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« on: 2007 June 17, 09:43:30 »
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Hi all.  I hope I'm not repeating an earlier thread, but I found this hair mesh and the name irritated me no end.  It's not the first time I've seen this, it's the straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak:

http://www.thesimsresource.com/downloads/sims2/body/hair/female/page46in3612items/



Now, they're pushing that mesh with the garnier trademark, and it's a pay item.  Is it just me or is that wrong somehow?  I wonder what Garnier would think of others making money from their brand?

I thought it would be good to open a thread and keep track of all the people doing it.  If one was really evil, they could contact the companies whose trademarks are being used, but I don't know if that's so wise as one wouldn't want negative attention on EA Games, cause they make the crackalicious goodness that is the Sims and if anyone gets blamed for this, it'd probably be them.

Eager to know your thoughts, folks.
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« Reply #1 on: 2007 June 17, 10:45:56 »
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Yep, they cant do that - selling trademarked/copyrighted items is illegal

See here on what happened when someone reported an example of this Wink

Gah...so selling sims content isnt illegal enough for them, so they rip off trademarks?!  :roll: What are they drinking..
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« Reply #2 on: 2007 June 17, 10:57:15 »
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I'd imagine something along the lines of 'hey! Garnier's popular! Let's rip them off and earn lots and lots of monies off of gullible sheep!'
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« Reply #3 on: 2007 June 17, 11:16:21 »
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Prada perfume by ChazDesigns at TSR
is an illegal exploitation of their trademark. Quoted from Prada website (found under 'Legal')

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(Theres more than that, chopped it down cos its too lengthy Wink )
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« Reply #4 on: 2007 June 17, 12:46:03 »
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Plus, of course, a gazillion different instances of paysites making sims-renditions of proprietary furniture, artwork, rugs, curtains, etc.  I'd guess that's equally illegal even without an explicit trademark.
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« Reply #5 on: 2007 June 17, 13:42:41 »
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Quote from: "dietofworms"
Plus, of course, a gazillion different instances of paysites making sims-renditions of proprietary furniture, artwork, rugs, curtains, etc.  I'd guess that's equally illegal even without an explicit trademark.

That's probably not. There does exist an apparently legal market in knockoffs, after all, which are basically imitations of the original devoid of the trademark.
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« Reply #6 on: 2007 June 17, 14:13:54 »
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Has anyone taken a look at elmazzz? Just about every (if not every) makeup set is named and "based" on high end proprietary, trademarked make-up. Lancome, Bijoris, Clinique... the list just goes on and on.

I know some were really upset about the Starbucks, Krispy Kreme and most recently the Subway set, but TSR "creators" are doing it much more often and much more blatantly.

I wonder what would happen if people started turning them in like they did the smaller paysite owners that created the Starbucks,  Krispy Kreme and Subway sets? Would Lancome, et al care?
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« Reply #7 on: 2007 June 17, 15:25:55 »
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I wonder what would happen if people started turning them in like they did the smaller paysite owners that created the Starbucks,  Krispy Kreme and Subway sets? Would Lancome, et al care?


If they did care, would they take it up with EA or TSR itself? As if they did with EA, the number of complaints (which would be massive) could help sway them to the point where they get rid of TSR... :roll:

TSR must be destroyed
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« Reply #8 on: 2007 June 17, 15:30:19 »
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Any instances yet of anyone selling the H&M trademark?  I have a new internet friend at MarkMonitor the company paid to protect H&M from counterfeits/improper use of trademark and have been trying to explain this whole selling pixels business to him.
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Any instances yet of anyone selling the H&M trademark?  I have a new internet friend at MarkMonitor the company paid to protect H&M from counterfeits/improper use of trademark and have been trying to explain this whole selling pixels business to him.


Nothing but a few recolors on TSR that I have seen and I am not sure if they were pay or free.
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« Reply #10 on: 2007 June 17, 15:58:28 »
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Quote from: "dietofworms"
Plus, of course, a gazillion different instances of paysites making sims-renditions of proprietary furniture, artwork, rugs, curtains, etc.  I'd guess that's equally illegal even without an explicit trademark.

That's probably not. There does exist an apparently legal market in knockoffs, after all, which are basically imitations of the original devoid of the trademark.


You would say that, since you're secretly Thomas!!!11einz

Wait, this is not the conspiracy, truth or openhouse thread! Sorry, continue on Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: 2007 June 17, 17:32:56 »
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I've been seeing an awful lot of those phony makeup ads lately, usually with a 'simmerized' model sporting some makeup that is supposed to look like something said brand would make. In all honesty though, most of the ads look like crap and the makeup looks more like $2 hooker wear than high fashion. I can't imagine any of those brands would want their name splashed all over, especially not stuff like that.

I mean really, in the picture given as an example, what does it say about Garnier? That they make bland, flat haircolour?
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« Reply #12 on: 2007 June 17, 17:40:43 »
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that may be why they now have this posted at the Exchange.

http://bbs.thesims2.ea.com/community/bbs/messages.php?threadID=cb7f95bd4a6826840662393473f30b9a&directoryID=24&startRow=1&openItemID=item.24,root.1,item.43,item.61,item.104,item.41,item.127


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Author:  MaxoidDramaLlama - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile  
Date:  May-03-07 04:21 PM PDT
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Hey Simmers,  
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but copyrighted material is not allowed in the exchange. I see many awesome creations everyday, but certain characters or designs are actually owned by other companies. Unfortunately I'm going to have to hide those creations.

I just wanted to let you know, it's not because it wasn't cool, it's just because we want to be sure we don't step on any toes.

-Keep on Creating!
 
 


I guess this is EA easing thier way out before it hits them
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« Reply #13 on: 2007 June 17, 17:50:37 »
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Quote from: "liegenschonheit"
I mean really, in the picture given as an example, what does it say about Garnier?

What's a "Garnier", and exactly what product is being peddled? All I see a sim's hair. You can't trademark someone's hair!
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« Reply #14 on: 2007 June 17, 17:53:09 »
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Garnier sells hair care products. Shampoo, haircolor.
http://www.garnierusa.com/_en/_us/home.aspx?overlay=1#
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