TSR: In Ur Accounts, Deletin Ur Stuffs!

[Witchboy]

I am aware of that. But what proof does he have for those statements? Take a look at his quote from Sims Cave that you posted. Indications and speculations aren't proof.

I'm not sure what proof if any Pes has, but if he says they are responsible for the hacking (which i already believed anyway) i believe him wholeheartedly.

Quote from Igne at MATY
Thomas made it quite clear to me in a private MSN chat that TSR had authorised the passing of personal user details to TSR creators, and that he felt it was completely justified.  That is how they got to Dot, ATWA etc. I don't know whether he told them to publish them onwards, or if they made that decision for themselves.

http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,17397.25.html

[lorikay]

Why would he tell that to Inge?

This is starting to sound like bad publicity is better than no publicity. 

[Witchboy]

Why would he tell that to Inge?

This is starting to sound like bad publicity is better than no publicity.  

I'm not sure what his motive was for telling Igne that. If Igne would explain it in more detail we might know the why & his reasoning for telling her so.

[SnarkyShark]

So am I right to assume that Inge's statement pretty much backs up coconut's?

[Witchboy]

So am I right to assume that Inge's statement pretty much backs up coconut's?

Sure sounds like it to me. I would say it does completely.

[kenmtl]

Ok wait whoa, why would he say that to Inge?  Are they talking about this situation or the previous times that we already know about? This makes no sense to me.

[justso]

I have been following this for a couple of days now. Just for the record, as you are all already aware of where the list comes from, I am on the list and only on Bluesoup's petition do the email and name used appear together. If I was Thomas I wouldn't have passed that around, as what he has isn't a list of pirates, it's a list of people who totally dislike him and everything he stands for. I know that's why my name is there.  He must be so proud to have a list that long.  Is it coincidence that everyone he has used to pass information on is female? or is that just what Thomas is, a coward who hides behind women.

[Moune]

Ok wait whoa, why would he say that to Inge?  Are they talking about this situation or the previous times that we already know about? This makes no sense to me.

I'm puzzled by this too and would also like to know when that chat happened.  

Would somebody ask Inge to clarify. And also to tell us how Thomas supposedly justified this to her.

ETA:
Am I the only one who thinks this should be split into a separate thread? This is the only place that has so much information about this matter, but if anybody comes here to find out whats going on, they won't have a clue where to look.

ETA again, because I missed Lorikay’s post the first time around:
I think the sacking of Atwa only shows that she was the one who began passing the list around, and because her identity as CarpeDiem was exposed they had to let her fall. No doubt the list came from the petition and no doubt it was in TSR’s possession. All I’m saying is that we don’t know how they got it. Personally I’m not prepared to accuse anyone of hacking – no matter how many times Pes says he thinks they did it.

[Pescado]

As for Bluesoup, I certainly don’t have any fondness for her at all, but I’ve got to say that if I were her I would stay far away from this discussion, too. To an extend she has already been branded as involved in this, although there is no actual proof of it, and I think a number of people would simply not listen to what she had to say about the matter. Yes, it was her petition, and yes, it is strange that her name is missing from the list.

Her name ISN'T missing from the list. It's on the list, just not as "BlueSoup". I know what it is, though, and it's there. As far as the Soup's involvement in the matter, I don't really believe there is any, other than that BlueSoup has a fat head.

[Grimma]

New Cocunut post is up, examining (il)legalities of TSR's much-touted "privacy" policy. In the light of this, the following, which is taken from Steve-oh's "False Accusations" reply, is especially lulzy:

If you have any concerns we would urge you to read our Privacy Policy which we believe demonstrates that we take our members' privacy very seriously.

[Moune]

As for Bluesoup, I certainly don’t have any fondness for her at all, but I’ve got to say that if I were her I would stay far away from this discussion, too. To an extend she has already been branded as involved in this, although there is no actual proof of it, and I think a number of people would simply not listen to what she had to say about the matter. Yes, it was her petition, and yes, it is strange that her name is missing from the list.

Her name ISN'T missing from the list. It's on the list, just not as "BlueSoup". I know what it is, though, and it's there. As far as the Soup's involvement in the matter, I don't really believe there is any, other than that BlueSoup has a fat head.

Okay, that is one matter cleared up. I wonder who the missing petitioner on slot 1 was, then.

[Witchboy]

Would somebody ask Inge to clarify. And also to tell us how Thomas supposedly justified this to her.

Someone already has over at MATY & no reply as of yet. I doubt Igne will add anything new to her statement on what Thomas told her.

Okay, that is one matter cleared up. I wonder who the missing petitioner on slot 1 was, then.

Maybe the one who hacked the petition in the 1st place?

*dons tin foil hat*

[Pescado]

I think the sacking of Atwa only shows that she was the one who began passing the list around, and because her identity as CarpeDiem was exposed they had to let her fall. No doubt the list came from the petition and no doubt it was in TSR’s possession. All I’m saying is that we don’t know how they got it. Personally I’m not prepared to accuse anyone of hacking – no matter how many times Pes says he thinks they did it.

If you don't think TSR was responsible, explain how, exactly, they managed to acquire something that could only have been obtained from a specific hacking? Yes, there are random hackings. Plenty of sites have been randomly hacked by the random riffraff that populates the Internet. When this happens, no one relevant ends up with anything useful. In the past, I have specifically ruled out incidents of hacking as NOT being related to TSR, so I am clearly not out to pin every single hacking on TSR. THIS, however, is CLEARLY a TSR hacking. There is simply no other logical explanation: If an independent hacker did it, then why does TSR have this information? Therefore, it was a TSR hacker.

[Witchboy]

Therefore, it was a TSR hacker.

*cough~ATWAT~cough*

[sleegee]

I just went over to TSR to read that "announcement" that Coconut mentioned and as soon as I logged in, their site tried to download a trojan to my computer.

Rotten fucking T$R.  Just implode already, will ya!