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Title: S2CHost (Free Sims 2 Hosting) Implements Organized Plans!
Post by: BV on 2008 January 25, 15:26:19
I've been told numerous times that people reject S2CHost (A free Sims 2 webhost) (http://www.s2chost.info/) as their host because there are no official plans. I've decided to implement official plans.

These are the three new plans:

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Child
Disk Space: 2 GB
Bandwidth: 20 GB
MySQL Databases: 2
(Ad-free)
-Subdomain Only-

Child is the default subdomain hosting plan. Child plans get 2 GB of space and 20 GB of transfer, more than enough to get a site started. There is no advertisement.
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Teen
Disk Space: 5 GB
Bandwidth: 50 GB
MySQL Databases: 5
(88x31 button link to S2CHost - Homepage Only)

Teen is the default domain plan. All domains use Teen as their default. Teen plans require an 88x31 button linking to S2CHost on the homepage only.
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Adult

Disk Space: 10 GB
Bandwidth: 100 GB
MySQL Databases: 10
(Ad-free, must apply separately to join.)

Adult is the exclusive plan. You must apply for Adult hosting and you must meet the guidelines:
1) You must have been hosting with S2CHost for one month with a complete Sims 2 site (No "under construction" areas).
2) You must get at least 25 unique visitors a day.
No ads are required with Adult hosting.


I also host custom plans for large sites.

Need free hosting for your new Sims-related site? S2CHost is where it's at!

P.S. What's Jessica's new username? When I went on it was wickedone but now she changed it...please post it if you know!


Title: S2CHost (Free Sims 2 Hosting) Implements Organized Plans!
Post by: calalily on 2008 January 25, 15:35:58
ws-jessica is jessica.  I'm good for hosting (thanks to my beloved Sublime - who rock  :D ) But mine would be too big for that *even* a month after I started.  I wouldn't class it as a "large" site now - it's a little corner out in the middle of nowhere - it's not large though.


Title: S2CHost (Free Sims 2 Hosting) Implements Organized Plans!
Post by: SparklePlenty on 2008 January 25, 15:36:11
She is WS-Jessica

Good on you for organizing the hosting plans, making it easier to understand.


Title: S2CHost (Free Sims 2 Hosting) Implements Organized Plans!
Post by: BV on 2008 January 25, 16:34:16
Quote from: "calalily"
ws-jessica is jessica.  I'm good for hosting (thanks to my beloved Sublime - who rock  :D ) But mine would be too big for that *even* a month after I started.  I wouldn't class it as a "large" site now - it's a little corner out in the middle of nowhere - it's not large though.


How much would be good for a medium site? I have 600 GB of space and 6,000 GB of bandwidth..just trying to share it evenly.

Is 20 GB of space and 250 GB of bandwidth a good size? I can add an Elder plan if that works.


Title: S2CHost (Free Sims 2 Hosting) Implements Organized Plans!
Post by: calalily on 2008 January 25, 16:49:37
I have no idea - I just know that I wouldn't have fit any of those plans when I started out - and that I wouldn't have known anyway.  :D


Title: S2CHost (Free Sims 2 Hosting) Implements Organized Plans!
Post by: BV on 2008 January 25, 19:44:33
Quote from: "calalily"
I have no idea - I just know that I wouldn't have fit any of those plans when I started out - and that I wouldn't have known anyway.  :D


If there is any chance you can get the usage stats from Jessica or Nouk I can use them to create a new plan for everyone with a medium-sized site.


Title: S2CHost (Free Sims 2 Hosting) Implements Organized Plans!
Post by: calalily on 2008 January 25, 19:57:31
No - I'm not Jess or Nouk  :lol: .  They would have them - not me.  :D


Title: S2CHost (Free Sims 2 Hosting) Implements Organized Plans!
Post by: Moune on 2008 January 25, 23:04:24
Just out of curiosity: Those bandwidth figures, are they a day, a month or a year?


Title: S2CHost (Free Sims 2 Hosting) Implements Organized Plans!
Post by: Anouk on 2008 January 25, 23:10:27
Sims 2 sites need much more bandwidth than they need space, usually.
Not sure how much our sites usually use... the more medium sites use about 100 gigs. The smaller ones around 50 or less. The giant ones use the number of the devil.


Title: S2CHost (Free Sims 2 Hosting) Implements Organized Plans!
Post by: BV on 2008 January 26, 00:09:01
Quote from: "Anouk"
Sims 2 sites need much more bandwidth than they need space, usually.
Not sure how much our sites usually use... the more medium sites use about 100 gigs. The smaller ones around 50 or less. The giant ones use the number of the devil.


So would a Child = 2 GB Space, 25 GB Bandwidth;Teen = 5 GB Space, 7 GB Bandwidth;Adult = 10 GB Space, 200 GB Bandwidth;Elder = 25 GB Space, 500 GB Bandwidth; system work?

I can change it if need be...I have around 400 GB Space and 400,000 GB Bandwidth I'm willing to give out.


Title: S2CHost (Free Sims 2 Hosting) Implements Organized Plans!
Post by: Lorelei on 2008 January 26, 00:26:39
BV, you are fantastic!

That is all.


Title: S2CHost (Free Sims 2 Hosting) Implements Organized Plans!
Post by: ws-jessica on 2008 January 26, 01:55:07
well, most sites are not small for very long, even if they themselves dont advertise their site, word of mouth gets them lots of visitors. Tyler's site (simplysims2) officially opened last month and would already be hitting the max on your small plan--without really even advertising the site anywhere besides mts2/s2c/pmbd sigs lol

hostingplan-wise i think
small = 0-20gb
medium = 20-75gb
large = 75-125gb
xlarge = 125gb-200gb
uber large =200gb or higher (nouk/lapink/graveyard)

half of wnf would be using your "adult" plan, those are our smaller sites. the other half would need a larger plan.

examples using wnf stats from last month:
sims2vips and illusions of grandeur  both used 40gb each
kamikitten used 75gb (i think it was her first month with us at that point)
pixel dolly used about 30gb
adele-sims and poisonpinklemons both used over 100gb each
wnf site itself used over 50gb
lapink used over 200gb
stefan used about 75gb
subkitten used 60gb

note: this is just bandwidth usage, most people do not need more than 5-10gb of space unless they are nouk or larger than nouk.

and i bet you havent heard of most of their sites lol
compared to nouk though, all of these sites are "small", nouk is medium, and some of the more famous sites would be considered large.

as i said before, you could either host a few medium sized sites or a bunch of tiny beginner sites, but eventually they'd become popular and you'd need to upgrade.
Oh and i dont know why you're offering so many sql databases, most people only need ONE, if any. And your host probably wont even allow them to use more than one because it will "get too popular" and start "using too many cpu resources"  :roll: (thats what most shared hosts do)

You definitely wouldnt be able to help out the more popular sites or any paysites due to their bandwidth usage, sql usage, etc they would need more than what you could offer on shared hosting on a server you dont own. So I hope you dont get too ambitious with this thing lol But i hope you can help out some small sites :)

also, im not a pro at this, i've only been doing the server thing for 6 months now, and have been hosting sites for a little over a year. I'm basing this more on my experience than anything else. Delphy, kathy, pes, would be more in-the-know about these things than i would lol


Title: S2CHost (Free Sims 2 Hosting) Implements Organized Plans!
Post by: BV on 2008 January 26, 03:49:10
Thank you so much for the statistics, Jess! I'll use them to create new plans to replace these.

Also, this is bandwidth per month, for whoever asked.

I've heard of them all except Sims2VIPS, Kamikitten, Pixel Dolly, and Stefan.


Title: S2CHost (Free Sims 2 Hosting) Implements Organized Plans!
Post by: Pescado on 2008 January 26, 04:39:43
Given that you are not charging for these plans, what is the point in dividing them up into different-sized packages? It seems to be that the logical outcome is that people will just take the largest available whether or not they use it all.


Title: S2CHost (Free Sims 2 Hosting) Implements Organized Plans!
Post by: BV on 2008 January 26, 13:02:07
Quote from: "Pescado"
Given that you are not charging for these plans, what is the point in dividing them up into different-sized packages? It seems to be that the logical outcome is that people will just take the largest available whether or not they use it all.


The reason is that I have to expect that whoever is using that account is going to use all the space I give them. If someone doesn't use the space I will downgrade them to a lower plan until they need a larger one. I had around 100 people on S2CHost. But what I could do is a plan like this:

Child
5 GB Disc Space
200 GB Bandwidth/Month
2 MySQL Databases
Ad-Free

Teen
10 GB Disc Space
400 GB Bandwidth/Month
4 MySQL Databases
Must Apply

Adult
20 GB Disc Space
1,000 GB Bandwidth/Month
10 MySQL Databases
Must Apply

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So basically, the basic plan is the basic plan. If your site needs a larger plan there will be an application box? If that would work then I can get started tonight and finish editing the site and everything hopefully by the end of the weekend.


Title: S2CHost (Free Sims 2 Hosting) Implements Organized Plans!
Post by: Saraswati on 2008 January 26, 20:06:29
I actually think you're exactly right in implementing the plans.. Because barring people on this forum and places like maty, most people adore structure even when they don't need it.


Title: S2CHost (Free Sims 2 Hosting) Implements Organized Plans!
Post by: Ren on 2008 January 27, 08:07:52
Those are insane bandwidth counts.  I have the urge to recommend you keep the original plans and instead teach people how to not get sucked into an image-hit black hole, lol.


Title: S2CHost (Free Sims 2 Hosting) Implements Organized Plans!
Post by: Pescado on 2008 January 27, 12:27:43
I dunno why people bother to list "mysql databases" like they're some kind of limited commodity. They aren't, they're just one more piece of disk space. Besides, I can't really imagine any single site ever needing more than 1, maybe 2. It's like all this crap is just razzle-dazzle to seem more impressive to people who don't understand. Really, I don't see why you bother.


Title: S2CHost (Free Sims 2 Hosting) Implements Organized Plans!
Post by: Moune on 2008 January 27, 13:24:19
Quote from: "Ren"
Those are insane bandwidth counts.  I have the urge to recommend you keep the original plans and instead teach people how to not get sucked into an image-hit black hole, lol.


Thanks Ren! I suddenly felt like a complete dwarf with my 30 GB bandwidth consumption a month.  I mean, I know it's a small site, but it's not THAT small.   :wink:


Title: S2CHost (Free Sims 2 Hosting) Implements Organized Plans!
Post by: BV on 2008 January 27, 13:52:59
Okay Pescado, I won't put the MySQL databases in there. I put them in because a lot of other hosts put them in and sometimes people compare between what they offer and what I offer.

And Ren, I also decided I'll lower bandwidth. This is what I come up with now:

Child
5 GB Disc Space
100 GB Bandwidth/Month
Ad-Free

Teen
10 GB Disc Space
200 GB Bandwidth/Month
Must Apply

Adult
20 GB Disc Space
500 GB Bandwidth/Month
Must Apply