TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!

[Pescado]

I find it entirely plausible that a technician actively avoids the politics angle on the site. I sure as hell do, although I take a more preemptive strike approach to these matters.

[Paleoanth]

Yes, but that is because you are ascribing your own outlook and behavior onto someone else.  Just because you are like that does not mean all technicians are.  I remain suspicious. 

[Pescado]

Yes, but that is because you are ascribing your own outlook and behavior onto someone else.  Just because you are like that does not mean all technicians are.  I remain suspicious.

It's possible. On the other hand, it doesn't change anything.

[Paleoanth]

Well that is true. 

[minionsRmine]

Since this is TSR staff we're talking about, it's "guilty until proven innocent" for me. I don't trust any of those folks, wouldn't give them the benefit of the doubt if they had "Innocent" written on their forehead. As far as I'm concerned, Zebras don't change their stripes. Call me hard-headed, call me unforgiving. I don't care.

[Pescado]

Whereas me, I don't do forgiveness, but I think everyone deserves a fair chance to shoot themselves in the foot.

[SnarkyShark]

I don't trust any of those folks, wouldn't give them the benefit of the doubt if they had "Innocent" written on their forehead.

minions, like me, you're obviously a victim of the Pescadian Myth Making Machine. However, as johan's soothing drone lulls my suspicions away, it's begun to dawn on me that TSR really is an innocent fansite whose main goal is to build a BETTER sims community for everyone!

Real True Facts I Haz Learned

- they readily confess to sharing personal information if they absolutely have to
- they don't believe in witch hunts as long as their files aren't being shared
- they research privacy laws years after it might have made a difference
- put atwa in an overcoat and funny glasses and she can fool anyone
- they are ultra super-methodical and can prove it with linkage
- they don't like the taste of coconut
- and butter doesn't melt in their mouths

[Paden]

johan, I spoke with someone totally uninvolved that took the damn proggie apart, so your denials of the keylogger falls on deaf ears and disbelieving ones at that. I do happen to know coder monkeys outside of this community that have no interest in the game but are VERY interested in taking things apart down to their source code, and they are much better at what they do than you could ever claim to be, so suck it.

[karu]

Real True Facts I Haz Learned

- they readily confess to sharing personal information if they absolutely have to
- they don't believe in witch hunts as long as their files aren't being shared
- they research privacy laws years after it might have made a difference
- put atwa in an overcoat and funny glasses and she can fool anyone
- they are ultra super-methodical and can prove it with linkage
- they don't like the taste of coconut
- and butter doesn't melt in their mouths

link for Moune       http://bayimg.com/image/maihmaacg.jpg

[Moune]

Karu, I don't know why, but I can't see any of your pictures. And this is one I really want to see!

[karu]

Karu, I don't know why, but I can't see any of your pictures. And this is one I really want to see!

edited post above to add link.......don't know why it doesn't show up for you   

[kenmtl]

D'oh! We're not supposed to see her. It are Twatinja.

[Missbonbon]

I find it entirely plausible that a technician actively avoids the politics angle on the site. I sure as hell do, although I take a more preemptive strike approach to these matters.

I find it hard to believe. Just in that post alone, not only did he contribute sharing information, but when Atwat was making her "screenshots," he cheered it on. That alone shows me he has at least one foot in the bucket in this whole mess. Also considering when buggybooz account was hacked, Johan was the first on the scene here, and so far has been more fourth coming with information about it than anyone else from TSR.

Again, I doubt he is as involved as Thomas is. I really do believe that he maybe only experiences 20-30% of the drama, is told 20-30% of the drama by someone else, and reads the rest from coconut. Just by his replies he does not come across as knowing first hand information as to the situations that had occurred behind closed doors, but coconut has screenshot proof he has/had/more than likely still does, participate in the action.

I don’t think Thomas sent Johan here. He doesn’t come across as that much of a puppet. Besides, Inge said on the previous page that she had encouraged Johan to come here because he was complaining that the statements made here and on MATY were untrue. Johan came here of his own volition to try to sort things out.

I had forgotten that while typing my reply. I guess it is plausible that Thomas did not send Johan if Inge is willing to vouch for him. This makes me question then, as to WHY, now out of all these years, he is becoming so bothered with what is said here and at MATY. If Pes truly believes that Johan is not involved with any drama, then why would any statements made on either of those sites bother him? Why would he even be reading them if he stayed out of things?

Zillah-- I don't know about anyone else here, but I am on the fence about TSR participating here. Mainly because it would just seem weird to me to have one of the head people in charge of a website we are trying to destroy, becoming one of our own. I do think maybe on outside forums, such as MATY, GOS, or even Prism, could be better grounds for calling his participation too.

[KatCat]

Mayhap when Johan first came here it was as suggested by Inge.  But he has been here since then at the time of a TSR incident.  Who's to say that he's not been sent by Thomass on occasion as "crowd control"?

For example - we have stopped talking of the leaked list, possible actions to take, etc. and instead are speculating on his motives.

[Moune]

Karu, thanks for the effort. Unfortunately I still can’t see your picture. Don’t worry about it, though. It’s probably something silly on my computer that I’m too dumb to know how to turn off.

Missbonbon, I think Johan was probably provoked by the statements exactly because he was not involved in the scheming and therefore thought they were untrue and maybe this time around he had time to enter properly into discussions. I also think that we pretty much agree here and that calls for celebration. Here, RUM for everybody!

(And then let’s get back to talking about the leaked list. KatCat’s right. That’s much more interesting than Johan’s motives for coming here).