Insim under new management!

[Tchannie]

Half the files from there have already been backed up by fans and creators themselves, have they not? If some people crawl out of the woodwork with the other half, then personally I think you should kill it.

[Paden]

Pes, that's technically illegal, isn't it? Not to mention, people are still needing to get copies of their files that got zorched in crashes and stuff... I just don't know. I don't know how to respond.

[SoggyFox]

If the only chance to save it is to burn it, then I say go for it.  Its a bit like saying, 'Well, if we do the operation, there is a chance you won't survive, but if we don't, you'll die.'

[edejan]

Okay, it has become clear that we're at a point where we may need to burn the village in order to save the village. Since there is no practical way to stop the 12s from swarming and killing the server, the obvious solution at this point is to intentionally spike the DB, rendering the site inoperable. Naturally, this will most likely permanently damage WaltZone and remove the option for people to stay there. There is no guarantee this will result in the successful retrieval of the files even if it is undertaken. What say you?

As long as you can't be criminally charged, I say burn, baby, burn....

[redisenchanted]

Okay, it has become clear that we're at a point where we may need to burn the village in order to save the village. Since there is no practical way to stop the 12s from swarming and killing the server, the obvious solution at this point is to intentionally spike the DB, rendering the site inoperable. Naturally, this will most likely permanently damage WaltZone and remove the option for people to stay there. There is no guarantee this will result in the successful retrieval of the files even if it is undertaken. What say you?

I don't think I can support this. I may be misunderstanding you, but it sounds like deliberate sabotage. It doesn't seem right to take all choice away from those who might inexplicably want to stay.

I think if the site becomes accessible again, people will quickly overload it downloading everything they can anyway. More creators will delete their things. WaltZone will never recover anyway. Better to let people scatter and rebuild where they wish. Anything of importance is on somebody's hard drive already.

[montoto_sk]

Sorry, I just get here.  The InSim cloning was failed? Now we must choose to burn it or leave our stuff there in the Waltmenator?

[thedom]

The only person I'm truly concerned about from Insim is Squinge, he is the only reason I go there, I just hope he backed up his stuff...

[heartless]

True, and if anyone is searching for their stuff they didn't back up, people will be able to find them in their games and retrieve them. Hopefully.

[missangelica]

We should just be happy she didn't go for the new thread button - it *is* the weekend.

Aint that the truth, she'd have lost a hand. I know how territorial pirates are over the 'new thread' button.

This made me laugh a lot.  Thank you.   

[kenmtl]

Is it possible that between what you have already and what the gang has collected, it would enough to clone without the sabotage?

Were not doing this for the lulz and we're not criminals. It's a fine line.

[Killzone]

The only person I'm truly concerned about from Insim is Squinge, he is the only reason I go there, I just hope he backed up his stuff...

I read on another site (Sim Oasis I think), that someone had contacted Squinge by phone, that he has everything backed up, and has yet to decide what to do

[Paden]

Squinge has his stuff backed up from 2005, as far as I know.

[NoOrdinaryRabbit]

Is part of the reason InSim keeps going down because bandwidth is running low?

Will the site crash as much once December starts in a few hours, and the bandwidth meter presumably resets?

I'd prefer holding off doing anything permanently damaging as long as possible, until the creators have had a chance to retrieve what they want.

Spiking the DB sounds a bit extreme, but if the mods think it's the only option left, I would support their decision.

[thedom]

The only person I'm truly concerned about from Insim is Squinge, he is the only reason I go there, I just hope he backed up his stuff...

I read on another site (Sim Oasis I think), that someone had contacted Squinge by phone, that he has everything backed up, and has yet to decide what to do

That's a relief, but I do feel bad for the other creators who will lose their stuff.

[scrappysim]

Maybe this should wait until after Monday to see what happens when and if Walt (and everyone else who might have been away with family for the US holiday weekend)  get back.  Remember, the timing of this was terrible but we dont really know what is going to happen in the light of the regular "workweek" yet.  I know that everyone is in a hurry for something to be done but at least waiting for that doesnt seem unreasonable.