Walt has taken insim to his underwater lair, where it sits next to his dolphin statue collection.  Pescado is trying to get it back, but is a slow moving process because not everyone is reading the thread here and instead only worried about how to get downloads and therefore causing moar problems.

I thought maybe just temporarily put the forum up and then moved the downloads over by reuploading them.    I'm not sure how much there is so this might just be too much work entirely.   How much chat was going on that people felt compelled to save at insim adult?  Or at least if vB was important enough to everyone it might be worth it to save the money?  You could place downloads in an adult section that was hidden unless you had a password or registered to be over 18, and I think 12s could get into insim adult if they really wanted to anyhow.

$360 per year plus another $80 to renew every year seems a bit pricey to me as well when there are plenty of free or cheaper options available, but I am not one to tell people how to spend there money.  Just trying to offer suggestions, though they may be unrealistic.  I wouldn't know I was never over at the adult site.  

If this is so important to people could you maybe combine forums so that it would only be $180 for one (without phone support) and then $40 per year license.  Now since you don't need separate donations, assuming all donations will come through MATY or here, you could just password protect the area? 

I am not advocating wild theories or opinions on anything, even though sometimes we tend to do exactly just that when it comes to paysites, and without evidence it's just as meaningless.  I think most of us could wade through that in order to find some truth in what is going on, and to keep the subject on tract.  However, if they are unwilling to answer for their behavior that is suspicion enough, for someone to say "something is not right here, we need some explanation, maybe we should work together to get some or at least call them out royally for not giving any."   I'm sorry I don't think the risk of speculation is any reason to avoid situations like this in the future, be it pay or free.  Especially if the other end can easily clear the situation up by giving an explanation instead of avoiding and neglecting concerns.  

As for the excess of devoted, OMG I love X fans!, that's all part of the very problem, that extends past this K&E situation.   People are ingrained to think just because something is free for them then essentially anything free creators do is ok, when clearly this is not the case.   The more we avoid the subject the more likely it will be that people will be duped.  Plus, this site as seen plenty of asskissing rantings of paysite fans afraid that their precious peggy or rose will leave, it's nothing we haven't dealt with before.

I completely agree.  It seems as if free creators tend to be immune when it comes to acting like a jackass, in regards to they way they treat say, file distribution and members.  It's unacceptable, that they shouldn't be subjected to the same standards as any normal member or human being just because they make free sims content.  Respect should be earned and not just given.    

Despite our lack of concrete evidence regarding donation money or ant-PMBD policy, K&E were only showing up every so often to beg for money for the site.  She wouldn't use the donation software cala sent her.  From what I have heard, before this whole Walt issue, they were none too nice to any of them members who tried to ask questions concerning their behavior.  People tried asking nicely and were told to STFU and mind their own business.  I don't think we have to get a warrant when things look fishy in order for us as a community to question what the hell is going on.  Were not the NYPD.  Policing ourselves and others is pretty much what we do.  Perhaps, if more people were 'allowed' to speak up earlier on a platform were they could be heard the 'Walt' issue would never have been an issue, or at the very least people wouldn't have been scrambling last minute to try to fix a situation that quickly spun out of control.    

I thought he was kinda trying to do both.  

That's why PMBD shouldn't ever be censored.  You never know why you are going to need Pescado in a pinch.

I don't know that there is much anyone can save maybe mass emailing or a sticky at insim about the situation, and either of those things could cause Walt to lockdown the place.  So I don't know that complaining is going to get us anywhere.  Just hope that Pes gets what he needs.  

Really?  That's interesting.

I heard there was some controversy about the fact they compare it to a mushroom, when really it's not, and that some people have had some really bad experiences with it (digestion-wise).  We don't eat it very often though, maybe 3 time a year.  We are more apt to make seitan, which we jokingly pronounce satan because it sounds kinda similar.   

PS.  I need to tell everyone I know they pronouncing it wrong. 

I had to laugh at that name actually, because there is a fake meat product called Quorn which ironically is not made from corn, even though it is pronounced so.  My boyfriend has me buy every so often to make him Tacos.  It's pretty bread-like.

True.  But honesty is almost never the easy way out, and I believe that is exactly what they were bargaining for.  It's the same reason they neglected to even notify their own staff of the changes.  They would have been subject to alot of criticism.  Selling the site to Walt was easier.  They got the money from someone who was probably more than willing and were able to check-out without having to deal with the drama, anger and hurt feelings.    

Not necessarily.  All it takes is one or two people to take the initiative and the rest of the people who want to be a part of it will come.  That's pretty much what happened with SFV/simscave.  Ofcourse SFV was "temporarily" down for like the billionth time, but after I talked to Ferris who kinda had a temp site up, her and a couple of others had a new forum up within a few days, and the majority of people just moved on over.  I don't think a ton of planning went into it, just alot of work and help.

Sometimes you just need to move on, and shake of the bad vibes. 

Edit: Nevermind I totally missed the small print. I need to go put the glasses back on.

No I think it's just some weird phenomenon where people are unable to see things from anothers point of view until they are in the same situation.  Unfortunately, most people don't even realize they are doing this, and when you point out that they are behaving in the same way they will find some way to convince themselves that the situations are entirely different for them.  

I can't believe you guys are giving this money hungry d-bag a chance.  He's not going to talk to you until he realizes he is failing miserably and that is his only option left.  If he does say anything it will be the same regurgitated shtick that he has been feeding into the rest of his posts.  He doesn't want your complaints, companionship or opinions (unless they help him make more money) he wants you to work for him much like a boss wants his employers to work.  He wants you to help deal with what he deems problems, take orders, be supportive of him and most importantly make him money.

He's an ass.  He dropped this bomb of an announcement yesterday knowing full well what day it was and then is using Thanksgiving as a reason to excuse himself from the ensuing uprising.  If he really gave a shit would be actively working with staff to help resolve...yet for some reason took the time to set up a poll to try to forecast how much money he could milk out of a subscription system.  That's exactly where his interests lies, in money.  

I am so glad to hear people are leaving.  I hope both the turkey and the forum are left cold for him. 

 

I think the question is how is he going to make money off of it.  Walt is not a charity, he bought the site, for profit, so him playing off like he just wants to make ends meet is BS.  



Yeah I don't think those are going to be dying down until the site does as well.  


That's exactly how I feel.  He may make some money, but I don't feel like things are done with the purpose of making money.  I do hope Delphy acquires insim, I am not going to donate one cent under Walt.   

He didn't have time to study the ways of business.  He was too busy learning his histories.