Well, maybe she means her husbands name is 'government' ?

And who exactly do the wrong hands belong to? Terrorists? Like, if you kill paysites the terrorists have won?   :roll:

Jan,
We don't believe you. No one called you. The police are not intercepting anything over the intarwebz sent to your computer. Don't be crazy. We are grown-ups over here, who have actual knowledge of the way the police work, and I'd bet my left tit (the better tit, mind you) that they have their internet crimes divisions pretty darn busy looking for sex offenders and identity thieves.

Ok, thanks, I read thru this thread last night, but couldn't remember if it was posted and didn't want to waste time before the MTS2 thing was deleted....

totally sucks that it's deleted I would have loved to see what the response would have been to it on mts2

here I got it up here

http://www.philosimphy.com/postofwhackjobsletter

oh and if I can just add that this person is so clueless it's sad. Yeah, she's done her "investinggatin"... well maybe the problem is that she investigated, but that she can't read.

I just came from this thread on MTS2

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=241882&goto=newpost

I'm not sure if a copy of the letter was posted in this thread....
if the thread at MTS2 gets deleted, I caught it on a screenshot...

My understanding is that past uploads that have screenshots of pay content is OK, it's only from here on out that uploads will be rejected for shots with pay...  So your past shots aren't a waste

You make a lot of excellent points....

And I've never understood the argument of why bother when the Sims3 is right around the corner. My understanding is that paysites came about back in the sims1 days, and carried over to the sims2, so it's only sensible to think that paysites will carry over into the sims3. If EA made a statement now, it could head off any future sims3 paysites right now. Unless they don't really want to stop them...  :roll:

I read that the pirate plays the accordion, and that if you cheer him up he will teach you how to play it so you can impress your friends.  I think I read that in the lies and propganda thread at MATY...
yah, found a link...
http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,8140.msg249637.html#msg249637

I sent a letter myself, as part of that campaign, but here I was more specifically meaning one directed to EA's possible hooking up with TSR.... not so much as a plea to do away with Paysites, but as a plea to not hook up with the worst of all the paysites....  Jeez, I personally would rather EA endorsed tiny paysites than the biggest fucker on the block.

But I agree it will definitely be interesting

If I was in charge of this thing... I'd

1) Start a letter writing campaign to EA telling them the things we find wrong with TSR. Everything from the hideously confusing layout, to creators works being held after they leave, to the structure of subscrip vs free items and the way said structure changes, in an effort to help them understand that backing TSR is not the way to go.

2) Start a campaign on the BBS. Using accounts sparingly, as we will most likely get banned, so that everyday for as long as is possible there would be at least one "Boycott TSR and here's why" thread. Hopefully the threads would be phrased in a way so that EA understands that we are it's customers, and we choose NOT to do business with TSR. This would do to get EA's attention, as well as to alert any noobies to the community about what is going on.


ok end of list and now just a few thoughts....

EA siding up with TSR also seems to be a bad thing for all of those smaller paysites. If EA sends down the command that only sites with EA's stamp of approval may charge money, that's going to fuck all the smaller paysite owners. Paysite owners would be wise to turn free (ad-based or donation based) now more than ever, before they are squashed by their own kind.


edit to add after reading armywife's post....

I can see that as being an issue... but damn.... when I was at sky sterlings (sterlingDT) forum, the simposium, there was a letter writing campaign about a year or so ago, where we pleaded with them about people having uncredited items on the exchange and we were pretty much ignored. Maybe EA doesn't mind people uploading uncredited free items, but they will stick up for those who upload pay items...  that's fucked up if that's the case. We free creators are willing to share, we only wanted our names preserved in the CC lists as the original creator. Though I haven't uploaded any of my own CC to the exchange in a while so maybe this has changed...

In any event, I've pretty much been waiting to see what EA will do in this whole situation, and if this TSR/EA phone call amounts to nothing I will fall back into the shadows....  If it turns out that EA is teaming up with TSR, I will be mad, and vocal, as hell.

Well, my goodness. That certainly seems like more of a definite statement about EAs take on paysites than any answer they send  in e-mails.  I mean doesn't that show absolutely that EA is planning to defend paysites? Otherwise wouldn't they have said "Fuck you, we're not removing anything, it all technically belongs to us."

I dunno, this whole paysite stuff has never really concerned me. It's always been more important to me that I can find stuff that the creators allow to be used in uploaded lots than anything else. But if EA aligns itself with a mess like TSR, I think they are making a big mistake. It's such a shame. Can we not flood the BBS with "boycott TSR" posts so that EA realizes that if they expect to get a cut of $ from the big bad TSR, that they might not be able count on such a big take....

Yes yes I read the threads.... pro paysite? Me? No! Someone who knows me won't you stick up for me?  
 either way let me clarify...

I didn't mean to say that MTS2 would offer pay content, but that it seemed people were hoping that MTS2 would turn a blind eye to pay content included in uploads.

Hey! I said that!
It might have been buzz in the community, or it might have just been the voices in my head....

I'm not sure it's so sudden, Delphy has been quite active in the paysites debates on S2C lately. Mostly he seems to be wanting to find ways to promote free sites over pay sites.... he has even offered help to free site owners needing technical advice....

My understanding is that, for example, if you made a set of lipsticks, and you have a model with fabulous pay hair in your screenshots, that is what won't be allowed. Makes sense to me, if you're not offering the hair, people will constantly ask, where's the hair from and it only serves to give the paysite a free ad.

However, it seems that if you have a sim that you are uploading, with only free content on it, and there happens to be a corner of a pay site table in the pic, that will be ok, because it's unlikely that the bit of table will get much attention...

In general, I think it's a good policy.

http://forums.sims2community.com/showthread.php?t=23345

Here's that thread...