Just popped back in to post that there is apparently also a .....New Object Cloner tool!!

http://www.simlogical.com/Sims3ToolsForum/index.php?PHPSESSID=da80bc33478cd9590e24958c616531de&board=20.0

Yay!!

As far as the posts about it being us that were sharing files;  We were accused of being the ones who were sharing store files but it was on the BBS by Drea in a post defending TSR IIRC.  It wasn't here.  She went off on the BBS about how store files were being shared here and many people had to try to set here straight.  She also went over to MATY and had a bitchfest there.

I haven't seen this get any attention anywhere and I am kinda surprised.  We keep talking  about the progress that is being made in developing for Sims 3 but no one is talking bout the fact that Wes put up the first independent working in game OBJECT Friday evening!

http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=358398

It may not be the Prettiest thing but it is tradition of sorts and groundbreaking at best so enjoy. 

Samantha, you don't have the Store Hairs installed right? This may be the confirmation that we were looking for that thaey don't work without the store hair.  I doubt that you did wrong but I would bet money that it is something that Peggy did wrong.

That one does but she isn't distributing that one.  Delphy said they were based on Store hairs which somehow still makes them dependent on them.  I am not sure any of the new ones replace the hairs but you still need them installed to work which she doesn't seem to be making clear.

   

Show them the screencap and tell them "because the Anti-virus says so.  Explain that no one has ever had that message pop up using Delphy's or anyone else's tool and unless TSR can explain why their program needs to phone home just to allow me use if then alternative programs are automatically a better and safer choice.

No matter what the EULA says, Wes's tool does not allow items created with it to be pay.  She can wait for TSR's tool and make pay creations with it or make a tool of her own but even if she interprets the EULA to allow her to sell items, there isn't a way for her to think that the TOU that she agreed to for the tool she used allows for that.  Even TSR realized that in order to sell things this time and try to say " the EULA says I can" that they would have to create their own tools to do it and not rip everything from the free community in order to sell stuff.

Wes and Delphy already have tools that do this.  I don't know anything about it but since we already have creators making accessories (new tattoos and watches etc.) and non replacement clothing and hair meshes, I don't see how this tool does anything that another tool doesn't already do.  They seem to be making their own tool so that they don't have to follow the terms of use of the currently available tools.  I know Wes's tool does not allow creations to be pay.  Peggy has already used the tool and violated the terms in order to sell her "creations".  TSR seems to understand how bad it would be for them to do this so they have to create their own tools so they don't have that issue this time (enough people ripped them last time for using free tools to make objects to sell).

I just saw that and came back over to post.  I guess we will see what happens at TSR now.

Maybe he really wants to set things as pay but is hesitating being the first with a pay item for sims 3.  Their reputation is bad enough so maybe they are waiting for someone else to start the pay thing rolling for this and he keeps jumping the gun.  Being the first is a label that can really stick with someone.  Especially if they know the pirates and others will make sure it does. 

My problem is still with the attitude of the site when you know that is where you got it from.  I wouldn't be as pissed if a site had the attitude of "Wow, we are so sorry that that happened to you at our site!  We will check into it right away and until we know what happened we will suspend ads and get more info from our ad services about this. We certainly wouldn't want anyone else to go through this if we could prevent it."  But that is absolutely not their attitude.  They acted like I shouldn't be complaining to them about something that they were assuming had to be an ad on the site since they don't technically control the ads. (they do have the ability to disable them so they can do something about them but that would compromise their bottom line so that seemed to out of the question.)   It is the typical TSR behavior of blaming the customer instead of taking responsibity for thier site.

I got a virus from TSR almost two years ago.  I notified their admins and I believe it was Thomas that replied to me that it had to be from an ad.  I told him that I didnt really care what on the website caused it, I still felt it was their responsibility.  It was a vundo virus.  He basically told me that they were not responsible for anything in the ads or anything that the ads did since all they did was allow the ads to be on the site.  I responded that by allowing the ads to be there and not monitoring (or dealing with the consequences) of the ads they were disrespecting thier visitors and customers and that if they still insisted on having ads on their site that were at best inappropriate (remember all the smut) and at worst dangerous, then they would have to deal with losing anyone and everyone that I could get to listen to me about visiting thier site.  His only response was something about how it really wasn't fair for them to be blamed for something that thier advertisers did.  I never did get him to understand that as a business he is ultimately responsible for all of the content on his site since he allows it all to be there in the first place. 

It is different when you bring it to the attention of the site owner and they pull the ads or show any regret or gratitude that you have let them know so it can get fixed but to act like "I don't care; not my fault; buy my stuff!"  That is just wrong.  And, no I don't expect anything else form them anyway. It is just a shame that they still don't care.

Dr. House- She is also on TSR so you aren't really mixed up at all.  I think she even uploaded some of the same patterns to TSR as well.

I am playing Sims 3 now but I am creating Perma disks for the downloads that I want to have with my Sims 2 collection and Maxis completer sets are exactly want I want on them so Thanks Snarky and keep them coming!

Here is one of the quotes from Mootilda at MATY.

Well, I do know that a number of people have been discussing tools.  You can see some of the results on Inge's site.  And I believe that at least one of the people involved in those discussions is from TSR.  But, that hardly makes us all collaborators on a TSR tool.  More like one TSR developer might be helping out with some free tools.

At this point, I'm not even sure that I want to get involved with modding TS3.  I've been following some of the discussions, but not contributing, so I know that my name shouldn't be on that list.  Which means that TSR are liars.  Note that I can't speak for anyone else on that list.

It looks to me like they are trying to get support for their tool by using my name without my knowledge or permission.

Earlier in the thread s/he claimed surprise at having seen the name on the list and said they must be "sleep-coding" then since they have no knowledge of it.



 edited to clarify- there was another poster between my first and second post but it was deleted so now it looks like I double posted.  I have now idea what happened there but the poster had quoted me and I was responding to them. (while bringing info anyway)