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Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Hecubus on 2007 May 01, 22:06:35
Found this interesting...and I encourage everyone to go vote (http://www.parsimonious.org/)!

Note: The following includes votes so far...only 34 at the moment...but I think we could stuff the ballot boxes, as it were...make a statement.

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Currently our Community Finds features new updates from other community websites. Each find is labelled to say whether the items are free or pay. Do you feel the Finds should be restricted to just free content?
         
0.0%  -  You should feature more items from pay sites in the    Finds, I frequently purchase Sims downloads and hate to miss previews of good pay content

26.4% - I think it is right that pay items are featured so that people can decide for themselves if they wish to purchase the content shown

17.6% - You should not to feature pay items as it is a disappointment to those who cannot afford to pay for the items shown

14.7% - Pay items should only be included in the finds if the site contributes a support fee to Parsimonious for the advertising of their updates

41.1% - No pay items should be featured as it is inappropriate to charge money for Sims custom content and Parsimonious should not be encouraging the community to support this practice via the Finds


Edited to add link...sorry!


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 May 01, 22:10:09
I would but I actually can't find it! Where is it??


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Mattie on 2007 May 01, 22:30:22
Linky for those that don't know it

http://www.parsimonious.org/


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Pescado on 2007 May 01, 23:02:09
I voted in favor of the advertising fee. They should also put a link to us.

More Awesome Than You will accept paysite advertising for the low, low fee of $14.95 a month!


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: frivolous on 2007 May 02, 00:00:52
omh i thought this was going to be a poll asking if parsimonious should start charging for their CC. i was about to freak out. :|
also BSR needs a poll like this lol. i sent them an e-mail in my best interpretation of german as possible asking them to stop featuring pay crap but never got a reply hahha. :P


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Granuaile on 2007 May 02, 01:06:00
I voted, and it looks like we're winning!  :D

(I picked the third choice)

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0.0%  - You should feature more items from pay sites in the Finds, I frequently purchase Sims downloads and hate to miss previews of good pay content
14.9% - I think it is right that pay items are featured so that people can decide for themselves if they wish to purchase the content shown
8.7%  - You should not to feature pay items as it is a disappointment to those who cannot afford to pay for the items shown
8.7%  - Pay items should only be included in the finds if the site contributes a support fee to Parsimonious for the advertising of their updates
67.5% - No pay items should be featured as it is inappropriate to charge money for Sims custom content and Parsimonious should not be encouraging the community to support this practice via the Finds


ETA the results.


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Ensign EO on 2007 May 02, 01:53:59
Eh, there's really only three choices, if that.

Yes, feature paysites.
No, don't feature paysites.
I am willing to accept the existence of paysites if they pay you to prove their existence.  (And even more so if they pay me.)

I voted for the popular one because I'm a sheepy.  Baaaa.


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Rae Kira on 2007 May 02, 02:13:41
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0.0%  - You should feature more items from pay sites in the Finds, I frequently purchase Sims downloads and hate to miss previews of good pay content
14.1% - I think it is right that pay items are featured so that people can decide for themselves if they wish to purchase the content shown
7.4%  - You should not to feature pay items as it is a disappointment to those who cannot afford to pay for the items shown
8.2%  - Pay items should only be included in the finds if the site contributes a support fee to Parsimonious for the advertising of their updates
70.1% - No pay items should be featured as it is inappropriate to charge money for Sims custom content and Parsimonious should not be encouraging the community to support this practice via the Finds

Thank you for voting. - Total votes: 134


Another little update.
I went for the last.


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Gwendolyne on 2007 May 02, 07:22:44
Ok, voted.
Eh, took the last one just to give them a clear statement.

I should have taken the first one. Just with the addition "So that we don't miss anything we'll need for the booty"


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Quorneater on 2007 May 02, 07:29:23
I voted the last one too.  I hovered over the "disappointed" one, but the last one sums it up better.


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: sherrie on 2007 May 02, 07:40:44
I voted  :D  (the last one)

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0.4%  - You should feature more items from pay sites in the Finds, I frequently purchase Sims downloads and hate to miss previews of good pay content
15.0% - I think it is right that pay items are featured so that people can decide for themselves if they wish to purchase the content shown
6.1%  - You should not to feature pay items as it is a disappointment to those who cannot afford to pay for the items shown
8.0%  - Pay items should only be included in the finds if the site contributes a support fee to Parsimonious for the advertising of their updates
70.2% - No pay items should be featured as it is inappropriate to charge money for Sims custom content and Parsimonious should not be encouraging the community to support this practice via the Finds

Thank you for voting. - Total votes: 212


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: cheekylilgirl on 2007 May 02, 07:48:36
Voted with the last option as it's the one that makes the most correct statement.


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: JMZ on 2007 May 02, 08:10:40
I voted for the last one too. IMHO free sites should not have recolours of pay stuff period. (unless they include the mesh :P)


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Pescado on 2007 May 02, 08:57:39
Quote from: "JMZ"
I voted for the last one too. IMHO free sites should not have recolours of pay stuff period. (unless they include the mesh :P)

They could link to PMBD instead.


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: calalily on 2007 May 02, 09:27:26
Yeah, I voted the last one too.


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 May 02, 09:27:36
No no no I know where Parsimonious is. I can't find the bloody poll! It's NOT THERE! It's banned at school for some reason so I can't go on, but my home PC and my laptop both agree that the poll is non-existent. I've looked on the homepage, the advertisements page, the FAQ, the links...and a couple of other pages...it's NOT there!!! There's one poll on the main page but if I remember correctly it's asking if they should make more clothes or more houses. :roll:  :roll:  :roll:
I'm confused.

Quote from: "Ensign EO"
I am willing to accept the existence of paysites if they pay you to prove their existence. (And even more so if they pay me.)


Now that's a good one. ^^ I think I may have to vote for that...if I can't find the blooming poll...


((Can someone give me directions to the poll as I'm obviously Not Awesome and cannot find it myself?))


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: dorquemada on 2007 May 02, 09:35:43
Eh, it's right there, on the front page? To the right from the colourful April updates thingy? If you see the old poll there, try CTRL+reload the page, might help.


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 May 02, 09:51:53
Okay, I'll try that when I get home. ^^ Thanks. :D


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: redisenchanted on 2007 May 02, 12:54:16
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0.3%  - You should feature more items from pay sites in the Finds, I frequently purchase Sims downloads and hate to miss previews of good pay content
14.0% - I think it is right that pay items are featured so that people can decide for themselves if they wish to purchase the content shown
5.3%  - You should not to feature pay items as it is a disappointment to those who cannot afford to pay for the items shown
9.1%  - Pay items should only be included in the finds if the site contributes a support fee to Parsimonious for the advertising of their updates
71.1% - No pay items should be featured as it is inappropriate to charge money for Sims custom content and Parsimonious should not be encouraging the community to support this practice via the Finds

Thank you for voting. - Total votes: 263


That was the breakdown when I voted. I went for the last one too.


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Doursim on 2007 May 02, 13:36:06
One of the spies must have voted for the pay sites should be included option :)


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Quorneater on 2007 May 02, 13:56:18
When I looked just now the last option had sadly reduced to 69.something


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: SparklePlenty on 2007 May 02, 15:16:06
I voted for the last option, but I have to ask myself, "Do I believe that they will change their policy just because it is what the people who responded to the poll want?" Call me cynical, but I doubt it.


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Quorneater on 2007 May 02, 15:55:20
If they weren't planning to take any notice of the poll why would they bother running it?  Or why not keep the results secret?  I think you're being a little too cynical :)


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Ash Redfern on 2007 May 02, 18:50:07
I just voted and the stats were at .8% who wanted Parsimonious to add even more updates with paysite finds and 70% who didn't want any paysite finds at all. Only 13.7% thought that paysite finds should be featured and that people should decide for themselves if they wanted to purchase said items. This was the total after 340 votes.

I can't help but marvel at those .8% of individuals who "frequently purchase Sims downloads and hate to miss previews of good pay content". Good pay content? Yea, not so much.

Perhaps the .8 are paysite owners themselves or simply individuals who have more money than proper cognitive skills.


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: ChloroformDreams on 2007 May 02, 19:52:25
I voted for the last option because I don't think they'll actually change anything unless a clear majority of the voters agree they want things to change.


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 May 02, 22:19:46
Quote from: "dorquemada"
Eh, it's right there, on the front page? To the right from the colourful April updates thingy? If you see the old poll there, try CTRL+reload the page, might help.


Refreshed 4 times. Still got the old poll. I even Ctrl-refreshed, for all the good it did me...


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: cogitoergosim on 2007 May 02, 22:29:25
Quote from: "Pirates Like Sapphires"
Quote from: "dorquemada"
Eh, it's right there, on the front page? To the right from the colourful April updates thingy? If you see the old poll there, try CTRL+reload the page, might help.


Refreshed 4 times. Still got the old poll. I even Ctrl-refreshed, for all the good it did me...


Try another browser. Firefox and Opera are pretty good choices. Internet Explorer is crap.


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: callmeird on 2007 May 02, 22:43:18
I'm liking these results! I chose the last option.


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Nina on 2007 May 03, 15:52:51
You know what I voted for. lol. You think they'd do it...?


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Doursim on 2007 May 03, 16:57:48
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1.2%  - You should feature more items from pay sites in the Finds, I frequently purchase Sims downloads and hate to miss previews of good pay content
14.1% - I think it is right that pay items are featured so that people can decide for themselves if they wish to purchase the content shown
8.5%  - You should not to feature pay items as it is a disappointment to those who cannot afford to pay for the items shown
7.3%  - Pay items should only be included in the finds if the site contributes a support fee to Parsimonious for the advertising of their updates
68.7% - No pay items should be featured as it is inappropriate to charge money for Sims custom content and Parsimonious should not be encouraging the community to support this practice via the Finds

Thank you for voting. - Total votes: 493


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Marhis on 2007 May 03, 19:40:59
I voted for the last option, too.

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1.3%  - You should feature more items from pay sites in the Finds, I frequently purchase Sims downloads and hate to miss previews of good pay content
14.0% - I think it is right that pay items are featured so that people can decide for themselves if they wish to purchase the content shown
8.7%  - You should not to feature pay items as it is a disappointment to those who cannot afford to pay for the items shown
7.3%  - Pay items should only be included in the finds if the site contributes a support fee to Parsimonious for the advertising of their updates
68.4% - No pay items should be featured as it is inappropriate to charge money for Sims custom content and Parsimonious should not be encouraging the community to support this practice via the Finds

Thank you for voting. - Total votes: 514


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Quorneater on 2007 June 14, 19:05:36
The eventual outcome is that they are still posting pay content in their finds.  So I don't know what the final score was.


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: calalily on 2007 June 14, 19:59:41
They didn't implement it because they found that people were cheating, and voting more than once and skewing the results, as well as Kate wanted a bit more of a landslide in the vote.  They have prioritised free finds though, and will put them up first, and if the pay ones get left out, then they get left out.


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Quorneater on 2007 June 14, 20:05:09
There's always some idiot spoiling things for other people.  That's one of the advantages of a forum poll, it's such a hassle to cheat that most people don't bother.


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: HideTheRum on 2007 June 14, 20:53:12
Quote from: "Captain Cairistiona"
Quote from: "dorquemada"
Eh, it's right there, on the front page? To the right from the colourful April updates thingy? If you see the old poll there, try CTRL+reload the page, might help.


Refreshed 4 times. Still got the old poll. I even Ctrl-refreshed, for all the good it did me...


Wee! so that's two of us :lol:

Firefox isn't helping me either. The mystery goes on...


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: keirra on 2007 June 15, 03:44:47
The newsletter has this info:
We have an additional change to our Finds section pending, after much
deliberation we have decided that we are only going to be featuring free
updates in our Finds section. This change will come into effect from
this Sunday - we are not excluding sites with pay content from our finds,
merely individual updates that require payment.

So, cool.  The majority vote wins!  :D


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Quorneater on 2007 June 15, 07:48:19
Of course it would be even better if part-pay sites were excluded altogether, but I can't expect everyone to be that extreme.


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: MoonDragon on 2007 June 16, 20:49:26
Today's poll is about the quality of pay content vs. free content.


Title: Pay Items Poll at Parsimonious
Post by: Jojoba on 2007 June 17, 08:12:10
Quote from: "MoonDragon"
Today's poll is about the quality of pay content vs. free content.


Interesting poll!

So far -

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Do you feel that pay downloads created by the Sims community are higher quality than the free ones?

1.8%  - Free downloads are usually dreadful, pay files are almost always much better quality
8.0%  - Pay files are generally better but there are some good quality free downloads
16.8% - There are more quality items which are pay than free ones, but they are not worth paying for
40.4% - There are just as many good quality free items as there are quality pay items
22.3% - There are more quality free downloads than there are good pay items
10.4% - Pay downloads are mostly awful, free items are nearly always better quality

Thank you for voting. - Total votes: 546