I lost my next beautiful reply to that thread! I can read, but I'm having posting issues. Walt's name isn't showing up in the list of active users, as far as I can see.

Pescado, if I was worthy, I'd have your kids. Even if they ate me afterwards!
 

I don't know about you, but I feel like getting rid of that reminder about not posting recently...  

Paden, I can't wait to see your resignation speech.

That's exactly how I feel. I would repost a recolour or a new mesh that K&E did, but fucking around with someone else's code means that I would recognise he did the mod, but that it's pure EA and therefore fair game.

Do Want!

Kittens or kittehs?

Baaaaaaa!

I<3 neriana.

There are certain things I use insim for - mainly things like breaking and making family ties, adjusting ageing in finer increments than what the blender offers, and other things. I use InSim, Inge's cat, TJ's blender and JM's debugger all together for the perfect solution.

As for the InSim hack itself, it Walt-World comes back up and InSim is available free there then there is no worries about having to Mirror it. However, if Walt-World goes pay, or gets the plug pulled because we go for option #3 and Walt ends up burning the site, then I would expect the hack to be in the graveyard or similar.

I really disagree with you on this Paden, I don't feel this is anything like what DL does. It's code, pure and simple, all the ingame objects are pulled from the game files themselves. All Eric was doing was putting them in one place. As I said earlier, Eric's behaviour in regards to InSim was a slap in the face for many of the modders, as he acted like he owned the code, when all he did was find it and give it a user interface pulled from the game. Eric was totally anal in the early days about people using the code he used, or looking at the InSim object to find what it referenced. He acted like he owned the code. It was bullshit then, and it's bullshit now. If Walt-World burns, or goes pay, I will treat it like anything else that gets abandoned or made pay. In the mean time my mirroring the hack is to help keep the Walt-World server up long enough for Pescado to finish.

Suggesting that I am in the same league as DL is a real slap in my face.

My take on the InSim is that its just mangled EAxis code, therefore up for grabs. I'm not suggesting anyone redistribute their individual creations where they made textures against their TOS, but lets be honest, every part of the InSim came from the game. That's why it was so funny back in the day when Eric got butthurt about Pes using code that Eric had gotten to first when Pes hacked Lethe_s cauldron.

EA owns the InSim, start to finish, because Eric did not make a single part of it from scratch, just spent time manipulating the existing code. I have no issues with InSim being redistributed, on a graveyard site, my site, whatever - at least while it is considered "up to date". What's the difference between this hack and any other hack that shared after the creator Soups from the community? This isn't special.

That being said, it doesn't need to be on PMBD, or the WFIS, but it has a right to be shared.

Is this in regards to InSim or Enayla's stuff?

Watching Wank has reminded me of the lulz I get from watching Deal or No Deal.

Wank: Internetz is srs bizns, show me moniez!
Delphy: $2500 and you fuck off.
Wank: Noes, I want MOAR! Iz Investment!
Pes: Here's $10. Fuck off.
Wank: Lose.

I'm inclined to write off the months server costs and bandwidth as a life lesson for Wank, along with the monies he paid K&E.

Generally I haven't seen the insim create problems once it's been updated for an ep. Theoretically, it shouldn't need much, if any, support.

Happy to do my bit to stick it to Walt.

On a side thought, I am left curious as to what lengths K&E misrepresented the site to Walt for him to be surprised at the whole "money only for hosting expenses" thing. One would imagine that they showed him enough of an income to justify a lump sum payment. To me it indicated that K&E have been making a tidy profit from InSim. I also wonder if we could get access to the information shown to Walt, if we could go after them for scamming money while they were running InSim.

I guess I just really want to see Karma and butthurt catch up with those two. It appears Karma has already found Walt.  

All three editions are available now too.