And that makes all the difference, it seems.  We see Dot, Tug, Padre, Atwa, and Neptune Suzy posting in that thread from the beginning but no one is even attempting to sign their guestbooks or has really delved into it here.  A&G, however, are here and have been free for a bit so they get the flak?  They've said they weren't involved in the sharing of information, that they didn't know that it was illegal information and thought it was the trackers, and that the thread was largely ignored by her.  They've emphasized that they've left because that's a big thing with you guys, but they've scattered their reasoning for this since the info was announced.


I agree with you there.

The biggest thing for me is that I thought Hecubus had this information for a long time, either that or that we all knew that Paypal information was being shared, we just didn't have screenshots?  This information is a year old.

My head is exploding here.  Recapping:

Okay, coconut posts about sharing paypal information.
We get pissed because Aikea and Geldyh didn't tell us.
Aikea says she paid little mind to it when there.
Coconut posts a screencap of one of her responses to the sharing.
We get pissed because we feel we've been lied to.

You're right about the mealy mouthing part, but we've ripped them a new one many times here.  Even with the clean slate we gave each other (A&G and the pirates), there's a lot of bad blood here.  They've apologized, but I'm not so sure what we're after here.  Are we mad because they didn't screencap every post of questionable legality?  And what about Coconut?  S/he still has access to this stuff, s/he's screencapping it, but I've no idea what she's doing for us.  This information in its entirety has been rehashed and released to Hecubus before.

I'm divided here.

On one hand, I don't think that many people would have done as you Calalily.  If they were you, they wouldn't have joined TSR in the first place.  Could you honestly say that before the days of anti-paysite, you wouldn't have?  You might (probably will) not have joined, but certainly not everybody.  Hell, even me, if I could make a shirt, may have joined.

On the other hand, I was sickened to read Aikea's response in that thread.  

On my third hand (yes, I have a third hand  ), I doubt I could remember everything that I've posted.  I may have posted something about sharing Aikea's sims, or saying that they're ugly, or how Aikea's stuff is not all that great, but I'd be hard pressed to remember it, and you to find it.  Yes, it probably wasn't anything illegal, but Aikea knowing that is still up for debate.  We can't know for sure that she knew the illegality of it.

So, my verdict?

Judging by how long she showed up, I'd say that Aikea may not have known, 100-something posts in, what they thread is about, and that she really believed that it was legal methods of finding filesharers.  I'd also give her a wider berth than Atwat, Dot, Tug, and all the people who were there from the beginning, cheering Thomas on every other post, and suggesting other ways that definitely were illegal.  I'd rather not alienate her any more than we have and give her a mostly clean slate.  I think she's done far less than we want to pin her for.  Just because she's the only FA we can talk to does not make her responsible for the ones we can't talk to.  Until I see something painting her as bad as Atwat or Tug (or any of them), I'd still think we should be as nice to Aikea and Geldyh as we have been.

I want to know more about Simtomatic.  Why is s/he called 'spy?'

Thank you!  I started from 100 because you had the first 80 because I wanted to get the rest in case something bad happened midway.  But I would have procrastinated if I didn't know you knew. (I'm a huge procrastinator.)

I'm going to report it on sim_wank in the morning, so that I hit everyone's flists.

I backed it up too. 


All 100, but I doubled one pic:

http://www.box.net/shared/1cnsftghck

My fiance used to love that stuff.  Didn't do anything for his dandruff though.

Lol, DL!  We kept mentioning your name because video game and anime sims are right up your alley, and if anyone could do one perfectly, it's you.  It's good she didn't steal anything from you though. 

I took the survey too.  That survey is skewed.

I think it's the latter, Renegade.  Disney is truly anal about their copyright.  A tip would be a very good thing to do.

That's where we got anti-paysite.

I won't talk about Insim right now, I'm more wanting to know what you meant by this:


And why you would post that here, where we fight against paysites.

I am certainly willing to wait until she sorts things out before I go crazy on Insim (I don't think I've gone crazy yet, but *shrug).  I won't bug her about the "neutrality."  I just don't know why she posted what she did here. 

Exactly Ruloi.

MTS2 doesn't have aspiration gifts, but you get a little heart under your name when you donate, and faster downloads.  Some people don't like that, but there's nothing illegal about it.

   That's great!  Glad to be of help.