Carla Niven vs. Rat Productions

[beawaywithit]

I wonder which one of Carlew's models won his competition? because he SURELY cant let *anyone* else be on his site... they might make it pretty!!

[Soup Parrot]

The latest creation, they changed Enter pic too.
http://www.carlaniven.netfirms.com/page%202.htm

I think trying to imrove style of dress, not crazy about the pattern. BUT worst its the java flashing thing below it, hurts my eyes!

[OneEyedWillie]

yeah carla niven is trying to improve, but damn shit's site!  it makes my pc freeze everytime.....

[Electricstatic]

Shit's site makes me cry. It seems like a poor man's SeraSims. But at least Sera has some free things (and navigation that doesn't quite make me want to claw my eyes out).

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Folks, you sound fucking stupid when you truncate s/h/it to shit. You're completely losing the subtlety and meaning of doing it the right way in favour of using an obvious and unimaginative curse word.

[Tchannie]

Liegen: Digital Perversion is AWESOME. I LOVE that site!! I use most of it. :wink:

Soup: It's water reflection. Allegedly. What I want to know is why the model is next to water in the first place.

That is the foulest top in the world. But it WOULD look better with a camisole. It might even look alright with one beneath it.

I still maintain it's one bloke. Think about it; how on earth do you persuade MORE blokes to join a SIMS site? Where you make REALLY CRAP STUFF. I don't think any self-respecting bloke would take Carla up on his offer.

If it's a girl, as alleged by shit's Ginster account on S2C, I'm wondering whether she's gay, or this is how she wants to look. Like a slag with a bad nose job.

Back to the bloke; if it's a bloke, why aren't the models pretty? You'd think they would be.

Aww, poor 300. You really deserved to win. It's irritating how the contest was finished, but it did say by the 18th...we'll be able to see by the 25th who won, though! Then we'll be able to take the piss some more. :wink: Which one's the ugliest coz that one'll win, methinks.

[Steerpike]

Soup: It's water reflection. Allegedly. What I want to know is why the model is next to water in the first place.

She's contemplating whether or not to drown herself in shame.

[Tchannie]

Soup: It's water reflection. Allegedly. What I want to know is why the model is next to water in the first place.

She's contemplating whether or not to drown herself in shame.

Aha. Of course it is. I was wondering, but thanks for clearing that up for me!! Can we give her a hand, please? :wink:

[BlackPearl]

i dont know.  some of the stuff on her site is nice.  i wouldnt pay for it, but id use it for free.  lol

what makes me laugh is the meshes people make.  they expect one to pay for it but not to share it once its purchased.  bitch, please!  if its mine, i will share it if i want.

the second thing that gets me is the mesh created by someone else used to make money for the one who bought it or stole it.  damn, people got alot of nerve.  lol

[Tchannie]

i dont know. some of the stuff on her site is nice. i wouldnt pay for it, but id use it for free. lol

You poor, poor, misguided fool.

what makes me laugh is the meshes people make. they expect one to pay for it but not to share it once its purchased. bitch, please! if its mine, i will share it if i want.

But, but! I made it!! It's mine! I'll make up whatever TOS I want cuz it's MINE!! You can't do anything with it! It took my TIME DAMMIT! And, and! I made it! You BOUGHT it! Therefore, it's, um, like you wouldn't buy a lamp and repaint it and sell it on!! It's MINE I TELL YOU!!

Actually, that's a good analogy. *thinks* Even though I hate paysites. That may actually be their attitude to it.
Of course, that's also a good analogy as to why Paysites Must Be Destroyed; EA theft ad nauseum.

the second thing that gets me is the mesh created by someone else used to make money for the one who bought it or stole it. damn, people got alot of nerve. lol

Precisely one of the reasons we hate Carla and TSR so much. You shouldn't be able to make monies out of somebody else's free mesh, nor should you be able to charge for your recolours of somebody else's pay mesh. It means that people have to donate to the other site in order to get the mesh. It's linking, really. Shouldn't be acceptable.
And even if you don't charge for this, it comes back to your other point; why shouldn't you be able to share the pay mesh you bought? After all, you bought it, and nobody's going to download the outfits you made because they'd have to pay to the site you got the mesh from.

[zatanna]

Rat productions is definantly better!

[jesserocket]

hey, how about this model I found lurking in the back of my bodyshop? it's maxis-created, it MUST be purty enough for Carla...

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FUCK. WHAT THE SHIT?!?!

That is all.

Except, aww, I missed the deadline. I had a lully sim to enter, too.

[LesserOr]

Therefore, it's, um, like you wouldn't buy a lamp and repaint it and sell it on!! It's MINE I TELL YOU!!
Actually, that's a good analogy. *thinks* Even though I hate paysites. That may actually be their attitude to it.

While that is what they think (other than "I worked so hard you should pay me!), the rights and permissions are very different between physical objects and program files.

But if you want a physical objects analogy, say Jane pastes over the labels on a case of Pepsi and tries to sell it as "Jane's Cola Soda".
Why should Pepsi have a problem with this? After all, stores sell cases of Pepsi all the time! She paid for the soft drinks, didn't she? Jane worked very hard on the label! She might even have redesigned the bottle!

Problem is, those stores have an agreement with Pepsi to sell their product (part of why restaurants usually have Coke or Pepsi, not both.)
Jane didn't do the research that led to the formula for Pepsi. Even though she paid for the case of Pepsi, she didn't pay for the right to sell it as her own drink. If another company wanted to sell Pepsi under their own brand, they'd have to pay for the privilege.
Jane didn't bother.

People think of individuals differently than they think of companies. If a company tried to sell sims files without permission, few people would argue that company had The Right because they worked so hard.

[Tchannie]

People think of individuals differently than they think of companies. If a company tried to sell sims files without permission, few people would argue that company had The Right because they worked so hard.

Now THAT'S a point.

[torque]

About the contest ending. Don't worry guys, you could all still send him the pics of your lovely models just to show him how much you love Carla Niven.