LOL...sounds like a cover charge to get into her site!

Someone slap my forehead for me, my hands are stinging.  Pony up now, everbuddy!  Or else!   :roll:

I feel that way too, Renegade, tho I have a feeling their ass is covered by the 'global EA TOU' thing floating around here somewhere (I hate walls of legalese).  I caught in there somewhere that by agreeing to the TOU (which I supposed we do somewhere?  when we register our games?  I dunno) absolves EA of any liability to do with third party sites out of EA's control.  I am paraphrasing and possibly misunderstanding, mind you.

However - they're okay with sites making content for their product, it's a selling point of the thing, so I do feel that by not enforcing their own EULA they have fostered an environment where their customer base gets fleeced, and whether they're technically responsible somehow or not, that is something they should wrap their lil heads around.  Now.  As it could very well affect at least my purchasing decisions in the future.

What's the difference between uploading to the Exchange and stuff in the Booty?  Third partyism?

The whole thing sounds suspect.  A mysterious fragment of conversation floated out to either appease some TSR/FA flailing or to stir shit.  And the Bonham guy used to work for Maxis, didn't he?  Had a simpage and all (please someone correct me on this).  So they put him out there 'conference calling' to EA...bleh.  Has a stinkiness about it.

Have to echo Requip.  Why TSR stuff and not Peggy's?  Why TSR stuff and not stuff from free sites?

Let WTF reverberate throughout the canyons of...ah, shit, lost my poetic, um...crap.

According to someone I know from Ukraine, in Ukranian, mikey means 'underpants'.

The reactions of the Teutonic Twats are heave-inducing; I'm surprised other paysites don't come down on them for their open displays of outright greed...it's making them all look so bad!   :roll:

That was my post, Peachfish, and you answered it yourself:  "Yes, that’s what I’m saying. There is no way to control what happens to your stuff on the internet."

The point of my post wasn't that creator control wasn't important, but that it is, in the end and unfortunately, a pretty futile enterprise, for one, and that's followed up with the fact that all the stuff in the Booty IS credited to the creator and includes text links to the creator's site.  Another point I was making was that if paysite creators don't honor the game manufacturer's EULA, why would they then expect their TOUs to be honored?

What I hadn't, and perhaps should have, said was that I do respect creators very much and will personally gladly credit them and have done so extensively (and that was just for stories I put up on the exchange!) - it's never occurred to me to do otherwise.  I didn't make it and I won't take credit for it, I will give credit where it's due with my gratitude.  Lots of folks will do that as well.  But there will always be at least one who won't out of apathy, malice, or ignorance, and, in the big scheme of things, it makes me wonder why some creators waste so much energy on worrying about it when once it's up and out there it really is out of their hands.  It's just how it is.

They may not like that their stuff is in the Booty, but at least it's properly credited.  Live with it like that and continue to charge, or stop charging and they come down.  Those with stuff in the Booty already got paid for it, which violated the EULA, which negates their TOUs.  It's perhaps harsh for creative sensibilities (I have them too, you know, I can empathize), but too many paysites haven't played fair with this community and that needs to be exposed.  The Booty is an equalizer.

*edited for verb agreement and pronoun replacement.

This game cuts such a swath across ages and skillsets, there's bound to be someone or some group that cannot resist filling the CC creation niches.  T-Mog, SimPE, _______.

Honestly, I don't know what kind of medication you need to be regularly ingesting to moderate that site, but the dosage must be considerable.

I think some stick it out just to be stubborn, others say 'screw this!' and somehow look like wussies.  The mandate to be nice must be soul-crushing.

I don't get the control thing.  Perhaps I'm being simplistic, but if I download something from a paysite or I download the same thing from the Booty, what is the difference other than the money?  Everything in the Booty is credited to the creator.  Nothing is being resold.  Links to the site are included, and TOUs (I believe, not sure), which mean nothing if the EULA means nothing.  If the EULA doesn't protect EA, why would it somehow protect paysites?

If the creators of SimPE and CEP stated in their TOUs that it was forbidden for anything made with their 'tools and materials' to be sold in any way, would paysite owners have respected that?

This clinging to what amounts to, in intarwebz time, an antiquated notion of sites taking donations for bandwidth costs ( :roll: ) needs to lie down and die; that was years ago, when Maxis ran things and hosting costs weren't nearly as competitive as they are today.  Paysites are businesses anymore, plain and simple, and as such need to be held accountable for the quality of their merchandise and the treatment of their customers.  I'd love to see the tax forms that TSR owners fill out, if they even do.

As far as being listed on the official site - that list is old:  lots of links are dead and TSR was doing the free rotation thing when they were added, if memory serves.

There are too many paysites, ripping off people at will with shoddy product or bannings without 'evidence' or subscription refunds, with no supervision or authority to which they can be held accountable, and people are sick of it.  That's why people rush the Booty - there is no risk except having to delete something.

It's not about evil, it's not about rights, it's about fair play within a supposed community.

If we shred our tin foil we can make tinsel wigs and then comment on how positively Momamatwatian those textures are with safety and fashion.

Arizona is a set of furniture from HolySimoly that has been...ingested?  indigested?  undigested? by this retexturer.

Ha, when I initially read that TSR/trojan sentence, I thought they were asking if TSR puts trojans in stuff you download from...TSR.

Comprehension problems.  Or poorly worded trolling?

I've never had computer issues w/anything I downloaded from the Booty.

Rose has obviously confused the word 'donate' with 'cost'.

Requests are not taken here.  Try SFV (simsfilevault).

And read the stickied posts, which clearly state:  No Requests.

It's kind of hard to read, typographically, optically, and English isn't the author's native tongue, but I remember reading this waaay back when paysites for TS1 started popping up:

http://www.simchaotics.com/TShistory.htm

It's sort of a chronicle of the whole thing dating back to 2002.  Ra (?) was saying the same things then as we do now.  It's interesting to see the simming world rotate on its axis, lol.