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Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Granuaile on 2007 May 03, 02:42:41
Fairywitch has a fairly new TS2 site, but it's run in a slightly different way than the norm.  She has two different kinds of donation buttons - one is for people to donate anything they want without receiving a gift and the other donation button is to donate $3 Euros for a retro set she's offering as a donation gift.

I wasn't sure if you knew about the site, so I figure I'd give a heads up just in case.  The link below is to the donation page for the retro set, and both types of buttons are available.

http://www.fairywitchsims.com/content/blogsection/21/113/


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: LadyDea on 2007 May 03, 03:07:40
That seems like an... odd way to go about things. Why not just have one donation button thing? Send them the gift whether they wanted it or not, it is not like they have to put it in their game.

Overly complicated, bah. *stomps on it*

Edit: Damn typos!


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Shawnee on 2007 May 03, 03:28:04
She pays 6.95 a month for her hosting and needs donations. If she gets 3 donations that will pay one month and she will have a little left over. When you pay that little bit of money for hosting it just does not make sense.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: ChloroformDreams on 2007 May 03, 03:42:15
Argh, the brightness scares me, make it go away.

I believe the owner also has an account on TSR.  I had one of her chairs in my game but the polycount was ridiculously high so I deleted it.

And the two Paypal buttons are beyond my comprehension.  Maybe it's the next big paysite trend, "Donate now!  Receive nothing in return except the promise that our site will always provide you with quality downloads you won't have access to unless you give us more money!"


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Quorneater on 2007 May 03, 07:25:04
There is a useful reason for two buttons and in fact I have been asking some paysites to do that as an experiment.  I am trying to demonstrate to them that they could end up getting as much income from voluntary donations as they do by selling a file for the money.  This is in the hopes they will drop the pay stuff altogether.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Pescado on 2007 May 03, 07:50:18
The logic of this seems to be a failure. Why would someone donate money to a paysite?


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: ScreamMyName on 2007 May 03, 13:48:34
don't EVER donate to sites which still use maxis skintones or create stuff based on maxis levels (which is SO LOW)  :lol:


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Modo on 2007 May 03, 14:28:42
Everyone over at sim bellas seemed really hyped up about her site returning.

Granted, she made some amazing stuff for the sims1 at TSR, but from what I have seen so far her tallent for the sims1 is not working for the sims2.

But her fan base/reputation seems to strong so it doesn't look like a fail.

...yet


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Nina on 2007 May 03, 15:47:35
Took me 15 min to figure out how to navigate there.  :P


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: GeneGenie on 2007 May 03, 16:28:07
Well at least the layout does suck and destroy you eyes, which is a good thing!

Besides, her free downloads don't look half bad, unlike some out there.[/quote]


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Doursim on 2007 May 03, 16:55:59
is it just me or does that site look like something straight out of 1996?


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: liegenschonheit on 2007 May 03, 18:44:15
That would make sense, since her last site was for TS1. Bringing back the TS1 experience, hell yes!

Hosted by Lunarpages, eh? Lets all jump on there, browse around, and eat up the bandwidth so she can see what the real Lunarpages customer experience is like.

/evil mode


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Doursim on 2007 May 03, 18:54:48
I was just wondering since she states right on the front page that she has a love of web design... white background with black text with zero images is hardly ... design.  More like a resume.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Hecubus on 2007 May 03, 19:13:15
I keep getting 'forbidden' messages...I guess my computer knows better than to let me see it?


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: jicour on 2007 May 03, 19:29:24
Quote from: "Hecubus"
I keep getting 'forbidden' messages...I guess my computer knows better than to let me see it?


That's the same shit that I was getting, the forbidden message. I typed www.fairywitchsims.com and got in. The site is no big deal.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Steroide on 2007 May 03, 19:42:42
Still doesn't work...  :x


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Quorneater on 2007 May 03, 20:05:47
Nooooooooooooo!  I am having enough trouble with my server up and down as it is.  Spare a thought for us "innocent" Lunarpages customers  :o


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: ChloroformDreams on 2007 May 03, 21:13:15
Quote from: "fairywitch"
2. How many of you (thanks for the publicity btw), would sign up with your real username instead of some bogus nick? I don't use any other name than this one and I haven't in 6 years that I've been playing and creating. I don't hide behind different usernames. Why do you? I ain't talking about Pescado, I'm talking about all the rest. At least he uses his name everywhere. Those that DID sign up for an account and downloaded stuff, why did you? If my site is *insert wobbly knees and voice here* so goddamn evil, wtf are you doing on it and why on earth would you want my stuff in your game?

I have no problem using the username I have here all over the web, and in fact, many users on here use the same name throughout the Sims community.  Also, I don't care whether or not your site is teh evil 666 (did anyone even call it evil? :roll:), I don't want your stuff in my game anyways.

Quote from: "fairywitch"
6. I hardly check mesh sizes because I make stuff for my game, only have about 600 megs of other people's creations total in my downloads folder and I like what I make. That's who I primarily make stuff for. ME! Not you. If you don't like my creations, don't like how I run my site, go away?

Well if you plan on selling your meshes I suggest you start checking.  Not many people want a 9000 poly dining chair in their game.  And as for staying away from your site, I have no problem with that.  As I said before, the brightness hurts my eyes.  Maybe I should wear my sunglasses.

I think you have an inflated ego.  We're not going gaga over your site, in fact I would go so far as to call you small peanuts in comparison with other paysites.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Silvercoin on 2007 May 03, 21:56:11
1. I didn't use a proxy, so, um... no. What is there to be afraid of?

2. I'm not sure you should be thanking us for the newfound publicity. It's more of a collection of infamy than fame, but I'll disregard that little point of yours because I can tell you only added that as a defensive measure. And mind you I didn't sign up at all, but people DO use different usernames. Why? Um. Because people do? What's your problem there? Besides, what with the whole "I CAN'T BAN YOU" thing, we'd be idiots for using our identifiable names, wouldn't we? And as for what we're doing on your site... *cough* READ THE THREAD. We're mocking you. And it's a damn good question why anyone would want your stuff in their game, but I can only assume they do it so they can model it on their Carla Niven Sim. Just for kicks, y'know.

3. Just a thought: have fun suing us over that one, lawl. And... your point is? So you don't get out much. This somehow dampens our right to mock? Alrighty then. Your "gang" comment is amusing but that's been discussed to the death on other threads so if you're curious, have a look see. And no wonder we wouldn't be here if Pescado wasn't; he runs the site! lolololololol

4. Can I hear a whoop-whoop? No? Damn.

5. 'Kay...

6. You attempted a bit of witty sarcasm here, but sorry to say it kinda flopped considering that isn't really important. Okay, make your stuff for you. Fascinating? And no, not very hard to "go away" but I fail to see why we should. The CARLA NIVEN thread is the longest on this board. Shouldn't that clue you? People are attracted to the revolting for it provides much amusement. You entertain us. What sort of reason is that to "go away"?

7. 'Kay...


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: ChloroformDreams on 2007 May 03, 22:18:07
I don't think Lieg was actually serious about trying to jack up your bandwidth.

And actually, the files are not yours.  As soon as they are converted into .package format they belong to EA/Maxis.

Quote from: "fairywitch"
This site is in no way about just moaning about payfiles, from what I have read tonight, it's a free for all bashfest.

Yes, that's a very good summation of the phorum.  It takes some people a while to grasp that.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Ensign EO on 2007 May 03, 22:29:06
"This site is in no way about just moaning about payfiles, from what I have read tonight, it's a free for all bashfest."

Moaning is not acceptable unless in the orgy.  Violent bashing, however, is.

I see no problem with this set-up.

If you don't care to fix your meshes so they are of a sane size if they get too large, then don't share at all if you're going to cop that attitude.  No one ever held a gun up to your head and forced you to make "your" custom content available to the public--if you don't make it available, you won't have to have a paysite and you won't have that particular financial burden upon you--but clearly it's just all about you and your need for money.  You obviously don't care about the customers--pardon, downloaders--if you can't be bothered to check mesh sizes, or even say that you are creating for the sake of giving to the community, even in the slightest.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Bigtruckgirl on 2007 May 03, 22:34:23
1. I have no idea how to set up a proxy. (I mean come on y'all know I had a problem with Virtual Memory and Saffy had to help me. LOL) so, no, no proxy here. Although the thought of it sounds interesting. Someone tell me how to set up a proxy. :lol:

2.It is great you use the same name everywhere, but not everyone is like you. I have 3 names depending on whether or not I know the intent of the person asking for my information. Because I did not know your intent (selling to spammers or whatever) you got my "I don't care if they spam name." Also, I am guilty of downloading. I was having a hard time navigating and I clicked on the "food processor" to see if it would take me to your downloads page and it didn't. Then I saw well BELOW the list that the links were direct download links. There is your reason for downloading you asked for. :D

Don't sweat it though, it ain't in my download folder any more and won't be in my game. I mean ya know how many food processor recolors do you really need?

3. Actually out of curiosity, I'd like to see that law if it is a SERIOUS crime. Does it pertain to countries outside the reach of the EU and USA?

4&5. Whether you charge 1 cent or 6.95, and irrelevant to you offering free stuff, the moment you put a PayPal button on it to get an item you not only are breaking the User Agreement of Maxis/EA, thus committing a SERIOUS REAL LIFE CRIME, but you have put yourself in the hall of shame with the rest of the paysite owners. (how was that for a run on. LOL)

6&7. I just really don't give a rats ass. :lol: Although it is an interesting concept to create stuff for you and only you and then go on to sell it to other people.  




PS. Hey y'all how did I do going up again my first paysite owner? I know it is small change, but you have to start somewhere. Have I been a good young Padawan learner? <ROTFLMFAO>


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Ensign EO on 2007 May 03, 22:39:42
Quote from: "Bigtruckgirl"
PS. Hey y'all how did I do going up again my first paysite owner? I know it is small change, but you have to start somewhere. Have I been a good young Padawan learner? <ROTFLMFAO>


Poorly.  Go write the pirate commandments ten times over or I'll have ye walk the plank.  :wink:

I don't know why the owners of small paysites always come running here when they get mentioned, or write some angsty, bitter blog about PMBD on Myspace...  The drama usually doesn't last long enough anyway.  I wish Peggy or Rose would drop by some time.  That'd be lovely.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Bigtruckgirl on 2007 May 03, 22:41:28
Quote from: "Ensign EO"
Quote from: "Bigtruckgirl"
PS. Hey y'all how did I do going up again my first paysite owner? I know it is small change, but you have to start somewhere. Have I been a good young Padawan learner? <ROTFLMFAO>


Poorly.  Go write the pirate commandments ten times over or I'll have ye walk the plank.  :wink:



DAMN!  :cry:

<goes to write the commandments 10 times>

Can I at least bring the rum with me?


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Silvercoin on 2007 May 03, 22:52:48
Quote from: "Ensign EO"
I wish Peggy or Rose would drop by some time. That'd be lovely.

I second that. It'd be awesome. The most delicious bitchfest evar. <3
It is a trend, isn't it? We never get the big fish, only the small fry. I guess the more popular paysite owners either 1) don't give a damn or 2) don't want to properly acknowledge PMBD's existance. :?


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Ensign EO on 2007 May 03, 23:13:38
Quote from: "Bigtruckgirl"
Can I at least bring the rum with me?


I don't see how you can write them otherwise.

I guess Peggy, Rose, and all the other big paysites are making enough money and have enough loyal subscribers that they don't really need to concern themselves with the issues.  Rose did stir up some drama a while ago, but pfft, I want to see them register on the forum and actually fight with the phorum denizens instead of slinging dirt from a distance.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: ChloroformDreams on 2007 May 03, 23:56:36
Apparently Rose is bothered enough to have come up with some lame-ass procedure about waiting ten days before you can donate for her newest hair, unless you've already donated before.  Her reason for doing this is in order to "safeguard her donators' advantage".  At least that's what I think she's on about, we all know how great her English is.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Silvercoin on 2007 May 04, 02:37:33
Quote
Rose did stir up some drama a while ago

Crap! I must have missed that one. I can't remember reading anything about Rose.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Ensign EO on 2007 May 04, 03:50:54
Quote from: "ChloroformDreams"
"safeguard her donators' advantage"

Yes, that was part of her stirring, along with the sharing of people's information.

Still doesn't really equate to her coming here and actually trying to stand up for herself instead of doing the stupid things like she does.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: MizzKitty on 2007 May 04, 11:53:30
I once donated to her. I... was ignorant, ok?

Wish she would bin her hair... But bah, never mind, I have been finding better free stuff lately anyhoo.

Now I just wish XMsims wouldn't place pink hair under red...

Ok, enough of my hair ranting, sorry. :P

Uh, let's see... what was the topic? Oh yea... Paysite Bad!  :lol:


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: missangelica on 2007 May 04, 12:39:42
Hmm, 95% free, eh?  Does that mean she could only be 5% hated or feel 5% guilty?  :lol:


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Quorneater on 2007 May 04, 12:56:30
Well you know, I don't disrespect paysite owners, but saying you're not a paysite cos you happen to have free things too is like saying you're a vegetarian cos you only eat meat at Thanksgiving and Xmas.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Hecubus on 2007 May 04, 13:34:02
ARGH...I almost hate the 'I only have a little pay content to cover bandwidth' people more than the flat out money making sites like TSR and Peggy. At least with them, you know their motives. Little shit sites like this seems 100 times more smarmy.

Running a free site is SO easy...there are so many ways...finding a friend with a server, using services like freewebs to host the page and mediafire to host the files...or simply absorbing the costs because it's your hobby and everyone spends a little cash on their hobby. (See: mega-craft stores)

But that's not even the worst of it: it's the whining! My content...my stuff..wah....so hard to pay...just a little pay content...wah...why pick on me.....wah...and you don't even like my stuff so why bother....wah....I'm just a LITTLE paysite....you're evil for picking on me...and I'll speak for everyone because you haven't heard these arguments before...wah....

Wah fucking wah.

ETA: Oh, and I STILL can't access this particular site...no matter how much or little of the URL I use. Pretty crappy, IMO.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Bigtruckgirl on 2007 May 04, 13:58:29
Quote from: "Hecubus"

ETA: Oh, and I STILL can't access this particular site...no matter how much or little of the URL I use. Pretty crappy, IMO.


I had to go in from IE. For some reason it would not display properly in Firefox(hence me not being able to navigate properly and D/L the food processor).


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: MizzKitty on 2007 May 04, 14:11:31
I use IE7 on this machine and I got a 403 Forbidden 2-3 times before finally loading it.

Craptastic.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Bigtruckgirl on 2007 May 04, 14:36:45
Quote from: "MizzKitty"
I use IE7 on this machine and I got a 403 Forbidden 2-3 times before finally loading it.

Craptastic.


HA-HA so much for her quote....

From here

http://www.fairywitchsims.com/content/blogsection/2/9/

 
Quote from: "From the "I only have a little pay stuff" small change Paysite Owner's web site"
Friday, 30 March 2007

 Most internet users, those who don't have anything to do with web-design or coding of internet pages, are not aware of the massive amount of work that goes into designing a web-page that is 1.) accessable in most browsers and 2.) conforms to World-Wide-Web standards. By practising clean web-design and accessability, web-designers make sure that almost all types of media can read a webpage and output it's content in a fashion that all types of users are able to read it, including disabled people. Most users aren't aware that one is even able to design a site that enables disabled users have the web-site be read to them. This is only one of the many reasons to update to a modern browser.


I guess she has not aware either, because it isn't working in "most" browsers. :lol:

BTW see if you all can find the misspelled words in the above quote.  :lol:  :wink:   :lol:


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Hecubus on 2007 May 04, 14:41:13
I am using IE 7...even tried it WITH a proxy (not to hide, just to load).

She's not doing a good job with her site creation if people can't get in, no matter WHAT she says (and how badly she says it).


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: rickets on 2007 May 04, 15:15:02
If the fairywitch person comes back she needs to make sure her error documents are in an unblocked directory and check her .htaccess file.

Not that I want to necessarily aid a paysite owner but she did come visit us.  In real life I would have offered her pie.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Doursim on 2007 May 04, 15:30:03
She can boast about being user friendly all she wants.  Her site is still ugly, and I wouldn't even bother looking at the downloads of a site that looked like that.  (my thought being.. ok.. they can't even design a simple background and banner, how good can their recolors be?)

** edit:  Just got the images to work.  It does look very joomla-y.  I dont' use joomla, but my understanding is that it is kind of like "website for dummies"

My page isn't IE6 friendly.  I toyed with the idea of ditching the cool code that I found that it doesn't work with, but decided that forcing people to upgrade out of the stone age/having a more useful layout was more important.    If people can't see my content without having a seizure then they need to (as advised) upgrade to FF or IE7.  If you can't then you need a new computer, if you can't afford a new computer then you'll just have to risk the seizure.  *shrug*


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Hecubus on 2007 May 04, 16:02:46
Quote from: "rickets"
In real life I would have offered her pie.


Mmmmmm... Pie! The great equalizer. Everybody likes pie!


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Bigtruckgirl on 2007 May 04, 16:18:23
Quote from: "Hecubus"
I am using IE 7


Ditto.

Quote from: "Hecubus"
She's not doing a good job with her site creation if people can't get in, no matter WHAT she says (and how badly she says it).


Yes, I agree. :D


Quote from: "Hecubus"
Quote from: "rickets"
In real life I would have offered her pie.


Mmmmmm... Pie! The great equalizer. Everybody likes pie!


I could go for a piece of chocolate pie right now. Not the cool whip/Jello kind either. The ones like my Mom and MIL makes.... MMMMMMMMMM


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 May 04, 17:39:39
It's "its" not "it's" mate...
But practising was right, Becky...just not in that context. ^^ She misused it. ^^


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Doursim on 2007 May 04, 17:53:12
to take advantage of someone <he practised on their credulity with huge success>

I had to look it up.  My FF spellcheck still thinks it's a misspelling.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Pescado on 2007 May 04, 18:06:56
Quote from: "Bigtruckgirl"
Most internet users, those who don't have anything to do with web-design or coding of internet pages, are not aware of the massive amount of work that goes into designing a web-page that is 1.) accessable in most browsers and 2.) conforms to World-Wide-Web standards.

Bolognium. Pure and utter weapons-grade bolognium. I mean, look at the great PMBD pages. Those work not only in MOST browsers, but in *ANY* browser, no matter how ancient, antiquated, or text-based, and you know how much work went into making those? Zero!


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: rickets on 2007 May 04, 18:25:53
I finally got the sky and rainbow website to load.  

And the great internet coder who blogged about her skills is using Joomla to create her site!  Joomla which generates HTML code that rivals Moby Dick in length and complexity.  And makes a heck of a lot of server calls.

If I knew she was using Joomla I would have never mentioned pie.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: nordicicequeen on 2007 May 04, 20:06:44
Quote from: "Doursim"

I had to look it up.  My FF spellcheck still thinks it's a misspelling.

I <3 FF spellcheck, lol. I couldn't live without it. I'm like, a Nazi for spelling things correctly, with very fumbling awkward fingers.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Hecubus on 2007 May 04, 20:16:51
Quote from: "rickets"
If I knew she was using Joomla I would have never mentioned pie.


Can WE still have pie?  Please?


Regarding the whole site building business: she's CLEARLY been sold a bill of goods by someone who once learned how to create a web page back in the mid 90s and never learned another thing. Funny.

And still can't access. That's funny too, in a 'yeah, right' sort of way.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: ChloroformDreams on 2007 May 04, 20:29:26
You can't access the website if you follow a link from this phorum.  You have to either type in the address or Google "fairywitch sims 2" and click on that link.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: rickets on 2007 May 04, 20:29:37
But of course.

Pirate pie for everyone.

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/autumnvesper/6611.jpg)


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Marhis on 2007 May 04, 23:26:17
Quote from: "Doursim"
** edit:  Just got the images to work.  It does look very joomla-y.


Yup, good guess, it's Joomla  :)

Code:
<meta name="Generator" content="Joomla! - Copyright (C) 2005 - 2006 Open Source Matters. All rights reserved." />


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: missangelica on 2007 May 04, 23:30:34
This Joomla news just makes the blog rant even funnier.  8)

ETA:  Really though, it's quite ridiculous for her to have a pay collection when she is hosted on friggin' lunarpages.  We also know how well sites have been off just by donations alone with no shiny things attached it.  There's no reason for it other than greed.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: chlyn on 2007 May 05, 13:13:04
Quote from: "Modo"
Everyone over at sim bellas seemed really hyped up about her site returning.


When are they not creaming in their panties about SOMETHING? "OMG - the sky is blue!!11!!" "My shoelaces are tied!!!@12!!!"  :roll:

Topic? Paysites suck. Asking for money when your monthly cost is no more than a six-pack of beer sucks dirty donkey balls.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Bigtruckgirl on 2007 May 05, 13:18:49
Quote from: "Doursim"
to take advantage of someone <he practised on their credulity with huge success>

I had to look it up.  My FF spellcheck still thinks it's a misspelling.


Mine does too. It says the correct spelling should be...

practicing with a "C" and not an "S." I do know that for me, my English teacher would have killed me if I used an "S," because there is no "S" in practice. LOL  

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/practice


I stand firmly behind my FF spell check it has never let me down before. :lol:


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Doursim on 2007 May 05, 14:54:07
I thought about adding it to the dictionary, since it's a different meaning, but then decided against it.  Since I have never used that word before in my life, (practise, I use practice plenty of times) I doubt I will be trying to type it anytime soon.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: sherrie on 2007 May 05, 15:00:21
Quote from: "missangelica"
This Joomla news just makes the blog rant even funnier.  8)

ETA:  Really though, it's quite ridiculous for her to have a pay collection when she is hosted on friggin' lunarpages.  We also know how well sites have been off just by donations alone with no shiny things attached it.  There's no reason for it other than greed.


people like that would still charge even if they were hosted by geocities.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 May 05, 15:12:23
Becky (/Dour): Er, yes, there is an s in practise, because it's different to practice (over here in Great Britain, that is).
You practise playing the piano but you go to piano practice.
My Mum teaches people this every day, so I should know.
And where I am in the world, Great Britain (not to be confused with the UK as Jersey is not part of the UK :P), there is only one c in practising. There is no practicing for us over here; that's why I said it wasn't wrong.
Therefore if that girl isn't American that's right, and even if she is it's right for Brits.

((And out of curiosity, why did you bold accessable and accessability? Because the website isn't?))


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Pescado on 2007 May 05, 15:31:37
Quote from: "Bigtruckgirl"
practicing with a "C" and not an "S." I do know that for me, my English teacher would have killed me if I used an "S," because there is no "S" in practice. LOL

That's an American/English thing.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 May 05, 15:33:43
Quote from: "Pescado"
Quote from: "Bigtruckgirl"
practicing with a "C" and not an "S." I do know that for me, my English teacher would have killed me if I used an "S," because there is no "S" in practice. LOL

That's an American/English thing.


Haha, yes sir, that's about right. ^^
Plus practise is the verb and practice is the noun, as my dear English-teacher friend (and my English-teacher mother also) have just told me. ^^


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: OneEyedWillie on 2007 May 05, 15:38:15
gaaah you gotta realise (realize!!!) that there are more than one way to spell things usually in English esp when it comes to Ses, Zs, and Cs and with the whole "our" (or) thing..... and we won't go into the grammar differences.  I mean I teach British English for a living but I learnt (learned!!) American English, so needless to say my English is fucked up.  I pity my students.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: RedLove on 2007 May 05, 15:43:20
Actually its not like that all over america. Not meaning to offend anybody but it *seems* to *me* that everybody talks decent except us southerners. Instead of ours when we say it it sounds like "ares" and instead of about to we say "fixin' to" or "fissen to" Oneeyewillie if anybody's language was truly fucked up its the southern US. But what really sucks is NO MATTER how much you try not to talk "southern" it doesn't work. Like I try my BESTEST :D Not to say Y'all but it's the first word that comes out of my mouth when I talk to someone. And don't even talk about names. Can't even say Eleanore down here it sounds like "Eliner"


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Bigtruckgirl on 2007 May 05, 16:01:12
Quote from: "Pescado"
Quote from: "Bigtruckgirl"
practicing with a "C" and not an "S." I do know that for me, my English teacher would have killed me if I used an "S," because there is no "S" in practice. LOL

That's an American/English thing.


Evidently then FF spell checker is American English based. :D

On a side note I do agree that we here in the US tend to do thing very differently that Queen's English. Funny story....

We were on the way back from Germany and unfortunately missed our connection at Gatwick and got to spend a lovely evening in Sury. We were having a nice chat with a very nice German lady in the hotel shuttle and got on the discussion of English. Her English was wonderful and she had spent years in both the UK and the US during her studies. She very nicely told me to be prepared for "proper" Queen's English when we arrived at the hotel. I told her not to worry, I was sure I could understand English just fine, she said jokingly "OK, I warned you."  :D

We get to the hotel and the lady behind the desk rattled off something that left me looking at her is complete confusion. I have no idea what she said, and it was English, just not something I understood. The German lady busted out laughing and said "I told you so." The German lady had to translate "proper Queen's English" for me! :shock: She then told me that even though the US form of English is a little screwy, it is much easier to learn and pick up. As if that made things better for me.

It was a unique experience. I did not have this much of a "language barrier" in Germany, Lithuania or anyplace else I have been to and supposedly our English derived from theirs.  :lol:


Quote from: "RedLove"
Actually its not like that all over america. Not meaning to offend anybody but it *seems* to *me* that everybody talks decent except us southerners. Instead of ours when we say it it sounds like "ares" and instead of about to we say "fixin' to" or "fissen to" Oneeyewillie if anybody's language was truly fucked up its the southern US. But what really sucks is NO MATTER how much you try not to talk "southern" it doesn't work. Like I try my BESTEST :D Not to say Y'all but it's the first word that comes out of my mouth when I talk to someone. And don't even talk about names. Can't even say Eleanore down here it sounds like "Eliner"



I'm glad you were not trying to offend and I see you count yourself as a southerner.  :lol:

PS. I've lived in NC all of my life and other than the slower pronunciation of certain words and the occasional use of y'all, I don't speak like that. This would have been another thing my English teacher (who was English meaning British BTW) would have killed me for.  :D


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Bigtruckgirl on 2007 May 05, 16:04:51
Sorry double thought I pasted it all into one. LOL


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Hecubus on 2007 May 05, 16:06:59
While I grew up in and currently live again in Upstate New York, I spent 15 years in North Carolina...and I can tell you, I will never stop saying "y'all"..it's the long-needed second person plural! (Although my family laughs when I say "all y'all").


My favorite Southern/Northern story comes from the Raleigh, NC area...the man who started a local chain of quick oil change stores called a company in Brooklyn, NY, to make their sign. What he ordered was the text "Oil Tune and Lube". What the signmaker HEARD was "All Tune and Lube".

Upon receipt, the business owner decided it would cost less to change the DBA and subsequent incorporation documents than to have the signs redone.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: missangelica on 2007 May 05, 16:20:51
I understand where you are coming from Redlove but at the same time I want to punch ya for making such a huge generalization.  :lol:  I've only been out of Texas for like two days of my life so yeah, it's a bit inevitable that I have a bit of an accent.  Now, that doesn't mean I'm incomprehensible in red neck proportions.  It's just an accent. ;p  

What I can't stand is the New Yorker (and surrounding areas) accent on women.. it's like nails on chalkboard to me.  It's as sexy as a burly truck driver saying he's wearing panties.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: RedLove on 2007 May 05, 16:28:59
Missangelic I live in Tennesse. This is like redneck country around here. I don't really talk *redneck* so to speak but after having friends and hearing people around here who are obviously redneck I just wanna punch in the face and then kill myself. It's SOOOO annoying. I mean yea I don't always pronounce the "g" when I say "talking" or some other word but hell. I atleast speak a little faster then they do. My dad took my car to this guy to have it worked on and it took him  20 minutes to tell me my transmission was about to go out. It went something like "Nooooww loook here. See what ya got here is...and then...but you can fix that by going to...autoshop. You know how to get there? No? Well take a right on the redlight down the street thennnn take a left...naw naw wait wait." God I wanted to punch him so bad. It was funny because we got in the car and my dad was like "Now what we have here is a failure to communicate" *love that movie*


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 May 05, 16:39:53
I'm not sure what you mean by "Queen's English" coz like NO-ONE talks like the Queen. I mean it. That's RP ("Received Pronunciation") and whilst many people speak modified RP (I guess I do a lot of the time) nobody actually speaks proper RP like the Queen. So whatever this "Queen's English" is, it's a load of bollocks. ^^

Nii, what IS a redneck? I'm not sure, and I don't understand the term of speaking like one--how do you communicate?

Oh and bloody hell, I know I talk quickly 'n' all, but for goddess's sakes people-in-America, please talk slow enough for me to undersand you!!!! Bloody hell! The only person I'm aware of who doesn't speak 100-words-a-minute is George-Bloody-Bush, and I don't give a toss what he's saying (except to make fun of it, har har)...


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: missangelica on 2007 May 05, 16:43:12
:lol: I was going to mention how we do talk slower and you put it more eloquently than me.

My youngest sister went to Tennessee with her best friend's family and she told me it was pretty bad.  I feel for ya, really I do.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: alia on 2007 May 05, 16:57:54
Ah, I do not think it is fair to criticize*  Fairywitch because of her spelling/grammar mistakes because I think she is German, and therefore not a native English speaker.

Having said that, her "attack" was rather amusing, to say the least. I doubt she will be back, but just in case she does, here's my answer to her question number 2.

Quote from: "fairywitch"

2. How many of you (thanks for the publicity btw), would sign up with your real username instead of some bogus nick? I don't use any other name than this one and I haven't in 6 years that I've been playing and creating. I don't hide behind different usernames. Why do you?

Yadda yadda yadda...


Well, the simple reason for using this nickname here is the fact that I'd get kicked out of many forums, because I have also posted here. Take the Simbella forum, for example, where Bella bans people solely by association. If I logged in here by my Simbella username, it would probably be taken as a proof that I am a filesharer. I haven't shared anything I got from Simbella, nor have I downloaded any of their waffle store gifts or anything else from SFV/the booty. It wouldn't matter, however, since I'd be guilty by association, and would get banned for 100 years.

So that's why I use a different name here from the one I use at Simbella. And I'm actually more comfortable with the name Alia/SunSun than the others I have used.

*Or is it criticise? Argh! Damn you! Now I'm all confused.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Captain Feathersword on 2007 May 05, 17:00:50
Quote from: "RedLove"
And don't even talk about names. Can't even say Eleanore down here it sounds like "Eliner"

The English pronounce Eleanor as Ellen-uh (it's hard trying to be phonetic for people from other countries).


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: MizzKitty on 2007 May 05, 17:02:59
Ugghhh... I want to join the discussion, but I can't seem to find an angle where I fit in  :lol:

I am not a native speaker. I'm Scandinavian - Danish, to be more exact - if you didn't know. I have never in my life been to any part of America. I have, however, been to England and Wales, and although I did find the dialects (especially in Wales) to be peculiar, it didn't take me too long to adopt it for the duration of my stay. I do that. Apparently I'm good that way with languages. I love the way they say wha' instead of what most places I've been in England.  :lol:

Let me twist this my way.

Denmark is actually very small (about 5 mio residents), but where I'm originally from is... well, the redneck area of our country. There they practice the art of speaking while limiting the amount of facial muscles used as much as possible. I swear, some of them barely open their mouth. And on top of that they love twisting the words (e.g. a word that should be pronounced mah-ied using English pronounciation rules is pronounced as a sharp and fast moi). It took me a while to rid myself of the worst of that.

As a remedy I have only been dating males from clear across the country and I moved to an area with a much prettier almost sing-song dialect. Incidentally this is also the birth town of Hans Christian Andersen. I know, that fact had no home anywhere in this post.  :wink:

And I pretty much speak the queen's Danish by now ;) (yes, we have a queen too, nya nya). Well, I don't really, because our queen's dialect is silly. But I speak a pretty clean version of Danish. One that is understandable for all... that understand Danish.  :lol:


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: missangelica on 2007 May 05, 17:06:35
Quote from: "Captain Feathersword"
The English pronounce Eleanor as Ellen-uh (it's hard trying to be phonetic for people from other countries).


That reminds me of the english lady on Shear Genius who kept on screaming, "HAAAY-UH"  There is a friggin' "r" on hair!  Friggin' people..  If you're not french you can't get away with not pronouncing the word all the way through unless it's slang.  It sounds so lazy.

ETA:  Typically I don't mind and like English accents but this girl has a more "commoner" accent that turns me off.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: RedLove on 2007 May 05, 17:07:07
Quote from: "Pirates Like Sapphires"
I'm not sure what you mean by "Queen's English" coz like NO-ONE talks like the Queen. I mean it. That's RP ("Received Pronunciation") and whilst many people speak modified RP (I guess I do a lot of the time) nobody actually speaks proper RP like the Queen. So whatever this "Queen's English" is, it's a load of bollocks. ^^

Nii, what IS a redneck? I'm not sure, and I don't understand the term of speaking like one--how do you communicate?

Oh and bloody hell, I know I talk quickly 'n' all, but for goddess's sakes people-in-America, please talk slow enough for me to undersand you!!!! Bloody hell! The only person I'm aware of who doesn't speak 100-words-a-minute is George-Bloody-Bush, and I don't give a toss what he's saying (except to make fun of it, har har)...

God you can't even describe redneck. BUT YOU CAN WATCH IT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmuW8K6DOw8)! Redneck at its worst...or best. Not sure which


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Doursim on 2007 May 05, 17:07:39
I don't think anyone caught that this is not a difference between UK spelling and American spelling. Practice and Practise are different WORDS.  They mean different things.

Practice:  to preform work repeatedly as to become proficient.

Practise:  To take advantage of someone

She used a word, it was just the WRONG one.

She may be practising though :)


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: missangelica on 2007 May 05, 17:10:02
Google Jeff Foxworthy and Blue Collar Comedy tour and you'll get your fill on red neck. x_x


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: RedLove on 2007 May 05, 17:12:10
Oh god. I wanna kill myself. They made us watch that on friday because exams were over.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Captain Feathersword on 2007 May 05, 17:33:40
Quote from: "MizzKitty"
As a remedy I have only been dating males from clear across the country and I moved to an area with a much prettier almost sing-song dialect. Incidentally this is also the birth town of Hans Christian Andersen. I know, that fact had no home anywhere in this post.  :wink:


Ooh Odense. I've been there, stayed about 3 days. It was nice and I'd like to go back as I was pretty sick and didn't get to see as much as I wanted. I was hoping to go to the castle on the forest of trees or something. Lots of wood, logs, you know. South East I think. *feels dumb for forgetting*

Your next queen is going to be one of us!
(I may live in England but I'm not one of them.)


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Bigtruckgirl on 2007 May 05, 21:20:53
Quote from: "Pirates Like Sapphires"
I'm not sure what you mean by "Queen's English" coz like NO-ONE talks like the Queen. I mean it. That's RP ("Received Pronunciation") and whilst many people speak modified RP (I guess I do a lot of the time) nobody actually speaks proper RP like the Queen. So whatever this "Queen's English" is, it's a load of bollocks. ^^


Load of bollocks or not (yes I know what that is, we have English friends here. I also love to hear this one guy say fuck off, but that is a different story. LOL), I felt as if I should have curtsied to the chick at the hotel. I have never quite heard English spoke that proper since the Queen was on TV the last time. :lol:  

Really though, We are taught in school that  your English is called "Queen's English," but it has little to do with how proper it is. That is how we discern between "English" (what we speak) and English (What you speak). It really has nothing to do with how you speak it with Received Pronunciation or slang or accent of area. It is just a way to tell the two apart. In other words if you say here "She spoke  English." one would "assume" that it was American style English, because of the type of English we speak here, but if we said "She spoke Queen's English." then one would know that she was from the UK or a territory.  That was why I put it in quotations (or at least I thought I did). Because it is not necessarily "proper hoity-toity" English like the Queen herself speaks, but the difference in American English and UK English.  

Quote from: "Pirates Like Sapphires"
Nii, what IS a redneck? I'm not sure, and I don't understand the term of speaking like one--how do you communicate?


Historically the term comes from those that work in their fields, rural country farmers (because as you work in the fields and your head is tilted down as if to plow, your neck gets sun burnt)  and is largely used as a slang tern. Depending on intent it can either be a complement or insult. It originally was used to describe rural, country people, mostly uneducated, but who were hard working and who spoke with a "country" accent.

Now a days it is associated with the utmost in stupidity and crude/rude demeanor. As RedLove said, it is what Jeff Foxworthy and Blue Collar Comedy tour base their skits and routines on, however there are still those older farmers who don't even think their shit is funny. They play on the common negative stereotypes of this group of people, so take it with a grain of salt.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Bigtruckgirl on 2007 May 05, 21:29:04
Quote from: Bigtruckgirl
Quote from: "Pirates Like Sapphires"
I'm not sure what you mean by "Queen's English" coz like NO-ONE talks like the Queen. I mean it. That's RP ("Received Pronunciation") and whilst many people speak modified RP (I guess I do a lot of the time) nobody actually speaks proper RP like the Queen. So whatever this "Queen's English" is, it's a load of bollocks. ^^


Load of bollocks or not (yes I know what that is, we have English friends here. I also love to hear this one guy say fuck off, but that is a different story. LOL), I felt as if I should have curtsied to the chick at the hotel. I have never quite heard English spoke that proper since the Queen was on TV the last time. :lol:  

Really though, We are taught in school that  your English is called "Queen's English," but it has little to do with how proper it is. That is how we discern between "English" (what we speak) and English (What you speak). It really has nothing to do with how you speak it with Received Pronunciation or slang or accent of area. It is just a way to tell the two apart. In other words if you say here "She spoke  English." one would "assume" that it was American style English, because of the type of English we speak here, but if we said "She spoke Queen's English." then one would know that she was from the UK or a territory.  That was why I put it in quotations (or at least I thought I did). Because it is not necessarily "proper hoity-toity" English like the Queen herself speaks, but the difference in American English and UK English.  

Quote from: "Pirates Like Sapphires"
Nii, what IS a redneck? I'm not sure, and I don't understand the term of speaking like one--how do you communicate?


Historically the term comes from those that work in their fields, rural country farmers (because as you work in the fields and your head is tilted down as if to plow, your neck gets sun burnt)  and is largely used as a slang tern. Depending on intent it can either be a complement or insult. It originally was used to describe rural, country people, mostly uneducated, but who were hard working and who spoke with a "country" accent.

Now a days it is associated with the utmost in stupidity and crude/rude demeanor. As RedLove said, it is what Jeff Foxworthy and Blue Collar Comedy tour base their skits and routines on, however there are still those older farmers who don't even think their shit is funny. They play on the common negative stereotypes of this group of people, so take it with a grain of salt.

Quote from: "alia"
Ah, I do not think it is fair to criticize*  Fairywitch because of her spelling/grammar mistakes because I think she is German, and therefore not a native English speaker.


I am friends with a large group of German people, all still living in Germany and from all age groups. 99.99% of them speak better English that I do. Regardless, there is a thing called a spell check and evidently as we have found out in this thread, most are geared towards the US form of English. If you are going to place a site (and I don't mean this in a mean way and I do mean it for all web sites, not just hers) towards a certain population and then ask for money from that population, it is best to make it look as professional as one can. This means graphics, written word, etcetera. Also, her rant seemed very fluent in English. I'd have to go back through and look to see if she misspelled any of it, but I don't think she did. She seemed pretty proficient especially in the use of English cuss words.  :lol:


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 May 05, 21:46:54
Quote from: "Doursim"
Practice:  to preform work repeatedly as to become proficient.

Practise:  To take advantage of someone


Er, no. Where the BLOODY FUCK did you get that?!!!! I have NEVER encountered the word "practise" to mean that. EVER. That's just weird. It DEFINITELY doesn't mean that over here!! It's the verbial form of "practice" to us, whereas "practice" is the noun...but to take advantage of someone? No...



Quote from: "Captain Feathersword"
Quote from: "RedLove"
And don't even talk about names. Can't even say Eleanore down here it sounds like "Eliner"


The English pronounce Eleanor as Ellen-uh (it's hard trying to be phonetic for people from other countries).


That's my name. ^^ Or one of them, lol. I pronounce it "Ellen-nor" when I'm trying to be posh (then again, my Christian name is posh enough without the middle name Eleanor--that's probably something to be mad at Pescado for, ne? Being saddled with the Scottishly-modified versions of the names of two Scottish grandmothers of mine). When I CBA, I say "Ellen-er"/"Ellen-uh"/"Elin-uh"/"Elin-er". Take your pick, it changes depending on whoever I'm speaking to. ;)


((In case you haven't already seen it, I was rather unfortunately named Cairistiona. A) Nobody can pronounce it, B) Nobody can spell it, C) It's the name of a Scottish princess who drowned on the way to her wedding at age 16 during the 1600s. Whilst I like being named after a princess, the drowning bit usually gets me...and of course, nobody can spell/write it, and it makes me FURIOUS when people can't be bothered to ask first or consult a sheet with my name on it...Pescado's fault again.))


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: fourohfourerror on 2007 May 05, 21:51:40
Showing my internet intellect, what does CBA mean?  It's the second time today I've seen it on this forum.

And do you go by Cairistiona offline?  I would love to have a name that tons of other people don't have!


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Captain Feathersword on 2007 May 05, 22:09:50
I assume it's  Can't Be Arsed. ('cause us speakers of "the Queen's English" don't confuse donkeys with bottoms.)


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 May 05, 22:23:10
Yes, yes it does. ^^^

And I generally go by Cairis. It's much easier for the idiots to pronounce even though there's still 20 spellings it could be. However, the one thing I loathe even more than my name being mispronounced is people who write "Caris". I HATE it. It makes me INSANE!! It's "Cairis"!!!!! *itches to correct the other spelling*

On the interwebz, I usually go by Caz/Cazzy. ^^


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Hecubus on 2007 May 05, 22:30:55
One more redneck moment:

What is the last thing a redneck says before he dies?

"Hey, y'all! Watch THIS!"


Thank you...I'll be here all night...try the veal.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Ensign EO on 2007 May 05, 22:45:01
I have never heard of "practise" to mean taking advantage of someone.

However, the distinction of practise = verb and practice = noun makes sense to me (and I'll be taking note of that), especially when you consider advice/advise.  Advise is a verb, advice is a noun.

No one ever spells my name correctly.  I've seen

Bernadette.  Burnadette.  Briandette.  Brenadette.

My dad always laughs when people spell my name with a U.  It's Bernadeht.  Pronounced the same as Bernadette, just with a different ending.  My nickname tends to get a lot of different spellings as well.

Burny.  Burnie.  Burni.  Berni.  Berny.

And so on.  I shorten it to Bernie.  I think it was when I was complaining about people spelling my name with a U, my not-boyfriend called me Bunny.  Only nickname I'll tolerate from him.  =P

I don't really see what the big deal is about people using American English versus "Queen's English".  For the most part it seems to me just a difference in spelling, and the occasional difference in meaning (e.g. pants).  As long as I can understand what's being said, it's not really an issue for me--it seems like those who use "Queen's English" complain a lot more about the difference in the two than those who use American English.  (I have seen a few people scoff at the use of -our, but I think it's a North Dakotan/hick thing.  Never encountered it before.)


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: ChloroformDreams on 2007 May 05, 23:10:59
I can sympathise with the whole no-one-being-able-to-spell-your-name thing.  My name is a bloody noun and people have trouble spelling it (it's Marina BTW).  Sometimes I just feel like bashing them over the head and shouting, "How stupid are you?!" :roll:

I'm Canadian and I tend to spell things the British way, however because I live so close to the American border the general English people use here is severely bastardised.  People spell things with -our (colour, favour, etc.) but they tend to use Zs and Cs instead of Ss.  I've had several teachers correct me on my spelling and I've had to actually explain to them that some words can be spelt more than one way.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Paden on 2007 May 05, 23:23:02
At least you have names that are not so damn old-fashioned that they belong in the fucking Smithsonian! Try having a name like mine, Eva, which some assholes mispronounce because they are just, well, assholes... It's all Pescado's fault, that is. They will use the Spanish pronunciation, the Netherland pronunciation, or whatever pops into their pointed little heads... Or, they give you a nickname like Evil and get pissed off when you live up to it... Fuck 'em, feed 'em beans. It is Eva, like even but without the "n". I've told people at the DOT to get it right, for God's sake! And when I still used my maiden name, I was always telling them how to spell that, too! I hate my name....


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Granuaile on 2007 May 06, 00:02:42
My first name is Rhea, but you'd be surprised how many people either mispronounce it or misspell it.  One guy even had the nerve to tell me that I spelled my own name wrong, and he wasn't even joking (he thought it should have been spelled Rhee). :shock:

I've heard everything from Are-he-ah, to Ray, to Are-hay and a couple of other versions.  One guy even laughed and said I had one of those weird ethnic names, but I don't think there's anything ethnic at all about it.  It's an old family name, and they came from the British Isles.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: MMEStalker on 2007 May 06, 00:03:57
Quote from: "Pirates Like Sapphires"

Er, no. Where the BLOODY FUCK did you get that?!!!! I have NEVER encountered the word "practise" to mean that. EVER. That's just weird. It DEFINITELY doesn't mean that over here!! It's the verbial form of "practice" to us, whereas "practice" is the noun...but to take advantage of someone? No...


I've used it to mean that before so I looked it up and the OED has it as a meaning of practise:

5) take advantage of; impose upon.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: missangelica on 2007 May 06, 00:09:40
How do you pronounce Rhea?  I would of said "Ray"..

practise
http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+practise

Words evolve though.. just 'cause something meant something in the old days it doesn't mean it means the same now.

All the following means the same but it over time people called it different names.
shell shock->battle fatigue->post traumatic stress disorder


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Captain Feathersword on 2007 May 06, 00:11:50
Cool, what's the usage given?
(My Shorter OED is 10,000 miles away)


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Granuaile on 2007 May 06, 00:15:35
Quote from: "missangelica"
How do you pronounce Rhea?  I would of said "Ray"..


Noooo!  Not you too!  :shock:

I'm just teasing, Missangelica.  It's pronounced "Reee".

I love ethnic names, and I used to wish I had something more exotic when I was younger.  I have a couple of cousins who have cool names, and I used to wish my parents gave me a name like that instead of this one.  

This is OT, but Granuaille was an Irish pirate from way back, but my Irish grandmother has the same name. :)


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: ChloroformDreams on 2007 May 06, 00:15:40
If Rhea is pronounced the same as the Greek titaness Rhea, it would be Rhee-uh, no?

ETA: Guess not.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Captain Feathersword on 2007 May 06, 00:19:31
Quote from: "ChloroformDreams"
If Rhea is pronounced the same as the Greek titaness Rhea, it would be Rhee-uh, no?

That's how I would say it without being told.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: MMEStalker on 2007 May 06, 00:21:27
Quote from: "Captain Feathersword"
Cool, what's the usage given?
(My Shorter OED is 10,000 miles away)


Hang on, suddenly having difficulty finding the page... Ah, they were stuck together with marshmallow.

5) (foll. by on, upon) take advantage of; impose upon (a man would practise upon him who trusts)


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Granuaile on 2007 May 06, 00:21:41
Maybe it's an Illinois thing?  Most people around here pronounce it "Ree". ;)


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Captain Feathersword on 2007 May 06, 00:29:19
Thanks.
The "followed by" makes it less strange and I'm sure I've read it in that context before.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Ensign EO on 2007 May 06, 00:53:30
I pronounce Rhea as Ray-uh.

I have never heard of anyone insist that another person was spelling their own name incorrectly.  I'll have to start doing that to people.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: missangelica on 2007 May 06, 00:57:17
I'm very confused about how "a" can be turned into "uh".. I'm trying not to think about it too much because I'm starting to get a headache.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: MizzKitty on 2007 May 06, 01:01:01
Funny. Ray-uh and Ree-uh would also be my choices. Probably Ree-uh first...

My name is Maria and people should be able to spell that, right? Wrong. People always think my name is Marie :( (Around here pronounced Mah-ree-uh, where Maria is pronounced Mah-ree-a) and even my great grandmother got it wrong when she painted a porcelain mug for me when I was a child and it says in beautiful writing Mariea. I kid you not.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: RedLove on 2007 May 06, 01:04:16
Quote from: "Ensign EO"
I pronounce Rhea as Ray-uh.

I have never heard of anyone insist that another person was spelling their own name incorrectly.  I'll have to start doing that to people.


Me too. But that's just because of the people around me. We generally don't say. Ah but Uh. Near where I live. Even the teachers say Uh :lol:

Ree-uh would be like my fifth guess


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Ensign EO on 2007 May 06, 01:05:07
Quote from: "MizzKitty"
Mah-ree-uh [...] Mah-ree-a


What's the difference? -a like ray?


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: MizzKitty on 2007 May 06, 01:17:43
Quote from: "Ensign EO"
Quote from: "MizzKitty"
Mah-ree-uh [...] Mah-ree-a


What's the difference? -a like ray?


a like... alumin(i?)um... the first a there :D... and uh is like... errr... yea! like err... or Earl... or... ya know :D




P.S. Off Topic: My Ramaswami family just hit jackpot and had the 2nd set of triplets to ever be born in my game (chance is at 3%). This is so sad because they have a big sister and she is so damn fugly!
(http://a175.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/38/l_f1776f829ed391a27198f7cf7ac0620e.jpg)
I shudder to see her and her sisters and her brother as adults....


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Granuaile on 2007 May 06, 01:21:55
Quote from: "MizzKitty"
Mah-ree-uh, where Maria is pronounced Mah-ree-a)


Believe it or not, that's how we pronounce it over here too.

I dunno', I think we Chicagoans have a tendency to butcher the English language.  Most of us say "dey" instead of "they", "dese" instead of "these" and so on.  Plus, instead of asking "What are you doing?", it sounds like "Whattayadoing?"


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 May 06, 01:45:21
People have told me I spell my name wrong too.

Maria to me = M-a-ree-a

Rhea to me = Ray-a


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: RedLove on 2007 May 06, 01:49:47
People say my name wrong ALL THE TIME. I had one teacher tell me I was saying it wrong. She kept putting emphasis on the K so my name sounded like *coming from her most annoying accent* Nah ahr KAHEE sha. When its really supposed to Nar-Kee-Shah. That's why I just said screw that and had them put NiNi or LiLi (Lee Lee not Lily)as my nickname. I have no time to correct people.

ETA: I don't like my name. I don't like when people spell it I don't like when people try to say it. Don't try you'll fail. You'll always fail. Not because you're wrong but because I said so. :lol: No but really if you don't wanna call me RedLove just call me Nii or LiLi.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 May 06, 01:54:39
Because I haven't actually explained how you pronounce my name yet (and there will be people somewhere pacing it out), it's Ca-riss-ty-own-a (or Ca-riss-teeeeeee-on-a if I choose to put an accent on the third i). Stress on the "Ca" not the "riss" btw. Cairistiona, not Cairistiona. ^^


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Ensign EO on 2007 May 06, 02:01:01
Quote from: "MizzKitty"
a like... alumin(i?)um... the first a there :D... and uh is like... errr... yea! like err... or Earl... or... ya know :D


Hm, I see.  Your -a is my -uh.  =P


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Granuaile on 2007 May 06, 02:11:08
Quote from: "Pirates Like Sapphires"
Rhea to me = Ray-a


I wonder if that's how it was originally pronounced, especially since my ancestors came from England, Scottland, Wales and Ireland.  I wouldn't be surprised if the pronunciation changed over the years, especially over here.

Quote from: "Red Love"
When its really supposed to Nar-Kee-Shah. That's why I just said screw that and had them put NiNi or LiLi (Lee Lee not Lily)as my nickname. I have no time to correct people.


I love your name!  Is it spelled Narkeisha, Narkeishia or Narkisha?  I'm just asking out of curiosity.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: MizzKitty on 2007 May 06, 02:16:59
Quote from: "Ensign EO"
Quote from: "MizzKitty"
a like... alumin(i?)um... the first a there :D... and uh is like... errr... yea! like err... or Earl... or... ya know :D


Hm, I see.  Your -a is my -uh.  =P


 :lol:

Gotta love cross-linguistic phonetics. It's doomed because in Danish we even roll the r's differently and our "i" is sorta like your "ee" but not quite etc... But I don't care. I don't mind the English/American way(s) to say it.

It's funny, though, that my parents first wanted to call me Mary (pronounced in English) but refrained since they figured too many would be calling me *thinks long and hard* Mar-hy. Last bit sounds like... Forget it there's nothing like it. Anyhoo, trust me when I say that Danish way of saying it - fugly.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: missangelica on 2007 May 06, 02:18:23
I can only say in confidence that English teachers can say my last name properly without being prompted.  It warms my heart when they do.  ^^  

Although, some can't get the first name right, which is odd.  Most common mispronunciation is An-gel-EEK-uh..  If they don't get it right after being corrected like three times I give up and let them say whatever they want to say the rest of the semester.

ETA:  Yeah, teachers typically have like 150 students per semester then it changes and they get a whole new crop of kids after like four months so you just gotta let some things slide.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Granuaile on 2007 May 06, 02:21:47
Quote from: "missangelica"
Although, some can't get the first name right, which is odd.  Most common mispronunciation is An-gel-EEK-ah..  If they don't get it right after being corrected like three times I give up and let them say whatever they want to say the rest of the semester.


My cousin went through that a lot too, and she just gave up after awhile.  Her name's Larissa, so she's heard it all (it's pronounced "Lar-i-sah).

Maybe the people are saying your name like they do in Italy, where your name comes from?  Nowadays, a lot of people prefer the ethnic pronunciation as opposed to the Anglicized version of the name.


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Post by: missangelica on 2007 May 06, 02:24:19
Well, with the Nickeloden cartoon, Rugrats, that has a character named Angelica, it's made my life a lot easier with my peers.  The show pronounces it the same way I do.

Another weird thing:  I have a WOW character whose name is Clarica.  I had a friend pronounce it as Clarissa (Claire-is-sah).. I had to turn off my microphone and laugh my rear end off when he kept saying it that way.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Granuaile on 2007 May 06, 02:30:19
That's true about Angelica from the Rugrats helping your peers pronounce your name right.  When I first saw your name, I thought of that character for some reason.  :lol:

We used to tape that show when our older kids were little.  Now, our youngest is hooked on it. :)


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Post by: Ensign EO on 2007 May 06, 02:31:03
Quote from: "MizzKitty"
roll the r's differently


Rolling Rs is fun!  First couple days of Latin we all had to emphasize the trilled Rs, especially with words that had two Rs like ferre.

Latin pronunciation makes me want to apply it to English--like Vs sounding like Ws.  Except sometimes I'll want to write it the way it sounds so I end up writing words that should be with a V with a W instead on my dictations...

My last name gets mispronounced a lot.  The first syllable is ee (like even), but people insist on eh (like elephant).  The last syllable gets fudged up too.  I don't think I've ever seen my last name misspelt, but obviously my first name gets spelt incorrectly a lot.

(I like to think I don't have an accent, but apparently I develop one when I speak in Tagalog.  >.>)


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Bigtruckgirl on 2007 May 06, 14:00:24
Quote from: "ChloroformDreams"
If Rhea is pronounced the same as the Greek titaness Rhea, it would be Rhee-uh, no?

ETA: Guess not.


This is how I would have pronounced it too.




Quote from: "Pirates Like Sapphires"
Because I haven't actually explained how you pronounce my name yet (and there will be people somewhere pacing it out), it's Ca-riss-ty-own-a (or Ca-riss-teeeeeee-on-a if I choose to put an accent on the third i). Stress on the "Ca" not the "riss" btw. Cairistiona, not Cairistiona. ^^



It may surprise you, but that was how I thought it might be pronounced. With the stress on the "Ca" as in Cairn (the burial mound or a Terrier). Then again my family is largely of Scottish Decent and some of my family have stayed in small groups of Scottish decedents in Florida, so we have this "odd" accent mix. Until he passed away, my Great Grandfather still spoke with a "Scottish brogue" and he had never stepped foot in Scotland.     :lol:


My name is easy for most. It is Biblical, but in the modern spelling.Not too many people screw up Rebecca. LOL  My children on the other hand may have some issues, especially the oldest, but that is my husband's fault, not mine.   :lol:

My maiden name got screwed up more ways that not, but now I have a very simple 4 letter last name.... wait even people here mess that up too.  :shock:


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Pescado on 2007 May 06, 14:05:55
See, I avoided this problem entirely. In my family, we pick our own names when we're 6, until which we're simply referred to by titles like "Maggot" and "Worm", and reminded constantly of how useless and pathetic we are. I have a simple enough name, but in retrospect, I should have picked "Richard". It would have been so much funnier. Alas, we don't get the same level of input on our last names. "Richard Head" would have been a great name, though.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Pucci on 2007 May 06, 15:44:48
Quote from: "Pescado"
"Richard Head" would have been a great name, though.


When I was little, my parents named one of our cats "Richard Cranium."


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Steroide on 2007 May 06, 16:52:40
Quote from: "MizzKitty"
But I speak a pretty clean version of Danish. One that is understandable for all... that understand Danish.  :lol:

Bah! Humbug! Danish has never been understandable!
You speak with your tounge down your throats! :lol:


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: rickets on 2007 May 06, 17:26:02
I think I might win the name contest because I can't really pronounce my own first name.  

My white parents in a post-flower child moment decided to become Zen Buddhists and saddled me with this: Wiruherumina

I have been Mina throughout most of my life and the name was legally changed when I hit 18.  

I have had some wonderful moments when people have had to read "Wiruherumina" aloud and I'm always interested to see how it turns out.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Doursim on 2007 May 06, 17:28:43
wiruherumina sounds like the Japanese pronunciation of Wilhilmina.  Can't imagine why they would saddle you with something that should only be written in katakana. lol.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 May 06, 22:58:21
Rickets: I pronounced that how it looks and it's not too bad.

Becky: Well, not the "Ca" as in "Cairn". That would make my name ick. :P Ca-r. Not Cair. ^^^^

Pescado: I know someone (by association) called Richard Head. The poor sod. His parents didn't realise until it was way too late...
(Out of insolent curiosity, I desperately want to know what your name actually is. Feel free to attack me for being stupid, or something, or because I'm not awesome enough to know or whatever. If it's hidden somewhere I'll find out. ^^ However, it's something boring like John...*shakes head in regret*)


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Lorelei on 2007 May 07, 03:23:30
Friends and acquaintances:

Mirhi = Mah Rye Ah
Ziana = Zy Knee
Jerimey= Jeremy
Schulyer=Sky Lar
Siobhan=Shuh Vahhn

etc.

Though there was a kid I went to high school with who was so incredibly dim that he regularly misspelled his own name as "Micheal".

A friend of mine has other people misspell her name as "Shelia" constantly.

My own name has been misspelled so often that it irks. The common misspelling is to put "e"s in it when it has none. Nevermind what it actually is, I don't give out my first name online if I don't have to. :) And why someone couldn't cut and paste it when replying to me always baffled me.

The constant mangling of my name's spelling, however, is why I go by a nickname online friends chose for me ages ago ("Milla") online and off these days, as it is harder to spell incorrectly, but pronouncing it (Mee Lah) can be a challenge for some.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Bigtruckgirl on 2007 May 07, 12:21:01
Quote from: "Pirates Like Sapphires"


Becky: Well, not the "Ca" as in "Cairn". That would make my name ick. :P Ca-r. Not Cair. ^^^^


I meant to show it as a hard "C" not that the "A" was pronounced the same, just the hard C at the beginning. Cairn has a sound "A" as in Karen, yours has the "A" as you said in Car, but both words have the same hard "C."

Maybe Cairn was not the best choice to show that. It is SO hard to try and spell out how to sound out names. :lol:

Or, maybe we are mispronouncing Cairn, because the emphasis is much like Car. Meaning a very hard "C" (much like the name Karen as above)  with the a very light a (as in air), the I pretty much silent and the r very light and the n short. In fact the whole word is pretty much pronounced like the name Karen here, just without the "E" sound. All said with a distinct roll that I have never been able to master.

Anywho (yes that is a made up word, maybe it needs to go in the other thread.  :lol: ) I think I could pronounce your name with no problems. I think we are both getting at the same sound, I'm just no good at example words for sounds. LOL :D


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 May 07, 13:30:20
Okay okay. Your description confused me. Not the a in "air". :P My name sorta rhymes with Karen. Ka-ren, Ka-riss. So much better. ^^ lol ^^^^^^

Lorelei: To me, Siobhan is pronounced Shuh-vaughn, not Shuh-vahn...I have a girl in my class named that, Shiv for short. ^^


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Lorelei on 2007 May 07, 14:54:22
Quote from: "Pirates Like Sapphires"

Lorelei: To me, Siobhan is pronounced Shuh-vaughn, not Shuh-vahn...


Same here; I typoed the phonetic attempt and had 2 h's, and the first h should have been a u.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: LDE on 2007 May 07, 15:22:03
umm OT: that site is nothing special and isn't really worth the time, which is probably why we are now discussing name pronunciation.

i have had to argue with exactly one person about the spelling of my name and that was simply because she insisted that i was just making up a nickname to suit my own purposes or make me interesting..look, my name is Catherine..i go by Cat..not kat..if i used a k it would be me making shit up...god damn you.

bah i wish i had a more interesting name.

although my oldest daughter is Isabella (ee-sa-bella, accent on the "ee") and i HATE when people call her Is-A-Bella...yes she is a beauty but thats not how you say her name!


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 May 07, 15:45:29
I love the name Isabella but pronouncing it like that hurts my throat. :( I'm all for Italian names, but...*shrugs* The urge to call her "is" rather than "ees" would be too strong...
One of my teachers named her daughter that, Molly Isabella; two of my absolute favourite names. ^^

My cousin is called Catharine and recently she decided to respell it Katharine...it disturbs me because the first is much prettier, and she now gets called Katie a lot, which she hates! I'd go for "Cathie" rather than "Katie" but anyway...


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Doursim on 2007 May 07, 16:04:15
See I agree!  As a Kathleen I feel like only I and Katrina's, are allowed to go by Kat, Kate, or Katie.  I also am deeply annoyed by Kathleens who spell their name with a C.  I have an inherent mistrust of such people :P


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Post by: Electricstatic on 2007 May 07, 16:04:56
My niece is named Isabella, pronounced Is-A-Bella, and I don't really care if it's not pronounced correctly, because she is still the most beautiful creature alive!! *proud aunt*

My name is Stephanie and all throughout French in elementary school the teachers would put an accent on the first e in my name. STAY-FAN-EE. But I pronounce it STEFF-AN-EE. It was even worse with the guys named Chris who were called "Christoph" by the teachers. Oi!


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 May 07, 16:08:52
Electric: I wish our teachers did that! Everyone was called by their name with a very English accent. In primary school I used to say my name was "Christine" in French class. People still ignored me.


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Post by: Doursim on 2007 May 07, 16:10:11
That is just how foreigners are :)  They will never say your name right ;)  It is also how some haughty people are too :P  Try having a TH in your name, that always stirs things up.  My name in Japan:Kyasarin.  Korea: Kasleen, Germany:Kazleen.  Lots of fun combos :D


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Hecubus on 2007 May 07, 16:24:02
My name is a clusterfuck for both spelling and pronouciation.

My first name is Kimberley, NOT Kimberly. And I HATE the second spelling.

My last name (not gonna tell ya) is a good old German name, which Germans have no problem pronouncing, but Americans do. It is tortured, turned French or Italian or completely changed (people change the U to an OI, for example). And there are lots of consonants that sound alike..the D/P/V/B/T group, so spelling it out doesn't help either.  Oh well. At least it's unusual....I'm not one of a million American Lisa Smiths!


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: missangelica on 2007 May 07, 16:49:13
My last name is also german.  My ancestors had the forethought to shorten it though when they came to the US.  They were that eager to be Americans and forget that they were German.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Phelim on 2007 May 07, 18:59:37
I've got such a simple name.  Nicole.  That's not difficult, right?

And yet, the man who named me, my dad, frequently spells it Nichole, which makes me want to strangle him.

And yet, though I live in the USA, far too many people use the French pronunciation, which makes me want to kick someone in the teeth.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: RedLove on 2007 May 07, 19:30:29
Quote from: "Granuaile"

Quote from: "Red Love"
When its really supposed to Nar-Kee-Shah. That's why I just said screw that and had them put NiNi or LiLi (Lee Lee not Lily)as my nickname. I have no time to correct people.


I love your name!  Is it spelled Narkeisha, Narkeishia or Narkisha?  I'm just asking out of curiosity.


Narkeasha. =| But for some reason they always add an I before the a which makes it Narkeashia. I asked one teacher why she did that and this was her reply. I swear she said this "Well because all black people have i's in there names right?" I couldn't even be mad at her because she sounded so pitiful and ignorant.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 May 07, 19:35:53
Quote from: "Phelim"
And yet, though I live in the USA, far too many people use the French pronunciation, which makes me want to kick someone in the teeth.


How do you pronounce it then?


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: MizzKitty on 2007 May 07, 19:38:38
Quote from: "RedLove"
Narkeasha. =| But for some reason they always add an I before the a which makes it Narkeashia. I asked one teacher why she did that and this was her reply. I swear she said this "Well because all black people have i's in there names right?" I couldn't even be mad at her because she sounded so pitiful and ignorant.


 :lol: My only black friend's name is Dhool (and NOBODY can pronounce that so we have leave to call her whatever we like. 'Doll' and 'Mother Goose' are my personal favourites).

I think it's more like saying "All girls' names end with an -a". A lot of names do, but it's such a blatant untruth that it's hard to argue against it other than saying "errr... no"?  :roll:


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Ensign EO on 2007 May 07, 22:09:51
Quote from: "MizzKitty"
I think it's more like saying "All girls' names end with an -a".


In Latin, maybe.  But even then you have names like Geta, which is a male's name.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Feverish on 2007 May 07, 23:24:55
Quote from: RedLove
Narkeasha. =| But for some reason they always add an I before the a which makes it Narkeashia. I asked one teacher why she did that and this was her reply. I swear she said this "Well because all black people have i's in there names right?" I couldn't even be mad at her because she sounded so pitiful and ignorant.

I'm black, and my name is ***. There's no i in it.
Of course I've had quite a few people call me "ContesTa" which I hate!
And even one girl in high school called me Francesca.
And a male friend from high school use to emphasize the first part to sound like "CUNT-essa".
He was such a diva.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: cogitoergosim on 2007 May 07, 23:34:48
Quote from: "Feverish"
I'm black, and my name is Contessa.


I'm from Italy. Did you know that Contessa means "countess"?


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Feverish on 2007 May 07, 23:43:25
Yes.
I looked it up in the dictionary one day.
I think Mommy Dearest got my name from a soap opera though.lol
I like my name.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Pucci on 2007 May 07, 23:44:47
I have a pretty simple name, Rachel, yet EVERY single person I've met asks how to spell it. Thanks to people who add an extra "A" towards the end, like Rachael or Racheal. Maybe it's just me, but that second "A" is totally unnecessary. Not to mention the random "Y" and "T" people sometimes think belong in my name.

Also, my clever (a.k.a. jackass) father gave me the initials RAT on purpose, because my mother's are CAT. Hilarity ensued!


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: missangelica on 2007 May 07, 23:45:21
My mother got my first name from Anjelica Huston, the actress, and then my middle name from a little girl on a soap opera.  *pat pat*  We're on the same boat. ^^


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Feverish on 2007 May 07, 23:52:56
I love the names McKenzie, Genevieve, Guinevere, and Phoenix.
I use to like the name Shiloh but damn Angelina Jolie...that bitch.
There will be about a million Shiloh's walking around by the time I start having kids.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: keirra on 2007 May 08, 00:01:33
My high school friend, 20 years ago, named her daughter Shiloh.  Wasn't it Neil Diamond that sang that song "Shiloh, the night is young"?  Yep...that shows my age.  :lol:


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Feverish on 2007 May 08, 00:07:24
Um...
Who is Neil Diamond? :roll:
just kidding


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: missangelica on 2007 May 08, 00:07:36
When I hear Shiloh I think about the book about the dog and it being abused. x_x


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: RedLove on 2007 May 08, 00:21:22
I HATE when people name their child after months. It bugs me Sooo much. I know a girl named August and I refuse to call her that so I just call her Ogie (OH GEE *hard g*) I also hate when people try to be all cool and name their kid after the sun or moon in a different language. Although I do love the name Selene.

How exactly did we get on this topic?


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Feverish on 2007 May 08, 00:24:11
I use to think August was a girl's name. The people started telling me it was a guys name.
If you consider Augustus, then August does sound more like a male name.
I prefer the name Augustus or Augustine rather than August though.

My mom said if I was a boy she was gonna name me Courtney.
*thanks God she was born with a vagina*


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Hecubus on 2007 May 08, 00:25:39
OH! When I was in 8th grade, my health teacher, Mrs. Showers, left to have her twin girls.

She named them.....yeah...you probably guessed already....

April and May.

Those girls are almost 30 now. I hope they either got married or changed their names. I can't imagine going through life as April Showers.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Feverish on 2007 May 08, 00:28:19
I hate when people have twins and rhyme their names.
Bob and Rob.
Stacey and Lacey.
Molly and Holly.
I'd want to shoot myself if my name rhymed with one of my sisters'.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Doursim on 2007 May 08, 00:31:14
Bob and Rob would be confusing, since they are nicknames of the same name.. Robert.  O.O  I liked Philip and Lilian, from the old nickleodian show ... Drat can't remember the name of the show now.  The cast was all babies.    Anyway, I thought that was creative for twins.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Silvercoin on 2007 May 08, 00:40:10
Isn't it Rugrats, Doursim?


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: missangelica on 2007 May 08, 00:40:33
Rugrats, Doursim.   :wink:


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Yaardarm Monkey on 2007 May 08, 02:54:59
Quote from: "Feverish"
I use to think August was a girl's name. The people started telling me it was a guys name.
If you consider Augustus, then August does sound more like a male name.
I prefer the name Augustus or Augustine rather than August though.

My mom said if I was a boy she was gonna name me Courtney.
*thanks God she was born with a vagina*



the actor is the first person that I think of when I see the name August:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Schellenberg


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: LDE on 2007 May 08, 13:54:30
Redlove
Quote
how did we get on this topic anyway?


because the actual topic was stale and there was little left to say once the paysite in questions propritress stopped coming back to argue :D

about the Is-A v Ee-sa thing..we are mostly italian(only 2nd gen americans) and have a VERY italian last name (if you can say it you can't spell it and vice versa) so we use the proper pronunciation of Isabella...of course that didn't stop my moms best friend from insisting on calling her izzy...dear god i HATE izzy!

hmm so all black folk have 'i's' in thier names? i never knew that, i'll have to tell my friend derrek he has to change his name. idiotic stereotypes,geez.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Phelim on 2007 May 08, 17:09:16
Quote from: "Pirates Like Sapphires"
Quote from: "Phelim"
And yet, though I live in the USA, far too many people use the French pronunciation, which makes me want to kick someone in the teeth.


How do you pronounce it then?


Gosh, step away for a day and the thread explodes.  To answer your question, though, according to dictionary.com, I pronounce it ni-KOHL


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: SparklePlenty on 2007 May 08, 18:19:42
Quote from: "Phelim"
Quote from: "Pirates Like Sapphires"
Quote from: "Phelim"
And yet, though I live in the USA, far too many people use the French pronunciation, which makes me want to kick someone in the teeth.


How do you pronounce it then?


Gosh, step away for a day and the thread explodes.  To answer your question, though, according to dictionary.com, I pronounce it ni-KOHL


That's how I would normally pronounce it. How do the ones who say it in the "French" way say it? (Frankly, I can't think how else you would pronounce Nichole or Nicole.)


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: liegenschonheit on 2007 May 08, 18:23:00
French say it 'NEE-cole', with the accent on the first syllable.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: RedLove on 2007 May 08, 19:59:49
That's how I say it. Nee-kohl. Just like when I say Jennifer I say Jen NEE fer.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Phelim on 2007 May 08, 20:57:18
Quote from: "RedLove"
That's how I say it. Nee-kohl. Just like when I say Jennifer I say Jen NEE fer.


Whereas I would say JEN-ih-fer.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: FreakyBooty on 2007 May 08, 22:52:32
Okay, now I have to chime in, because my name is Jennifer, pronounced the way Phelim says it.  The only time I've ever heard it pronounced the way RedLove says it, is when someone is playing around.
Anyway, I used to really like my name.  When I was born, almost 4 decades ago  :(  it was none too common.  Now I can't go anywhere without hearing some parent shouting it.  I'm forever turning around to see who's calling me, and invariably, it's not directed at me.  Sucks.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Phelim on 2007 May 08, 23:59:40
It's like, there was a girl I went to elementary school with.  Her name was Jolé (Jo-LEE).  Teachers were constantly calling her Joel.

I'd have kicked them in the teeth... right after I crawled on top of a chair or desk so I could reach better.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 May 08, 23:59:44
I say Jen-i-fer and Ni-col/kohl. ^^ I detest "Ni-kole". Doesn't it sound hideous!?!
And you'd think Rebecca isn't hard but when me and my best friend were little my mum got pencil cases made for us. They were fine with mine but misspelt her name as "Rebbeccah"!!!! HOW do you manage that lol?!

You know what makes me laugh? Most of the kids in my class at school are called Sarah or James. Now that's boring for you. Though I'm naming my son James, I've decided, if I have a son. ^^ We have quite a few Daniels too.

This is hilarious for bad names. I unearthed it in the first 40 pages of the Carla Niven thread I believe:

http://www.notwithoutmyhandbag.com/babynames/index.html


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: pepelutivursky on 2007 May 09, 00:43:05
Quote from: "Pirates Like Sapphires"
You know what makes me laugh? Most of the kids in my class at school are called Sarah or James. Now that's boring for you. Though I'm naming my son James, I've decided, if I have a son. ^^ We have quite a few Daniels too.


When I was a kid, all the girls I went to school with were Jennifers and Amandas - which would include me.  Amanda is an awfully hard name to fuck up but people still manage it.
Oh but they did love messing with my maiden name.  Put random letters in there, pronounce it in astounding ways and all that.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Feverish on 2007 May 09, 00:55:34
My last name is usually spelled wrong.
It's even spelled wrong on my birth certificate.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: donovan on 2007 May 09, 01:15:33
I just had to post this and it's in response to those of you who were named after soap opera characters:
My mother named me 'Erin Elizabeth' because she heard the mother from "The Waltons" call the names out like that and thought it sounded pretty.
It's also very frustrating to be a female and see you named constantly spelled "Aaron," the traditional masculine spelling of the name.  And also given the fact that I live in a very, very Irish Catholic neighborhood, they should really know better.  "Erin Go Braugh" indeed.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Doursim on 2007 May 09, 01:53:09
I can't believe that anyone would be so dense to spell Erin:  Aaron.   I have seen boys with the E but never the other way around.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: RedLove on 2007 May 09, 02:01:15
Quote from: "FreakyBooty"
Okay, now I have to chime in, because my name is Jennifer, pronounced the way Phelim says it.  The only time I've ever heard it pronounced the way RedLove says it, is when someone is playing around.
Anyway, I used to really like my name.  When I was born, almost 4 decades ago  :(  it was none too common.  Now I can't go anywhere without hearing some parent shouting it.  I'm forever turning around to see who's calling me, and invariably, it's not directed at me.  Sucks.


I think its because I have a lot of hispanic friends named Jennifer for some reason. And just from being around them and their families emphasizing the NI part just became natural. Of course they call me Nee Keesha and I've never picked that up :lol:


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: fourohfourerror on 2007 May 09, 03:19:53
Out of 17 girls in my class one high school year, we had 5 Crystals, myself included, with 3 different spellings.  My dad named me, after Crystal Gail, and always told me I would grow up to have hair to my feet.   :lol:


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: pepelutivursky on 2007 May 09, 04:39:43
Quote from: "fourohfourerror"
Out of 17 girls in my class one high school year, we had 5 Crystals, myself included, with 3 different spellings.  My dad named me, after Crystal Gail, and always told me I would grow up to have hair to my feet.   :lol:


I feel you, I was named after the Waylon Jennings' song myself.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Phelim on 2007 May 09, 06:24:57
Ha!  I was named after a Parisian lady of loose virtue!


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Bigtruckgirl on 2007 May 09, 11:03:08
Quote from: "Pirates Like Sapphires"

And you'd think Rebecca isn't hard but when me and my best friend were little my mum got pencil cases made for us. They were fine with mine but misspelt her name as "Rebbeccah"!!!! HOW do you manage that lol?!



Looks like they tried to combine the Biblical spelling and the modern spelling.

Rebecca being modern, Rebekah being Biblical and well, I can't explain it.  :lol:



Quote from: "Doursim"
I can't believe that anyone would be so dense to spell Erin:  Aaron.   I have seen boys with the E but never the other way around.



I grew up with a girl who was an Aaron. Never did understand it because like the rest of you Erin is a girl, but Aaron is a boy. :D


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 May 09, 17:54:33
There's a guy who came over from New Zealand to Jersey last week and he plays music with my parents. He's called Aaron. However, he pronounces it "Air-on" in whatever non-English language he speaks (he speaks English too, but it's not his mothertongue). People around the table called him "A-ron" and "Erin" and "Air-on" all night (the first night they met him) until someone asked him, "How is your name pronounced?" and he went all upset and wailed, "I don't know!" I loved that when my Mum told me. ^^^ I said to just call him "A-ron"; that's how we'd say it over here, and so my parents do now. But the poor bloke. I guess he never had any need to know how his name is said in English though, before he came over...but still! Not knowing how your own name is pronounced... :lol:

Oh yeah, I went to school with 5 Aarons. All in the same class, too. This was my last school; thankfully I don't have ANY Aarons at this school. For 3 years ALL my male main story characters were called Aaron--that's how bad it was! Now they're all called James. ;) They were Ash for a time too, but that's not important. ^^^ :lol:  :lol: :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  8)  8)


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Ash Redfern on 2007 May 09, 19:54:14
Quote from: "Pirates Like Sapphires"
They were Ash for a time too, but that's not important. ^^^ :lol:  :lol: :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  8)  8)


I wouldn't have any clue as to why that would be. ;)


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 May 09, 21:06:25
Quote from: "ash_redfern"
Quote from: "Pirates Like Sapphires"
They were Ash for a time too, but that's not important. ^^^ :lol:  :lol: :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  8)  8)


I wouldn't have any clue as to why that would be. ;)



I know, me neither, it couldn't possibly have anything to do with the guy your username is about... 8)  8)  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  8)  :wink:


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: alia on 2007 May 09, 21:46:18
Quote from: "Pirates Like Sapphires"


This is hilarious for bad names. I unearthed it in the first 40 pages of the Carla Niven thread I believe:

http://www.notwithoutmyhandbag.com/babynames/index.html


 :lol: Thanks so much for that link, Cazzy! I'm always having trouble with coming up names for my sims, but no more! Not with that! Mwahaha!

Seriously, I'd say the pregnancy hormones are messing up these women's brains, but some of the names are suggested by men. I can only pity those children.  :lol:


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: ItsaPiratesLifeferMe on 2007 May 09, 21:51:48
I was also named after a character from a soap opera..Ashlie(I'm sure hers was spelt ashley) from The Young and the Restless. My sisters name is Rachelle pronounced Rachel and i'm pretty sure every person to ever read her name aloud has said ra-shell....I suppose that would be my mothers fault for the unique spelling though!


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Tchannie on 2007 May 09, 22:08:13
Rachelle IS Rashell. It's French. And it IS Rashell! :P to your mum! :wink:

And Ashlie...lol, that's Ashlie Tisdale's name, isn't it?

No problem Alia, and there's a forum too. I'm on there laughing right now. ^^


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: ItsaPiratesLifeferMe on 2007 May 09, 22:57:31
Lol I have no idea...maybe my mother has a secret thing for the french my middle name is Jacqueline.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: SparklePlenty on 2007 May 10, 14:56:30
Quote from: "FreakyBooty"
Okay, now I have to chime in, because my name is Jennifer, pronounced the way Phelim says it.  The only time I've ever heard it pronounced the way RedLove says it, is when someone is playing around.
Anyway, I used to really like my name.  When I was born, almost 4 decades ago  :(  it was none too common.  Now I can't go anywhere without hearing some parent shouting it.  I'm forever turning around to see who's calling me, and invariably, it's not directed at me.  Sucks.


I was born 5 decades ago, and my middle (and most used) name is Lynn. I believe every girl born in the 1950s in America was required to be named Lynn, at least for a middle name. All of my best friends (about 10 women aged 50 and over) are all Lynn. All through school, it was a 50/50 chance that any girl you met was named Lynn. (Or Lynne) (Laura Lynn, Brenda Lynn, Barbara Lynn, Deborah Lynn, Rachel Lynn, Jennifer Lynn, Jessica Lynn, etc.)

I named my daughter Jaymi Lynn (after Jamie Lee Curtis and myself.)
I was a big horror movie fan at the time. (Late 1970s.)

 :wink:


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Doursim on 2007 May 10, 14:59:01
wow, you are so right, my mom, (who's about 55 now) is Rebecca Lynn O.O  Lynn isn't even a family name.  :?


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: missangelica on 2007 May 10, 15:13:22
Erm, well my mother's name is Sandra Sue and was born in 1954.. and I can't think of one relative with "Lynn" in her name.

I don't know if you were joking about it being required or not because it's obviously not the case..

(And yes, we're Americans.)


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Hecubus on 2007 May 10, 15:27:22
Quote from: "SparklePlenty"

I was born 5 decades ago, and my middle (and most used) name is Lynn. I believe every girl born in the 1950s in America was required to be named Lynn, at least for a middle name.  :wink:


In the 1960s, all girls had to have Ann, Lisa, or Kimberly in their names. I graduated in a class of 200 with 13 Kimberlys...seven of which were Kimberly Ann.

And yes, miss a, of COURSE she was kidding. I am too.

Or maybe we're not.

Yeah, we are.

No, not really.

::::nods yes:::

::shakes head no::::

::::nods yes:::

::shakes head no::::


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Jojoba on 2007 May 10, 16:30:13
Maybe we are all secretly called Lynn...including Pescado!  *shifty eyes*


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: Ensign EO on 2007 May 12, 04:46:23
Ew, I don't like the name Jamie.  Jamy.  Jaymi.  Jaymie.  Jaaaaaaaiiiiimiiiieii.  Any name that sounds like it should be a nickname, but really isn't, bothers me.

Someone I knew from Seaside was named Johnnie (female), and I always wondered what the hell it was short for.

It wasn't short for anything.  Drives me crazy.


Title: New Paysite Alert
Post by: MizzKitty on 2007 May 12, 13:44:43
Quote from: "Ensign EO"
Ew, I don't like the name Jamie.  Jamy.  Jaymi.  Jaymie.  Jaaaaaaaiiiiimiiiieii.  Any name that sounds like it should be a nickname, but really isn't, bothers me.

Someone I knew from Seaside was named Johnnie (female), and I always wondered what the hell it was short for.

It wasn't short for anything.  Drives me crazy.


My... grandmother-in-law? is there such a thing?  :lol: Is called Jonna. Never knew anyone called it before I met her, but it doesn't particularly bother me as a name. It's the only female name I can think of that could turn into a female version of Johnny. ;)

I get bothered by names too - especially those I think are half names (e.g. as you said, Jamie). I spend WAY too much time on babynames.com for comfort.