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1126  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / EA: All Your Mesh Are Belong To Us on: 2006 November 13, 17:35:44
Quote from: "Payton"
What is the deal with all this credit business? What do you get out of it? Seriously, I would really like to know why so many creators demand credit and have such a cow when they don’t get it. Why share what you create if your main priority is to get credit? Is it a fame thing? Are you trying to make a name for yourself is that why? Arent there other more gratifying and meaningful ways to do this? Do you think EA is going to come hire you or something? Hell even the folks at EA dont get any credit for their meshes, do any of these creators that whine about credit ever credit EA?


It's a matter of respect and/or recognition, not of egotripping. If someone writes a song, paints a painting, designs a house, these people are not frowned upon if they want their names on it. Then why the heck do creators of digital content get all this shit? Especially for a game? If it's meaningful to a creator, then let it be. It's not like we're asking you to grovel in the dirt and lick our shoes clean. We are only asking to put down a username. You get all our stuff for free and you can upload anywhere, only a small token to the original artist is required. Why is that such a problem? And I couldn't care less about EA, I'm in nursing school! :lol:

Quote from: "Payton"
I think the thing that really I find amusing is that so many creators put so much of their self worth into making game content. No, not amusing, downright sad really. Its pretty simple to add your information in Simpe is it not? I don’t seem to have any trouble putting my name on/in my packages if I choose to, but that’s not enough apparently. Really it seems what everyone wants to some sort of branding or something. I suppose I create things for different reasons than the rest of the creators, I am a minority it seems and that is fine. I don’t want credit or a big hoopla, I find that stressful, just take your toys and go play with them, if something breaks then fine, let me know, otherwise, go-enjoy, do whatever you want with it, I shared it with you and now its yours and I don’t care what you do with it, least of all hail my name. The whole thing is just incredibly pompous in my opinion, but hey whatever floats your boat I guess. I just cant get over the amount of whining associated with a game of all things. Its become a real killjoy.


I personally respect your opinion, but you should have a more open mind and respect other's opinions too. If someone wants his name on something he/she made, wich is only logical in this world, then let it be. Does it hurt you or something? Pushing an extra few keys on your keyboards? :shock:

Reasons to put proper credit:
* If something broke, you will be able to find the creator and tell them easily.
* People will know where to find more of the same creator.
* The creator will appreciate it. (GOSH no, creators should just STFU and not enjoy giving out stuff!! Heavens, it makes them feel good to see their name on something, NOT ALLOWED NOT ALLOWED!! BUUUURN!!)

It is free, it is good, it is given without anything in return except credit, what more do people want!?
1127  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / EA: All Your Mesh Are Belong To Us on: 2006 November 13, 14:55:13
Nec, I'm fine with it that you have that kind of opinion, but I do not agree at all.

I don't go after people for some 'thanks' but as to proper credit, I highly prefer it! I'd like for people to notice who made certain stuff, so that they can go an look for more or leave an appreciation. I don't see that as wanting honour or worship or more of that bull, I see that as normal  :shock:  I was actually raised to say 'bobby, lucy, or jenny made it' if someone gives me something for free, and I give it to someone else. And at least say 'hey thanks!' to bobby lucy or jenny!
If someone does not credit my work I get very evil. But I'm not searching for mys stuff all over the darn web so I've hardly ever encountered that.
So, if people do not want to say thanks, then tough, I have better things to do than whine about that. But it's still nice, especially when you work hard for something.

What DOES bug me a bit, and what HP was actually talking about, is that Maxis uploads shit without any credit, or allows it. Since this happens on a massive scale, and people don't seem to give a shit who made it. I understand that for HP this is very painfull since she puts her heart and soul into her creations, and I think she deserves the right to offer her stuff anywhere she wants, plus for FRIGGIN FREE!!  If people are too lazy to credit and add a stupid link, is that HER fault? Geez.

I'll just decide to ignore the stupid Exchange and I could care less what happens with my meshes/skins/other stuff there. To me it does not excist,  and no support is given for stuff of mine that might be missing/screwed up/ugly/something else. Not my problem. If people want my stuff they can better go to my site or any other site I upload stuff to myself, because then you at least have a chance to get into contact with me and point me to something that might be wrong so I can fix it. Thanks are always appreciated, but not required. And if anyone wants to screw around with my stuff they'd better do it out of my view. Maxis copyright schmopyright! I'll still stick your head on a pointy pole! :twisted:
1128  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Rose Sims and Paypal on: 2006 November 11, 17:56:55
If you're talking about the post posted under 'Anouk', that was me. It's obvious the other paysites are just using her and letting her take the fall. I see none of them over there supporting her. Very convient for them, huh? :?

Wonder if she's ever heard of competition? Nice friends.

Bluesoup, did anyone contact you on your email, or called you by phone? If so, then she is royally screwed no matter what she does.

I'm not a fan of uploading stuff without one's permission, but sharing such personal info is very dangerous and very illegal.
1129  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Rose Sims on: 2006 November 11, 17:44:28
Holy crap! This is unbelievable  :shock:
1130  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / How do we donate files? on: 2006 November 09, 10:48:51
I wanna be an FA... being able to show my creativity to a larger group of people.....BULL I just want the money!!!  :lol:
1131  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / How do we donate files? on: 2006 November 09, 10:29:42
Not MY Dr_Pixel! I reapeat, NOT MY DR PIXELLLLL!!!!  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
1132  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Another site goes free on: 2006 November 08, 11:58:59
Quote from: "MistressofMerlin"
My only issue is loosing access to meshes and the like, or upsetting the creators I have on my site. While I am ready to go loud and proud, other creators on my site are a little more introverted. I use a different nic here out of respect to them, rather than to the offending pay sites.
-Missy


Applies for making meshes!
1133  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / How much does bandwith cost and how much could they be using on: 2006 November 08, 11:38:56
Sounds really good! But what happens if the site bloats to 500 gigs bandwidth, or more?  :shock:
1134  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Another site goes free on: 2006 November 08, 11:23:09
Delphy don't give a rat's ass what drama ensues on another forum, as long as you don't screw up his and abide by his rules while you are on his forum. Sounds like a good fair deal to me. And yes, I heard this first hand.
1135  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Why do people pay for some of this stuff? on: 2006 November 08, 10:40:47
LOL you should know the rude comments I get by PM, like:

"I'm SO angry! I can't get that hair because the MESH aint included! WHY IS THAT!!"

"I WANT THE GUY IN THE PICTURE! I WANT THE GUY IN THE PICTURE! I WANT THE GUY IN THE PICTURE! I WANT THE GUY IN THE PICTURE! I WANT THE GUY IN THE PICTURE! "

"Ewww don't make pink hair! That's so ugly!"

No need guiessing their ages.
1136  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / Why do people pay for some of this stuff? on: 2006 November 08, 10:22:44
Also, paying for an item in the community is becoming a status symbol among younger players.  :lol:
1137  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / EA: All Your Mesh Are Belong To Us on: 2006 November 08, 00:44:36
NOT my tv! I wanna watch teletubbies and see the republicans win the elections! GO BUSH
1138  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / EA: All Your Mesh Are Belong To Us on: 2006 November 08, 00:39:32
WHY YOU!!

I will just take my site offline and blackkat.. blackshat... blackwhatever the hell out of you!
1139  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / EA: All Your Mesh Are Belong To Us on: 2006 November 08, 00:35:43
Yeah, damnit.

I MEAN IT! DON'T MAKE FUN! YOU'RE FIRED!!
1140  The Pirate Ship / ARR! / EA: All Your Mesh Are Belong To Us on: 2006 November 08, 00:31:48
Let me be the first, just to have some fun.

"Dear EA/Maxis/Whatever,

You are stealing my mesh!! The mesh I extracted from YOUR game with SOMEONE ELSES tools, a mesh I have been selling for 3 bucks a download, damnit! And to make matters worse, I spent 3 hours modifying YOUR mesh into something that looks EXACTLY the SAME but it's MINE!

Damnit! I'll Sue!!!

Greetings from Nouk.


p.s. that skintone made of SOMEONE ELSES POSER SKINS I made, it's mine, I'll get a lawyer, take it off!"
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