TSR Sharing your infomation!

[justso]

It is the same.  The fact we all know what was discussed in that private forum proves just how "private" it is. 

[calalily]

Well why don't ya ask Pescado for the IP and do a whois search?   (no Palemato, it don't work that way)
Sharkbait is open to everyone who registers, not the same thing as a private forum.

So, potentially is the FA forum - they vet FAs for creation abilities, not (quite obviously) moral character.  So the FA forum doesn't really vet who gets to see the information, nor their motivations for seeing it - otherwise coconut's screenshots wouldn't exist, now would they? Hardly more secure than Sharkbait.

And from your IP it would be relatively easy to find your address for absolutely free, and from there a reverse directory search for a couple of dollars.  Totally available - and I'm sure you'd love it.  Why not just publish your own IP - it's right there next to "report to moderator" - just cut and paste if you don't have a problem with information available from various sites passed around.  

[Devilfish]

So, potentially is the FA forum - they vet FAs for creation abilities, not (quite obviously) moral character.

Remember this little gem?

“I thought we agreed that a FA selection is not just about talent any more.”

Details details, I know, but the recruit the loyal, not the talented, apparently. Another thing to concider when personal information is being tossed out there.

[Paleoanth]

Well why don't ya ask Pescado for the IP and do a whois search?  (no Palemato, it don't work that way)
Sharkbait is open to everyone who registers, not the same thing as a private forum.

No, you are right, it doesn't work exactly that way.  I was simplyfying-oversimplyfying perhaps.  And I have no doubt that Pescado could find out if he really wanted to.  But the point is that we don't do things like that. 

Why do I have PM's from Anita that give personal information about TSR users?  She is still there and I am sure she still does things like that.  Why are TSR FA's posting this stuff in the first place?  Not just to ban an IP addy.  Not just to ban a user-all you would need to discuss is the user name.  There is NO GOOD reason to post people's names, addresses and phone numbers.  Why do you need that information unless you mean to harass that person?

[macaque]

No, you are right, it doesn't work exactly that way.  I was simplyfying-oversimplyfying perhaps.  And I have no doubt that Pescado could find out if he really wanted to.  But the point is that we don't do things like that. 

Why do I have PM's from Anita that give personal information about TSR users?  She is still there and I am sure she still does things like that.  Why are TSR FA's posting this stuff in the first place?  Not just to ban an IP addy.  Not just to ban a user-all you would need to discuss is the user name.  There is NO GOOD reason to post people's names, addresses and phone numbers.  Why do you need that information unless you mean to harass that person?

No you were just being wrong. In the real world, outside of this sandbox, there's a difference

[Devilfish]

Okay, that's enough of that. You've made your point and completely ignored ours, it's time to leave now. You're not coming across as an intelligent individual at all and it's definitely not cute. Did you concider people feel the need to oversimplify thing because you are being purposefully obtuse? (Your username still makes me uncomforatble, by the way). Since you are obviously the adult here, why don't you leave the sandbox to the kids and let us have fun, okay?

[SoggyFox]

Sorry - but in the -real world- there is no justification for doing that either.  Do you know why?  Because in the real world, there is something called identity -theft-  Not to mention credit card fraud, stalking, kidnapping, etc.

And if you'd ever had someone use -your- credit card, or -your- identity, you wouldn't say something so fucking stupid.

Yup, its sunday.

[Bliss]

No you were just being wrong. In the real world, outside of this sandbox, there's a difference

As SoggyFox pointed out, in the real world, there is identity theft.

Also in the real world, I get to choose who has access to my home address, my phone number, my full name.  The people I work with may know my full name, but they don't know my phone number or where I live.  They certainly don't get the chance to advertise it no people who would use it to harass me.  The ones who DO have access to that information can not give that info out due to privacy concerns. 

It should work the exact same way with the information I give to sign up for forums. 

[Pescado]

I mostly see this as preying on people's naive insistence on providing information that isn't need-to-know, and then not invalidating it after it is no longer need-to-know.

[Paleoanth]

No, you are right, it doesn't work exactly that way.  I was simplyfying-oversimplyfying perhaps.  And I have no doubt that Pescado could find out if he really wanted to.  But the point is that we don't do things like that. 

Why do I have PM's from Anita that give personal information about TSR users?  She is still there and I am sure she still does things like that.  Why are TSR FA's posting this stuff in the first place?  Not just to ban an IP addy.  Not just to ban a user-all you would need to discuss is the user name.  There is NO GOOD reason to post people's names, addresses and phone numbers.  Why do you need that information unless you mean to harass that person?

No you were just being wrong. In the real world, outside of this sandbox, there's a difference

Putting a stupid winky thing at the end of your post doesn't negate your nasty attitude, you know. 

And you did not address the real points of any of our posts.  All you did was catch me on a technicality of oversimplification.  What difference in the real world? TSR is not the fucking real world.  It is far more insular than this place. What do you need that information for?   What the heck are you even talking about?

I mostly see this as preying on people's naive insistence on providing information that isn't need-to-know, and then not invalidating it after it is no longer need-to-know.

Yup. Preying is exactly what they do. 

[neriana]

No, you are right, it doesn't work exactly that way.  I was simplyfying-oversimplyfying perhaps.  And I have no doubt that Pescado could find out if he really wanted to.  But the point is that we don't do things like that. 

Why do I have PM's from Anita that give personal information about TSR users?  She is still there and I am sure she still does things like that.  Why are TSR FA's posting this stuff in the first place?  Not just to ban an IP addy.  Not just to ban a user-all you would need to discuss is the user name.  There is NO GOOD reason to post people's names, addresses and phone numbers.  Why do you need that information unless you mean to harass that person?

No you were just being wrong. In the real world, outside of this sandbox, there's a difference

"In the real world"? Is this that stupid britneyhobag person again?

We know how the "real world" works, because unlike paysite people who discuss threatening phone calls to punish someone they don't like, we live in it. Further, your attitude in the "real world" would make sure you were completely ignored. If you were lucky.

[Missbonbon]

macaque, You sir, are an idiot. And let's go over why you are an idiot shall we? 

Still i think you're making a hen out of a feather here, any 12 year old with a grudge who can't do a whois and find the information on their own sounds pretty harmless to me.
And this information wasn't even posted in a public forum so what's the big deal?

http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/05/04/12-year-olde-girl-and-23-year-old-boyfriend-charged-w-murdering-her-family-in-medicine-hat/

http://www.trap17.com/index.php/12-year-old-murderer-sentenced-30-years_t7745.html

Plus there are more stories. If 12 year olds are capable of murder then what makes you think that full grown adults won't put that information to bad use? It doesn't matter if it's easily available, it's the fact that TSR FA's were speaking of harassing Jassims. We don't like Jassims, but we don't like internet harassers either.

Speeking if lacking a clue, do you have any idea of what you're talking about? There is no "PayPal bit", the information was taken from their member database and had nothing to do with PayPal.

As with everything else having to do with paysites this has blown out of all proportions.
Not so strange considering what this site is all about but still... 

http://tsrcoconut.wordpress.com/tsr-shares-your-paypal-details/

If  you actually read the thread you would realize that Thomass had access to real names. Why would someone give their real name if they are planning on file sharing? Whereas with pay pal, you HAVE to put your real name, location, etc. etc. Even if those names were pulled from the database, obviously none of us can access the database, meaning they shouldn't have been posted at all.

That mail wasn't from TSR was it? How did we come from there to "TSR is sharing your PayPal information" ?

If you actually had read the fucking thread, you would know wouldn't you? Because it's only a couple of pages back and why it was changed. But in case you missed justso telling you, and by the oblivious title of the thread, TSR is sharing information. Period. This thread is here to inform all those who did not know previously who lurk/visit PMBD. The thread is title appropriately so, and if you have issues with it, stuff it, kay?

Well why don't ya ask Pescado for the IP and do a whois search?  (no Palemato, it don't work that way)
Sharkbait is open to everyone who registers, not the same thing as a private forum.

Awfully funny how Cala calls you out to, to post your own IP, and Kierra calls you to put who you really are, yet you ignore them? TSR spy is not very bright at all. But wait, I bet your trying to make the big bad pirates look as bad as TSR huh? Not going to work sweetie.

No you were just being wrong. In the real world, outside of this sandbox, there's a difference

If tomato was being wrong, and admitted it, then what are you? A pompous arrogant asshole? Sounds about right.

[Yaardarm Monkey II]

On behalf of good monkeys everywhere, this clown macaque does NOT speak for monkeydom nor simianhood at all!   

Sadly, some monkeys refuse to be productive and useful monkeys, and wind up just shrieking, howling, and flinging their feces.

[macaque]

The original threat ie email, was made by habitat 43.  Which at that point wasn't a TSR threat.  Birgit then turned up in the TSR secret forum giving the information to Thomas, it made it onto the TSR wall of shame list, which then made it a TSR problem.


ETA The fact is that you don't have to be a member of TSR to have your information shared by TSR.

So does this translate to "TSR is sharing your PayPal infomration" to you?
I'm sorry but to me this is a classic hen out of a feather.

[macaque]

So, potentially is the FA forum - they vet FAs for creation abilities, not (quite obviously) moral character.  So the FA forum doesn't really vet who gets to see the information, nor their motivations for seeing it - otherwise coconut's screenshots wouldn't exist, now would they? Hardly more secure than Sharkbait.

And from your IP it would be relatively easy to find your address for absolutely free, and from there a reverse directory search for a couple of dollars.  Totally available - and I'm sure you'd love it.  Why not just publish your own IP - it's right there next to "report to moderator" - just cut and paste if you don't have a problem with information available from various sites passed around.  

The difference is that when you post in a private forum the intention is not to make the information available to the public.
Sharkbait is accessible to everyone who registers here. You honestly don't see the difference?