, if the workshop was the only tool being up kept, what would stop them from charging a measly 3 dollars for it? Then 5 dollars? Then 10 dollars? Next thing you know, in 5 years your paying $29.95 just to create for your hobby. And there wouldn't be a damn thing anyone could do... except make their own tools. Then we are back to square one.

Not to mention, as a creator, I do not like the fact of only being able to choose one program. When I was doing a majority of my creating for sims 2, the only thing I could not chose on whether or not to use was bodyshop. There was a vast pool of different tools to choose from. I do not like the fact that it would be one tool and one tool alone. What if the tool just doesn't work? Let's say an EP comes out. What am I to do if it takes TSR 6 months to update their workshop when the free community could have had it done in 2? It will impose many implications on many people if there wasn't the freedom of choice.

Having done my research, I can now reveal that Coconut has correctly identified some smoke that belongs to a fire, but she has misidentified the details of the fire in quite a big way.

By what you edited your post with, I do not see how coconut has misidentified the details. To refresh you this is what Coconut predicted:

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As ‘lol’ correctly predicted, the new announcement from TSR will be about Wes H. TSR plan to announce that they are adding Wes H ( as staff ) to the development team for Merlin. Tom hopes that this will ‘rock the free community’ in some way.

And to answer your question, the plugins will NOT carry a TOU preventing their use on payfiles.

Merlin is their install tool. Which even then, I do not like the fact that there's the workshop, and now Merlin. What is to stop them from trying to "bribe" other people, such as Delphy, into letting their tools die. I do now like the fact that at this stage in the game, it is very easy for TSR to monopolize the CC corner. I know I would duly appreciate it, but if you happen to know something about the situation that does in fact change what Coconut has said, I would like it to be brought out.

I also would like to let people know, TSR made an announcement yesterday: http://www.thesimsresource.com/news/view-post/post/13442
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Phew, we've finally reached a level with Sims 3 where we have a steady flow of content coming from our Select and Featured Artists (and much more to come as objects are fully released!). So, now the time has come to do a refresh regarding Sims 2. This means we are going to go through and retire and recruit and handful of Artists from the Sims 2 teams.

This also means we are looking for a few good men/women. There are currently 4 Sims 2 FA positions and as many SA positions as we deem necessary available. If you are interested please let us know by contacting me with a private message (or if I contact and invite you). It could be that you have a Sims 2 site you wish to close or whatever the reason, we'd like to hear about it! The FA positions are incentive based and allows you to make some money from your "hobby" - read more about the Select and Featured Artist benefits here.

By this message, it means that either Thomas is wanting to turn as many as his current FA's over to sims 3, and is severly lacking in the creator department for sims 2, or he is just wanting to grab some more creators that see $$ for their content. Of course he has to advertise that the FA's make extra money because the information is already out there, with screenshots to prove it, and it will help grab those that are little bit more than "just greedy."
49  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs! on: 2009 September 16, 02:02:01
Sweet for Modern_sims. I liked most of their creations. Maybe someone could talk to them about hosting over at GOS or MTS. Their creations would probably fit better in with MTS though.
50  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: More Smutty Than You: TSR's Hall of Shame on: 2009 September 07, 21:22:42
Weird thought but since the playboy bunny version of big boobs has been posted again; is there any chance that the modder is blatantly ripping off someone else's something or other?  I keep thinking it's a shame the rest of that outfit is done so poorly as the bottom part of the leotard actually looks reasonably well made (the fabric lays against the skin well and looks fairly realistic I mean).  It's just sort of an odd dichotomy - the bottom looks just fine and the top that's been modified to accommodate the boobage is just a trainwreck. 

The bottom looks well made because from what I can tell, they just took a swimsuit from in game (the low cut V neck one) and pasted an off color of black across the chest to make the bunny suit. If you even look at the neckline, you can see the tiny details EA gave to the suit stop as where the off color black spot begins.
51  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Your Ugliest Paysite Creation Find: Round Two. on: 2009 September 03, 02:56:16
Chaz's sims always look like trannies  Grin
Btw, was it Chaz who posted that Stefan macro at Simsecret ?

Probably, since he was trolling Stefan's modthesims page. If it was him, I love he doesn't even compare the same celebrity.  Roll Eyes
52  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Freesite Creation Finds - Round THREE - The Sims 3 on: 2009 September 03, 00:26:58
Yes the Nouk Sidebraid that doesn't look like a wig. Also just to let you know JWong, the elf ears show up for males to.

Just as forewarning about the braid though, the highlights/roots/tips wasn't built properly on the braid. From the look of it, it seems like they had the purpose of the green/red hues mixed up. So whatever color you set the tips as, it would look like highlights all over the braid, and not sure what happens when you set the highlights.
53  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: SUPPORT THE MUNICIPALITY! on: 2009 September 01, 20:56:46
Damn! I knew I should have spent my money on mousepads and coffee mugs last year instead of that silly wedding thing. Stupid Dee!

Or Pes could be hinting that someone else should do it.  Tongue
54  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Your Ugliest Paysite Creation Find: Round Two. on: 2009 August 31, 00:05:22
Or the downloaders figure they only need to download one of them, since they're identical, and Chichia's file is first on the list....



Bah I never really thought of that.

As for that suit... holy reflective shit batman! I guess it would be a nice idea on paper (a nice silk/satin suit) but the practice is terribad.
55  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Sirona Sims Adds Pay Section? on: 2009 August 31, 00:03:00
My real only concern in all this is how this looks to potential "on the fence" type people. Last thing I would want would be a paysite owner considering going free, and seeing the backlash of it all, then deciding against it.

To be honest I'm really torn with Cord's moves. I cannot decide on whether or not I am angry about what she did. It's upsetting with what she did, making freely available items cost money. But part of me is happy that she went back free. I agree that it's hard to trust her afterwards, but we at least have to give her a shot. Even if it's a "slip up and go pay one or more time..." type of shot. We want to encourage paysites to go free. I'm just torn because I don't want her going free, and the distrust she caused in the members of PMBD, to turn anyone else off from considering becoming free.

I'm very leery of her actions. As Pes says "Do it once, and you show you have the capacity to do it. Do it again and then you have a habit." Or something like that. We can't ostracize her for something she hasn't done, BUT we can't say for certain that she won't do it again.

Personally, I will have to hear something about it to decide. If I hear nothing, then I will assume the worst.
56  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Your Ugliest Paysite Creation Find: Round Two. on: 2009 August 29, 17:58:51
That shirt is terrible!




Would you guys believe me that these were two different sims? Yes, one is Chica, and the other Chicha. They are supposed to be identical twins, who just happen to wear the exact same hairstyle and clothing. To the tee.  Roll Eyes Would you guys also believe when I say Chicha has double the amount of downloads of Chica, and has been favorited twice!?!? Whereas Chica has not. I'm rather curious as to what would go through someone's mind to favorite one and not the other when THEY ARE THE SAME DAMN SIM!? EVEN THEIR FAVORITES ARE THE SAME! Oh wait, one has different traits, that that must make Chicha superior!  Roll Eyes
57  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Look at what I made and om nom nom it! (Post your creations pt. 2) on: 2009 August 29, 03:42:53
Those are fantastic Snarky! I really love the two chairs in the first picture without their arms.
58  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Freesite Creation Finds - Round THREE - The Sims 3 on: 2009 August 28, 20:05:11
I just love Fresh-Prince's creations! Here you have a new one and no, it's not a car  Grin
Many photos so I give you link this time:
http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=366816

Am I the only one who is having issues with MTS today? I can click links to go directly to the download pages, but I can't browse through their download section.  Cry
59  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Freesite Creation Finds - Round THREE - The Sims 3 on: 2009 August 28, 04:46:01
Oh hells yeah!



I luff me some mohawks! Not to mention he has a preview of hairs to come!

Edited to add:  http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=14266.0

Thank you Dr. House for alerting me to my forgetfulness.
60  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Re: Freesite Creation Finds - Round THREE - The Sims 3 on: 2009 August 27, 02:54:50
My question still stands. People still admit to liking the content they find there, still squee when there are recolours or like what HL did. And, they have SAID IT, so... whatever.

I don't think anybody is questioning the quality of Holy Simoly's stuff nor are they judging HugeLunatic (or anybody else) for adding to Holy Simoly sets/recoloring their meshes. The problem is El Diablo posted Holy Simoly stuff in a thread titled "Freesite Creation Finds" and Holy Simoly IS NOT a free site.

Agreed. The quality and preference to their content isn't what was in question. It's more of a situation of their a paysite, and we are paysites must be destroyed. If any other paysite content was posted people would have ripped Diablo a new hole.

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Now, to stick my hand in the fire,
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Yeah, I know, technically they're a paysite because of the donation packs, but I make an exception for Holy Simoly. So, go ahead and throw your punches,
Not to mention he even stated that he knew that posting that could potentially get him an ass chewing and did it anyways. I'm sorry, but if anyone wants to chew him up, have at it.

If I do recall, I remember a conversation on here once where it was discussed that even if someone thought a paysite creators work was decent, it wasn't to be mentioned here. Mainly because this site is all about destroying paysites, and doing so, only offered them free advertising. Besides that, I normally like HS stuff, but do not like those sims. As someone metioned earlier, they look like the exact same sim with minor tweaks to their eyes, lips, and hair color.

Now this next sim is very well made:

http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=14228.0

I don't know why but I've had a weird thing for big noses. I didn't really like them in sims 2, but in sims 3, their face just looks more "normal."
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